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Not to be a prick but lets be honest, the Necrons reanimation protocols are sick as fuck and OP too boot.
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
>>97748356More like amour edition, look at those tits. If only James Workshop would.
You got the wrong previous thread on there mate...
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97745840Already done.>>97748084I’m incredibly curious to see this when it’s done. Looking great so far.>>97748370Just wipe the squad. It only feels bad at lower point levels. 1k game Necrons are an entirely different animal from a 2k game.
>>97748356Speaking of detachments, why does CSM get to take all kinds of daemons by default but all the cult legions have to take a specific detachment for daemons? Why would you impose unit restrictions on these already anaemic armies? Just let us take everything by default, damn you GW.
>>97745840Very poorly because I am new to painting. I want to die.
Eldar are so sleek and cool, wish we could get an animation of them tearing apart astartes
>>97748393nice free hand
Do sisters wear their gloves over their armor? Do they not have armored gauntlets for their power armor?
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>>97748424fuck off slopper
>>97748428Ive posted this one time before like a year ago or something and you somehow remember it, holy fuck you are insane..like how are you real...
>>97748424>aislop
>>97748434are you blind, it's super obvious that its AI
>>97748434anyone with a human soul and working eyeballs can recognize AIslop
>>97748434>aislop>autistic hatred of eldareverybody knows who you are subhuman
>>97748424>choas>demon
>so many wip projects I keep semi-abandoning and starting new ones that I've run out of corks, paint pots and alligator clips to attach models to
>>97748448It was a typo obviously you prick >>97748443Demons
>>97748413Thanks. My goal is to eventually do a Bob Ross style desert landscape on a pauldron or shield. Then start working toward more complex stuff. Freehand is genuinely a ton of fun and I wish more people did it.
>>97748451>doesn't use the high gothic spellingand you accuse everyone else of being secondariesyou are a wikifag that pays other people to paint your model for you
reposting my collage entry ~
>>97748471
>>97748491>>97748471She looks stunning chica
>>97748494kill yourself thanks :)
Wait, Sorcerers are on 40mm bases and Exalted Sorcerers are on 32mm bases?Are Exalted Sorcerers worse than regular Sorcerers?
>>97748500Why are women so fucking catty?
>>97748434how cooked is your brain that you can't recognize that shitty AI is shitty AI?
>>97748505Sorcer is a newer kit, and GW likes having marine characters on 40mm now.Why would you think base size has any correlationto to how powerful a unit it?
>>97748520Space Marine characters tend to be on 40s, being on a 32 implies you aren't that big of a deal
>>97748526You're reasoning is retarded and doesn't take into account older kits having smaller base sizes.
>>97748410Have you not seen that animation of some striking Scorpions pasting a squad of marines?
>>97748356>Favorite Army Rule?Dark Pacts are just too cool. Perfect fit for CSM in terms of theme and game design.>Fave detachment?Probably Renegade Raiders or Pactbound Zealots. Both are really fun to play with for their own reasons. I like RR for the mobility and aggression (and my guys have always been a renegade chapter so it's nice to have rules for that) and Pactbound is just reinforcing the themes already in place with the army rule. CSM ate good this edition.
>>97748500thanks ! i painted her as a self insert for my wife
>>97748356I'm gonna talk about an army rule I don't like instead, Blessings of Khorne. It doesn't fit World Eaters at all. Blessings of Khorne should be granted based on destroyed units, not random chance. You get a small bonus for destroying one unit in a round, a better bonus for 2 units, a better bonus for 3 units, and these bonuses only exist for one round, encouraging you to keep the slaughter going.
>>97748450same>accumulate a ton of chaos>put my display boxes and models away and took out my xenos
>>97748578you should read the old Khorne daemonkin codex, that had a really great system, and only sometimes broken
>>97748511No I was just confused, I thought slopper meant something else.
>>97748544that's cute, i remember making some character stand in for my mates and I a while back, but you've given me the thought that i should do one for my gf now as well.
>>97748598yeah blood tithe really should be for the army as a whole instead of being locked to a detachment and only providing benefits to daemons
I like Sororitas X Mechanicus yuri
>>97748471Imagine having bastard children with a retard that paints like a kindergartner
>>97748665
>>97747139>3 Vindicators and 3 Predators then. Sexy, yes?Hours ago, but this combined with Abaddon attached to a squad of Chosen is the backbone of a mechanized Felhammer Siegehost list. Some people play an infantry heavy list, but it really lends itself more toward mechanized.
>>97748680Dude..wth is your problem? I don't even like the stupid skank and even I think this is over the top.
>>97748665Someone posted a challenge for someone to write about a magos falling in love with a dreadnought and even though that was months ago, I'm having a lot of fun writing it. I'll post it here when its done.
>>97748544I should ask my wife if she wants a self insert character. Maybe a sister hospitaler or a guard officer. I do the occasional one off model from other armies.
>Chaos predates the Imperium>The great Crusade and the war of Unity occurred shortly after the Fall of the EldarSo there being chaos lords and power that could be non-human or human pre-dating the Imperium is possible timeline wise right anons? The only problem is for these chaos lords is how they survived 10,000ish years. But there being like a title or position from my chaos dudes that predates the Imperium and Heresy does work on the timeline. I've got an idea for chaos humans that aren't connected to the CSM or traitor legions and were missed during the great crusade so they're very ancient and also not rebels of the Imperium
>>97748716Swing and a miss captain dickless.
>>97748726All humans not part of the imperium are rebels against the imperium. Even if they predate it.
Drones are so cool. Making drones into abstract equipment was such a travesty. There should always be options to take waves of drones
>>97748617>>97748701godspeed mate, cheers dont forgot ur nameplate + high gothic version of their name !
>>97748742I both agree and haven’t bothered to paint any of the drones for my tau.
>>97748539You mean this one?
>>97748726Totally possible, there were religions devoted to the chaos gods before the Crusade. Erebus was a member. Though it's not clear if these religions sprang up, and chaos gods were able to talk to Erebus, because of the opening of the Eye of Terror, or if Chaos could always influence real space that strongly.
>>97748751That's normal.
>>97748757Cool cool, I was inspired by the Praetors of Phyrexia and their designs and how there's one for each colour and thought what about mortal (not space marine or primarch) champions of chaos that are heavily twisted and monstrous for each god.40k lacks big fuck off monsters that aren't true daemons or mindless beasts
so what will destrier bring to the table beyond the obvious size being between knight and armiger, and loadout being an anti chaff ranged weapon paired with anti vehicle melee? and where can I watch penitence? I crave cringe.
Who is the schizo at GW who is hellbent on retconning lasguns into Star Wars blasters?
can you dudes chill? its crazy how many threads you guys go through a day..
>>97748807This announcement got me back in baby, can't wait to buy a couple of these and get started.>>97748835Hit the road bozo
>>97748825I noticed that too. Lasguns acting like autoguns/star wars blasters very strange
>>97748807Their size is kind of a big meta shakeup. They just kind of dropped it out there and didn't establish if these are Knights, Bondsman like Armigers, or some new middle tier type of unit that's not a character like Knights. They're probably going to be Characters for the 10th Edition Codex, but this shit might signal an overhaul of their entire codex for 11th, with more chassis variety to come. I'd also imagine when this thing comes out there's going to be a datasheet, and guns int he box to make an all ranged variant, like the Armiger Helverin/Warglaive, and the Knight Castellan/Valiant.
>>97748825the lasgun has never been portrayed consistentlysometimes it fires a bolt (this cinematic)sometimes it fires a laser (dawn of war, darktide, space marine 2)with how many hundreds if not thousands of different lasgun patterns there I'm not particularly bothered
>>97748846>the lasgun has never been portrayed consistentlyThis is wrongPrior to the Battlesector DLC in Dec 2024 it has consistently been shown in art to either fire a straight beam, a muzzle flash with no projectile at all, or both. It has always been described as a beam in every single book. It's CALLED a lasgun, ie a LASERG GUN. The only time it has ever fired bolts was the 2003 Fire Warrior game.
>>97748846>sometimes it fires a bolt (post retcon)>sometimes it fires a beam (pre retcon)yes anon that is how retcons work
>>97748873As the other anon pointed out it was also a bolt in firewarrior.Are we disrespecting one of the most sovlful additions to the 40K franchise now?
>>97748862nta and we've already had this discussion. Beams or bolts is up to whatever the author decides at the time. GW has never laid down the law on what -all- lasgun discharges look like. If anything a lasgun is a general term for an energy-based small arm in the same vein as all solid-round guns simply being "stub guns / autoguns".Box art for the Land Raider showed it's Lascannons firing like conventional guns. It's never been anything important enough for GW to specify to its artists and authors.
If GW wanted to erase the tyranids, what options in the lore are there?
>>97748889The Ordo Xenos finally crack a virus agent that is impossible to adapt to, and with additional help from other ordos (or even the Eldar) also spreads psychically through the hive mind itself.
>>97748889Literally just have them randomly turn around and start leaving the galaxy and be like "oooo spooky, what are they running from?"
>>97748754That a dread kills them doesn't diminish their accomplishment, Scorpions aren't geared to fight vehicles, that's what the fire dragon's job is.
>>97748889>what options in the lore are there?Something goes wrong with the hiveminds and they all begin cannibalising each other?
What is the general opinion on all this Steel Legion talk? I'm sick of seeing what is mostly secondaries complaining about them not being in the cinematic, it's clogging up my feed.
>>97748911It sucks if you're a Steel Legion fan.>it's clogging up my feed.Stop following secondaries then?
>>97748911Personally I'm not a guardfag so I don't care, but the idea of making a cinematic on Armageddon and not having the Steel Legion in it is pretty dumb and people are naturally going to bring it up.
>>97748914>Stop following secondariesAlgorithm pushes it, but it is totally my fault for stopping to look at it
>>97748889Have the votann eat them.
>>97748926Eater of Hivefleets.
>>97748889The psychic hivemimd network connected to all tyranid organism gets strained too much which then fucks up as the Hivemind loses control, and ALL tyranids at once turn inside out and become portals to the Warp.Ie. Just do what happens to psykers who strain their powers too much.How would you do that, I don't know. But it is Theoretically possible since all tyranid organism are psychic in nature since that is how they coordinate and communicate. That same connection is also what actually causes the Shadow in the Warp effect, it's all of the billions upon billions of organisms talking to one another through the Warp, which then cuts off everyone else.It's like if some dickhead calls your phone 5 million separate times non-stop, it'd basically lock your phone and also prevent anyone else from calling you.
>>97748911I really don't care.Also didn't 90% of the Steel Legion die anyway? Makes sense why they aren't present that much.
>>97748936So did Cadia and they're all over the fuckin place
>>97748543You sound hella gay even by CSM standards
>>97748911I would be delighted if Steel Legion got a new release, but they were always an outlier, they were the focus of Codex Armageddon (I would argue the real focus were the Speed Freeks) and then they just hung around in the background. There was enough inventory to keep on the store page until 2021, and considering they didn't have any new models released after their initial launch, I doubt the reason they stayed available that long is because they were selling like gangbusters. They stopped featuring in WD battle reports after a few years, and they never anything other than a passing mention in other narrative campaigns. IG were about as popular back then as they are today, and not long after Armageddon, GW came out with all the first (plastic!)Cadian sets and that was that until DK came out.The thing is, what do SL have to offer to people who weren't around to remember them? Their aesthetic would need to be reworked in order to not just be DK with shorter coats. A Kill Team makes perfect sense, but not an entire army.
>>97748900>over specialize >get mercd >cry bout it
>>97748911Dumb and Gay, if they're going to make more new guard units, they should be something more interesting than the less detailed trenchcoat and gasmask guys. Other than a full Catachan Refresh, I'd love to see some Anti-Genestealer Guard, that have like hazmat suits and flamers and meltas.
>>97748911I think it's perfectly reasonable for people to crash out in the way they have, and the whole thing could have been averted if they'd bothered to include Steel Legion guardsmen in the trailer. Not as models or anything, just like in a couple shots. People would've hopiumed for a release and then been disappointed after adepticon but it wouldn't have elicited the same level of outrage
Why aren't there more stories of factions hunting Nids? Silent King sees them as a big threat. Orks fight anything and Octarius was a thing. Chaos lords fight anything to prove themselves.
>>97748825Just someone who actually respects the old lore and art.
>>97748980BL writers and GW see 40k as being Imperium focused so there's a huge lack of inter factions relations to each other.There's a few sub factions that do that, LoV that hunt Nid bioships like void whalers, or Khornate warband that LOVE fighting defensive siege battles so boards bioships, kill everything inside and then wait for more nid bioships to try and reclaim it
>>97748949I can't imagine a lot of people were buying the Steel Legion models back in the day when plastic Catachan and a few years later plastic Cadians were far better value boxes, unless you just really loved the aesthetic of them. Same for the other metal regiments.
True previous thread >>97745475
>>97747202>>97747204Who? No idea who you're on about, just saying KT changed direction between editions and it pissed people off. It's certainly not "universally loved" or anything of the sort, and for good reasons.
>>97748807excuse to axe cerastus from 40k range because "there already is a pile driver knight in 40k range"
>>97748936>Also didn't 90% of the Steel Legion die anyway?That's the latest claim in a Community article, though it doesn't quite make sense given that the 42+ SL regiments stated to be there during the Crusade Armageddon book were being held in reserve with most of the fighting being done by Krieg along with having a fuckton of hive militia that could be trained into being SL Guardsmen. Two Armageddon regiments turned traitor as well apparently.
>>97749015they were popular reasonably enough, you have to remember that even cadians were metal back in the day.
>>97748984>flash of light is same as projectilelegally blind... from lasers I presume?
>>97748984Where are the piss yellow bolt projectiles in this respectful art you posted, you fucking retard? I see muzzle flares, but no tracers. I know the official line from GW is that it's referencing the old art but there literally isn't a single instance of piss bolts prior to the change a year ago. It's either a muzzle flash or a beam coming from a lasgun or lascannon, never a star wars bolt.
>>97748884>It's never been anything important enough for GW to specify to its artists and authors.Battlesector devs said they've made a hard mandate that all lasguns are to fire visible bullets now and every portrayal of a lasgun after Dec 2024 has been the star wars version
Tell me your best reasons for Imperial forces to fight each other than "mistook you for Chaos," especially why anyone would attack the Adeptus Custodes.
DoWfags and their insistence that every piece of Warhammer media match a shitty ancient RTS continue to be a plague.
>>97749015Yes. They were in an odd spot where GW were rolling out all-plastic kits for the infantry of every army, and Guard were one of, if not the last to get them. The plastic Catachans box was a great kit, it gets made fun of today because of a goofy face but it was an excellent set. If I remember, right, Imperial Guard never had one particular regiment as the "main" one, but when it's time to consolidate for the logistics of plastic molding Cadians make the most sense the standard.So at the time SL were released, if you wanted something other than Catachans, you were buying metal anyway - Which was fine, but slightly discouraging considering how all the other armies had plastic infantry by then. The prices weren't even that different, I remember the Catachans box seeming like it was a steal since it was $30 for 20 models, and I believe the SL was the same price for a squad of 10 because I distinctly remember being put off by the comparative cost. So, if you reeeally wanted to collect Imperial Guard, -and- you didn't care for the Catachans, -and- didn't mind having all metal models, then SL were your guys since they were modern sculpts.>>97749064High-Test Alpha Males getting into the 40k equivalent of a fight about which side of the property line their neighbors keep leaving the garbage bins on, and shooting it out once the raw manliness on display hits critical.
>>97748911One side is hobbylets and lorefags, but the other side is GW corporate guidlines.
>>97749064>especially why anyone would attack the Adeptus Custodes.GW gave us the best narrative reason for this with their recent shitty retcon. The female Custodes were found to be outside of their designated kitchen areas. If not heresy, what is it?
Hi, I have been away for a while, about 5 months in the jungles of the Amazons.<-Lolwtfisthis? wtf is a starfang?Wait, Prince Yriel (i also just realized how stupid his name is) can be taken in Dark Eldar?wtf is a KharsethSo what did they release that I obviously missed. 500 worlds, Maelstrom? Is this were these new guys are in?
>>97749064the stupidest of reasons are still valid, even as petty as "well they didn't want to credit the glory for last battle to US because we're x and not y"
>>97749102Maelstrom is about the Maelstrom and space pirates - Eldar Corsairs got some kits including an updated Vyper in your picRed Corsairs got an update Huron Blackheart with retinue & Raiders kits plus and upgrade sprue for regular CSM500 Worlds is about Ultramar and Titus got a new kit with a squad of homies. New Necrons coming too.New Ork stuff is coming too.
>>97748742Reminds me the worst value for money of any (non-FW/expert) kit>2 drones>£12.75Don't think any other kit has a worse plastic-to-cash ratio
>>97749107I am getting more confused.
>>97749109if you ask your local tau player there's a good chance they'll give you some of these for free, or at most a can of soda
>>97749115Oh, part of the Maelstrom book are rules to make your own DIY HQ Characters.
>>97748742It would be nice to see the drones come with some new flight stands and bases. I'm 80% sure the only reason they've been retired is the dogshit flight stands.
>>97749119And its legal in normal games?
>>97749064Same reasons humans kill each other today. The Imperium is held together by masking tape and yarn.
>>97749123also it would be nearly impossible to fully refresh the drone sculpts unless they refreshed literally every kit that comes with them, which is basically the entire tau range
>>97749124the rules are for casual/campaign gamesthey are not legal in tournaments unless specified otherwise in the organiser's rules
>>97749124As standard, no, but if both players agree they can be used in regular 40k.
I've just finished the horus heresy novels and ow I want to start playing the actual game. I like the ultramarine the best should I just start a combat patrol with them?
>>97749129>>97749130I see, I see, can be fun to try out with friends. Also since I have people on the line. What black spray paint should I get? I guess GWs spraypaints are still stupidly expensive, just like their paints. (I started playing again last summer, now I need to start painting again)
>>97749132Yes
>>97749132https://start-warhammer.com/
>>97749064Space marines, the Mechanicus, and the Inquisition are autonomous, powerful, and have their own agendas that can contradict those of other imperial forces. The Ecclesiarchy is the same, just less autonomous.
>>97749132sure buddy
>>97749136Reject black primer, embrace the grey truth, and in all things the answer is Vallejo
>>97749132Yes, the new combat patrol gives terminators, 2 leaders and 5 normal guys. Remember dont buy too much at start, otherwise you can get a pile of grey shame, lots of unpainted models. Start small, play small. I started with a Leader/HQ+2 Troops just to play with my friends in ye aulden days of 3rd edition.
>>97749136Chaos black is actually my favourite black primer, it sprays and covers really very smoothly (it's also the only gw primer I actually like).You should get grey primer instead though. Colourforge are probably my favourite for primers in general.
Depending on where Reign of Iron and Armageddon land with rule variations I think we'd have a decent preview into 11th because so far it looks like they are course correcting a bit on /yourdude/ by letting you build up a "missing" leader but also way more detachments for the future will be centered around a specialised named glup shitto
>>97749136Anti-rec for army painter, their primers are gritty and terrible
>>97749141Ah good ol Vallejo. Here have a hat as a thanks.
>>97749064>especially why anyone would attack the Adeptus Custodes./yourdudes/ are heretics and they hate the custodes.It's pretty easy
so do we ever get to see aeldari spiderboobs+
>>97749064>YOU AREN'T THE REAL CUSTODES, YOU'RE FAKERS PRETENDING
>>97749146I definitely wont be buying much it all looks really expensive
Does anyone else hate Tyranid guns? I like Tyranids, but their projectiles should just be acid spit or projectile spines like hydralists or whatever.
>>97749157So do they create new Custodes when some of them die?
>>97749169Yes?
>>97749064Easy, both sides have clashing orders and won't back down.Disagreements over minor points of religion, other side must be hereticsRogue inquisitor using one side as their cats paws
>>97749168A lot of them are.
>>97749168>Anti nid gun anon posted againFuck off Tyranids having guns is literally what separates them from all the other zerg like alien locust races in sci-fi.They're not animals, Tyranids are intelligent hostile aliens invading the Milky Way that choose to not talk to any other race, if they/it were so inclined it could talk to intelligent races. The Hivemind is not inclined to do so
>>97749191Tyranids are animals.
If anyone has a link to the 9th edition codex PDFs, please share it.
>>97749195In the same way we are sure. Tyranids are a race of bio-construct warrior bodies controlled by a Hivemind, the lesser synapse creatures maybe self aware in the themselves. Lictors and genestealers are
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>>97749209>In the same way we are sure.Not even like that, they are just straight up animals.
>>97748911I don't play guard so it doesn't concern me but GW using corpo speak to try and justify being stingy fucks by not paying animators for at least one SL model for the trailer meanwhile hiking up prices for current shit is deplorable. Their new "lore" reason for no SL is also retarded because Cadians are still fucking everywhere and they get used for everything, they could've just said they don't sell SL models anymore. I don't mind Kriegers but stop putting Cadians in every damn story.
>>97749064>tithes not being payed to terra for whatever reason (badab war)>loyalists get labelled heretics, but not in a case of mistaken identity (incursion of fools/fenris incident) >someone found out about the grey knights>dark angels think there's a fallen nearby>mechanicum think there's an stc nearby Not sure if there's any reason for imperial forces to attack the custodes, but there's tons of reasons why a group of imperial forces would BE attacked by custodes and then have to fight them.
>>97749064>Tell me your best reasons for Imperial forces to fight each otherproxy war between two feuding inquisitors
>>97749064this is technically a "mistook for chaos" reason, but there was a loyalist chapter destroyed be the grey knights for an unknown reason, the only 3 survivors of said chapterescaped into the eye of terror, where they met ahriman, and are forced by circumstance to ally with him. At some point, one of the survivors get's captured by the inquisition, who torture him on information about ahriman, they then check his gene seed, find out he's from a loyalist chapter, and send the grey knights to destroy it. Turns out he's been transported into the past by warp-fuckery, and he is the reason the grey knights were sent to destroy his chapter in the first place.
>>97749210Scorn was stupid.
>>97749233desu it's just kinda boring whenever custodes are involved because it's always them in the relative moral right (as far as imperium is concerned) due to being the Voice. At most you have cases where they just carry out normal orders like primaris distribution and ape-brained chapters in nihilus treat them like they're outta their 'hood
>>97748392I see you dilated already, troonkun
>>97749206It's literally in the OP.
>>97749168many people do, the ones who do either don't understand or don't like tyranidsor rather they would like tyranids of they were the "nature army" of wild animals, but tyranids aren't that, they're an intelligent alien species that crafts biological toolshaving hands is practical and modular, both from a modelling point of view and a in-setting one, and easily displays a level of intelligence that's visually understandable to usit's an acquired taste for longer standing tyranid fans
>>97748665>yuriThe only good 40K yuri is interspecies hatesex yuri where one party ends up as the tsundere rapepet of the other(s).
>>97749277lurk moar, newfag
Why is that foid performing maintenance on that armor?
>>97749271>it's always them in the relative moral rightNo they aren't. Custodes regularly do fuck ups and do stupid shit. The rest of the Imperium just bends over backwards for them for propaganda reasons because the hecking Emperor's guardians could never totally do wrong.Like even in the lore it is stated that if there is even single Custodian ever present on a planet or a battlefield anywhere, that battle will ALWAYS be classified as a victory in the imperial records regardless of>what the actual out come isor>what actually happens or>whatever the actual truth might be
>>97749271Custodes are boring as shit to read about because no matter how retarded they act or if they say something stupid the story will never acknowledge it and can't have another character call them out for being wrong. It's why the only times I thought Custodes were funny is when they realize they'd be bodied by any of the Primarchs in an actual fight or when they die in some dumb way on or offscreen.
>>97749316I personally take great enjoyment from Diocletian seething and thinking he could take out Guilliman with the sisters not seeing the obviously veiled threats directed towards him with marines already having fingers on the triggers and surrounding them. And I don't even like primarchslop but I just dislike custards more than that.
>>97748900>That a dread kills them doesn't diminish their accomplishment,>stealth ouflankers>gettging outflanked by a fucking dread>all craftworld's defenders jobs to a single company of the marines>accomplishment
>>97749321The part in First Heretic where a bunch of word bearers are watching the custodes fight, seeing the carnage they're laying waste to but feeling like somethings off, then realising that all the custodes aren't actually fighting as a cohesive unit, which is how they figured out the tactics they would later use to kill the custodes.Custodes are just funny in the setting because it's essentially a bunch of roided out trust fund kids that think they're better than everyone else, even their own brethren.
>>97749206rutracker
>>97749282d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5? This doesn't mean anything to me, friend. A little help, please.
>>97749335it literally says torrent in the OP, how are you this fucking retarded.
Holy fucking shit. The last few threads showed us that Guardfags are the most snowflake whiners there is.>"uhhh these gas mask trenchcoat soldiers are TOTALLY different than those gas mask trench coat soldiers!">"Whats that? Kitbashing and conversion? No, I want a kit for every single one of our regiments!">"Wtf! The laser guns made by thousands of different forge worlds are not all the same throught the galaxy?! Inconsistencies much? GW has fallen...">"The Imperial Guard is everywhere! Except on that planet, we can only have that one regiment in that planet that's constantly at war."Truly the whiners of 40k, even more than SM players, and at least they have the advantage of being the biggest faction.
>>97749341to be fair to the retard, if he actually tried torrenting anything he'd probably fuck it up and get a letter from his internet provider within a week
>>97749355I doubt GW would care, people are so scared about torrenting these days, you don't even need a vpn.
>>97749064>why anyone would attack the Adeptus Custodes."I don't take orders from janitors who can't even do their one job."
>>97749335>>97749341Today I just discovered what a torrent is for, I'm serious.
>>97749358a retard will find a way to fuck it up regardless
>>97749362Custodes seething for 10k years for failing to do their ONE FUCKING JOB will never not be funny GW making them women just makes it make more sense honestly
>>97749367you might need to get back to your homework buddy, highschool will be tricky if you spend all your time browsing 4chan instead of studying
>>97748911Even if you are not a Guardfag or lorefag, it just highlights how GW shrinks the setting and sucks all of the flavor out of it
>>97749367boards.4chan.org/t/thread/1360641Here's a guide, qbit is my prefered and just treat that OP code as a link
What's with all the terrible bait in the last few hours
>>97749342furries of 40k
>>97748911Let me put it in terms a marinepiggy would understand>GW makes a big to-do about ULTRAMAR IS UNDER ATTACK and even gives it a cinematic trailer>this trailer features Dark Angels and Space Wolves but the only Ultramarine in the whole trailer is just Titus all by his lonesome>when asked about where the Ultramarines are, GW tells you to just paint your Dark Angels blueDo you get why people might be a little miffed? Even those who don't collect guard and just hate seeing a faction get shat on?
>>97749316>or when they die in some dumb way on or offscreenThat one part in that shitty "Iron Kingdom" Dawn of Fire novel where a Custard comes to the powerful BLACK queen of a Knight world and starts mansplaining about how she just has to venerate the Emprah and give everything her world has to offer to him, so she just orders her Knights to blast him to atoms
>>97749064>especially why anyone would attack the Adeptus Custodes.That's pretty easy.>custodes: we order you to do <thing that would massively negatively impact you>>chapter master/commander/abbess/whatever: fuck off faggot>carnage ensues
>>97749228>Their new "lore" reason for no SL is also retardedI didn't even pay that close attention to this shit. Lemme guess, Armageddon is too under-attack to ship regiments elsewhere so therefore it's NOT FACKSHULLY ACK-YOO-RATE to make SL minis?
>>97749383and where is the problem?
>>97749329>aren't actually fighting as a cohesive unitwhich then the codex writer subverted with>um akshually they fight cohesively, they just have 110% trust of what the others will dothen again it's not like first or last time that codex writers seemingly have beef with BLslop
>>97749394Except writter of the said BL-slop now is in charge of the whole GW's lore department
>>97749392Marinepiggies cry over not getting an equal attention lieutenant with every other factions' releases as well as shit their pants over not having a primarch yet, you expect me to believe they'd be okay with a founding chapter model range and codex being permanently discontinued at the same time as GW puts focus on that chapter's homeworld under siege?
Custodes never should have been an army, they should have been individual characters that you can attach to your Imperial force, like Assassins
>>97749397not doing a very good job when you can have one slopper try implant a great mystery of breadcrumbs scattered only for codex writer to just spell it out and make it a nothingburger - see terminus decree
>>97749383>just paint your dark angels blueIronic analogy, since those two armies also use the exact same models.The steel legion are very nearly indistinguishable from kriegsmen with a different paintjob and a different hat, so also don't need more than an upgrade sprue and a character or two. Though I will admit they could've at least depicted the banana kriegsmen in the animation itself, it's a bit weird they're completely excluded.
>>97749401They're not an army, they are 4 kits
>>97749407Imperial knights just got their 4th kit (no, the 30k knights don't count unless all the 30k custodes also count).
>>97749421imperial knights are not an army either if anything they're even less of an army
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97749429flying haemonculus for scourges will be cannon for sure bro
>>97749386>she just orders her Knights to blast him to atoms Holy Based
>>97749168While I like the "alien beast" tyranids, them having symbiote guns is pretty unique and fun. I'd like for there to be room for both as well as mixing>Swarm nids>Retro/Gun nids>GSC>Masltrain
>sister order that ritually blind themselves before battle (besides a few critical personnel like hospitaliers) because they believe the Emperor will guide themToo retarded or just retarded enough for 40k?
>>97749446Blinding themselves is very retarded, tone it back like the sisters of the degloved cum hands.
>>97749064>why anyone would attack the Adeptus Custodes.Custards attacked first (secret custard business, basically like grey knights you understand)
>>97748450I know how you feel anon.I want to as the kids say "lock in" and get my printer set up but I have to clean the area where I will put the table. And I feel like an avatar of Slaanesh right now in the sloth (lazy) aspect.
>>97749446only retarded if it doesn't work, them actually getting some kind of emprah vision would be fitting imoadditionally worth noting that some of the repentia wear blindfolds
>>97748939You forget that with Cadia as a fortress world creates and trains so many soldiers that they specifically send vast majority of their trained soldiers off world as regiments for the Imperium since that is how they pay their tithe. It's the same how Krieg does it.So it does make sense that there's cadians everywhere.
>>97749446If you find me the same thing/similar thing in real life (shouldn't be hard) then it's not retarded
>>97749464nta but by that logic other regiments should be everywhere."Cadians everywhere" doesn't mean "there are cadians all around the galaxy", but rather: "there's almost exclusively cadians (and kriegers)"
>>97749464You act like that's not the case for Steel Legion or Vostroyans.The real answer is that GW just didn't care, and then wrote half a line of fluff to justify it.In universe I find it amusing, since it means that a single (albeit large) group of Orcs fighting on Armageddon is able to wipe out a regiment enough that you don't see them at all, but Chaos can't even kill enough Cadians that you don't see them on every fucking world despite blowing up their planet.Chaos are like 1000x worse at killing guards than Orks are.
>>97749031To be honest that 42+ regiment number might mean what Steel Legion USED TO have before the war started, and most of them could easily gotten decimated and killed by the enemy before the reinforcements like Krieg manage to arrive on the planet.Since remember space travel is still relatively slow within 40k, it can take months or years before reinforcements manage to reach their destination.Also despite the Imperium having Warp travel, their own ships aren't super fast, so the ships might spend like 3 years traveling through the Warp, exit out of it at the Mandivel Point in the system, and from that MP it might still take 6 months of travel time for them reach the planet itself.In that 3 and half years, a LOT can happen. Like dozens of regiments getting destroyed in battle.
>>97749475Stop being mad.After all you literally voted for it with your wallet.
>>97749482ntab shitty bait. Merely pretending is still retarded
>>97748911>What is the general opinion on all this Steel Legion talk?Frustration at the missed opportunity of the Steel Legion being returned because Steel Legion are Yarrick are closely associated with each other.Some people like the new guard proportions are have been waiting for older guard regiments to get that updated treatment. Instead GW for whatever reason doesn't want to release Steel Legion or even show them at all.And then here you have anons here either genuinely dumb about this whole thing or think pretending to be retarded as a trolling method is not a sign of retardation in itself.
>>97749475>You act like that's not the case for Steel LegionIs it though? Armageddon isn't particularly known for churning out manpower in retarded numbers, they are more known for their manofactorum outputs and producing war material. Like tanks, weapons, ammunition, etc.>vostroyanRight about this one, but the reason why GW hasn't made them is purely because there's inevitably going to be factions who get left out and not updated. It's how life works.Also the Ukraine war hasn't really helped either which makes all these companies very antsy and cautious about making anything russian related because "muh optics".Is this retarded? Yes, extremely so. But that's just how reality is and how our societies works.
>>97749168As far as I prefer tyranids to have guns they way they currently do, I think it's fair that some people don't like thatthe tyranids range is large enough that there should be a detachment that focuses on using only the more wild looking stuff and severely bars off the rest>carnifex cannot equip guns (bioplasma and spine banks are acceptable)>no termagants, barb gaunts, biovores, pyrovores, exocrines or hive guards>gargoyles and harpies but only with guns replaced by talons>tyrannocyte and sporocyst must have their guns removed>tervigons, but only spawn hormagaunts>tyrannofex, but only with the hives arms>tyrants, tyrant guards and warriors cannot have guns or swords and whips
>>97749475>but Chaos can't even kill enough Cadians that you don't see them on every fucking world despite blowing up their planet.Because Cadia specifically sends most of their soldiers off the planet in a form of tithe.It's kind of hard for Chaos to kill all cadians when there's probably like 10 billion different Cadian regiments through out the galaxy.
>>97749482No. Anyone mad is entitled to their emotion. It is reasonable to be upset when the verisimillitude of the setting is harmed by decisions GW makes when the setting is like 60% of what they truly sell. It's not the sculpts or the rules alone, many other companies do one or both better. It's the world and the stories, and for many not even seeing a still image of a Steel Legion soldier when we go back to fucking Armageddon is a big problem. If they had released a trailed with like every 4th guardsmen being steel legion and then dropped the painting video but added some steps about doing some snipping to make them match more this entire debacle would've been avoided. But they couldn't even be bothered to show them in the completely made up world of the animation.>>97749501War Material like arms and uniforms?>the reason why GW hasn't made them is purely because there's inevitably going to be factions who get left out and not updated.that is the reality of it, but they should've but them in the images models be damned.That's the real reason everyone is mad even if they aren't cognizant of it.
I'm not sure if it's funny or plain retarded that the big whining is not done by the supposed SLfags, but by people whining about the alledged whining.>I can't believe they didn't give us SL>OMG STOP WHINING YOU PAYPIGS REEEEEEEEE!!!1!1!1!
>>97749475>since it meansno, it doesn't, cadians are not more numerous than the armageddoners (armageddonians? armagogetters?) it's just that the cadian doctrines and patterns have been used as blueprint by a far larger number of other worlds and that the cadian regiments are artificially inflated with reinforcements from other worlds that "become cadians" in order to keep up the facade that cadia stands, at least symbolically, it's all propaganda
>>97749529>the big whining is not done by the supposed SLfags, but by people whining about the alledged whining.no, it isn't
I think 40k lacks interesting mysterious objects to act objective markers. Need some magnets to create something like pic related? Why are space marines fighting each other over it? Dunno but its important enough for 2 loyalist chapters to kill each other over
>>97749529as an ork player i just want them back so we can play some kino games
>>97748911I'm sick of Cadians but Death Korps are cool, though at this point both are overused. I want more variety of regiments not less. The Imperium is supposed to be a million worlds strong with how many different cultures spread throughout it? Surely there's a wide variety of regiments out there. That's kind of the reason the 40K setting is the way it is. To give you a template to make your own stuff and show you examples like the IG have Cadians, Death Korps, Elysians, Catachans, Steel Legion, Vostroyans and many others. Back when this was a hobby with people that cared and enjoyed it instead of a corporation. But I understand GW's dilemma. Steel Legion is just too close to Death Korps and I guess they don't think they'll sell enough to justify making them when Death Korps are probably going to be more popular and you can just use them for a close enough version of Steel Legion anyway. Sad but it is what it is. Again I want more variety not less. I wish they'd do a Vostroyan kill team or a small release but I doubt it'll ever happen.
>>97749446I hate painting eyes so I came up with something similar for my Stormcast Eternals to paint their eyes glowing blue.
>>97749550BasedLooking forward the ork releases>adepticon bikers>+ 11th edition boxSweet>>97749548>magnets
>>97749550why are you expecting someone who can't be arsed to print thematic heads for their guardsmen to put in the effort of having a thematic narrative game?
>>97749560i can only hope,anon. its all ive got
all of this couldve been avoided if not the 2 blokes from texas, yet another reason to hate america
Should I go full silly with vehicles for my manlet CSM army? I can print Rhinos, Predators and Land Raiders in the same pseudo-RT style. I don't think I will ever need any other vehicles for them so I don't worry about the aesthetical clash with modern kits.
>>97749560Are these yours?
>>97749569No. Don't do that.
>>97749569If you can print them yourself go ahead, at worst it's a practice run
>>97749515>when the setting is like 60% of what they truly sell.The setting is just marines and their enemies and sidekicks.>many other companies do one or both better.Stop eating slop then.
>>97749569>Should I go full silly with vehicles for my manlet CSM army? yes
>>97749580This is the equivalent of that one "debate" where a youngfag was telling a crowd of oldfags about some of the problems in the UK and the oldfags were so butthurt all they could say is>Go somewhere else then!Grow up, anon.
>>97749584>tempering your expectations from a toy company and using alternatives when your wants aren't met is the same as closing your eyes to the social and political degradation of the country you live in
>>97749583How deep do those holes go
>>97749590This but unironically.>picYou are this close to figuring it out, and yet so far.
Would someone be so kind as to post the canon alternate Thousand Sons color schemes?
>>97749515>when the verisimillitude of the setting is harmed but it isn't
all steel legion need is>command squad>infantry squad>heavy weapon team>upgrade pack for commissars, tank commanders, etc like the cadian upgrade pack
>>97749617Io, all they need is a single upgrade pack with some new heads, they are too similar to the other legions to justify their own range.>but but they have [insert minute difference]!I guarantee there's more differences between the old and new cadian kits than there are for the steel legion.
>>97749617All they need is to print a bunch of masks for cadians
>>97749625nta but how many times are you gonna tell people to "just headswap cadians"?If I went and checked the past 3 threads how many of your posts will I find?
>>97749629>how many times are people gonna tell me that the answer to 2+2 is 4?
>>97749629none, because I usually browse /wip/
>>97749628cadians already come with gas masks
>>97749636I need a sauce on the bronze coils you used for your plasma gun.I like that shade of bronze.You did good on those guardsmen, anon.
>>97749617>twitter NPCs seething about their joke faction not getting the support of the flagship factionyou love to see it
>>97749617>All [subfaction] needs is as many unique kits as the entire Grey Knights rangeDefinitely a priority
Want to paint but have manflu
>>97749440Perhaps it's a blessing that tyranids can be perfectly thematic and uniform instead of having to split their designs across subfactions.Look at the sorry mess that's become of the guardfags.
>>97749646grey knights are also a subfaction
>>97749648My condolances, does up on vitamins, water, and keep eating, also gargle with some warm salty water and get some vicks.Hopefully you'll be back to painting in no time.
>>97749646>priority
>>97749636These are lovely, the yellow lenses on the masks look great. (also you should drill your barrels)
>>97749642>>97749663Not mine
>>97749657yeah, the horus heresy shouldn't have been explored at all, there should have been more kits for normal 40k and actual epic40k.
>>97749666>normal 40k and epic40kSorry, not a priority
>>97749617sorry, all fell to chaos during crusade: armageddon
Guardfags are so fucking whiny christ
I will never ever drill a barrel
>>97749673it will be so fucking funny when chaos gets their traitor guard and they look like steel legionnaires with spikes and ragged uniforms
>>97749548this, enough zone control points-based bullshitI want a wargame where one guy is the winner and everyone else is the loser, not because he won more Sport Game Points, but because his guys killed the other guy's guys, and accomplished the objective.Battle for Macragge style stuff where there's a crashed pilot that needs escorting, or a beacon that needs to be set up. Asymmetrical goals where the objective makes sense for your faction (Marines/Sisters/IG need to get the pilot off the edge of the map, Orks/Nids etc. just need to kill them) and more symmetrical "Grab the Archaeotech Doodad" style play.No more "Stand in this circle to win the game." It's the gayest shit imaginable.
>>97749675I would be a bitch too if I had to paint 400 of the most boring models
>>97749682>but because his guys killed the other guy's guysinfinite imperial knight sweep
what does Arkifane even mean
>>97749682>Actual scenariosAs it should be
>>97749689"Very important guy"
>>97749685sounds like a unit balance issue, not an issue with the very concept of the game.if knights are too strong, make them more fragile, or slower, or make them cost more.Hell, counter it with your own giant army. Imperial Knights vs. the GorkaMorkanautsthese new captcha fucking suck
>>97749689>arkiplay on architect>-faneplay on profaneso you have Profane Architect
>>97749675>Guardfags are so fucking whiny christGuardfags are legitimately justified in expressing their disappointment concerning Yarrick's return in plastic with no Steel Legion.Marine niggas bitched and still bitch about primaris 10 years later. Don't throw stones in a glass house thank you.
>>97749617It's really funny to compare CSM players and Guard playersCSM players are like, boy it sure would be nice if each of the 5 non-god aligned Legions got an upgrade sprue and a unique character or twoGuard players are like, We just got Krieg versions of stuff we already have, but now I want Catachan versions and Armageddon Steel Legion versions and Valhallan versions and Tallarn versions and if GW doesn't do it I will go their employees homes at night and write what I think about them on their front doors.The whole point of the wildly varied regiments was to allow for infinite space for customizing and kitbashing, but Guard players are just like, NO! FUCK YOU! THE COAT IS THE WRONG LENGTH, IT'S NOT THE SAME!
>>97749706>nooo we NEED nearly identical gasmask trench coat faggots that we won't even buy
>>97749583These look like shit.
>>97749617>pls pls just give us jobber nobodies a full range pls plsNo.
>>97749717>le baitnigger
>>97749706quiet down NPC
>>97749717>nearly identical gasmask trench coatYou make this too easy.I said not to throw stones in a glass house, anon.Marines are just recoloured editions of each other with small upgrade kit level differences. >that we won't even buyThis was said when anons wanted plastic kriegers before they came out.
>>97749725>guardfags vs marinefags>guardfags vs deldarfags>but not fags vs GWStrange
>>97749706They fucking whined about Yarrick for years, now they're getting him back and they're just whining for more. They refuse to repaint Krieg as Steel Legion because the gas mask is the wrong style even though they were originally the same fucking models painted in different ways.
>>97749731the basic marine box outsells your entire faction combinedsit down and shut up subhuman and pick a real faction
>>97749731>This was said when anons wanted plastic kriegers before they came out.and krieg sold like shit and continue to do so while you faggots cry about how they totally butchered their designsI can't wait for steel legion to get a range in 15 years and watch you come up with every excuse under the sun as to why you're not buying them either
we, guard players, refuse to eat recollored slop that's why we, guard players, DEMAND that Games Workshop PLC release slop catered to our taste with different garnish and not just the pigment used
>>97749733What do want, some disgruntled fa/tg/uy in a Steel Legion cosplay to molotov their corporate office? Granted that WOULD be based but I don't think anyone here has a Steel Legion cosplay or the upper body strength to throw a lit molotov through GW's windows.
Guy GUYS I think we can all agree here. Both that GW is stupid and tone deaf with their marketing AND guard players are insufferably whiny about getting Space Marine-level representation of their sub factionsAnd also that GW kind of created this problem by getting rid of their generic infantry and only giving them branded Cadians or Krieg for their battle line
>>97749731>no the helmet and gasmask are slightly different and the trench coat is yellow that means they're totally different!!!there's more difference between ultramarines and salamanders than your entire NPC faction>>97749733because the """guardfags""" whining about this don't buy models and never willremember the faggot talking about how he owned hundreds of steel legionaries yesterday then never backing it up
>>97749706>They hated him because he told them the truth
>>97749342
>>97749740Krieg stuff seems to sell very well. Every combo box they get sells out really fastLike, don't get me wrong, Guard players are being massive babies and a full Armageddon Steel Legion release that's just Krieg but with shorter trench coats, boots instead of puttees, and gas masks with separate goggles would sell like shit because we already have Krieg. But they did buy Krieg. We gotta give them that.
>>97749747they didn't have a generic infantry before, they had a cadian infantry same as they do now, the name on the datasheet is not a barrier, nigga
>>97749737Not that I disagree with your point at all, but what kind of retard actually buys boxes of intercessors? They are literally free.
>>97749750>remember the faggot talking about how he owned hundreds of steel legionaries yesterday then never backing it upWe had a SLfag here for ages. Unless mutant chased him off too
>>97749740>and krieg sold like shit and continue to do soLegitimately asking for evidence on this.>inb4 muh LGSThat's not evidence as different game stores have different cultures. >>97749737So? It doesn't mean the guard players aren't unjustified in expressing their disappointment.>>97749725This is unironically valid.
>>97749759Not the one being discussedAnd curiously that guy hasn't bitched at all about this lack of releases
>"These guys are real whiners trust">shits threads for days>baits>picks arguments>nuh-uh>I bet the nomodels did this
>>97749760>So? It doesn't mean the guard players aren't unjustified in expressing their disappointment.Yes it doesWhy should an army that sells poorly have several reiterations of the same theme to clog shelves and waste resources>>97749763>it's BAIT because I don't like the truth
>>97749706>No you don't get it MY specific glup shitto regiment needs a full range
>>97749755The Cadians aren't the problem. GW did this when they made a separate parallel line of Krieg units. You know why they did it, and I know why they did it. But it sets a precedent that makes guard players seem to think that this is going to happen for all of their sub factions when really Catachans are going to be the last one and that'll be it outside of weird one-off units like the rough riders
Yet to see one good argument for why we can't have steel legion and krieg both
>>97749761How do you know?
>>97749760Let's not pretend the dark Aeldari guys are any less whiny than the guard guys. Even if it might be slightly more deserved.
>>97749768>glup shittoAnon glup shitto is a key component of nerd culture since nerd culture was a thing. It transcends Star Wars and 40k and is part of anime franchises that have lasted for a long time.If you don't like it I think this nerd stuff is unironically not for you.
>>97749761I don't think he is here anymore
>>97749771Um
>>97749772because the larper came out and said he wasn't him and 90% of his fake inventory was unpainted
>>97749761In fairness he's always posted pretty sporadically. I assume the guy actually has a life unlike the rest of us.
>>97749769they can and will do more after catachans, it's just never going to be the steel legion because they are way too close to kriegers
>>97749778We are all just ghosts haunting a rotting abandoned house. We don't even know that we're dead.
>>97749776I mean no its not more deserved, eldari shit is poorly selling (unlike guard) which is why DE recently lost half their line and eldar have a dozen cancelled book series (guard have 2-3 book series that have been running for 20+ years). its just some of you faggots were raped by parking lots or vendettas and still carry that chip on your shoulder that you spend all day here declaring guard don't sell or whatever nonsense is filling up here.
>>97749790>retard thinks guard outsell eldarLMAO
>>97749771>Yet to see one good argument for why I can't have more instead of less
>>97749793sorry you can respond lol all you want but your annihilated dark eldar range says otherwise.>no ur-ghuls??
>>97749796trying too hard
>>97749771>Yet to see one good argument for why we can't have steel legion and krieg bothThere is no argument to why GW can't throw some crumbs at their other factions since marines sell so well to allow them to do so.I just find it funny that marine anons here are pretending that they're somehow superior to guardfags when the guardfags in this scenario are right to be annoyed and right to express their annoyance at GW "killing" the Steel Legion.They seem to have forgotten the primaris are king spamming they did for years. I'm not saying the guard community is a pillar of civility and maturity. I just find the hypocrisy disappointing. I hope the majority of marine anons here against those in favour of Steel Legion are just trolls that think pretending to be retarded is valid trolling.
>marinefans telling anyone else to stop bitching>while still seething over Tau and Damocles Crusade
>>97749799you didn't try hard enough to save the DE line which is why half of it is gone KWAB
>>97749800I collect two flavors of marines and relish in your impotent tears :)
>>97749803your own argument would say the guard isn't getting the steel legion because the guard doesn't sell enough.
>>97749793ik as a whole outsell any individual eldar faction, but all eldar as a whole outsell all ik as a whole
>>97749800>pretending to be retardedthey're not the ones pretending to want more guard models though?
>>97749805>relish in your impotent tearsMentally ill/personality disorder
>>97749800i'd say it's closer to trailer trash thinking that the republican billionares care about him and will trickle down some of that release schedule
>>97749810ohh I can tell I'm getting to you. you really are a dark eldarifag aren't you? we already have rumours of chem dog KT, catachan refreshes and new vehicles coming with Yarrick for the Armaggeddon campaign. I'm afraid guard are going to be enjoying many new releases while you're still crying about losing razorbeak flocks or whatever nonsense you DEfags screech about all day in here.
>>97749828you're being clowned on by multiple people
>>97749832are these multiple people in the room with us now?
>>97749771Spending resources on a release is not spending resources on another Would you have the steel legion if it meant catachans aren't getting done?
>>97749828>>97749833Trying way too hard
>>97749771>Steel legion crybabies are literal furfags What a shock!
>>97749833yeah and they have you seething like crazy lmao
>>97749836nta but that's not how it works and I don't know why people keep pedalling it
>>97749838dw, he's just larping to "rep" his faction
>>97749842That's literally how it works, they're not devoting marine-level support to armies that don't sell marine-level numbers
>>97749838you didn't try hard enough to save the path of the eldar book series I'm afraid. Cancelled.
>>97749843Don't try to drag your boyfriend into this Wait till he wakes up to start spamming your infinite dead wolf WIP at every single faggot pretending to be your crush thanks
>>97749841That's you when you remember half the dark eldar range is gone thoughbeit
>>97749848Wait, are we talking about Eldar or Dark Eldar now? Because one of those just got a massive beautiful update release and got a brand new subfaction less than a month ago and has one of the widest most supported ranges in the game next to Space Marines and (ironically) Guard.
>>97749844>literally>is not literalMidwit>marine-level support>1-3 kitsI bursted out loud
>>97749848Who cares about bl slopI'm buying corsair models
real motherfucking nomodels hours
>>97749854>n-no that's n-not literal keep crying NPC
>>97749861Are you crying anon?
>>97749853That update that you eldarifags were screeching and crying about and demanding for 20 years?
>>97749828>DEfags screech about all day in here.DE refresh anon is like the only person here you talks about DE you schizo
>>97749828You're talking with different anons, anon, I'm just saying you're being hypocritical: you can't say dark eldar see their roster poorly supported because they don't sell enough and then try to pretend that the guard not getting a second regiment of gasmasks and trenchcoats isn't because those don't sell enough to justify that type of support.You can't call in rumors about the guard to suggest the guard sells, and then ignore the rumors about the dark eldar that would suggest the same.And that's aside the fact that the rumors you're talking about are either unsupported (chem dogs), or about other stuff (catachans, generic vehicles)It would be like arguing that dark eldar sell because eldar got corsairs, a large wave of aspect warriors and are going to get exodites.
>>97749860a certain part of the world is waking up right about now
>>97749866While you shit your pants and cried over them adding kneepads to cadians and removing your heckin named characters and replacing them with wimmen
>>97749867>N-No... W-We don't talk about eldar here! You got it all wrong!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>97749842it is absolutely how it works, there are budgets and there are choicesyou won't get everything because they can't do everything
>>97749760Guard players aren't unjustified because their army isn't as popular as MarinesGuards are unjustified because it's insane to want five different kits for the same units because they refuse to convert or kitbash
>>97749874>Moving the goal post from DE to eldar in general
>dude they're exactly the same except [list of all the things that make them different]
>I am unable to just 3rd party headswap krieg and cut their coats shorterWhy?
>>97749776DE are guys are 100% more justified. The units aren't even in the book anymore.Any Guard players who wants to play Armageddon Steel Legion can do so right now. Just buy the Krieg stuff and paint it like Steel Legion
>>97749883nomodel daydreamer entitlement
>>97749879Please make that list, I'd also like to see a side-by-side graphic so I can figure out whether I should care or not.
>>97749800>There is no argument to why GW can't throw some crumbs at their other factionsOh my god, YOU GOT A WHOLE KRIEG RANGE THIS EDITION. You have been thrown a whole fucking loaf of bread! Guard players are such miserable bitches, jesus christ
>>97749876>there are choicesThe only choice is "what to do now", and it's not simply a case of "do what sells most", otherwise we'd only see marines and marines only.In short: They can do "everything", just not at once. I find it very strange how you and so many are so adament in trying to explain the ways of GW, without any intimate knowledge but also without accepting their responsibility in how they run their own business.
>>97749893ironic
I know exactly what you all need
>>97749879This>>97749889>Arr rook same
>>97749878It's funny how he combines the space elf player bases when it suits his argument, but separates them whenever the popularity question comes up
>>97749883>>97749888>"just headswap" counter +1
>>97749877>because they refuse to convert or kitbashMaybe the anons HERE refuse to kitbash, but I'd argue that after marines and Orks the guard are the army with the most third party/3D printing bits collectors that incorporate stuff into their armies.Then there is kitbashing after that.
>>97749914I did say to also convert the coats.You can even do a 3rd party gunswap
What does this tell us, /40kg/?
>>97749869>you can't say dark eldar see their roster poorly supported because they don't sell enough and then try to pretend that the guard not getting a second regiment of gasmasks and trenchcoats isn't because those don't sell enough to justify that type of support.Models are made years ahead of time. Even if they want to turn around 360 and say okay we're going to release some steel legion we wouldn't see it for years. >You can't call in rumors about the guard to suggest the guard sells, and then ignore the rumors about the dark eldar that would suggest the same.What do the rumours about DE say? Range refresh. The DE line contracted and is NOT (as far as we know) expanding. This is NOT the sign of a "popular" and "good selling" range. What do the rumours about Guard say? New units, new regiments, Catachan refresh. Expanding and growing. >And that's aside the fact that the rumors you're talking about are either unsupported (chem dogs), or about other stuff (catachans, generic vehicles)You cunts and faggots are very vocal in your 'guard don't sell spiel' don't get pissy now that its turned around on you. and eldar craftworld are usually also bottom of the list for armies played in those surveys while guard are always top 10.
goddamn, the barrels on Rubric Terminator Storm Bolters are TINY. I ain't drilling these bitches
>>97749917>+1
>>97749924Why are you gay and/or fat?
>>97749918people stocking up on that Chaos Vehicle Upgrade Kit before 11th edition launches with a new Rhino chassis and CM get a new upgrade kit for it and the old one discontinued, obvs.
>>97749931>Chaos Vehicle Upgrade KitIt's an awful sprue though, what the fuck
>>97749918That they are temporarly out of chaos vindicator boxes.This means specific boxes with vindicator + chaos vehicle sprue.That's really all it says.Are they out of the box (cardboard item)? Are they out of chaos vehicle sprue? We don't know enough rn.
>>97749928Well, yeah. I'm both of those. I'm starting a TS army, why even ask?
>>97749934It's sovlful and all chaos players everywhere will be the lesser when it is gone
>>97749934it's a decent source of Chaos icons, nostalgia, love of spikes, FOMO
>we've had one, yes>but what about the second wave of plastic kits for guardsmen in gasmasks and trenchcoats
>>97749914>no argument counter +10,000
>>97749943Debatable. It's very tacky and uninspired and dated.
>>97749926Get some imagination mate
>>97749936Why is the normal vindicator in stock when it's the same sprue? The only difference between the two boxes is the chaos spikes and icons sprue.
>>97749949Remind me who's upset & whiny again?
>>97749951A new sprue would be mostly the same things.
>>97749924They're not that bad anon, you can do it.
>>97749954You're asking a secondary to imagine kitbashing, it's an impossible feat
>>97749958the guard "players" clearly
But like fr tho, wasn't everybody like >guard is the kitbash armyLike not even a month ago?
>>97749962You own no models thoughbeit
>>97749958It's still (you)
>>97749945>trenchcoats>>97749957And the cardboard box. They gotta put the sprues into the box and send it to a warehouse and what not.
>>97749893>what to do nowand the answer is catachans after krieg, and not steel legion>and it's not simply a case of "do what sells most", otherwise we'd only see marines and marines onlyfactions get as much support as their sales warrant, marines get a disproportionate amount of support because their sales warrant that, the guard won't get steel legion right after krieg because they don't sell enough and have other prioritiesthey have a budget limit and made a choice to make what counts more: cadians, kriegers and then catachans, and not steel legion
>>97749964What do you want us to say about your delusions?
>>97749970>erm this longcoat is totally different from this longcoat that justifies wasting resources making more guys in gas masks!!!
>>97749954If you had imagination you wouldn't need to headswap. Unless you're implying that switching arms and heads is somehow a huge feat for which you deserve recognition.Enjoy your subpar kitbash anon, nobody is proud of you.
>>97749975>usyou're not one of us secondary-kun
>>97749579Damn, it will take 24 hours to print all the Land Raider parts. It better be worth it.
>>97749972Confidence is no substitute for facts. Not reading your corpo fanfic.
>>97749978So now you're moaning that kitbashing krieg into sl is too easy?You're just trolling at this point?
>>97749979You don't speak for anyone but yourself, nomodels poofta.
>>97749982These look delicious and comfy
>>97749978Everybody is infinitely more proud of the guy who owns a custom army compared to some recessed chin faggot crying about not getting his generic army men on a silver platter all day on 4chan
>>97749885honestly,>NOOOO MUH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT GOGGLES AND HELMETS!!!I filed the nose arch off every single on of my kriegboys, because I fucking hate the way it looks. Anyone could just take a file and remove the ridge at the top of the helmet, and bam you have Steel Legion. If it's the wrong guns, get a kit with the right guns. There are factions who need literally any kits at all far more than we need another esoteric Guard regiment with a thousand shit-ass BL books in their backstory.
>>97749972Stop talking about sales, fucko, the only thing you have any idea how well is selling are the mcnuggets at your local mcdonalds.
>>97749993uh oh NPC melty
>>97749985>So now you're moaning that kitbashing krieg into sl is too easy?It's easy and most important looks like ass.Your suggestion/alternative is terrible, which is why you're fighting tooth and nail to try and brute force it into being decent.Pay attention: People. Do not. Want. What. You're. Proposing.
>>97749998daydreaming failures aren't people
>>97749921so the guard is unpopular because instead of expanding the range it redid cadians, redid kriegers and redid yarrick?>inb4 well no they got some new stuff amidst their range refreshyou gotta find a better angle if you want me to stop calling you out as a hypocritical retard>You cunts and faggots are very vocal in your 'guard don't sell spielI'm literally just putting the mirror in front of your face, you're the one using these same arguments towards other factions
>>97749989>everybody>weNo we don't kek
>>97750006Calm down mohindur you're hallucinating again
>>97749996Yes a lot of eldarifag meltdowns going on currently. Sad state of affairs.
>>97749342I think they should just make upgrade sprues
>>97749998Go. back. to. tumblr. with. your. posting. like. this.
>>97750011>n-no uoh you're SEETHING seething
>>97750011>eldarifagHello rajesh
>>97750011>rent free
>>97750011eldarfags are riding high with a beautiful range refresh and a corsair addition as dessert guardNPCs are crying that their trenchcoats aren't short enough and the helmets are slightly different
>>97750004You carry a lot of shame. Weird.>>97750013>I'm not mad! I swear!Sorry I hurt your feefees :'C
>>97750024Look at how the daydreaming failure kicks and screams when he's mocked by the majority
Honestly, GW wouldn't suffer from all of this bitching no SL models (and other regiment units) if they had the bright idea to do partnerships - or even licensing agreements - with some of the 3rd-Party model manufacturers.Imagine if GW released a new Cadian Guard sprue, a modular one just like a couple decades ago, and a company like Anvil Industries, Spellcrow or even Perry could provide upgrade bits for regiments like Tallarn, Vostroyan, ST, Maccabian, etc.
>>97750011why would we be melting down? model wise we got almost everything we could have wanted.
>>97750030THIS is a fresh level of delusion from guardfagsvery entertaining read
>>97749993>NOOOO THE GUARD SELLS MORE THAN MARINESdo you want to argue that gw is going against their economic interests by not releasing the steel legion?how many people who already buy the kriegers are going to buy the steel legion? how many people who would buy the steel legion would buy kriegers as well with them? the two subfactions are in direct competition, gw has no interest in making a second line that's this redundant, it can only do different subgroups of guardsmen because it can make them different enough to target different people with different aesthetic preferences krieg and steel legion have the same aesthetic and target the same people marines can be as redundant as they are because they actually fucking sell
>>97750030GW is never going to do that lol
>>97750033Oh, it is utterly fanciful, I agree.GW would never do such a thing, for how beneficial it could be.>>97750037I agree
Why should GW put out any models at all. Everyone should just sculpt their own.
>>97750030this bitching doesn't come from customers or would be customers, it's irrelevant bitching
>>97750023>eldarfags are riding high with a beautiful range refresh and a corsair addition as dessertThese are just Space Marines bed-warmers
NEW>>97743128>>97743128>>97743128
This guardfag is just baiting and you're all falling for it
>>97750049>Sisters of Battle*
>it's just the autistic ESL anti-eldarfag againRajesh, you need to stop posting
>>97750051You almost got me, you fucker
>>97750051You got my hopes up and then just made me realize we have another four hours of this shit fit to watch play out before we can move on
>>97750052>he's just pretending to be retarded and you all fell for itgee he sure got us now we think he's a retard
>>97749976SL wear medium coats not longcoats
11th edition launch box will be blood angels on bike vs speed freak orks on trikes
>>97750049>Space Marines bed-warmersFunny how in your fantasy the best of humanity go to fight and die for their Eldar at home
>>97750064>>97750066I'm glad you guys weren't fooled a second time. :)Yes, we'll be in this thread for a few more hours.
>>97750068>A longcoat is a piece of outerwear, that extends below the hips, often reaching the knees
>>97750005>>inb4 well no they got some new stuff amidst their range refreshFucking idiot. That's exactly it. They get their ranges refreshed AND they got new units>Rogal Dorn, Drier, Creed, Gaunt's Ghosts, FOBs, arty team, krieg heavy weapons, aquilons, engineersAn army that only gets a refresh of existing units is treading water. An army who gets NEW units is expanding and growing. Honestly this is not very hard to understand and I think your blind hatred of guard or your need to defend the corpo boot from the icky guard players is getting in the way.
>>97750035>how many people who already buy the kriegers are going to buy the steel legion?Nobody, because they play Krieg, not Steel Legion.You braindeadFuckingRetard
>>97750079how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>97750083Gassy
>>97750079You can't picture an apple and have zero internal monologue
>>97750061You are brown.
>>97750087You're looking in the mirror again rajesh
>>97750090Actually, I'm looking at your family portrait
>>97750083Hungry.People who like Steel Legion aren't going to buy Krieg just because you think they have the "same aesthetic". >>97750086You wouldn't know your ass from a hole in the ground because they have the "same aesthetic"
>>97750094yes yes keep crying I'll be over here enjoying my models that they actually bothered to release while you sit here daydreaming like the failure that (you) are
>>97750031You had a meltdown when you saw the dark reaper helmets thoughbeit
>>97750079The number of slfags who didn't buy into krieg is like 7 worldwide
>>97750056my erotic fantasy is being taken in battle as a sex slave by a 6 3 blond elf chad who tames me with kindness
>>97749960desu that picture makes it look not worth it
>>97750068And what you posted is about what kriegers also wear.
>>97750110trying too hard
Post models
>>97750101Well whoopdie fuckin' do. They released some shit for Night Lords and Tau and Votann and Tyrannids and that's cool and all but I don't fucking play those armies so what relevance does that have?
>more cryingThey're a beautiful thing, guardfag tears
>>97750114It's not directly Warhammer, but I was going through my old project boxes and came across this.I think I was planning on running it as a joke Lorgar proxy, but now I'm thinking I could run it as a chaos lord or something.
>>97750084Dark eldar don't need an update because chaos already exists.We don't need another human skin wearing spiky faction.
>>97750126>avatarfagging
>>97750126>offtopic troonfaggotry
>>97750125those are your tears thoughbeit
>>97750114models
>>97750146heh, stripes
>>97750146Based minimalist modelposter
Do I need an airbrush for vehicles?
I bought the entire combat patrol magazine extra which is 9 armies + some cool extra miniatures like a rogal dorn and killa kanz. I havent painted or assambled a single miniature so far.60+ magazines in. But Iam happy as a chid when they arrrive with the post
Changing tack here.Who's your favorite of the new named characters introduced to the game this edition?>Demtrian Titus>Buri Aegnirssen>Caanok Var>Aethon Shaan>Suboden Khan>Lady Malys>Veteran Sergeant Metaurus>Ancient Gadriel>Dainal Kornelius>Gaius Silva>Amelia Minervas>Lucia Vestha>The Twin Lance>Berehk Stornbrow>Nekrosor Ammentar>Sargotta>The Enforcer>Katar Garrix>Garlon Souleater>Garreon>Kharseth>Kravek Morne>Thulia Ghuld
>>97750114
>>97750163no but it makes them infinitely less painful to paintlook into sponging or stippling if you don't want to airbrush a vehicle
>>97750166>introduced>malys
>>97750028>kicks and screams>mocked by the majorityTrying way too hard
>>97750170Never had a model before this edition. Suboden Khan also had lore but no model.
>>97750068>>97750076>>97750111>What the fuck is a trenchcoat
>>97750114Playing around with colorsThis is such a breath of fresh air after painting marinesmarinesmarines
>>97749446I have seen some really nice sisters heads with blindfolds/bandaged eyes so yeah do it
STEEL LEGION IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH KORPSTEEL LEGION HAVE YELLOW COATSYELLOW COATS!!!!!!!THEY'RE YELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Put these men in chains already, this autism must be contained
>>97750126where that mini from? She thiccc
>>97750166none of them are particularly interesting but the votann tyranid killer has a great model so that one
>>97750202It's 3/4 false outrage and bait, not autism
>>97750156you should see my other army
>>97750184That looks fantastic, were you the anon talking about painting different mineral like jade a few threads ago?
>>97750166You made up half of these, didn't you?
Did you play this weekend?
>>97750184Love the wraithlord kit, so many poses possible, you can have guns on the arms, shoulders, there's even that little trigger bit for the heavy weapons to be handheld
>>97750114old pic, currently between apartments
>>97750068Huh, according to the most recent painting guide, SL wear the same length of coat as Krieg
>>97750200>high cut helmets>respirators>medium coats>lascarbinesIt's like saying Noir and Western is the same aesthetic because they both wear hats and dusters
>>97750204Limbo Division 209, they've got some good shit>>97750131>>97750135What are you guys working on?
>>97750114Almost time for the collage anchor posts, gotta start working on my big stick entry.
>>97750166>Forgetting Lhykhis
>>97750200Imperial Fist Intercessors
the meth korps of craig
>>97750232>the guns are slightly different>the coat is a different length>the head is differentThis could be an upgrade sprue, and the coat ultimately doesn't matter.Once again, there were more differences between the old and new cadians than there are here. For reference, the new cadians had:>different helmets>more (different) head option>different guns>kneepads>different straps>different pouches>slightly longer coats (went from hem above groin to hem below groin) >new backpacksKill 7 billion guard players.
>>97750217Alright who the fuck rotated my picture 90 degrees
>>97750246>gotta start working on my big stick entryPlease don't say that, your models are great, while I spend the month painting something that I'm not even fully happy with D:
>>97750217No. I was supposed to have a game Saturday but my opponent cancelled.
>>97750166For me, it's Punch Rockgroin
>>97750259>the guns are slightly differentBehold, an MP-40
>>97750260Taking an image directly from a phone does this a lot, it'll default always make the longest axis horizontal. I usually rotate and re-save phone images on my PC before uploading them.
>>97750270We're not giving them bolters here, the las carbines are literally just slightly shorter lasguns.Once again! The new Cadian lasguns have more differences to the old lasguns than the las carbines do!
>>97750283
>>97750078>Fucking idiot. That's exactly it.and you think dark eldar are getting absolutely no new unit amidst their refresh just because you want to believe their refresh is gonna be different than your refresh?and expect me to not call you a hypocrite?
>>97750283>>97750289
>>97750283The Kantrael guns are very similar but they did give some of the new shock troops some strange longlas.
>>97750259>guardhaters when they see SL and Krieg>arr rook the same>guardhaters when they see new and old cadian>um well acktually these pouches are completely different from one another and the style of this boot hits at a callback to the battle of kursk when the 22nd waffen ss finally got their shipment of boots from italy
>>97750299you are an ape dumb enough to be tricked by box art colour schemes
>>97750291Yeah that's the longlas. This guy still has a Kantrael
What The Fuck
>>97750299trying too hard
>>97750306>that's the longlasNta but nigga what?
>>97750308Ohhh his the Warhawk fags are gonna freak
reminder that the guy crying about SL not getting new models literally, LITERALLY, posted femboy furry porn during his meltdown this morning
>>97750316oh so that was the deleted image?
>>97750313Idk what to call the Lucius style monte carlo stock lasguns other than that. I know it's not technically true but I don't have a better shorthand
>>97750261The old style is fast to do especially on orks. If I do current eavy metal style stuff I take forever too. I'm sure your entry will look great anon.
>>97750316>he fell for the obvious falseflagngmi>implying it's not this exact anon who did it
>>97750316>everyone I disagree with is the same person
>>97750321>i-it was a falseflag!!!>>97750323cry more furfag
>>97750310try harder when washing your ass
>>97750318It's a m1 garand style lasgun to go along the GI style cadians, you don't have enough kantraels to equip a whole squad iircI think the krieg kit has an actual long las (longer barrel, scope)
I don’t understand this general it’s like 98% imperial shitposting whenever you try to talk about a xeno that’s (Not Approved so basically anything not Orks) it’s shot down by a local autistic eldar, tau, even necrons sometimes. All drama is imperial based for weeks like the wraith bone mineral shit? Barely lasted a week I predict this steel legion shit lasts till a new kit truly is made.
>>97750299showing that the differences between old cadians and new cadians are greater than the differences between kriegers and steel legion is absolutely a valid point because the changes in cadians didn't matter one bit, and so using kriegers as steel legion matters even less
>>97750325It was and I think you did it, baitnigger
>>97750330Fair enough. Guess that's why they got a Pershing too lmao
>>97750333that sure would be convenient for (you)
>>97750308And Halo had Helljumpers. Your point?
>>97750331It will last until the fag will latch onto something else to milk>>97750334This100% the rogal dorn is a bigger leman russ styled after Allied tanks
I still stand by the fact that they could've prevented this by not squatting infantry for guard lmao
>>97750331Besides imperiumoids being yhe vast majority of the playerbase and therefore this thread, I feel like they're also by and large more likely to be really autistic about lore and therefor upset they can't use x mini as y because the coats are too long or whatever is even going on today.
>>97750332No it just shows you fucking faggots blatantly have selective discernment when it pleases you and that differences in the style of equipment or dress is only relevant when you think it aids your argument.
>>97750340He means they are a cadian variant when people think they have different armor in setting
>>97750347The could've prevented this by just squatting guard.
>>97749788stop living in /tg/ anon most people aren't doing warhammer every day of their life
>>97750352Squatting your mother would have saved us from your inane posts.
>>97750217No, but im playing with friends next weekend.
>>97750126This dumb niggie broke his fucking mini and then taped his pubes to it LMAO
>>97750331That’s this entire fanbase people could careless if a xeno redesign is complained about. Like the corsairs had some people say they disliked the update and just wanted what forge world provided they were quickly told to shut up and were told to just add wings to guardians
>>97750314I still have no idea if that game was actually good or not but I had a great time playing it
>>97750361We still have that local autist who says voidscared weren’t corsairs but instead a yanari unit
>>97750359>nomodels can't even tell what tape would look likegrimdark even
>>97750347True, unfortunately for us>No models, no rules
>>97750166the necron madman is the only one that fulfills a missing spot in the necron roster>ophidian lordand also a missing spot in the necron lore>pro ctan faction
>>97750348They only really go into this kind of detail for the Imperium anyway (and by extension chaos being former imperials). You're not going to see people discussing the difference in guardian battle plate and shurikens between craftworlds because that kind of lore doesn't exist for them.
>>97750367>doesn't deny the pubes allegations LMAOLil pube boy can't keep pubes off his minis!
>>97749598Pre-heresy candy red
>>97750361I think the Corsair forge world fans are slightly larger but they mostly shut up on it
>>97750366That's true tho
>>97750350They had "different" armour the same way Kasrkin have "different" armour from Cadians. They just have some extra bits, like leg and arm plates.
I feel like on the one hand it's pretty lame that gw ignored most of the units and regiments etc in art when they aren't currently making models for them, and adding some flimsy lore explanation that your favourite glup shittos got btfo so hard and it's totally not related to the fact that we don't want to make ads for stuff we don't sell is really fucking annoying.On the other hand, fans tend to latch on to anything these days, if they did feature sl there's be a bunch retards complaining that they were promised them or some shit for months. Kind of like the tards getting upset at the 'year of chaos', or 'orktober' in previous years.
>>97749598Can you make a blog about your starting TS army so I can find all the info in one place?
>>97750348There's honestly not enough Xenos lore for most of the faction fans to be autistic about. Eldar have the most by far but even that is of much lower quality and quantity than even something like Sisters of Battle or AdMech.
>>97750349it's not selective, the differences in both are taken into account, the point is that neither fucking matters, you're the one crying that the split hair of the steel legion are some kind of sacred cow that should be preserved and catered to otherwise the setting is raped
>>97750373I'm not himalso>doesn't deny the nomodels allegationswhat a shock!
>>97750366Thats been a theory for a while. That they were ynarri, but then GW ditched ynarri and decided to repurpose the base sculps for corsairs later on.
>>97750215Yes. Wanted to do a box of Wraithguard and try a few different styles on their heads but lgs only had the one lord so I picked my favorite rock.
>>97750381Your crying about SL totally deserving a model range isn't getting enough attention anymore huh
>>97750386>i-im not him!Lol, COPECoping lil pube boy with his gross pube-riddled broken minis LMAO
Imagine the shitfest if they revealed a mordian iron guard kill team
>>97750382and the lore that does get written for xenos factions is usually only written by one or two dudes per faction, so is entirely dictated by their shitty ideas and personal headcanons
>>97750385Why even have anything different? Why don't we just write "infantry" on a fucking cardboard chit? Slippery slope appeal to absurdity w/e but give GW a couple of editions and that's what we'll have lmao
>>97750385If you're arguing that the SL and Krieg helmets are the same while the cadian ones are hugely different from one another then you are not arguing in good faith and should not be taken seriously.
>>97750380I think GW should have admitted they weren’t making them to off set this drama They keep changing lore to explain imperial miniature reasoning but never do that for xenos>Snakebitez are mostly beast snaggas>Corsairs look like this now Etc primaris needed lore, the heresy marine armor changes needed lore justification, it’s like they only do this for imperial shit
>>97750392I'm not the anon crying about SL, I'm the guy who sold you a poisoned sandwich last Tuesday
>>97750399they're more similar than old and nu cadian helmetsyou can cry all you want
>>97750394I think the new vehicles that are rumoured are just going to be painted in different regimental colours and transfers and people are going to get a little upset that it isn't a mordian kill team lol
>>97750385hyperboles are not helping you seem sane
>>97750399that's not the argument, the argument is that there are differences, but the differences are not enough to matternobody is asking for a second wave of cadians that redo their old design againnobody should expect gw to make a second wave of slightly different kriegers
>>97750403You can go fuck your whore mother.
>>97750399I'm nta, but I am the anon that made the cadian helmet comparison, and I've literally been advocating for headswap+upgrades the entire time. You're just a retarded ape with low reading comprehension and poor logic skills.
>>97750403Nah that's cap, Cadian helmets are like the difference between an ACH and a PASGT; while Krieg have fucking Pickelhaubes and SL have Stalhelms and high cuts.
>>97750407>I don't see it>So you can't see itA child
>>97750400They feel imperial fans won’t accept it if lore doesn’t give a reason. Xenofags have little say over imperial sales
>>97750380It's fine to say that it's too soon after Krieg for SL to get kits, but nobody was forcing GW to rehash Armageddon again.
>>97750416>>I don't see itthat's not the arguementI see the differences they don't matter
>>97750359>>97750367>tapeThats just some milliput, the mace staff came seperate and it was too much of an effort to heat up and repostion so I just filled the gap in, still need to sand it down.>PubesLooks like a huntsman hair, I tend to leave them alone around my project area since they're chill and don't normally make a mess. and my pubes are a lot thicker than that
>>97750425>they don't matterSo it is the same argument: "I decide what's allowed/important/worth it".No, you don't. Get mental help.
>>97750400The drama isn't JUST wanting a new range though, it's also that the Steel Legion are being completely sidelined in lore about their own world.
>>97750429>get mental help>says the nomodels subhuman spending days crying about the coats and helmets on dollies he won't ever own
>>97750430But that’s what i meant why do lack of models mean lore changes
>>97750431You own no models and you don't belong here, little faggot
You'll own no model and you will be HAPPY.
>>97750434the sad attempt at projection lmao
>>97750354Guard have routinely caused major problems for pretty much every edition of 40k.If they never existed it would have been better, and all of the potential guard players would probably be happier playing bolt action or flames of war.
>>97750431hellblasters
>>97750431Yes, calling people nomodels subhuman and projecting your own 24/7 shitposting is exactly how you disprove needing mental help. Incredible.I think your parents should be liable to everyone in this thread.
>>97750331The thing we can all learn is that your response to upset fans isn’t killing off their sub-faction out of spite for the backlash.
>>97750429>"I decide what's allowed/important/worth it".no, that's what you're trying to argue, I'm telling you what's the opinion of the people who are actually in charge and already took this decision you can only cry about the fact that what you think matters factually doesn't
>>97750381Maybe, but if I go with a unique color scheme I don't think I'd want to post them here. I wouldn't want anybody to be able to prove I've ever posted here.
>>97750436Yeah that was you throughbeit>says the nomodels subhuman spending days crying
>>97750431You really upset the tourists with this one
>>97750443See>>97750438
>>97750437That's eldar actually with their mass plasma spam and wraithknights and fortune dice and battle brother tau and... etc etc
>>97750438Decalpedo is pro-sl but nice try
>>97750442is that timothy chalamet erebus
>>97750441You don't know anything about the opinion of the people in charge, faggot.
>>97750441>noyesevidence: this entire thread
>>97750440I seriously hope orks fully reconquer armageddon now, turn the steel legion into the still legion, and spit on their grave forever
>>97750446I want you to think real hard about why Tau is an Eldar problem
>>97750431>>97750444least blatant troon samefag
>>97750453Same player base, they’re not having fun if they’re not ruining someone else’s
>>97750450Do you think they're going to announce the steel legion any day now?
>>97750455You're really proving him wrong by seething even harder
>>97750452>the still legionkek okay this made me laugh
>>97750458and you're proving him right, self-defeating
The solution is simple - Steel Legion Kill TeamHear me out for a second. Now that Kill Team introduced rotation into the game the Veteran Guardsmen/Death Korps box (AKA the old Krieg box) is no longer a "tournament viable" KT. The remaining Guard teams include:>Kasrkin>Tempestus Aquilons>RatlingsKasrkin are next in line to get the boot, and once they're out Guard will be left with two kinda hyper-focused KTs (Jumppack troops and trap-laying snipers). Enter the Steel Legion KT, acting as the "Vanilla Guard Regiment" kill team Veteran Guardsmen/Death Korps used to represent in terms of rules. People buy up boxes to kitbash the bodies with existing kits to make full Steel Legion armies like people did with the old Krieg box, while GW uses the performance of how well the box does to determine whether people would want a range release (HWT, Command Squad, and an upgrade sprue for tank commanders and the like are all they really need, if they REALLY want to go balls deep then they could make an Armageddon pattern Basilisk I guess). It's as shrimple as that.
>>97750457How much time passed between community backlash to Yarrick's "death" and the announcement of his new model.
>>97750463>krieg ktThey're already gone. The current kit is 40k only and doesn't have the upgrade sprue
>>97750308And?That's just them in their BDUs, chilling between missions.What, you think soldiers just sit around their bases in full combat gear all the time?
>>97750463I still think this whole thing wouldn’t have happened if GW dropped either a marine type upgrade sprue, or a conversion tutorial
>>97750469They did a conversion tutorial and caused these tantrums
>>97750464yarrick didn't get a model update because of any backlashthe steel legion isn't getting a release no matter how hard you cry
>>97750463Catachan would make way more sense.
>>97750463Realistically this is the max we'd get and is actually all anyone is really asking for. I don't wanna play armchair psychiatrist but I just don't understand this idea of pushing an army on someone who doesn't fucking want to play it.
>>97749598The 8th ed codex has more
>>97750400>the heresy marine armor changes needed lore justification,Oh I missed that, like how mark 3 or cataphractii got redesigned and stuff?
>>97750470It was just a painting guide wasn’t it?
>>97750450GW didn't make any specific steel legion shit and told you to use kriegers, so you know their opinion already, you're just in denial.
>>97750469>I still think this whole thing wouldn’t have happened if GW dropped a conversion tutorialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KE-TPVJUSU
>>97750469Did you forget the shit fit blood angels fans threw over the "new" death company?
>>97750474ooh, I like those Hermetic Blades colors...
>>97750475>camo SLBased
>>97750474>gold and blue>blue and gold>sometimes the gold is more or less saturated >sometimes the blue is more or less bright >sometimes we pretend we in the hh stillwow, thank god tzeentch is the lord of change and endless imagination
>>97750480>tell someone to play another army>get surprised when they don't want to play another army I'm not sure what the strategy was behind that
>>97750483Those are marine players, if they don’t get 60 kits an edition they’re abandoned
>>97750465Did you miss the part where I kept saying the Krieg Kill Team isn't a thing anymore? My whole point is a SL box could fill the Krieg box's old "We're just regular-ass Guardsmen" vibe. >>97750472They're 100% getting a full range refresh in 11th anyways, why waste a KT slot with them? Only way I could see it happening is if the next KT setting is a jungle world.
11th will have another vote campaign to actually dictate the state of Armageddon Total imperial victory or total ork victory Will this fanbase vote imperium to save steel legion or will they want to give Xenos another win? Oh wait they don’t since this fanbase is selective in their bias. The ultramarines aren’t on Armageddon it’s the heckin wholesome blood angels and they don’t stand to see Armageddon lost because marine wank is okay when it’s not blue
>>97750483I don't think we've had a 40k release that didn't have a portion of that fanbase throw a shitfit about. I was about to say SoB but then I recalled the man face complaints lol
>>97750483That's infinitely more justified because they WON'T get anything for 10+ years nowin fact, I hope steel legion get a release and it's as dogshit as the blood angels refresh so you faggots can suffer like we did
>>97750463and get the spot from catachans? fuck off
>>97750446Nah, Eldar are a skill check army, guard is just an army that breaks the fundamentals, e.g. points, CP, blast templates, etc
>>97750489>another armyguard is guard, faggot
>>97750491>did you miss ityour honor, my client claims oopsy daisies
>>97750483Okay but outside of the big refreshes blood angels got the worst ones
>>97750489>another armyit's not a different army, it's guardsmen in masks and coats
>>97750496Just covert anon there are tons of good proxies for BA
>>97750505Yeah I did because I'm not a hobbylet nomodels faggot like (you)
>>97750488When was the last time you felt joy?And no, lying to me and yourself doesn't count.
>>97750499>>97750504You see, that's exactly the problem. That's the way GW sees it
>>97750483>>97750503>Black Templar update - PEAK >Dark Angel update - It’s aight still waiting >Space Wolf update - it’s actually better than older space wolf models >Blood Angel update - utterly phoned in
>>97750491>They're 100% getting a full range refresh in 11th anyways, why waste a KT slot with them? Only way I could see it happening is if the next KT setting is a jungle world.Yea that would be weird, dedicating a KT release to a specific IG regiment when you were just going to release like another 4-5 kits for them a couple years later. Can't imagine GW doing that.
>>97750508That's how it IS you fucking retardYou aren't space marines, your krieg are no different from your cadians or your non-existent steel legion
>>97750488You know you are allowed to make your own completely different scheme, right? GW won't send a hit squad to your home for doing purple and silver or whatever
>>97750493it's not the marines defending the world that matter, it's the world itselfoghram was a literal no(celestial)bodyarmageddon is a planet with a lot of beloved fluff and characters attached to itput the most hated chapter in defence of the most beloved world and everyone will vote to save that world put the most beloved chapter in defence of the most irrelevant world and people will destroy that world
>>97750491>They're 100% getting a full range refresh in 11th anyways, why waste a KT slot with them?Like exactly what they did with Krieg?And Kroot?And Corsairs?
>>97750513If Krieg aren't different than Cadians why do they have different datasheets?
>>97750513>your krieg are no different from your cadiansnta but both have distinct datasheets
>>97750508that's the way it objectively is, you only have a different opinion because you have a mental condition, literal faction dysphoria
>>97750506Post model
>>97750530Sure, won't make your tantrum any less pathetic
>>97750522because the modern guardfag is too dumb to understand they can use any guardsman model to represent a guardsman unitthey are so dumb they need to be reminded they can paint their models differently and have them represent a different subfactionwhen gw was doing the spot for the brand change of the paint pots, they weren't thinking "how do we make it retard proof?" they were thinking "how do we make it guardfag proof?"
>>97750361>>97750376I wanted forgeworld styled Corsairs and was told to shut up and I did Guard fags are crying to the point they’ll maybe go play an actual historical game for once but won’t
>>97750537You spew all this nonsense and when I bring my all catachan army to a game your stupid ass will start with>why are you using catachan for krieg? why are you using catachans for cadians? don't you know you should get the proper models?Fuck off!
>>97750497Catachan is a range actually deserving a full range, and they are 100% getting it within the next 2-3 years given how 10E Guard's codex is written up. Right now out of some vehicles they have the oldest plastic minis still being sold for 40k. They'll get the whole soup that Krieg got >Command Squad>HWT>Default troop>Devil Squads as a new Grenadiers/Kasrkin like elite unit>new mini for Straken or some other Catachan HQ>Maybe that rumored half-track is for their release IDK>>97750512>>97750520Krieg/Corsairs are a different boat from Kroot, the former are GW testing the waters to see if people want more of a "niche" aspect of that army, while Kroot are just an update of an old plastic model. Catachan fall more into the latter, though again with how Guard's 10th edition codex kept all the Catachan datasheets (Minus characters like Straken) around despite the models being 25+ years old at this point tells me that all of Catachan is getting dropped in a single wave.
>>97750535the guard helmet on the base is kind of fitting considering whats going on in the thread
>>97750544>look at me inventing scenarios to justify my toddler-tier temper tantrum
>>97750544Nobody said that or will ever say that, and chances are you will never buy a catachan army, let alone use krieg rules for them.
>>97750544It seems you aren't the only retard in your LGS, it must be something in your water supply.Nobody in my local groups is that much of a faggot, and I know actual homosexuals.
>>97750549>They'll get the whole soup that Krieg gotWhich includes a kill team.Catachans deserve one more than most.
>>97750371people sperged out over differences in new vyper
>>97750537No, you can't, because they took out the fucking datasheet than let you represent any regiment.Yes, I know GW just told you to run Chem Dogs as Kriegsman but that just means you're playing Krieg with extra steps. I don't wanna fucking play Krieg.
>>97750563you cannot picture an apple
>>97750561I find it's different enough that they could be different units, which is good in my book
>>97750564I don't fucking go around calling apples oranges, now do I?
>>97750572>this granny smith isn't an apple apples are only red deliciouses!
>>97750561It is substantially larger then the old one. The real problem is the Vyper has never been good and the new model didn't do anything to help fix that. It's arguably worse now because you can't even hide it effectively anymore.The alternative build is a bit more interesting but still not really all that great.
>>97750574Fucking lmaoI hope you bake a pie with honeycrisps you fucking moron
>>97750493You have to buy the box to voot and I'm not interested in orks. Especially at whatever wartime prices they'll be charging.
>>97750549>while Kroot are just an update of an old plastic model.Kroot got a lot more than this. They got several new units on top of an upgrade of old Carnivores, Krootox Rider and Hounds.
>>97750563Why do you give a shit what names are on the datasheets? If your models are chem dogs, they are chem dogs, it shouldn't matter if they use krieg rules, or cadian rules, or fucking genestealer rules.
>>97750584Fair enough, I'll run my Sisters of Battle as Krieg then
>>97750558Krieg's KT came out in 2021, 4 whole years before the plastic Krieg range. The Corsairs came out in 2022 and then we got the full range just this year. The point I'm trying to get across is that if there's a Catachan KT this year then we wouldn't get a full Catachan wave until like 2029-2030. If GW's plan for Guard is Cadians in 9th, Krieg in 10th, and Catachan in 11th we'd ideally get that refresh sometime in the first two years of 11th's release, so like 2028 at the latest.
>>97750563you know what's funnymarinefags never say>I can't run as crimson fists this says black templars!
No one has ever given a fuck about the steel legion until this week
>>97750592They do actually. You know why? They didn't squat marines' basic fucking infantry
>>97750306Do you lads think the guardsmen lasguns got longer so that lasguns in the previous guardsmen "barrel length" could be classified as carbines?
>>97750596To be fair nobody gives a fuck about anything unless there is a problem, and the problem of the Steel Legion possibly never coming back is a problem so naturally people are going to bring them up.
>>97750598They don'tAnd they didn't squat yours either :)
>>97750561>people spergednot really, no
>>97750563>No, you can't, because they took out the fucking datasheet than let you represent any regiment.and gave you two to represent any regiment
FOR ARMAGEDD-ACK
>>97750616Mossa predicted this
>>97750610They can fucking take them back because I don't play those regiments
I miss those small thematic formations like Helcult. Fielding a Helbrute with two units of Cultists that worship him as a living idol of Chaos Gods and act as his meat-shields is simply cool as fuck.
>>97745535Update:The commissioner told me to pay 700+USD for the STLs of Major as Krieg Commissar and Creed. Not sure if I fumbled the ball in being too descriptive or if this is legitimately the standard pricing for sculpting models with 3D printing intentions or if I have to look to another sculptor. Either way I wish I was rich enough to justify paying that much.I just have a 3D printer+wash curing station and table for getting into this hobby.I do not know of other STL specializing sculptors so it seems I will be relegated to daydreaming failure now with this whole thing.
>>97750624>I don't play any regiment I know, that's why people consider your whinings pointless
>>97750607Technically correct. I got lucky because I play Catachan.
>>97750626I got my own OC sculpted by hand and cast in metal by a good artist for free simply because I pitched a good ideamust suck to be you
>>97750631You don't play anything
>>97750626That's pretty standard for any decent 3d modelingYou're talking 20+ hours of work easily700 dollarydoos is 35 an hour if they worked a bare minimum of 20 to complete the sculpt
>>97750516>he doesn't knownobody tell him.
>>97750427>spoiler h-how thick are we talking?
>>97750635>I got my own OC sculpted by hand and cast in metal by a good artist for free simply because I pitched a good ideaThat sounds like a complete lie. Only absolutely undeniable proof can turn that statement into fact and further increase my pain and disappointment.>must suck to be youYeah I grew up into Bionicle and a few years after Bionicle ended I moved to Warhammer 40k. And I'm not rich enough to consider this kind of money spending because I need a new phone to replace my iPhone 6s I've had for years.And I'm not a middle eastern Oil Baron's kid so I have to actually exercise responsibility with my money spending.It all sucks man.
>>97750491>Only way I could see it happening is if the next KT setting is a jungle world.It's too early for a new KT edition, and it seems like for once the pre-edition launch narrative is being carried through into the new edition (specifically Armageddon). Armageddon is notable for having their equatorial belt being dominated by heavy jungle, and is the home for the only other notorious jungle combat specialist regiment besides Catachan. While an Ork Hunters KT would also be cool, however, much like how Steel Legion is being treated I can't imagine they would pass up the more recognizable Catachan regiment in favor of them.
Almost finished the blood herald. Its just the backpack left and I havent decided if I wanna try and power through with it today or leave it for next sunday when I have time again.How's the khorne rune looking? took me a bit of finetuning to get it right
>>97750647Don't get me wrong.I was expecting a heavy price because 3D sculpting is no joke. And with the threat of AI looming over the heads of artists it only makes them more paranoid and I think that affects the price's size in how much it has been increased.I'm just behind the times despite not being 30 yet and I don't have a grasp of how much the standard is for art related commissions. With 2D drawings it varies heavily, but 3D sculpting especially with 3D printing miniatures in mind is a real beast.
>>97750695>>97750695
>>97750706Early threads are pretty gay
>be TS player>want to use crucible to make a cool dreadnought character>"too bad, here are two different tzaangor sheets!"
>>97750798Tzzangor lives matter.
>>97749750i dug these out of my loft just to prove you wrong.>>97749759i am unfortunately not that anon.i am also autistically huge about Steel Legion
>>97750626>700 bucksThat's steep, could always ask for ways to reduce it, otherwise either accept or find someone else, no shame in that.
>>97749206Orkz are the same height as humans?
>>97751638with the hunch, yeah
Alright magnetizers, I need some advice. Working on building this new Red Corsairs kit and the Captain's pistol options are on these flattish pieces. How would you go about installing magnets in them effectively, or would you just not bother?
>>97754673warhammer people are way too fucking retarded with their magnet obsessionJust fucking drill 2mm holes and stick a 2mm rod through
