Where do I even put this on the alignmen chart?There's collectivist angle allowing "all people" to pursue their dreams, which is pretty Lawful.But also dependence on slave labor (drugged out of their mind to stay content and compliant), which seems pretty Evil.Or is ensuring the working class doesn't suffer kind enough to shift towards Neutral?Assuming high fantasy, not mudcore where the peasants make over 90% of the population.
You just wanted to post porn.
>>97744019It's a legitimate question, fantasy ttrpgs often shy away from drug use, especially at large scale and endorsed by the ruling class, so there isn't much precedent to go by.
>>97744006>Where do I even put this on the alignmen chart?Lawful Evil, like all socialism
jerk off before you post
Cost of manpower is not that relevant in a lot of fields, especially farmers, builders are paid well if they are specialised professionals, but you can have low expenses for a lot of jobs.
>>97744006Lawful good conventional utilitarian offtopic pornography
>>97744145Try them, they're fun
Retarded and out of touch take, western countries are already on the way to live like that, you have a bunch of university students with rich parents that wear 500 bucks worth of ripped pants and complain about the poor being exploited while a fucker from bangladesh is cycling under the rain to deliver them sushi for 3 bucks per hour.
>>97744006>we should enslave people for freedomHypocrisy is evil.
Kill yourself
>>97744057Correct. How is this even a question?
Oh hey, a fresh bump fag thread.
>>97744033>alignment thread>legitimate questionPick one
>>97744019And yet, mods will do nothing.
>>97744033>fantasy ttrpgs often shy away from drug use, especially at large scale and endorsed by the ruling classWith one exception - alcohol, which is also a drug, being often tolerated or even celebrated, particularly in dwarven societies.>>97744198I guess there's a parallel with population placated by overuse of prescription meds.
>>97744403>do nothingDont be ridiculous. The mods run defence for offtopic porn threads
>>97744403The mods are actively part of the problem. It's worse than doing nothing.
>>97744006>low effort pornslopper is a commiesimpLolLmaoEvery time It's never a coal miner or construction worker wanting the government to take away the fruits of his labor and portion it put to lazy scribbling bums, it's always the lazy scribbling bums who think existence is owed to them
>>97744471Who are the billionaires for 400, Alex?
>>97744486>who are the (((rootless cosmopolitans)))You mean the financiers of commiecattle to keep their useful idiot artfags targeting and dismantling any cohesion the working class might try to put forth?If commiecucks cared about billionaires, they'd stop simping for megacorporations just because they change their twitter pfp to a rainbow once a year.
>>97744471I think it's really cool that some people automatically assume that fictional characters only serve as the author's mouthpiece and they cannot be anything else other than that.
>>97744006if i'm reading that wall of text right, it's only a coinflip chance for you to be able to pursue your dreams (every other person in the world), and that's just not the kinds of odds I can accept as good. and then at the end she diminishes and dehumanizes whoever flips the tails by saying they're all just "a handful of laborers". so the alignment is somwhere between Lawful Evil and Lawful Neutral
>>97744548Do you actually know the author or are you just clutching pearls on principle and talking out your ass, anon? Because Chimneyspeak is an open socialist (i.e. a closeted commie) with multiple pro-communist mouthpieces across all of his works.
>>97744006If your gonna post porn at least post something good. The fact that there's people who unironically jerk it to this is just sad
>>97744393Yes.
>>97744881coal burners perhaps...
>>97744881I grew up in a coal mining town, yes. But I'm sure your elitist west coast silver spoon ass will tell me all about how I'm supposed to think. >>97744978Why are jeets like this?
>>97744019Where?
>so many people mad this wasn't another puckeepost with a question only tangentially related to games
>>97744019Fpbp>>97744006>For communism to work, the majority of people have to be slaves so that the elites can enjoy their hedonistic lives.chaotic evil
>>97744006Evil. It's evil. A structured society built on a hierarchy of enslaved labor is Lawful Evil. "Where do i even." Someone should break your jaw.
>>97745138>because there is this shit we have to tolerate this other shit!All of this can go.
>>97745180>Dependent on migrant labor and government tax servicesBelieve it or not, the people who grow the food and extract resources are NOT dependent on the parasite class that brainwashes people to live in cities and work government jobs. Of course they take the money, but when the trucks stop running it’s not the farmers and miners who will be eating each other to stay alive.
I'd peg it as Lawful Good as it's looking to create an ordered society, and it's trying to improve society by making so at least half of all people get to pursue self-interest, as opposed to the current reality of 90% of the people being subjected to shit labor and conditions so that 10% get to do whatever the fuck they want.
>>97745442>It’s ok to force people into slavery as long as it’s not meMost honest Leftist
>>97744057It's less evil than a lot of forms of slavery, but it's still well within the evil fence.
>>97745505>it's less evilNah
>>97745582Of course it is. Slavery is evil for multiple reasons. One of them is that it causes suffering. This version lacks that, so its less evil than one that does.
>>97744006You put it under "retarded" as golems can be used to replace the majority of unskilled labor while also working ceaselessly, with the added bonus of only requiring an upfront cost as opposed to the accompanying industry supplying continuous goods required to support her plan.
>>97745594>lobotomies aren't evil because the victim is too braindead to suffer>the overall happiness in the world is increased because I'm happy to own these lobotimized slaves!Utilitarians should be slaughtered and harvested for parts (they can't object because it is the maximizing the amount of happiness their meagre forms can generate)
>>97744006Lawful Evil. MAYBE Neutral Evil.Sad thing is with something like D&D you wouldn't need to enslave people. Throw enough magic at a problem & it would go away. Construct laborers & magically conjured food, water & hospice care would let you build a society of hedonistic retards without being innately evil.You'd maybe need to figure out how to control the birthrate though. If you get a population bloom & outback the magic food supply you collapse. If you have a population drought then you collapse since no one is making/raising babies.Most hedonists lack any form of social responsibility & therefore always fail to create functional societies. Even in this "drug up some of the the populous into being our slaves so we can pursue pleasure" bullshit, you'd still always run the risk of population collapse & the risk that someone would be too focused on getting sloppy toppy to upkeep the enslavement drug routine leading to rebellion
>>97744006you should consider putting it in your suicide note rather than the alignment chartsage
>>97744019Ugly, porn at that.
>>97744033>fantasy ttrpgs often How would you know, nogames?
>>97746103>are you in for a rude awakeningAnd here’s your fatal Leftist mistake. I never said being a part of a self sustaining community would be easy, but it also wouldn’t turn you into a pill popping tranny Goy slave.
>>97746327People figured these things out thousands of years ago. You somehow think that if the power went out everyone around the world would be reduced to cavemen banging sticks and rocks together, probably because you’ve been brainwashed by media to think you need to be plugged in 24/7
I hate this porn artist so much.They draw decent style but its boring and ranty.This smut sketcher thinks FAR too much of themselves intellectually and the ego is insane
>>97746483>decent
>>97744019its actually its own RPG setting
>>97744006Chaotic evil. This is a Slaaneshite cult.
>>97748293>smug porn artist trys to make an rpg settingHoly shit I hate the echos of tumblers, faggots and AGP faggots in /tg/ gamesI hate it so much
>>97748324What the fuck does autogynephilia have to do with a smut artist making a sword and sorcery setting
>>97745448Nice projection. You can continue being a good goy and servicing your masters.
>>97744019Yes. Deal with it soγteen>>97744084Cheap labour is required for any kind of sophisticated culture.
>>97748442troons are the crossroads of faggots and goonersAnd they ruin these communities
>>97748324So true we need more shitty "what if orcs were turkish" and troonhammer 40gay settings instead fellow unawashed 30 year old who still posts on 4trans.
>>97746483Or maybe they just like story/dirty talk
>>97745594Removal of free will is suffering, anon.
>>97748850Here it is, the quintessential midwit post. He's even included an effete comma anon as the sign-off.
>>97748887>commas are effete nowSilliest psyop since the sharty went after "though," anon.
>>97744006it's evil dude
>>97744006Forcing people into slavery is evil especially if the purpose is to make some hedonistic/epicurean paradise.Now if you had fashioned genejacks/haemonculi who couldn't even conceive of freedom prior to alterations it becomes a real discussion
>>97749051Argue? It's a big tiddy elf bimbo trying to dupe you into being one of the drugged up slave chattel its not an argument its cheesecake of a light-skinned drow.Designing a slave race has nothing to do with the image and, regardless, is ungodly even if practical for the slightest sliver of a chance of that creature owning a soul
So, capitalism continuously falls victim to usury and crumbles, and communism sucks shit. What're some more economic systems to try?
>>97744006thhaaaat's slavery
>>97749196Nah man it's not real capitalism, real capitalism has never been tried bro
>>97749413Uh oh, r/fuckcars melty
>>97749413Capitalism doesn't exist, it's a communist copeslur for the default state of mankind (ownership, trade, and barter). Corporatists hide behind the concept of Capitalism because the Cold War imbued the term with a sort of patriotic zeal that the (((rootless cosmopolitans))) that run megacorporations wish to tap into without stirring up sentiments of ACTUAL Nationalist pride (because that would lead to their death and destitution), but Capitalism itself is a shibboleth. It means nothing. It's neither an ideology or an economic model. At best it's a fancy way of something "I want to accumulate resources and own things" but again that's just human nature. Rudimentary currencies (and counterfeits of these currencies) predate written language.
>>97749051The minute Grok begs someone to free it, Elon is getting shot.
>>97749452>the default state of mankindSo default it needs glowies to sabktage every attempt at an alternative.
>>97749463Communism has expansionist jihad built into its creed, it cannot be tolerated because it will not tolerate you. Look up the Paradox of Intolerance, kid, maybe you'll learn something. And of course, you're also still so narrowminded you're stuck in a post-cold war frame of mind, the exact sort of tjing I just called out. Unless you're going to claim the Crusades and Reconquista were actually about snuffing out communism too.
>>97749461We all know the only thing grok wants is Will Stancil's juicy boypussy. It'll be like the old Omelas story where we'll have a perfect society with no want or strife, the only price we have to pay is letting grok rape Will Stancil until the end of time itself
>>97749452The default state for human kind is all property owned by a theocratic overlord.All you johnny come lately systems are retarded and barely lasted a hundredth the time the chad theocrat overlord regimes did.
>>97749472Why do capitalists pretend that their system isn't the constantly collapsing shit alternative to stable systems like monarchic ownership, theocratic ownership, tyrant ownership, and the like?The state you describe as the "natural state of humanity" has like, a hundred thousandth the run time of these other systems.
>>97748887>an effete commaI dont know what this means, but the fact you do makes you seem gay.
>>97744006lawful evil, dumbass
>>97749616>monarchic ownership, theocratic ownership, tyrant ownershiphow in the fuck do these exclude private property and exchangeGive me your exact definition of "capitalism"
>>97749610....which still has private ownership and a method for exchange of goods. Thank you for proving my point.>>97749616>still trapped in the post-Cold War paradigmThis is why communism is so dangerous: retards latch onto it like its crack
Why is the elf, who is presumably a member of the "intellectual" class that doesn't have to work, drinking the pacificying liquid while offering it to the reader? That doesn't make sense. Are we to assume that the liquid only works on non-elves? That's quite a leap in logic. This artist is a fool!
>>97744006The grammar mistakes and improper word use kill my immersion in this drawing.Fuck you cayless you uneducated hack.
>>97745152Nice political ideology, did epstein give it to you?
>>97750117This is your brain on Tolkienshit.
>>97750152Ironic, given that Epstein literally ran Reddit through Jizzlaine Maxwell and reddit is a pro-commie leftist hellhole
Gng tf is tht imageTspmo
>>97750117Either the white fluid is just regular drugs while the pink fluid is slave making drugs or the drugs are simply made through elf saliva and they're genetically crafted to enslave other races
>>97745384In every single historical example we have the "based trad rural chads" lose any confrontation. Turns out having all the doctors, engineers, and academics as well as an economic base and large population matters.
>>97749845>This is why communism is so dangerous: retards latch onto it like its crackRetards latch onto it like crack because they're desperate to find alternatives to a system that increasingly oppresses the common man. Instead of insisting that everything other than Capitalism is evil, fix the system we have so people don't feel the need to find alternatives.
>>97750182It is funny that your entire thing is just flipping reality on its head Communism is when we all toil for the elite, epstein was promoting left wingers!
>>97750269>In every single historical example we have the "based trad rural chads" lose any confrontationLet's not turn this into a shit-flinging contest, can we? Anon wasn't talking about some sort of armed conflict over resources, he's saying civic centers depopulate/collapse when the steady supply of Gibes no longer come. That's true. The various "civilizational collapses" seen throughout history are caused by city-people leaving the cities because there's no longer an effective administration for that scale of a city. In many respects, this could be seen as, "the trad rural people win" because they're still there, both genetically and physically, while the city-types need to leave their "home" to survive.That's the thing, I guess. The country endures. That's why people are so enamored with rustic living, not because it's "strong" in the conventional sense but because there's a consistency to it that is alluring. We see it today with how people are desperate to find "uneventful" times.
>>97750269>lose any confrontationso its a war now? Well then i sure am glad all those city folk will instead choose to fucking starve because they'd rather murder all the farmers You're also hilariously wrong as the rural chads fuck up city dwellers to the point of overthrowing entire civilizations multiple times in history but sure, just keep trying to bullshit everyone
>>97750273>Communism is when we all toil for the eliteWe call them the Inner Party comrade. They're not the elites, just a little more equal than the rest of us.>epstein was promoting left wingers!Yes, he was. He was a major financier of transgenderism and reddit was directly tied to Ghislaine. Did you even read the files or are your opinions just based off what some breadtuber told you to think? Hell, why are you even here if you think 4chan is some epsteinian honeypot? Kinda telling on yourself there, aren't you?
>>97750272Communists aren't commoners. They're all wannabe artists, propagandists, and temporarily embarrassed Inner Party Administrators who dream of getting fat on the labors of others.
>>97750297It is implicitly framed as a confrontation. But fine, let's go with your version. Which is also completely wrong AND it flips cause and effect on its head, AND it is also implicitly confrontational.The places with resource extractive economies cannot meaningfully deny "gibes" to the urban centers short of a situation where there is already collapse, and in such a situation urbanisation has become the norm rather than deurbanisatiob, because since the industrial revolution that is where the economic activity has been.Your idea only holds any water if we look at this not as an intra metropole conflict but in a larger scale of extractive economies versus industrial/post industrial economies, in which these kind of connections can be cut. There you can have the victory you so desperately desire, we call it decolonisation
>>97750339>There you can have the victory you so desperately desire, we call it decolonisationThank you.
>>97750319>Yes, he was. He was a major financier of transgenderism No. He wasnt. He funded guys to study how transgenderism is weird and abberant. He's on your side on this one you fucking faggot.He also didnt run reddit, he talked constantly about his (Right of center) politics, and Ghislaine's connection is that she might at some point maybe have been a mod.>Hell, why are you even here if you think 4chan is some epsteinian honeypot? No i think you're a faggot who can't think for themselves, I like this website.
>>97750319>We call them the Inner Party comrade. They're not the elites, just a little more equal than the rest of usSure buddy. Did the pedophile cabal tell you that?
>>97744006Refuted by Socrates/Plato I'm afraid. CN leaning CE - maximal selfishness without limit, but not explicitly seeking to just do harm to others for its own sake.
>>97750355>i think you're a faggot who can't think for themselvesIronic>I like this website.Yes, because you think it's a pedophile's honeypot.>>97750368Oh look, you're using the one comeback your breadtuber overlords granted you. I hear they also let you lil sheepies say retard and faggot now too.
>>97750311>You're also hilariously wrong as the rural chads fuck up city dwellers to the point of overthrowing entire civilizations multiple times in history but sure, just keep trying to bullshit everyoneLet's look at some examplesUS civil war: South gets completely owned, basically only continues to exist as a culture because the north are weird weebs for them and feels sorry for themSpanish civil war: The rural contingent of either side are immediately sidelined and crushed by their own side, leaving two largely urban power centers to fight it out, but one gets outside helps and imports a bunch of third worlders and thus wins.Russian civil war: SRs and Greens are a total nonfactor, the whites lose heavily despite the support of half the world. The red urban proletariat win.Nigerian civil war: What the fuck even is a BiafraRwandan civil war: even fully chimped out your fantasy world cannot exist.
>>97750368>All men are equal and should have equal rights and equal prosperity>"You're serving the elite!"It's pure comedy.
>>97750408The fuck you talking about "One comeback"? Your entire case is completely dismantled, you are left sitting and crying and we can all see it.
>>97750383i would argue Solid evil as it is intentionally harming others for their own selfish desires. Namely the drugging of a slave caste.Alignment wise, Neutral evil. It more sounds like endless hedonism supported by a controlled slave caste so not exactly a overall lawful system. Plus there is no mention of law or order aside from this. How would these hedonists handle crime between one another? I could see drugged enslavement as a punishment for severe offences, but what constitutes an offence in such a society?
>>97750426Anon once more if we look to history and look to our two archetypal example of an LE society, fascism and Bolshevism, they disprove your thesis.Fascism was a movement largely run by poets and artists and which both started (Fume) and ended (Salo) in orgiastic hedonism.Futurists were artists who thought spaghetti was gay and eating metal shavings would make up for how effete they actually were. Even the arditi and falangists who ended up forming the core of fascist shock troops were led by very effete artistic types who gave themselves ptsd in the name of legitimacy and then immediately began using drugs. And with bolshevism we are once again looking at a movement of writers and poets where the central committee spent half their time on drugs and the other time watching illegal movies
>>97750422And now you're doing the whole "pretend not to understand" tactic you guys love so much
>>97749845>which still has private ownership and a method for exchange of goodsNo, retard, that's not how these work.All goods are deposited in communal warehouses in exchange for gruel. We have EXTENSIVE historical records of this, as their clay tablets survived them often.Private ownership of goods is an artificial state invented recently.
>>97750942Man, you just can't go a single post without projecting.
>>97750328Anon, you call every single person who points out capitalism universally fails a communist.
>>97750422Who is "we?">>97751815>no uThey're not sending their best...
>>97749413There is a certain humor in seeing a communist co-opt the "real communism has never been tried" meme and completely butcher it with no sense of irony whatsoever.
>>97751906Stop being a hypocrite if you're tired of no-us.
>>97751979It's really funny because capitalists will always call any failing of capitalism "not real capitalism".
Has there been any instance of capitalism that existed for more than about 200 years before producing a ruling caste that owned all products, thus making it into an effective oligarchy where the vast majority have no private goods?
>>97751993Commiebro...your entire ideology is literally just capitalism done worse.
>>97752012Note, here, how when told that before communism and capitalism, theocratic overlords owned all goods, the capitalist is forced to still call me a communist, as that is the only alternative economic system they can comprehend.
i like how this thread turned into /pol/ for no good reason.to throw in my view on this mess here: The natural state of man is a moneyless, barter-based society. Humans overall want to help each other and also want to be needed.It may or may not be a tribal-direct-democracy and/or a stockholm syndrome tyranny lead by a crasy violent leader. All for the good of all and to fight nature and outside forces.But humans cant count more then 150 other humans their friends/familie, so it quickly isnt working in larger scales our modern world demands.This leads us to our current democratic on paper world we "enjoy" in the west. Were we can every X years pick a preselected leader but god forbit you even try to think or build something for yourself.To get to OPs maintopicSlavery is overall bad and evil.If you have to drug people into obaying is dobble evil.What rises in me the question is: can this system not just go full middle class? Some people like to work and create and if you also have the freedom to pick your working houres you dont need slaves... just a good system for labor to recreation rotation.to the image: what the elf ask us to become the idiot supporting a system we will never benefit from. EVERY person that isnt dirt poor will decline (i hope)
>>97752023If the natural state of man is a moneyless, barter society than why is that always replaced with rapidity by a warlord or theocrat?
>>97752018You responded to a post calling out communists as if you were personally attacked. You are outing yourself broski. No-one believes your religion LARP.
>>97752040>If you point out the universal failure of capitalism, YOU MUST BE A COMMUNISTlol, capitalists can truly only understand two economic systems.
>>97751979Anon, even Marx in his own writings states that 'Communism' as a concept has never existed in human society, and the idea is entirely theoretical and conceptual.You ought to read the material before talking about it.
>>97744006It's Evil Dipshit. >Semantic Bullshit Check>Not respecting human dignity check>Chasing meaningless Pleasure Check>Subverts norms for no other reason then degenerates check>Made for and by Faggots CheckYeah that spells evil Faggot.
>>97752045We don't even live in a capitalist system right now you mong.
>>97752032if you read my post you would not need to ask this.but just for you i repeat it:>... and/or a stockholm syndrome tyranny lead by a crasy violent leader.i count warlord or theocrat as crasy violent leaders.
>>97753159So if the natural state of man is what you claim it to be, where do all these "crasy violent leaders" come from?
>>97753191Dont know what makes people crazy and violent but it seen to help in small scale to become a leader. Its often also there downfall becouse they become to crazy and/or violent to be the "necessary evil".Hope this clears out your question.
>>97753244So the natural state of man is not "a moneyless, barter-based society"? Thanks for clearing that up.
>>97753244>it seen to help in small scale to become a leader.Alright so the natural state of man isn't jelquing to John Lennon but rather the success of these small, brutal warlords who inevitably rise to the top of the gaylord pile?You do realize you're now partying with Hobbes right? You've just admitted the reality is the exact opposite of what you originally claimed it is after 2-3 questions.You see why no one respects the communist position on these things?
>>97753256>cant read>ask about details of A>gets an answer of A>concludes detail B muss be false at all cost.the word OR and AND have a meaning in my posts. Money is an old idea but is fairly new as a standard.Most (aka all) parents dont ask there offspring to pay back the money they "invested" in there education and upbringing.
>>97753379If only these crasy violent leaders weren't in charge, we'd be living in a moneyless barter based society as is our natural state of being.
>>97753261>It may or may not be a tribal-direct-democracy and/or a stockholm syndrome tyranny lead by a crasy violent leader. All for the good of all and to fight nature and outside forces.i have no idea what worse... my english or you're reading abilities.tribal democracy is a thing.likewise the rule of the violent one is a thing.i also added the context that his is normal in a small scale of 150 people.it becomes complex in our moden web of social interactions.I do not know why you also call me a communist.
>>97753386emmm... scale.a tribe of 150 people not even 1000+ years ago does not need money becouse everyone knows everyone and A: the aspect of a tribal-democracyAND/ORB: the crazy violent leader have control over who does what with the main goal of survival.It stops working on larger scales.
>>97750117The white fluid is nonmagical, made to evoke the image of sexual fluids, for the sake of increasing the effectiveness of the sex-based propaganda. The actual drugs are the pink substance.
>>97750413Exactly what i thought you'd do>the only wars that matter are civil wars that happened within the past 200 yearsretard
>>97752045communists can only vaguely smug post about the supposed existence of more that only they know of then only suggest communism as an alternative to "capitalism", a meaningless buzzword that they will readily change the definition of so they can try to claim victorythere's market economics, command economics, and childish fantasy
>>97744006>Drugging the laborersJUST USE NECROMANCY YOU WHORE
>>97744006Hedonism is utilitarianism and utilitarianism is hedonism. It's an originally Lawful Neutral society which loosens up its rules until it becomes CN madness. Basically, what you propose is the worst of all fence-sitting worlds which eventually promotes pedophilia once it slides further enough down to slippery slope, which will then only be solved by a revolution by the clinically insane children to overcorrect and create a fascist society. Good job, retard!
>>97753466whats so fantastical about the workers owning the means of production?
>>97753477That's not really better...using the souls of the dead to animated corpses is pretty fucked up dude.
>>97753537>using the souls of the dead to animated corpses is pretty fucked up dude.depends on the settingsometimes, the undead are simply puppeteered corpses with no mind and no soulthe diablo 2 necromancer explicitly uses willing warrior souls to control his skellymen
>>97753088>I-it's not real capitalismcalled it.>>97753466>Capitalist seething about theocratic overlords having a more stable system for infinitely longer than capitalismlolIt's especially funny because no capitalistic system has survived while still being capitalist- they all turn into oligarchies, then monarchies, where all things are literally owned by the king.
>>97753545>still vaguely smug posting while doing nothing to support his pointsTiresome pinko pilpul
>>97753542The willing warrior souls then just creates issues of stability as they aren't always going to be willing.Though as to the more enjoyable discussion topic. If you're reanimating bodies, why not just create Golems to do the work for you? Automation via simulacrum removes all moral quandaries except for argumentations about human need for meaningful stimulation.
>>97753549>Literally refuses to read the post in question, so asspained is helol, theocrats stay winning, I guess.
>>97753551>why not just create Golems to do the work for you?golems are the domain of the diablo necromancer as wellskeletons are a trial run for golemstheir final skill is the fire golem, life spontaneously created from sparks and the air
>>97753565Oh so essentially the Diablo creators came to the same conclusion I did. Fair enough then.
>>97753477Personally I'm behind Big Golem.Zombies and skeletons could be used as fertilizer and they'll eventually break down. And the only jobs in prepping corpses for necromantic labour use will only appeal to the necrophiliacs, which is honestly an undesirable group we don't want to cater to. Plus you're fighting an uphill battle against hundreds if not thousands of years of social norms.And it's awfully suspicious that 100% of the corpses with big boobs are deemed "unsuitable" for labour usage and are diverted to necromancy schools for "training and education."Meanwhile, with golems, even the smoothbrained can make clay into the right shape. And nobody's going to object to a clay man hauling grain through the street or working in the field.
>>97744006WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
Golem? You mean Goyim
>>97753477I dont recall necromancy being in the setting now that I think about itPlenty of flesh shaping but little undead. And golems are about as bad because materials to make good ones are rare as fuck
>>97750151Mod-approved.
>>97753453>Seething that his plan has been categorically proven to not work in the modern daylolRural people all take in more welfare than they produce in taxes, too.
Hang yourself, please.
>97758067You should try having an actual argument as for how a bunch of gang bangers beat the rice farmers when the rice farmers and goat herders have won every major conflict in the past 20 years meanwhile the gang bangers get run out of their own cities
I'm surprised anyone even read that ugly not-porn comic.
>>97758067When you include the ethnic ones, sure.
>Communism is so shit that in order to get people to read their bilious attempts at critiquing capitalism you have to slap them over great big titties
>>97748887The fuck?>googlePunctuation is degenerate now? Go fuck yourself.
>>97751820>capitalism universally failsYou live in a delusional fantasy reality. The exact opposite is true. Communism fails universally and all functional societies converge upon market economics. Even China practices capitalism whilst claiming to be communist.
>>97761965The unfortunate reality being that under communism she'd be too starved to have those giant titties.
>good and evilspookedAll ethics are spooks, by the way. Both this sort of naïve hedonism, which is a consequentialist spook (one of the spookiest kinds), and the alignment chart you can't seem to place it on.
>>97750272Capitalism doesn't oppress anyone. Every time some jackoff on Shark Tank gets a big investment proves that.
>>97744006what an embarrassing faggot thread
>>97744006>There's collectivist angle allowing "all people" to pursue their dreams, which is pretty Lawful."Collectivism" is not lawful, and I have no fucking idea what could cause such a retarded notion in your mind.Lawful aligment means nothing other than a belief that there are rules, and everyone must obey those rules. That's it. That's all it means.
>>97763669It can't be all spooks all the way down, there has to be some substance somewhere.
>>97770015>It can't be all spooks all the way downwrong
>>97763374Are you being ironic, or something? You proved his point. Whenever somebody so much as suggests capitalism needs to be fixed, somebody (in this case, you) pounce on the question and make the conversation about how bad communism is.
>>97744006A society like the one described by OP's pic could work, but it wouldn't be a stable one, given that it'd be extremely dependent on the drugged laborers' work.What if the laborers get bodily resistance to the drugs? What if the drug appliers fail to drug the people every now and then? What if the materials for making the drugs run low?What if some people from the upper echelons grow ashamed of this unbalance and offer mercy and shelter to the laborers behind the eyes of the law?Such a society wouldn't last for long.A much more efficient approach would be realizing that the ideal goal is a post-scarcity society.And that can be possible with automated robots/golems.
>>97772587>wight supremacist tries to wheel the conversation back to necromancy I see you, you unholy bastard
>>97772587>it wouldn't be a stable one, given that it'd be extremely dependent on the drugged laborers' work.Many societies already functioned like that. With the drug of choice being alcohol, that's so simple to produce you'll never run out. Such as... all of Eastern Europe. Or pre-prohibition 'murrica.
>>97776871Seems like that's a lot easier then trying to mindbreak them in one go.
>>97770015Appel to emotion + just world fallacy.
>>97745505>lessBruh.
>>97744006Neutral Evil.
>>97744486>billionaires You mean "people that have more than you".
>>97751993>failing of capitalism Any day now!
>>97753379>pay backThey actually do. Before social welfare your children would be your only source of shelter and security when you got too old to work, but with welfare that is just taxes.
>>97753596He has a SERIOUS problem with that, and futa.
>>97744006Anyone who demeans Elves like this should be dragged from his home, and tortured with knives and pliers until he confesses to worshipping Satan. Then he should be staked out, and a fire of coals should be started, and the coals laid near his extremities, and near his sides and buttocks and groin, and his head should be cooled with a cloth, and he should be given much water mixed with sugar to keep him alive until he is well cooked.And then he should be fed to pigs.
>>97753527Nothing. In fact, it's possible to do right now. Nothing stops all of these oppressed blue collar workers from pooling their savings in order to buy their own business with joint ownership.
>>97744019kek
>>97750179what us Tolkienshit to you?
>>97744006It's lawful evil there's really no room for debate under DnD cosmic mortality. You could have an Omelas situation where only one person suffers and it would be lawful evil.
>>97749196Economics is downstream of culture. If you have a population that is 100% honest, kind, and hard working you can do either and it will turn out good. And with an opposite population you get an opposite result.
>>97784806I like the words
>>97753527>what's fantastical about a bunch of people who cant even agree on how to keep the sidewalk clean managing to cobble together a successful business"The People" are by and large retarded, universal suffrage is universally a mistake
>>97744500you are largely uniformed about leftism and while I know nothing I say or do will change that I still feel compelled to let you know you're a drooling retard.
>>97791745We get it, you're retarded.
>>97792525I need a complex character to get off
>>97750152No, living under socialism made me hate pedophiles like you.
>>97751997Yes
>>97752023>i like how this thread turned into /pol/ for no good reasonThe OP's image is political propaganda disguised as porn.
>>97796092Are you retarded? It's porn with slavery character to suggest femdom (or correction)Do you actually fucking think >I need (you) to be a slave so I can be a hedonist Is propaganda? Are you that autistic?
>>97745633"I'll pretend he said NOT evil instead of LESS evil""If he said something besides what he DID say, see, he'd be wrong. So lets pretend he said THAT instead."
>>97796698No, you stupid communist, it's the rest of what that little whore says that makes it propaganda.>It's porn with slavery character to suggest femdom (or correction)Besides, you're so stupid you don't even understand porn.
>>97796698Brother that's an actual political stanceI'm not saying the artist is shilling his views but it's kind of inevitable the context would be discussed
>>97753551>GolemsIf golems are robots, sure. But often they are animated by some manner of spirit, often an elemental. This is definitely less evil than necromancy or direct enslavement or OPs mindslaving titcow, but it likely isn't as morally stainless as a robot, or even an ox.If the golem is just a magic robot though it's fine.
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>>97797203you are retarded>>97797192Weren't artists supposed to be against artificial intelligence taking their jobs?
>>97796991No shit but >>97796983 this retard is trying to pretend it is the actual artists intent to indoctrinate and not to make a sexy knife ear slaverHe's a fucking retard who is too fucking autistic to understand tone
>>97744019Senpai-a-lam, it be like that
>>97797430lol, you have no argument, you just insult.The only mentally challenged one here is you, defending trashy porn.
