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So apparently K(uritan)-pop idols visiting or accompanying /mydudes/ is actually canon then>not!Sherryl here I come
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Arty choice: Arrow IV or Long Tom?
>>97722336it actually doesnt seem like the clan shadowhawk has anything the IS cant already make, so my idea is about as uninteresting as the shadowhawk already isits basically just using the shadowhawk C as-is
>>97722345Depends on era and role
Question for the thread: what do you do with your excess or unwanted 'mechs?My system is I bring a bag of several of them, particularly ones I might be fielding just unpainted, to pick-up games at my LGS; if I lose, the winner picks a 'mech from the bag to take as spoils/salvage.
>>97722378Have a noob interested in BT run a tutorial mission covering the basics with a mech, and 'award' him that mech at the end.
How many times have the Clans invaded a world that they weren't prepared to take?
>>97722378I've used some as filler for OC schemes as mercs or pirates, others as filler for factions that either already have that mech or could salvage it easily. As a category, clan mechs are actually piling up the most because I just don't use clantech in my IS forces despite almost never playing before the invasion era and also don't have a clan force.
>>97722445Three times? Twycross, Wolcott, and Tukayyid
>>97722446>and also don't have a clan forceI solved that by planning on filling a Keshik's worth of force org over time, I still have a ways to go before it's done. Once it's ready, I can commit the unit to long campaigns.
>>97722331>Bottom leftBane?
>>97722378>My system is I bring a bag of several of them, particularly ones I might be fielding just unpainted, to pick-up games at my LGS; if I lose, the winner picks a 'mech from the bag to take as spoils/salvage.Very based, my first mech was NovaCat prime I won after our intro game.
I don't normally go for the AI slop but some of these touch ups have been pretty decent. Battletech also needs way more hairspray.
>>97722451Add Luthien in there
Introductory boxed set Vindicator, with stealth armor off and on respectively. going to just do the basing on the transparent one, for added effect.recasting is a fun hobby, do recommend
>>97722801AI hasn't done anything to that image.
>>97722858It made it good. The original boomer art was just shit. I don't know where they got their artists back in the dark ages, but 80s and 90s art is just pure shit. I can't wait for us to move past it completely.
>>97722889>slandering based Boris VallejoI hope you get intestinal worms, chimp
>>97722922holy blake ~7m superheavy elemental
>>97722922>>97722801Boomer artists can't even into scale. People shouldn't come up to a Mechs knee. Just cope already. Old art is shit.
>>97722922I like most of his stuff, but the way he draws mechs is a bit silly. It's like his head is still stuck in the 50s when it comes to what robots should look like. It isn't necessarily a bad thing on its own, but it kinda clashes with the grittier 70s sci-fi film/80s anime aesthetics BattleTech has been built on since the beginning.
>>97722941You can't blame Vallejo for that one, it seems like he's just following the wonky scale from the first illustration.
>>97722941Old art is art, your zoomer slop can't even scratch the glory
>>97722954See? Boomer artists are so shit they can't even figure out what other boomers were trying to show. Just stop showing anything made by anyone before 2017, and by anyone over 35. Battletech isn't for them anymore, and the sooner their legacy dies off the better.
>>97722941Battletech scale is notoriously all over the place when it comes to artwork.
>>97722946Fun fact: that picture is by Steve Venters, later of Magic: The Gathering fame. He had such a struggle with the faces he borrowed some of Vallejo's and grafted them on. He used his own for this one.
>>97722966>>97722958>>97722954>>97722941Giant Black Knight happened very recently, I understand.
>>97722922
Not just BT; pre-2000ish DnD, Warhammer, WoD, etc were all awful. Why was that? Not enough budget to hire someone who can actually draw good?
>>97722978
>>97722986
FASA art had all the soul
>>97723010whats the best stand-in for a shadow hawk 2c 11?just use a regular shadowhawk, glue a shadow hawk cannon on a 2c, or try and make one out of green stuff?
>>97722889>80s and 90s art is just pure shit.It was a magical time in its own way
>>97723077Nah, you boomers were just too retarded and fucked up on lead exposure to know any better. Nothing good was made before 2010 at the earliest. You're just trying to cope while you wait to die. Please hurry and do so.
>>97723155Yes, because your dumpster fire of a generation is a font of true sublimity.
>>97722967I generally prefer the smaller scaled ones like this, but that's probably just because Patlabor was my favorite anime when I was a kid.
>>97723180>still crying this hard because someone was mean to you online eight years agoJust move on, Meyer
>>97723180Anybody else think she(?) was talking about Hermann Goering for a minute there?
>>97723189If I see you at GenCon, I'm going to pop your head like a tick, "Michelle".
>>97723219In reality you are the guy who turns up to the flgs of someone you hate, refuses to interact with anyone apart from a mopey "hello", sits in the corner for hours, then complains about "being excluded" when you didn't involve yourself at all
>>97723232All this projection must be a strain on your fragile, sensitive ego. Would you like a Safe Space pass and a good cry?
>>97722446I also have this autistic attitude to mixing tech even when it would be common to the era, don’t know why but I’m trying to work through it.
>>97722825And Santander>>97723186There's a few official depictions at that scale as well. I do prefer them myself when they are smaller.
>>97723219I'll happily accept your batchall any time.
>>97723242Only if you get to hold me, pat my head, and call me a good boy. Otherwise I'll pass
>>97723244I can relate, I find post-3050 tech distasteful but my mercs are an IlClan-era unit so I have to just deal with it.
>>97723254Batchall is only for the worthy, your tranny ass gets to eat a bullet without warning.
>>97723269ow the edge
>>97722889>80s and 90s art is just pure shitZoomzoom opinion detected and rejected. You might hate it all you want but you have nothing on your own, there is no 2010-2020 style outside of corpo calart slop.
>>97723269Dick girls are dezgra?
I found this cute fella, looks cool but I struggle to see benefit of having to stand still on a tmm3 mech with 18" movement.
>>97723342
>>97723287Kunio Okawara is still the GOAT.
>>97723354
>>97723260I'll allow upto and including the Jihad, as that always seems like a logical place for the setting to end: Star League fails, WoB throws a hissie fit, nukes fall, all the cast dies, new cast overthrows these saturday morning cartoon villains who have appeared sort of out of nowhere with their ridiculous mad science wunderwaffen and you call it a day.>What about us greasy Clanners?I dunno, you can have your own half-assed clan version where we're somehow meant to root for you instead of those scientists who are responsible for your entire society that you've been treating like 3rd rate chattel for three centuries I guess.
>>97723342Alpha Strike cards aren't carefully designed and curated my dude. The conversion tables must be obeyed.
>>97723427god that's good
>>97723474Still surprises me that Dougram doesn't get into SRW more. It really should, it'd slot in quite neatly with a lot of other shows like Gurren Laggan or Votoms.
>>97723342Do you know what MAS is?
>>97723544Manufacture d'armes St.Etienne?
>>97722835How make it clear?
>>97723682Invisible paint, duh
>>97723682>>97723828You clear coat it, naturally.
>>97722326If they have a minmay, drop her ass as fast as ya can.
I found this picture in the Russian isekai cover compilation and thought it was funny
>>97723449Yeah, ok. This dosnt explain it.>>97723544Yes. Stand still and you get +3 target mod against shooting.Which is exactly what you get on this mech if you move 1" but you have chance of flanking with 18" movement.
>>97724034And what are the benefits of standing still?
>>97724186Anon spelled it out, jackass.READ, FAGGOT, READ.
>>97724243The benefits of standing still are separate from mimetic armor
>>97723487You ever hear about what happened with SRW64? One of the OG mechs looked a lot like Dougram, then Banpresto had some kind of copyright conflict with one of the other developers and couldn't use 64 content for anything else, so they made SRW Advanced, which was basically a remake of 64 with "reseen" versions of everything.
>>97723444>I dunno, you can have your own half-assed clan version where we're somehow meant to root for you instead of those scientists who are responsible for your entire society that you've been treating like 3rd rate chattel for three centuries I guess.Nobody listened when I suggested turning the Warriors into Kemonomimi...
>>97724253I just spelled it out for you but here have a pic.
>>97724371>Warriors into KemonomimiI'm a clanner and this is somehow Ok with me. Another step in gene enhancing would be to use their totem animal dna.
>>97724564And Hell's Horses moves one step closer to Umamusume... not that I'm complaining, of course.
>>97724550I'll word it differently for you; what bonus does *not* moving give you?
This is Lin Bao. She pilots my LCT-1V for the Capellan Federation.
>>97724732This version of Lin Bao has gangrene
>>97724747The hands? I know. They got dirty changing the coolant
>>97724732shes gonna burn up in all that.then in her mech after one inferno hits it.
>>97724795I dont know how to make the f***ing AI give her LESS clothes, lol
>>97724564kind of surprised that wasnt a thing honestly.old lore clans were (even more) nuts.
>>97724805They are, but they're also obsessed with gene purity. The scientists have basically been lying to the warriors the entire time, but the warriors insist that all of their gene lines are pure human, made only through eugenics enhanced by picking and choosing exact gene expressions through the generations. The scientists have been doing a lot more than that, or course, but they always have plausible deniability.The society and dark caste don't have that hangup though, and the so-called "gene caste" is a persistent conspiracy theory because they're impossible to disprove (being spliced up transhumans who use their uninhibited genetic enhancements to deliberately move into spaces the clanners aren't equipped to go, like the bottom of oceans, or on volcanic worlds that aren't worth trying to land on).
>>97724802Get on it mechwarrior we are counting on you.
Battletech would be better if there was a regiment made up of entirely goth chicks. That is all.
>>97724842Hidden aquatic former clanners would be actually be one of the better ways to keep hidden i guess.
>>97724875Someone's looking to join Clan Snow Raven...
>>97723180HBS were masters of bad decisions.
>>97723242Called him a what?
What is it that causes a person to jump into a setting with mechs being the most visible thing and try to brush aside the mechs like an embarrassing blight? Doubly so if anything related to mecha anime comes up when the franchise was heavily inspired by that specific genre.
>>97723961Good find.
>>97724348Nothing is ever simple with giant robots. Either the creator is a nutcase, the rights are disputed with a model magazine or it's fucking harmony gold.
>>97724875Clan Snow Raven, my dude.
>>97724564>>97724805I know, right?>>97724842>They are, but they're also obsessed with gene purity.They also look down on artificial enhancement, be that drugs, tech, or bio mods, until they don't...
>>97725121all three ranges of laser on one mech? odd but could work.Why arnt the larges on the high mounts?
>>97724982>>97725121Going to need evidence anons :^)
>>97725102>it's fucking harmony gold
>>97724732>SlopYour kind have a containment thread. Stick to it.>>97724564DO NOT interact with Manic, hes a pest. Last thing we want is another multi post rant about his AU, and then his obese sluggirl fetishes. Theres a reason the mods keep permabanning him, dont give him (you)'s.
>>97725176How is that company still around? Like they haven't released shit in over 12 years and that was a single thing. Last time they were consistently releasing stuff was 20 years ago. Even with them holding a partial license for Macross for their Robotech stuff, that isn't that big of a thing outside Japan. Especially with the Mecha drought.
>>97725204They're a real estate company backed by the Sicilian Mafia. And no, that's not speculation, one of their founders went to spaghetti prison for money laundering.
>>97725204Gangster shit
>>97724636Being behind enemy mek on close range machine.
Taurian Concordant fag here. Finished a demolisher heavy tank. Wat do?
>>97725794Do another one, then two of some other vehicle that compliments them.
>>97725816Yea, i posted my list in the last thread. I nearly finished the Shrek and the Atlas but need to go get some more GW paint
>>97725177Hey I'm not the only one questioning why the Clanners didn't give us Monster Waifus!
>>97725794Remove mold lines before you paint heathen.Cool tank.
>>97725915Now you overdone it mate.I was talking about cat eyes to see better in dark or ability to hibernate to save supplies, bigger muscles, something usefull for humanity. Not abomination in pic.
>>97725934Hey someone wanted Umamusume!It'd probably be kept to token animal traits, but someone is going to try centaurs at least.
>>97725169Sterling McKenna - BattleTechWiki https://share.google/JPtXFM43OTHwC6j2z
>>97725970>UmamusumeIs not centaur, but strong, long legs and plenty of stamina. Being able to run at 40kmph for couple of hours with weapon and gear.Something useful for humanity and military and not your zoophilia fetish.
>>97725970What I find really funny is that there was a recent development in the realm of Nekos, Umamusume, and the like. Canopus has long been confirmed to have cybernetics that allow it with rare bio-augmentation to create them.The Belters of the Sol System have been confirmed to have fully bioengineered subspecies in a recent book where Clan Wolf got attacked by catpeople from there. They likely have a wide variety of other species as well that have been hidden for a long time.So you can add hiding real catgirls from the Inner Sphere to the list of Comstar's crimes from them shutting down access to Sol.
>>97726012I know what an Uma is, the issue is why even be part horse at that point?It's going to be damned hard to get a stock humanoid up to 40 mph just by giving it hooves.And they kind of already did Centaurs anyways.
>>97726056Mixed up the situation in my head. Wasn't Clan Wolf being attacked by the catpeople, but the Catpeople defending against some Mercenary attackers. Book was Voidbreaker by Bryan Young, for any who want the source cited.
Sneede
>>97723180I had my friendly Dropship land on her.She died.
>>97726175>her
>>97726175>She
>>97726149Formerly Chucke.
>>97726098>Bryan YoungAll the reason in the world to dismiss it all as bullshit, that disingenuous fetishmonger is a cancer on the lore
>>97726246>Clan Jade Falcon Star (Quarter 2 2025 release)GyrfalconEyrieJupiterShrikeCougar (Repose/New Variant)
>>97726268More hyped for the Illician Lancers Ostlance, myself
>>97720703>>97720778Huh. Is there a place I can find these other charts, or are they scattered across the internet?
>>97725130I've been reading beast cries out recently and it's good. Tiger lady hasn't shown up yet
>>97726220I'm still canon, and nothing you ever do will be. Eat shit, bigot.
>>97722357A better idea actuallyA shadowhawk IIC-10 thats been refurbished by the inner sphereClan double sinks replaced by bulkier IS double heat sinks Pulse lasers and ER lasers swapped for regular lasers to deal with less efficient heat managementUAC10 can stay, since its already used by the sphere
>>97726268>Alyina Mercantile League Star (Quarter 1 2026 release)Butcherbird (Ion Sparrow)Jade PhoenixHierofalconHellcat (Hellhound II)Summoner (Alternate pose and variant)Alyina is the real CJF and Warriors < Merchants
>>97722319>Hanse the Merciless >Not Hanse the Heartless wasted opportunity
>>97725256Because they're literal, explicit gangsters. You idiot. They ARE the mob.
>>97724982>>97725121What makes the snow ravens goth?
>>97726149I can smell the liberalism wafting off this face.
>>97726220Daily reminder.Fags are 3% of the human race.Troons are 1% of that 3%.And yet somehow Bryan Young has two of them. Young kids who 'chose' and 'are' tr00ns.
>How can I derail the thread to whine about trannies today?>Aha! Perfect!
>>97726356we are too low function for that
>>977264883% of the population but 86% of the anons thoughts, curious.
>>97726474Yea, the fat cheeks and the vindictive expression. Thats why Lin Bao is best mechwarrior waifu
>>97726533Your generated trash is shit, at least purple feminazi doesn't have shitfingers.
>>97726416Drink bleach, hack, you're not even competent enough to sweep Coleman's porch
>>97726542Ill fix it, just need to wait 5 more hours, lol
>>97726356Those charts specifically are from the CI dash N fan website that is not otherwise used for anything. It can be found by googling CAF R&D Technical Report weight/speed optimization. Of particular interest is the vehicle section that has data for all the different motive and engine combos.
>>97726427>another SummonerFeels like I'm drowning in those things. Probably a pass on that Star from me.
>>97726480>And yet somehow Bryan Young has two of them. Young kids who 'chose' and 'are' tr00ns.Brainwashed into a cult by a psycho parent, there'll be Hallmark movies about them in 20 years
>>97726472Shit like Harmony Gold makes me wish they went even harder on mobsters than the RICO act. No other reason, purely because they meddled in my mecha hobby.
>>97726543Still canon tho.Fox Patrol is better than anything you'll ever write. You can post here with the other bigots all you like and it won't change anything. My vision for BattleTech is the future. Cry about it, tug your red hat low, and follow your führer.
>>97726692>führerCapital-F on that, you uneducated shit, and when I write the book that scrubs Fox Patrol from canon forever in the most ignominious way possible, rest assured the demon riding your meatsuit will have you drive off an overpass in angst, and your incorrectly-pronouned children will celebrate your death with all the joy they lack while you draw breath
>>97726566Summoners are supposed to be way more common than Timber Wolves. A bunch of the trinaries in the original JF sourcebook are 1/3rd summoners.
>>97726689
>>97726712>when I write the book that scrubs Fox Patrol from canon foreverAwww, wittle Nazi thinks he's people.You'll never matter, and you'll never write for Catalyst Game Labs. You've never been what they want and you'll never amount to anything more than a bigoted coward who can't even kill the people you profess to hate so much. My kids are better men than you, and they're girls.Enjoy the waste that's what passes for your life. I'll be out here forming the future of a great game, and making the world a better place for love and giant robots. Fare well, anon. Have a very happy and recent suicide.
>>97726713>A bunch of the trinaries in the original JF sourcebook are 1/3rd summoners.A tip of the hat to Aiden Pryde for the work he got out of his, but I have no use for more than I already possess, and the rest of that AML Star is just Jade Falcon droppings.
>>97726727Your masters are getting old, hack, they can't save you from what's comingTick tock, the vengeance of your sons draws nigh
>>97726735Do something about it then. I'll be at Adepticon, with my kids. Do something, coward.
I've decided to paint my FC batallion as the Davion Guards with VSD leading the front in Prometheus (even tho he's painted as FedCom RCT). It gives me the excuse to have a davion force that isn't locked to a specific era. My cappies will then be 2nd MAC as I mentioned before, I'll start painting them on friday. Need to divy up all my mechs to decide who will be who. IDK if I should split my clan mechs up amongst them or use them to make a clan force. Shame that NONE of the IS clans during CI/FCCW interest me in the slightest, but I might just do Jade Falcon since they have a border with the FedCom
>>97726792>Shame that NONE of the IS clans during CI/FCCW interest me in the slightest
>>97726820Ok... Steel Viper is the closest, but didn't they leave after the CI? IK i said CI initially but I mostly mean FCCW since that's the era I've played the most. Might just do Steel Viper then
>>97726829They spend some time seizing Jade Falcon worlds during the Tukayyid truce, then get booted out of the IS through writer fiat and go back to the Homeworlds, where they do really well until they get betrayed by the Star Adders and Cloud Cobras. They suffer Annihilation in the 3070s.
>>97726845IK about them during the Wars of Reaving, that's really *all* IK about them. They're sick there, I just didn't know when they leave the IS. But sure, I could do 'em
>>97726848They leave the IS in 3061, after the Hegira War.
>>97726865Well I guess I'll paint them for CI or whatever
>>97726867If you want them in later eras, you could run them as a Pirate Band or Mercenary Company that heard of them and is trying to fake being them as a smoke screen or abuse their reputation.
>>97726785>>97726735>>97726727>>97726692LARP wars, LARP invasion, LARP civil war, republic of LARP, LARPhad, LARP age, war of LARP, second LARP league, IlLARP, LARPerlands.
I snagged a copy of the 2nd edition of AGOAC for 20 bucks. The one with the Unseen standies. I'm excited
>>97726957Neat. Enjoy, anon. They usually go for way more these days.
>>97725740By standing still you get a -1 AMM. Combine this with the MAS and you have a TMM of 3.The mech either wants to get in close and both backstab and use the taser as much as possible or sit in some trees and spot for IF.
>>97726957Are you getting it for nostalgia reasons because you had it back in the day, or as a collectible curiosity? I would probably have paid $20 just to smell it and revive some memories.
>>97727003I actually only started playing BT last year. I am getting it to compliment my modern AGOAC box and actually play with it (albeit babying the hell out of it). The Unseen standies were the main draw. The collectible factor is secondary for me, but it is definitely really cool to own a copy that is 10 years older than I am next to the 40th anniversary copy.I'm also trying to get more people interested in the game, as very very few people even know about it where I live (Mexico City). I think it'll be a good way to draw some eyes at local game shops
>>97727026*complement
>>97727026scan the standies and print them on cardstock; then use -those- to play with. That way some random scrub doesn't ruin your 30-year-old box set
>>97727117The scanned standies are already in the trove if he wants to do that.
>>97727117>doesn't ruin your 30-year-old box setIt's over 40, now. I would know. I'm only a couple years younger.
>StrumFeur $3.75>Ontos $5.00>Behemoth $5.50Are any of these good?
>>97727156The Ontos is the medium laser vee to use if you can afford more than the standard laser carrier.
>>97726542
I've been grinding through a rules packet for my local to run chaos campaign games and I have a wild question: If you could take 'Mechs with the Compact 'Mech quirk to double the number of 'Mechs you could take on a Track (with the same BV limits) would you do it? As a reminder Scale 1 is 3000 BV, so if you wanted to take 4 mechs this way they'd have to be all 750 BV or less. We're tentatively looking at FCCW, so literally your only option would be 4 Locusts.Are there any other 'Mechs you think deserve the Compact 'Mech quirk given that kind of houserule? Any 'Mechs that ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN'T be allowed to pull that kind of bullshit?
>>97726596
>>97727305As an addendum you wouldn't be required to take all Compacts, you could take, for example, two Locusts and something else at Scale 1.
>>97727305The only one that even exists in FCCW is the Locust, which isn't exactly a powerhouse. The Jackalope is basically an alternative to the Spider/Venom, and the Sarath is a nasty PPC brawling omnimech, but they're both 60+ years after crazy Kat does her thing.
>>97727305>Locust LegionsA PLAUGE UPON YOUR HOUSE!
>>97727326Yeah that's why I'm asking if any others seem like they'd deserve the spot. Including special rules for it seems a bit silly if it's the only one that gets it.There is naturally a balance factor to it, in that if you're taking more compact mechs your individual BV per mech is getting super tight. I've also got frontloaded initiative on the docket, so if you're not careful you'd be marching them off to die pretty easy.I'm also trying to figure out if I can make rules for Distracting that won't require Morale checks; something like forcing enemies to shoot at it depending on their skill level (like, Green Mechwarriors have to shoot it as their Primary Target with their biggest damage gun in range, Regular Mechwarriors have to shoot it as their Primary Target and Vets/Elites have to shoot at least one gun at it if it's in range.)I might just be overcomplicating things, but I've got a nasty cold so I've got all the time in the world to play with rules.
>>97727339
Tried out the Viking for the first time tonight. Took the WoB version and then babysat it with a Light SRM Carrier. Linked it in a C3i network to a Preta. Probably didn't need the bodyguard truck given the fact the Viking-3W has four (4) MML9s and two Streak SRM2s. But on the other hand, anything that got between them would have been double fucked, and I'm kind of disappointed the OpFor didn't accept my invitation to an SRM sandwich. OpFor managed to jam my network only about a third of the game, so the VIking was putting out the hurt with great to-hit numbers most of the game. And as always the Warhammer 9S with its 20 DHS brought the thunder. I fucking love that variant. I think I'm getting the hang of Battle Armor. The Preta dropped a squad in heavy woods between the OpFor brawlers and my skirmish line. He got excited and brought his Starslayer in to get behind my lines, but I drew back my skirmish line enough to focus it down. I ammo binned a Griffin IIRC, and took the head off an enemy Thunderbolt with my own Thunderbolt. More or less. The details are already fuzzy but that sounds about right. He had an Avatar that was alternating between dueling my Viking and trying to knockout my Warhammer. I put some damage on it early and it sat at range in some woods with the ECM equipped Wasp after that mostly. The Preta Dominus is nice. A 6/9/8 omni with IIJs, 4 ERMLs, a TarComp, and exactly enough heat sinks to use all of that every turn AND carry my BA to where it needed to be. Definitely one to remember.I fucking love Battletech, guys, seriously.
>>97727294Better. Now give her a lore compliant neurohelment instead of generic Titanfall slop, and a boob window. Or sideboob cutouts. Some part of her tits need to be showing for this to have any validity as Battletech art at all.
>>97727583>boob window. Or sideboob cutouts. Some part of her tits need to be showing for this to have any validity as Battletech art at all.Proofs?
>>97727583lore compliant is a korea-vietnam era looking small helmet up to and including funky new f-35 fullhelms, and overalls / flightsuit style cooling full body suit.its ONLY in maximum mad max era that tech got so bad they lost the ability to make and maintain such, and had to go back to the clunky, less good, but far tougher and cheaper and easier to make buckets, the training and testing nuerohelms that were never intended for actual combat, and had to go into battle naked or in panties / jockstraps with a mere cooling vest, since they could no longer make the star league era suits.but filthy clanners, cumstain, elite dracs etc never lost those, so they kept their much lighter and smaller NH's (that only work for them and them alone, whilst the buckets can be reconfigured)and proper cooling suits.and once helm memory core proliferated, and clans invaded, the OG sl era tech re-proliferates.
>>97727583For what it's worth, the more compact neurohelmet could work in the post-Clan era, or be a Star League relic.
Why the fuck UAC2~5 are used after RAC2~5 become available?
>>97727791RACs have less range, take up more space, weight more, and cant use meme rounds
>>97727791List of inner sphere mechs made after 3071 that use an ultra 2 or 5: Storm Raider R2Sentinel 6SDeep Lord militamech B End of list.The clan list is more extensive, but then again clan ultras are three tons lighter than their rotary counterparts instead of just one.
>>97727813>precision ammo>-2 TN>a 'meme'...
>>97727828It's not -2 TN. it's -2 from the TMM to a minimum of 1
>>97727863Minimum of 0, I'm tired
>>97727813Thought UAC can't either
Has there never been a case where the mech's RS got changed?
>>97727117Good call>>97727139I didn't know this, thanks for the heads up!
>>97727908Mad Cat and some other Clan mechs, which were originally statted with factional accounting. IIRC Mad Cat lost a small laser and a small amount of armor or something. If you include when the game was still called Battle Droids, then all mech (or droids) started at that point, since the original rules didn't have in-engine heat sinks (the reason mechs like Marauder and Crusader have side torso with nothing but a ton of ammo, making any crit there an instant ammo explosion, is because originally all the other slots were taken by heat sinks).
>>97727908Few times. When they changed how fractional accounting worked some mechs became overweight so they had to change the RS. Easiest example of this in action is if you check the original TRO 3050 Mad Cat vs current it had to shed .5 tons.There's a few other examples out there as well including typo fixes but can't for the life of me think of exact cases at the moment.
Well, I was hoping for more radical changes on LAM construction rule/existing RS when they touch AeroTech, but guess it won't happen
>>97727907I genuinely forgot that meme rounds are for ACs onlystill, RACs arent a pure upgrade over UACs
>>97727969If they change AeroTech I am expecting a lot of autistic screeching followed by Herb being burned at the stake and will accept nothing less!
>>97727294Its still generic slop trash that doesnt have any place in battletech
>>97725132The sculptor based this one off of the TRO:3055U art for the Black Python 3, where all the lasers are mounted in the middle of the body. I guess the medium pulse is just up higher for visual interest. Since the lasers are all slightly different sizes on the actual model it wouldn’t make sense to swap the colors around either.
>spend a few decades observing the IS through the wolf's dragoons>know that the IS has no idea what a batchall, or any of of your culture is>act surprised when the IS has no idea what the fuck you're talking about The clans make no sense during the invasion. Or were they banking on the IS being ignorant of their ways so they can steamroll them without honor loss?
>>97728328They weren't there to fight the IS, they were there to fight each other for the position of IlKhan. So Clan scoring rules applied.
>>97727969My only hope is that they split Bimodal into Prototype LAM with its current setup setup and then adds in a different Bimodal that adds less weight than a Triple gains compared to a base mech. If I had to eyeball it...maybe around 2-3 extra tons free at the 50 Ton size? For reference, a standard mech is about 5 tons lighter at that size when given identical armor/engine/jets/etc to a triple changer LAM, so 2-3 tons would be right in the middle.Like it's still gonna be weak compared to standard mechs and aerospace stuff, buy it allows you a bit of room to do some stuff since you can't use the utterly broken AirMech form.
>>97728328Pretty sure Clan honor demands you issue a batchall even though tyou know IS doesn't follow Zellbringen, so you can go "you dare refuse my batchall" and have now a justification for stomping them with whatever forces you deem fit.
>>97728731Clanners still have to bid amongst themselves to fight the IS even if they don't follow zell during the fight.
>>97726441Jaws ain't my scene, as the immortal bard put it.
28 Mechs almost ready for painting, even mix of Clan and IS.
>>97728863That's a cup of ice, though.
>>97728979>he doesn't hand carve his minis from icengmi
>>97728328Random ground commanders read Dragoon reports the same way modern military commanders would read a crumpled up "moon chart and tarot cross reference report" that was crumpled under their door at 5 pm on a Thursday. Or they didn't read it at all because there's arguably one (1) semi-honorable 'goon, only because her combat record against trueborns was great. But even then, she volunteered for this nonsense and has also demonstrated very dishonorable conduct off of the battlefield (and hasn't proven her combat prowess against foes that matter recently, only silly barbarians). The rest of them are either literal freebirths or lack discipline and honor and that's why they ended up there in the first place. Not worth consulting.
>>97728994What Canadian nonsense is this?
>>97726441Hanse the Horrible
>>97729301Hanse the Horny
They were just made for the cartoon, but the Falcon's Claws should have become a template for yourdudes clanners. They're able to operate independently and using their own colors. I guess the Red Corsairs are in the same boat.
>>97729989Is there overmuch difference in practice between that and having a Mercenary company that picked up some Clan Mechs and started adopting Zellbrigen? Or some planners getting influenced by the Inner Sphere and starting up their own?
>>97730388Thematically it's a huge difference.
>>97730388>and started adopting Zellbrigen?Why the fuck would you do that? Even the dracs learned to stop doing honorable duels against clanners by Wolcott (which is why they were able to fake out the clanners BTW). The clanners themselves stopped doing zell against everyone but other clanners, famous personalities and various types of knight by the DA. The clanners who start merc units go full IS and sure as fuck don't use zell.If you want "Your Dudes" who still do things like regular clanners, then you probably want Dark Caste. Classified like bandits but mostly fuckers who refuse to fail down to civilian castes. They're the kind of assholes that would still LARP in combat.
>>97730425Always wondered why hardcore traditionalist recluses like the Blood Spirits would become more liberal in their interpretation while designated Wolf jr Coyote would stay autistic
>>97730506>while designated Wolf jr Coyote would stay autisticOh, that's easy, Anon. You see, a shit ton of the Society was Clan Coyote scientists and warriors, so all the people who were less autistic were on that side until they got wiped out.
>former comguard unit>left Comstar and joined the federated sunsmy idea for mydudeslorelet, so I am not sure if anyone can leave comstar without disappearing forevertheir control over FTL communication sounds like it would be trivial for them to track down and eliminate any loose endsbut I really just wanted an excuse to paint my minis in Earth Federation colors
>>97730506Spirits had to start bending the rules due to coming under constant attack by first the Burrocks and then the Adders to the point threatened their continued existence. They would still be extremely strict about following Zell when they were launching trials, but when it came to defending their holdings against other Clans they started abandoning Zell out of necessity.
>>97730569Depends on the era. Any time the comguards are public they probably can't get away with overt action, just frowning at them any time they make a call.
Had Frederick Steiner actually 'used'/'played' by those around him, or he himself was a political idiot and blaimed the others when his fuckups got to him?
>>97730425Wait, is that $$$ real or edit
>>97730780Fred blamed himself and Teddy still blew the side of his face off.
>>97730787It's real in that it's true, but it's not part of the original picture.
>>97730569Seems like a Blakist trick to me. https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Broadsword_Legion
>>97730787Edit, TW has them as liberal in both columns (another sourcebook also has Smoke Jaguar as strict then opportunistic)
>>97729989I was somewhat curious if there could be something like an independent Clan command--something like an Errant Force-- either during or post REVIVAL which could either be doing intelligence gathering or doing the Clan version special operations.Something like a Trinary getting dropped off at an important but not critical planet with a 'bye honey have a nice day at school' so that the main force could move on without leaving themselves open to any surprises, or operating well ahead of the invasion force to link back up later.Naturally as things get more chaotic post-CI, I mostly wanted to think about that as an excuse to have little pockets of clan forces out where they 'don't belong', like in the Chaos March in Fedcom.
>>97731024>Naturally as things get more chaotic post-CI, I mostly wanted to think about that as an excuse to have little pockets of clan forces out where they 'don't belong'Post invasion, seekers start poking around in the sphere, so they're a decent option as well.
>>97731024>>97731047Kind of wonder what the explanation is for Jade Falcons constantly appearing all over the Inner Sphere and Periphery in the most random ass places post invasion? Its like they heard there was degeneracy and death nearby and they got there as fast as they could?
Ive been thinking. How could the ilkhanate have been done better or in general the clan occupied worlds developed naturally?I thought the wolves and bears were doing decent, shifting more into actual nations. But Falcon and most other clans were largely the same.How would you have handled the clan occupied worlds post the great smoking of the jaguar.
>>97731453The natural development of something as hyper specific as clannism would be for it to either retreat into reclusive bastions where no outside contact is allowed or end up diluted into more generic authoritarianism with a "warrior caste" that's just a junta or party or other closed ruling class. It can't survive contact with other societies fully intact. Basically either go full North Korea or full USSR.
>>97731453The attempted strict implementation of the retarded hell that is clan society results in the clan occupation zone using it collapse into total anarchy.Or "occupied" worlds are given almost total societal autonomy and just need to fulfill generous resource, war material and manpower quotas, while the actual clanners on each planet just live and are based in what is basically a big planetary oversight compound that serves as the interface between the local government and greater clan government.
>>97731553Ironically the 'clan' leading from battlefleets over a series of tributary worlds would be VERY Mongol.Maybe allow local militias and limit proper proper army stuff to a series of 'clan cities' where they could recruit and manage from when the main khan fleet is away.
>>97731516nah they just go proper feudal.Warriors are knights, thus rule over landed fiefs.Surnamed warriors are nobles. Their "houses" rule over a set of lesser fiefs and tend to only name those under them thus keeping it all "in the family"Science nerds are a resource to be distributed as the Khan sees fit.Same for workers.Merchants do whatever so long as they make money and dont mess with the order of things.
Other than being cheaper, what advantage do battlemechs have over omnimechs?
>>97731617do not underestimate the value of cheaper. both in lore and TT.plus they can be more easily specialized.
>>97731617They can have both a hand and a big gun on the same arm. And that's about it. The thing is, if you break the rules of omnimechs like removing fixed equipment, then you've just turned it into a very expensive regular mech. But if you gotta, you can do it without any extra difficulty or time above and beyond what it would take to perform that operation on a regular mech.
>>97731625>>97731637Was wondering if I can give a good enough reason for mydudes star using battlemechs despite of being first line
>>97731676For clanners, the prestige of having an omnimech trumps any other consideration. Except for Scorpion seekers. They'd proudly fly an age of war Shadow Hawk over a Mad Cat, as long as it has the original warranty in the glove box.
how long can someone live in battletech with cybernetics and treatments and such assuming they aren't merk'd in combat
>>97731740You can push into your 130s, while still being physically active through your 110s. Even random nobodies can go to their 90s without much extra effort. If anything, cybernetics are actually a detriment to your lifespan.
>>97731617Omnimechs are only 25% more expensive anyway, cost isn't a huge deal.
>>97731756waco killed jaime wolf in like his early 100s right? that's kinda crazy to me
>>97731676Sufficiently severe combat losses, maybe. For example, by the Hanseatic crusade, the scorps seem to only have enough omnis to fully outfit a single first line galaxy. Tau and Hellion, which are used as first line, are mixed.
>>97731776Slight correct, Mu also only has omnis on it's RAT per the crusade book. So two galaxies.
>>97731453The start of the IlClan era is pretty awkward, but I'm currently giving it a pass because Battletech as a whole was thrown into a deep hole of fuckery with how Wizkids handled it between their timejump from 3067 to the 3130s and status quo resets and all that other shit.When the FASA stuff took ~18 IRL years to cover about 40 in-universe years, CGL having to patch up the 80 years of empty timeskip and then progress anther ~20 in 19/20 IRL years that they've had the licence is...not ideal but fine. It wasn't the cleanest job, but let's just keep rolling forwards rather than keeping trying to wrangle with the bullshit Wizkids pulled.
what era do you guys play in?what era would you assume most people play in?do you only play mechs or combined arms?if you only play mechs, is it due to distaste for combined arms or does your group just prefer mechs and lack treadhead/toad autismos?
>>97731800Clan Invasion, ilClan, occasionally Civil WarClan Invasion and introtech for the grogsCombined arms, with battle armor and VTOLs being more common than tanksN/A
>>97731769And there was a three+ time coordinator who lived to be 136, serving as daddy's only heir until she got married to someone more qualified in the eyes of the court nobility, then baby's regent after her husband ate bad shellfish, then "most qualified person around so she's getting the job" after her son died by falling down some stairs, her grandson was removed from the neck down for being an absolute twit, and her great-grandson died of some sort of completely unsuspicious respiratory disease with no known cure. Then she stepped down and stuck around being a courtier for another 25ish years before finally kicking the bucket, allowing her granddaughter who had taken the role to finally release that breath she had been holding since she was told by granny that she could certainly have the throne if she's sure she really wants it.
SRm carrier or Light SRM carrier?
>>97731617Even when built to full clanspec, they are still cheaper and easier to maintain.No omnipods means stick A always just goes into slot A.
Do we know whether Snord's Spartan is the one that the Dragoons brought over or the one that they recovered from some cache?
>>97731676Clanners dont want you to know this, but many battlemechs (clan) are in fact, far and away superior to omnimechs (clan)See; Hunchback C vs. Say... a stormcrow.
>>97731945The Stormcrow's available earlier though, and I'm not a cheater who'd use the Hunchback C before it's introduced.
>>97731945No shit. I sorta assumed that's why he wanted to use battlemechs in the first place.
>>97731453>How could the ilkhanate have been done better or in general the clan occupied worlds developed naturallyIt couldn't. End of discussion. It's a shit storyline and should never have existed, and it's ruined the franchise by existing at all.
>>97731957Nah, I got Jenner IIC, Hunchback IIC, Rifleman IIC, Grizzly and Kodiak; but was thinking of painting them in the Alpha Galaxy color
>>97731948There's no RULES against using the Mechs I like when I want to use them. Fuck off.
>>97731983Still cranky that you got outed as a cheater?
>>97731800>what era do you guys play in?I play a lot of Jihad and ilClan, sometimes FCCW and Clan Invasion. Once in a while Late Succession War.>what era would you assume most people play in?Clan Invasion or ilClan, probably.>do you only play mechs or combined arms?I often play as Word of Blake, so generally add a BA squad and a convee to 4 mechs to make a proper Level II.
>>97731992There's no such thing as cheating when there's no RULES governing the situation. You just can't cope with the fact that other people play differently and better than you.
>>97731992NTA but you're the one who's been seething about this for months.A) you'll never play with anon, so it doesn't fucking matter to you at allB) if a recorc sheet for a mech exists, it is meant to be played with.Get over it already for fucks sake.
>>97731948nta and this kinda different but if I use the magnetic clamp is standard variant before its introduction in 3141 and fluff it as a refit my mercenary company did would you consider me a cheater?also why aren't there more is standard variants? I love that thing, I feel like there should be a bajillion more considering how ubiquitiois its stated to be
>>97732089The thing with the IS is the modular mount means you can swap out the gun without really creating a variant, which actually cuts down on the number of variants. Also, all the houses started making their own House specific ones not long after, like the Kurita Raiden and such. They're basically IS Standard variants, but listed as different chassis.If you asked politely and provided that fluff I'd say sure. Might break out a custom omnimech config or two though.
>>97731945>Stormcrow B is worse than Hunchback CMad because you have to make decisions about what weapons to use?
>>97732113The Raiden was almost cool. A one shot SRM + main gun with 7 points of armor isn't bad at all for a medium
>>97732052Except minimum year for tech and introduction date are things that have been in existence since the earliest editions. So there are and have long been rules governing when you are able to use mechs.
>>97732154I don't see those anywhere in the BMM. Fuck off.>>97732084>if a recorc sheet for a mech exists, it is meant to be played with.THIS! Exactly this! Nobody can tell you that playing with a legal record sheet is ever wrong or illegal. You're entitled to use any legal unit you want in a game. Anyone who has a problem with that doesn't belong in Battletech. Or in gaming at all.
>>97732084Look at what you've enabled. Your parents would be ashamed.
How much would germanium ingots worth? Would they be enough to fund starting merc business?
>>97731800>what era do you guys play in?Introtech or Civil war, usually.>what era would you assume most people play in?Clan Invasion.>do you only play mechs or combined arms?My wednesday pickup games are almost exclusively mechs, the campaign on saturday has combined arms.>if you only play mechs, is it due to distaste for combined arms or does your group just prefer mechs and lack treadhead/toad autismos?Time, mainly. We don't start until ~5:30, so adding too many units to the mix just takes too long. We occasionally have some BA, but that's about it. Given we can crack a game out in about 2 hours we probably could throw some tanks or inf in, but no-one has really felt compelled to.
>>97732376I would be surprised if there wasn't an exact value per pound or ton listed in a source book somewhere.
>>97732506If you can find the value of a jump core, that's a good start. Obviously those have a lot of work put into shaping them, but materially they can be chopped up, melted, and losslessly reforged, so they should be a fairly good indicator of value for what they're made of.
Very few of the commodity prices listed make sense. The build rules have it at 3000 c bills/ton after it's been turned into a jump ship, the RPG books suggest it's more like hundreds per gram.
>>97732506>>977325612,000 C-Bills per ounce, according to a Gemini search result that cites the Periphery Sourcebook.
>>97732193>THIS! Exactly this! Nobody can tell you that playing with a legal record sheet is ever wrong or illegal. You're entitled to use any legal unit you want in a game. Anyone who has a problem with that doesn't belong in Battletech. Or in gaming at all.oh yeah showing up with an ares superheavy to a late succession war game means its everyone else who is wrong and not you being the asshole
Friends are casually playing alpha strike, and got me into it. Here's my Mech Company. I have no idea about eras, i just have cool mechs.
>>97732629>Three Atlases in one company.>One of them is an Atlas IIWell alrighty then.
>>97732661Its 3I Atlas, Because its completely unexpected but takes forever to reach you.
I'm 6 mechs short of 3 battalions of unpainted mechs (I have poor spending habits). The plan is to paint a battalion's worth in a faction's scheme but I've come to an impasse. All three schemes feature blue in some way, them being 2nd MAC, Davion Guards, and Lyran Guards. Any suggestions on which regiments from the Cappies, FedSuns, and Lyrans I should swap one or two of these out with? Picrel is proof that I've painted before so I'm not a paintlet, even if it isn't that great a job. I'd prefer to keep the Cappie as the 2nd MAC but I'm open to anything IG
>>97732732 (me)I'll start painting the cappies friday I promise
>>97732732Davions can be green or red, easy.
>>97732740IK the crucis lancers are olive drab, they any cool? I was thinking Arcturan Guard for the Lyrans but all white is boring to me
>>97732746You can also go camo for one of your forces, because I don't think most units actually fight in their parade scheme unless they're hot shit elite units
>>97732755While I don't hate the idea for going camo, it just seems so boring to me (like all white). But I guess I could maybe make my cappies camo.
>>97732758I'm not particularly into camo either. I made up schemes for my forces instead of using canon units. My goal was to be able to look at it and know it was Capellan/Drac/whatever without using an official scheme. Except for my Blakists and CJF, anyway. Pic rel is my Lyrans.
>>97732777And pic rel is my Cappies. You get the idea.
>>97731948hey dumbfuck. by necessity, if someone is using a HBK C, then they're playing in the era its in fucking production, you goalpost moving, strawman building, lying fucktard.
>>97732783My Davions
>>97732626here we see the contrarian-anon i its natural environment, /btg/. Notice how the creature's main tactic is to imagine conditions that did not previously exist in the conversation and then pretend forever they did.
>>97732629those are cool paintjobs
>>97732777damn those are nice
>>97732783>>97732777>>97732794Yeah, I do. Thanks for the examples! I wish the cappies had a clear generic line unit I could just riff off, the Capellan Hussars (Red Lancers, Prefectorate Guard, all the red guys) seem too "up there", so do the warrior houses and obviosuly the Death Commandos, which leaves me with all the militias they run and the mercs they hired on full time as official CCAF commands. Maybe that's my autism but I wish they had some mook unit.
>>97732800Thanks, It was a lot of fun painting them. I've been playing a co-op campaign with some friends, the idea was an escalation style way of building up small mech forces. It inspired me, To me I find joy in painting when I have an audience, I know that no matter how bad my paint job is, as long as its earnest and heart felt makes the game that much more enjoyable and spectacular to play. It had been over a year since I had last painted too, so it was nice to get something done, also while experimenting with some techniques with varying success.
>>97732804The units with reserves in their name aren't militia. True militia units generally don't get named or described. I believe the Confederation Reserve Cavalry keep their name throughout the timeline unlike a lot of the other units that appear in the 4th succession war atlas as mooks.
Are there any ocean based missions? Say you're a mech running security on a super large cargo ship and pirates are flying in various kinds of forces to steal the ship
>>97732804Most of the Capellan line units just use camo, possibly with highlights. There's a few that have a distinct parade scheme, like dark green with red highlights, but usually it's just camo.
>>97732376Isn't the entire Marian Hegemony economy driven by germanium?
>>97732796NTA but if we agreed to play 3050 tech max and you show up with IlClan units I'd just throat-punch you
>>97732732>(I have poor spending habits)Sounds like excellent spending habits to me.
>>97732935go ahead, internet tough guy. WE never agreed any such fucking thing.
>>97732941You're right, I wouldn't play a cheater much less deal with one, nogames cunt
>>97732935what if I showed up with some pa(l)s?
>>97732796I know it's hard to imagine for someone who doesn't play the game, but typically when two people agree to play a game the bare minimum prep they do is agree to an Era and a BV limit.
>>97732943A cowardly nogames cunt. He still hasn't responded to the batchall yet
I think it's just swell that it's unclear if the eras conversation is multiple mentally ill people or just one.
>>97732950which you do not get to imagine up after the fact and pretend effect precedes cause.
>>97732959Buddy, you can't even agree to a hypothetical game where you would be agreeing to the limits because then your own argument would be invalid.
>>97732966because there was never any game at all. you fucking tard. the original post is merely 'here's a list'. that's it. that's the entire fucking extent.
>>97732990Either your are extremely autistic or extremely retarded if you can't think in hypotheticals.
>>97732993no, retard. you faggots keep adding shit in and pretending that was always there
>>97732996Sure anon. But that shouldn't stop you from actively engaging in the hypothetical instead of shitting yourself over it, right?
Is this shit ever going to stop?
>>97733003i refuse to accept your fucking shitposting, trolling terms.you clowns refuse to ever address the actual post in any way, and instead purposefully retard out about things that are not in it.
>>97733017probably not. faggots are going to shitpost forever and I will refuse to accept or accede to their cuntposting and bitch think.they're stupid faggots who have never been told 'no' and are forever mad some random person on the internet told them 'no, fuck off, leave me alone' for the first time ever.
>>97733017Absolutely. As soon as the Hunchback C fag leaves the hobby and these threads forever and kills himself and his entire family, then I'll stop. But not one moment before then. I only wish I could get him to attend a game in person so I could just kill him and be done with it. Valk has the right idea. Every Battletech player should carry a gun, and use it to remove the population that doesn't belong in the hobby.
>>97733025Lmao, honestly anon it sounds more like you're the one who was never told "no" as a kid and now that you've started hearing people say it to you now you'll throw a tantrum, call everyone contrarian-anon, and refuse to engage in discussion
>>97733018The original post is available for all to see in the archives. Now tell us again (like in your first tantrum) that you can take four of them in 3065 when the design is a unique one-off used by one very specific individual in one very specific unit.
>>97733018In that case, address this entirely separate question; you are going to be playing a 5k BV game set in 3039. What force would you bring?
>>97733017My conspiracy theory is that it's designed to make the user base here miserable for some kind of political agenda driven by the big AI companies.
>>97733028He refuses to go play a game in person with anyone from the btg because he knows they wouldn't put up with his crap. He's even hiding in fear from a batchall.
>>97733037i'm not. because no matter what i say, you will ADD caveats and retarded bullshit after the fact to nitpick, misrepresent and lie, pretending they were already there, in order to troll and shitpost some more.
>>97733065I knew you'd respond like this. There are no caveats, no additions, no last minute changes; you have 5k BV to make a force for a 3039 game. What are you taking?
>>977330752 Dasher primes, 2 Von Rhors
>>97733119That wasn't too hard now, was it?
>>97733148not even me, dumbshit.>>97733075i am not buying into your crap, retard
>>97733042That is no conspiracy. It's JIDF and their perma-online tranny servants stated goal.
>>97733160It's clear that you are somewhat socially retarded but I feel I need to ask; are you here to talk about Battletech or just shit post and yell at shadows?
>>97733037>In that case, address this entirely separate question; you are going to be playing a 5k BV game set in 3039. What force would you bring?Not that Anon, but an Annihilator 1X and three SubUrbanMechs!
>>97733330That is also acceptable
>>97731740just get into the freezer devlin, you have a entire republic to destroy in a few decades
Nice to see I can take a two week break from /btg/ and come back to the exact same conversation(s) as last time.
>>97732996Now now nuln, you know we are playing a 3066 game. You can bring one Hunchback C, but only if your playing Ghost Bears.
>>97722319hehe FAGerholm
>>97732847>>97732841Thanks guys>>97732938lol
>Throw in one cheeky mention of the Hunchback C>go to bed>nuln has spent the entire time i was asleep shitting up the thread because his skin is that thinLike clockwork
I hope you have all learned your lesson, if you do not start acting right the ECM attacks will continue.
Ghost Bear exiles "Die Sturmbjornen" incoming.Allies to my Neu Schwabenland forces (of course) who were moved by the kith & kin ideology of the Empire, "Trueborns" of these Ghost Bears are now truly born, the warriors have families tgough tge genetic modification still exists, just taking place in the acrual womb rather than a synthetic one "No womb is more Iron than that of a Ghost Bear Mother"
>>97734588Really putting the ghost in ghost bear
>>97734588Oh they are of the Ursa Major Galaxy, a nod to the Big Dipper origins of the Haakenkreuz through the Cosmic Hunt mythos, which ties in to the Clawing quite nicely as the hunted animal is either a Stag or a Bear.
>>97734588This legit gives me an idea for some Christmas themed decorations.
>>97734595Quite, bet you can't spot the Kodiak
>>97734588>"No womb is more Iron than that of a Ghost Bear Mother"Oh, just came to mind, they consider a warrior blessed if their mother goes to battle while pregnant with them at least once.
>>97734635of fucking course they would. Clanners still gotta clan, even if they are the more sensible ones.
>>97734552The blakism will continue until the morale improves.
>>97734694Ancient pre-christian German tradituon. Women and children would accompany their men to battle and stand on the sidelines to drive the warriors to fight harder knowing that if they lost their wives would be taken and their children slaughtered.
>>97734627Where is he?
>>97734748Hiding, waiting.
>>97734745>ghost bear fan reads TacitusKurita weebs with an open hentaihaven tab could never.
>>97734760And Caesar. This is just one of the many reasons he went for the Gauls instead of the Goths, Romans didn't want to fuck with the Goths.
Where are the neo neo paganism Odin and Cernunnos worshippers
>>97734887I’m hiding in your walls.
>>97734635That's actually a lot easier to accomplish with trueborn since they can use anyone as the "mother" in an iron womb and don't need the fetus to be with the mother at any point during development.
>>97734958That's LARP tier buddy.Asatru is an abrahamic take, they codify like the bible and use christian churches.99% of Futhark examinations are based on Guido von List rather than arcgeoligical examinations, I can see by the context of those titles that yours are amongst that 99%I don't see Adam of Bremen or Bede there, nor do I see any of large texts comprising syncretic examinations of the recorded and numerous European faiths that are also Yamnaya descended.
>>97734479A sight better than that CGI bullshit in the old TRO
>>97734780Contact with the Goths was much later than Caesar, the Empire was several Emperors deep before the Goths showed up to beg for asylum because the Huns were carving them up
>>97734958Where is Grimm's Teutonic Mythology, where is Saxo Grammaticus, Beowulf, Indo-European Interfaces or Walhall Germanische Gotter und Heldensagen?This looks like the meme shelf of a crystal stacking blue haired barista.
>>97735051Caesar wrote about the Goths buddy, he is one of Tacitus' sources.
>>97735132Not the same Goths, Caesar was referencing Germans and calling them Goths
>>97735145Those are the Goths.
>>97735151Not according to anthropology, and later sources than Caesar, but you have to appreciate Caesar being savvy enough politically to paint the Germans as a different people given he was about to attack a German tribe ostensibly allied to Rome to protect Gaulish allies he'd won for Rome, saving himself the public scrutiny over why he was committing to war against a massive tribal confederation for no territorial gain, just a flex
>>97735181>acording to later redefinitionContemporaneous or GTFO
>>97735200Dude, Alaric and his people are centuries after Caesar and don't even come from the same place as the false Goth narrative Caesar wrote about was located, they are not the same people, Caesar's "Goths" were Germans, Alaric's weren't, read some Mommsen
If I wanted to run a late Clan Invasion/Fed Com Civil War lance with a Warhammer WHM-7M-DC, a Wraith TR1, Centurion CN9-D, should I use any remaining points on the pilots, or grab a fourth mech to cover a capability gap. And if a fourth mech, which mech?
>>97735231>there is only one tribe of GothsYeah, GTFO. You're parroting a contentious argument that not all historians maintain.
>>97735265Without the fourth mech, it's a short lance, so I would grab one. I'd add something that can keep up and has LRMs, like a Trebuchet or Whitworth. The command console can spot for them without any penalties.
>>97735308Why not a Dervish?
>>97735320
>>97735326the NukeUrbie
>>97735326The ride never ends.
>>97735326I'm not too fond of that Sunder. It looks all legs.
>>97735376The original is pretty leggy
>>97735324It could be a Dervish, or an Archer, or any of the numerous random CI mechs with LRMs. I wouldn't use a Longbow or Viking though, too slow.
>>97735320>>97735371Given that Mason was born around 2996, wonder how much longer will they milk him. FCCW at most?
>>97735545Average Inner Sphere lifespan is 90 and the Jihad had a bunch of mercenary companies disband, so they could set him up to retire in the wake of it's ending.
