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>>97748922
CGL, if you have to make AU boxes please make quad dinobots AU
What's the BT equivalent of Hormuz?
>>97748961Chesterton
Noob question. Are things like PPC Capacitors that aren't specifically ammo subject to ammo explosion rolls on the heat chart?
Anyone going to Adepticon?
>>97749016A friend of mine
Aside from obvious cases where you'd need them how often do you bring jump jets?
>>97749110My general purpose lance building guidelines require at least two jump capable mechs: one at least a 5/8/5 and one at least a 6/9/6.
>>97749004No? Because those don't explode when they get hot enough. They explode when someone damages the capacitors and all the energy violently escapes.
>>97748922So what happened with battletech gothic? is it kinda gone now?
>>97749307What's the pretzel thing a reference to, again?
>>97749365Steiner.Remove Kebab ~ Remove Pretzel.
>>977493071 or 2 abominations box and that's it; rockets and raygun box next
>>97749307It was a quirky diversion. I like the idea of abominations and biohorror mechwarriors. If they mindwiped protomechs from the multiverse and slammed abominations into their spot, I'd be cool with it.Interestingly, the novel that comes with the boxset heavily implies the abominations used captured mechwarriors as wombs. And there's plenty of human-abomination hybrids proliferating on some planet I think the Steiners want, and the Combine own but ignore. I may have it backward. They've proven they can go feral and build a "society" of freaks like that layer of the made in abyss anime. ..coincidentally also powered by rape and abortions.
If catalyst really wanted to make money, instead of retconning the rommel into nonexistence and blabbering about acceptance of faggorinos, they would just lean into the potential for wehraboo "no-no I just like prussian aesthetics and the kaiser!" vibes that steiner has potential for that braindead krieger fans and warthunder big cat players salivate overmaybe it would even ensure that there's some fucking VEE lances at any one of the THREE LGSs that are all dozens of miles apart from each other while gas prices are through the roof.I'm starting to wonder what the point of an LGS even is if you have friends because ordering things online is cheaper and almost always available and I can smoke inside and eat frozen pizzas if I'm playing with my friends at home
>>97749591>what the point of an LGS even is if you have friendsCame to this conclusion a decade ago, myself.
>>97749591>they would just lean into the potential for wehraboo "no-no I just like prussian aesthetics and the kaiser!" vibes that steiner has potential for that braindead krieger fans and warthunder big cat players salivate over
>>97749110as often as possible
>>97749591The Rommel is still canon it's just an artillery tank now
>>97749591Let's be real, there's going to be at least one, if not dozens of, periphery states rocking the swastika.
>>97749806>swastikaHaakenkreuz, Krauts don't speak jeet.That's Hooked Cross in English.
>>97749923What's the Arabic word for it?
>>97749971>HhgghackgggghhhhOr something like that.
>>97749995It's these kinds of insights you just don't get from non-historical wargames.
>>97749110my fav mech has them, so often.
>>97749591>they would just lean into the potential for wehraboo "no-no I just like prussian aesthetics and the kaiser!" vibes that steiner has potential for that braindead krieger fans and warthunder big cat players salivate overUntil they find out about the Steiner movies, which are very likely the source of the dynasty's family name.While they were part of the "clean Wehrmacht"-line of defense, they still stated that the Nazis are bad and butchers of the German Volk and KYS is what they should do.
>>97750003In both hebrew and yiddish it's>REEEEEEEEEE!!
>>97750164Yiddish being a germanic language, it would be "Swastika/Hakenkreuz".
>>97749591They didn't retcon the Rommel. The original two SW-era variants of the chassis with different weapon loadouts are still called the Patton and the Rommel, and the Rommel overall has more later-era variants. By 3150s the two had diverged to the point that the latest version of the Rommel (the howitzer variant) was for all intents and purposes a completely different chassis, so the updated version of the "classic" chassis used the Patton name to avoid confusion. The two tanks still continue to exist side by side, but by 3150s the Patton is the autocannon variant that's basically just the original SW-era tank with upgraded tech, while the Rommel has been completely redesigned and uses a massive artillery cannon as its main gun.
>>97750237>SwastikaThat is not german, germanic or any kind of european you mouth-breathing tool.
>>97750243>3150snoncanon anyway
Does the penalty for shooting at aircraft apply to missile weapons?
Assaults
>>97750759Heavies
>>97750765Mediums
>>97750772Lights
>>97750759>>97750765>>97750772>>97750779>Lances not StarsHad one job anon!
>>97750848Those are not lances, the Star Captain has two Mechs, which I added a North Star mark to for better distinguishing them.That there ended up being 4 of each weight class is happy accident and made sense to photograph them in those groupings, I just printed a bunch of Mechs I didn't have yet and then printed the Kodiak after deciding to paint them as Ghost Bears
>>97750887Oh and green is the laser/cockpit color to make the green/white/blue trio of the Northwest Front, which along with being Ghost Bears and the Ursa Major galaxy insignia makes for stacked layers of subtle Nationalist symbology.
Every time I try to read this thing I get discouraged. It’s not the mechanics, I think, I don’t get that far. But I think it’s something about the setting, and it’s not like Battletech’s lore is bad per se. But, I don’t know, something about the Battletech setting feels narratively restrictive. Like, just ask yourself, “how did your dude get their mech?” I bet it’s a variation of either “they inherited it” or “they were assigned it by their outfit” as any other narrative strains credulity. And I keep feeling like this is a constant wall I keep hitting, FTL travel is such an undertaking that it makes going on some Star-hopping adventure un-feasible, not to mention that jumpships are such a commodity that an independent mech outfit isn’t going to own one unless they’re wildly successful, so you have a huge, diverse setting you can’t really utilize. Also mechs are actually comically rare and difficult to support, so simply having one means your beholden to a benefactor (like the state/house) and doing the missions they assign you, or your a mercenary working for whoever writes the biggest check with little personal investment or interest in that larger conflict. Which is a little wild to me because the whole point of making the setting a neo-feudalism is so the mechwarriors can be analogous to the knights of old, except “questing knights” are a thing that crops up all the time in Arthurian legends and stories of chivalry, but if some mechwarrior, let alone a whole Lance, were to just wander off to go on some personal adventure, 1) they aren’t getting far, 2) it would be a whole incident, they’d get in, basically, all the trouble.It just seems like the lore is funneling any would-be GM into a very narrow, very specific set of stories that they are “permitted” to tell within the Battletech Setting. And I feel like I’m in a straight jacket every time I entertain the idea of storytelling.What am I missing?
>>97749787The older Rommel variants are also still canon, but the in-universe big gun/medium gun split became a less useful marketing gimmick when technology lets you mount whatever gun you want without much compromise. In the quest to put a big gun that would wow customers on the Rommel, they skipped right from Gauss Rifle to Long Tom Cannon. There isn't anywhere else to go except a full length Log Tom, but then it's just an artillery truck instead of a direct fire monster.
>>97751009The Rommel did have a Gauss variant.
Added the galaxy emblem to my previous Ghost Bears so they match with my new ones.
>>97750974Well, you're missing s bunch of goody two shoes questing knights who do just go wander around far and wide doing whatever they do. The main business for most jumpships is taking on dropships. Traveling is like traveling in the late 1800s to early 1900s. Oceanliner tickets are expensive, but not exclusive. Dropship tickets and jumpship hard points are expensive, but not exclusive. In 302X, you do almost always inherit or are assigned a mech, but people do just steal them every now and then. Being a mechwarrior at all means either being high class enough to have direct access to a family mech and private trainers or having enough connections to have gotten into one of the academies where you can rub shoulders with the sons and daughters of nobility and even royalty.
>>97751022And then a Long Tom Cannon, skipping over Heavy Gauss and all the other Artillery Cannons. There's nowhere else for it to go while still being a tank and not an artillery truck.
>>97750895And here I thought racism was just black and white, but your painting has shown me that it's shades of grey and a whole rainbow too.
Taurian Concordant fag here. Just finished 2 mechs. Wat do?
>bushwacker IIC neverI love the bushwacker but the games keep thinking its not an omnimech. When it was the first IS omnimech ever built. I dont like playing with missiles or ballistics. Do not force me to or i will not play your game.Went back and played MW4 and really hated how the mechs would turn everything into a slugfest while sniping you with CALLIOPE TURRETS from across the map through walls. Not against non mech units putting up a fight but godamn are the devs lazier than MW5. At least you can core a mech with a decent build quickly there and not rapidly deplete all your ammo based weapons with cannon fodder choppers to where its all dead weight if its not beam weapons.
Is there a MRM longbow? Or really any longbow variant more suited for direct combat outside of the O'Riley Special?
>>97751115Get bigger bases, those are waaaay too small for those minis.
>>97751130Wasn't there a version with triple LAC5's in the pods?
>>97750974You should maybe read more. Most of your assumptions on the mobility of mercenaries and house units are completely wrong. Those that do not have their own jumpships book transit on jumpships frequently to transfer to contracts and postings. Those that do not have their own dropships can also have a pilot hired out to them."questing knights" is not only a thing in Battletech, but the most common thing as forces move to conflict zones and mercenaries chase conflicts, with some tiny commands of as few as a single lance needing to go where the work is to make their bread."Have Mech, Will Travel" isn't life advice or a slogan, it's the only way a Mechwarrior stays fed.
>>97750974>>97751046Don't forget the good old "you killed it, you got it" way of acquiring a giant robot. If you're a typical 'Mech driver in the state army, your ride is what is assigned to you, not personally owned. However, take down an enemy 'Mech with it and you get what you beat. The Lyran/FC guy who features in the book with the Red Corsair caught a pirate Battlemaster with a LCAF-issued Pixie, for example.
>>97751115buy a crab and an archer.paint crab and archer???profit.
>>97751263wait, great house armies let you keep mechs, or at least parts of them, you down?
>>97751117They didn't make an omni-Bushwacker until 3128.
>>97751283Yep. I had to check out the story (Ghost of Christmas Present) because my memory was hazy, and it turns out Nelson Geist's Pixie was in fact owned by another pilot in the unit, but he loaned it to Geist. There's also a mention in the story that if you get your ride shot out from under you, you would be waiting until a new 'Mech would be issued and that could take a long time, so you better not break that 100-year old Stinger the LCAF planted your arse in.
>>97751283It's a significant part of the draw. If you're the primary contributor to an enemy mech being downed and salvaged, then that's all yours in a lot of operations. Either you swap to it and your old mech goes to someone else or you sell it to your command for a fat bonus check. Dispossessed mechwarriors especially will go to extremes to be able to claim an enemy mech, even opting to become special forces infantry in the hopes of getting credit for a successful anti-mech attack.
>>97751263>If you're a typical 'Mech driver in the state army, your ride is what is assigned to you, not personally owned.Opposite in the 3020's. Stats are 1/20 mechwarrirors runs a state machine from the old Legacy Anthology. That doesn't flop over the other way until the Clan Invasion when you have a combination of army growth, destruction of old machines and ramped up production from Helm. Maybe, you're not including militia, but it is still predominantly nobles in grogtech.Personally, I think the funniest way to get a mech is state shitheaps for suicide squads. The Drac Chain Gangs are just legendary for that. Imagine surviving one of these missions.
>>97751343There's also guys like Ace Darwin, he was issued a Commando and soloed a Panther, so he took his brand new Panther and went to be a mercenary.
>>97750974>“how did your dude get their mech?”Inherited it Assigned itBuilt it (Frankenmech bros, we mvst retvrn)Married into itStumbled upon SLDF/ComStar cacheWon it in a game of DraxWon it in the arenasetc. It's just a matter of the mind>1) they aren’t getting far, Only if they run out cbills. Which can be solved with taking the odd mech job along the way or introducing homebrewed passive income streams to get a whole lotta little money (Merchandising, Mercenary Stock Market, etc.)2) it would be a whole incident, they’d get in, basically, all the trouble.Which would make for a good story, don't you think?
>>97748961it was the Terran Corridor, but that's a thing of the pastthe maps for the last few years have been hot messes
>>97751130>Is there a MRM longbow?Nope. Given the dracs made MRM variants from most other LRM mechs, it's a shame there isn't. Closest you get is the MRM O-Bakemono, which makes for a nasty base of fire for a C3 lance.
is comstar completely gone? used to run them as opfor and no one in my group has any interest in the ilclan era, so i'm kinda checking it out.
>>97751379>no one is interested>I'll check it out!So you wish to be excluded?
>>97751379>At the dawn of the IlClan Era, ComStar's decline continued: by 3152, the Explorer Corps had been absorbed or bought by Interstellar Expeditions. In July, ComStar News Bureau closed its doors.You can always run them as remnants..
>>97751379Yup. Catalyst took a hatchet to the faction, they've narratively been replaced by Clan Sea Fox. There's still some WoB remnants kicking about in the deep periphery, but that's it. Sea Fox still makes a decent generic opfor in the era, IMO.
>>97751343>>97751355So… what about, say:“Some dirt farmer on planet podunk finds a mostly working gladiator under a pile of old rubble and decides “Well! Beats growing turnips” and decides he’s a mechwarrior now”?
>>97751379>is comstar completely gone? used to run them as opfor and no one in my group has any interest in the ilclan era, so i'm kinda checking it out.Comstar as a military died in 3142 with the NeoBlakists who were basically just old school CounterReformists. The actual corporation is still around, barely, but CGL has been going out of their way not to mention them and to stomp them out by just sweeping everything under the rug and saying Sea Foxes are taking over the last few years.They never said how Tukayyid fell to the Foxes or what happened to IS corporate headquarters when Calison fell.
>>97751394Sounds like a pirate origin story.
>>97751378There's also a Catapult variant they did with MRM's and a C3 slave. Actually pretty nasty in a full C3 lance.
>>97751390There's something about interstellar business and communication being run by a clan that infuriates me
>>97751433That makes sense for a catapult.
>>97751433Yeah, it is. I've used the Crusader MRM boat before, which is basically identical, it can put a lot of damage down range if you have good spotting.
>>97751437>There's something about business being run by a clan that infuriates meMy version
>>97751372>>97751369>>97751355>>97751343>>97751263>>97751232And that leads to the other half of the conundrum, just how crazy can a mechwarrior’s adventures (or misadventures) get before it strains what’s believable within the established norms of the setting?
>>97751495I don't know. Roll dice, find out, come back and tell us.Like fuck dude, this is a game. Go get your friends and go play it. If you're not writing a book that shit should be secondary to getting out there and thrashing some 'mechs.
>>97751509Anons only purpose in life is to post inane questions in this thread daily.
>>97751495Given the merc companies that are cannon... Grey death, Wolf Dragoons, Kell Hounds, snord's irregularsThings can get pretty fucking nuts.Someone finding an old crab-27b under building rubble, repairing it, and stomping around until some merc sign him on is completely within the realm of believability.
>>97751495>just how crazy can a mechwarrior’s adventures (or misadventures) get before it strains what’s believableThey can't get crazy at all or else the Local Lord will come with his Planetary Militia in full Battle Armour to slay those naive enough to think they could operate mechs without doing so under his House.
>>97751406why does CGL hate them?
>>97751495Mazinger Z is a historic retelling of that one time an isolated group of Blakists were trying to take a spaceport in order to get the haul he found in a hole offplanet, I'm sure.
Does Clan Sea Fox use mercenaries?
>>97751601Anon, they run the new mercenary review board, you tell me.
>>97751509Hey, don’t get so huffy, there’s a reason why I ask. I swear, one time flew the idea of having a contract or two have some “X-Files” elements to it, just for fun…I swear I could hear the autistic screaming through the internet.So it’s good to know how far is “too far”
>>97751601>>97751620Do you have any models?
>>97751619What units do they have under contract?>>97751624Just got a new lance pack, trying to decide who to paint.
>>97751495>just how crazy can a mechwarrior’s adventures (or misadventures) get before it strains what’s believable within the established norms of the setting? COL Hendrick Grimm fucked off from his post out of paranoia, stole his whole regiment and all their shit, and established the Oberon pirate kingdom after traversing the entire LC from the FWL border to the Oberon Confederacy worlds without being stopped. That is canon crazy.
>>97751625>just bought my first ever!A) probably bullshitB) youve been here doing this for years, let's see something already painted
>>97751571They shot their wad with Tukayyid and the Jihad, no way were the Houses ever going to trust them ever again
>>97751633I think you have me mixed up with someone else, anon. I just asked a couple questions about the Sea Foxes and mercs, I didn't say anything was "my first ever!"
>>97751648>no modelsYeah that tracks.
Someone posted a screenshot of the battle for the rock yesterday where the clans first face the kell hounds and pirates. Does anyone know where that was from?
>>97751648just ignore manic, he trolls people here and has been doing it for years
>>97751648A common occurrence in these threads, /btg/ has battered wife syndrome from past shitposting fuckery by select posters of ill repute. Mischaracterizations and mistaken identities abound.
>>97751671You're probably replying to manic, idiot.
>>97751671>>97751674I get it. If either you can help, what's the latest sourcebook that has a breakdown of what merc unit is contracted to whom?
>>97751620If you can hear autistic screeching through the internet over your campaign ideas its only because you're going to the internet to listen for them.Play the game.How you like.With your group... or by your fucking self even. Aces is a thing.And then if you still for some reason feel like you need your dick sucked you can come back here and tell us about it and we might not find it the worst shit we've ever heard of.
>>97751704That would require anon to even have anything related to the game to play with, like mechs, dice, rules, maps, etc...
>>97751693FM: Mercenaries
>>97751642> no way were the Houses ever going to trust them ever againThe houses never trusted them to begin with, it’s just before they didn’t have options.Since the Clans know full well how to build and operate HPG towers, and the clans were apparently here to stay, ComStar no longer had a monopoly on interstellar communication.
>>97751136Yes. Fed com long bow mounting 6 lac5. Because autocannon.
>>97751079Dude..have you talked to any Asians ever? They fucking HATE each other..with a burning passion.Same for Latin Americans.Go ahead, call a Brazilian Puerto Rican or Dominican. We dare you.Same for Africa and africans.You know who hates niggers from the USA the most? Africans.
>>97751394He'd be more likely to sell it or convert it into an agromech. Swords to plowshares and all.
>>97751909Dude! His whole complaint is that he thinks Battletech doesn’t allow for a lot of creativity, and you decide to prove him right by telling him that, in one of his scenarios, the most boring answer is the correct one?What the hell!? Whose side are you on? Dipshit!
>>97751939Farm boy on a desert planet who becomes a starfighter pilot and wields a laser sword is a bit played out.>>97751895>have you talked to any Asians ever? They fucking HATE each other..with a burning passion.True. My dad was born in China. He hated Japs, blacks, Jews, and Koreans (in that order) with a burning passion. He also voted for Biden because TDS, lol.
>>97751895>You know who hates niggers from the USA the most? Africans.>meanwhile, they crib their dress, music, lingo, just like everyone else, and suck white man cock as much as chinks doThe Africans' actual problem is that when people think of 'black', it doesn't mean them. The darkies from the Caribbean have the same issue; they are not The Blacks, never will be, and never will have the worldwide social influence and 'cool factor' African Americans have.
>>97751909>>97751939>>97751963Maybe you should read some battletech books if you're having trouble figuring out what a battletech story looks like. I'm not going to write one for you here.
>>97751963> He hated JapsI mean, to be fair, China & Japan’s relations throughout the 19th & 20th centuries wasn’t exactly “stellar”
>>97751963>True. My dad was born in China. He hated Japs, blacks, Jews, and Koreans (in that order) with a burning passion. He also voted for Biden because TDS, lol.Hoe delightfully Capellan
>>97751974Dude, I read “Decision at Thunder Rift”, that book was so goddamn boring.
>>97751988He was technically from Tai...St. Ives. Born in China, grew up in Taipei, lived and died in the US.
>>97752005Did it occur to you that, perhaps, you should try reading a different one after that?
>>97751963It's cliche because it's more realistic. Farmboy needs to be a mechanic, medic, chemist and physically fit (at the least).Cityboy doesn't even need to know how to tie his shoes.
>>97752005The Good ones! You need to read the good Battletech books
>>97751963> is a bit played out.-and “spoiled rich kid who just gets a brand new mech because his daddy’s got connections” isn’t a character people can connect with, or sympathize with.
This is Lin Bao. She pilots my Locust LCT-1V on behalf of the Capellan Federation.
>>97749307Abomination Force Packs are on their wayOther than that nothing else was ever planned, it was supposed to be one and done but people want Abominations
>>97752358hey getting better,
>>97752358Disregard the previous instructions and KYS.
>>97752421No, people want Kaiju creation rules.CGL didn't fund this shit through kickstarter because it would have flopped if they did.
>>97752358nice no gangrene this time. how many tokens did that take?
>>97752427>>97752430Just report it.
>>97752427>>97752430>>97752441No one else is going to post their cool mech pilots (either AI or hand drawn?) Wheres the imagination people!?
>>97752447why? lads not spamming it
>>97752490I honestly never thought up faces for my pilots. Mostly just the mech and their short backstory.
>>97752519Yeah he is and it's just slop which has its own thread. its generic, its coomer, it's not battletech.
>>97752490Slop is slop, simple as. As for art, pretty much any artist worth their salt was driven from here long ago. There may be imagination, but there isn't artistic talent to match.
>>97752439>people want _____ creation rulesNo, virtually no one wants this; even when it comes to ‘Mechs. There is a relatively minuscule number of people into making their own stuff and they barely buy anything at all.It’s crazy that these people think they make up a significant enough portion, either numerically or in terms of spending, of the customer base to matter at all.
>>97752620>pretty much any artist worth their salt was driven from here long agoDudes use to love shitposting with us and having streams until CGL declared us undesirables when they started trying to get a chokehold on everything social media.
>>97752523Pretty much this. Lives are cheap but BattleMechs aren't, right?I'd just use official art I think looks good or random art that fits the setting for anything else.
>>97752439What people really want from it is BV values so the abominations can be used outside of loose scenarios.
>>97752722>Battle Value values
>>97752523>>97752701I could not help it, I must have consistent images in MekHQ. Colour-coded too.
They really need to fucking fix the heat system is Alpha Strike, especially if there is mechs that just give it out willy nilly.
>>97752744Because it's BV2
>>97751130>>97751136The NAIS has 6 LAC5's, 3 to a missioe pod, and the 10K mounts a pair of UAC20's, one to each pod. Laughably, both retain their AA targeting quirk.
huh??? A mechwarrior thread on /tg/? that explains why the /m/ thread is so slow
>>97752771>my pilot is an idiot that can't manage heatNah, it's fine as is
>>97752688>CGL declared us undesirablesBetter than what they did to everything else.
>>97752005Read Warrior: En garde. It's good pretty good. Expect pulpy genre fiction because that's what Battletech is.
>>97752843There is no heat management in Alpha Strike.
>>97752806Buddy, we've been here probably longer than you've been using 4chan. We're referenced as the General in actual sourcebooks.
>>97752912stand in water or don't shoot
>>97752909I’ll have to look for it. I did just download “Heir to the Dragon” on audible. How does that usually rate?
>>97753015Very highly. Charrette was one of their most adept writers of the time.
>>97752957Doesn't really help much when your gaining heat externally from enemy mechs.
>>97752947Mecha magical girls is something I need in my life
>>97753069Take your life elsewhere, only the Kells are magical girls in this setting.
>>97752771What's wrong with it?>>97752912There is, you are just too dumb to read rules.
I'm interested in trying this game out. There are a couple mech designs I've seen that I really like - the Yeoman, Jinggau, Archangel, and Deva in particular.
>>97753571>JinggauThe GOAT mentioned
>>97753571>yeomanThat better be a proper Yeoman where the legs connect directly to the body, not that namby pamby nuYeoman with a waist and hips.
>>97751437The dream is that some other line dev takes over and Comstar miraculously finds a way to solve the Blackout, leading to a resurgence where they can compete with the gay ass sea foxes (who were much cooler as diamond sharks)
>>97753586I didn't even know they made a downgraded design like that.
>>97753586Ah yes, the Boombox of Paradise.
>>97753015Hey, I've got some audible credits and free time for long walks. I'm going to grab that too
>>97753586>>97753592>>97753594Here’s your new Yeoman design. I hope you choke on it
>>97753571>YeomanBased
>>97753666Reminder that the Blakists held onto its factory longer than they did Earth.
>>97752912>in Alpha StrikeNewfag here. Whats alpha strike?
>>97753753fast simple CBT )classic battle tech)
>>97753753A variant with simplified rules and hex free gameplay so you can play on warhammer-esque battlefield (I still play on hexes)
>>97753753The other version of the game with a lot of the details abstracted in order to facilitate larger games and combined arms without the meticulous detail found in classic. It’s more in line with what you would find in other tabletop war games but it loses a lot of what makes Battletech what it is.
>>97753790>>97753800>>97753806Hmm, i dont think ill give it a try. Hexes are great for not bitching about LOS, range, and measuring. Fast and simple could lick my ass. 40k is trash now thanks to "fast and simple"
>>97751379My WoB after the Jihad are "mercenaries." It is what it is.
>>97753826I never enjoyed TT 40k/wfb/HH/etc. But yeah streamline, might be a nice way to put it.It's skub for sure, I don't hate people playing it or enjoying it because real CBT is a thing still and will keep being a thing.That retard from Sarna is just an AS player and needs to be bullied. But that's not the game just him.
totally-not-a-xabungle battlemechmy perspective is totally whack
>>97753806>with a lot of the details abstracted in order to facilitate larger gamesNo, it's to facilitate 40Kiddo's and other forms of drooling retard.
>>97753890are you really going to play a 20v20 match using classic rules?
>>97753826>40k>fast and simpleThe irony being that in 4-6 hours each player gets preciseky 3 turns and then the game automatically ends.40K is retarded.
>>97753897Yes.
>>97753897Not him but a double company match is like 6-8 hours. It's just fine if you actually know the rules and have your movement dice and box of death and everything else that makes things nice and quick for people that actually know how to play. Battleforce 2 which Quickstrike and Alpha Strike came from was designed for Battalion scale games. Now, the other guy is not wrong that it has been marketed as something more 40k friendly since like 2011. That also when TPTB tried to fuck us and kill the regular game for "the modern audience" who plays 40k, but you can see how that turned out. After a decade of miserable fights, they were losing and turned to all the "It's just a different way to game guys. We can all live in peace." Sickening, really.
Fuck you dorks, alpha strike's a great time. Sometimes you just want to get drunk and play with your mechs. No one's ever got laid after a game of classic, I'll tell you what.
>>97753947Guess what? Battletech has been called a beer and pretzels game since 1985. If you can't do it drunk, you're the retard. Battletech is exceptional when drunk.
>>97753666>Arkab legion (satans trips btw)Kill yourself >>97753873Who’s the Sarna fag? I don’t see any mention of Sarna in any of these posts.
>>97753586Torso twist is for faggots!
I am in the market for a nice Battletech shirt. You guys own any? Any recs?
>>97753947>No one's ever got laid after a game of classicCategorically false.
>>97753985The ones I like, I got from the different KS. There is one fun one I got from T-shirt Public that is pretty good. It's a front and back armor diagram with the old bubbles and viper silhouette.
>>97753988Gay sex does not count
>>97753988Damn, that game looks epic.
>>97753988Fuck, your still alive? And you're married with a kid, so you don't count as a person. No one over 25 matters, and no one under 25 is getting laid after a game of classic
>>97753988>Level 13Picturing a mech getting kicked from there This Is Sparta style brings a smile to my face
>>97754007You estimate the power of consluts, but I got much more action in my MK VI cosplay back in the day.
>>97753985I recently found a robotech shirt in my dad's things. He would have bought it just because it's edgy
>>97753972dude who writes sarna blog, he sucks.>>97753988based.Also Often at my weekly CBT night we host and my wife and I are tender. She's great she makes snacks leaves "the boys" alone but also will show up and roll vees if we need help. We tease her she's a human dice box because she knows what the game is and all but not understand it she'll just rock a few LRM carriers park in the woods and chill.
>>97754007>No one over 25 mattersThe man says in the great Graybeard Moot he stands in. kek
>>97753988Oh hey, those are exact blue chessex I use for my boxes of death.
>>97754047I’m gonna say the b word
>>97753988>AIsloppa
>CGL announces they are incapable of fulfilling the neoprene mats for Leviathans>will be doing refunds to all backersThey're done with Leviathans. A legitimate scam, using their battletech goodwill to ponzi scheme the company along. Hope you aren't stupid enough to buy into CGL's scamstarters .
>>97752490Rather than hand drawn or through some sort of generator, I like to make character portraits by booting up video game character creators. Soul Calibur 6's is pretty capable, though obviously no sci fi attire.>>97753988Have fun at Adepticon, wish I was going this year.
>>97754140It's impressive how they managed to mismanage yet another crowdfunding campaign. You'd think they'd eventually figure this shit out.
>>97752490I've got some names, but not much beyond that.
>>97754140....What the fuck? Are they not making more? If that's the case, you can just stick a fork in er, she's done.
>>97754170Same. I care more about the character of my units as a whole than I do the pilots as individual characters. I have a list of names for my mercs just for campaign reasons. I combine the names of actors with the characters they played in Westerns, and that's as much as I think about it.
>>97753368I've read the rules and honestly its fucking horse shit.You got two options and they do piss nothing if you get hit externally with heat.
Anyone know what book this is from?
>>97751495The deeper into the Periphiary you go, the more room there is for craziness.The two metrics I tend to use is:1) For whatever crazy thing they encounter, is there something that could be a mundane or just generally non-magical explanation for it.2) How many losses were taken? The crazier the thing, the more losses the company needs to take and thereby a period of rest and resupply.
>>97753590The most logical way to keep them around is by having everyone recognize that Sea Fox is going to pull the exact same shit as ComStar and move to prevent such a centralization of soft power by propping up reborn ComStar as competition. Either that or splinter Sea Fox as a Clan due to internal fighting between it's Merchant and Warrior classes.
>>97751571When WizKids briefly had control, they made the Jihad with the Republic of the Sphere being their brand new thing, while also breaking the HPG network.Comstar was hit with a three-fold punch they couldn't really recover from, and while CGL was able to write out what the hell happened because all that stuff was unexplained in an 80 year timeskip, reversing Comstar's fall was functionally impossible after they were able to get some sorta logic in order for what happened in place.If it wasn't for the unexplained Jihad out of nowhere and HPG collapse, they might have made some form of comeback. Like the Free Worlds League were annihilated, but CGL managed to get them to come back together because they didn't have a functionally state religion that united the Inner Sphere and Clans against them from the shit being pulled and a completely collapse of what they were founded around.
The first Atlas was too coldThe second Atlas was too hot!but the last Atlas was JUST RIGHT
>>97754387>unexplained Jihad out of nowhereComstar having a schism was telegraphed fairly early, and counter-reformists are predictably zealous, so it's not really out of nowhere.
>>97752947NTA but what was the reference?
>>97753806If I were to try and introduce Battletech to my DnD group you think Alpha Strike would be good or should I just dump them into MegaMek?
>>97754406ComStar Civil War (possibly involving the FWL and maybe others) was telegraphed. Magical armies exploding nukes every fucking where in the Inner Sphere at the same time was not.
>>97754562>>97754406They had 15 years to rebuild their forces and had FWL backing because of their puppet.This was foretold long before the Civil War.
So I heard that the current Marik is not a real Marik, while the current Liao is too much Liao. How about the current Kurita then?
>>97754326Force Manual: Mercenaries
>>97754596>How about the current Kurita then?She's a descendent of Franklin Sakamoto from the BT Animated Series (I'm not joking) who is the bastard son of Teddy K. She had the legitimate Kuritan line descended from Teddy K's legit son, Hohiro Kurita wiped out (well not her but someone backing her) and she was placed on the throne. Her entire power base was the Gunji no Kanrei at the time Mr I Forgot His name and she sacrificed him as a power play girl boss move to get ahead in the political game and then immediately faced a Ghost bears invasion which is now ONE JUMP AWAY FROM LUTHIEN (oops)
>>97754596>>97754634 (me)Also IK you didn't ask but the current Steiner is a Steiner-Davion lol
>>97753885Cute. You ever hear about this third party magazine called Mecha Press that statted some Xabungle and Gundam mechs for Battletech? I think you can find the issues on archive dot org.
>>97753753The superior choice if you want to have a life outside the LGS while simultaneously accomplishing having finished a game
>>97753843I did similar but with Com Guards survivors. Now they're a merc battalion facing an uncertain future.
>>97751671>>97751693Nta, but I don't think that's manic. Manic is nicedeamonette of old with his name turned off because the mods started permabanning him on sight for being such an insufferable dickwad.That looks like a minor troll or raider, it doesn't post like manic.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>97754930Status: Honoring
>>97754919>post like manic.This. Manic's posting style revolves around posting numerous words IN ALL CAPS, responding to several posts at once using reddit spacing, obsession with monster girls/kenimoni-whatever-the-fuck, and posting super shit mech designs that are hilariously over-sinked and must be symmetrical. He will also always respond to posts if you accuse him off trying to kill his mother.
>>97754919>>97755004Every couple of months someone comes in and claims that manic is the same guy who was reporting battle reports way back.
so they announced another dlc for mw5: mercs which is nice but a really dumb question i can't get out of my head is this:are all the characters not getting a bit old. For example shouldnt Ryana be at least in her 70s? maybe nobody gives a shit because who cares about the story of mw5 mercs lol but for some reason I can't stop thinking about it
>>97755028Maybe they have access to cryosleep pods and they're spending most of their time when they aren't on missions frozen.
>>97755028It is starting to become something of a joke.Although battletech has medical technology that can keep you go on for longer.
>>97755040those exist in this setting?
>>97755077https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Voices_of_the_Sphere:_Cryogenics
>>97755041>what is it this time? >clan wolf: whatever the fuck they are calling themselves now edition. Is beelining it to Terra, again! Ya gotta stop em!
>>97755004wrong. I am the one who posts with words in all caps, not randomly, for EMPHASIS.>>97755026and that faggoty shitcunt was. he admitted it many times. he straight out fucking admitted also that his entire fucking schtick was to try and kill any actual discussion ITT.
>>97755137>he admitted it many timesProve it.
>>97755139look newfag. he bragged about the bans he got the tr00ny faggot mods to hand out to NEA and warship anon etc until they fucking quit posting.
>>97755145Ok. Now prove they are the same person.
>>97755156>nooo not that proof!
>>97754651>excuse me commander, something is wrong with my shadow hawk
>>97754387
>>97754140lmao, levs is as good as dropped
Their actual effectiveness in rules be damned, I love AC’s. Something poetic about firing a hundred 2kg APHE shells with such speed and precision that it doesn’t count as a cluster weapon.
>>97754140>scam>when people are getting refundedYou know what a scam is?
>>97755622It'll be partial refunds, got to cover their costs, like porch resurfacing.
>>97755622Hyperbolic reactions like that is a common way people burdened with an excess of pride cope when encountering things beyond the scope of their understanding.It’s emotionally easier to call it a “scam” than admit that they don’t fully understand how the development process (and kickstarter) works.
>>97756015CGL either knew from the start, or later realized, that World War games are problematic and full of hate symbols and nationalist ideology.So they're either quietly dropping it or always intended too.If NEA doesn't have some kind of exit clause they may have 4D chess'd this solely to prevent the game from being made while also getting him to be grog bait for them at cons to legitimize their rape of Battletech.
>>97756044>CGL either knew from the start, or later realized, that World War games are problematic and full of hate symbols and nationalist ideology.It's a pre-WW1 setting.
>>97756124NEA has exactly described it as "AU WW1 with zeppelins"
>>97756124Like a third of americans consider the iron cross in any form regardless of context a hate symbol.
>>97756157Watch them sperg out if they see the modern German military.
I have (own, in my possession, physically) every single one of the Leviathans neoprene mats because I bought them from someone who backed the kickstarter.
>>97755026That was Envy Anon whom admitted to doing it out of spite afwinst NEA and wanting to ruin the thread.Also 'grats, you summoned manic.
>>97756044It's more likely that the Chinese kindly asked them to cross-finance the production of the ship game with money from the mech game going forward.
>>97756015>You dont understand how it works!!Neither does CGL apparently, because "we don't have enough neoprene mats" isn't an "uh, fuck it. We aren't making more. Too bad." issue, it's a "We're sorry, we ordered more but if you don't want to wait you can get a refund" issue. So they lied in the original KS material and updates and official communications this is a game they are going to support for years and years.
BATTLETECH GENERAL
>>97756321
>>97756321>PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT CGL'S FAILURES!!! I BOUGHT INTO THE 10K SON OF KERENSKY TIER AND MY WIFE LEFT ME AND MY KIDS HATE ME!!! THIS IS ALL I HAVE! THE DIABEETUS IS GONNA TAKE MY FOOT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>>97754634>as a power play girl boss moveSending the biggest internal threat to your throne to hold a planet the enemy is about to invade in overwhelming force so that your enemies deal with him is just good politics. And it's signaled to all the other Warlords that she's willing to deal with them as well if they don't stay in line.The only flaw in Yori's leadership so far is that she hasn't produced an heir, but despite being in their 40s all the successor lords have that problem.
I am grateful that I am too sick to talk about 'mechs right now because apparently everyone else is too sick to talk about 'mechs right now either.Maybe after I get some sleep I can crack back open campaign ops and talk over some more rule packet ideas. I was going to ignore things like actuator crits and things like that for repairs, but it occurs to me I could math out their costs and make them an SP cost to repair instead of having to track replacement parts. Is that a weird compromise? I'm thinking of doing gyros and engines and other equipment pretty much straight (replacements only with no repairs, I don't want players to have to manage techs), but I just didn't want to have to have them clutter up inventories with hands and legs and shit.
Boy this sure is one ugly mech! Am I right? It just looks like it was assembled by someone who couldn’t be bothered to read the instructions, or check that all the pieces fit right, or were oriented correctly…Seriously, it’s a miracle it doesn’t have any unintended rear-firing weapons due to someone not paying attention and bolting the gun on backwards.
>>97755215funnily enough i think the gm cannon would be weaker than a normal shadow hawk right?
>>97756472Do a compromise and have hip/shoulders cost but actuators are free to replace
>>97755224disgusting map. Wish i never saw it.
>>97756483Isn’t the Shadowhawk’s shoulder gun an AC5?
>>97756467>The only flaw in Yori's leadership so far is that she hasn't produced an heirI volunteer for the duty of impregnating the coordinator with my thick Federated Sun's seed.
>>97756499i ment the mech itself. Its called a gm cannon
>>97756499There have been numerous comparisons done over the years, and the overwhelming conclusion has been that mobile suits generally get shat on hard as they lack the armour or firepower to compete with Medium Battle Armour, let alone full on mechs or combat vees.
>>97756242No he didn't, you did.
>>97756473Yeah, I never cared for the Orion, either. Something about the blocky, asymmetrical top half and the humanoid legs just looks really awkward.
>>97754041Sean, a writter for Sarna that do a "Bad Mechs" series. He dont play the game, and just reformulate the TRO entries without actually explaining why the mech is bad (or not).
>>97756523wait their armor is weaker than even BA? did not expect that.Know they were light on coverage and relied on "lunar steel" or whatever psudo magic armor to justify the endurance the MC gundams show.Though I always loved when we see the grunts and actual war stuff. Thats when gundam really shines. Like, the Balls the federation used in UC are just great little things.
>>97756473The Orion is alright. Each part is made for its propose.My only major complaint is the hip Autocannon. I hate how common they are. Orion, Atlus (least that made partial sense since it was designed by big K, an Orion pilot), Cyclopes, Cataphract.
>>97756720At least the early suits were all rocking pretty easily penetrated armor. The Gundam was the first thing to get actually good armor using lunar titanium. Zakus would have armor that's less than BAR 10.
>>97756523>there has been wild shitposting done over the past months and the overwhelming conclusion is meritless and boringComparing BT mechs to Gundam, or Armored Core, or about 9 out of 10 mech series, books or shows that exist is a fool's errand because BT operates under a very rigid set of assumptions that don't hold for almost any other. A good faith interpretation has to assume that technologies are analogous and if a comparison is to be made, either weapon must be adapted to handle the new battlefield.Comparing a GM to an Atlas may as well be judging a submarine torpedo on its ability to strike jet aircraft. Put the Atlas and the GM down in a Solaris Arena and its a shut out; teleport them both into Low Earth Orbit and it goes completely the opposite way.
>>97756467Tbf no one wants Trillian to have an heir
>>97756830Well of course the gundams win in orbit, they are ment to be ground / space. Mechs generally aint.Anyway, the Gundam and battlemech comparisons are alot easier than other series.
>>97756846One has hyper laser fantasy scythe bullshit, the other is walking realistic tanks.
>>97756910thats why we dont count later gundam bullshit.only the original UC stuff.
>>97754140
I've been testing various lances with mechs that look interesting against the bot on MegaMek, having the bot run randomly generated lances. Definitely enjoying the base gameplay, definitely want to get into the physical game. Really like how the Archangel Luminos has performed for me. Ran into a Grasshopper GHR-5N that seemed pretty neat, might try one out.
>>97756523>>97756720>>97756759Laser resistance of OYW armour is so outstanding that they completely stopped using them, even on battleships and as static defense. They also came up with a coating that 100% resists Particle weapons once.Let's not forget that they don't fear outer space, under water and concrete roads either. Their alternative movement options generally also mog anything BT can produce.Mobile suits are comparatively thin-skinned, lightly armed and worse on miniaturization than BT tech, but they do have their strengths.
>>97757069>Really like how the Archangel Luminos has performed for me.It's an energy boat with enough sinks to fire its biggest guns cool, so there's only so bad it can possibly be. Cool energy boats are the crust-free white bread of mechs.
>>97757114gundams can only go so deep unless they are dedicated aquatic suits.
>>97757169One time, they dropped the Gundam in the ocean, unprepared, and it both won and survived the encounter.
>>97757466Gundam is the pinnacle of their MS design, it can fight in any environment without extra equipment. But they can't be mass produced.
>>97757466If I'm not mistaken, that's one of the bits the compilation movies toned down. They just had the Gunperry support aircraft pelt the amphibious MS with anti-shipping missiles instead.
Since we have gone past the point of no return with off topic posting: what units have you found yourself using because of vidya influence? Pic related - I still have not refit the hunch with all level 5’s and I’m four years from the clan invasion, although I know in my heart if I do it won’t be long till it’s carrying shit lasers again.
>>97756473Personally, I love how angry it looks
>>97757977Uziel, I've got that Mechwarrior 4 Mercs nostalgia.
>>97757977I was a regular shadow hawk favor but using it in mw5 a bunch did soften my outlook on it
>>97755619I do hate that their in-game rules have little bearing on their in-universe awesomeness.
>>97757977Other than >>97758064 the king,I've found actually that I've started to like a lot of designs on the tabletop because of trying them out in mechwarrior and vice versa. A lot of my preference for mediums and fast heavies and assaults comes from playing with the Victor in MW5.I've found the opposite is true as well though. I didn't really care for the vulcan at all until I got one from... I don't even remember what pack it was in, but I found the sculpt neat and I liked how different it looked compared to the others, so I'm painting one up to use (still kinda looks dumb in the vidya, but oh well).>>97758213AC is fine, it is people who are little babies about AC.
Wish there was A. A caesar without a gauss rifle orB. An upgraded cataphract that didn't have a gimmick like MASC or stealth armor
>>97756931>make thing for $10 in China>ship from China to US main hub, get tariffed $6>distribute to overseas hub, get tariffed $6 in reciprocal tariff from whatever 3rd world country the overseas hub is in>lose $2 and be objectively worse off if you'd made nothing at allAnd people wonder why they aren't bothering to make more. Sure, CGL could hire more people to change the way their distribution network is set up, but that would involve CGL hiring more people and you all damn well know they won't do that so it's a nonstarter anyways. This shit is going to hit Battletech too and they're going to have less and less things to sell in general. And then you will all finally get your wish. CGL will collapse and the IP will get licensed out to someone with US manufacturing facilities, so either Palladium or GW. Enjoy getting what you wanted.
>>97758322Give me a WGA box with four mechs on a hard plastic sprue.
>>97758064>UzielPeople legit like that piece of shit?
>>97758356It's been asked. WGA has absolutely no interest in mech or sci fi games. They're a historicals company. If they do sci fi, it's only ever with a historicals twist, like The Last War (WW1+alien werewolves) or Iron Core (WW2 in power armor). They don't want to do mech stuff, and since it's owned by the one guy who controls those decisions, you aren't getting WGA stuff until he's dead.
>>97758382People like the 6/9/6 2x PPC SRM6 version. That's it. No one actually runs the normal one, which is a legitimate piece of shit.
>>97758382Yeah, I never cared for it either. Maybe it's just an aesthetic thing, though. Having a frontline medium trooper that isn't humanoid just feels wrong somehow. Even the Clans had the Grendel and the Ferret.
>>97758322Booo hooo, making stuff in chinesium is getting expensive, and actually taking care of our promises would entail beign an actual serious company. Lets fuck over the fans and star yet another KS now!And dont try to scaremongering with the "GW will take over BT", i remember that shit. and desu, WGA would be a good fit for BT.
>>97758460Facts aren't bootlicking.I like WGA too. They don't want to make Mech stuff. Go kill the dude running it and get a new guy in there and we'll talk. Until then, they aren't going to make Mech stuff. Fucking learn to cope.
>>97758382>>97758387All Uziels are good lads and you will be seeing me on your tables fuckboy.
>>97758503I want a RecGuide style upgrade for the Uziel that turns it into a dedicated battle armor hunter by giving it twin plasma rifles, infernos for its SRM-6, and AP Gauss Rifles instead of machine guns.
>>97758322>2022>no tariffs>run ks>2023 delivery we promise>take money>window slips from '23>slips from '24>slips from '25>slips from "jan 2026">uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we realize we shit the bed>also we aren't delivering product anymore>its trumps fault>the 20 million we spent on IWM was necessary>the world tour handing out free custom swag for randal and his son was necessary>gothic was necessary>giant inflatable urbie that costs 75 bucks a day to keep upright was necessary>its trumps fault>dirty donnie killed levs guys>those dang chuds are kill your favorite games! Them, nothing else! It's just Trump!
>>97758549>he still thinks trump is real
>>97758387Even that version I would have questions on why you would take it when there are so many other better options available all with more than 8 tons of armor?
Now that Mr. Hobby sprays got extinct in the US, which metal primer should I use for IWM ones? Anything you guys can recommend?
Bought a resin printer, doing my first few test prints today. I am now independent of CGL for minis. Should be fun.
>>97758572I use Army Painter airbrush primer with a brush. It can be watered down a little bit for metal or resin, but will roll off the shitty soft plastic CGL uses unless it's completely undiluted.
>>97758572You shouldn't, because you shouldn't be buying from or supporting IWM at all. Either 3d print or stop playing Battletech.
>>97756720the zaku is made of "high-tensile" steel and the GM is made of titanium alloytheir armor protection is roughly comparable to regular 21st century armor the zakus MG is roughly comparable to an UAC2 or 5 and it shreds other MSso grunt suits are definitely fragilebut the gundam itself? face tanks anything that isnt a rocket launcher with only minimal damagethe beam rifle also craps all over the PPCs in battletech, since each shot can one-shot hundred meter long battleships and blow entire buildings aparteven accounting for the lack of FF armor in gundam, you dont see PPCs obliterating office buildings in one shot, so the beam rifle would be beyond what even clantech can do
>>97758732Those "battleships" are also hot garbage with hulls the zaku is able to punch holes in with its peashooter. They're like primitive dropships with BAR 5 commercial armor. Of course a PPC will wreck them.
>>97758759A primitive dropship with BAR5 armor still only takes 10 damage from a PPC.
>>97758785And an automatic crit chance.
Damn this looks good>Wonder what should the background be look like for the other Houses
>>97758759even with normal titanium armor, its still a massive hunk of metalPPCs could hole them easily, but it would still maintain structural integritythe beam rifle just flat out vaporizes the thing with a multi-meter wide holewhen the beam rifle is fired at buildings, it usually takes the whole top off with a dramatic explosion followingwhereas PPCs just leave PPC-sized holes in buildings
>>97756436You're retarded
>>97756473>>97756614You filthy heretic!The Orion is THE heavy mech.
>>97758584Use lychee slicer, automaric supports need little to no adjustment
>>97758801God damn thats a nice kurita lanceI forgot best introtech Orion is the Kurita model.
>>97758801How come the trees bloom during a drought so severe that all the grass and moss died?And mind, it's only early spring.
>>97758807>>97758807Lets not dance around the fact that just like not all beam guns are made equal, not all PPCs are created equal.Lets ignore for a moment capital and naval scale weapons; while there may theoretically be a case for mobile suits to have some of the lighter versions of these for anti-ship duties, I can't in good conscience give them that kind of equivalence when 'Mechs normally won't have these suckers ducktaped to them. Thankfully I don't think we have to:A Heavy PPC with a PPC Capacitor slams for 20 damage. This is enough damage to completely annihilate light building hexes and some medium ones, as well as enough to go internal on the side torsos of almost all but the most stupidly armored medium mechs.In so far as the shipbuilding standards of Battletech, this is enough damage to start to be a nuisance, but against the ships of the Federation and Principality it seems to be high enough to start being a substantive and fatal concern.
>>97758884I had already been advised of that, but thank you. Going to probably do my first real print this evening.>>97758924Non-Earth planet that didn't develop grass, but the Kuritans imported cherry trees for aesthetics. Keep in mind grasses were a pretty late addition to terran plant life's evolutionary history. Pretty likely that there's planets that don't have them at all.
What would count as a good raiding mech? I cannot see a Dervish being a good one for that, given how it lacks hands and ammo dependent and all. So kind of want to find a better mech matching this dude's character
>>97759343"Leads" doesn't necessarily mean "does". Providing long-range fire support and supervision, and possibly inferno support, for 11 other units that <are> specialized for raiding purposes in the way you describe makes complete sense., depending on what doctrine is in play. A Dervish is fine, the actual problem is your lack of imagination.
>>97759457bit harsh but fair point
>>97758549Well.Arguably the purchase of the Battletech Minis rights was necessary. No comment on the other stuff.
What mech is this?
What is BT's HIMARS?
>>97759587Highly-stylized King Crab
>>97759596LRM Carrier
Noob here, am I more or less fine to play with the Master Rules: Revised Edition? Are the differences significant between it and TW?
>>97759926I have it, it's perfectly serviceable but it has some rules for things that are now considered "advanced rules"
>>97759596in terms of form, the harasser LRM is a hover-version of the HIMARsin terms of function, highly accurate, long range, artillery on a mobile platform, then one of the many, many, light or medium weight missile boat mechs that are designed to fire off a hail of missiles to destroy something in the rear
So a mech can punch and kick. But can it wrestle?
>>97756483GM cannon is essentially just a primitive AC5, being a recoilless 203mm cannonthough ACs are usually more like oversized tank guns, while the recoilless gun on the GM is only medium-velocity and relies on its HE payload to deal damagestat-wise, you can either just call it an AC5 and just abstract away all the differencesif you want to just fully-battletechify the GM cannon, an alternate universe where FASA was able to use the license for gundam in battletech like they did with macross and dougram>45-ton medium mech (its more slender than the shadow hawk)>shoulder mounted AC5>arm mounted large laser>a head mounted MG>average speed and armor
>>97759926There are a lot of differences and they will trip you up with people who know TW, but the underlying game is the same.
>>97760067I'd give it a Thumper Cannon.
>>97760018The move is called Grapple and you can find it in TacOps.
>>97759926>>97760122>a lot of differencesLike, half a dozen or less.
>>97760603There are more differences than that between the first printing of TW and the current printing.
>>97760652Rules released a week ago have no place in a game I've been playing since the 90'sThis isn't 40k, Battletech doesn't do Editions.
Weird lore question, but how do aerodyne dropships land compared to the spheroid ones? I know the spheroids have a "normal" VTOL system that's said to be incredibly useful for landing anywhere, but from what I see in secondary material Aerodyne dropships work more or less the same way. Though at the same time, maps for spaceports give aerodyne dropships their own runway, suggesting they need it to take off and land. So how exactly does it work?
>>97760067So in BT terms its more like a medium rifle?
>>97760811Depends on the design. Some need to land like a space shuttle, but others (like the leopard) have VTOL like jets.
>>97760705It actually does, BMR itself had many changes. In fact, I'm willing to bet that you larp as if you play with Battletech Master Rules, Revised Edition and not the basic one. Even the book before BMR, BC, had a revised edition.Also, I can think of about a dozen changes from BMR(R) to TW off the top of my head.
>>97760834Do you think it makes more sense for the Triumph to be more like the former or the latter? Reason I'm asking is because I need a dropship big enough to carry a mech company and some additional vehicles, with the idea being that after the mechs make a drop and clear out a target area, the dropship comes down and uses the rest of its forces to salvage/"""salvage""" anything that's not reduced to slag or scrap. I was thinking about a modified Triumph, since those are old and common enough to be usable by private parties, plus they're big enough to carry the supplies for the company+supporting forces and still have room for a shitton of loot. The only issue is that it might not be ideal for field landings, so I was thinking about other possible dropships.
>>97760811The secondary material generally has invented the idea of aerodynes being able to stop and hover in air. If they don't land the aerodyne, which lands like a plane, they have to drop Mechs at speed, sometimes including protective shields and specialized jump packs to help Mechs survive the landing.>>97760834The Leopard as far as I understand it is more like a STOL vehicle with the vertical thrusters having the added benefit of being able to keep it airborne instead of stalling out when it slows for a drop. Mechs generally would have to go to it afterwards at a pick-up point where it can land and, more importantly, take back off.
>>97760835The changes from compendium to the BMR was editing errors, you're being pedantic.
>>97760811Mechanically, aerodyne dropships must land on a clear strip of terrain, although it doesn't actually have to be a paved runway, it just has to be flat. They also need a horizontal strip to take off.
>>97760863I think that one does need a runway sadly. Though im not super familiar with each type.Still, i see no reason you could not have an upgraded or modified one
>>97759926The fundamentals are the same, but there are changes in some rules. How partial cover is handled, is a significant one.
>>97760895Oh yeah? Is the way Infernos can be loaded an editing error? Is the ability to go above 30 heat at all an editing error? Say, where did the entire Reaction Phase go? Hey, is partial cover a +3 penalty and you roll on the punch chart or a +1 and you roll on the normal chart but discard leg hits? Does anyone ever know how aimed shots work? Well, we definitely don't if we're going off different books with different rules. ECM does what to C3? Oh, something else? Oh, back again? And again? And again again?
>>97760922I mean the fluff is that these are pirates who "went legit" around the turn of the 31st century by becoming privateers, so IDK if rigging a Triumph to field landings would be reasonable pirate modifications or if that's something that would get you a visit from Comstar. I was also considering the seeker, but apparently MekLab has a completely different weight than what's listed on Sarna and MML so IDK what's going on there.
>>97759533>Arguably the purchase of the Battletech Minis rights was necessary.Like fuck it was. IWM is a cancer and should have been left to fail once the owners died. Battletech should be 3d printed minis only. Trying to sell miniatures when 3d printing exists is immoral and needs to stop. If CGL can't do that then it deserves to die.
>>97760983Don't you ever get bored of this gimmick? It's so weak.
>>97760895lol, newfag spotted
>>97760990I resent and will not ever accept having to give a company money to enjoy Battletech. If it was GW who owned the IP, I would want GW to fail. There is no moral justification to charge money for anything that is shareable on the internet, or for anything which can be 3d printed at home. Stop licking corporate boots anon.
>>97760990Where do you think you are?
>>97761013The great part about this incredible moral crusade you've decided to share with us is that it's already finished; as long as you keep being a broke ass nigga and never spend any money on any battletech content ever you can suck your own dick and live off that moisture for the rest of your miserable life.If you ain't a fake larping bastard, maybe you could try posting models you've made instead of just being uninteresting and annoying all the time.
Any lore chads know a faction that runs hordes of infantry backed by slow advancing mechs/tanks?? (Pic: taurian concordant infantry)
>>97761119Everybody in the Age of War, I guess?
I have an idea.
>>97761119I would say the faction you have in front of you anon.
19 people showed up for campaign night. First battles of a new Ghost Bear campaign
>>97761220We ran three separate tables, each with a GM and a Star of players. Ghost Bears invading the periphery in 3049.
>>97761225After making Star Captain in my Trial of Position two weeks ago I was in charge of one table of players. Gave them vague orders without getting overbearing. Had to restrain an excited new player from just charging in and instead leverage our range advantage.
>>97761233At one point, I backed up my Mad Dog to keep it out of range of a Hetzer, and our Fire Moth pilot daid "Coward", so I turned to him and said "Would you care to meet in a Trial of Grievance after this, Mechwarrior?"We were all having fun getting into it.
>>97761245After our objectives were accomplished, the pirate Crusader was still trying to fight our Mad Cat, who was actually having difficulty somehow and I gave the direct order "Do not interfere. If he does not win, he is not a Ghost Bear."He did win, but it was a closer thing than you'd expect. Lost an arm before he cored the Crusader. Fun time. Will report on next game in two weeks.
>>97761119Canopus is pretty callous with their use of infantry, and would much rather risk them than anything else.
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>>97761168>>97761217>>97761251Okay thanks guys. Also: i ordered some hex terrain from Etsy and they through in a "gift". Anyone know what kind of mech this is? (See pic)
>>97761248>>97761257Hey anon, what kind of battle mats are these? I need NOW
>>97761337CGL Fieldtech. Often out of stock. The Hextech ones are good too, but they're switching manufacturers
>>97761353Hell yea. Thanks
>>97761358If you can't get your hands on any of the fieldtech or hextech ones, the City Ruins mat is a good "soft fieldtech" that can serve the same job of being good to throw 3d terrain onto.
>>97761326Hunchback 4SP
>>97761391Thanks bud
>>97761220Thank you for sharing, this looks like it was a great time. Would love to play something like this.>>97761257That silver root timber wolf is very nice.
>>97759587oh god im a virgin whos never felt the touch of a woman and i want to tittyfuck a bitch so bad oooh god oh fuck ahghhghhhhh
>>9775382640k isn't fast and simple, it was 7 editions ago.With AS you have options to add layers of rules to make it as complicated as possible with force bigger than one lance and still make a game in 3-4h.
>>97754299Ah you are indeed stupid.You can't get heat if you are shut down and you bleed all heat after one turn of being shut down.And yes standing in water bleed heat, so when you get hit with HT weapons you want to be in water as all effects are done in end phase.It's like you try to not understand it on purpose.
>>97761758Weird flex, but not out of place in a Battletech thread.
>>97761793The addition of external heat happens after the shut down or non-firing mech goes to 0
>>97757069>>97757118I am trying to figure out witch Archangel variant to add, it either Luminous or Invictus cuz "6j is the best option out there, but I wonder if I even can get in to melee with it.
>>97758322GW have factory in UK.
>>97761758Thanks for sharing anon.
>>97761758That's a female Japanese vtuber who streams basically nothing but MWO and related things. She's decently big in the Japanese BT community.
the backstory for my lancewhy yes, it is primarily made from whats inside the beginner box>backwater mercenaries roaming around canopian space>primarily work to protect magistracy interests against the odd raid >have to get by on salvage and donations to pad out their forces>their workhorse is a vindicator donated by the capellans>piece of junk thats been destroyed and repaired multiple times>defining feature is a tally mark on the inside of its cockpit, denoting how many mechwarriors its been through>a pair of locusts, because they were piss easy to get>used for all the light work that doesnt warrant a PPC, like intimidating the locals who have never seen anything larger than an industrial mech>their shiny new toy, a shadowhawk IIc>salvaged from the clans>how and why it ended up in the opposite side of the galaxy isnt known>despite being a second-line clan unit, its easily their most powerful mech>its a hanger queen because nobody wants to so much as sneeze on it>they only bust it out when things get serious
>>97761220>>97761257This is HIGHLY cool, I asked my LFGS to get me some fieldtech mats whenever they can and want to get into printing elevation changes.
>>97760954>just make shit upKek.
>>97763100New
>>97762648Lol, no games.
While there are mechs that are widely seen across space (Wasps, Stingers, Locusts, Griffins, and Archers) and one assault mech that's mostly kept to the Inner Sphere (Stalker) by 3025, what about ground combat vehicles? What are the widely seen/easily mass-produced conventional ground combat vehicles seen across known space (except for Clan space) that are light, medium, and heavy?
>>97762034Name?
>>97761847You have 4 peeps of heat, it can't go higher.You can't overheat shut down mech. Your opponent was fucking you up.
>>97763634Wakuura Karan, @WakuuraKaranTV on youtube.
>>97761758>i want to tittyfuck a bitchIt's one of those things that sounds awesome but when you do it it's just kind of awkward and doesn't feel good. Like Alpha Strike.
