Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>97725289
If a CYOA has no images, it is not a CYOA
LOTM discussion dies and cyoag dies with it. This is the future shitposters want
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxR5CDFOxGsDOXVXX0l1QlFQSmM?resourcekey=0-m3Sgz0KfXboCE4P9KMHZ4Ahttps://imgchest.com/p/dl7p68mg34o
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>>97733715Lord of the Mysteries.
>>97733682We can always bring back OR discussion, on how 0^0 did nothing wrong and how everyone should join the Ecumene.
>>977337410^0 vs Klein?
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I claim this thread in the name of True Sons, for the benefit of all of chudkind.
>>97733752Klein steals and grafts her soul onto a random rock
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I claim this thread in the name of True Harmonists, for the benefit of all of simpkind.
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>>97733903>>97734063What would happen if a Son and Daughter fell in love with each other?What would happen if the Son impregnates the Daughter? Would the child become a powerful demigod or something?
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>>97734136I am going to fuck the Ancient Evil.
>>97734103I dual cast Testicular Torsion and Endometiosis
>>97733905Does that even work against an empyrean I think they just respawn?
>>97734218I don't remember
>>97730124The votes are in.>>97730188>>97731069>>97731112>>97731264CYOAG wants to enjoy PHILOSOPHY the most.CYOAG does not want to enjoy SEXY THINGS or MUSIC. Of course not. We're not /trash/. We are philosophers here.
>>97734280So anons keep talking about wanting waifus so they can discuss philosophy with them?
>>977337520^0 might actually win, deus ex machina is local omnipotence and without the other elder gods to interfere she would be unchained from contradiction.
>>97733752klein has 100% loss rate against trannies
>>97734103Entropistanon mentioned it never happened, as Sons already have gifts, daughter already have tons of guys, and tend to be pretty spoiled, beside them being enemies.
>>97734313It's still limited by things theoretically possible, and considering what Klein at the end of the story is I don't know how possible it is for him to die.On the other hand she might be able to do some really nasty things, considering the nature of her powers, in the worst case she might ally with some of the many entities that can kill him, or she might manage to revive into him the consciousness of OC or CW forcing him into self-destruction.
I'm just gonna ask this again now that the chinaboo stuff has died down.Anyone care to speculate what the intent behind the obelisk was in this?Is it supposed to:a) Not be able to move via telekinesis(but can move via other powers like ghost form)b) Not be able to move by its own power (but can be moved by external forces, and presumably uses its telekinesis to maintain an erect position as it is moved)c) Actively resist any attempt to alter its position and if unsuccessful attempt to return to its original position when no greater force than its own is acting on it
>>97733715How commonly known are monsters? Something like <1% of the people on the main continent know that beyonderism exists, right? How many know that monsters exist?
>>97734384I think mutated beyonders and rampagers, wich are pretty much monsters, are pretty much common knowledge.
>>97734103>What would happen if the Son impregnates the Daughter? Would the child become a powerful demigod or something?Balanceist CYOA when?
>>97734367well considering it was possible for CW to die it should be possible for Klein to die too
>>97734103what would happen if a daughter mpreged a son?
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>>97734409Men can't get pregnant they have no womb
>>97734435daughterhood is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
>>97734103Never happened in setting since their personalities are incompatible and both have their own perfect sex slave waifus/husbandos. The Son would also need to have a way to actually get to the Daughter, their planets are some of the most well-defended and hard-to-penetrate places in the multiverse.Assuming a child from the pair is raised by both, they'd likely inherit a large chunk (40SP~ worth) of power from both parents, and they'd be unique since they can mix Entropic powers with Mother-aligned powers. Probably really good at barriers and soul magic, a huge soul/mana 'pool' to cast from, etc.
>>97734103I'm pretty sure Entropist anon said they would just explode because of incompatible energies.
>>97734459>since their personalities are incompatible and both have their own perfect sex slave waifus/husbandosNta but just like there are many sons who rejected gifts there could be dughters who rejected the equivalent. It's very unlikely statistically but it's not impossible.
>>97734288Very Polaris-coded.
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>>97734467just become a futa and make the energies compatible
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>>97733680> ModifiersLecherousEldritch Being: Fae (weak to headpats)> Threat LevelsHigh> AbilitiesCalculationsAbstractionMagic KnowledgeMana Well> Ultimate PowersAetherkinesisSecrets of the Universe> EndingsRebirth-Aetherkinesis+Aetherkinesis (lmao)Go big or go home. Hopefully should be able to use a mix of super-intelligence, precognition and teleportation to outmanuver my enemies until I can be reborn.
>>97734416Built for softie cock.
I always get worried that 4chan will be gone for a long time again whenever It goes down.I have nothing going on in my life, so it would be devastating to lose it forever.
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>>97734567this is one of the best cyoas all the options are surprisingly balanced, going either way has benefits and cons
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>>97734509>GenderFuta (Int, Wis)>HeightShort>BuildScrawny>Special StatsLuckMindSpirit>InterfacesClassesProfession (Alchemist, Scribe)Titles>SkillsBasic Crafting BoostBasic Mana ControlMinor Dark ArtsMinor Druidism>GearStaffRobeLight Boots>Special TalentRace Evolution>Initial TraitsHornsTail Minor Dark Affinity>StatsSTR 10 (-6%)DEX 14 (+7%)CON 10 (-3%)HLT 10INT 13 (+15%) (+2% Dark) (-2% Light)WIS 12 (+14%)PER 10VIT 10LUK 10 (+4%)RES 10SPI 15MND 15 (+2%)A mage focusing on the seemingly most versatile paths to power, being monster copying, dark magic and crafting. Would hope to take a demon summoner type class/evolution eventually, but obviously I can't exactly control that.
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Aromage is literally built to impregnated with alien/human hybrid babies.
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Hey anons, if you got isekai'd to a decent sci-fi world, would you join the space military?Assume that your body would be reset to that of a fit and healthy 18 year old, so you don't have worry about asthma or whatever.
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>>97734800No. Why would I join the military out of all things? To fight for a country I barely recognize as non-fictional? I'd sit in my science fiction apartment, drink plasma cola, eat laser pudding, and maintain an ironic distance.
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>>97734800No, I value my life.
>>97734800If it's a generic nice-ish scifi world, then most likely not since being in military sucks.I might make an exception if it's a franchise world and I know joining is the best way to some major plot advantage (like an immortality serum or something like that).
>>97734520This isn't LOTM.
Jujutsu
>>97735239Kaisen
>>97735239is every jay jay kay cyoa doomed to be shit?
>>97735248Depends on the weather.
>>97735157Yet.
>>97733715Why does Tank like catposters so much?
>>97735373Catposters aren't good speakers or diplomatic
>>97735373I haven't met anyone who dislikes talking animal companions.
>>97735373>KottKott
>>97735373wtf I love lotm now
>>97730294They can forget IF the paradox is severe enough. Otherwise no. The people of New York don't remember that one time a guy rode in on a dinosaur and killed 500 people. Anyway…— ‘The vast, vast majority of awakenings come from institutionalized teaching. The number of mages who awaken from witnessing the supernatural is exactly as high, proportionally, as the number of werewolves who undergo their First Change after being bitten by a werewolf. That is to say, 'there is no meaningful difference.' The Taftani are not correct. Throwing around vulgar magic does not, in fact, Awaken people. The way you Awaken people is with education and patience and 'exposure to the supernatural' that goes far beyond mere witnessing but actively broadens people's horizons. A Ecstatic takes his or her groupies into the Umbra so they can have an orgy with lust-spirits. The academies on Doisstep taught young students linear sorcery and then showed them the older, Awakened students and the wonders they could accomplish, as well as surrounding them with wonders of every shape and form as inspiration.’
>>97735248Yes. The power system is extremely inflexible and the "world building" is so bad that it isn't even worth mentioning.
>>97734800Yes. As long as I'm afforded some freedom and I can get access to some military-grade sci-fi tech/augmentations/psionics.
>>97735248I enjoyed the one that took place in the JJK fanfiction that I've never read. It wasn't a great cyoa, but I enjoyed it, while I don't enjoy most cyoas, so it's above average.
Gil status?
>>97735248For you specifically, yes.
Aro status?
>>97735531low iq
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>>97735409It's funny that none of them have a drawback except for "animal", not even the furry with opposable thumbs. Beyonder Animals are mary sues.
Rolled 6 (1d15)>>97735509It looks cool but I dislike the breadth and metaness of the powers.Also I'm a bad anon and don't deserve 3 powers. Rolling for 1 power only.
>>97735549The fuck is wrong with you
>>97735606>Dank Memes>Kind of a waste but any memes drawn with the pencil become some of the dankestI don't deserve more.
>>97735531IQ got too high.
Danmachi NOW
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>>97735647I recognize that, it's from Blood, right?
>>97735535This one's way worse than the other; horribly balanced.
>>97734550No, you are built for Softie cock, and Softie is built for Tok cock.
>>97733715Divine Candidates: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97712322/#97712362Divine Candidate Review: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97712322/#97713358>In Modern Day:Engineer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97696856The Omniscient https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97707387The Wizard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97706196The Baleful https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97712322/#97714201The Enlightener https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692424https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693124https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693481Thief of Hearts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97693768GOO Servant https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97696060Angel of Travelers https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97717122/#97720147The Hacker Known as 4chin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700984https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700991Wise Holy Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97704995Friendly Neighborhood Necromancer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97706005/#97706674https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97712322/#97713134The Vicar Maiden https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97717122/#97719993Spunky https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97725289/#97730527
>>97736119Lord of the Mysteries!
>>97736119>In the 5th Epoch:Celrog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97685926Warrior Angel https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97688599Ego Death Offer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694267Luckiest Bastard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97690702Clueless Mommy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97692134Laurence Rubelle https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694187Eyes that Bind https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97699439All-in-One https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97694728Mommy God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97700581Castiya Heir https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97696813/#97705238Nameless Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97725289/#97729506
>>97736119Do benefits do anything other than burn insanities?
>>97736145anon...
>he didn't pick the disgusting jingasangmi
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>>97735531mid IQ, but woman IQ is not as good as man IQ in general
>>97736119>only one woman buildThis is how you know the MP was organic and had no mcyoag faggots
>>97736145They give discounts. And unlock Talents if you are not in modern day.
>>97736119Are Sanguines just fakers? They are just born at S7 and need to progress the same way as everyone else? And here I tought I could get a free progression there.
>>97734800only if i know for a fact that i have plot armor and can be something incredible cool like the Ghosts from Starcraft or a Spectre from Mass Effect. Otherwise HELL no.
>>97736191I'll bite, what exactly is so special about the DISGUISING jingasa?
>>97736465>Ghosts from StarcraftSo some orphan with psychic powers that got experimented on, conditioned and doctrinated to be an absolute schizo sociopath for either Mengsk (mouthbreather retard), Confederacy (inbred redneck retards) or whatever cobbled up government that came after the shitshow that was legacy of the void and probably addicted to and can't live without Terrazine (read: pyschic space fentanyl).Pass.>Spectre from Mass EffectBeing super LGBTQWTFBBQ+++++ gay overglorified space commissars.Pass.
I said I was gonna make a cyoabut I ain'tI ain't gonna make a cyoa ever again
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>>97736531Damn bro that sucks. How many times did your OC flop?
>>97736521i just subconsciously read some phrases in humorously wrong ways sometimes after seeing them several times, and disgusting jingasa is one of them after i made a bunch of different buildsfor an entirely different example there's an author of a webnovel i read named warby picus but my brain just goes warty dickus every time
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>>97736559disgusting.
https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8jingasa
>>97736531Now don't be like that. If you don't want to make a big one, make a small one.What's the worst that will happen? An anon will yell at you: "kill yourself, your cyoa is stinky"?
Got any CYOA for this feel?
>>97736681I love big breasts on female humans.
>>97736638>>97736681Lotsa big boobers here
Conquest status?Ultimate god status?Magi case redux status?Crimson Desert status?
>>97736681All of them
>>97733682Where are the posters outside of LOTM enthusiasts anyway?
>>97736857Away, periodically checking the thread to see if it's usable for them.
>>97736857I just don't care for that cyoa. It is boring. I am waiting for good OC.
>>97736850Crimson desert just came out. Ultimate God is still in extended lore writing hell, conquest returned to the viltrumites, magi case redux never ever.
>>97736891>conquest returned to the viltrumitesNoooo! And just in time for the season where the gf of the mc aborts the child! It is so over for conquest...
>>97736850Exalted Conquest will release as soon as tomorrow gets here.
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>>97736891>Crimson DesertYou have a link? The archive even explain what you're talking about
>>97736936it's a video game
>>97736953I feel out of touch now...
>>97736961Boomer
>>97736936CDA posted a WIP on discord, of the 1st page where you can choose between a Blood Unicorn, Sand Unicorn and Giant Skeleton as your (intelligent, talking) mount. Most testers agreed the Giant Skeleton is OP as it can grasp weapons such as the Giant Shovel (great for digging out tombs for your pet pharaohs) and also gives you the greatest altitude (for long-distance spellcasting) and protection when you sit inside its skull.
>>97736970So basically, discord already ruined the cyoa before it is even out with their garbage feedback that results in a nerf. Classic.
>>977368502 more weeks.Trust the plan.
>>97736850>ConquestForgotten>Ultimate godThe update is just new images and lore. Barely any new choices. Even then, lazy cunt aro can't be bothered to write them.>Magi case reduxUnironically? 3 years or 4>Crimson DesertRefunded
>>97736119Aside from NGMI Broker, no one wants to go for The Anarchy, huh?
>>97736119>DemonessWould
>>97736857Being retarded. They could stay and keep discussion going for something other than the current flavor of the month but instead they'd rather be pissbabies and complain.
>>97737027Black Emperor is too evil, Justicar is too good.
>>97736681Real life CYOA
>>97737090You got fat milkers that keep getting in your cereal bowl IRL?
>>97737098Not me, but aro does
>>97737027Honestly, the path is cursed to be reclaimed by UM since he can bypass the barrier.
>>97737098Not exactly, but I did knock over a cup with my boobs the other day.
OC—oc-OC-oc—OCOC oc OC oc OCOC-oc—OC—oc-OCOC oc OC oc OCOC—oc-OC-oc—OC··~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~FAIRY d20 THAT ALTERS HUMANITY~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~ — ~You find a fairy d20.Just lying there on the ground. Waiting to be picked up.You think you could leave it alone?Too late! The d20 has enchanted you. You're compelled to pick it up and roll it 6 times.Then the fairy's magic will alter humanity ever after.(Since it's all fairy magic, humans won't generally suffer catastrophic side effects, like 20x height causing blood supply problems)ROLL dice+6d20 !>DIE #1, #2, #3:>1All humans become x times taller.>2All humans become x times shorter.>3All humans start having x heads (separate minds, identical memories at first).>4All humans start having x eyes (per head).>5All humans start having x times longer necks.>6All humans start having x fingers (per arm).>7All humans start having x arms.>8All humans start having x times longer arms.>9All humans start having x times longer legs.>10All humans start having x wings. They are magical wings that let you fly.>11All humans start having tentacles instead of limbs: x tentacles per each former limb. Arm tentacles still end in fingers.>12All humans start having x teeth.>13All humans duplicate into x identical humans (separate minds, identical memories at first).>14All humans become x years younger. Negative age = death.>15All humans become x years older.>16All humans start having x times longer lifespan.>17All humans gain x IQ points.>18All humans lose x IQ points.>19All female humans get x times bigger boobies.>20All humans start needing to sleep x hours per day.>DIE #4, #5, #6:Provide the "x" for DIE #1, #2, #3 respectively.
>>97737116>You're compelledi don't feel any compulsion, i guess it didn't work
>>97737123wowYou are too strong for this cyoa. You've won. I didn't realize an anon as strong as this existed... you've proven me wrong.
>>97737107IIRC, the author answered that he's still sealed In Modern Day.
Rolled 12, 17, 18, 12, 18, 13 = 90 (6d20)>>97737116
No personal power = no build
Rolled 15, 20, 13, 50, 51, 27 = 176 (6d60)>>97737093This isn't really a very compelling premise, and I would much prefer and adventure with some choices and some rolls involved, instead of just a series of rollsAlso, the theming here is strange as it claims I must roll the dice 60 times to produce what will, from my perspective be 6 results
>>97737148>12, 17, 18, 12, 18, 13>12 12All humans start having 12 teeth.>17 18All humans gain 18 IQ points.>18 13All humans lose 13 IQ points.All humans gain 5 IQ points and have fewer teeth. Net win. I think smarter people are usually also more virtuous overall. It's not a hard rule but on average it pans out. So I'd expect a slightly better world.
>>97737175Ah, a mistakeIf we take the mod, then eveyone gets 10 year older, makes 11 clones and needs 7 hours of sleepIf not the dice breaks, everyone dies and I have thus defeated humanity (By fae rules this makes me king of earth)
>>97737027What really surprises me is how uncontested God Almighty is. You'd think we'd have at least one visionary or something.
Rolled 1, 8, 7, 5, 16, 15 = 52 (6d20)>>97737116Make humanity more powerful without adding non-human features.
>>97737201You lost. AGAIN
>>97737116>No immortalitywtf, how will tok even be able to play this?
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>>97737195>visionaryNobody wants to be keikaku man. Anybody who did pick visionary would get dogpiled by everyone else
>>97737180Smarter people don't have kids, your results will indeed lead to a better society with higher quality of life, but at the same time a huge risk of demographic decline.
>>97737175>This isn't really a very compelling premise, and I would much prefer and adventure with some choices and some rolls involved, instead of just a series of rollsI agree, somehow I end up with this unintentionally. I had a more ambitious ryoa/cyoa in mind but I still haven't finished my LotM build, so I decided to trim it to this and get back to reading the LotM cyoa. When I abandon initial plans, I end up remaking loosely this idea over and over, it's what I subconsciously default to.
>>97737246More focused people tend to have fewer children, and most measures of intelligence favor focusIf it were a direct cognative boost it should have no or a positive change
>>97737246If there's no complete collapse soon, then we'll progress to artificial wombs not long from now, I think. Adapting our society to that is a hassle but it would have to happen anyway. Then typical demographic decline problems become irrelevant as they're replaced by weird futuristic problems.
>>97733682Frankly it's amazing that so many anons were even familiar with this chink webtoon in the first place
>>97737329It's been so long
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>>97737352Why is Susie giving people the criminal potion? And not warning people about the Assassin potion?
>>97734550Softie is on the record as someone who wants to take tranny cock. Clearly he bottoms he here.
>>97737438Ur-uke sama.
>>97734421Your image for multiplayer is the old less complete version btw
>>97737438He always does.
>>97734063I almost replaced my Entropist build with this. Then I slept on it and realized how retarded that would've been.
>>97737195Still doing my build but I remembered that I don't start with a certain artifact and now I'm thinking what to buy and how dangerous bounty is
>>97736426Generally everyone can be born at higher essence if their parents had extra characteristics they wanted to drop, the sanguines simply do that as a tradition.
>>97733903>Entropist
>>97737329I wasn't familiar with it before the CYOA.
If you had enough people worship you, could you survive the madness of skipping to a high tier Sequence? It's said that the old gods went mad until enough people worshiped them and they (re)gained their humanity.
>>97737195I feel like people are reluctant to try and deal with PGA and CW.
>>97738256In modern days they're asleep.
>>97734800I love reading about them. But War is fucking War and I don't want to fight in a fucking war. I am a Coward thank you very much. YoungConscriptNo ChoiceHazardous Environment OperationsFree Lucky CharmSharp, Fast Learner, Patient, Fearless, Tough Mind, Jury-Rigged, Friend of the MachineSMG, Emergency Kit, Comfortable Combat Webbing, Spotter DroneAI Overwatch, Xenos FriendlyDirect Command InvolvementWhatever mission lets me sit in one guard spot and not move.
>>97738259Yeah but they're also going to be forever problems. They'll still be annoying you in a billion years.
>>97736119You know I can see the use case for keeping a Chained around, but the only reason I can see for not just letting the MToD take Abyss and fuck off with it is that she'd surely use it to shit up the rest of the universe.
>>97738176>how dangerous bounty isEasily one of the most dangerous picks in modern day.
>>97734816>>97734849>>97734968>>97735477>>97736465These are the anons that think they will thrive in Exalted Conquest btw.
>>97738311>anons who think they will thrive in imaginary adventures in wonderlands that exist inside their headsThose poor anons... they have no idea what's in store for them. The wonderlands that exist inside their heads are BRUTAL
>>97733715I asked mr tankman about Hidden Realm:> You can define it yourself as long as it isn't too overpowered.> You could imagine that it would work as a gathering place like Klein does with Sefirah Castle. You could make it so that it provides you transportation. Or that it's a source of Beyonder creatures to turn into materials. It could be some favourable terrain you could manipulate when drawing enemies within. Maybe while within you're temporarily treated as being one Sequence higher, up to Sequence 1. Maybe even all of the above.
>>97738288Yes but it's for a sequence 3 partner, so for a distant future
>>97738311I don't think I ever said that.
>>97733903Posting what I made till now of my build, before I lose it, still need to spend 12 red SP, make the green SP build with drawbacks and reroll my walk blessed as I forgot what I had.>Entropist Ascended SpiritKnowledge of the FatherEntropic Soul>Powers 50 SPSoul Drain (Free)Blood Magic (-1 SP)Necromancy (Rejuvenate) (-3 SP)Soul Magic (all upgrades) (Free)Create Phylactery (-2 SP)Power Word (all upgrades) (-6 SP)Aligned Magnificence (-2 SP)Echoed Roar (-1 SP)Void Cutter (-2 SP)Plutonian Dream (-2 SP)Golden Truth (-6 SP)Elder Ink (-3 SP)Spirit Armor (-1 SP)Aura of Dread (all upgrades) (-5 SP)Nightmare Magic (all upgrades) (-3 SP)Fallen Angel (-2 SP)Walk Blessed (-5 SP)>Non Entropic Powers Elemental Simulacrum (Fire, Water) (-5 SP)Fleshwarp (-2 SP)Arcane Magic (Free)Physical Empowerment (-5 SP)Sex Magic (-2 SP)Ascension (Divine Promotion) (-4)>PerksPerception ChangeFeast of EvilDollsNoveltyHaremBeauty>Minions +10Familiar (-2 SP)Vampire (-1 SP)Death Knight (-1 SP)Death Mage (-1 SP)Elder Vampire (-3 SP)Death Lord (-3 SP)Lich (-3 SP)Black Wyvern (-1 SP)Black Dragon (-3 SP)Entropy Heralds (-2 SP)Succubus (-2 SP)Whispers (-1 SP)Tahneem (-2 SP)Einherjar (-1 SP)Dark Valkyrie (-1 SP)Elemental Giant (-2 SP)Nephilim Bannermen (-1 SP)Spirit Roost (-2 SP)Ascended Master (-3 SP)Reflected Matron (-2 SP)>GiftsSangraFalistaAltaElaineEctosBloomKoryuuNidaAstraEster>OathsGentle WardBenevolent Elder (Soul Magic)>DrawbacksLimited Capacity (+6 SP)Holy Weakness (+3 SP)Dead Senses (taste) (+4 SP)Incompatible Target (Spirits) (+2 SP)Disloyalty (+1 SP)Elemental Weakness (Earth, Wind) (+6 SP)Beacon (+2 SP)Pleasure TargetSuicide (+4 SP)True Son (+10 SP +1 Perk)One Way (Minions) (+1 Perk)Deep Sleep (+2 SP)Single Root (+2 SP)Devotion>EventsMultiplayer (+5 SP)
>>97738575>Feast of Evil>Incompatible Target (Spirits)Demons and stuff fall under the umbrella of spirits, might want to reconsider.
>>97738575>Limited Capacity (+6 SP)bro y
>>97738593Nida can use her cursed supremacy to capture evil spirits.Also no, according to EA demons vary according to their place of origin.>They vary, as they all come in different forms and appearances, much like dream creatures. The nearby, Moloch hell is more monstrous and humanoid than the other types.
>>97738601Because almost none of my powers even allow me to spend ten billions of souls, and I will probably never do that anyway, I prefer efficency.
>>97737329LoTM reached near mainstream status before the anime even came out. I would dare say that it and Reverend Insanity are the most influential literary works to come out of china in recent years.
>>97738575For now among the two main things I would be interested in buying would be either earth magic or sanguine evolution.
>>97738672get some advanced elemental magic
>>97738683Why?
>>97738649Are you saying we're mainstream?
>>97738649>Reverend InsanityWho was the Reverend and why was he insane?
>>97738798People have lives outside of "le epic sekrit contrarian club".
>>97738786it's inexpensive, gives you free power, and is useful
>>97738601You'll never reach 10 billion souls if you are constantly summoning minions.The only reason not to take it is the implication that you can never become a god-like being on par with the big boys of the setting, but that's not going to happen anyways lol.
>>97738575>Events>MultiplayerI've been rethinking about taking this event for my ancient build, because it's basically sacrificing earth and allowing the spread of even more suffering throughout the multiverse just for the sake of personal power. Sons that don't adhere to any kind of code of ethics are little better than demon lords. And while the idealist in me says that most anons wouldn't be as cruel as they think would be, the realist in me says that many would eventually succumb to corruption and evil.
>>97733715a bit late but here's a build for ye>OriginMother's Little Ne- reincarnator>Fate TemperanceJusticeChaineda fate wrapped in control, but whose control? >BodyFemaleLucky?RoughEducatedAudrey Caern is a young tomboyish girl that has recently become 10, she is well learned for her age due to the tutoring of her mother.the mother is a woman and thus the body of her pawn was to be so too.>StatusNoble Descendant"wild" beyonderborn into a rich family that has long known the ways of her pathway, a guarantee that she may be of use even if the original plan failed.>RegionSouthern Continentthe Caern's have their land in the Intis colonies on the southern continent, coincidentally this is not far from where the chained god rests.>Secret Org/noble familyother Familythe Caern family used to be part of Balam but at the end of the fourth Epoch they turned on them and sided with the foreigners with the goal of finally taking out the chained god but failed. now they work with the colonial government to help keep the local beyonders in line. Audrey is still too young to join the government forces but will be expected to once she grows older.>PathwayChained, the choice was made for her before she was even born.>personal history9 - Beyonder Child8 - Mundane Acting, Rampager Encounter7 - Slow and Steady, Hero Bandit, anomaly victim6 - Experienced Veteran, Gray Wedding, tomb raider5 - Ravages of time, Legend in the back, Calamity SurvivorAudrey was born a beyonder of sequence 9 and had advanced to 5 during the little time she had been alive.>Madnessanother's revival, it's unknown to Audrey who this might beSuicidal Tendency-Paranoia-on her tenth birthday something changed in Audrey, she no longer trusts her family and is showing increased hesitancy to advance further on her pathway. she keeps insisting that "none of this is real" and has become increasingly reckless as if she hopes she dies before some dark fate befalls her.
>>97733715>>97738957>PurificationIndulgenceAudrey(?) isn't paranoid, there are objectively a bunch of psychotic "angels" and "gods" in charge of this world that want whats worse for her. not to mention her own "family" that has been dragging her down her accursed pathway.>wealth2xAffluence Cursed LeatherMoral Compass, used as a necklace for her dogPeacekeeping clothInventor's Logthe Caerns are already a rich family (but nowhere near as rich as those of the northern continent) with Audrey's allowance being greater than what most workers earn in a decade. she has been given a few sealed artifacts over the years as birthday presents.>KnowledgeKings of Angels2xPathway LoreMystical RitualsActing Method3xMystical LanguageAudrey's Mother is a well learned woman who had instructed her in this even before her former memories returned. however something did arrange for her to also be fluent in an ancient mystical language found in the southern continent>InfluenceJakob Seegeld, Audrey's HusbandTacit Agreement, although she was never made aware of itPolitical Connections, the Caern family is very powerful within the Intis colonies. one of the rare natives the colonial government actually somewhat respects.Celia & Floriane Tasse Marie EtienneLea HooperHarvie FrancisMad Dog. was gifted to Audrey on her sixth birthday, has absolutely rancid vibes and no one else likes it, including "Audrey"her husband is a sequence 5 Red Priest and belongs to a rich family of industrial tycoonsAudrey has friends, although the relationship with them has started to strain a little since Audrey started acting weird.>coincidencesSefirot - Tenebrous World - the first stepChained Uniqueness - and the second step, but which plan?Audrey may have been fated for more put it's being pulled in two seperate directions, the uniqueness and the Sefirot are all that remains of it.
>>97733715>>97738957>>97738958little lore drop in case one of you FREAKS wants to do multiplayer with this oneLady Audrey was never meant to be, she was meant to be stillborn. and yet here she is.she grew up in the Caern family and was put on the Chained pathway as per the will of her mother. she quickly advanced on it altough it did leave some marks on her. shortly after her birth she was betrothed to Jakob Seegeld as part of a political and business move, the Caerns would get controlling shares in the Seegeld companies and they would get exclusive access to the resources on their land. they grew up together and the marriage was conducted when she was 10 as her mother was growing worried the Seegeld might break the betrothal. Audrey would usually play with the children of the colonizers and not her fellow natives. although many of her friends were afraid of her and her beyonder powers, not to mention that accursed dog of hers. she would occasionally sneak out to use her beyonder powers for justice, although she stopped after her dog brutally murdered over 20 people during a drug bust. it was this that sowed the seeds for her future suicidal tendencies.on her 10th birthday Audrey blew out her candles and remembered.she'd occasionally remembered things that never happened, places that didn't exist, or people that have never lived but now she remembered all of it. of the things she remembered a couple of things stood out the most1. she will attain a Sefirot2. she will have an opportunity to attain the Chained Uniqueness3. others have arranged for thiswho are these people? is it her mother? is it one of the gods? and why does it feel like there is a massive gaping hole surrounding the Sefirot?how much of her life had been planned out by these arrangers of fate?
>>97738953Don't pretend we cared about Earth and its denizens in the first place. Just take the points and enjoy eternity with your bros and waifus.
>>97738311if i have plot armor then yes, i will. The plot demands it.
>>97738830I will think about it.>>97738953Eh, I don't really see a meta choice like that as sacrificing anything.
>>97738957>AudreyHm...I wonder if we can target Justice with the "One = 1 = 0^0" strategy.
>>97738971>plot armor>Anon survive until the nanosecond he encounters True Anon>he was a stepping stone for the true contenderKINO
>>97738970>Don't pretend we cared about Earth and its denizens in the first place.
>>97738311havent been here in a while, what was Exalted Conquest again? Doesnt ring a bell. Someone post it.
you destroy earth because you are power hungryI destroy Earth to deny the Demiurge Yaldaboath his prison thus forcing him to release the souls he has capturedwe are not the same
>>97738987>Someone post it.How do we tell him?
>>97738987>what was Exalted Conquest again?It's the forever wip spinoff to Entropist.Instead of being death-themed, it's conquest themed.Instead of taking place on earth, it takes place on another world.
>>97738986>The gleeful genociders aren't innately good peopleNo, really? How could this be?
>>97738970I care about the nation I am in, and the people who reside there(It's not likely your one but it's still earth)I could probably stretch to any number of other white majority nations
>>97738970>weI care about Earth as a whole, animals and vegetals included. Don't assume we're all sociopathic wrecks.
>>97738953Just figured that out, did you?
>>97739015It's easy to groupthink in cyoag so the implications hit later
>>97738953But said suffering can be turned into sick as hell mecha dolls.
>>97738902Jobber mentality
>>97738953Everyone that mattered got morphed into a Son. If you have loved ones or whatever induct them to your Sanctum, and kill as many people as possible. They're your early ressources.
>>97738818Funnily enough. Reverend Insanity was a made up title by the English translators, which is actually a stroke of genius on their part and one of the reasons it got so popular. The original name was simply "Gu Master", which is boring as it sounds and not nearly as catchy.
>>97738963>MultiplayerThat isn't even you, that's just a peculiarly powerful little girl>FREAKSAnon you chose the little girl tokenIt wasn't a little girl cyoa
>>97739023>It's easy to groupthink in cyoagAnons will look at you dead in the eyes and say that only reddit does that.
>>97738953Souls can be createdIt's only a matter of STRENGTH being created, and the continual movement towards a higher peakAny death toll is justified
>>97739054>Any death toll is justifiedYou say that but you'll definitely be seething when you're part of that statistic. Everybody loves role playing as an edgy powerhungry psychopath until they become someone else's stepping stone to ascension.
>>97739054abyssanon...
>>97739061>SeethingI'd be deadAlso, my actions against myself would also be justifiedConflict is good, this doens't mean it becomes bad whenever someone else wins. Or that anyone shouldn't try to win. Or that some people shouldn't try to win by forcing a peaceIt simply means you don't look back
>>97738970>Just take the points and enjoy eternity with your bros and waifus.Mindless slaves are not very stimulating conversation partners and anons cannot be trusted if we take what you said as an example. Plus, despite what coomers tell you, sex will not fill the bottom hole in your chest for long. You will be miserable forever. Or at least you kill yourself via getting assimilated by the Father.
>>97739080>Mindless slaves are not very stimulating conversation partnersThen just don't sartre them into mindless slaves?Really that simple
>>97739080>Or at least until you kill yourself via getting assimilated by the Father.So that's why he gives Sons so much power with no (apparent) strings attached. He knows that the final fate of all hedonistic Sons is total soul burnout that ends with suicide. In the end all will return to him out of their own volition. It was foolish of us to doubt the cunning of the Cosmic Reaper...
>>97739078>I'd be deadYou'll seethe from the afterlife as you watch someone with the same ideology as you, but simply better in every way, cuck you out of everything you ever accomplished. In the end you'll realise that your entire purpose of existence was to simply be a metaphorical Turkey gladly fattening himself for someone else to consume and get stronger.
>>97733715got curious and watched the first episode of the show and holy hell is visionary nasty
>>97739095...unless they take Novelty, then their life rocks forever.
>>97739108No?Are you doing that right now?
>>97739095>He knows that the final fate of all hedonistic Sons is total soul burnout that ends with suicide.That's why Novelty is the most important perk for longterm survival. Even with extreme discipline and moderation, you will get tired of living after millions of years, it's inevitable.
>>97739134Will I even accumulate new memories after millions of years?Would I not just level out?Why do people always pretend that immortality is their story being stretched over an infinite book, when they have no author and no reason to remember what happened 500,000 years agoImagine you made a promise in your first milisecond of life to never speak and forgot about it. Would you care? would you stop everything to go back to how you were?Why would you turn back? Why would you want to be anything but what you are?Also, once again, the whole thing about getting bored really only applies to you right now, after about 60 years you should learn to become someone who doesn't get bored, it's quite inevitable
>>97738575Limited Capacity + Holy Weaknes + Beacon + Pleasure Target + One Way + Deep SleepSo you're crippling your ablity to acquire and store souls, and giving yourself a bunch of enemies while also making it really easy for them to find you and having to be vulnerable for an entire year.
>>97739080>Mindless slavesYou didn't play the cyoa.
>>97739212>Limited CapacityNot really important>Holy WeaknesI'm not really a personal fighter, I can use some powers, mainly supportive, but more probably I would try to make deals or use Gifts, minions or external alliances.Also I prefer avoiding to fight the Mother, I have Petros' deal for that >Pleasure TargetThat's just because the build started as a dumb challenge (in the first iteration of the cyoa) to take all GP without using commander, else I wouldn't have Beauty either>One WayUnironically entropic soul and minions are all I need to gather souls>Deep SleepWhile dreaming I still act in the dreamland and therefore accumulate power and enhance my influence.
>>97736119> OriginIn Modern Day> FatePast: The DevilPresent: The SunFuture: The Hermit> BodyMaleEducatedWell-SpokenPresentable> StatusDark Trailblazer> PathwayHermit (9)> WealthSealed Artifacts x6 (Hanged Man 9: Secret Shrine, White Tower 8: Harsh Teacher, Hermit 9: Scholarly Message, Hermit 8: Smart Steel, Chained 9: Escape, Moon 9: Trial Package)Potion Ingredients x4 (Hermit 8, Hermit 7, Hermit 6, Hermit 5)Forbidden Literature x3 (Door)Hidden Realm (Wizard's Tower: Contains a bunch of loyal Beyonder Creatures that can be commanded or used for ingredients/components, as well as scattered books containing random safe mystical knowledge. I am treated as one level higher while within, up to S1, and finally time within passes at 2x speed).> KnowledgePotion Formula (Hermit 8-3)Sealed KnowledgeActing MethodMystic LanguageBeyonder Creatures> InfluencePartner x6 (Hanged Man 9: Marie Etienne, White Tower 5: Mr Kott, Red Priest 9: Rubeus Medici, Black Emperor 9: Anise Durant, Chained 9: The Beast In The Basement, Mother 9: Lesley Meadows)Political ConnectionsGathering InvitationBlessed (Knowledge Moor)Tacit Agreement> TalentsEye For WrongnessRole Affinity (Hermit)Deep CogitationDownstream ProtectionMinor (and probably last) update to clarify my hidden realm. It's an easy source of basically everything needed for proper growth, so the plan is going to be to hole up in here most of the time once I get it.
>>97738988I do it because it's funny and to killl my childhood bullies
>>97738988I destroy earth accidentally, I fucked up, I'm on earth, I don't want to be destroyed
>>97736850>>97736983>Magi case redux status?Trust the plan. Magi Case Invasion of CYOAG will happen.
>>97739335>and finally time within passes at 2x speedwhy would you ever want that
>>97739466More time to study?
>>97739475isnt that less time to study? it takes you 2 hours to learn what would take 1 outside did you mean time passes at half speed
>le mage caseNobody cares about Italics slop and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. He and his CYOAs are the living example of a mass-produced product meant to be consumed and "liked". There is neither style or substance or themez or anything to talk about hisbprojects, it's all artificial.
>>97739482No? This means that if I spend 2 hours studying inside, only 1 hour would pass outside.
>>97739448magi case is basically lazier LOTM might as well just keep LOTM
>>97739493you say that about everything
>>97737105Celt too
>>97739505This bait is of a subpar quality
>>97739493Almost right, but this is more correct>Nobody cares about CYOA slop and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. CYOAs are the living example of a mass-produced product meant to be consumed and "liked". There is neither style or substance or themes or anything to talk about these projects. It's all artificial.
>>97739522it's true, paragon > ford btw
>>97739505Alright. I'll bite. How is Magi Case anything lioe Lord of the Mysteries? What led you to this conclusion? Entertain me.
Where is Gil
>>97739590(You) are an eternal jobber who will never reach the highest levels, the magic classes are also 22 funnily enoughcuttlefish is asian italics
>>97739590>Sequences are Bloodlines>Auctors are the Sequences 0 guys? Above the Sequences eldritch dudes?>Also you can't beat the Auct- I mean the godsIt's all I found, very superficially.
>>97739493TRUTH NUKE
>>97739590Both have the letter M capitalised.
>>97739689>(You) are an eternal jobber who will never reach the highest levelsJust become the Mirrored Creator? Or steal a Pillar spot with the Radiant Nothing
>>97739590Both make me seethe.
>>97739701>Also you can't beat the AuctorsDidn't Italics outright say it's possible to become better at sound magic than Malivent because he went for the easy version of it's immortality instead of taking it to it's peak?
>>97739732Doesn't matter if I can't beat Drac.
>>97739689Magi Case has you able to reach and surpass several Auctors and mate the Strongest Auctor.
>>97739747>mate the Strongest Auctor.Defeated by dick isn't true victory.
>>97739732>>97739747I remember Yggrdrasil and Malivent being on the list, but who are the others?
>>97739750Are you sure about that? If my whole theme is waifus and harems, isn't victory by dick the only one viable?
>>97739744Drac literally admits she doesn't want to be part of dumb powerscaling bullshit/or viewed as the strongest thing for people to fight. She just wants to be treated like a woman.How do people miss such simple characterization? Is being the strongest make others retarded when it comes to understanding such characters?
>>97733715Do Mythical Creature Forms do anything other than make people crazy?
>>97739782Even if she doesn't want to involve herselfEven if she has no reason to go against anonAt the end of the day, she is still stronger than powergamer anon and that alone is enough of a reason
>>97739757>Who are the othersEveryone not Galileo, Drac, Ostane, Devil.
>>97739782>How do people miss such simple characterization? Is being the strongest make others retarded when it comes to understanding such characters?Italics wrote it at least four times in her entry, everyone understand her character - which is irrelevant in the simple pipeline of "You can't beat Drac 1v1".Love, friendship, mercy, whatever ethics and virtues you can come up with, doesn't matter. All those ways to dodge to fight are just that. It's all about being THE STRONGEST by defeating THE STRONGEST.But yes. In essence, that monomania make them retarded.
>>97739804>DevilYou could probably make him self-delete with a high Malivent-type distraction.
>>97739718>Just become the Mirrored CreatorTo be fair if you completed the symbolism of the original creator in the irror he would revive into you.That said your other point is fair.Nta.
>>97739782Powergamer anons don't care about what Drac wantsThey don't care that she has no reason to fight them; they probably don't even really want to fight herThey want to be the strongest, and as the strongest, Drac is the one they need to beat to fulfill that fantasy
>>97739782Drac as a person doesn't exist for them. She's just "the strongest" aka the person they need to defeat.
>b-buh what about the npc's fweewings?do magifags really
>>97739897>Everyone but me and fellow players are NPCsAnd thus we loop back to Sons destroying Earth because "who cares lol?"
>>97739934Nta but do you know what the word npc means?
mfw I have to put up a generational performance and 1v1 a Son anon to protect my family>I refused to play entropist
If Drac doesn't care about being the strongest then surely she shouldn't care if she's no longer the strongest, right?
>>97740072She wouldn'tBut how would you prove it to yourself?
>>97739800>>97739808>>97739828>>97739840Is she Drac because she is the strongest mage? Or is she the strongest mage because she is Drac?
>>97740045Everyone but me.
>Strongest mages are alll mad chill and friendly people.>All the powergaming mages NPCs are sociopaths who ruin life for others.What did Italics mean by this?
>>97740149anons can't handle real competition, anyone strong enough must be their wife or friend
>>97740072Drac never proclaimed herself the strongest in the first place. She never even cared about being the strongest. It was forced on her.
>>97740099Neither - she's the strongest mage because of Liber Juratis.
>>97740186She was already salad tossing Devil without using her relic. She is definetly up there in terms of powerlevel.It's the same situation when Ostane bent over and started pegging Ford on the tree stump using ONLY Alchemy.
>>97739095That is a very pretty sky.
>>97740149>What did Italics mean by this?Something the powerfags won't ever understand.
>Evoco plans on crippling their own Magic because SUSANGOD might appear.Evoco keks come outside.
>>97740203She'd be strong, but not THE STRONGEST (UNBEATABLE).I'm not even sure she would be here in modern day without the relic, which circle back to her magic level.Besides, all her internal conflict comes from the fact that "strongest mage" part of her identity is swallowing the rest - separating it from "Drac" seems fitting.
Holy shit no one cares
>>97740242>m not even sure she would be here in modern day without the relic,Drac Clan has a fat guy who is part of the first generation of mages like Drac and Ostane. He doesn't have a relic and made himself an elemental. So it is entirely possible for her to be around during the modern day without a relic.>not THE STRONGESTShe still salad tossed a man who entire spells are supposed to be instant kills until he deleted himself and turned into the 3rd strongest mage in existence.
>>97740264True, let's go back to Danmachi. What's your familia?
>>97740264I care.I asked.
>>97740282The Jesus Christ familia. Imagine.
>>97733903>>97734063I know I'm way way late to this party but the funny thing about entropist isn't that so many people fantasized about killing billions of people it's that they were willing do so for so little benefit. If you run the math on SP it basically means that being an enropist amounts to killing almost everyone you meet just to keep your mana topped off let alone actually get any new power.
I will never take Magi Case seriously no matter how much anons shill for it. The strongest being in your setting being a hecking kawai uwu loli automatically puts it in shit tier. You can say whatever you want about its inspiration Fate and their genderbending fetish, but at least they treat their top dogs with respect.
>>97740297>You can say whatever you want about its inspiration Fate and their genderbending fetish, but at least they treat their top dogs with respect.you dont believe that
>>97740295The mana is merely a bonus.
>>97740297You lost, moralfag. The war is over.
>>97740297>but at least they treat their top dogs with respect.lol, lmaoWhich ones?
>>97740310>moralfag lost the warRevisionism at its finest.
>>97740302>>97740311Gilgamesh, The true mage geezer, the eldritch and alien entities, etc... are all badass and interesting characters. The albino loli meanwhile is literally a prop meant to insight pity (and lust if you're a lolifag) in the player and nothing else. Her personality is bland as fuck and her backstory is your typical anime sad sobstory you heard a thousand times before.
>>97740349>GilgameshThe jobber supreme?>the eldritch and alien entitiesAll become waifus, btw. Don't you love fgo?>The true mage geezerI don't remember Zelretch catching any Ls like the others, so you get this one
>>97740349>>Gilgamesh>>>treated with respectohnonononononononono BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>97740297Manaka?
Also Italics relies to much on Mcguffins and deus ex machina plot devices. Are you telling me no less than 3+ (Drac, Ostanes, Meirin and who else?) fused with a conveniently compatible relics that pushed to the peak of the setting power rankings? Give a break lol.
>>97740404italics has never been a good worldbuilder, his only strength will always be pity bait waifus
>>97740307Not really, it's a huge operational headache. Most powers do not by default give you the souls you kill with them and the ones that cause mass death are stupidly expensive. An entropist could spend 24/7 using Reap to kill helpless innocents and still struggle to keep up in total kill count with someone with more than one nuclear bomb, even if they blow all their mana on Apocalypse Magic every chance they get.You want to talk about simping? Look how stupidly expensive Gifts are to summon. You may feel like a stuid picking out all your chudette waifus but run the numbers and you're committing multiple geniocides for a glorified minion with a pussy attached that still has less killing power than a well-aimed hydrogen bomb. The genius of this CYOA is that it sells you on being an all-powerful murder machine and what you really end up as is a low SP glorified school shooter with unrealistic ambitions of beating the many, many enemies you took from your flaws.
>>97740378>>97740380Gilgamesh may be the plot's punching bag but he is confirmed to be the strongest servant. More importantly his abilities, backstory and personality all put Dracuck to shame.>All become waifus, btw. Don't you love fgo?That is not the issue here. They are still fucking terrifying beings despite Nasu's coomer tendencies. Drac can't relate.
>>97740412This. His waifu pickers always outperform his other cyoas simply because he knows how to play a weeb's heartstrings.
>>97740417Didn't read, killed the world, fucked my Gifts, won eternity.
>>97740417>The genius of this CYOA is that it sells you on being an all-powerful murder machine, and what you really end up as is a low SP glorified school shooter with unrealistic ambitions of beating the many, many enemies you took from your flaws.Good thing he's going to improve on the math for Exalted Conquest, so Conqueror anons won't run into the same problem
>>97740404Surviovrship bias
>>97740417On top of this, the endgame is a horror story. Even if you somehow win, you just end up wandering from world to world, committing genocides you have no personal stake while fucking a harem of animated corpses who are forced to love you and want to have your babies for some reason. Sure, no one can stop you but you can't ever stop hand enjoy your life to any real degree either.All this so you can come in fourth place in a "who sucks daddy's dick the best" contest. See, entropist would have much more interesting if you're an independent operator not dependent on daddy's dick to fuel your school shooter powers. You could make a complex and nuanced moral choice - how many do I need to kill for the powers I need to save the rest - but instead you basically go in knowing that if one of your dumb flaws dosen't kill everyone you care about, the very source of your power will get them anyway. It's an elaborate psychological trap that I would describe as beautifully engineering to expose the vanity of violent power fantasies if there was literally any evidence that entropistanon was in on the joke.
>>97740493>wandering from world to world, committing genocides you have no personal stake while fucking a harem of animated corpses who are forced to love you and want to have your babies for some reasonABSOLUTE KINO
>>97740481This only works if the lore mentions past auctors who died and got replaced by the stronger ones, but it doesn't. All of the relic fused Auctors were the originator of their clans.
>>97740460>Good thing he's going to improve on the math for Exalted Conquest, so Conqueror anons won't run into the same problemI'm really looking forward to it. "Conquest" in the abstract is a much better pitch for the chud fantasy that just "mass murder." When you conquer something, you're making that moral tradeoff - is it worth destroying what's already here for what I'm going to build? Entropist's fatal philosophical flaw is that it wants to be about being a cool sexy immortal on one hand and serving death and destruction on the other and those are not compatible goals.
>>97740493>you just end up wandering from world to world, committing genocides you have no personal stake while fucking a harem of animated corpses who are forced to love you and want to have your babies for some reason.Stop, I can only get so erect
>>97740493Nta, and I know you're shitposting, but have you even read the Cyoa?
>>97740493You maybe a filthy namefag but you're spitting facts.
>>97740404Merlin ate a Magic Tree, Nightingale is the one with the 3rd relic
>>97740412All good CYOAs have waifu bait.
>>97740505Have you considered that creating your own form of magic is hard as hell, and most people who try to do it, like Ishanvi's old master, fucking die without even achieving it, and even 2 of the Auctors who "succeeded" still ended up possessed and replaced by something else?
>>97740457>>97740500>>97740507I'm giving it a hard time but Entropist is legit great stuff. It's a fantasy most people are too cowardly to cater to, skillfully executed to the point that you can totally ignore the fact that it secretly fucks you over.>>97740510Yeah, I actually wrote a whole-ass short story based on it and how realistic people would interact with the nightmare that it implies.>>97740513Don't let the name fool you, I'd be a faggot as an anon, too.
>>97740536Nah, I'd ascend.
>>97740505NTA but the auctors were built different even before the relic so it's not too surprising.
>>97740514That still falls under the "conventionally placed mcguffin" umbrella, which is one of the hallmark of bad writing. You can only say "So this character ate/absorbed this super duper speshul item that made them super duper speshul" before the reader rolls their eyes in annoyance.
>>97740544>Yeah, I actually wrote a whole-ass short story based on it and how realistic people would interact with the nightmare that it implies.I don't care about Entropist but you can't say that without posting a link.
>>97740536From a meta perspective that limit was only placed by Italics because he wanted to justify his insertion of so many ridiculous Mcguffins.
>>97740550But it's okay when Cuttlefish does it?
>>97740544>Yeah, I actually wrote a whole-ass short story based on it and how realistic people would interact with the nightmare that it implies.Then you should know that Father Entropy by himself doesn't kill people, that the harem isn't particularly of animated corpses forced to love you, and that if you want you can just spend time killing demons and demiurges, without killing a single human and ignoring completely the Father.
>>97740536The relicfags are doing everything involved on easy mode, so of course they make up a portion of all AuctorsI'm surprised more of them aren't desu
>>97740567>You can be boring
>>97740576Ford coping like mad rn
>>97740550>old character who wants to get powerful>spends years looking for plant to get more powerfulWhy is this bad writing? Also, on Drac's case, she was an experiment that the biggest organization of the world could do it with their relics. Ostane was part said organization too and got lucky, that part could i admit is kinda iffy.
>>97740550At the end of the day, it's a story, some contrivances are a given. I don't think 'some auctors managed to successfully absorb a relic' is particularly plot breaking.
>>97740576>YOU CAN'T USE LE HEKKING MAGIC ITEM IN THE MAGIC SETTING THAT'S CHEATING
>>97740567>Then you should know that Father Entropy by himself doesn't kill peopleNo, he just gives you magic that requires you to kill people to make it work. I supposed there's always the option of sitting around with my thumb up my ass and doing nothing.>that the harem isn't particularly of animated corpses forced to love youA majority of Gifts are some form of undead. If dressing up a corpse like a realdoll is sexy enough for you more power to you but I'm not a necro file.>and that if you want you can just spend time killing demons and demiurges, without killing a single human and ignoring completely the Father.You can in theory do these things and you'll always end up a weaker Son than someone who just murders everyone they meet. Getting Planeswalk alone is 50 SP, which is 250,000 people at that's assuming you use 0 souls to kill those 250,000 people and literally no one tries to stop you. Do you know 250,000 demiurges? Do you really think, even in Entropists fiction, that there are 250,000 demons and demiurges on Earth alone?
>>97740563The sephira and sealed artifacts have their place in the lore of LoTM. In fact they enhance it. Each has their own lore, strengths, weaknesses and roles. The setting wouldn't be the same without them unlike Magic Case relics which have no role beyond making a character arbitrarily stronger and could be removed from the story with no effects whatsoever. In the end its all about good writing, you can insert Mcguffins into your story without making it so jarring.
>>97740620>>97740585I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but we have to acknowledge that they have a massive advantage over everyone else
>>97740600Wow these loli auctors sure are lucky. They all stumble on these powerful objects that propell them to absolute power. Surely it isn't because a certain weeb author's plot contrivance to make his donut steel mary sue magical girl obsession a reality? No it can't be...
>>97740621>No, he just gives you magic that requires you to kill people to make it work. I supposed there's always the option of sitting around with my thumb up my ass and doing nothing.Yes, you said your power source will kill your dears, he want.>A majority of Gifts are some form of undead. If dressing up a corpse like a realdoll is sexy enough for you more power to you but I'm not a necro file.They aren't animated corpses, they weren't alive reanimated people, they were created from concepts.Also aesthetically they don't resemble corpses, all in all if you want to call them corpses you are just being pretty arbitrary.>Do you know 250,000 demiurges? Demiurges souls are worth a lot.>250,000 demons Perfectly possible, hells are big and connected, and again most of their souls are worh moreAlso I personally am willing to sacrifice utterly evil people like the shadow legion, who EA mentioned are worth about as many souls as the earth's inhabithants, while also all being 3x with Feast of Evil.
>>97740630Their point of the relics in Magi Case is not making a character stronger, they're mainly an excuse or the whole Drac lab rat sob story. Pissing f the powerfags was just a verywelcome bonus.
Finally tried read Magi Case.Drac seems cute but the CYOA really wasn't for me, I honestly found it pretty boring, with little choices to be had, and mostly just lore to read.
>>97740706the shitalics classic
>>97740706*tried to read.
>>97740667All the Auctors were lucky to find themselves in their situation. Devil is either the 2nd or 3rd strongest and has no relic, Nightingale has one but she's not particularly strong, Ford was wanked hard and has no relic, so does the vampire Auctor. If you wanna complain about lolis being strong, might as well complain why is there women fighting or doing anything important instead of being like IRL. The peak male fantasy is one where women are competent and powerful.
>>97740706>Drac seems cute>Fell for it award
>>97740717>women are competent and powerfulBut still following my orders and my dick.
>>97740717I'm reminded of that anon who said Magi Case was a feminist story(in some places)
>>97740722Yes, anon, that's part of the fantasy. If you don't want that, you can simply marry one of the meek mages presented instead, or none at all.
>>97740725Don't start.
>>97740404>and who else?Hagia and maybe Vasilisa
>>97740673>Yes, you said your power source will kill your dears, he want.Answer me this - has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?>They aren't animated corpses, they weren't alive reanimated people, they were created from concepts.Then why call them "Death Knights," "Liches," and "Vampires" instead of "Knights," "Mages," and "Hot Chicks?" I got no right to kink-shame, but I'll stick to Blossom, thanks, instead of asking the cosmic undertaker to make me a girlfriend.>Also aesthetically they don't resemble corpses, all in all if you want to call them corpses you are just being pretty arbitrary.Yeah, personal preference is often arbitrary. I think many people have a personal preference not to fuck anything that might even remotely be a corpse. If you're not one of those people my condolences and best of luck.>Demiurges souls are worth a lot.So how many demiurges are on Earth, how many of them can you realistically kill with starting SP, and how much is each one worth?>Perfectly possible, hells are big and connected, and again most of their souls are worh moreYeah, because they're hard to get to and they fight back. A newbie Son taking on Hell by himself is bead. A Son who spends decades murdering helpless people first is more likely to succeed. Do you know how incentives work?>Also I personally am willing to sacrifice utterly evil people like the shadow legion, who EA mentioned are worth about as many souls as the earth's inhabithants, while also all being 3x with Feast of Evil.And you can take the whole Shadow Legion with starter powers?
>>97740725lmao
>>97740725I'm unaware of that, can you link or post it?
>>97739466NTA but putting his retardation aside it does let you skip ahead which can be useful in some cases
>>97740717>Devil is either the 2nd or 3rd strongest and has no relic>Ford was wanked hard and has no relicFunny you mentioned these. They were both curb stomped by relic-fused lolis. Which brings us back to the Italics' mary sue little girls obsession theory. >The peak male fantasy is one where women are competent and powerful.I agree with you. If only the "women" in this case weren't 1 dimensional cardboard weeb-baits that serve no purpose than making lolifags jerk off.
>>97740752> putting his retardation asideI swear to god you guys are gaslighting me again.
>>97740751Starts here https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94263615/#q94268977Continues here https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94268639/#q94269071
>>97740748>Answer me this - has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?I don't know, probably those who posted image build?>Then why call them "Death Knights," "Liches," and "Vampires" instead of "Knights," "Mages," and "Hot Chicks?" I got no right to kink-shame, but I'll stick to Blossom, thanks, instead of asking the cosmic undertaker to make me a girlfriend.Because they're the apotheosis of a summon tree? I still think it's pretty forced to say being that have never died, biologically are living and mentally are sapient are corpses, but you do you.>So how many demiurges are on Earth, how many of them can you realistically kill with starting SP, and how much is each one worth?If you take the event there is immediately one, and demiurges job immensely to Sons, so you would be able to kill it pretty easily.>Yeah, because they're hard to get to Moloch is organizing a portal with the event, use that>and they fight backdemons too job immensely to son (a single spirit roost blast one shots Moloch)>And you can take the whole Shadow Legion with starter powersThe whole? No.I can ambush them with Astra and wittle them down while gathering souls to get stronger, again a fraction of them is enough.
>>97740725That's nonsense. You shouldn't conflate weebs fetishizing falsely strong women with genuine feminism. I save "falsely strong" because their strength is a merely an incentive for the player's sexual needs. In end despite all of their strength, their true purpose is always to end up on the MCs dick.
>>97740786They're not falsely strong since we can't beat them without the D.
>>97740748>>97740783>has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?Did I develop sudden dyslexia, or is this incomprehensible?
>>97740754>They were both curb stomped by relic-fused lolisYes, they were beaten by the 2 strongest characters, they are still mad strong, one of them is doing things actively even, instead of rotting and doing nothing, like many mages.>If only the "women" in this case weren't 1 dimensional cardboard weeb-baitsWhat do you want from a character? For them to have 3 pages of backstory, a phone list of enemies and allies, and 500 objetives planned? Some people are more simple than others, it's not a bad thing. One of them was even put into power without even wanting it and you expect suddenly her to turn into a super ambitious megalomaniac?I do admit that the top 2 (unless you believe Devil>Ostane, which is not an insane belief) are loli bait, but that's just a design the author likes, no different than making the top 3 all muscular men, sexy booba women, or eldritch beings. But i don't think I'll see you complaining about "eldritchfags" or "musclefags".
>>97740766huh wait am I the retard? can someone fucking help me understand if 2x30 is faster or slower than 1x30 my brain just stopped working like it's some kind of infohazard
>>97740802I answered trying to understand it as>Has anyone really went as far as deciding what they want to look like?But I get you.
>>97740798Wrong. Sexual and mental domination can achieve the exact same thing as the physical one. I'm willing to bet that you could make Drac kill herself with a bit of manipulation and gaslighting.
>>97740805>unless you believe Devil>Ostane, which is not an insane beliefIt's a deranged belief
>>97740805Anon. Magi Case is dogshit. Give up.
>>97740813If we're not exchanging blow for blow until Chaldea is a crater I'm not interested.More seriously, gaslighting and manipulation works for everyone from Drac to Dido. I think it's the automatic sexual submission that could make them "false", not being vulnerable to things everyone are.
>>97740813It's not "sexual domination", it's called having a faithful and supporting partner. Anons that say Auctors becomes their mind controlled cum addicted slave forever are just trolling or coping. They are just married to you, they don't become your dog, nothing in the CYOA indicates otherwise.
>>97740847There is a non-zero chance Anons think having a wife and a mind controlled cum addicted slave is the same thing.
>>97740748>And you can take the whole Shadow Legion with starter powers?nta but Alta can solo them + the Paladin at the same time. You can pick her as your starter gift, she can take out the entire Shadow Legion on her own, then you can come in and pick up their souls with Echoed Roar. Or Soul Magic Seance if you want to harvest them from far away/a few days after they die. The shadow legion is roughly equivalent to all of Earth in terms of soul value (around 8 billion souls), so it would be much more efficient to target them then go reaping every single person you meet.
>>97740837All fiction is dogshit, i still can enjoy it.
>>977408102x faster within means I can do twice as much stuff in the same amount of real world time.
>>97740853Anons' retarded ideas don't make for valid criticisms, nor they should make your enjoyment of a work decrease. You CAN enjoy a CYOA everyone here hates, right anon?
>>97740847>trolling
>>97740858>Alta can solo them + the PaladinNta, Alta can solo the leader of the legion+the paladin at once, not the entire legion.
>>97740847>>97740853Marriage rings/my penis are mind control>Said coomer anons
>>97740805The character of "The Strongest" is often make or break in media, especially anime. JJK wouldn't be nearly as popular without Gojo and Sukuna. Meruem and Netero brought HxH to a whole new level. Escanor single handedly saved his series.In comparison a depressed loli with daddy issues is simply embarrassing from a character writing perspective.
hypothetically, if I walked up to Drac and poked her boob what would happen?
>>97740876Of course not. All my enjoyment comes from talking to people ITT - CYOAs are just excuses. If you're not enjoying it, I will play something more accepted by the thread. Even in solo CYOAs I pick options that will make me interact with the most anons because I'm building for engagement as your attention brings me happiness.Hum. I wonder if someone thinks that without a shred of irony.Jokes asides, do you have an example about a CYOA everyone here hates?
>>97740847>>97740853Don't pretend that shitalicslop doesn't cater to that exact same demographic.
>>97740888of course it was a shonenspic all along
>>97740906>Hum. I wonder if someone thinks that without a shred of irony.Cock- I mean Tok.
>>97740912All this discussion about powerscaling and being the STRONGEST didn't clue you in?
>>97740904Depends what your relationship with her is like
>>97740912Are you unironically trying to argue that Magi Case isn't a shonen cyoa? What next? Shitalics is a good author?
>>97740802>>97740812It's a meme, I'm pointing out that I didn't understand him at all.>>97740783>Because they're the apotheosis of a summon tree? I still think it's pretty forced to say being that have never died, biologically are living and mentally are sapient are corpses, but you do you.By defintion a "Death Knight" or a "Lich" or a "Vampire" has died at some point. I agree the text is ambigious but as I already pointed out fucking corpses is enough of a turn off for me that I'll wait for the next CYOA.>If you take the event there is immediately one, and demiurges job immensely to Sons, so you would be able to kill it pretty easily.So any son with 10 SP can take a demiurge?>Moloch is organizing a portal with the event, use thatAnd Moloch is so stupid that a 10 SP son can fuck his whole army?>demons too job immensely to son (a single spirit roost blast one shots Moloch)Then why did no other Son deal with moloch first? Why do other demons listen to him at all? You can have this kind of stuff but it steadily erodes the setting.>The whole? No.So why doesn't the whole just take you out once they realize what you are and what you're trying to do?>I can ambush them with Astra and wittle them down while gathering souls to get stronger, again a fraction of them is enough.I see the Shadow Legion is also smart enough to take over the world but not smart enough to fight one guy with limited powers.>>97740880>Nta, Alta can solo the leader of the legion+the paladin at once, not the entire legion.This is also assuming that both of them are really really dumb and will walk into an obvious trap instead of just hiring guys with sniper rifles to take you out from afar.
>>97740912>Whole discussion about being le strongest.>He just now realising it all shonenslop.Anon you may be retarded.
>>97740888>BUT MY SHONEN SLOP>BUT MUH POPULARITYAh, so I was just wasting words, thanks for the warning. It is pretty damn hilarious that you believe the media you mentioned has any characters with "depth" though.
>>97740929>Are you unironically trying to argue that Magi Case isn't a shonen cyoa?Yes, it's target demographic is mature gentleman>See the fact that most non-jobber waifus will only marry old fucks
>>97740945The discussion was about the guy coping about lolis, not some powerscalling nonsense. Also a shonenslopper calling any character "1 dimsenional" is peak irony.
>>97740948>Likes shitalicslop.>Claims to know what depth is.You wouldn't recognize quality writing if it it fucked you in ass.
>>97740958>See the fact that most non-jobber waifus will only marry old fucksI honestly don't think Magi Case is all that bad, but what the FUCK did Italics meant by this? Why is this a thing?
stop fighting anons :(
>>97740942Nta but demiurges and demons have a disadvantage against the sons and the shadow legion must find a son and his philacteries to defeat him, it's like the wizard cooperating with the government being a major problem even if he's far weaker than a son
>>97740969>if it it fucked you in assGood morning sirs
>>97740982it's the nature of anons to fight, for an anon to not fight is like for a fish to not swim
>>97740963NTA but I'm pretty sure the discussion was about Anons explaining that Drac as a person didn't matter because she was the strongest so a roadblock for the title.
>>97740963Full Metal Alchemist is a shonen cyoa. It is better than whatever hot diarrhea you consume on a daily basis.
>>97740982I can't interact normally.
>>97740989>[Character] as a person doesn't matter because they are the strongestNo one ACTUALLY believes this, right?
>>97740974Idk. Italics' secretly boomer cuckold fetish maybe.
>>97741005You sweet summer child...
>>97741005Powerfags do, that's what we were talking about
>>97741000>cyoa*anime
>>97740942>By defintion a "Death Knight" or a "Lich" or a "Vampire" has died at some point. I agree the text is ambigious but as I already pointed out fucking corpses is enough of a turn off for me that I'll wait for the next CYOA.We know they haven't, as they were spoken into existance by Father Entropy, but understandable. I just think Exalted Conquest will be far more ruthless.>So any son with 10 SP can take a demiurge?The lesser demiurge? Probably, EA mentioned how we would curbstomp the idea of evil and the Godhand in Berserk.>And Moloch is so stupid that a 10 SP son can fuck his whole army?Moloch wasn't planning for Son existance in the plane he was attacking, and Sons snowball.>Then why did no other Son deal with moloch first?Because Moloch never fought a Son and is stronger than most demons.In this setting rock paper scissors is a serious thing, to the point the most powerful demons keep tempered heroes in personalized heavens to use them as anti-sons weapons. We would stomp the godhand but lose to Guts.>So why doesn't the whole Because following me in the dreamlands while I have a god on my side, and keep gathering power, while they're wounded and weakened, is pretty difficult.>I see the Shadow Legion is also Earth is extremely weak as a magicless world.>This is also assuming that both of them are really really dumbWhat trap? EA said this>Alta could beat the leader of the Shadow Legion andthe Paladin atthe same time, provided they weren't working together. She could interfere in their match and walk away victorious. It wouldn't be easy, it would take a while and she would end up severely injured, as it would beyond the limit of the strength she starts off with (she'll get stronger over time). But she'd go full anime protagonist in a desperate battle, power through, and actually improve as the fight goes on, until she'd be capable enough to kill them both. She'd come out much more powerful than beforealso tech does badly against magic.
>>97740974For the Auctors it makes sense. They're grannies, so they want to marry grandpas.
>>97741005Its actually the opposite. A characters appearance and personality should reflect their title as the strongest. In this case (heh), sadly Drac doesn't.
>>97740983>Nta but demiurges and demons have a disadvantage against the sonsYeah, but less of a disadvantage as random people with no knowledge of the supernatural. If people know about Sons, they take efforts to stop or control them.>and the shadow legion must find a son and his philacteries to defeat himThey don't need to defeat him, just starve him of souls long enough that he can't do shit against them. If he's unwilling to hurt random people that's a lot easier.>t's like the wizard cooperating with the government being a major problem even if he's far weaker than a sonWhat?On a narrative level, either these foes are threats or they're not. If they're not, then the question becomes why no one else has taken them out first. If they are, the question becomes how you expect to take them with limited experience and powers. You could always just make Sons stronger by default but the text does not support that.
>>97741028No, I don't want everyone's final form to be a fucking crab.
>>97741005Powerfags are already operating under "[Thing] doesn't so long as I have power/I get stronger". Of course it makes sense to them.
>>97733715after reading the pathways all I can say is why the fuck do they even tolerate some of these? feels like a good half should be locked up forever with only a handful available
>>97733715>The CosmosAre those special Sequences just there to inform us what the gods are able to do, or we can enter those pathways?
Wait I'm confused. Are Shitalicsfags genuinely trying to claim the high ground and pretend that Magi Case is somehow a superior media to the things it is clearly inspired by? It is literally a fucking fate ripoff, and a heavily inferior one at that lmao. Always funny seeing shitalics and his cronies coping so hard.
>>97740827That matchup list wasn't posted by Italics, someone just made it up.
>>97741043>why the fuck do they even tolerate some of these?Depending on which ones you're talking about, they don't really have a choiceThey don't want to and try to supress them but criminals don't ask for permission to commit crimes you knowAlso a lot of them gained power back when things were way more chaotic and most of the current gods weren't gods yet
>>97741058You could state your opinion without parroting that Tok nickname around.
>>97741020>Because Moloch... is stronger than most demons.Do we have any proof of that? Earth is a backwater on the multiversal fringes with minimal energy, and the Demiurge is specifically a weak and injured one. I suspect Moloch is the demonic equivalent and has no reason not to cut his losses and fuck off immediately, but his ego is too immense to allow it. The most damning indictment is the jew cult circumcision thing. What happens to circumcised Sons? I mean obviously Moloch can't collect but that itself is a demonic brand. Now that I think of it, the Hound event would probably kill a metric fuckload of American nurses and doctors in the infant circumcision lobby.
>>97741057keep reading
>>97741020>We know they haven't, as they were spoken into existance by Father Entropy, but understandable. I just think Exalted Conquest will be far more ruthless.This only makes them less fuckable for me. If I want a realdoll I will buy one, If I want a minion I will keep it busy doing minion things and not realdoll things.>The lesser demiurge? Probably, EA mentioned how we would curbstomp the idea of evil and the Godhand in Berserk.Okay, but I'm working with the CYOA, not what EA said vaguely at some point.>Moloch wasn't planning for Son existance in the plane he was attacking, and Sons snowball.Then Moloch is stupid and poorly written and this makes me enjoy the fantasy less.>Because Moloch never fought a Son and is stronger than most demons.Then why does he not retreat immediately when faced with something he does not understand that always kicks his ass? Again, you can have stupid villains but this only makes the setting less credible for me.>In this setting rock paper scissors is a serious thing, to the point the most powerful demons keep tempered heroes in personalized heavens to use them as anti-sons weapons. We would stomp the godhand but lose to Guts.So then why does Moloch not break out Guts the moment he realizes he's losing and deny you access to the souls you need to progress?>Earth is extremely weak as a magicless world.So then the Shadow Legion is a paper tiger, designed explicitly by authorial fiat to feed souls to squeamish Sons. That may be satisfying to you but it's not to me.
>>97741057See Boon Recipient on page 5.
>>97741038Yes you do.
what matters isn't power but how "yaoified" they are or have the ability to be
>>97741064>Tok nicknamewhat? shitalics? why is he somehow exempt from mocking? All authors get degrading nicknames. That's just how things work around here.
>>97741073Are you ever going to post your short story? Come on, I'm bored. I wanna read it
>>97741098>Come on, I'm bored. I wanna read itNo, because it requires connecting my AO3 pseudonym with my 4chan name and I was raised insanely paranoid about connecting anything online.
>>97741107NTA but you're an unknown to this thread; I heavily doubt anyone will recall YOU wrote this ten minutes after reading it.
>>97741107Just copypaste it on rentry retard.
>>97741107What if you copy and paste it into a rentry?
>>97741043if they don't want them someone else will get thembook 2 ends with MToD getting tenebrous world because they coudn't get a real father of devils in time
>>97741123>NTA but you're an unknown to this thread; I heavily doubt anyone will recall YOU wrote this ten minutes after reading it.Good. Anything I have of value to say will stick in people's minds without my identity. Anything that sticks in peoples minds because of my identity is likely of no value. I tripfag because I want to encourage longer term conversations despite the reasonable hate, not because I think I am important or that my opinions should benefit from my identity.
>>97741142>GoodSo you will post the story? Through a rentry or otherwise?
>>97740297Oh sure, lots of respect. Btw this is the strongest character in FGO.
>>97741126>>97741128NTA, but if you know a fanfic's content, you can easily find it's author.
>>97741150Way more visually interesting than Drac imo.
>>97741160Not the point, the point is that she's a goofy girlfailure dressed as a clown.
>>97741148>Loli has so much random shit glued to her you can barely tell she's a loliPedos are weird, man.
>>97741160Work on your bait
>>977411603/10, try again
>>97733715FINE, I'll pick LOTM back up.Klein drank the Clown potion in my memories. How long until it start being interesting?
>>97741043>>97741139I feel like the number of very evil paths is very small. Demoness has a lot of bad powers sure, but especially when balanced by Red Priest it can be used positively. Same with Black Emperor, especially if it's used against already unjust laws and countries, and Justicar balances it out in the end anyway. Chained is made up of intensely negative curses, but it also represents sealing and restraint, and you can protect people from bad curses or direct your curses at bad people. This holds true for pretty much every path, even if you might need to get your hands dirty a little when advancing. The only Pathway that's just raw evil with zero redemption no matter how you look at it is, of course, Abyss, and not even Father of Devils being tempered by Chained can fix it, since advancing in Abyss irrevocably makes you a horrible monster. Like anon is saying, the only reason you tolerate a Father of Devils is because MToD getting it is way, way, worse than merely a Father of Devils, as evil as they would be. Also the obvious power move in the CYOA for Sefirah that don't have a GOO yet and don't get one in canon is to try and get one of your partners to that position, and the best you can hope for in regards to Father of Devils is that the person you put in that seat is yandere for you so at least their desires might align with you and your goals most of the time.
>>97741148There is no story. This guy was questioning how the demons wouldn't kill a Son, said the Shadow Legion should use sniper rifles to shoot you (when any level of magic makes you immune to guns), and assumed 250,000 Demiurge and Demon souls would be equal to 250,000 human souls. It's unlikely he read the cyoa, let alone wrote something for it.
>>97741065Yes, I was saying why demons obeyed him, as he was asking, because he's relatively powerful, not that he is the be all end all.>>97741073>If I want a minion I will keep it busy doing minion things and not realdoll things.Then take the Lonely drawback>but I'm working with the CYOAThen follow what the Cyoa says, that Sons are natural predator of demiurges, EA just contestualized that>Then Moloch is stupid and poorly writtenSons didn't exist until today on earth, he was unlucky>Then why does he not retreat immediately when faced with something he does not understand that always kicks his ass?By WOG he will try to treat, but if he sees things go south I would imagine he will try to escape, yeah.>then why does Moloch not break out GutsIf he was that big of a deal he wouldn't be attacking earth, he's a local power.>So then the Shadow Legion is a paper tiger, designed explicitly by authorial fiat to feed souls to squeamish SonsAll events are designed to be treath but also occasions.
>>97741165>>97741170>baitSaying shitalic's shit is shit, is not bait. It's fact.
>>97741163If you were trying to quote the picture of Olga, she is literally a grown ass woman in her 20's. You stupid moralfaggot retards can't even spot a loli.
>>97741150she's bottom 3 beasts albeit
>>97741183Near the end of the Tingen Nighthawks arc.
>>97741203She is literally the strongest Beast in canon, senpai.
>>97741190Can't a chained accomodate father of devil without abyss?
>>97741203>bottoming for three beasts at oncelol, lmao
>>97741210nuh uh
>>97741210People are supposed to be afraid of this exhibitionist?
>>97741211A Chained can accommodate the Sefirah, Tenebrous World, without Abyss. But that wouldn't make them fully the GOO Father of Devils. To become the GOO, they would need to advance Father of Devils to 0. Now you can theoretically try and jump straight to Abyss 0, but even if you can tank the madness, becoming a Devil instantly deletes your morality and moral compass and makes you embrace your desires and urges and negative compulsions without restraint. There's literally a partner in the Abyss Pathway who tried to cheat Abyss like this and he ended up a psychopath Devil all the same. Which is why I said the absolute best you can do is have a yandere, whose deepest and darkest desires all revolve around you, so at least she might be directable or restrainable in some fashion.
>>97741203I would say she's stronger than Camazotz, but him defeating ORT is a nonsensical feat.Beside him I would argue she's stronger than Tiamat, and possibly than Draco.Goetia is Goetia and Maris is so much bigger she's just a component of it, unless her NP3 means something.>>97741237Nta but once accomodated the Tenbrous world you could accomodate abyss without accomodating the previous characteristics as a foundation as you already have the sefirot, so have only to handle its corruption.
>>97741237I was only saying to occupy the sefirah from any abyss
>shonenfags>fatefags>tripfags>italicsfags>entropistfagscan this thread get any worse?
>>97741252Tok hasn't shown up yet.
>>97741252We need danmachi GAWDS to save it
>>97741194>This guy was questioning how the demons wouldn't kill a SonAre demons a real threat or not? If they job to one guy with Eldritch Blast then why are they worth points? If they don't, you have to have something better that "Natural predator lol" to beat them.>said the Shadow Legion should use sniper rifles to shoot you (when any level of magic makes you immune to guns), If that that's the case what's the value in Phylactery or Spirit Armor or Barrier or any of the many powers that protect you from mundane harm?>and assumed 250,000 Demiurge and Demon souls would be equal to 250,000 human souls. Are there really 250,000 souls worth of demiurges and demons you can fight with 10 SP alone and nothing else? If so, this cosmology is retarded and EA is many things but retarded is not one of them.>It's unlikely he read the cyoa, let alone wrote something for it.I've made specific reference to the text. You can accuse me of not understanding it, that's fine, but I have in fact read it at least once.>>97741196>Then take the Lonely drawbackI still need Blossom, man, be reasonable.>Then follow what the Cyoa says, that Sons are natural predator of demiurges, EA just contestualized thatYeah, but that does not mean that any Son can beat any demiurge.>Sons didn't exist until today on earth, he was unluckyMan, what an exciting fantasy, getting lucky!>By WOG he will try to treat, but if he sees things go south I would imagine he will try to escape, yeah.If he's not retarded then he escapes before you can harvest anything like 250,000 demon souls and you're left with the same problem you started out with - murder people or do nothing.>If he was that big of a deal he wouldn't be attacking earth, he's a local power.Local powers don't need to be dumb, and have a long history of getting the fuck out of dodge when bigger powers show up.>All events are designed to be treath but also occasions.English, please speak it.
>>97741252be glad she isn't here.
>>97741252Your least favorite author was, in fact, your mother.
>>97741252Don't temp fate. Someone might post, may God forgive me for saying it, Danmachi
>>97741267I can still sense it... That strong exotic scent...
If this stuff about demons and demiurges is true, why do Entropistfags even bother with genociding people?
>>97741287Because that's the point of the CYOA. Everything else is "safe horny" for the need to harm others to feel powerful. This is what makes the CYOA great and provocative and worth discussing.
>>97741287It's faster to kill a bunch of powerless people on earth than it is to wait for Moloch to open a portal. After you get your first world under your belt... yeah there's not really a reason to genocide when you and your armies can fight demons instead. Other than looking for specific souls for Essence Enchant or Reverberating Harpoon I guess.
>>97741287The souls, the mana - secondary concerns compared to the fantasy, dare I say THE EDGE of killing everyone ever.
>>97741287Because they're right here, you can't instantly go to hell and feast, and there's not enough Demiurges on Earth for everyone.
>>97741287i'm evil nigga
>>97741263>I still need Blossom, man, be reasonableYou can take Lonely for only one SP to have a single gift still loving you.>Yeah, but that does not mean that any Son can beat any demiurge.Yeah, it's even referenced how the Harpoon (our offensively strongest power) is used to hunt grand demiurges, luckily the one near earth is a wounded lesser demiurge>Man, what an exciting fantasy, getting lucky!Yes? I don't know you but I never felt like I deserved the power I got in a CYOA, I was lucky.>If he's not retarded then he escapesI'd guess he entered a sunk cost fallacy after his efforts to harvest earth>Local powers don't need to be dumbYes, I was explaining why he doesn't have tempered heroes
>>97741315Hello, Evil Black Gentleman. I'm Dad.
>You can take Lonely for only one SP to have a single gift still loving you.Sure, but that's worth 2SP, which is barely enough to buy one upgrade to one power I need to be a psycho to keep using at all.>Yeah, it's even referenced how the Harpoon (our offensively strongest power) is used to hunt grand demiurges, luckily the one near earth is a wounded lesser demiurgeReverberating Harpoon is 60% of the SP I start with on a single power that has limited value against 99% of the threats I'm facing. I'm sure high-level Sons use it to deal with demiurges but I'm not a high-level Son, I'm a cuckson so weak I need to suck other Sons off for free points.>Yes? I don't know you but I never felt like I deserved the power I got in a CYOA, I was lucky.They say you get one big coincidence in a story before the audience loses interest. I'm not sure that this is true but being a Son at all is a huge amount of luck, being in just the right place to waltz through Hell on top of that is too boring even for me. >I'd guess he entered a sunk cost fallacy after his efforts to harvest earthWhich comes back to my first point, which is that if you need retarded enemies to be strong you're not really strong.>Yes, I was explaining why he doesn't have tempered heroesSo why doesn't he find some? Giving up Earth in exchange for killing a potentially planeswalking Son is a win-win for both him and the Mother.
>>97741287Evil entities don't have good stuff to loot or good land to conquer. Just corrupted trash and mutated hellscapes. They're more efficient and ethical to fight but have less tangible rewards.
>>97741375is a reply to >>97741321, sorry.
>>97741263> If so, this cosmology is retarded and EA is many things but retarded is not one of them.*Clears throat* Family values efilism.
>>97741384Look entropist at least seems smart and I like giving people the benefit of the doubt.
When you realize EA is a mexican, the la familia nihilism makes a lot more sense.
>>97741417latinos make the best cyoas
>Drac is a loliHuh? This is supposed to be a loli?
>>97741435I wasn't contesting that. Mirrorseeker is a mexican and his stuff is fantastic.
>>97741443do you think this looks like an adult or teenageryou weebs are legit mentally ill
>>97741417>>97741384I never understood this complaint. A Son will undoubtedly extinguish more lives than he creates, and besides, the children will use entropic powers as well. Like what's even the problem, that the evil guy has a culture of being nice to his own faction?
>>97740404Devil is the 3rd strongest mage and he did it without a relic. Ager did it without a relic. You don't NEED a relic to be the strongest mage.Drac was already a powerful mage anyways because of her magic autism.
>Vast Majority of Auctors aren't even relicfagsBros??? Our agenda?
>>97741474There's a ludonarrative dissonance to it, is all. It's like how Pathfinder has a god of pain and mercy, which are mutually opposed concepts but he extropolates that into martyrdom. Adds character if anything albeit the soul eating genocidal demigods being incentivized to raise large, happy families in their own paradise realms is contrary to what most readers would expect. I think the contrast is a big part of why people are still discussing Entropist. Exalted Conquest is honestly my Magi Case, the huge WIP we knew nothing of and will never see but maybe, just maybe, will release someday. I cannot wait to see the retardation once anons are expected to leverage actual tactics against each other while on a level starting field.
>>97741499>Most female Auctors are relicfags>All male Auctors are self-madeWe've got a new agenda
>>97741263>Are demons a real threat or not? If they job to one guy with Eldritch Blast then why are they worth points?I assume you mean worth souls when you say worth points, since the event does not give you sp. They're threats to 90% of people, just not to a Son and (to a lesser extent) other entropic magic users. A guy with just Eldritch Blast could reliably kill weaker demons without much trouble, but would be blitzed by the stronger ones unless he has something like Spirit Armor or stat boosts. Type advantages aren't insurmountable, since Soleac's description mentions him killing a few Tempered Heroes, but Moloch isn't on the level that he could pick a fight with a Son.If you want a more 'dangerous' event to start with, go with Grim, the True Goddess, or Nascent Machine. Hellish Link is probably the easiest event, other than maybe Chosen of Silence. >If that's the case what's the value in Phylactery or Spirit Armor or Barrier or any of the many powers that protect you from mundane harm?Materials from a nonmagical world are worthless against anything a Son has - the lore doc says Spirit Armor would block a nuke, but even if you only use content in the cyoa itself, the notes section says Black Dragons are immune to all man-made weapons on earth but could be killed by someone with an enchanted sword. The powers you listed are still very useful, but there are no nonmagic 'threats'.>Are there really 250,000 souls worth of demiurges and demons you can fight with 10 SP alone and nothing else?I'm not sure why you'd only have 10 SP. Is the Son trying to kill Moloch on his first day? I doubt a Son with only 10 SP could harvest a lot of any kind of souls in a short time frame, but they could start with Koryuu as their Gift and she'd get them to max sp within days.>I've made specific reference to the text. You can accuse me of not understanding it, that's fine, but I have in fact read it at least once.Fair enough, it was rude of me to assume.
>>97740888Gojo is depressed from being the strongest just like Drac loli, wtf.
>>97741520>Depressed loli with daddy issues>Depressed yaoi bait with doomed yaoi issuesThese are not the same
>>97741515Reminder: NONE of the female auctors finished proper schooling. Let that sink in.
>>97733715Error is the strongest LOM path and one of the strongest in general. Parasitism can completely control the host, and the biggest differences between it and marionettes are that the latter have range limits and cannot advance in sequence whereas the former can. Starting from s4, Error can simultaneously advance in as many paths and have as many hosts as it has avatars. Its has much more potential than the other two LOM paths.
>>97741443Yes. That is a childm
>>97739788https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Mythical_Creature_Form
>>97741484>Devil>Soul raped by a loli mary sue.>Ager >About to get temporally raped by a loli mary sue.You keep proving my point...
>Drac main issue is that she was born to be a tool and ended up getting sold out. Now she watches over a clan of retards because she feels responsible for them and has gone Mind of Steel eliminating selfishness and happiness for herself while telling others to pursue it. >She never wanted to be the strongest and cannot comprehend why others seek it so much even in her character dialogue and confrontation with Devil when people can be happy cherishing their moments with others and not sitting on a throne everyone worships you from.How are Anons missing the depth of such a straight forward character who is suffering from being the strongest?
>>97741512>I cannot wait to see the retardation once anons are expected to leverage actual tactics against each other while on a level starting field.Personally, I'm dreading it. As someone who prides himself on putting actual thought into the tactics and strategy I write for builds, and like reading what other people write, the inevitable "nah, I'd win, nuh-uh I'd win, jobber, jobber, jobber" spats are a headache I don't think I'm prepared for.
>>97741520Does he act like a moppy pathetic child tho? No, he's goofy and charming. That's what separates them.
>>97741570>Ager>About to get rapes by a lpliElspeth CANONICALLY loses to Ager IF you don't join her. It's outright stated in the CYOA.
>>97741537>t. Amon Rape Meat.
>>97741375>Reverberating Harpoon is 60% of the SP I start with on a single power that has limited value against 99% of the threats I'm facingFor the lesser demiurge you don't need it, if you don't buy it you won't be a grand demiurge hunter isn't a problem.>They say you get one big coincidence in a story before the audience loses interest. Then don't take the hell event?All in all I don't need to convince you, you don't like it and that's fine.
>>97741585>Elspeth CANONICALLY loses to Ager IF you don't join her. I wonder why Ager loses in this scenario. Are we betraying him?
>>97741573>She is sooooo le hecking sad and selfless, I'm crying white sticky tears!
>>97741573refer to the answers of >>97739782
>>97741605>selflessCongrats on not reading the post.
>>97741443You literally cannot tell even how tall she is, or even how she is built like because of the robes. But many anons have brain damage will call anyone who doesn't have boobs visibly bigger than their heads a loli.
>>97741585>>97741600She lacks her own relic to stand equal to her mary sue loli sisters. You're the perfect schmuck to get one for her.
>>97741600He trusted you, Anon. Why did you do it?
>>97741614Do you really need to fight Drac to be the strongest? I mean being the strongest meta wise is different from in universe. Bathory is declared the strongest Vampire.Devil is acknowleged to be Drac's equal because nobody knows he got his ass put to belt by her. They all seem to think they are tied.If you want to be the Strongest. You would need to be better than your Clan's founder in their field of magic.
>>97741631True, yet there's so many idiots who think the megalomaniac narcisist evil chick loves you. In a CYOA where there are dozens of better options, even.
>>97741638To be the STRONGEST you need to beat the current STRONGEST. Simple as.
>>97741516>They're threats to 90% of people, just not to a Son and (to a lesser extent) other entropic magic users. A guy with just Eldritch Blast could reliably kill weaker demons without much trouble, but would be blitzed by the stronger ones unless he has something like Spirit Armor or stat boosts. Type advantages aren't insurmountable, since Soleac's description mentions him killing a few Tempered Heroes, but Moloch isn't on the level that he could pick a fight with a Son.So again, Moloch must be retarded. The existence of non-Son entropists only makes that clearly - he either knows that entropic magic is a real threat or he did literally zero scouting before invading Earth.>The powers you listed are still very useful, but there are no nonmagic 'threats'.Spirit Armor costs at least 4 SP to be able to stop a sniper rifle. That's almost half the SP of an actual real-deal Son without taking flaws. Unless you think all Sons take Spirit Armor and all upgrades, it's wrong to claim "There are no nonmagic 'threats'" Black Dragons are pretty boss but they need to be aware of a threat to you and able to effectively act against it - an enemy (like most governments) capable of using a sniper and a nuke at the same time will kill you no matter which one your black dragon chooses to stop.>I'm not sure why you'd only have 10 SP. Is the Son trying to kill Moloch on his first day? I doubt a Son with only 10 SP could harvest a lot of any kind of souls in a short time frame, but they could start with Koryuu as their Gift and she'd get them to max sp within days.So if they're not fighting demiurges and demons on day one, the point I made clearly stands - you need to massacre mundanes to have enough power to take on real threats. I can allow that certain builds, like picking Koryuu first and hoping she can bring home enough souls to let me bootstrap, are less awful than just murdering randos...
>>97741600No. Ager is stronger than Elspeth. Elspeth needs You to be able to defeat Ager.
>>97741635Apparently I decided to trust the sociopathic backstabbing cunt that will sacrifice half the people she's sworn to protect for her megalomaniac delusions?
>Magi Case discussion AGAINWhy does this one CYOA get so much traction? Does any other one get as much discussion/shitposts in here?
>>97741642Elspeth loves you and you are her loving apprentice who she can mommy.
>>97741667Most of the big ones can have pockets of discussion sprouting randomly.
>>97741642Confirmed that she does as long as you're her student
>>97741670>My bad! But I'm cute so you'll forgive me, right?I refuse to believe anyone with a working braincell will hear this and follow along.
>>97741667it's beloved by 3rd worlder lolifags aka most of this general's population
>>97741474>>97741512The author is attaching his political agenda to the most ironic and heinous kind of villain possible. It's the conservative version of those reddit comics where they decide that Pennywise should be a gay rights icon.
>>97741516>>97741649...even the Koryuu is the loosest cannon in the list who's not secretly an agent of some other power. She'll gladly kill random people for souls, which brings us back to square 1.>Fair enough, it was rude of me to assume.No, not rude at all. Lots of stupid people have stupid opinions about stuff they've never read. It's on me to prove I have read it and that I can reason based on the CYOA instead of knee-jerk moral outrage.>>97741589>For the lesser demiurge you don't need itSo what do you need to take a lesser demiurge? You have 10 SP, maybe 20, post your build.>if you don't buy it you won't be a grand demiurge hunter isn't a problem.It's a problem if demiurges are my main source of souls and I need souls to get more powerful.>Then don't take the hell event?I take all of the events, I just want them to be real problems not excuses to grind.>All in all I don't need to convince you, you don't like it and that's fine.I do like it. I've made that clear several times. I like it specifically because of the problems I'm raising.
>>97741642>>97741665>>97741674I'll bite. Why do you guys think Elspeth is a narcissist kr meglomaniac when she has done nothing wrong and even friends with a blind cripple.
>>97741629>If I pretend to be retarded hard enough maybe they won't send me to pedo jail.
>>97741665>sociopathic backstabbing cunt that will sacrifice half the people she's sworn to protect for her megalomaniac delusions?She's just like anon frfr
>>97741667If you call being shit on 24/7 a "discussion" then sure.
>>977416883rd worlder shonenfags far outnumber 3rd world lolifags
>>97741701Ah, suddenly Elsepethfags make sense.
>>97741580That's even better. Easy victories for your own conquest, although nothing is guaranteed, a decent strategic IQ and robust build should hard-carry. Up until meeting other smart anons or local factions. Then it boils down to the vagaries of start location, who had the luck of gaining momentum faster, and who has the better counters for whomst'd've. The PvP seethe and autism will be delicious, of that, I have no doubt.
>>97741694>wants to kill a lot of innocents just so she can feel the pleasure of being the timeline againTotally non-sociopathic behavior
>>97741694It's not about what she's done, but what she willSpecifically, how her attempt to kill Ager will trigger a civil war that will result in half of all chronomancers dying if she succeeds and her being aware of them yet still going ahead with itSome anons consider the chronomancers worthwhile sacrifices, while others believe chronomancer lives matter
>>97741694Nothing. She's perfect for anons.
I'll never forget Italics for tainting the legacy of the original Elspeth by attaching her name to a shitty imitation.
>>97741724>original ElspethWhich one? The Perpetuance Protocol one?
>Sworn to protectRetardbros??? Elspeth as the Archmage does not have a dutt to protect her clan. In fact Magi Case outright says Auctors and Archmages have the right to do whatever they want to their clan members because they are cults.Remember Evoco Auctor raping daughters and eating sons?
Thanks for reminding me that Italics is going to add another version of Elspeth in ReduxHopefully you can marry both without harem contract
>>97741743>Remember Evoco Auctor raping daughters and eating sons?I can fix HER
>>97741743We're trying to paint her in a favorable light retard, don't bring Susano rape meat into it.
>>97741670Not even the prettiest loli, those fags just want evil chicks. They're just like IRL women who love to date thugs, we're really not that different, huh.
>>97741739Nay, older... forgotten by now, but it was the greatest of its day and age.
>>97741739yup
>>97741760>Anons have the mental process of womenSay sike right now.
Feels good to be a Lionheart Chad in Magi Caae and Hagia is a pure kind waifu with no drama.
>>97741767That CYOA kinda sucks because one option is vastly supperior than the others. Even in that one option, Omega or Mu Psi are better than everything else.
>>97741781I faintly recall people attacking Hagia because she DARED to have a male mentor figure. That must've triggered a lot of insecurities.
time for some oldschool stuff
>>97741781>Magi CaaeI beg your pardon?
>>97741783At least it has interesting options. Unlike Yawn Case.
>>97741649>So again, Moloch must be retarded. The existence of non-Son entropists only makes that clearly - he either knows that entropic magic is a real threat or he did literally zero scouting before invading Earth.His corruption of earth has been happening for generations, and Earth got magic right before he actually puts boots on the ground. That's not bad planning or zero scouting, it's just the shittiest luck ever. You can say that's bad writing or not conductive for a fun adventure, but just pick a different event then.>Spirit Armor costs 4 SP to be able to stop a sniper rifle.I feel like you're ignoring the point I was making here. Any defensive magic that affects Son at least once makes them immune to nonmagic threats. A base 1 SP Spirit Armor would be enough even without affecting physical materials. Or Fleswarp for 2 SP and more versatility. You don't need a Black Dragon to guard you or something (they'd make for poor guards anyways), I mentioned them because the Note section in the cyoa uses them as the example for nonmagical materials not being a threat. Pic related is an answer EA gave from the lore rentry.>So if they're not fighting demiurges and demons on day one, the point I made clearly stands - you need to massacre mundanes to have enough power to take on real threats. I can allow that certain builds, like picking Koryuu first and hoping she can bring home enough souls to let me bootstrap, are less awful than just murdering randos...I wasn't part of the prior conversation or point you were making - the vast majority of Sons will do genocide on the first day since that's faster than waiting for a portal to hell or the Dragon Conquistador to finish his ritual. A moralfag Son like Petros could avoid it by making use of Gifts and certain events (send Alta or Falista to take out the Shadow Legion and suck up the souls afterwards, for example), but the vast majority will do genocide since that's easier. Sons, in general, are assholes.
>>97741798MagiCACA IS REAL!
>>97741778It's proof this place is filled with high estrogen, low testosterone males. Or worse, women.
>>97741815>I've been posting with women all alongNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>97741693>I take all of the events, I just want them to be real problems not excuses to grind.Same, anon. Same...
>>97741794Not for me. Some Anons losing it over a guy being friends with a girl is crazy. Plus he died to Anti-Mages I'm not the type to JOB that hard.
Anons are;>Emotionally volatile.>Vindictive.>Petty.>Argumentative.>Attracted to evil.>Hate logic and physics.They truly strike all the boxes.
>>97741794Anons will say a woman is a slut because her father saw her naked during birth. Don't take them seriously.
>>97741830yup, fits matterkike to a t
>>97741826>Some Anons losing it over a guy being friends with a girl is crazyIf she's not pure and solely focused on you, can it be called [True Love]? That's why we buy perks btw.
>>97741845Hagia is pure only for (You) which is why she thanks us in her dialogue for healing her after her friend bited the dust.
>>97741849See, that's not enough. She thinks fondly of another man. Sure, it's clearly a mentor/father figure emotionally and narratively speaking, but that's irrelevant - she's thinking of a MAN. He had a headstart on (You) and you know deep down how hopeless you are without plot forcing their hearts.No, I'm not reading the second dialogue that systematically further your understanding of the character. My narrative is already fragile enough as it is.
>>97741830>>97741818>>97741815So everyone here can be considered by harem, correct?
>>97741880>Slutanons would riot
>>97741880>Yuri haremYikes!
>>97741889They're just feisty.
>>97741880A harem of anons would be hell. Imagine the nagging and backstabbing. They need to be lobotomized first.
>>97741909NTA but if multiplayers are indicators, we'd be fine after rooting out the worst.
Magi Case being compared to Fate never made any sense. Mages are the focus of MC while in Fate they and their entire society is just window dressing.If anything, Magi Case is more like Mage the Ascension than Fate, especially when the Anti-Magi are literally the Technocratic Unuon.
>>97741190can't you go abyss 9 chained 8 abyss 7-5 chained 4 abyss 3 chained 2 abyss 1-0 to skip the sequences where you lose all morals?
>>97741880You thought the homoerotic tension was a joke? The cyoag polycule is real.
>>97741919>Expecting anons to consume anything other than slop, or to READ some niche thing such as MtAUnreasonable standards. They compare it to Fate becasue they want to shit on it, but can't produce actual criticism
>>97741930Every sequence of Abyss makes you lose your morals; it's just weaker at sequence 9 because every ability is, but it's still happeningAbilities are all derived from a pathways Symbolism, so even if you skip the abyss pathway entirely and only accommodate its uniqueness, it still might make you lose them once you gain access to its authority and symbolism
>>97741919So Italics didn't steal from one franchise but two? Good to know.
>>97741947>Implying that MtA is less shit than Fate.lol, lmao even.
>>97739050while both the original and reincarnated are 'you' the wording of mother's little reincarnator seems to make it clear that 'you' are receiving memories from original 'you' but that 'you' by all means remain as reincarnated 'you' and don't immediately undergo a personality change back to original 'you'
Italics really going all out on shilling MC huh? he got the promotional posters and everything.
>>97741966Anything is better than the glorified waifufag self-insert show full of nonsense
>>97741983we in the italicscord do it for free
>>97741919You can compare it to MtA also but it's a lot less close. It's good practice to compare things to many other things, eg for me the asshole top families of the Magi clans reminded me of the 3 JJK families. If you need to describe Magi Case for short, Fate is the best comparison.What is the anime image on the bottom left?
>>97741992>italicscorddoes that actually exists? I would laugh so hard if it did.
>>97742004NTA but several authors have their discords, why would that be so laughable?
>>97741993>asshole top families of Magi Clana remind me of the 3 JJK familiesWhich clans?>What is anime image on bottom leftFate / Strange Fake LN Cover featuring magical police
>>97741957well I'm just going off what the CYOA says which is that sequence 9 doesn't remove your sense of right and wrong yet while sequence 8 specifically states it removes it. so skipping it (along with sequence 4 that turns you into a demon and sequence 2 that fills you with malice) would allow you to have someone go down abyss while not turning into a murderhobolet's be real though the advancement rituals and the shit you need to do for acting method will make it questionable if you ever had morals in the first place
>>97741993>You can compare it to MtA also but it's a lot less closeIt's really not, even cosmologically, Magi Case is closer to Mage than Fate. Powerscaling, Magi Case is closer to Mage than Fate.Only thing Magi and Fate have in common is anime skin.
>>97742039Cosmologically it's about as comparable to one as is to the other. Do normies believing in the magic has any effect on said magic on Magi Case?
>>97742019Because thinking about Italics huffing his own farts is funny.
>>97741811>You can say that's bad writing or not conductive for a fun adventure, but just pick a different event then.Sure, I'll also question why the event is there at all - I may as well homebrew an event where Fluffy Soul Bunnies deliver me enough SP to get the build I want instead of the build I can afford.> A base 1 SP Spirit Armor would be enough even without affecting physical materials. A sniper rifle or a nuke is by definition a physical material threat.>Or Fleswarp for 2 SP and more versatility.Fleshwarp only works on people who are alive to use it.>You don't need a Black Dragon to guard you or something (they'd make for poor guards anyways), I mentioned them because the Note section in the cyoa uses them as the example for nonmagical materials not being a threat.>Pic related is an answer EA gave from the lore rentry.I'll be honest even if I'm allowing EA to retcon, this does not seem to directly make your point. He's explicitly talking about magic systems from other worlds, not Earth. 2 or 3 SP may be trivial to EA but I deeply doubt EA's ability to do basic math and understand its implications. As one anon said, it's "ludonarrative dissonance." EA clearly wants Sons to be immune to bullets but that's not a trivial investment in the CYOA as written.>I wasn't part of the prior conversation or point you were making - the vast majority of Sons will do genocide on the first day since that's faster than waiting for a portal to hell or the Dragon Conquistador to finish his ritual.Thank you for agreeing with me that this is what the CYOA expects and implies.>A moralfag Son like Petros could avoid it by making use of Gifts and certain events (send Alta or Falista to take out the Shadow Legion and suck up the souls afterwards, for example), but the vast majority will do genocide since that's easier. Sons, in general, are assholes.I agree, and I think that's what the CYOA does well - offer you a really compelling to reason to be an asshole.
>>97742058Honestly, yes. Magic in Magi Case doesn't get weaker because people don't believe in it. It gets more departmentalized because people keep defining it and what it can do. But a giant fire tornado no matter how impossible can still be created and used without getting glitched out of reality or if you share the blueprint to the spell.
>>97737013>The update is just new images and lore. Barely any new choices.Some of that lore dramatically changes existing choices though. Ex, the angel is more relevant later on. The new choices that we do get are huge. Lifespan is now potentially limitless without accumulating corruption and becoming old one thanks to things like cosmic dreamer, which can outright cure corruption. Bubble of reality may prevent it altogether. The urge to scatter becomes manageable with Geb's Carapace.
>>97742104you're such a goofy
>>97742064Anon, what do I got to do to read your short story? Come on, be a friend.
>>97742035Nope, it's still happening at Sequence 9. You're just not fully liberated yet>SpoilerIt's possible to cheat most of the rituals while remaining "not evil", you just won't care to
>>97742064>Sure, I'll also question why the event is there at all - I may as well homebrew an event where Fluffy Soul Bunnies deliver me enough SP to get the build I want instead of the build I can afford.It's there because Demons are a notable part of the setting, not because every Event has to be a major obstacle or threat. I'd argue Battle Maniac, Isekai Heroes, and World of Horror are all lesser events in comparison, because none of them really expand on the setting at large or introduce any major factions. If you're basing events off of difficulty, than Chosen of Silence and Gomorrhan (if you have Pleasure Target) are even easier than Hellish Link. If you want to sartre an event that gives you infinite sp (which is a much bigger deal than 'defenseless souls like earth humans but more energy dense') you can cause its all make believe anyways, but that's not comparable.>I'll be honest even if I'm allowing EA to retcon, this does not seem to directly make your point.It's not really a retcon, he's just saying something already present in the cyoa more explicitly. The last sentence of pic related in the note section states 'Guns require a large amount of training to imbue with magic to be of any use' - emphasis on 'be of any use'. The Black Dragon example is a continuation of the previous sentence saying nonmagical materials are ineffective against magical beings (which is why it starts with 'That's why'). Entropist has lots of dumbass retcons (the Dreamlands as a whole and the minion summoning time, for example), but Sons being immune to bullets and most nonmagical shit isn't one.
Actually, if you take Independent Node it should be possible to be a good abyssfagJust move most of the "liberation" and malice stuff to the sequences you'll skip, then swap to Chained for sequences 1 and 0
>>97742121Im not a goofy :(
>>97738957Naisu builderuMight give me the incentive to finish my own little Pog Champ build.
>>97742333>It's there because Demons are a notable part of the setting, not because every Event has to be a major obstacle or threat. I'd argue Battle Maniac, Isekai Heroes, and World of Horror are all lesser events in comparison, because none of them really expand on the setting at large or introduce any major factions. If you're basing events off of difficulty, than Chosen of Silence and Gomorrhan (if you have Pleasure Target) are even easier than Hellish Link. If you want to sartre an event that gives you infinite sp (which is a much bigger deal than 'defenseless souls like earth humans but more energy dense') you can cause its all make believe anyways, but that's not comparable.Sure, If I have one critique of EA's tone it's that he seems to bend his otherwise great mythology to dump on things he doesn't like, which for me dilutes the fun. If I'm making an entropist build it's because I'm up front decided to play a "bad person" in this case and any weakening of the ethical and practical implications cheapens my supervillain fantasy.>It's not really a retcon, he's just saying something already present in the cyoa more explicitly. The last sentence of pic related in the note section states 'Guns require a large amount of training to imbue with magic to be of any use' - emphasis on 'be of any use'. The Black Dragon example is a continuation of the previous sentence saying nonmagical materials are ineffective against magical beings (which is why it starts with 'That's why'). Entropist has lots of dumbass retcons (the Dreamlands as a whole and the minion summoning time, for example), but Sons being immune to bullets and most nonmagical shit isn't one.Yeah, you seem to be right. I think it's lame (surviving as a squishy wizard while trying to get my minions and powers together is fun for me), but that's clearly not what EA intended, you've proven that to my satisfaction.
Rolled 4 (1d6)I've been at an impasse for quite some time, so I am leaving it to chance.>[1] Dreadlord>[2] Weaponmaster>[3] Warlord>[4] Emperor>[5] Necromancer>[6] Creator
>>97742448Emperor? Hmm... that doesn't surprise me. I had a surreal certainty that I was going to roll a 4. Now I need to come up with a non-genocidal plan.
>>97742414Lost Stranger is so dogshit Reincarnator is (potentially, if you finish your build) the most popular 5th Epoch originRight now it's tied with Evil Spirit
I think the secret to avoiding complete moral collapse is in the names actually prisoner - criminal?do you want to be out committing crime or be locked up so you can't? so first step is to imprison yourselfunwinged angel - lunaticonce again going chained makes more sense here symbolically, you ARE a lunatic for doing thisSerial Killer - Werewolfthis might sound weird but the serial killer chooses their victims while the werewolf doesn't, so the more moral option in a sense might be to become a serial killer and make those that "deserve" to die your victimsDevil - Zombiewhat does it mean to be a devil exactly? is it to spread sin or commit it yourself? do you *imprison* others in sin or do you commit the *crimes* yourself? and what about zombie? an undead creature that hungers for human flesh and that never rests or gives up. as strange as it sounds assuming we retain some control from our prison then devil is the better choice because we can choose which sins we inspire in othersdesire apostle - wraithan apostle of desire, someone who actively proselytizes the "virtue" of desire? when you think about it desire apostle sequence and devil sequence are the same, both are about inspiring sin only that this time the focus is wholly on others, for an apostle is already saved and does not need to be converted to the truth. on the other hand the wraith is a vengeful ghost, a malevolent spirit that haunts a place, person, or object. this might be a more virtuous sequence but it is in a sense a waste, because the evils of the desire apostle were already being committed as a chained devil anyways so we are just expanding our already growing list of sins for no real gain.demon - puppetwhose puppet? a puppet of your own morals? forced to obey the rules you set forth.or a malignant spirit, not just a force of corruption like devil but an active malicious force. it's obvious we must go puppet here to control ourselves instead of letting ourselves out of our "prison"
>>97742455Then there's the choice of whether to go Tyrant or Conqueror, but both have their merits. I'll just have to analyze this in more depth.
>>97742462blatherer - disciple of silencedirectly opposed much like sequence 9what is a blatherer? someone who keeps talking long past the point at which they should have stopped, like a certain anon when it comes to writing. disciple of silence meanwhile has interesting implications, you are studying under silence itself. at the core of this dichotomy is the simple question, are you introverted or extroverted?Bloody Archduke - Ancient Banebloody means to kill, something we already do.what is most important here is "archduke" a word usually reserved for the rulers of hell. this says it clearly, you must rule your own personal piece of "hell". well then what is hell? it is the place where the wicked are punished, so in a strange turn the abyss pathway now demands we begin to punish others for sins, likely the ones we induced even. one could argue that in doing this we are in fact committing a good deed.ancient bane on the other hand carries a few worrying connotations, you need to be ancient so time to sit around for a few hundred years cursing people, and cursing is important here. you are a bane, something that brings ruin.filthy monarch - abominationabominations are monsters, misshapen individuals, and horrid people. filthy I think here is used as the opposite of pure, monarch is obvious. much like how you ruled over a portion of hell you now need to rule your own hell kingdom. however unlike the previous sequence the filthy here means you must debase yourself, you have to become impure. this may be both in your eyes but also in the eyes of others. so we do a switch here into abomination so we don't invite the filth into ourself when we have worked so hard to keep it out.Abyssthe abyss is the darkness you see at sea when you look down, but really it's the lack of a visible seafloora you abyss then must be a lack of a visible you "seafloor" when you peer into the you sea. if that makes sense
>>97742464One advantage of a non-genocide run is potentially subverting the wizardlords, but that is easier said than done. Heh, there's a thought for a CYOA. (You) are a wizard that's made their own petty state in a far off, inhospitable region to avoid being bothered by normalfags. It could work, perhaps.
>>97733715>God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
>>97742461Honestly I would have liked to have just had a "reincarnated as a normal guy born to regular parents" 5th Epoch origin.
>>97742333>Entropist has lots of dumbass retcons (the Dreamlands as a whole and the minion summoning time, for example)These were good retcons, idc what anyone says
>>97742501Impossible. All the origins have the markings of outside influence - something Unnotable wouldn't fit the pattern.
>>97741667Italics artificially generates discussion whenever he gets jelly of other CYOAs/wants attention.If Italics didn't shill his CYOA, then most people would forget about Magi Case.
>>97742501That's Mommy's pog champ except you take the non-beyonder status and Temperance as your Present card if being an isekaijin is interfering too muchThere are no minor spelling mistakes in Ba Sing Se
why does the mystery box option have such an awful point budget, it's not like the custom pathway is that much stronger until you reach great one status
>>97742617It's the cyoa's hard mode
>>97741417He's European.Spanish are WAY whiter than mexicans due to the fact that 99% of mexicans have shitloads of injun blood in them.Any dark skinned Spanish would have Moor blood in them however, due to the constant wars and occupations from the muslim hordes of North Africa, but they're not nearly as common as injun blooded mexicans.
>>97741537Am I supposed to be surprised that the protagonist's Sephirot is the strongest one?
>>97741573Because not everyone values the same things or reacts the same. She's not the type who enjoys immortality and power, that doesn't mean other people aren't.
>>97742642>unprompted
>>97741564So it doesn't do anything?
>>97742642do spaniards really
>>97739788>>97742672some of them have synergy with path powers, like fools being able to put worms in their marionettes to share powers, the whole error parasite thing. others are just flat power boosts on top of being a demigod, like twilight giant or abyss. but yeah outside of extra power its just a way to neg diff anyone below seq 4
>>97741564>However, those who survive the impact from witnessing the Mythical Creature Form directly can learn corresponding potion formulas and understand the Beyonder powers of this existence.MISERBROS, WE'RE SAVED!!!No need to get potion formulas beyond S5, just get ways to survive seeing a mythical creature of your pathway. You were going to have to hunt mythical creatures and the like for your high level beyonder characteristics anyways
>>97742645It's not. Since both LOM and GA can fight infinite GOOs as long as they are not countered, and LOM has many counters while GA is explicitly difficult to counter, it stands to reason that GA is stronger.
>>97742705>No need to get potion formulas beyond S5it's not like that lil broklein saw something close to the sun god and only got formulas from s9 to s5, and an incomplete s4and that was with the sefirot protecting himif you want to see something complete beyond s5 you are courting death
>>97742708Doesn't LOM counter GA though? Or was it MGOD who countered GA? iirc the Pillars have a rock-paper-scissors thing going on.
>>97742705Doesn't give you the rituals though
>>97742719You read that in a reddit comment, didn't you? But I don't remember it having any reference, so it is just speculation.
>>97742645Always bet on the protagonist. He won canonically, after all.
>>97742642Calm down chico. You're sounding mad loco right now.
>>97742747>He wonI haven't read the second book, but isn't he locked in a battle of wills with CW with no hope of winning?
>>97742710It does work like that thoughbeit. Klein was simply too low level to get anything more at that time, when he divined antigonus condition and saw his mythical creature form he gained the formula and ritual for miracle invoker>>97742726That's only before knowledge of rituals emerged into the world from the first blasphemy slate.
>>97742747He didn't really win against the MGOD, she got what she was aiming for and all he did was convince her to come back later.
I chuckle evey time anons start writing GOO GOO GA GA with full earnestly.
>>97742772>GOO GOO GA GAReal Goddess of Origin moment.
>>97742772Not our fault the translation make us sound retarded.
>>97742772Its adorable honestly.
>>97742772me when I see a mythical form from the mother path
>>97742772Its like a daycare center in here. But instead of babies we have manchildren.
>>97742812is it milkable?
>>97742795Tbf it's mainly because we're sticking to acronymsFaster than typing God Almighty and Great Old Ones all the time
>>97742828>"Their" Mythical Creature Form is a mass of flesh and blood covered with various reproductive organs, golden ears of wheat, mushrooms, vines, and soil.in a way yeah
>>97742839This is the most beautiful form in the LOTM universe btw
>Italics shills Magi Case??? Doesn't he have a ton more CYOAs he can easily shill? Like fucking ECHOES PSY.It's been 10 YEARS. Where is the remake with endings Italics? Fucking Nasu of CYOAG over here.
>>97742850Nah, Beauty Goddess belongs to Moon.
I was thinking about Aromage again.Thinking about how I want to play the new version of Ultimate God.
>Magi Case takes place in the modern day.That means your Player Character mage can meet your real life self... IMAGINE.
>>97742878You could probably just go to discord and ask for it
>>97742884Shit scenario. Think of something better.
>>97742884but my player character is my real life self...
>>97742891>Magi Case takes place in the modern day.That means your Player Character mage can rape your real life self... IMAGINE.
>>97742885>using discordIt's not 4chan so I am not interested, simple as.
>>97742904Well then you have to wait
>>97742884Magi Case takes place in a different world with long winded boring lore tho.It's not the same world with (You) on it.
>>97742912I've been waiting since 2003 for her.I can wait a bit longer.
>>97742925You've been waiting since i was 7?
>>97742925You've been waiting since I was 1?
>>97741840Why are you still obsessed with him Are you still mad you got lectured about how light and matter and semantics work
>>97740297Based. Fate royally disrespects the heroes and wise figures of the past. Gilgamesh is NOT a twink.Merlin is NOT a twink.Solomon is NOT a twink. Fuck OFF.
Why can I suddenly smell curry?
>waaaah why does the youth obsessed culture obsess over youthful people waaaahNuke Japan if you hate it so much
>>97742953>him>>97742968cumin and paprika
>>97742953>himFuck off back to /lgbt/, us real people know she's a woman.
>>97742771>He didn't really win against the MGODwho can? cuttlefish can cope with ''burnout'' all he wants but the real reason he won't write part 3 is that he has to idea how to beat her
>>97742953>himNice try.
You’re all fucking retarded.
>>97742994The entire problem is making her invulnerable, unlike the other Pillars. All he had to do was make the Chaos Primogenitor alone invulnerable, not its host, so beating up or killing MGoD is perfectly viable as long as someone or something hosts the Chaos Primogenitor afterwards, else it wakes up and the universe ends.
>>97743064And we love you too.
>>97742994Can she be beaten by cock?>inb4 you'll be the pregnant oneYes, eldritch horror and all that. Can she be domesticated through eldritch dick?
>>97743092Only the OC's dick could tame her, all other dicks get tamed by her instead
Just think about it Gil is asleep in Aro’s arms right now
>>97743137Disgusting.Never type this again.
>>97743102Is the MGOD a daddy's girl?
>>97740630Relics are actually a limiter made by Reason to handicap the power of magic.
>>97733715Mostly finished build.
>>97733680>If a CYOA has no images, it is not a CYOApdf bros...
>>97743331Why not s1?
>>97733928Can I turn my dogs into a Familiar minions?If so, then I would turn my Shiba Inu into a Tiger and my Chihuahua into a Crow.
NEW THREAD >>97743422>>97743422>>97743422Thread creator forgot to make this post. SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!!!
>>97743541I had this typed out and apparently didn't hit post. I'm a hypocrite, I know>>97743422>>97743422>>97743422>>97743422>>97743422waiting until 700 posts and page 9 to make a new thread? come on
>>97742461Nta but I'm making a reincarnator build because I want to be a reincarnator for thematic reason, not because I dislike lost stranger.Only problem I have with that is that I'm annoyed I can't in good faith take the "you have a child" event, if I'm 10.
>>97742645His is at the same level as God Almighty and Mother Goddess of Depravity (with her having the problem it's broken).Also Mother Goddess has the strongest symbolism, Chaos Primogenitor, and the Calamity of Destruction with his symbolism of chaptic face can control the chaos sea.
>>97743331Template?
