Adun Toridas editionThe How-to-Play is up!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDBsIPVIOHw&t=3sSprues and instructionshttps://starcraft-tmg.com/downloadsPrevious Thread>>97722712>Thread Question What unit do you want more than any other in the game?
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>>97738599>TQGhosts. I NEED GHOSTS ARCHON
>>97738599Just took the 3 army set, Wanted the goliath too but maybe i'll wait for now when the Siege tank comes out. Can't wait to play it with my brother and even paint it. I use terran Dominion my Brother Golden Armada Protoss.>What unit do you want more than any other in the game?The Warhound I love the design, hope they make it for the second wave. I would love much more terran units but it's a start.>>97738617I want Specters but I think it's better to start with ghost, can't wait to pick up NOVA.
>>97738626>SpectersThat'd be awesome, I love my psycho-psychic but yeah, it makes sense to release Ghosts first imo>>97738599>TQInfested Marines
>>97738599>TQDark Templar.
>>97738599>ProtossDark Templars>TerransVultures>ZergTarrasque, though that's kinda cheating.
>>97738599>TQNeed Banelings
>>97738599>TqNone really- I'm a simple man who just spams marine marauder medic, so I have everything I could ever want, except the siege tank ig which is already on deck. Thor would be nice I suppose but it's not the end of the world if I have to wait awhile for one.
>>97738599>TqProtoss alarak and Wrath bringersZerg stukov with infestedTerran, tosh with spectresI also would like terran kerrigan, both pre infestation and post cleansing
>>97739077>I also would like terran kerrigan pre infestationThis but a Stukov model
>>97738599I want Duran>>97739077>stukov with infestedConfirmed but will be kino>>97739082Pre and Post Infesting Stukov would be awesome
>>97739187>DuranWould he be UED or Zerg? A dual faction unit, perhaps?
>>97738599>What unit do you want more than any other in the game?SC1 cutscene carrier.>but it's unfeasible at table sizeI don't care, I won't be playing the game anyway.
Would this size be enough for Colossus or do you want them bigger?
>>97740066I'd accept that, but I'd prefer them to be Knight sized tbhon
>>97740091Yeah something like Cerastus would be awesome
>>97740189I feel like Knight size, or close, it what's needed to have accurate Ultralisks, Colossus and Hybrid. Whether they'll do it is another thing entirely.
>>97738599The Aberration creeps me out. I want the Aberration.
>>97738599I would KILL for Zer'atai Dark templar! love me my Yautja Protossmight kitbash a entire army of them
>>97740864>Zer'ataiBased afI am curious about what the DT will look like, there's a few different designs for them throughout the games, comics etc
>>97740986as a unit probably a mix of the different designs in the box... which means i am going to have to buy a shit ton of themfor the nerazim version at least. bloodhunters are already confirmed as a seperate unit according to the wiki(?)
>>97741072>bloodhunters are already confirmed as a seperate unitOh sick, didn't know that! Tal'darim already eating well.
>>97740189yeah a Colossus needs to be quite large to justify the whole "can be targeted by anti air" after all not even the ultralisk and thor have that
>>97738599TQ: Lurker ofc, the one and only valid answer
>tabletop of a 40K inspired vg with 3 races nearly 30 years after that vg came outPic related - the developers
>>97738599>TQReapers. I want my jumping pistoleros.
>>97741400>Starcraft>40k inspired
Interview with the guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyrywvznggThe game seems to be in good hands
>>97741413>ReapersBASED>>97741397>LurkerBe cool to get a Lurker Den, that you can deploy on the table like the Omega Worm or Pylon. Serves as a detector and can attack ground units.
>>97738599>What unit do you want more than any other in the game?Nydus worm, cast in fleshlight material. For science.
>>97741719>enough content for 10 years of releases.timestamp 20:20
>>97741851Seek Christ, anon.
>>97741464Hey, as long it's not "Was Literally Fishing For The License", it's defensible. Even if my own opinion focuses on the overlapping concept artists.
>>97738602>Have to wait until Dec for High Temp. + Dragoons comboMan.. at least I know what to get for Christmas
>>97738602>Zeratul, Tassadar, Fenix, Zealots, High Templar, Scout. DragoonsBy the end of the first year I'll be able to make a fairly fluffly Fall of Aiur force. Kino.
I want ultralisks! Those ungentle giants are always my favorite!
>>97738599I want Marines and Zerg Queens from SC1. I love SC1 Queens.
>>97742196They've been confirmed as coming at some point but the scale is causing issues, I believe.
>>97742227>Zerg Queens from SC1Mother fucking Spawn Broodling ass fuckers FUCK THEM
>>97741719Templars merging on the table confirmed.Can't wait to paint some Zergs, I'll buy into Protoss when they release Immortals.
>>97741851We already have Nydussy in Kerrigan's box
>>97742284…pygalisks then?
>>97738599>TQBanelings. I bet they would look lovely with that clear colored plastic
I actually do kinda want the Purifiers in
>>97738599>TQGhosts and Nova/pre-zerg Kerrigan as well as vultures.
>>97742339>Templars merging on the table confirmed.SICK!
>>97743245I sometimes feel like I'm the only fan of Purifiers lol I'd love to see them on the tabletop too
>>97743856>pre-zerg KerriganI can she her releasing at some point, seems like an obvious model choice.
>>97744309Ooooh, edgy.
>>97742506What do you think inspired me? I'm not sure the original material would be comfortable though.
Ąlso, threadly reminder Battle Vaginarium exists if anyone's looking for a creep mat.
So what painting recipes are people using for kerrigan? Im probably gonna stick to citadel paints but no idea if i want to use contrast or not. Not gonna use slapchop though
>>97739030>impact(10) 3+ surge d3+2 vs armoredcould be fun
>>97741719>Scamcon studio interviewed by TroonhammerI think I'll do something useful with my time instead, like stare blankly at a wall for the runtime.
>>97744693(You)
>>97739030>>97744648>Zagara zerg army>you get extra swarmlings, abominations and banelings>upgrade building gives you scourge tokens you can use on flyersThat would be really fun, a horde army of zergling, baneling with one or two abominations around.
>>97744803>>97742118I really hope those are the sort of fluffly armies this game lets you play. That would be bloody rad honestly. Like an all infested army of a defence of Shakuras army that's a mix of Goldtoss and Dark Templar.
Does anyone have plans for not-by-the-books paint schemes? So far, examples of non-vanilla colors are far and few between, but perhaps there’s a great payoff to unusual color schemes?
>>97745312For terrans im going green contrast over metal base. There'll be a small amount of white trim but only on shoulder pads.For zerg I will probably be sticking to the base zerg schemeFor protoss either taldarim or brass armor
>>97745312It's technically another Blizz property but some Warcraft schemes might work>Draenei for Silver and White Protoss with purple Psi and crystals>Felhunter Zerg with red flesh, black-brown carapace, and ivory claws/talons>Blackrock Terrans with dark black armor, steel trim, and bright orange details
>>97745312I dunno, I like the in-game factions too much haha perhaps the closest to this is that I'm painting my dudes up in (what I'd guess is) an uncommon colour scheme since I'm painting my Terrans as Moebius Corps.
>>97745312i thinking about painting my terrans cerberus style
>>97746092Isn't that just UED with yellow stirpes?
>>97746147UED doesn't really have unique colors. in brood war it had pure white without the black accent and brown as colors ingame, but those have previously already been used for confederate squadrons (and later for Umoja) and the cutscene shows that outside of gameplay they are just using a mix of whatever they can get a hold of with no standard uniform at all (they did send the fleet with as little hardware as possible to avoid terrans stealing tech after all)lorewise yes that was the idea. remnant merc company that keeps itself seperated from the filthy terrans when not on a job
>>97746179No, UED wear white lmfao don't know why you'd even try and say otherwise.
>>97746185because they have two wings and one is brown? have you played brood war?>https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Atlas_Wing>https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Colorsin the cutscenes we also see them use brown armor, white armor and red marine armor>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VsdKesdaKs
>>97746179>UED doesn't really have unique colors???
>>97746212Watch him now claim these aren't white lol
>>97746212again that's also used for confederate troops in the same gameand heroes of the storm even named the white raynor classic skin after said troops the Alpha Squadron intead of the UED
>>97746229>Here's UED Marine infront of the UEd flag wearing white>Here's various in-game UED units wearing white>Therefore we know they wear white as both cutscenes and gameplay clearly show this>That actually proves nothing!(You)>>97746212
>>97746229>>97746197>>97746179So UED are not confirmed to wear white, despite cutscenes, gameplay etc, because other people in the universe also wear white? So Master Chief isn't ACTUALLY green. because other people in Halo also wear green?
>>97746240can you read? i never said they don't wear white i said >UED doesn't really have unique colorsbecause white and brown are also used for confederate troops in general the ued in general lacks a unqiue design which they will also not get unique models in this unlike other subfactions>https://www.youtube.com/live/Z21oYva4rLc?si=FtnOm1-P5jU2c5qo&t=1719mind you i think this is a shame and something i would have liked them to fix because the ued is something that can carry expansion sets
>>97738599>TQI want to make my Protoss into Purifiers but they've too much flesh so I'll probably just paint them up in generic Toss ways
Is Kerrigan a more interesting character in SC1 or SC2?
>>97746355SC 2 is fucking terrible, so SC 1
>>97746355Brood War Kerrigan is best Kerrigan.
>>97746355a glass of water is more interesting than kerrigan in sc2
>>97746355Am I the only human on Earth that likes HotS Kerrigan? :(
>>97746355SC1 and SC2 Kerrigan/Jimmy are diffrent characters
>>97746383SC2 Jim is far more different compared to SC1 Jim than Kerrigan is between games desu
How to achieve this shiny black visor effect on a model? Would gloss varnish over black be enough to stand out from the rest of the armor?
>>97746450you could also draw the reflection on it with silver
Undecided on whether to go Nezarim or Tal'darim for my Protoss color scheme
>>97746548taldarim are getting their own models later. in fact they are right now the only confirmed protoss subfaction with their own models not saying you should go nerazim because of it as taldarim in lore also klep stuff from the normal protoss and just paint it black, but i thought that info might help you to decide
>>97746383SC1 Ghost and Queen of Blades Kerrigans are separate characters to begin with, and WoL is still sensibly the former while HotS onward is a wonky intermediate third thing.Additionally, Jim's "inconsistencies" have pretty solid explanations if you play the right mission order. The issue is that the reason for turning away from "trying to kill the Queen of Blades" is a single scene in the optional Zeratul cutscenes that doesn't actually SAY it, so it blind-sides people because the set-up is very easy to miss.
>>97746548Tal'darim are confirmed as getting basically a full faction release down the line, so if you want to prep for that paint up as Tal, if not do Dark Templar
>>97746450Option 1: masking tape and hit it with an airbrushOption 2: make very gradual dark grey to white transitions and blends
>>97746683Maybe if she got lobotomized between brood war and wol, also the whole romantic subplot pulled from the ass,
>>97746380Yes.
>>97746380I had hope for the first few missions but then she got shit.
Cute
>>97747085...Actually look at the "schemes" she got up to in Brood War and really think through what the way she rubbed peoples' faces in fucking them over implies for the shelf-life of getting to try that shit in the first place, let alone how often it'd work once people established it as a pattern of behavior.As for the romantic subplot, do you really need it to be a beat-you-over-the-head subplot to acknowledge any possibility of interest? People were very much picking up on that long before SC2 shoved it in everyone's faces from the opening cutscenes.
>>97741397Lurk moar.
Immortals are going to be pretty big
>>97747640None of the pics I can find are particularly clear, but each leg is roughly the size of a Marine by in-game scale.
It's been at least 15 years since anyone's given a shit about StarCraft, all the excited replies to the TQ don't seem very organic.
>>97746450If the rest of the model is neither pure black nor gloss then a gloss black visor will stand out hard.
Thinking of going with this for my Protoss. Save the Tal'darim red for when they eventually get released.
>>97741400there are more than three factions in the sc universeyou have never plyed the games fagkill yourself
this game is DOAi still want me a Goliath model though
>>97741400it's funny because 40k has turned to shit but starcraft has been starcraft for decades and keeps goingand I don't mean sc2
>>97746256>because white and brown are also used for confederate troopsTo be fair we see white confederate troops only in game with it's weird colour-scheme RNG.Meanwhile UED and Umojan Protectorate White-claded marines appears in cinematics, just like blue-painted Raiders and red-painted Dominion.
>>97748515Hell even SC2 is still going afaik.And rumor has it this Blizzcon will have a big SC announcement, though I doubt it's worth getting hyped over.
>>97748660they're doing a fps in the sc universe or something it's not a rts iirc so who cares
>>97747640DAMN dat boi is big
>>97747971I've not idea how you'd make that scheme look good on the table, neon green and dark black would be pretty hard to paint, but it could certainly look good if done right.
>>97748660>>97748942I hope it's something like Heldivers>>97747874Sounds about right
>>97748110More factions exists, yes. Still only three races playable.
>>97749310That's the biggest appeal for me desu, I've always found this design very elegant. SC1 had fantastic atmosphere with just these three races, a 4th one would ruin everything.
>>97749310Hybrids.
>>97749574Personally as thrur own playable race i feel like they are a meme. There's only like 5/6 different types of hybrids which all money or less ste different sizes of the same things matryoshka style.Though they'd work well imperial knight/sons of behemoth style where they can go in most of not all other armies.
>>97750044I think it's pretty obvious the Hybrid will be Starcraft's Knight faction, it's the only thing that makes sense.
>>97747640Shit he looks big, what's he fighting? A Defiler? Roach?
>>97752403I think its the Nidus Worm.
>>97752496If so he really is fucking massive lol
>>97747640I think Dragoons are smaller in lore than an Immortal but I'd want Goons to be massive as well, they deserve it.
>>97752648This is the only pic I can find with them on the same screen, but these aren't regular Immortals. Ideally 'goons will just be as large as the bottom part of the Immortals.
>>97738599>>97738602Please stop. Whatever Blizzard is paying you is not enough. This shilling is so transparent it's not even funny
>>97753616>>97752648According to the wiki, Dragoons are roughly as tall as a marine in armour, so I can see the model being very wide but not like SUPER tall.
>>97747640I wonder if the Immortal will be like the Stalkers and come in multiples, or if he's so big and powerful you'll only get one in a box.
>>97738599Hear me out.Customizable commanders representing each of the SC1 player characters. Maybe they're a bit weaker than the named heroes, but they get some sort of extra customization to make up for it.I would love to make a Magistrate led Mar Sara Militia.
>>97754279he does it for free (because he owns the company)
>>97754789Like what they have in SWL? Would be sweet. I'd kill for a generic Tal'darim Ascendant or Broodmother.
>>97754653Definitely single Its as big if not bigger than a goliath and that's solo
>>97738599Ah, finally a general for the upcoming SCTMGI'm quite stoked for this game>TQThe Thor!
>>97755092Nah we need the Odin.Rules: After setting up the Odin, you win.
>>97755106Oh yeah, here is my tychus findlay army, he pilots the odin, I also have a loki and a thor. Oh sorry, it seems I can't fit more than one unit on the board at a time...
>>977463552 is god awful for Story purposes. Anything after 1 should honestly not be canon. Tal'darim can stay though, those guys are fucking awesome
>>97754279Have a (You), boy
>>97754789Commanders are not very SC like, we already have hero characters and that's enough. Save customizable commanders for the Warcraft Miniature Tabletop Game (which I'm very excited for and hope it's going to happen sooner than later)
>>97755188>Matt>Tychus>Tosh>Abathur>Stukov>Vorazun>Alarak>TalandarKeep these from 2 without ever diving deeper into the actual plot of 2 and it's fine. Co-Op legitimately did it right.
>>97744143I was initially thinking about getting Protoss alongside my Terran for preorders, but since in my area almost half of the players are going Protoss I'll wait for Purifiers to grab some Protoss fun
>>97747971>Necross color theme
>>97755106>Rules: After setting up the Odin, you win.Piloted by Chuck Norris, I see?
>>97755329>>97744143>>97743245I'm amazed how many Purifier fans there are in this thread
>>97755234I know its dumb but I hope SCTMG survives long enough for us to get a really weird Warmahordes style thing where they have Starcraft, Warcraft, and Diablo all fighting each other.
>>97755375I haven't even played LotV, but machinery > biological (except IRL women, or course). Robo-Protoss and Robo-Zerg (Simulants) are much cooler for me than their bio versions
>>97755375I legitimately like Talandar as a character, and Purifiers being literal Robo-Toss are cool.
>>97755375Purifiers are awesome and I'm sick of pretending otherwise
>>97755188I sense your grapes are sour about the multibillion dollar company not meeting your decade of building expectations externally to any of its actual product.
>>97755400>3 way fight of jim raynor vs imperium led seraphim vs lic king scourge hordeI didn't know i wanted this till now...
>>97755400Can't wait to roll up to my LGS to play a game of Heroes of the Storm
>>97741851>>97744317I'm sure it's big enough for you
>>97755221Please get a life outside consooming blizzdrone.
>>97738599So which named characters has Blizzard turned into homosexuals for this one? What about the obligatory black tranny, who are they adding?
>>97756050Trying Too Hard.
>>97747365The transparent plastic wings really brings the whole thing together
>>97756050The only 'woke' aspect of this game is they'll do female space marine heads, but unlike 40k there'll be no lore issue with it because women have always been able to wear power armor the same as men, so I don't think anyone will actually have a problem with it
>>97755846Is it me or does kerrigan herself look deceptively small>>97755027Hot single immortal in your area!
>>97756385Zergification did not made her bigger than she was before so she looks like she should.
>>97755375I don't hate them tbhon, I just feel like they're a little undeveloped compared to the likes of Tal'darim or Nerazim.
The worst part of this game is I feel obligated to collect all three armies. I want to get one of every unit at least for painting and display.
>>97756385>Is it me or does kerrigan herself look deceptively smallI canon she's roughly the size of a Terran in CMC armour, so it wouldn't make sense for her to be a titanic model in relation to the others, although to me or you she'd be a fucking giant lol
>>97757314Lol I feel you, I want to own all factions because I love all equally.
>>97756050That’s the great thing about Starcraft. It remains pure and free of the corruptive touch of woke
>>97758678For now*There's a new game (supposedly) coming out.
>>97755912>Please get a life outside consooming blizzdrone
>>97758713RTS?!
>>97759037FPS
>>97759046oh...
>>97759058I mean to be fair, it was always a travesty that Starcraft Ghost was sunset. Seeing the Starcraft world from this perspective would have been absolutely LIT.
>>97759079>SC GhostDon't remind me, anon. I still mourn for it.
>>97759079Imagine TPP Helldivers type of a game as Marine + other classes, mowing down waves of Zergs
>>97759079>>97759091I still wonder if the Nova Ops campaign that came out was originally the plot for Ghost. It has a lot of loadout and gear management which kinda makes me think it was.
>>97759535The Nova Covert Ops campaign was really good ngl. It was a nice return to form after the rather skub turn of events of the main SC2 campaigns. I’m just sad that they never went on to make other mini campaigns. Would have been neat to find out wtf Dehaka is up to after the siege of Korhal, for example
>>97759168imagine?
Will there be buildings lile barrack, lair, stargate and stuffs for scenery/objective?
>>97738602Wonder how will they pull flying models. Like, mutalisks and all should be fucking massive
>>97760544NopeThey'r3e tactical cards
>>97759535we know a bit about the plot of ghost. it was mostly the Spectre plot from nova's pov with her later getting help from protoss dark templars (including teaching and gear) because in this spectres would be made with stolen protoss tech >https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/StarCraft:_Ghost>https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Sari%27jal>https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Jackson_Hauler>https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/9mrld7gm56ebjlgc895qx/AL96K-4tcVEkNVPG51cLQkY?rlkey=75qh3cdbrd5ey4610z9xg6ctw&e=1&dl=0
>>97760843NTA, currently, sure, they're just for list building in a manner similar to HH3.0 but much more intuitive. That said, I don't think we'll see any buildings beyond things like bunkers/pylons/turrets unless people create 3D print STLs. And even then, things like a Command Center would be way too big to fit on the table. Though a game mode similar to 40k's Boarding Action rules would be a fun way to be inside buildings/ships with your infantry.
>>97755737Man, I miss when HOTS had more players than the tryhardest of faggots. Tabletop HOTS couldn't possibly be worse than the current state of the game.
>>97760888i am suprised to hear that this still has players at all
>>97760891Just a handful of the most autistic assholes endlessly playing the ARAM mode.
>>97760560They'll probably reduce their scale. The Raven is freaking massive and would occupy like 1/5th of the table if in truescale.>>97760884>Though a game mode similar to 40k's Boarding Action rules would be a fun way to be inside buildings/ships with your infantry.Hell yeah>>97760891I just play against bots from time to time
>>97760884>>97760930Wasn't there a mission which Kerrigan went into a Science Vessel or something? That's when I realized that the flying bulb is way bigger than it looked in the game
>>97760450I refuse to buy this game because of primaris, 40k died in 2017
>>97761432>Wasn't there a mission which Kerrigan went into a Science Vessel or something?Yep, a mission I quite enjoy :)>>97760884>Though a game mode similar to 40k's Boarding Action rules would be a fun way to be inside buildings/ships with your infantry.That would be FUCKING PEAK!
>>97760544>Will there be buildings lile barrack, lair, stargate and stuffs for scenery/objective?Barracks and Command Centres etc are faaaaar to big for the scale of the game, but I'd like to see things like supply depots, Anti-air turrets, bunkers etc in order to theme the board a little.
>>97760884Space Hulk would be sweethttps://youtu.be/9AL-kScqdr0?si=WZAFU9NFFmt1MLz4
>>97762282>>97762272>>97760884>>97761432Based on how terrain and LoS works in SCTMG, it'd be easy enough to use 40ks boarding action terrain if you want to play aboard a Terran ship or something.
>>97762278>but I'd like to see things like supply depots, Anti-air turrets, bunkersThey've said they want to release Starcraft terrain at some point so we'll probably get this stuff, aye.
>>97746355Both are okay, even if I agree that the ending of LoTV was retarded.>inb4 "SC2 SUCKS IN EVERY WAY, KYS ZOOMERNIGGER REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"SC1's story had writing that was equally retarded at times, you're just a millenial with nostalgia goggles welded to his skull.
>>97760884>>97761432>Though a game mode similar to 40k's Boarding Action rules would be a fun way to be inside buildings/ships with your infantry.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AL-kScqdr0
>>97738599>Thread QuestionLurkers/Impalers.
>>97762736recently after buying the basic box I restarted to play SC1 and SC2 and I noticed in some segments of SC1 the retarded parts are infact more the "Change of Idea during writing" like the famous SC1 intro that no one see's seems so out of place because it was for another game, SC2 seems a natural development of SC1 but they forgot the "basic" stuff even in the past when I was 16 and played the Campaign of WoL like every fucking person who played SC1 when we end up in Haven we all said>Wait... Isn't raynor friends with the protoss?or the ending of WoL>Wait we did everything to "kill her" and James how for all the game was troubloed by killing her or saving her now she decide to save her only because Thycus want to kill the Zerg Pussy.I mean IDK why I feel like Starcraft sometimes i written in a really "blizzard way" (that you can recognize subtetly or they done their homework) and sometimes pull out story ass cliches or something "dumb" but at least not a fucking facepalm dumb.
>>97762911I think a central issue to it is that SC1 has much grittier and 'earthly' feel to it, especially with the cut content like the prologue campaign. The Terran content in 1 got cut short, likely for the sake of time, and what was removed tried to make the Confederacy and Dominion both into more villainous groups.Something to keep in mind is that in both (or technically all three) Terran campaigns in SC1, you're technically playing the bad guys. There's parts in base SC1 where you aren't, namely early on and in the final mission, but the Sons of Korhal definitely aren't good guys.Same goes for the Zerg in both SC1 and Brood War. You're outright the bad guys of the story.Both WoL and HotS turned this around to have you play as the Good Guys. Raynor's Raiders are wholly justified in pretty much every mission as opposed to the dubious morals of the SoK and UED. Kerrigan is constantly shown as balancing out her zerg vindictiveness with her remaining humanity, as opposed to her monstrously inhumane attitude in SC1.Only the Protoss manage to carry over the spirit of their SC1/BW campaigns to 2, given their more heroic and upstanding nature.SC2 is still dark at times, but it's far less ambiguous or ambient as SC1.
>>97762911>>97762985SC2 writing isn't as bad as a lot of people pretend, it's lesser than the first game sure but I've experienced far worse characters and plots. There's a good chunk of SC2 I love, the only part I'd call truly fucking terrible is final act which involves going into another realm to make Kerrigan into a god to beat an ancient evil god while the Protoss and Terrans watch.
>>97763143I think it like you, I mean in the past and even today that I replayed SC1 and SC2 mine was more a critic than beign butthurt, I think SC2 plot and story is not bad but it seems like something in the writing was forgot or not even considered but in the end it has a really nice gameplay and the story it has both 10/10 moments and low points but IG is a great game and story
>>97762911>when we end up in Haven we all said>Wait... Isn't raynor friends with the protoss?But glassing colonies is bad, and Hot Doctor Lady said she was working on a fix. Something Raynor had personal experience with being possible given his involvement with Stukov's case of it, before HotS retconned him into some weird mix of remission and getting re-conscripted by Narud's programs about it. Could use a proof-of-concept like Morik to establish she was making clear progress BEFORE the decision-point or had its spread clearly tied to the Raiders not getting in the way in favor of joining the glassing, but the fact remains that Raynor's in the business of stopping "Cruel Necessities" that aren't actually necessary and has cause to believe in Haven being a case of such.>Wait we did everything to "kill her" and James how for all the game was troubloed by killing her or saving her now she decide to save her only because Thycus want to kill the Zerg Pussy.I repeat, Zeratul's cutscenes around the Protoss missions explain it, but because it's FUCKING OPTIONAL and not SAID CLEARLY the midwit consensus misses it.Same as the people who think the Hybrid existing at all was a complete ass-pull. Dark Origin was quite explicit about Duran having uncanny knowledge of Protoss technology working on Zerg/Protoss Hybrid for the interests of something they reflect. The moment that the Zerg and Protoss were explained to be an intentional "pair" for making new Xel'naga (which, again, seems to be from 2009 Dark Templar Saga novels), the Amon plot was pretty damned clear.>>97763209>it seems like something in the writing was forgot or not even consideredBlizzard forgetting how to write anything but Overt Protagonist point-of-view does seem to be a consistent trend in their storytelling decline.
>>97763241Holy Wordsoup
>>97763241>Blizzard forgetting how to write anything but Overt Protagonist point-of-view does seem to be a consistent trend in their storytelling decline.SC1 was almost entirely driven by the actions of the protagonists though? Like, it's no real different from SC2 if you think about it.
>>97764235"Protagonist" may not be quite the right word, but an example that sticks in mind is that one troll faction cutscene that comes across as introducing heroes rather than the patch enemies they are. That is, their capacity to SHOW a "viewpoint" character being wrong kept degrading to something of an inversion of protagonist-centered morality, where regardless of still recognizing moral stakes said character will be portrayed as "the hero of their own story" so long as the focus is on it.
>>97755846Not unless he's got huge hands.
Well Roachers, are you on team Corpser or team Vile… or team Vanilla? It’s actually quite interesting to me that they made Corpsers more melee focused and Viles more ranged focused. Vanilla roaches are middle of the road with the “bonus” of being cheaper.
>>97765674Roaches sure seem interesting, but I do have to wonder how much they'll be able to do with only 3 per squad.
>>97765696With 4 hp per roach, a 3+ armor save and a heal 2 health while underground ability, they are real tough nuts to crack without armor surge. Add a Queen nearby to reduce incoming hits and those stinkers are going to stay on the point for a long time
>>97765696Roaches seem like a roadblock unit more than anything, like >>97765910 says, they're fairly tanky and while they can do decent damage, I feel they're best served soaking up loads of fire
>>97738599>TQInfesters or Vipers or both. There's just something really fucking funny about yanking your opponents' stuff in to the heart of the swarm.
>>97738602I bought the Protoss starter, I'll probably buy some Zerg when Stukov comes outAlso it's weird they didn't immediately make an Archon mini for Protoss
>>97738599Been doing a shitton of laddering to hype myself up for the game, and I gotta say people talk about 3 factions as being an issue, but honestly I think it'll be one of the best things this game has going for it. Running into the 3 races over and over again reminded me of how balanced and fair the gameplay feels as a result of there being ONLY 3 races- they each can do shit that's strong as fuck that feels busted, but upon reviewing my own games I relearn more and more the flaws with each strategy and the easy countermeasures.I think that'll carry over well to a ttg- with only 3 factions to worry about balancing will be easy and make for a fun and healthy game, and I'm looking forward to that more than anything.
>>97767891Not only it's healthy for the game balance but also you are not stuck with an army that has to wait another 10 years for a refresh or even a single new model like in bloated 40k. Just like Jarek said in the interview, they have enough models for almost 10 years of releases every 3 months. Even if they won't be able to keep this pace, it's still nice to know we have a lot to look forward to.
>>97767891>>97768666Also even though there's only 3 factions if they're going the coop commander route of heroes changing how your army plays then there's potential for so much variety.Like just from this thread and last thread so many people are excited, me included, for stukov zerg which is fundamentally a completely different type of zerg army if its going to be infested base. Speaking of stukov, I hope they keep his hots iteration as a support hero who can slap a bitch.
Looking to diversify games at my LGS, was gonna pick up Konflikt 47 but how much confidence is there in this SC tabletop? Haven't played anything from Archon and I know Blizzard is a shitty husk of a company, but it seems competent from what I've seen?
>>97746450Gloss black paint, preferrably airbrushed or spray painted.
>>97738599Terran Viking 2 model kit that builds one flyer, and one walker.
>>97768960The future is bright and a lot more people know Starcraft than Konflikt 47. Blizzcon is back this year with SC2 tournament and they most likely will announce some shooter, maybe something like Helldivers so people will be hyped for this franchise again, might sell you a couple of boxes more if it's your LGS.
I decided to whale. Been waiting for starcraft miniatures for well over a decade. Two starter sets, two protoss founder sets, stalkers, goliaths, hydralisks.
>>97769005It will be dope as fuck, but I'm not expecting it for another two or three years since the goliath kinda checks the boxes off for their role in the army
>>97756173>>97758678Because Blizzard hasn't touched it in 50 years. You think they won't cram it full of blacks and trannies they do anything new with it, starting with the bullshit in OP?
>>97768960They have content for at least a decade, this wargame’s in good hands.
>>97763143>SC2 writing isn't as bad as a lot of people pretend,Perhaps not, but it's still far from good.
>>97769685Anon pls, SC1’s writing was just as cheesy. You just remember SC1 more fondly because it was your childhood
>>97769685>>97769744I do like some good cheese.Like, "Hell, its about time." I so damn cheesy but I love it.
>>97769949There's a difference between cheesy and dumb. Jimmy swearing revenge against Kerrigan because she murdered his alien best friend Fenix is cheesy. Kerrigan becoming a giant fiery angel because she's the chosen one of an ancient prophecy and fulfilled it by transforming into a Xel'naga is dumb.
>>97769949Cheese is life, cheese is love.
>>97769433The black characters they had in Starcraft 2 were easily some of the coolest additions to the setting, so I think they'll be fine.
>>97770563>Loyal to Raynor>Never actually lies to Raynor (unlike the Ghost bimbo)>Properly calls out Horner's altruistic dream as being far fetched>Sets you up with Reapers and Goliaths>Has a cool jailbreak hero missionThere's a lot of irony in Nova trying to rag on Spectres using Terrazine when she goes and does the exact same thing in her own campaign. Probably the biggest no-brainer choice out of the WoL split missions
>>97770563>never appeared in hotsWhat a crime
>>97770563You really think their DEI consultants are gonna let them write another magical negro?
>>97770651>DEI consultants A fading fad so probably won't be relevant
>>97770750Forty percent of game developers identify as queer according to GDC's own survey. They're gonna hold onto their gay race communism with both hands until they're purged.
I kinda wish the starcraft miniatures game adopts a different storyline to the videogame. Where theres less amon and hybrids, and no "muh zerg wuz gud boi, they dindu nuffin wuz jus innoshun wild animul" shite.
>>97766938I reckon that it will be a long time until Dark Archons and Infestors hit the board. Mind Control, Neural Parasite and even Confusion are going to be a bear and a half to implement.
>>97772136I just wanna kill Zerg and say "You want a piece o' me, boy?"
>>97770750It's just getting rebranded as BRIDGE.
>>97773501How many more acronyms must they cycle through?
>>97770597>There's a lot of irony in Nova trying to rag on Spectres using Terrazine when she goes and does the exact same thing in her own campaign.nova has protagonist privileges. not even kidding in the books she can handle Terrazine because she is already at the peak of the human psy index so you can't make her a spectre meanwhile a mindblast from her is the reason why tosh believes in vodoo
>>97776891>>97770597Nova is cute, we can forgive a cuties a 'zine use now and then.
>>97777070Pretty Privilege: Ghost Edition
>>97773501The perfidious cardfuckers!>>97776570All of them, as long as there's something to feed on.
>>97776891Voodoo is real tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6THWRV-vUyc
Looking at how big are some of Archon's models I think Ultralisk and Colossus should be fine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1DAOAFFVMI
>>97778643Colossus would be Warlord titan size tall, maybe even taller if they made it true scale. I expect they'll make it about the same size as the ultra & thor tho.
>>97778676I bet it'll be Canoptek Doomstalker size
>>97778643I want the Ultra to be as big as picrel, at minimum.
>>97773145I've no clue how they could even have units with Mind Control in the game without it feeling real bad to play against. This is why I can see it being a long time before we see Archons and such.
Howdy ladsI had thoses in store, figured you might find them handy.
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>>97784391>>97784399>>97784414>>97784453Starcraft in game scale has always been dumb
>>97784414I am very interested in seeing the size of the Dragoon give it's as tall as a marine but muuuuch wider.
>>97770563Tosh is a veey "black" character, but he's a black done well.
>>97770597Picking Nova is beyond retarded. Its literally...>We are about to liberate a prison planet with all the disidents of the regime!>N-no, don't do that, a very small portion of them are psycho-killers according to the regime! Trust me, I am a regime loyalist assassin and I want you to kill your current ally instead>>97770563He really is perfect mini material
>>97788194>>97770597>>97770563>Picking the cringe voodoo nigger>Picking the white, blonde, skin-tight outfit wearing babeSure if an easy choice.
Aldaris was an asshole, but he was right about Kerrigan.
>>97789387>Aldaris was a based kingftfy
>>97770772>until they're purgedThey will be, the moment it stops being profitable to the corps. If you lick corporate ass, don't complain if you get shit on.
I wonder what’s the proper zergling to roach ratio will be. I have a good hunch that it pays off to have a balanced army in this as opposed to going full in on one or two things
>>97790054They've said they want to discourage people spamming one unit over and over again so yeah, I'm sure it'll be to your benefit to mix Zerglings and Roaches rather than tossing loads of one or the other at the table.
>>97769392>I decided to whale. Been waiting for starcraft miniatures for well over a decade. Two starter sets, two protoss founder sets, stalkers, goliaths, hydralisks.Nice. I got the founders pack and an extra set of the terrain, can't fucking wait. I've wanted plastic Protoss minis for years now lol
>>97784414Why is Mengsk depicted as a negro? And the magistrate wasn't a goddamn pajeet, that's for sure.
>>97792207Nevermind the fact CMC equipped Duke and Infested Kerrigan are somehow either the same height or shorter than DuGalle?
>>97739030Banelings are one of the units I'm most hyped for. They're great fun in SC2. Just wonder how they'll be stated since they, you know, explode and die.
>>97792497Probably deal a ton of Impact hits and are then removed from the table without counting as VPs.
>>97792497I want banelings yesterday. Can you imagine how annoying muta/ling/bane would be for your opponent?
>>97793395Banelings are going to look sick with the green clear plastic
>>97794274They will indeed! Quite hyped for them :)
>>97765674I'm really annoyed that you seem to just spawn the Roachlings mid game, rather than spawning after the Corpser dies. It's such a simple thing to get wrong.
>>97738599Is this one of those games where you need to use named characters and you can't even your dudes your guys
>>97797650Oh hey, (You)'re back! I though (You) were leaving 97724836? :)
I want Firebats and I want them to have flame templates and I want them to be able to place two of those templates anywhere on their base per shot because they've 2 flamethrowers.
>>97797750Firebats are based af.
>>97797493I figure it’s so that you can have the opportunity to be all “fly my pretties!” before your roaches get blasted apart by marauders and immortals
>>97798394It still ain't right.
>>97798503Well, we also gotta take into the logistics of how it works when it comes to on-death effects for units. Would it be spawning 3 roachlings when you wipe out a whole squad? That probably would be rather unreliable considering that while they’re competent fighters, they aren’t as killy as Goliaths or Hydralisks. Would it be on a supply removed basis or an individual model basis? There can only be so many roachlings per box of roaches and converting a whole squad of enemy zerglings into roachlings would be a daunting task if one is unwilling to use proxies. Being able to make a marine squad immediately in combat thanks to a marine being blasted into a roachling and thus be unable to shoot at anything except that little shit would also be super annoying.
>>97799190Continuing on this, by all means, you could try homebrewing it. Perhaps it would make sense to spawn the roachlings at the end of the turn to reduce the sheer interrupt potential of immediate on death spawning
>>97799229>>97799190>>97799229I dunno how it would work, but lucky I'm not making the game so I don't have to. They got the rule wrong.
>>97800414It wouldn't be too hard, but would definitely be more complicated than what the designer probably wants for the game.
>>97800789I guess. I can see your point. Just so many of the other units are accurate to the games/lore so it's a shame the Corpser is wrong, purely because Corpsers are my favourite unit in SC2's campaign.
>>97801009I love Roaches, but Hydralisks will always be my favourite Zerg unit (basic bitch choice I know lol).
