How do you make Tyranids interesting? Even Necrons eventually were made to have personalities, but Tyranids are all just bugs who have no motive except to consume, and they can't be reasoned with.
Vore
>>97731460They are interesting. You're not. There nothing to be done.
>>97731467Why does warhammer not have enough Vore art? It’s crazy to me
>>97731478I got this tries to make sense of the death guard stomachs
Can you weridos not ruin my thread please
>>97731460Define interesting
>>97731467lol what did she go through you think? Did she get chewed or digested
>>97731460Were you interested in dinosaurs as a kid?That's the appeal
>>97731467>>97731491Which Tyranids would it suck to get eaten by?
>>97731498Depends on it, majority of the small ones a painful yet quick death the other larger ones? Are definitely sallow slow digestion types
>>97731486I’d rather let the Vorefags speak who are true nid fans than a concern troll thread that always suggests making a Kerrigan styled tyranid character
>>97731526Why do you think that’s what OP wanted to do?
>>97731543Bro I know the intentions these Tyranids are boring threads devolve into the same shit all the time might as well hijack it
>>97731543It’s a concern troll thread. Haven’t had this style in a bit but yes it’ll have some dumbass say that Tyranids need to have a Queen of blades type infected character to lead the nids
You people are insane
>>97731460By placing emphasis on the sorts of campfire stories and legends that would stem from fighting them. Tyranids like Old One Eye aren't a character by themselves, but a Carnifex with a missing eye that wouldn't die makes a great horror story. And then whenever a battle happens and a Carnifex happens to lose an eye again, the legend is 'reborn'.They turn into a mirror of who they're fighting, with people attributing malice and intent to the hivemind that isn't really there.
People who say the nids arent interesting are so retarded, im not even a major nidfag but I really like those subtle designs to the newer tyranids they introduce. Tyrant Guard are from eating space marines so much, Zoanthorpes are shaped like eldar helmets, and shit even the new Term/Horm gaunts are very pig faced now due to eating so much orks. I predict in the futre we will get a new tau DNA based nids
>>97731460Do you need some BL novel starring John Hivemind to consider the Nids interesting? It's the space bugs faction, what did you fucking expect?
>>97731460Tyranids are plenty interesting. Genestealer cults are one of the coolest things in the setting, and--along with Chaos and Tau--one of the factions that actually infiltrate/communicate with the Imperium as part of their M.O. They're more interactive than a lot of stuff in the setting, you don't need to give the bugs personalities.
>>97731460Make new Hive Fleets, duh.
I still don't understand why Genestealers have their own army. They're like the less interesting cousins of Tyranids, and they shouldn't even be able to field large armies in the first place. It should have been the wood elves if anything.
>>97731481it's shitwhy do vorefags want the person being eaten to just kind of.... not care. It's only good when she's screaming and in terror as her body is digested.
>>97731592they want sexy bug ladies like in starcraft.
>>97731631Since was wizards making warhammer art?
>>97731460I don't mind the standard flesh and purple scheme, but I think I'd like nids more if they were portrayed as more colorful. Like their kill team box
they made them interesting in the 00s by implying they were absorbing races in the galaxy.Then making their own versions eg Tyranid marines.They should return to this
>>97731592>I really like those subtle designs to the newer tyranids they introduce. Tyrant Guard are from eating space marines so much, Zoanthorpes are shaped like eldar helmets,Those are details from the *older* models and they aren't present in the newer ones.
>>97731889>>97731899Which model was it that literally had an ork face? I thought it looked really ugly and out of place until I learned about the genestealing thing, then I thought it was just a little ugly
>>97731913biovore, also they turned the orks spore reproduction into an artillery system.
another thing i found interesting about nids is of you go further back in the lore. The analogy to their bio tech being like real tech gets more obvious the deeper you go into the hive fleet.They have actual bio computers, bio factories, creating bio guns, bio armour and soldiers. They have their own R&D departments doing research into better bio-tech.Really felt like an entire civilisation that exchanged inorganic tech for bio-tech.
>>97731869One of the bajillion M:tG elseworlds crossovers was 40k, so we got a few bits of WotC Warhammer art. I am not a fan of the IP crossovers at all but the art is cool.
>>97731987Genestealers are the most whatever faction. The only faction whose goal is to get itself destroyed by another faction. They shouldn't even be separate from Tyranids.
>>97731703>they want sexy bug ladies like in starcraft.And you can't use Genestealers, why?
>>97732001>>97731677Here is your (You), genestealers have been a faction since rogue trader and the only change is that they became folded into tyranids as an alien cult.>only to be destroyedWow you mean like chaos cults?
>>97732001whats not to like they are a death cult sub faction of the Tyranids worshipping the fact the great devourer will eat everything Their goal is to undermine other civilisations and soften them up for invasion.Actually the Tau do something similar
>>97731460Tyranid primarchs
>>97732038I'm fine with them as a lore thing, but why are they even capable of fielding gigantic armies that can challenge real armies? They just shouldn't have units, or they should just all be Imperial Guard vehicles they stole. Besides which, their goal is just to get eaten by bugs, which makes them yet another pointlessly evil faction that can't be reasoned with.
>>97732064they subvert an entire planet including their governance, they are basically just another variation of traitor. The other major one being Chaos traitor aka heretic. But traitor and heretic are synonymous terns in the Imperium.Even a regular traitor planet are heretics
>>97732064>why are they even capable of fielding gigantic armies that can challenge real armies? fwiw, neutralizing planetary defense forces is literally their whole job. They do this in all sorts of ways; obviously infiltrating the government and converting the population into a cult of easily-consumed sheep is preferable, but genestealer cults absolutely do wage actual wars against planetary governments or imperial guard stations if their cover gets blown or if they've reached a point where they feel it's a safe bet. Putting together an honest-to-god literal army comprised variously of hybrid warriors, mind-controlled or converted human soldiers, and later-generation spies and equipping them with either stolen imperial military tech or covertly manufactured wargear is part and parcel of running a genestealer cult. Cult of the Spiral Dawn has a pretty spectacular genestealer cult v. guard battle at the end.Also I feel like it's not very fair to ding tyranids and genestealer cults separately as pure evil factions, considering they're both really the same faction. But I get it if that's not your thing.
>>97732130>Also I feel like it's not very fair to ding tyranids and genestealer cults separately as pure evil factions, considering they're both really the same faction. But I get it if that's not your thing.Yeah, but that's sort of the thing, even Necrons eventually got characters with unique personalities who can be interacted with and reasoned with, but the Genestealers don't even have that. They end up being like a variation of Chaos, where they're all hopelessly insane and just want to destroy everything.
>>97732232why does every faction need to be comic book characters,Honestly they fucked up with the necrons hard.They should have been more like space vampire counts
>>97732064I seriously wonder sometimes if people like you genuinely just don't have an imagination.
>>97731460It has been done many times already, with mixed success. Kerrigan and cerebrates from Starcraft, phyriexian praetors from mtg etc. - leader-type charcters with a bigger degree of individuality.
>>97732001My issue with gsc is that they don't really make sense fighting anyone other than imperial factions. And even then, they're supposed to stay hidden and only rise the fuck up and blitz the planet when they have an overwhelming advantage in numbers.They don't leave their planet and they infiltrate specifically human populations so it doesn't really make much sense for xenos to fight them (other than orks landing on a planet that's been already taken over to have some fun). Marines, Sisters etc. happening to be present on a planet during the revolution is extremely convenient and after the planet has been conquered they'd just exterminatus their asses.
>>97731460It's fine to have one big faceless "eldritch" hivemind horror thing. Two was pushing it though, which is why Necrons were fixed after being turned into midcrons (metal tyranids).
>>97732914how were Necrons like the Tyranids. They ruined the Necrons, should have kept them as the mysterious horrors they were. Legions of silent robots led by cold emotionless lords.
>>97732907you are making the mistake i see in multiple threads all the time for years.Just because GW doesn't focus on something doesnt mean it doesnt exist in the setting.Genestealer orks, Tau, eldar etc all exist
>>97732925You can still do this.
>>97732928Sure. I admit, I focus on the faction as it is presented on the tabletop, I won't deny. The models are clearly human-genestealer hybrids, they use human equipment, human vehicles etc.
>>97731460Tyranids are already interesting. They do not need personalities. Fuck off.
>>97732010>they reboot genestealers as mixed-gender units and the women look like this
>>97732939Thats what i plan to do if i ever pick up some crons>>97732949GW leaves it open as a modelling opportunity for kitbashing and conversionsBut this has led to people thinking they don't exist and therefore its not officially within the rules/lore to field them. Which further leads to less people not wanting to try it.
>>97732970less people wanting to try it* derp
>>97731543Nobody gives a shit about what OP "wanted" to do.
>>97731597>Do you need some BL novelNo, nids are very much interested in breeding, no homo.
>>97731562>>97731558Huh, you guys were right on the money.
They just have to look cool. That's it
>>97732928>Genestealer orks, Tau, eldar etc all existThey literally don't. Tau root them out with vastly greater efficiency, Eldar are psykers with a vested interest in keeping a close eye on each other for signs of corruption (there was one case in one book and they were intentionally infecting themselves) and Orks immediately notice something wrong with Genestealer Orks.
>>97733448Why are the Tau good at rooting them out?
>>97731460You are a braindead retarded secondary, looking at it from an incorrect, braindead retarded perspective."Oldcrons" were boring, one note faction. Just assemble those handful of units as per instructions and paint in metallic colors. Slop army ill suited for a creative hobby. Elaborating on how much will and mind necron leaders retained had fuckall to do with some character/story faggotry, it was done to make them better suited to the hobby.Nids have no such issues because they already are extremely hobby friendly with huge potential for customization. On top of being extremely popular.
>>97731460>bugs who have no motive except to consume, and they can't be reasoned with.thats cool as is, retard
>>97734124Advanced medicine and healthcare systemKroot can sniff them out
>>97732001They're like the Imperial Guard of the Tyranids, they exist to job until the real factions arrive. Hell they even get to use Guard units
>>97734777I think what's interesting is that they're a high advanced hive mind that is 100% aware of what its doing. They aren't even eating people, just absorbing their biomass into their mobile environment ships. The Tyranid hive mind is playing the long game of organic life, trying to give itself as much lifespan as possible to outlive entropy. They're Dark Forest aliens
>>97734124Plot armor. No really, as soon Tau plot armor is lost Genestealer cult tear Tau a new asshole.After all they just need to infect an Ethereal as the short lore blurb tell us.Remember proper GSC hybrids can't be tell apart from regular humans and the only thing fishy about them is they are more healthy than the general population. The bald and forehead ridges are a model artistic liberty than a lore thing. Like marines not carrying ammunition into battle
>>97734124The Tau are a very efficient and cohesive Empire, while the Imperium doesn't really know how many planets it has.
>>97733448>>97732928
>>97735179
>>97735183
>>97735186
>>97733082Yeah I hate being right, 4chan is just reruns nowadays
>>97733448Craftworld eldar could get infested, the issue is the fucker take too long to breed and they really can't hide inside a craftworld. Is not that genestealer can't do it, but the conditions in a craftworld are not exactly easy for a cult to form. On an exodite world on the other hand it could happen, but they could get fucked by the local fauna and flora. something that happens to GSC cult in human death worlds tooIf I recall correctly regarding orks usually the storm boys aka the ork youth are the best bet for a cult to form since young orks in their teenage angsty phase tend to rebel by being an organize and functional military. Reason why the start LARPing as the Imperial Guard.Tau they just need to grab the Ethereal cast of a planet or the Earth Cast get infect because they start poking the alien ovipositor
>>97735179Are there even enough dispossessed people in the Tau Empire to want to rebel in the first place?
>>97735219That guy made cool conversions, so there must be enough.
>>97735219Maybe?
>>97735219Its GSC, things like acolytes, neophytes or aberrants are not humans or tau, but Tyranids hybrids LARPing as such.Brood Brothers or cultist are the general population that join the cult. This was done due to idea of rebellion, literal Umbrella corporation (Twisted Helix), Mind control, propaganda, or some other method.
>>97735244
>>97735254This one looks like Orks looting Nid bodies and some Mad Dok used Tyranid parts to replace the missing ork bits than Ork-Genestealer hybrids.Cool non the less.
>>97735262Makes sense! It really looks like armor and body parts attached.
>>97732010>The Giger estate has declined to pursue legal action, after commenting "Nice."
>>97732130I've been told that Genestealers are The Alien by that one director. While Nidz are Aliens by the other one, who also made Avatar.
>>97732907>don't really make sense fighting anyoneSome cults have mini Empires and actively conquer new territories.The thing is GW made GSC miniature style from a boardgame set that was suppose to be a miner revolution and we are stuck with the miner themes for them.Same shit happen with Sisters of Battle, Our Martyr Lady are not supposed to be the default or the norm. We should be seeing a bunch of spinoff Sisters according to the variants of the Imperial Cult. Emperor as a Sun God for example or some weird shamanistic saint crap in more frontier worlds.
>>97735262Or some orkz prepping for a kunning ambush.
>>97735331In other words we should have GSC as diverse as the old guard regiments, but instead of just Cadians and Krieg we only have miners.Shit sucks
>>97733448>be tautist from reddit>straight up lieThe Tau were literally trying to make a genestealer ethereal hybrid and LET entire worlds be infested by genestealer tau hybrids on purpose.Its mentioned in a novel and even the codexes. They allowed a Tau greater good genestealer cult to appear. And took it at face value.You cant trust a thing a tautist from reddit saysOrks have had entire waaaghs on space hulks infested by genestealer ork hybrids.As one battle had a Rok land in a battle and thousands of purple orks came out of it.Seriously r/40klore has done more harm to this fandom than even GW. fuck off!
>>97731460Trying to humanize tyranids so they can engage in marvelslop like the nucrons are, completely misses the point, you can't rotate the fucking apple retard
>>97731460They already are interesting. Not every faction needs to be personable and humanized to be interesting
>>97733082We've sang this song before anon. They were right on the money because they've seen this thread play out dozens of times.
>>97731460Fuck off and go die in fire.
>>97731491Tyranids are the least endo friendly fucks, they can't symbiosis for shit. No redeeming qualities to their existence, purge with plasma on sight.And also how do you even give tyranids variation? Starcraft did with the Zerg but the Zerg already had lore built in on the "delegated hive" approach while tyranids seem to be completely unified with any apparent infighting just being a fitness algorithm of sorts. Everyone allies whenever tyranids come around, it is kinda inflexible.
>>97740840Like tyranids are neat in how they are more a disaster than an organized faction but they're still playable. But I really think the lore on them gets a bit over the top when we are told they devour a thousand galaxies but get techmogged by the necrons easily and there are likely lots of inorganic civs in the universe or comparable situations to the ctan elsewhere. Maybe it is more they spread across a thousand galaxies with mixed results on if they did fully consume it or get staved off and branched elsewhere or whatever I recall another lore thing saying they heard orks out there. Just lots of fluffing going on with anything to do with stuff outside the galaxy itself.
>>97731460Give them tits. I'd want to fuck them either way but tits bring mass appeal
>>97731697Maybe she's into it
>>97731460Tyranids are by far the coolest and most interesting faction thoeverhowbiet? When my tabletop friend first sold me on warhammer 40k they sounded infinitely more interesting than the human factions.
>>97731460>the genostealers can be hybrids of anything>limitless possibilities>anon has no imagination>this is boringbrainrot
>>97742649Nah, they don't scream or beg since digestion vore is dumb and lame. "oh they just wanted me for nutrients. Whatever." all they think so they don't even give them the pleasure of squirming. Just quiet prayer to the emperor and dying of boredom before the acid gets to them.
>>97742661Oh shit, a real live femanon (female), I thought they were a myth.
>>97731460Giving them personalities doesn't make them interesting.
>>97747995Technically it would be suffocation/drowning but whatever. Tyranids are just a mindless consuming swarm abomination to purge from existence and that is all they deserve. I hate them more than the IoM hates them.They are such a shitty, loathsome ass cancer on the cosmos as is, their hive swarm has to steal genes to make shitty knockoff slop hybrids of true beings of the cosmos. Their kind is a mockery of the whole concept of evolution and transcension, just loathsome bugs to crush with unmitigated prejudice en masse. I don't care if they have feelings or are capable of diplomacy. They made clear what they are, and that is a glorified pestilence upon the universe to purge wherever they dare show themselves.
>>97748019The zerg had personalities and it did nothing for them. Lame ass centralized hivemind societies just deserve the boot and nothing more. They are blighters and having personalities does not change that they are nothing but blight upon the universe. They have no redeemable qualities, any idiot gooner who thinks that having tits changes that only deserves death for thinking that. Finding ways to torture tyranids to death and make them feel suffering, genuine suffering for once in their odious span of being "living" beings in this universe even, feels wasted on their cancer-like outlook. Crush them. Crush them until nothing remains.
I actually cannot comprehend liking tyranids. Maybe you just like being murder monsters so that's a reason to play them but their designs look so fucking same-y, like a retarded version of the xenomorph trying too hard.
>>97733082Blizzcucks are the same wherever they go.
So no, there is no way to make tyranids interesting. GW should just mass murder them from the fucking board through whatever way they can bullshit and come up with a more interesting swarm faction.
>>97748059They are the kind of downbad defectives who think Jim Raynor was anything but a treacherous weasel.
>>97748086>The fuck are they suppose to do?!Die.
>>97731460Tyranids are probably the dumbest thing in 40k, and that means something because 40k has no shortage of dumb shit.
>>97732239>the Egyptian skeleton faction should have taken inspiration from the vampire counts and not the tomb kings?
>>97731697depends on the vorefag, many like the sadism aspect, so enjoy kicking and screaming in their art, others only like the closeness aspect, and exclusively draw/consume "safe" vore where nobody actually gets hurt.It's a spectrum.
>>97748720
>>97748060>just remove 3rd most popular army in the game, because it irks my secondary ass that they don't have marvelslop characters
>>97749192HmmmSo that is an unrealistic deal.Still unsure what their appeal is, guess they're easy to pick up and play as? I dunno their sets looked like a rip off to me.
>>97749192The gap between spess mareens and dworfs is less than I thought would be.
>>97749356keep in mind that dark angels, blood angels, and space wolves are counted separately. The total count for (loyalist) space marines is 58472, it's a bit over 7x the dorf count.
>>97749363You're right, in that case, the ratio is closer to what I expected. Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines together make up for about ~58% of all games.
>>97731460Tyranids should always have been operating in splinter fleets, the massive tide of nids was always a total game breaker with no solution so they had to nerf nids to explain why they don't just eat everything especially with the time skip. Separate fleets like organisms independently evolving and having competition for resources like ant colonies are much more interesting.
>>97731697Even scatfags look down on you
>>97731562>>97731558Insane we actually still have smart users on this board who call out this shit but bad threads still survive
>>97750922Man I have been in an echo chamber where you are called a lunatic for not liking people being melted alive more than I realize.
>>97750228>Splinter fleets of Tyranids based on all the different Vore types
>>97731460> Even Necrons eventually were made to have personalities, but Tyranids are all just bugs who have no motive except to consume, and they can't be reasoned with.Yeah, that’s the point. Tyranids aren’t like other factions. They are not an adversary, they are a natural disaster. A natural disaster that needs excessive violence to deal with. And like a natural disaster, oftentimes the answer is that you can’t truly stop it, just survive it, do whatever damage control you can, and hope to be able to pick up the pieces after.
>>97748761why do you have this shit saved
>>97752048Because it is the skeleton key for understanding vore
You don’t. They’re essentially an NPC army. They should be turned into a scripted enemy to play against in a group of 2-4 in a 40K spinoff called “Xenos Terror” or some goofy shit like that. Their only presence in 40K should be limited to use with Genestealer Cults.
>>97752692The skaven do that niche so much better
>>97735287>It's what he would have wanted.
>>97752692Oh, no. It's retarded.
>>97752698Skaven have loads of personality
>>97736741>>97749192>everything I don’t like is marvelslopThis ideology is the ultimate brainrot.
>>97736741>>97749192>nucrons are more popular ever since they were upgraded from midcronsTruly the metal tyranid approach was holding them back. TrazynCHADS rule supreme.
>>97731987Unrelated question, but what happens when you isolate a Cult magos by keeping psychic blanks nearby?
>>97753269>Necrons have the highest win rate and are second only to the space marines in raw popularity Fucking skelechads
>>97753160Tyranids having more personality is hard. Doing it through genestealers just makes them squidface chaos, doing it through hive lords just makes them biological necron. What niche is even left?
>>97753277Illithids in space as a tyranid subfaction seems to be a thing with the magos?
>>97751200Being a vorefag is still better than being one those faggots that jerk off to irl gore. At least our shit isn't real.
>>97731460I would say make each Tendril have their own unique personality where they are actively competiting against each other in their desired strategies and stick to them even though it doesn't always work willing to use the "with a hammer, everything is a nail" approach to preserve it's own ego.This should naturally filter down to having more distinct physical appearances and more overtly different combat doctrines between the Tendrils where you can have some of the tendrils actively employing GSCs while others are against it.
Do tyranids even have a code
>>97731473>no uGo back
>>97732064It's a skirmish level game, the armies don't have to be huge. A warhammer army is like fifty guys? Plus they have mutations and shit that make them stronger.
>>97749192>tourneyfag statsBesides marines being at the top, pretty much all of these numbers are going to change with the meta
>>97753706I've been around those communities enough to know they very much do fap to RL animal feeding like the autistic commodus fuckers they are
>>97748053...Anonymous03/21/26(Sat)21:07:46 No.97748053>I actually cannot comprehend liking space marines. Maybe you just like being space knights so that's a reason to play them but their designs look so fucking same-y, like a retarded version of doomguy trying too hard.This is my honest to god opinion. Not even a nidder, but painting one blue with a beak and one green with a hood doesn't make them look that different chaos gets a pass though, they look pretty cool, sad they get hate for being BL's pet project. 75% of the silhouettes look the same, shits just bad design.Nid designs > space marine designsSM lore > nid loreAnd then there are orks, the best of both worlds :-)
>>97754138yeah trueOrks just sorta the best overall. Lots of variation with em.
>>97754138Marine work great when they are support for Imperial Guard of Sisters of Battle.Random Terminator or Deathwatch unit is fun to use. Hell Lost and the damned in 3rd had this with random marine units.
>>97731460Each hive fleet has a norn empress which is a super norn queen that has a personality and can speakThe hive mind has a physical form which is a giant brain monsterthere you go
>>97755672Years ago GW included a few lore snippets about the Tyranids building a huge, planet sized organism somewhere.Instead of just stripping a planets bare, they started moving more and more biomass towards it and builkdign fuckhuge bio structures.I forgot most of the details, but ti was probably one of those 'lmao let's just fil the galaxy map with random shit' things.
>>97731460>Tyranids are all just bugs who have no motive except to consume, and they can't be reasoned with.No wonder female players identify with them.
>>97755672This but instead of giant brain monsters make them hot giant women.
>>97732925There was no mystery, mother fucker. We knew what their goal was, who their gods were, what they did, how they did it and when they came about into existence. We knew about the War in Heaven, about why they went to sleep, why they made the Pariahs, why there are only four C'tan left, which was why Necrons still fought each other occasionally, and what Necrons were right down to the existence of Destroyers and Flayed Ones.For God's sake, read through the actual fucking codex.
>>97756388>why they made the Pariahselaborate
>>97756506Fuck off, ND.
>>97735179>>97735183>>97735186screw 40k canon with an industrial drill, this conversions are kino>>97735262>This one looks like Orks looting Nid bodies and some Mad Dok used Tyranid parts to replace the missing ork bitsboth options are perfectly possible and fine. if DEldar can get tyranid grafts then orks can do it too
>>97756580Even GSC loot tyranids. There is a cult that goes hunting for nid "eggs" left over in asteroids or anywhere the nids had pass and grab them.Nid looting is a good old 40k tradition
>>97731460Give each Hive Fleet their own Broodmind with its own personality instead of simply being led by united Hive Mind.The actual Hive Mind should instead be nebulous entity which can only show up as a small sliver of itself since number of Tyranids in the galaxy is far too small and they lack sufficient biological hardware to host it for more than few seconds. It should be their big fuck you option to whomever they are fighting if their target is too dangerous for Hive Fleet. Something like Hive Fleet sacrificing huge amount of resources to summon Hive Mind's “personal” attention for a split second to permanently kill large amount of Greater Daemons or anything among those lines.Additionally, integrate GSC more into proper Tyranid plans, replace forehead ridge with headcrests. GW already have bits of lore where Hive Fleets sometimes leave GSC worlds alone. Treatment GSC get could depend on each Hive Fleet. From being eaten upon meeting to being used as yet another tool and auxiliary for Hive Fleet and emergency ration stations. Genestealer Patriarchs having proper personalities to allow them to be main character in books would also fit well with above and make Tyranids more fitting to have books where they are protagonists or have their victories acknowledged by large part of lore. As of now they are mostly existing as NPCs to increase kill counts of space marines when Imperium need easy victories and Chaos isn't allowed to lose.
>>97736741Would it really be that bad? Right now it's the major factor that's hamstringing them as a faction that could be a fan favorite. Just so what necrons did and say that old-nids are still sorta there if you squint to satisfy the grognards
>>97756852>Right now it's the major factor that's hamstringing them as a factionNo matter how much you humanize the nonhuman factions they will always be significantly less popular than the Good humans in blue colour armour. Not everything has to be some optimized marketing popularity contest won by blending everything into the same vapid goop of the most mass marketable tropes.
>>97755479Completely agree. A termi, couple squads of tacs and devs surrounded by sisters or guard looks much cooler.I was being a bit hyperbolic about the most popular faction because an anon was attacking the tyranids. The fucking tyranids for looking too similar.Tyranids look sick, and they may be similar to Giver concepts but Giver concepts look awesome. Its like complaining if Norsca started looking like Frazetta art. Oh no, things took inspiration from badass art, that would suck
>>97757035>autocorrected Giger twiceTime to kys myself
>>97757035I was being hyperbolic there too since my brain just hates them with an autistic compulsion like it does to a several other things. Maybe it is that stupid "grrr look at me im monster" face they all make, cant tell. Or maybe it is their "oh ho hi we can make all the comms go oh no" and yet they job because they are at the end of the day a slop horde to grind up in the slaughterhouse and nothing more. Contrived as shit powers are everywhere like the necrons just having a device that can blow up all the stars in the galaxy for whatever fucking reason. The tyranids are space cancer either way and their stupid squidface genestealers only look good as a decapitated head on a pike.
>We need anthro booby tyranid >We need to understand she just was influenced by the hive to mass murder than planet full of civilians so it's bad to kill her>The bugs aren't evil, Reddit said it is just propaganda and the actual bugs are peace lovers who only ate 50 galaxies because it is a misunderstanding and people shouldn't have kept shooting them when they were eating their family members>Also what if she's important to solving chaos? We have to save her, I can fix her!
>>97757241Yeah I'm attacking the whole archetype at this point in ways that have nothing to do with tyranids but I'm so fucking sick of people trying to make them sympathetic. The buggers didn't send out a diplomatic envoy or anything they just fucking went in killing people en masse and we're at fault for treating them as a threat to our existence? Fuck off. Just kindly fuck the fuck off.
Tyranids are already as interesting as possible which is why I have so fucking many of then and all your stupid ideas would make them worse.
>>97757260Whenever the fuck has this sort of alien showed any caution in first contact? They didn't in starship troopers, they didn't in ender's game, they didn't in StarCraft and they sure as fuck didn't in warhammer 40K. Yeah such a misunderstanding, killing people who stumbled on your hive and throwing rocks at their home world. So these people trying to give them personalities do so because they want to make them sympathetic, that is my belief about their motive. Differentiation with the tyranids should as another anon suggested, be more like different strains of bacteria or virus than anything approaching a fuedal biotech society. They're abominations. Let them be abominations if that is the point of their existence in this setting. Not every monster needs a sympathy arc and the tyranids deserve zero sympathy. They are worse than any fascist of communist, worse than any theocracy, worse than any creature just doing what they do to survive. They are cosmic fucking cancer and the only cure to that is fucking killing them.
>>97757446Genestealers are human zoats.
>>97757241I hate SC2 story so much.It would be more salvageable if it was protoss, terran and then zerg.
>>97756426Pariahs were made to serve as a direct replacement to the Necrons themselves, having been seeded into the human population. In the C'tan's new order, they would serve as the herders of the biological masses and as weapons against the powers of the Warp.
>>97757260>The buggers didn't send out a diplomatic envoy or anything
>>97757493I hated the end of the wings of liberty campaign so much I didn't buy any of the later parts, so my experience with it is limited by that but everything I read and watched about it made it pretty clear that I made the right decision as I would have fucking hated a campaign where you re-empower Kerrigan and then they make her a chosen one too. Blizzard writers also always take agency from their characters to contrive sympathy for them so that it is never in the right to kill them for their actions they chose to do as "well actually eviler guy was mind controlling them into doing it" happens to always be the case with their "evil lady" characters. It's so fucking lame.
>>97757539Hmmm. So there's variation right there. But they are basically just extra xeno genestealers from what I can tell.
>>97757515Yeah, you mean this bit. There's a significant difference between gestural worldbuilding through unreliable narrators like visions of the future from a race who's entire theme is making shit prophecies, and explicit breakdowns of various nucron's breakfast habits.
>>97757672>from what I can tell.Someone hasn't read Space Marine.
>>97757102I feel like admitting you're being hyperbolic and then going back to judging the faction by it's least cool lore is some nigger shit. You're argument is basically >they should win, but GW wanted to keep making the game so they job now>plus they're uglyThey job for the reason everyone jobs. Cause its a fucking tabletop game. No one can win, not 'multiversal' chaos, not the orks that can never be scrubbing from a world once landed, not the necrons who already won and finished all of science, and not the extragalactic threat with a gajillion times more mass to work with. That's the game, if someone wins its over, so no one wins.And yeah they're ugly, get over it. Some people like the idea of function over form, or the imperfections that come with scars and assymetry and acute lines. Biotech and Giger designs and arthropod and kaiju inspiration.Your points aren't tyranid specific, you just got raped in a few games and are butthurt.That's fine, but this is 4chan. So expect people to laugh at your butthurt
>>97753815There was the brief period where the Norn Queens had a bit more prominence. Dictating the course of a hive fleet's evolution, and when two hive fleet tendrils fought it was the Norn Queens basically testing to see whose army list was better.
>>97731460>tyranids aren't interesting because don't have a garbage dindu nuffin tragic backstory justifying them flaying children and boiling them in a cauldronyou are seriously low IQ to think tyranids would be more interesting by humanizing them
I would just steal stuff from the Dark Horse Aliens comics.
>>97758173Yes I know they ape giger and xenomorphs like every 90's scifi thing did. I'm aware. "but it's tabletop game" no shit it's a tabletop game lil' niblet we know, everyone knows."We just want to eat" aww poor guy, tell us what did you want to eat again? Was it a salad? Some starlifting? A nebula of cotton candy?
>>97757102Holy shit you are one retarded nigger>dey have dum powers but job anyways! That's everyone, retard. Necrons have magic anti-warp tech yet can still be possessed by chaos if they technology too hard. Chaos runs on poorly misunderstood Lovecraft flavored AHHHHH IS THAT THREE CIRCLES ARRANGED IN A TRIANGLE?! AHHHH HELP ME NIGGERQUISITOR I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE rules but also you can just fucking shoot it to death. Hell, Chaos blew up Cadia and split the fucking galaxy in half yet they've done less tangible, credible damage to the Imperium than a handful of orks dicking about grinding out EXP on a single planet.>i dun liek der faces!Cool, you have shit taste. I don't see why that's my problem. >>97758173>you just got raped in a few games and are butthurt.You give him too much credit. He's probably a nomodels still assmad that space marines lost that dumb starter edition contest back at the start of 10e
>>97758575>yet can still be possessed by chaos if they technology too hard.Which necrons did that?
>>97758775Pariah Nexus. Necrons and Admech science'd at each other too hard and it summoned Vashtorr, who immediately started possessing the Nexus, hijacking Warriors, and corrupting nearby Votann Ironkin in a vain attempt to make the stunty faggots relevant
>>97731460GIANT TITS, HUGE PEENS
>>97758833lol but also sadness
>>97758575>Chaos blew up Cadia and split the fucking galaxy in half yet they've done less tangible, credible damage to the Imperium than a handful of orks dicking about grinding out EXP on a single planet.This one is actually hilariously insulting to Chaosfags and Imperiumfags alike. Chaos blows up Cadia and by doing so have somehow made Cadians 100x more populous than they were before, yet a handful of orks dicking about in a planetary siege so unserious that their main warboss keeps fucking off to do sidequests on the other side of the galaxy in the middle of it is enough to effectively wipe out the Armageddon Steel Legion from existence.Come to think of it, orks also managed to completely eliminate a founding chapter as well. What the fuck is Chaos even DOING?
>>97758575Tyranids iz bugz to krush
>>97758942If 40k didn't have to chug on until it stopped making money, the whole galaxy would just get eaten and then the story would be nids getting a really violent yeast infection on the way to Ursa major 3 and the DracosHmm... That actually sounds badass>>97759070Yo, dis meet is talkin? Somody git de krumpin hamma
>>97732239No, they should have been space Nyarlathotep + minions, but they fucked that up.
>>97732064>>97732130>>97735317GSC should have been more Lovecraftian, I don't care if it's played out, you think "fight the power" isn't?>>97756580>screw 40k canon with an industrial drill, this conversions are kinoTau GSC are canon, there are some in The Greater Evil. They don't infiltrate Tau as well but I'm sure it happens once in a while.
>>97759337Wrong. If 40k was allowed to reach a "true" ending it would've just been Octarius spiraling oit of control to consume the entire galaxy. Maybe you get some epilogue set in the year 60K of some poor bastards from the Andromeda galaxy trying their first attempt at intergalactic travel and finding out about the great Green n Purple Maelstrom that now knows where they live.>>97761112>GSC should have been more LovecraftianThey're already peak Lovecraft, retard. How is "AHHHH A MIXED RACE LABORER HELP ME INQUISITOR KRYPTMAN I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE" not the most Lovecraftian execution of GSC possible?
>>97761905No see that's babby's first Lovecraft.They're a secret, blasphemous cult that worships horrible, alien gods, and those gods answer. Not every cultist is a hybrid, until the later generations they are just as likely to have received the Genestealer's Kiss or been brainwashed by its psychic might. They know the Emperor has four arms but they don't know why they know. And then they find the cult and its apocalyptic prophecies of salvation, brought by the star children that they do not understand but know they must prepare a way for. Because they are children of the star children themselves.There's certainly an Innsmouth element but I would argue there's just as much Shub-Niggurath.
>>97758942>Failbaddon opens the great rift>now the Emperor is so juiced up he can casually assault Chaos Gods and they cant do shit about it I would be worried if I was a chaos sister.
>>97764070There is a difference between the human cultist and the hybrids in the genestealer cults.Human cultist drank the kool aid and are there willing or due to some other shenanigan like mind control. Hybrids are Tyranids LARPing as humans with different degrees of success as passing as humans.The issue is that GW forgets that hybrids are tyranids LARPing and confuse them with regular humans.
>>97731697I asked a vorefag this very same question on /r9k/ many years ago.The tl;dr is that it's more of a domination kink. They don't think about the mechanical or chemical aspects of it, just enveloping another person.I don't get it.
>>97764163The problem is we only get hybrids on the battlefield so they have to get fleshed out a little. Considering they *are* part human it isn't unbelievable that they're sentient, just subservient to the hive.Regular human cultists are just totally ignored because by the time the GSC are a relevant threat, the humanoid component of the cult is filled with neophytes instead.
>>97764231Contradiction caused by internet fandom gaslighting about vore as one kink. If 3x the amount of people had vore as a fetish it would balkanize hard.
>>97761905Have you seen the ~7th edition maps of the fleet splinters coming in (fuck, I don't have it saved and can't find it. I guess that should just be unreliable narrator since its literally a pic taken from outside the galaxy)? They have more mass than the milky way, even in more modern art they're coming from multiple directions.Octi is a beast, and would win without the nids coming in but IDK if my boi can fight a force 1e30 times bigger than him. I'd love first row tickets to watch him try though
>>97764231But there are subsets where they do things like dissolve in stomach acid no?
>>97766265>subsetsit's the most common thing that happens. If they say it's a small minority, they are doing vore taqiyya. Do not let them deceive you.
>>97754031those aren't tourneyfag statsIt's a popular app used by everyone, even during casual games in a garage
>>97731460>Tyranids are all just bugs who have no motive except to consume, and they can't be reasoned with.And that's perfectly fine
>>97731889>they made them interesting in the 00s by implying they were absorbing races in the galaxy.So it's literally Zergs. Imagine ripping off from your own ripoff.
>>97735262They're reverse genestealers, i.e. orkz infiltrating a genestealers hive. Da jeenstealerz.
>>97765697In theory "Brood Brothers" should be regular humans, but for some reason turn them into hybrid Imperial Guard units which in theory should just be Neophytes, like they used to be in older codex.I mean during 7th Neophyte squad used to have heavy weapon squads for fuck sake.
>>97770871It's not exactly new, Biovores was supposed to be made out of orks, Zoanthropes from Eldar and the new Hive Guards from Marines.Biovores where clearly orks in looks and with the spore theme and zoan had the psyker bullshit too. It was there from at least second edition.
>>97771310Like the Great Devourer, shrimplification comes for us all.
>>97771403I'm surprised the Neophytes still have mining laser, seismic, heavy stubber, webber, gl and flamers and not just mining weapons and neophyte special weapons like everything else. They the squad leaders lost their pistol and melee options and are shrimple, but for some fucking reason their weapons are this super annoying thing to shoot in 10th.
>>97771403AAAAHHHHH THE SHRIMPPP IM GOING INSANE CHAOSMAN SAVE MEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>>97731481Based Death Guard
For a species that’s built around adaptations and shit they sure do all look the fucking same.
>>97785057Thats adaptations. They found the perfect bodyform to fullfill every task and survive any enviroment.Besides thats why you have classes.
