Prussian Drip Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/They used to be split between the website and the discord, but no more. For posterity's sake, the old mega will still be kept active even if it's unlikely to need updating: https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAcUse these (and/or 3D printing) instead of the official plastics as their pricing contradicts the accessibility to the game (price wise) Trench Crusade was founded on.>Trench Companion, awesome warband builder and campaign trackerhttps://trench-companion.com/>Previous Thread:>>97596349 >Thread Question:Are you interested in a version of Trench Crusade that involves tanks, vehicles, more monsters and more soldier miniatures on the tabletop battlefield?
>>97749859>TQI am interested. I would be surprised if it is not one of the planned things for the future. Original Trench Crusade game can be the nightly trench raids, and this hypothetical larger scale wargame can represent the bigger battles.Of course the biggest coolness factor of it all hinges on whether the boards are actually well made. It might be a lot harder to scratch build good looking battlefield terrain for larger scale games than small scale skirmish.
Pic rel is the Carcass Front teaser on Instagram. It should be revealed at Adepticon on the 25th? What are your expectations, I would love for a few models to get official plastic forms as well as maybe a new sub faction for HL and New Antioch. Maybe we get an English detachment.>>97749859>TQSeeing as there is an emphasis on naval battles in lore I would expect some sort of vehicle combat. I would like to play British Navy against Heretic submarines or Court Sea Monsters. https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-heretic-submarine-608062
>>97750545They've already said new plastics will be announced, judging by the pic im guessing naval raiders
>>97749859>TQI'd be interested in that in 6mm or maybe 10mm scale representations of at least company sized engagements. Ideally larger. Its trench warfare, should have scope to it.
>>97749859>TQIt would really depend. I have zero interest in a miniature range in a different scale, but I'd be fine with eventually expanding beyond skirmish into full armies with the already existing miniature scale.
>>97750545Leviathan is a big boy.
>>97754495>>97754495>>97754495>>97754495
If you were to add one subfaction to a official warband (so no Red Brigade or similar) what would you add?
>>97750545Love that image. Caspar David Friedrich is peak.For what to expect, stuff that is not announced? Campaign specific subfactions. They will tease new box of minis maybe.
>>97756381Moroccans for the sultanate.
>>97756381Pajeet Warband
>>97756381Extra suicidal Trench pilgrims
>>97756381Nordic subfaction for New Antioch. Something like Carolean-inspired soldiers with a focus on being tough bastards to dislodge, be it + Dice of morale tests, ignoring first Minor Hit result on some models, Lieutenant's Hold Fire order giving one model overwatch instead of forcing movement, etc etc
Anyone actually painting their minis? You will have to excuse my painting and poorer phone cameraWorking on my knights of avarice artillery witch and going for a purple cape with red undertones and then will do the rest in the original smoky black>TQI would actually be most interested in a 12mm scale where you get tanks and larger items such as tanks, artillery, machine gun nests and individual models such as war dogs or bulls as still single entities but then a 32/40mm base with a 5 man squad for your basics and then elites as 2/3 to a base. Forces would be about company size and have enforced platoon structures that vary with each subfaction
Working on my chemistry & alchemy Jabirean Alchemist for my House of Wisdom warband. Complete with stupid tactical rock(tm) to get the right base size and height.
>TQI would love to see a Flames of War scale TC spin-off.
>>97760024A WiP shot of my second alchemist. He's gonna be a Secrets of Takwin-focused one
>>97760110And i finally finished up the greatswords for my Takwin creature. Included a size reference pic as well. This Djinn's on the XBAWKSHUEG scale of big
>>97756381English NA for the HMI focused Warband I was promised.(Yes I know it'd be either overpowered and/or impractical as shit, but I still want my Wolf Brigade Tank men).The fantasy is a warband that can carry heavy guns, but gain partial cover ala the heavy shield rules by sacrificing maneuverability, at the expense of being able to benefit from cover normallyOr, failing that, Māori-Pacifica Trench Pilgrim warband. Cheap -1 holy icon armour, Taiaha (fancy polearms), Pounamu Patu (elite only trench club/sword, anti armour) and good with E-tools.
>>97749859>TQI am interested in such a thing, just not in 28-32mm scale.I know I am in the very small minority here but I want my "battle game" to look like one in terms of scale so I do skirmish games in 28-32mm and big, battles games in 6-10mm scale.>>97750545>What are your expectations?Naval raiders is a pretty safe bet>Maybe we get an English detachment.I hope we get a subfaction for anyone other than NA honestly.
>>977563811 - Non-sultanate muslim subfaction to the IS, like a moroccan inspired one.2 - An extra subfaction for the trench pilgrims focusing extra-hard on miracles.3 - Some sort of "nation-inspired" version of what new antioch has for the heretic legion, like heretics specifically from occupied Croatia, Georgia or Turkey, showing a hell-twisted version of those cultures and the like.4 - Some sort of hell-corrupted version of the nordic pagan religions that demons use to get them to fight against the faithful. Think of a demon pretending to be a messenger of Zeus or something similar to get the locals corrupted (Court-only)Options 3 and 4 would be way, waaaaay too controversial but I still think they'd be cool as fuck.
>>97759958been working on it on and off for a little while, they're starting to come together but still need some work
>22 posts in 2 daysWtf happened to this game? It seriously died a daeth :(
>>97762375no youtube drama for tertiaries to nag about and a bit of a content slump until we get more info on Carcass Front
>>97762375Game is dead dead. Time to mourn.
>>97762375Nothing to talk about until Carcass Front comes out and all the online grifters have moved on to bigger, juicier targets now so the shitposting schizos have likewise migrated with them.
>>97762375I've been getting ready for Adepticon so I've been away for a bit. It's a smaller game and others are leaving us be, which is absolutely a blessing.
How good are Observers in campaign?They seem kinda goated for only 3 glory points
>>97765800Pretty much all the mercs are pretty good, observers are a standout especially if you can get him promoted early
>>97749859I thought tc general died when the ea exec that operates this shit show commited to not prioritising .stl minis going forward.
>>97756381I have something of an idea for each of them> TPPeople from heretic lands which have gone to the other side. Castigator is the leader unit. Instead of prisoners they can hire Wretches, and on round start the player can take a punishment to gain other benefits (ie, everyone gets 1 Blood marker but +1D on DASH that turn).> ISExpeditionary force, in-fiction would be an agreement between the sultanate and europe to have some amount of cooperation. Would be limited in what islamic stuff they can do, but they can pick where their Elite models travelled to and gain bonuses based on that region (ie, New Antioch, Pilgrims in italy, Etheopia, etc).> NAEngineer core, can choose weird experimental equipment and models generate "Oil" markers which can be used to power up that equipment kinda like goetic spells.> HLSomething for the north. The pagans who unknowingly work for devils. Would be based around Idol-Worship, with special battlekit they must have at least one of that grants area-effects and is deployed on the map.> BGInfiltraters of non-grail areas, lack some of the strongest options but have a diversity of equipment from other factions and have a lot of movement tech and ability to modify terrain through infection - instead of modifying their bodies.> TCVariant based around the Hunters of the left-hand path. Rather than sins they pick a lodge which gives goetics to the hunters and gives them special units to place. These units would be "Prey" that are controlled by the opposing player but grant bonuses when killed.How do any of these sound? If people like I might try and make homebrew for them.
>>97759958Currently working on my Muslims. I have shaky hands but a brown wash does a great job at hiding fuckups, just need to do some extra highlights and touchups. It's okay as long as it looks fine from tabletop distance.I wanted to try painting their headwear in different colors to match their base rims. It works fine for azebs because turbans feel like a more "personal" clothing, but it doesn't look good on the jannies because the hat looks like a uniform piece, so it stands out a lot in a bad way. Any thoughts on this?>>97760126Sick model, very fitting.
>>97760126I just received that model yesterday, I was going to do mostly deep blue like aladin's genie but I really like the skin colour on yours, could I please have the recipe?
>>97768847I use GW colors so it is a 1:1 Aethermatic Blue/Contrast Medium mix over a light grey basecoat, then a 1:2 Basilicanum Grey/Contrast Medium for the muscle shading
New info on Carcass Front https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/the-carcass-front-awaits/
>>97769171Naval Raiding Party
>>97769326Procession of the Sacred Affliction
>>97768940Thank you
Something large this way comes my brothers. https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/the-carcass-front-awaits/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAQwu_hjbGNrBDC762V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHqMI0gRQvx4eUPTZOgTPFbF4lZG9-t5cLpQhxaPqlg9zqgZIjVI2n7OiChpp_aem_dPko2NhEdNmJFdJKGiM0VA
>>97769326>>97769328Apparently these aren’t all the model in the box? Not sure why they aren’t showing the whole kit and kaboodle.
>>97769613The description says there'll be 16 minis included. The fact that they don't reveal all of them seems sort of retarded to me. As for now, the box contents look kind of slim for the asking price.
>>97769613Those are the ones revealed so far. More will be revealed as the launch date draws closer
>>97769763Yeah, I don’t want to put money down for something that I can’t see the entirety of. Bizarre choice, hopefully its something they reveal in the next day or so, otherwise people are going to be confused and think this is all there is.
>>97769763I find a small issue with that as well. It shouldve been cheaper, and I dont want to pay for surprise minis that might be shit
>>97769770I’d understand the notion if it was a lead-up to a preorder, but I can’t justify spending that much money on something I’ve only seen ~60% of.I also think clickbait fags online are gonna start pumping out misinformation thumbnails like “THEY WANT *HOW MUCH* FOR **NINE** MODELS????”Just seems like a very crummy business approach.
>>97770258They're probably gonna reveal the rest at adepticon
>>97769326The guy on the right looks mean.
>>97769569Sanitize your URLs, man! That thing is uglier than a lord of tumors.
>>97769326>>97769328Priest looks cool, the Naval raiders in general are noicethe Pilgrims are Eh, not a fanOnce again Tenth Plague is just better then stinky Affliction
I'm tempted to buy Carcass Front box, but I first want to know what is included for TC backers. I mostly want the physical book.
>>97770526I thought this was the Adepticon reveal. If they show the rest in a few hours then I’ll be very happy.
>>97770724I think backers will just get a pdf version of the book
>>97770752Just now we got an update. We get digitally tokens, books and maps. Also 4 mini stls. Most likely the named characters they mentioned earlier.
>>97769328why are they mummies
>>97771289Bandages for their leprosy sores
>>97771289Leprosy
>>97771289
>>97771289Mammon blundered the one pyramid that takes no shit from anyone
Give me the tier list
>>977739751. Whichever faction has the centerpiece model you think looks the raddest.2. The rest.
>>97773975My faction >>>>>>>>> literal shit >>>>>>> your faction
>>97773975New Antioch.Burn GraileesBehead Court-cucksCurb stomp homo-heretics Sultanate and Pilgrims are cool...for now...
>>97773975Gloria Prussia, The Army with a state >>> The muzzies and other christians >> Heretics >> Hell >> Da Jooz
>>97777893So if this is weird war ww1, is Adolf in the trenches, like he was in our world?
>>97777944The year is 1914 in lore right now, Adolfi ought to be 25 right now and probably in the Trenches. I should make a Bavarian New Antioch band with him as the leader
>>97777998>>97777944Pretty much all WW2 "notables" have been alive and in fighting age in WW1. So you can make up all sorts of characters and stories.
>>97778256I would love for the Austrian schizo who believed he was Genghis Khan reincarnated to be a Mongol faction leader or dramatis personae, but the writers are too pussy for that.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-Sternberg
>>97778274>the writersBe the change you want to see. Why do you need them to write the story for your warband for you?
B-bros I know the the trench cleric said not to b-but..
>>97778417Would catch grail aids for my plague knight wife
>>97778417Man I love Plague Knights. Is it worth stomaching the rest of the disgusting range to get to have Plague Knights?
>>97778696Grail was the first warband I played, I like them. Haven't played them in a while.
Now that the dust has settled did Jeanne of Arc 1v1 the hegemon or did she use an army to defeat him?
Should I get back in the game with the carcass front ?
>>97779010Yes. Not gonna lie though not a huge fan of the heretic raiders but I think it might be the color scheme in the promo.
>>97778696You can play Dirge of the Hegemon which is built around knights as your elites giving orders to thralls with gunsIt's what I'm thinking of playing for them
>>97778346Thank you Anon, I will create my custom rules for Mongol-Austria now>>977788471v1 with the help of cherubs, or some other bullshit from heaven like a lightning strike or some such.
>>97770526>The Carcass Front box will contain 16 miniatures in total. We’ll be revealing more of them in the months running up to the release, but until then, here is a sneak peek at the first few…This implies they won't be revealing the rest, or at least not all of them, at Adepticon. The models are good and I think I'll be picking up the box regardless but I think it's very strange to not show all the models and none of the terrain despite opening pre-orders already. What do you think the remaining models will be? I presume that pic related will be joining the naval raiders.
>>97779598A sea artillery witch hopefully, your pic related too, maybe a sea sorcerer but I doubt it.I highly doubt it but I would love if part of the leviathan was included, like a big fuck off 50mm neck and head.
>>97779662The forbidden sushi...
>>97779598Always wondered what this was, like an anointed but sea raider style? It's armor is beefy like a MHI.
>>97749859Not sure I care too much about more vehicles etc on the map, I'd try it though if they released a larger game where it's not warbands but armies. Prefer the warbands though.
>>97779504My AI sloppa plague knight Grail warband OC.
>>97780179behead trannies and coomers
>>97769326These look cool but I prefer the recently finished naval kickstarter minis, maybe the witch and the annointed will change my mind though.>>97769328I really like how these affliction pilgrims look so far, specially the guy using the grindstone as a huge flail.I am very curious as to the extra bits that are going to come with the box, overall it looks like a cool box, I am not going to get it since I am still convinced FF pulled a bait-and-switch with the kickstarter and the community license so fuck them but still, it looks good so far.
>>97780216She's a fucking innocent flower you sick FUCK
>>97780257You know, not a massive fan of the afflicted pilgrims. Just not my tempo I guess.
>>97780257I'm not going to get the models as I play TTS but I'll get the books I think.
>>97778417>>97780179Black Grail best army. Don't fire damage me silly boys.
>>97780356Brother Joshua, fetch the molotov cocktail. The big one.
>>97781318>The big one.What are you gonna do with that bottle, pilgrim?
>>97782420God's work
>>97769326>>97769328Is it just me or do the pilgrims look very monopose compared to the heretics??
>>97769328>>97769326Gonna see if I can talk my brother into splitting this with me but I do with it was regular Pilgrims instead of mummy men
Are local game stores taking in the resin models from the new distributors? I was checking the element games page and saw that you can preorder the resin minis from them
>>97784931Did not know you could get resin models in LGS, mine certainly doesn't, they just have the plastic prussians and the upcoming carcass front preorder.
>>97779010Those are some cool antioch guys anon, I would give the game a try again although maybe the new minis in the box are not your thing
>>97778274>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-SternbergWtf did I just read how did these people manage to do these things
>>97786255History really writes the most crazy stories sometimes.
>>97749859Well gents.Picked up two of the goetic warlock and the plastic Prussians that just released and their black shirt anything else I should grab?
>>97786474Ah non-sideways camera
>>97786255If you're charismatic enough you can do whatever the fuck you want. I love schizos, he probably showed up screeching he was Ghengis reborn and some Mongol chads laughed and went along with it until the movement became unironic
>>97786474 her ass and tits
>>97787463What would a ln artillery witch do if you grabbed her ass???
>>97788518If she likes you, well I guess she wouldn't mind. If she dislikes you, she opens the portal to the third layer of hell, and toss you in.Have fun reading her masked face, and guessing what is her opinion of you.
>>97789038>Have fun reading her masked face, and guessing what is her opinion of youSo she's just a normal woman?
>>97789038I will happily let her use my blood to spawn in artillery shells, as long as she sits on my face with her big bombs if you know what I mean>Lust faction when?
Found a retailer doing the new intro box for 20% off but even then I dont know if I wanna pay $240 for what, 15 models?And what's the deal are they new factions or new models in an existing faction?Thinking of getting into it but not sure this is a good deal
>>97791530>20% off>$240The product is literally $130 on their site. Still under $200 with the shipping. Sounds like your retailer is full of shit.
>>97791705240 Australia dollars It retails for 290 australian dollars in Australia
>>97792043Ah that makes more sense
Played a game and got rolled as New Antioch because I forgot about fireteams. It's over for me.
>>97780257Im interested in how much the lobster-leviathan will be relevant to the game.Will it be, like, environmental hazards? Maybe the thing the hell faction are trying to revive? Its corpse parts as locations to find in between games?
I like the fact we're getting Naval Raiders in plastic. Ship/navy/ocean dwelling groups are my favourite sort of faction in basically any game.
>>97792590If you have a 3D printer I heavily recommend this. It makes for a good setting piece or a way to carry your bandhttps://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-heretic-submarine-608062
>>97792348>playing the technical faction>forget about your entire technical mechanicYeah anon, it's joever>>97786795No u>>97792701I concur with this anon, I'm still in the middle of getting it setup for use with a diorama board, but it wasn't ready because I'm a lazy shit
>>97792830It gets worse, I'd didn't use any satchels either. Absolutely dominated by Court.
Trench Pilgrims and Heretics confirmed best factions.
Game updated from adepticon coming soon bros, would do we think they'll be?
>>97793898Naval raider and Procession rules most likely, maybe a couple buffs/nerfs and new mercenaries but I think the mercs will be revealed later on for the box.Prussia buffs because I love them.
>>97794212Updated community license maybe???
>>97794224God please. Anything to make the youtube clickbaiters to shut the fuck up.
>>97770258>I’d understand the notion if it was a lead-up to a preorder, but I can’t justify spending that much money on something I’ve only seen ~60% of.Right but I think the point is to reveal the rest of the box closer to its launch date so people don't just basedjack over everything now and then forget about it when it actually launches.
>>97759135Hasn't enough damage been done to the game?>>97767975Dope models friend. Red and blue is good colour scheme for those two.
>>97793898- Original KS designs being redone in plastic - Original STLs being redone as multipart (free update for people who already had them)Once again they have betrayed the 3D printing commu-ACK!
>>97796783Can't believed the dev team announced a new trench crusade eroge as their next product.
>>97797221Love and Trench Foot.A love story about how a man lost a leg due to trench foot and was abandoned by his team mates. After being found by Heretic Troopers he was about to be raped for a thousand years, but the Heretics' Artillery Witch stopped them and adopted him as a pet.Get ready for love that burns brighter than the lake of fire. Will a creation of Hell learn what true love means? Will this one lucky guy find out how many times one must mating press a demon to get it pregnant?
I wish Turnip was as popular as this, or that this didnt have the reputation it does, I keep coming back to check how its going but its the same controversies and more, and Im sad to see TC is moving away from people being creative and making their own stuff to people just flexing that they bought the official models or prints like its Warhammer, and the setting itself is predictably dull still, its just grimdark blood and gore with no hope in sight and everything sucks everywhere, again. Then you look over at Turnip everyone is having fun, the community isnt full of the insufferable dregs and culture war shit, its just the game and people making bespoke models based on their interpritation of their own faction within the setting, but it never took off like this did. The one off game rules do not work well with this game at all if you actually look at it (Pilgrims have no ressurection mechanic, and without it are just a really expensive fodder unit with no effects, thralls are utterly worthless in one off games too etc) so I cant get people to even try it and probably wouldnt enjoy it myself.Do you reckon they would ever do wargame rules? I have never been able to get people into campaign games, its too much commitment it seems.
>>97749859>Are you interested in a version of Trench Crusade that involves tanks, vehicles, more monsters and more soldier miniatures on the tabletop battlefield?I retrieved Imperial Guard from the basement to sell them on ebay and seeing how many models those are compared to TC makes me appreciate how compact TC is.
>>97797930I promise you my dude, that these controversies literally are made up nonsense or issues that were resolved months ago. There is no culture war shit except those that are coming from like two YouTubers. Everyone is just playing the game. The only thing I'd warrant as being controversial is possibly the community licence which is being rewritten and frankly, I'd challenge anyone to find a company who just opens their IP for people to sell.
>>97798205No no, I KNOW that, but this is the outsiders perspective of the game, and on looking inside you see that they are not moving to making over priced model ranges. Youve got big youtube videos talking about how its being ran badly and is now trying to just become Warhammer in the worst ways. Theyre moving to patents and branding. Theyre trying to BE Warhammer rather than an antivenom to it. I wanted this to be what Turnip is, but popular, now its that game noone plays but everyone knows.I really cant get anyone to play it. It being a skirmish campaign game makes it impossible to just show up and play too. They should just rip off Turnips rules and make a wargame version of it, where its still got factions and unit types but they are far more open to interpritation and equipping with whatever you want.
>>97797930>>97798258You are quite literally contributing to the very thing you are complaining about and are clearly in no rush to change things. How about instead of whining that this game isn't Turnip but popular, you actually post and discuss what you like about TC on its own merits rather than bitching about controversies made up by YouTube grifters and political activists who would have hated the game no matter how it released?
My Kickstarter TC book arrived at last. I didn't see any problems with it.>butI just don't like the direction and vibes TC started taking so I want to sell it. Or should I just keep it as a memento to be wary of what kickstarters I back?
>>97792590>Ship/navy/ocean dwelling groups are my favourite sort of faction in basically any game.Based fishman.
>>97798442>Or should I just keep it as a memento to be wary of what kickstarters I back?If you support any Kickstarter at all you deserve extreme suffering, so keep it as a reminder not to be so fucking RETARDED in the future.
>>97798442What direction and vibes though? What changed my nigga?
>>97798469They should release English Marines to counter Heretic Sea Raiders
Is the game still kitbash friendly or is that sentiment changing in the community?
>>97798433I LIKED that people were making their own stuff and interpriting factions to make their guys, there was a community around sharing what they made and coming up with concepts and hanging it on the games rules, now people are just showing off official models and printing STLs and calling it a day. It went from>this is the spirit of tabletop I want to see more ofto>were trying to be Warhammer, that game you wanted an alternative to because it was doing stupid shit>>97798495Its model agnostic, but people are largely just using models intended for it now, its the whole reason Ive backed off myself.
>>97798493Oh topical! I like it.
>>97798504>but people are largely just using models intended for it now, its the whole reason Ive backed off myself.>I stopped doing the thing I like because other people are doing it differently You really are a COLOSSAL FAGGOT.
>>97798504>now people are just showing off official models and printing STLs and calling it a day>Its model agnostic, but people are largely just using models intended for it nowBut they genuinely aren't though. People use 3rd party prints and kit bashes all the time. If you look on the Facebook page as an example you see people with customs. Same with discord.
>>97798495Pretty much gone now.
>>97798495It is still kit bash. Rules are free, it's model agnostic. Many people use third party prints.
>>97798495Kitbash away bud.
>>97798475Alright.I do hold out hope that things will turn around and maybe I can flip the book for a big payout. But obviously I forgot about Murphy's Law on this one.>>97798488>What changed my nigga?To keep it simple we all knew that TC would blow up to be big. And then we had to hold our breath that they don't come to be like Games Work. But they started pretty quickly. Like they sold themselves on making sure they gave off good vibes that they wouldn't be like GW but then 180'd on that shit. Didn't think they would speedrun it but they did. Only good thing about this whole thing is that they finally made me seriously look at 3D printers and now I've got a wash+cure station, a printer, and a 2TB external SSD for it all. Wish I got into that sooner.
>>97798569How are they speed running to be like GW?
>>97798518Because I wanted to see the things people make instead of just seeing people posting official merch...great. I didnt want TC to turn into a community of people just asking for more model ranges and everyone just starts using those and its all you see now. You can still kitbash, but whats the point, youre the only one doing it, everyone else just wanted to buy merch that looked closer to the official designs, doing anything creative is second. Its become Warhammer, thats the community now. I expressedly didnt want that, I wanted away from that and back to people making unique stuff that is destinctly theirs.
>>97798585>Because I wanted to see the things people make instead of just seeing people posting official merch...great. I didnt want TC to turn into a community of people just asking for more model ranges and everyone just starts using those and its all you see now. You can still kitbash, but whats the point, youre the only one doing it, everyone else just wanted to buy merch that looked closer to the official designs, doing anything creative is second. Its become Warhammer, thats the community now. I expressedly didnt want that, I wanted away from that and back to people making unique stuff that is destinctly theirs.Lot of words to admit to being a COLOSSAL FAGGOT, anon.
>>97798585They literally have discord channels to show of your warbands and TC art filled with kit based stuff and personal art. All their socials have custom shit. Their official painting completion has a category for custom models, you absolute bad faith faggot. You literally did not join the kickstarter, post your list immediately and tell me about literally any game you played with the hard cover core rules.
>>97798603Enjoy your merch I guess, Ill come back in a few months and see the next controversy. >>97798607I never said I was in the kickstarter, thats a different person.
>>97798628As already stated, there is a strong kitbash community, as strong as it ever was. No idea where you've got the idea that it doesn't and that it's turning into GW. Only two people have said that and both were banned for basically shouting the N word in a discord server and THAT is when suddenly TC is "speed running to become GW".
>>97798628>Enjoy your merch I guess, Ill come back in a few months and see the next controversy.BYE BYE! Don't come back :D
>>97798642Im on their Facebook and Bluesky and its just them posting the official models and people begging for more of them. Where are you seeing this stuff? I remember way back people were posting their creations constantly.
>>97798682>BlueskyWe know what you are.
>>97796783>Original KS designs being redone in plasticDoes this mean plastic trench pilgrims with the pointy metal hats and plastic shrine anchorites? (sp)
>>97798642>As already stated, there is a strong kitbash community>all /TCG/ posts stopped being kitbashes months ago >all facebook posts have been stl sales and new boxes sure
>>97798582>How are they speed running to be like GW?I hope you aren't trolling. If you are then I hope you change and grow for the better as pretending to be dumb isn't very smart.The kickstarter fuckups being the first hole in the boat.The plastic prices is the big one. This happened after Tuomas once talked about how this hobby is for the privileged in terms of wealth and wanted the game more accessible. >inb4 3D print and proxyI can do that for any game. It just feels wrong to me to be free advertising to a GW alternative that is corroding. Then the DMCA shit.Then the community license thing that just gives off the same vibes that the bad WOTC license did that made the 5e community shit their pants and start shouting. I think WOTC backed down.>But what really hurts the most for meThe community not just here but elsewhere and even at the LGS. I think a lot of trolling has been cracking the community a bit. I can go into more details if you all want on that part of things.
>>97798737>Muh Community!>I MUST BELONG!!!If you're this desperate to be a "part" of something, either get into a hobby that isn't fucking tabletop games or kys lmfao
>>97798682I mean, I'm going to have to assume you're being a bad faith retard now I'm afraid but literally the first posts are kit bashes on the official page. I can scroll down like two posts and get a complete custom sculpt.
>>97798689Anon...Everything is on Facebook and Bluesky but not Twitter because they formally declared they are migrating to Bluesky like a year ago.
>>97798750Post it, Im not seeing it. I scrolled all the way to December of last year and its nothing but posting official models and con stuff, that shows official models.
>>97798737It's literally a free game you dumb fuck, what are you blathering about. Literally regurgitating the same shit that was dealt with months ago and talking about a community licence that was totally fine anyway compared to literally every other fucking table top and is being rewritten after feedback. >B-BUT THEY HAD TO BE GIVEN FEEDBACK!Nooooo! Not the business interacting with it's consumer base to do better noooo! Just fuck off, you literally don't play wargames.
>>97798745>I must belongSometimes it is best to recognize when a community isn't worth belonging to. In this case the TC community is that. Personally I blame genuine trolls like yourself that made good parts of it bitter and seeing trolls everywhere.With that said.Please change and grow for the better anon.
>>97798745Starting to see why people say this community is just insufferable.
>>97798784>>97798778>community>(Any tabletop game)There's your problem, sperg.
I hate how every thread is people who like the game arguing with people who have already decided they'll never engage with it aside from to criticise. Seriously, what's the point? Why are you wasting your time trying to convince people who have clearly already decided the game is the devil?For people who don't like the game, they don't like it and that's fine. There's a lot of tabletop games out there
>>97798767Are you talking about the publisher page with like 29k followers or the main page with 90k followers? The publisher page is their socials which you cannot post on. The official 90k+ one has all the kitbashes etc.
>>97798810It's because they outright lie which puts people off. I've literally had to explain to a friend that most of this stuff is bullshit and they now play the game. Where it for these faggots he never would have.
>>97798796I hope you find an actually chill tabletop community that is fun to be around. I found it with historical wargamers. >>97798810I sometimes come back from time to time to see if things have turned around if the holes in the boat have been plugged. I usually come back disappointed. I backed the kickstarter so it hurts a bit seeing that things didn't work out. But personally I think the trolls have won here and this general is just to contain the damage that has been done from /awg/. Like everything is seen as trolling if you aren't glazing TC you are interpreted as a troll. I know it is a beaten dead horse to mention Arch/chuds given how rent free he is here, but his minions have really done sincere damage.
So since we seem to be on the topic of kitbashes and official models, I was making BG Dirge and was going to model them after Napoleonics since they use basic firearms, so I was going to make the commander a skele on a horse, and the chaff units skeletons in uniforms with 2 models per base so they look like line infantry, is there an official design or model range for them that shows what theyre suppose to look like?I was always curious what theyre meant to look like given theyre husks without the disease and flies motiff, and are cognitive enough to use firearms. Im still going to do it my way but what are they SUPPOSE to look like.
>>97798926I don't think there's official art yet, think there's one showing them all with a dude playing a violin which is basically it I think but what you've described sounds perfect to me, even that starter kitbash looks tip top.
>>97798824I had a friend send me the fucking janovich video saying "I remember you liked this game, is this true?", so that was annoying but anyone on /tg/ has long made up their mind by now if they even care at all.>>97798894Seems like the game is big enough at adepticon and they're selling enough of the new kits to continue making new ones, this board is just populated with a lot of people who strongly dislike it, and they won't be convinced otherwise.
>>97798990Tuomas has said in a interview that every time people come up with drama, the visitors to their website and sales go up. Trolls and grifters only make the game more succesful.
Real talk, what the deal with a small subset of people desperate for the lore to include other religions as being "true" and also trying to spin that heretic lands aren't "that bad", whack.
>>97798990>Seems like the game is big enough at adepticon and they're selling enough of the new kits to continue making new ones, this board is just populated with a lot of people who strongly dislike it, and they won't be convinced otherwise.Yeah it is.I'm not mad at any of the insults I get when I express myself here. I think it is just a reflection of the damage real loser trolls have done to this place and community.I think this place got the worst of it.>>97799029>every time people come up with drama, the visitors to their website and sales go up. Trolls and grifters only make the game more succesful.I think this is similar to how some people benefit and profit from bad publicity. Think "clout chasers" doing stupid shit for attention that somehow unfortunately translates to money.I just think it isn't a good thing as it would be better if the benefits and profits came from genuine positive publicity.
>>97798753>I had to go in the mud because that's where the pigs hang outOr you could just... not.
>>97799046Don't get the religion thing, thematically it makes sense for it to be Abrahamic mysticism. Also the constant ask to include Aztecs is lame, they probably would never have formed in the divergent timeline.
>>97798585>>97798628>freely admits to being a controversy whore only here to jerk off to the next thing he can doompost about>completely abandons his whole "I wish TC was more like Turnip waaaaaaa" narrativeI'm eternally glad you two-faced faggots will always expose yourselves if given enough time.
>>97798894>But personally I think the trolls have won here and this general is just to contain the damage that has been done from /awg/.Nobody here gives a shit about your general. Go back.
>>97799046Redditors and Twittertards being retarded and trying to push a "gray-gray morality" theming where it doesn't belong, mostly. Most of these people grew up in abusive households that used Christianity as an excuse to browbeat and control their kids so they've completely adopted a worldview of Christianity (if not all religions, but especially Christianity) being pure evil and something 'holding us back' but still want to be a part of communities involving religious factions and shit like that, so they try to mold these settings to fit their outlook; "the Church is fundamentally evil, their god is cruel and evil, all forms of authority are tyrannical, etc". If other religions are "true", then they can further enforce their viewpoint of the Church being heinous and not actually defending humanity at all and their persecution of the heretics as being "wrong".The problem is this flatly doesn't work in TC. The Faithful go to extreme lengths in the war yes, but they are fighting Literal Hell. There is no room for moral relativism or different shades of black here - Hell is absolute 100% Pure Pitch-Black Evil and seeks only to torture all creation for all eternity. There is no way to subvert expectations and make it less bad, and this drives these morons up a wall.
>>97799812>The Faithful go to extreme lengths in the war yes, but they are fighting Literal Hell. There is no room for moral relativism or different shades of black here - Hell is absolute 100% Pure Pitch-Black Evil and seeks only to torture all creation for all eternity.My thoughts exactly, you can argue that one side is a dark shade of grey but that's a moot point when the other is just complete and absolute black.
>>97799911Not to mentioned the faithful are only doing "morally grey" things BECAUSE of the other side (who is vanta-black evil)
>>97798926Started the chaff guys, seems 2 to a base fits easily. Wanted to test what they would look like with faceless meat heads, like "lying figures" from Silent Hill, like the color scheme would be all black with the pasty featureless faces, but I think Id rather go with skeletons or zombies so its more obvious whats going on now that Ive done it.I feel they should probably be more horrific given they are one of the few factions that have a fear effect, but I dont know what to do yet.
>>97799812I'm pretty sure that Tuomas has said hell in the TC universe is place of metaphysical evil. But because the game is grimdark, both sides are morally questionable. Which leads to some into conclusion that both sides are bad, which they are, even if other side has better end goals.Although, if church wins, which it most likely will, because end times prophecies have church still operating. The monstrous church that the war against hell has forged, would most likely be the one co-opted by the antichrist, and conquer over all of the earth. Honestly, I kind of think that is hell's 4D chess strategy. To create a church that is so compromised on the christian teachings, that the demons can just take it over from the inside.
>>97798205>Everyone is just playing the gamenobody is playing this shit lmao
>>97800109If you say so lil bro.
>>97800136Post your games then, bitchboi.
>>97800156BG v IS - claim no man's land, IS victory NA v IS - trench warfare, draw gameNA v CSS - supply raid , CSS victoryTP v IS - relic hunt, TP victory (anchorites go hard)NA v CSS - supply raid, NA victoryAll on table top sim.
>>97800198>All on table top sim.HA!So after all this, you don't even play the fucking game?!Christ. Rofl.
>>97800214What the fuck are you talking about faggot, do you know what table top sim is?
>>97800214>>97800227What is consensus on cumming on the opponent's Artillery Witch during play? There's nothing on the rules that speaks against it, does it lay claim on the mini since the owner no longer wants it? Thoughts?/??/
>>97800227>No models>No terrain >No paint>I PLAY THIS GAME!LmfaoJust fucking kys dude, it's over.
>>97800258>didn't know what TTS wasVery based, you obviously don't play wargames, nice try lil bro.
>>97800258I smash my minis with a hammer after I get to play online with them. Like bruh I have the online version now why would I need these shit :,D
>>97800198>table top sim.
>>97800256It would be rude not to in my opinion.
>>97800198>All on table top sim.
>>97800276>Trying to pretend TTS is playing the gameVery based, you obviously don't play wargames, nice try lil bro.Have fun reading your audiobooks!
>>97800278smash>>97800286pass
>>97800214>wait you actually...play the game!/tg/ is fucking clown shoes sometimes
>>97800297>play>TTS>playlel
>>97800198>>97800227>>97800276Anon...no...
>>97800306What the fuck is TTS
>>97800306>he doesn't play wargames >he only discussed second hand lore on a Indonesian pottery forum ok kiddo
Wait /tg/ hates table top simulator?
I think we should hang GW employees
>>97800332No, one guy does and he's just trolling, most people like to go to a local store and play but table top sim is fine
>>97800319I paint too.....
>>97800350Sure pal.
I play on TTS as well but it's because all my bros are in different countries and I don't have a local game store. Is it over for me?
>>97800350Live stream it right now and you best down a bottle of paint to prove its not AI>>97800351I aint your pal ZoomeR
>>97800332Only if you pretend it is "playing" the game. For example, audiobooks are fine, but you didn't read the book. TTS is fine, but you didn't play the game. >>97800339>one guyCope harder.
>>97800350Live stream and paint a shoe on your head.
>>97800353>Is it over for me?'tis over for everyone. Have you seen the news lately?!
>>97800363You mom played this dick for real last night just after a finished playing TC on table top sim.
>Trench Crusade General - Tabletop Simulator
>>97800332Never seen hate towards it before. Its most likely one troll posting.
>>97800369Actually it was me, your left ball is much smaller than the right, I would go to the doctors if I were you
>>97800378Dude its a video game made by the JEWS, how could you play it? You need to shill out hundreds of dollars and time to try out a game once
>>97800388What the fuck are you talking about? I got it for like $15 dollars and never bought anything else.
>>97800396>What the fuck are you talking about? Not surprised TTShitter is an illiterate retard lmfao
>>97800396>responding to the baithahahoho even
>>97800396It cost only 15$ but it took so many hours off of your life and then it emptied your soul reservesSource: >>>>/x/
>>97800396Are you serious? You're not this dumb. Right?
>>97800396wow...
>>97800198>table top simGenuinely, if youre ok with this, why not just play an actual videogame instead of something that is made specifically with rules in mind to address having to play it in reality, with turn based combat and dice rolls for everything.
>>97798585Do you understand what an incredibly secondary take this is?"I thought TC would be a content all-star for me, and I'd be able to swipe through pictures of other ppl's labour to entertain myself. No, I haven't kitbashed anything myself, why do you ask?"
>>97800778>I thought TC would be a content all-star for meNope, didnt want TC to move to being a platform to sell models is all. >No, I haven't kitbashed anything myself, why do you ask?I have, it was the whole thing that got my interest in TC, like hell Ill post it because under this context it would just be torn to shit no matter what. I guarantee without question you have not made anything for this. All anyone is talking about with TC now is new models to buy. Its become Warhammer, thats not what I wanted.I was a fan, Im not just shitting on the game for the sake of it, I dont like that noone wants to play this and that its just fallen into the 40k trap of 90% of players not even playing the game and are just buying overpriced models to put in a corner and claim they are a staunch advocate for how good the game is despite not playing it, or they are repulsed by the coverage of the game, wrong or not. I cannot get people to play this, and I honestly dont think you have either. These threads are always remarkably abscent of models and games being posted.
>>97793488You'll remember next time anon, the important part is having a good time and rolling dice with the bois>>97800061These will be great dithering looks really fun as a theme anon>>97800198Welcome anon, don't let others discourage you, learning to play is part of the hobby, but so is making the models and painting them, don't be afraid to ask for advice either anon
Just ordered the Carcass Front and some Sniper Priests. I already own the Prussians, I just haven't built or painted them yet. Slowly, but surely, my interest is growing. It looks like there's a lot of new lore on the TC website so I'll be reading that tomorrow.I think the Trench Pilgrims are probably my favourite guys thus far, so I hope they get made into plastic, that would be super.
>>97801334I think the rest of the lepers line will get plastic ala what happened with new antioch.I'm excited to see what the inevitable arty witch is going to look like
>>97800877Why is your enjoyment so critically-dependent on what other people do? To the point that you can only engage with this game if every other is person is forced to engage with it on the same terms.> I cannot get people to play thisYeah, that's because there are no models for it. How NEET are you on a scale of 1 to 10? Other people have lives and responsibilities and may not want to learn to kitbash and sculpt then research different model kits to combine then order everything then mock it all up and do the actual building. Why is this personally offensive to you? Because you're channelled much of your self-worth into your ability to do those things?
>>97798585> Surprised people from Warhammer immediately treat any other wargame like their beloved warhammasloppaDon't worry, when 11th releases 99% will run back, TC won't be profitable, and Tuomas will fuck off to make another grift
>>97801465>Why is this personally offensive to you? Because you're channelled much of your self-worth into your ability to do those things?What the fuck is this schizobabble. I am complaining that it needs PR win rather than strings of bullshit that drive people away so more people are interested in actually playing the game, what the hell does people having jobs and shit have to do with anything. How the fuck are you sitting here running defence for the game when you yourself dont even play it, what the fuck is this lol.Are you one of those people that goes "I love tabletop games. Oh no, I dont actually play them, I just read the lore and rules. This game is great.". Im talking about the game being something people actually play rather than read about anon, its why I specifically said I wanted wargame rules for TC. Campaign games are awful for trying to get people into playing, TC being as controversial to the layman doesnt help at all. Again, noone actually seems to be playing the game, they just want to buy models, at least before people were making unique models even if they werent playing it, now were just in the phase of "that expensive, but Ill buy it cus it looks cool. Straight into the pile of shame because I dont play the game, back to Warhammer".>>97801556He already has started working on some other game. I cant remember the name of it, it was to do with "duelists", its not made by him this time either.
>>97800198> All on tabletop simI'm sure this sounded a lot cooler in the your head, but it's actually fucking pathetic.The only thing more pathetic than playing TC is VIRTUALLY playing TC, so you don't even do the modeling, converting, or painting.You are just the most pathetic thing here holy shit
>>97800227Ok this is really a false flag troll, right?Dear God let that be the case
>>97801593Just to clarify on this becuase it seems harsh. I want this game to succeed, I am frustrated it is doing everything it can to just be a thing people buy models from and dont give a fuck about the game itself. I want a viable Warhammer alternative, not something thats only value is its range of expensive models.
