>>97726228
Humans (Good at everything, the most mechanically powerful option, can literally do anything and be anyone)
Halflings (literal protagonist race with the ability to just win at anything they do because they have a pot armor ability in halfling luck)

>>97726228
goat demon tiefling >>> neon/pastel vomit tiefling
that art on the left is infinitely more bearable

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>>97726228
Were you asking for the copy-pasta, OP?

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>>97726228
All of them except humans.

>>97726228
I seriously don't get how /tg/ managed to get so butthurt that some people want to play a pretty demon person.

>>97726325
tall poppy syndrome
they personally cannot understand that other people want to play something different from themselves

>>97726228
>>97726325
>>97726329
kek
No one plays those stupid races in actual games, you poor dumb fagets.
Play moar, bitches.

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>>97726325
Same. Most of /tg/ says they hate retarded faggots, but then plays D&D 5e, a game specifically designed to appeal to retarded faggots.

>>97726476
>>97726405
As always, human-only players arent content that humans are already the most played species in any given system and that human-only settings are a dime a dozen
They feel the need to virtue signal

>>97726492
>non sequitur
kek
Ten posts in, and your brain already broke.
Sad.

>>97726525
As always, human-only players are the loudest and most annoying

>>97726492
Ive found that those who only play humans and/or need to tell everyone else they only play humans are deeply insecure individuals. Its a lack of confidence but also a deep desire to conform to some strange set of ideas about being human, as if theyll lose some part of their own humanity if they even entertain the slightest thought of playing something not human. Which is very silly and very stupid, and I've told them this every single time.

That or the other times it turns out theyre either just very stupid and lack imagination or theyre minmaxing weirdos who also lack imagination. A lot of human-only weirdos really do lack the ability to imagine things. And they pull out the excuse that humans can be anything and have so much potential for character, but every time their own human characters are simplistic, almost blank slate nothings that are basically just shitty avatars of themselves. Ive never had a humans-only player actually do anything interesting with their humans.

Meanwhile, the other players who play a wide variety of shit manage to actually make characters and do interesting things with them beyond a shitty avatar of themselves. Id rather take a dozen theater kid weirdos and furries playing animal people than a single human-only fag, especially one who posts on /tg/.

>>97726525
God, youre pathetic.
Why are you wasting your time trolling /tg/ when you could be doing something more fun and productive in your life? Is your life literally that shit and pathetic that you need to come here and be a shit flinging retard to gain even a little bit of attention?

>>97726240
Retard

Why would I disadvantage myself by playing a non-human? If I wanted to feel like a victim when I'm playing I'd roll up a woman.

>>97726589
>shit-flinging retard
kek
Doctor, heal thyself!

And while you're at it, fuck off with your shitty trollthred, fuckwit.

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>>97726285
I hate that a part of me agrees with almost every point in the image even though the person making that point sounds like an asshole I would never want to share a campaign with.

>>97726605
I'm right and you know it.

>>97726285
That GM's a faggot and so are (you) and OP.

>>97726325
Because /tg/ are full on parroting contrarians. If they think something is popular, they hate it. If they think something is obscure, they love it. They don't know shit about what they love or hate mind you, they're tourists through and through who have never touched anything other than a D6 that came with monopoly, let alone read an RPG rulebook, and so a good rule of thumb is if 4chan hates something, it's good. If 4chan likes something, it's steaming hot dogshit. Case in point, there's some delusional faggot who claimed FATAL is a well-designed game in another thread on this board right now. he's wrong, but I know all you contrarian cocksucking cum-guzzling faggots will chime in and go ERM AKSHUALLY BEING ABLE TO KILL YOUR CHARACTER DURING CHARGEN IS LE GOOD GAME DESIGN! because you are, as established, insufferable, miserable, useless, retarded, homosexual, dick-riding, no-game faggots.

>>97726768
>ERM AKSHUALLY BEING ABLE TO KILL YOUR CHARACTER DURING CHARGEN IS LE GOOD GAME DESIGN!
its also a bit of an exaggeration
its like an unintentional 1/100 chance to happen that requires you to be trying to kill yourself that was kept in because it was both funny and impacted virtually no games
so its less an example of game design, good or bad, and more like a game bug that was left in as an easter egg
if it ever happened, you just make a new character after laughing for a bit

>>97726492
>>97726589
Human-only players in systems where there are other options are almost always That Guy. They're usually min-maxing attention whore faggots who want to play LE EPIC UNDERDOG but also get mad when their bland, boring, nothingburger of a character gets passed over for players who care about the setting and the game and don't just pick the laziest option, for players who know how to roleplay properly instead of bringing a bland stat brick with some combo they found on reddit to the table. It's not 100%, but 99.9% of the time this is how it goes.

Human only players are the laziest, most uncreative, socially inept, malajusted, egotistical little faggots and this is why you ban human and all human-like options the second one of these fucks shows up at your table.

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>>97726228
>shows up everywhere
>usually the majority
>good at everything
>always ends up winning in the end

>>97726779
The fact that it's possible (alongside the miryad of other utterly dogshit rules and game "design" choices in the system) is a horrible thing. It's not an "easter egg", it's a flaw in the system. You sound like one of those faggots on /vp/ who defends gen 1 of pokemon despite the fact it doesn't even fucking work correctly.

FATAL is a very, very, VERY poorly made game, and anyone who even dares to state D&D at its worst is worse than FATAL is either lying, a retard, or both. I have read the system, it is a travesty of horrible choices and bad game design, and calling its creator a game designer is insulting to actual TTRPG game devs.

The worst part is it's not even the worst TTRPG ever made, there's shit out there like Racial Holy War that just doesn't fucking work at all! That game doesn't even have all the rules you need in the core rulebook! It's incomplete! And I know for a fact some of you insufferable contrarian tourist cunts will come out here and defend it, because HAHA EDGY NAME AND SUBJECT MATTER. IT DOESN'T EVEN LIVE UP TO ITS CONCEPT, IT IS OBJECTIVELY BETTER NOT TO BE WHITE IN RHW! SO IDK WHY SO MANY ACTUAL WHITE SUPREMACISTS DEFEND THAT SHIT! IT"S NOT EVEN GOOD AT WHAT IT TRIES TO DO!

There is something comical about coming into these threads and seeing some weirdo crash out about humans like they raped his dog.

>>97726800
i was talking about traveller in this case, not FATAL

>>97726802
It's because I can't stand boring, stupid, lazy people. And human players are that. They pick human so they don't have to learn about the setting, so they can just play whatever (or so they think until I slap them on the wrist and tell them to read the fucking book with their charcoal-ass skin).

>>97726802
You laugh, but by the law of averages, that happened to someone. They might be in this thread.

>>97726802
>There is something comical about coming into these threads and seeing some weirdo crash out about humans like they raped his dog.
these threads are mostly created by human-only players who seethe about anyone choosing to play literally anyone else

non-human players also play humans, they tend to try out all options and dont see humans as anything particularly special
whereas a large subset of human-only players feel the need to rub the fact that they choose only a single option every single time in everyone elses faces

Very comical indeed kek.

>>97726228
i guarantee that tieflings and aarakocra have been playable races longer than you have been playing d&d, tourist

>>97726228
>seething wingless kenku parroting buzzwords about how everyone else but him gets true flight as a racial feature

>>97726285
>Discord screencap
>virtualoptim post
Commit sudoku immediately jesus fucking christ.

>>97726800
D&D at its worst is worse than FATAL because D&D at its worst has ended friendships. The worst FATAL has done is disgust people online.

>>97726827
Nobody who can spin a yarn worth a fuck cares about your rubber forehead star-trek aliens who exist somehow as a stereotype race, that is paradoxically entirely composed of special snowflakes "bravely" subverting the alleged stereotype.

They are all just stand-ins for types of human being you associate with certain traits.
And you don't know what the fuck "Characterization" is, or you wouldn't be trying to replace it with wings, scales and handlebars on your head.

>>97727145
>having scales is a bad character trait
>therefore not having scales is a good character trait
Your argument makes no sense

>>97727157
I laugh at you.

>>97727145
>And you don't know what the fuck "Characterization" is, or you wouldn't be trying to replace it with wings, scales and handlebars on your head.
Only the retards on 4chan think people are replacing characterization with physical features. We can characterize and still have "nonhumans" as PCs. That particular argument only reveals that the poster is a shit-licking retard. Any characterization that can happen with humans can happen with tieflings, dragonborn, lupin, or even weirder, even more freaky races/species/ancestries.

>>97727219
The point was that you DON'T engage in characterization.
Retard.

>>97727223
>The point was that you DON'T engage in characterization.
Except for the fact that I and most others do. All the retarded fuckwits like you who post here complaining about a lack of characterization are taking the words of culture warriors with a penchant for lying as gospel. You're taking the made-up stories of fa/tg/uys as gospel and not the works of fiction they are. You're here to argue something made-up in someones head as if it reflects reality and isnt bullshit.

The only way to make the assumption that people aren't characterizing their tieflings is to assume you know that every player who has ever played one didnt, as if you have perfect knowledge of every such player. Its arrogant bullshit posted because you hate the race and thus assume they are only used by bad players. Your ego is too big for your pinhead. People have been characterizing their nonhumans since they were fucking introduced.

These arguments have been bullshit from day fucking one.

>>97726768
>Because /tg/ are full on parroting contrarians. If they think something is popular, they hate it. If they think something is obscure, they love it. They don't know shit about what they love or hate mind you, they're tourists through and through
This.

>>97726240 is objectively right. But it goes against the echo of "White/Human good, Colour/Inhuman baaaad.", and so people make posts trying to pretend he's 'just stupid' for 'not getting it', when he gets it better than they do.

>>97727259
>You're here to argue something made-up in someones head as if it reflects reality and isnt bullshit.
kek
Couldn't have said it better myself, thanks senpai!

>>97727219
>We can characterize and still have "nonhumans" as PCs.
So why don't you?

>>97727128
Literally who? We don't all follow your gay youtube e-celebs.

>>97727496
they do

>>97726768
Retard
>>97727260
Low IQ mindraped idiot freak

>>97726711
Tranny

I'm running 3 different games weekly, I let my players pick any race that has system support.
I will continue to do so, no matter what you smelly hobos whine about.

>>97726325
It pisses me off because tieflings could be cool but the theater kid crowd turned them into sparkledogs with no edge to them.

>>97726589
One must ever guard his mind against the perils of troonery. Once you imagine yourself as someone who isn't the race and sex as yourself it's just a matter of time before you troon out IRL.

>>97726240
/thread

>>97726802
Not as "comical" as trying to force a meme for 9 years straight.

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>>97726290
Human-only games are very interesting.

>>97726228
I've only ever seen complaints about tieflings, who the fuck actually plays aarakocra?

>>97727259
To be quite honest, all whining about tieflings I can recall suggested the people playing them did have a strong character concept in mind.

Are "theater kids" generally playing generic ciphers? Is that a trait particular to them?

>>97729593
>Imagine myself as a dragon
>I can never become a dragon in real life
>"It's only a matter of time until you troon out" t. this anon
The fuck is this logic?

>>97730423
>human only
that party clearly contains a yoshi

>>97731690
Ha ha...

>>97726285
Based honestly. Fuck freakshit

>>97729593
>One must ever guard his mind against the perils of troonery. Once you imagine yourself as someone who isn't the race and sex as yourself it's just a matter of time before you troon out IRL.
This anon is exactly what I am talking about in how deeply insecure human-only (and strictly male-only) players are. Only someone who already harbors some doubts about their own nature, someone who already thinks about how much they might like being a "troon", would consider this.

Anon, you are already the "troon".

As someone who isnt a "troon", the idea that thinking about being a female minotaur, a male dwarf, an agender robot, or any number of other things would lead me to not being secure in my own nature is utterly silly, and has been utterly silly. Ive played females and males for over 20 years. Im still a dude and will always be a dude.

>>97731591
>Are "theater kids" generally playing generic ciphers? Is that a trait particular to them?
lol no. The problem I think, stems from the fact that the theater kids are actually roleplaying while the human-only players are generally rollplaying, aka they resent how the DM favors the theater kid and his actually developed character who engages with the story and NPCs outside of rolling dice to kill things.

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>>97726228
It completely depends on the setting. In a really low fantasy or dark setting, yeah, Humans (and also Dwarves because they're based) should be standard with pretty much nothing else. But in a high fantasy setting, bird people are great, fuck you. The only exception to this are half-races. Half-races are a cop out.

Also, since we're on the subject of races and OP is clearly posting 5e art, let's talk about how shitty races are when they're just a "buy this attribute setup" choice. Tying attributes to races is fucking retarded and turns the game into a spreadsheet optimizer. Special racial abilities like flight, dark vision, or magic resistance are far more interesting then +2 to whatever the fuck.

>>97729593
Anon, if you're so insecure in your race and sex that you unironically fear RPing as something else puts you at risk of trooning, then you're already a troon in the closet. To be secure is to be immune and unconcerned by shit like that.

>>97729529
Same, I really don't give a fuck long as you don't bring a portrait that's very obviously by a furry porn artist.

Also elves have been consistently the worst RPers in my experience, not humans or "freakshit" races.

>>97727260
You know anon, if you stopped being so antiwhite you might have more fun.
Just an idea. Less miserable too.

>>97726285
Excellent pasta.
The thing that always makes me flip out is the casual assumption (only held by a few dipshits, but still) that ALL races that WotC pumped out should be allowed EVERYWHERE. These people tend to assume this about subclasses, spells, even backgrounds that are specific to Ravinca or Kyrnn. But races is totally and completely nuts.

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>>97732690
I like when races have a natural bounds for their stats. Like in Basic dnd where dwarfs must have at least 9 con. Agreed on 'race as stat improvement', it's a major piece of the cancer that is buildfagging.

>>97732690
>let's talk about how shitty races are when they're just a "buy this attribute setup" choice. Tying attributes to races is fucking retarded and turns the game into a spreadsheet optimizer.

That is not the racial ability adjustments doing that, that is the result of character building with point buy. Prior to 3e Racial Ability adjustment just modifed the average stats each race had.

>>97732974
Unbounded stats and the shift to point buy as the primary character generation method really were major mistakes.

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>>97726285
>A GM who doesn't set expectations/restrictions
vs
>A Player who rolls up with a character knowing nothing about the game

That aside, the race bit being boring is true. It's the reaction to the race that's juicy, and what if that's what I want? What if I want to be the fish out of water? What if I want the NPCs suspicions and prejudice. Give it to me GM, make my character question his ethics striving to save the people who hate him. Adversity will always build character better than XP.

>>97733032
>point buy as the primary character generation
Do people really? I have played with prescribed arrays before and I hear people talk about point buy but never realised it was ever taken seriously outside of hard core character builders, whom are almost always nogames so I discounted anyway.

I only play human because the systems I play have human as the only race option.
I mostly play modern horror investigation games.

>>97726589
This is a complete cope post btw.

>>97733161
Yes, it reveals the cope of "humans only" -players

>>97726405
Yes they do. Your just out of touch, grandpa

>>97726525
You funny know what non sequitur means

>>97726329
Makes sense. /tg/ doesn't seem to get that you can make all the changes you want at you own games.

>>97729548
There's nothing stopping you from making them edgier at your games. Sounds like you only have an issue with the players. Or what you imagine the players to be like.

>>97726405
I'm currently playing a Tiefling.

>>97726768
>Because /tg/ are full on parroting contrarians
Sounds about right

>>97726228
Aarakocra are a default race in my setting. It's humans, elves, half-elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, aarakocra, tengu, tabaxi, tortles and calyndari (who are Triton but replace the animal friendship racial ability w/ shape water 3x/day, because I don't like them all being aquaman).

There aren't races that shouldn't be playable. There are settings, which should dictate which races are playable. I have zero problem w/ Tieflings in Planescapes, and do not allow them outside of it. We've played an "all fairy" game before that was fucking awesome w/ brownies and pixies and fairies and other small, sylvan peoples. I haven't run one, but would love to run a campaign of goblins, hobgoblins and bugbears. Maybe also orcs and kobolds.

The campaign or setting should dictate allowable races and it's on the GM to determine what those are. That's all.

>>97726285
Guy's a dick about it, but I somewhat agree with the sentiment.
We moved away from race-as-class but it turned into race-as-personality.

>>97733622
1. Setting expectations for a player is a GM's responsibility.
2. When you invent the feelings and motives of others only to explain why their feelings are bad? You're always, every single time, inventing idiot strawmen.

Those statements are stupid and wrong.

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>>97726228
Okay, on the flip side, what are some obscure options for races, ones that you wished showed up more? I love Warforged for example.

>>97726285
Incredibly based.
That being said, the person who wrote that is still a fucking retard for playing D&D. If you want a mature, grounded, human-centric experience, maybe don't play the game that actively markets itself to mentally ill retards with otherkin fantasies. The D&Dogshit brainrot is real.

>>97733852
Kenku, hands down. Duergar. Wemic. I probably could give you at least 50 examples

>>97732974
What systems do this best then?

>>97734349
>Kenku
Quit playing birds with huge boobs, anon.

>>97735614
runequest/mythras (humans roll 3d6 down the line, while a minotaur rolls something like 3d6+6 for str but 2d3+6 for dex)

>>97733052
Based. I will let you play a subhuman

>>97735980
I've made exactly one kenku and it was a he lol

>>97726285
>obey MY standards for the zero sum reading of the fantasy game!
no

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>>97737205
How big were his boobs?

>>97726802
statistically of all the playable races across all rpgs, 100% of dog rapes (and other rapes) were performed by humans
so yeah, there's a good chance some human DID rape their dog and they just wanted to feel like some other species for a second in a fantasy, potentially one with no dog rapes

>>97737234
Birds aren't mammals

>>97737255
Humans aren't the only animals that rape

To remind you all, this specific thread is posted by one guy and he does it over and over again. I'm not sure if it's trolling, some kind of right-wing political astroturfing, or just mental illness.

>>97738218
It's mental illness

>>97726285
>tiefling are demonspawn
Guy is a retard still desperately clutching onto 3e

>>97735614
Probably adnd 1e but I haven't run it before so can't be sure and don't know that many systems that even attempt it. Basic does it in a simple way as you might expect, only implimenting lower bounds but no upper bounds. Acks in the same manner but with more classes. There is that one other that I know of. It's the one that Ernie jr never got around tl fully publishing.
>>97736005
You have to be trolling. You can't be that stupid.

>>97738266
Yugoloth tieflings would be kino af. Piscoloth tiefling? Dear Lord. Everyone make madness saves at -3

>>97729593
Ironically the troons are the ones that MUST have something that represents their identity in a game or it invalidates their journey or some shit.

>>97732937
Didn't a lot of older editions have like charts for how likely you were to run into an NPC of a particular race? It was mostly the standard fantasy fare with Humans, Dwarves, Elves, and the other races making up the last 10 or 20 of the percentile roll.

>>97738736
Yeah 1e DMG has something pretty similar to this iirc

>>97726228
Depends entirely on the setting. The rulebook should be seen as a catalogue of items one CAN use not a guide of what MUST be.
You design a world and determine what will fit. You don't have to use everything. People forget this.

>>97740048
>Yeah 1e DMG has something pretty similar to this iirc
NTA, but do tell please.

>>97726228
Maybe level adjustment wasn't an ideal solution, but I liked that it attempted to solve the problem of "overpowered" races.
You want to play drow with extra drow abilities? You need more XP to level up, suck it up.

>>97726711
truke

>>97744506
I feel like the Warcraft RPG actually handled it better by including racial classes which had to be taken to a certain level before you could start taking normal class levels, depending on the race.

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>>97738199
Sooo.... how big were his boobs?

>>97727260
>>97726240
>>97729944
Redditors

>>97743879
Honestly would have to get my books out from storage. I'm sure it's in the appendices

>>97726228
Didn't read the rest of the thread, don't care.

TRPGs are a social hobby and should favor imagination and fun, maybe don't allow a player to be a Beholder in a space opera, but in a fantasy setting? Fuck it and allow nearly anything.

>>97745077
Can you read, you autistic fuck. How's your gaping wound?

>>97745261
All I see is you avoiding a question that's essential to your characters backstory, which tells me you've probably never actually made a character and don't play games

>>97745693
I just don't like you. I'm not sorry that hurts your precious fee fees. You're a punk. I don't owe you anything. I literally don't. And here you are still crying about it. Embarrassing

>>97726768
>ERM AKSHUALLY BEING ABLE TO KILL YOUR CHARACTER DURING CHARGEN IS LE GOOD GAME DESIGN
It is. FATAL is shit for other reasons and it is not good because this can happen, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with this concept in itself, and it's actually funny as shit, and you're a retarded faggot for thinking otherwise.

The tourist contrarian is (you).

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>>97745700
Nogames cope

>>97746055
I'm playing tonight. I'll be sure to post pics to shut your faggot ass up

>>97745748
If your character dies during chargen, the game then becomes literally unplayable. Thus, it is bad game design. It being "funny" one time doesn't make it good game design.

You've never actually written your own TTRPG (let alone read, run, or played any at all) and it shows.

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anything that's not human, elf or dwarf

>>97746546
>If your character dies during chargen, the game then becomes literally unplayable.

No, it doesn't. It means that you overextended when generating the character and will need to generate a new one. It is pretty obvious that you have never actually played or generated a character for a system that includes such a feature and so don't understand how slim the possibility is or the situations that need to occur to cause it.

Games like Traveller a built around the idea that character generation is emergent from the rolls and choices made during character generation rather than starting from a character concept and then stating that concept up. Often in these games part of the fun is actually generating new characters compared to it being more a chore in more "modern" systems.

Older editions of D&D are similar, part of the fun of character generation was seeing the possibilities. You might just end up creating a Fighter, Mage, Thief or Cleric, but on occasion you might qualify for other classes such a Paladin, Monk, Ranger, Druid, etc..

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>>97733622
I wouldn't mind the freakshit so much but a lot of people wanting to play them don't want to play with the attached baggage. Like I remember all the drow players and wannabe Drizzts I played with and they had fun with the fact that people hated and distrusted him even while he was saving them. That was the appeal. You deal with the bullshit and maybe someone thanks you as you walk into the sunset for your next quest. But now it feels like everyone just wants everyone to hug them constantly. The elf and dwarf hate each other but become blood bros. The dark demon character wins the trust of his party. It's like a prebuilt character arc but instead everyone just wants to sing kumbaya and then open a danish shop.

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>>97746055
Apologize to me, nogames

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>>97746055
I am superior to you and all you hold dear

>>97726285
Holy redditor post

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>>97746055
Look upon what you will never have: a game table with players. You play on AI. I play with humans, bitch. The combined experience at TTRPGs at this table is well over a hundred years.
My contribution is 41 years.
You are like little babby compared to me.
We understand system mastery, character depth, level progression, feats, spells, all the magic items, character creation, minmax if we want, some are power gamers (slightly), how to run combat, how to describe in real time how you pick a lock, build a fire, sharpen your blades, appraise a gemstone, research any tome we find, learn a language, learn a real-world language, build a fort, identify correctly any castle pieces, the difference between a catapult and a ballista, identity most monsters that cross our dire path, kill them, subdue them, harvest them for pelts, fangs, or claws for improvised weapons, and fletching. That's just a fraction of what we can do at the table, with any character at any time. You just felch farts on the Internet and call yourself smart. You may cry now. You have my permission

>>97747155
>D&D
>Stranger things
Oh yeah that's how I KNOW you don't play

>>97747222
It was a kid's Xmas gift, feckless bitch. Now what

>>97747222
You guys will literally say anything to be able to spout nogames, won't you

>>97747155
Hm, writing utensils, dice, character sheets, notepads. I'd say this man fucks

>>97747229
Now go play an actual game

>>97747222
There's those tears. Good little bitch

>>97747249
What do you suggest, so I can mock you. DCC? Lmao pathetic mewling faggot

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>>97747255
VtnL actually

>>97747281
>VTNL is a terribad Russian RPG. It, along with FATAL and RaHoWa, form the UnHoly ShiTrinity of Worst Fucking Roleplaying Games Ever Made. If FATAL is a hyperactive 13-year-old who takes hours to finish his attacks while constantly derailing the party with perverted tangents, and RaHoWa is a creepy skinhead who only showed up because his Klan rally got cancelled, then VTNL is the whiny rules lawyer who will spend five seconds copying the sample characters from the BRB, but twenty minutes bitching about the smallest house rule no matter how much the GM wants to let the other players move on. It's Russian, but the Nikita Khrushchev kind of Russian, not the vodka & hot chicks kind of Russian.

The game was made by some lunatic who goes by the name Elenorn Maethor on the interwebz. He claims he spent 14 years working on this piece of shit. Probably constipation; he should get that checked. VTNL is an acronym for "Via The New Legends", whatever the fuck that means (and why is that and only that in English?).
I don't know anon

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>>97726228
What are the key aspects of a race, especially if you want them to be playable?

>>97747341
It's only bad if you don't speak Russian

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>>97733852
Conrasu are so fucking bizarre, I want to see more of them

>>97747424
Well, I'm out

>>97747383
Depends on the system I hate to say but in a generic sense, you they fit into the world, their role in the world, their culture can all three have a big impact. Also, most races have an ability only they can do or do better than others. Most also have a mechanical aspect that effects the game itself, such as the heightened ability to find secret doors (elves), depth underground (dwarves); and if a woman is ovulating or not (hallflings).

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>>97747249
Here we are playing an actual game. Continue crying about things you wouldn't know anything about, TTRPGs

>>97747383
A good fantasy race makes the audience want to do at least one of the following: play it, slay it or lay it.

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>>97726285
You can play whatever races you want as long as the party and setting are coherent. A tiefling, a ratfolk, an assimer, some other bullshit all at once? Incoherent, bad.
Consider:
Short Kings: dwarf, gnome, halfling, kobolds (a treat for the furfags)
Evil Niggas: drow, teifling, half-orc
Normal Niggas: human, elf to taste
Flying Niggas: bird people, niggas that fly idk
And these parties should then be placed in settings appropriate and tailored to them, instead of something more generic where it's only humans and everyone that isn't one sticks out.

>>97747155
>>97747161
>>97747213
I'm sorry you are a gay faggot with shitty gay faggot games. You all sit on stools with no seats to play.

>>97748232
>Eternally seething
Yup, you got blown out

>>97747907
>A good fantasy race makes the audience want to do at least one of the following: play it, slay it or lay it.
And how does one do that?

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>>97746911
I think you may be forgetting someone.

>>97758868
>Evil artefact corrupts the souls of some of the most stalwart champions of men
>Some bumblefuck country squire's nephew carries the damn thing halfway across Middle Earth and only slips up right at the very end
Mary Sue ass race.

>>97747907
Half correct, you'd want to do all three.

>>97758933
Mary Sues don't suffer and Frodo surely did

>>97760542
>Mary Sues don't suffer and Frodo surely did
Yeah, no kidding.

>>97747462
>Conrasu
The fuck? Who would even consider making that a playable race.
>>97746911
I'm having a vision of your life. I see... you blaming your lack of games on schedualling' when actually it's that you have nofriends.

>>97767912
You project your bullshit on everyone else I see

>>97726285
It's his right to dm for whomever he wants, and while I agree that some people really do confuse quirks and specific races' attributes for actual personalities, the point of the game is to have fun, not to write a super deep work of fiction. If a player finds it fun to run a ratfolk or some other furry shit, who the fuck cares man. We are here to have fun. Just find the people who want to have fun with you.

>>97768029
4chan is not reasonable. They hate it when you have fun

>>97726228

Oh look, another Jewish psyop thread.

Anti-human is a code for anti-White.

>>97726285
In fairness to some of these points, a lot of DnD 'races' have significant cultural practices and identities of their own.

It's not like your characters' race doesn't actually inform on their character and identity, even if you try and go against it.

>>97768076
Fewer than 10% of humans are white you dumbshit tourist.

>>97768427
Not him, but what are some particular favorites of yours in that regard?

>>97768076
Elves are the white man's fantasy race

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>>97727260
Put a cock in it troon

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>>97726285

>>97771583
He's right tho

>>97771686
>He
Pretending to be someone else is as stupid as pretending to be a woman faggot

>>97771710
You don't have an clue to what he, she, it even is. Not one

>>97771487
This, it's why brownoids and redditors hate them so much.

>>97772831
Elder universally beloved, much like the white man. Only bitter faggots hate elves

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I run settings with my freakshit picked to suit my fetishes, since it's just cooler. Freakshit, of course, is played with the notion that if you are in human lands, you will be seen as strange and exotic. One of my favorite parties comes from a freakshit-only party that presented themselves as attractions for a traveling circus troupe searching for their stolen ringmaster.
I think something that'd otherwise help is having a unified expectation of influences. Grognards will know this as an Appendix N. Having similar artstyles for character tokens can help party cohesion as well. If you're a GM running a setting, you can and should handpick which races are playable in the setting, and make the options known in some sort of setting primer or session 0.

>>97773334
I've always allowed everything as long as it was official

>>97768076
you'll never be the only humans no matter how much you pretend you are

>>97768076
>Anti-human is a code for anti-White.
Yep.
>>97769141
Whites are the greatest humans. Other races get treated equally and with respect, but whites are the heart and soul of humanity.

>>97771418
Drow are always peak.
Fuckin love Drow.

Also don't mind a lot of the Fae races, as well as Dragonborn.

Not enormously into Arracocra or Kenku or Genasi.

Elves, Dwarves and Halflings can be a bit more flexible, depending on the book or the setting, but they all almost always share similar themes regardless.


DESU it's been a while since I've played DnD specifically, but I've distinct memories of searching up races, and being able to find a decent cultural identity to each of them.

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>>97726285
No one in my playground has ever played an interesting non-human. They don't even play to the racial stereotypes, like Ooo I'm a dwarf who likes drinking Ooo I'm a halfling who loves food. They pick races based solely on stats or some half baked character concept that falls apart 10 minutes into the first session. They could all be humans and literally nothing would change.

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>>97746949
Always miffed by the fact that these guys were robbed of their Mimicry gimmick because people wanted to play them straight.

I get that playing with a soundboard is not feasible, and something narrative like

>"[Coin rustling noise]-which is the name of my character btw-mimics the laugh of children to give his approval"

can get very old very fast, but goddamnit that was what made them cool.

I had a kenku warlock once who used his Imp to communicate (telepathically relayed to the imp, who explained in speech) and when it was REALLY NECESSARY (the imp hated it) loopholed the kenku inhability to speak by taking over the Imp with Voice of the Chain Master, which sounded lime Suave Donald Duck.

It was fun.

>>97726228

I agree, elves and dwarves don't belong in D&D.

>>97768076
You guys so desperately want to be victims.

>>97776988
more like you have no heart soul or humanity

>>97778641
It's okay fren, you don't have to be jelly, you can be reborn as white person in the next life.

>>97771487
>Small in number and in civilisational decline in many settings
>renown for their mastery of arts, craftsmanship and knowledge
>Revered and reviled in equal measure, depending on who you ask
>women are fetishised and lusted after
You might be onto something

>>97726228
Any race with inbuilt unlimited flying. They attract the most annoying players

>>97780010
They got rid off that, mostly iirc

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Fuck you, Conrasu supremacy

>>97780347
Lol. They're coming to get you, anon!

>>97726240
When did you realize it was humans?

>humans usually specialize in being "adaptable". That means they're good at everything and can do anything the other races can, and often better!
>human prodigies will be better at any other race's specialized magic, craft, or other techniques, even the ones who created and practiced them their entire lives
>even if they aren't outright better, they will be special in some other way, like "thinking outside the box" or coming up with something really obvious that nobody else did somehow
>humans die younger, so it can be so tragic when the non-human characters end up outliving them.
>oh, and they still conquered the entire world/galaxy, and are the most populous and generally successful race, making their beliefs and attitudes the standard
>and everyone thinks they're hot and totally wants to have sex with them! they can have magic hybrid babies with anyone! elves, orcs, even dragons and aliens!
>destiny and prophecy, and all the Gods except the weird racist ones love them the best, which means they're the ones destined to be the real heroes of any story
>if humans actually manage to lose, they will never actually get wiped out because it isn't possible for reasons, and they'll come back with a heroic secondwind that allows them to win
>all non-human races have a strict monoculture, every member is exactly the same, but humans have diversity, each and every one is a literal special snowflake superhero
>even if a plot didn't start as being specifically about humans, it will nosedive into a story about the perseverance and survival of mankind, or mankind saving the day for everyone else

>>97780347
>Conrasu supremacy
Why have I never heard of them before then?

>>97784927
That's the way they wanted. You know, easier to invade us and all that

>>97780347
So they made a weird looking race, what about their psychology and culture?

>>97726325
Tieflings got that Undertale syndrome.

>>97726800
>You sound like one of those faggots on /vp/ who defends gen 1 of pokemon
I have been summoned, here to slay a disgusting emufag zoomoid.
Hey retard, try looking up the Gameboy's game catalogue on wikipedia and come back with an RPG more feature complete than Pokemon Red (not RBY, just red).
>inb4 b-b-buh console ga-
Yeah dipshit compare Genshin to Clair Obscur. Fucking inbred.

>>97737255
>statistically of all the playable races across all rpgs, 100% of dog rapes (and other rapes) were performed by humans
Incorrect. Dwarves would also be in there.

>>97746546
>if your character dies during chargen, the game then becomes literally unplayable
and if you die in the game, you die in real life

>>97747161
>the coloring books
Audible kek

>>97786734
There are kids there. Those are theirs. The were having a birthday party. Don't be a faggot

>>97786739
They're like center-shot, and anon had nothing for it. He got blown the fuck out by coloring books on a folding table. That's why the kek

>>97786754
They're in the far left of the table. I'm not a fucking professional photographer. I was just knocking that assholes argument out of the park once and for all. Next time I'll post some 2e Birthright stuff. Fuck all those nogames bitches. Retarded fucks

>>97726240
>>97726228
Honestly, humans are the most powerful race in 2024 5e (I’ve never played 2014). Getting an extra Origin feat, daily Heroic Inspiration, and proficiency in a skill of your choice gives a ton of customization. The only real reason you’d pick another race if you’re trying to build a powerful character is if you wanted one with Darkvision

>>97786875
>there's no reason to ever pick a race besides minmaxing
Your brain on D&Dogshit.

>>97786908
>if you’re trying to build a powerful character
>there's no reason to ever pick a race besides minmaxing
NTA, but thats not what he said at all.

>>97786928
No not it's heavily implied that's exactly what he means. He just didn't outright say it.

>It's nighttime
>"Hurr that means the sun doesn't exist!"

Just stop posting forever

>>97779263
You've just described asian too

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>>97787677
>asian civilizations have been in decline for longer than some western civilizations have existed
Oddly enough, this makes them more similar to elves, than humans.
>but they're not small in number!
Give it few decades and that'll change.

>>97726809
He's a tourist you'd need to explain what Traveller is to him.

>>97746546
You're a retard.

The point of death during character creation (in the majority of systems that have it) is a balance system for the lifepath system - you can keep going on the lifepath and get more skills, money, gear whatever but there's a chance (usually increased the further down the path you are) that you die or are injured or otherwise get fucked (Mongoose Traveller likes to give you enemies and rivals when you mishap). If your character dies - you roll a new one, just like what happens if your character dies in play. If your character is wounded, or cursed, or hunted by the father of the noble scion he killed in an illegal due on Regina you play the game with the disadvantage (aka storyhook) that you gained in your lifepath.

Lifepath systems are the objectively superior form of character creation. Which you would know if you weren't a no-games.

>>97786642
It's mainly an ongoing philosophical debate among factions whether the cosmic balance is better served through gentle cultivation, constructive direction, or the application of corrective force.

>>97787012
I didn't imply that, idiot.
stop posting

>>97789918
Yes you did. You did and don't even see it so that makes you the retarded one

>>97789918
nta but that is clearly what he said

>>97790119
He knows. He's just being a contrarian bitch about it

>>97786685
>Tieflings got that Undertale syndrome.
I'm sorry, that what?

>>97786908
>>97787012
When someone askes if you 'have tried not playing dnd?' this is the guy asking it.
5e is still irreparable though.

>>97795609
Are you saying I'm stupid because you can just do that. I didn't even imply that

>>97796714
I'm saying you are stupid and illiterate. The last bit isn't something you said or implied but I don't want anyone to think I'm defending 5e.

>>97796768
Illiterate, why? I didn't say anything even remotely controversial

>>97787858
>but they're not small in number!
Oh yeah, I guess when I read that part my mind went immediately to the japanese and koreans only.

>>97797405
Not even China? Surprising.