>Is another "99% of the world revolve around humans" caseNice "fantasy" bro.
>>97753662Cry more
>>97753662boobies
>>97753662My "humans" aren't actually humans.They're just named that and look like us for expediency.
art needs to have humans in it, because art without a reflection of ourselves is worthless, it needs to say something about us.
>>97753793>t. redditor
A dominant species will call themselves "Human" and their planet "Earth" because thats what those words mean
>>97753793Nigga never watched the Angry Birds movies
>>97753856shit movie
>>97753856Angry Birds was commentary about the mass migration of Muslims into Europe.>invaders have beards & bombs>3 main characters are the colors of the German flag>they go to a literal symbol of America for help>invaders do bad things to children
>>97753870
>>97753870>commentary about the mass migrationCould have stopped thereThough it is more about invasion and refusal to assimilate
>>97753662So true sister, it needs pointy eared humans and short humans and horned humans too.
>>97753662>totally unique and original never been done before setting doesn't have humans>all the not humans act exactly like humans and are parodies on human cultures
>>97753662Which game and how did this affect your last session?
>>97753662Yes, my fantasy involves humans running the world instead of lizard people.
>>97753662While this thread is just an excuse to post titty elves, a Wolfenstein-esque fantasy setting where elves are the dominant species and are vaguely nazi-coded (in cultural values and sorta in politics, not economic success or QoL standards), sounds pretty fun.
The Pirotess nogames waifufag is getting desperate.
>>97753662>t. shits his pants with rage if someone suggests an automated carriage for their fantasy settingYou want the status quo just as much as the rest, knifear lover.
>>97753793every single intelligent fantasy race is a reflection of humans thoughbeit
>>97754950>Muh technoligeee.An Autocarriage would work anon.The issue with technological development in ttrpg's isn't the advancement, it's the balance and the themes and the dynamics.It's why Maximilian plate armour works in trad fantasy, unlike handgonnes, because the former doesn't change any of the themes or dynamics of the setting, while handheld firearms easily can.
>posting some animu bimbo who exist solely to orbit a humanThe absolute irony of goonfags.
>>97754932>excuse to post titty elvesOh good, I love titty elves.
>>97753662The thing that lore settings never take into account when talking about races with long lifespans is how they remain mentally coherent for hundreds of years. I am not even talking about basic things like dealing with trauma, loss, etc, but just basic fact that in order to retain power in such a system one must either be incredibly devious or incredibly brutal. In my setting, the Elves were the overlords due to their longevity, however, Elves typically died in their 200s more often than not from rebellions from younger Elvens who realised they'd never get any chance at power or governing and corrupted themselves from basic plrinciples of ... ambition and want for more. And most Elves that live into their 500s are mentally unstable and usually ritualstically killed off to prevent calamities, sorcerous outbreaks/destruction, etc. Humans are an enduring, adaptive race that is also more comfortable with concepts of ambition. the Elves have to deal with too many of these additional problems to have enduring reigns, and thus the humans overthrew the Elves.
>>97754950>knifearOh no, it's unoriginal AND an ESL
>>97755275>best dadAH'M GONNA BE DA WORLD'S BEST DADJUST LIKE THE DADI NEVA HADBISH
>>97755325Vect here, it's pretty cool.
>>97755325Won't stop you if you want to write elves like that and think it works for your settting.But one should not make the mistake of assuming that elves and other long-lived fantasy races should have the same exact psychology as humans, while their lifespans are just longer. They might shun positions of power, material wealth and centralized organizations for exactly these reasons. And instead favor self-improvement, flat hierarchies and decentralized organizations.Please don't write cultures and government systems that simply shouldn't work. Otherwise, you won't be able to explain how they manage to form a society in the first place.
>>97755363>But one should not make the mistake of assuming that elves and other long-lived fantasy races should have the same exact psychology as humansi imagine they are even more "connected" than humanity is, just given perspective of time. also psychologically speaking, they are typically considered the "elder race" and likely have stronger residual connections to the gods/creators and of course leylines/magic in the world. At least in our setting, this is how it looks. On one hand, this gives them the ability to understand and comprehend far more than any human would, but on the other, it exposes them to far greater levels of corruption (or at least the chance of it).>shun positions of powerthis would be up to the culture. typically, mammals desire a certain amount of sovereignty and control which, in our game, the Elves had over the world being the Elder Race that was first put into the universe by the gods. humanity came after, almost as a mistake. the Elves were ruling originally in a single empire, but succession and so on became complex, especially when you had 200 sons and so on. overpopulation was one of the first problems faced by the elves which led to great wars and conflicts which eventually fracutred their realm.then add the layer of corruptuioin from beyond, as some elves were drawn to the limitations of the barriers put on them. what point in living 700 years if you will never truly live those centuries? and in this case, laws were put into place to keep population numbers controlled and to simply kill off elves at a certain point. this also led to internal feuding and the like. a race that cannot come to terms with its longevity, intelligence, access to the complex/forbidden/unknown, and of course, not able to juggle the paradox of being both a mammal and yet possess the kind of connection to the creators and to the essence of magic itself. >decentralized organizationswell then in your setting you explained why humanity would take over
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>>97755377>well then in your setting you explained why humanity would take overNo, I think decentralized structures are very resilient and centralized organizations tend to implode over their own weight. Like in your setting, where elves seemed like they had exactly one empire. Instead of splintering off into different nations, kingdoms and realms.>a race that cannot come to terms with its longevity, intelligence, access to the complex/forbidden/unknownThat applies to my other point. Apparently, your elves were either made or developed to have this huge lifespan, yet they cannot deal with it, which begs the question why they have it in the first place. Elves written to be fail, their mistake was being elves.
>>97755308is that a titty elf or is it a pair of tits with a vestigial elf attached?
>>97755417>No, I think decentralized structures are very resilientok? but decentralization is not governance and the void it creates will be filled by something else, such as humans. who will bring with them centralized forms of authority and set up civilizations with presence. >Instead of splintering off into different nations, kingdoms and realms.they did, as this empire fell apart from fact that the way elves exist was not sustainable to itself. as iw rote, its the paradox of the elves as they have too long of life, too much opportunity to amass vast knowledge and power, and thus more often than not destroy itself. and leaves them wide open to external, corrupting powers. prior to the rise of humanity, the elves could claim to live in a kind of celestial peace, but this was disrupted by their own folly and, well, arrogance, and fact that their old age led them into isanity more often than not, and the fact they had massive families which could not be supported. famine and war was result of this, assassinations and so on. >elves written to be failtheir paradox. on one hand, everything it as ideal as one could wish. but what happens when you have entire race of nearly immortal, powerful, magically attuned mammals?
>>97755419It's a pornrot caricature enjoyed by barbaric brownoids that know elves primarily from hentai.
>>97755443>who will bring with them centralized forms of authority and set up civilizations with presenceAnd elves are just poor victims that led this to happen?>but what happens when you have entire race of nearly immortal, powerful, magically attuned mammals?I'm glad we have fantasy to explore ideas like this, but if the answer is yet another medieval stasis with human kingdoms, then I'm swearing a Feanorian oath on the whole genre.
>>97755275>while handheld firearms easily can.Given how most fantasy gives bows and crossbows the speed, accuracy, and stopping power of rifles, not really.
>>97755308There is always a good reason to post titty elves, even when there's no reason to.
>>97753747based
>>97755478>And elves are just poor victims that led this to happen?no, the history is thousands of years old. and elves have had their fair share of golden eras, its only that once other races started to take shape their lifecycle could not sustain itself especially with overpopulation and intrigue disrupting their internal affairs all of the time. >stasisits more like post-rome where things were still developing only other knowledge was lost. the elves were not forthcoming with their secrets and never trusted the younger races, nevermind each other. there were elves that simply went insane, accumulating power for themselves and carving out their own kingdoms and empires. but as a ruling race, the elves crushed themselves, through infighting and intrigue, again, like how in rome when emperors were dying every other year. the foundation of elven society was not sustainable already, then add in the growth of other races and they weren't able to hold things together. technology still develops, but the elves were children of magic and didn't rely on the hard technologies that other races did. that isn't to say that elven researchers and developers didn't exist its just the concept of progress fore them technologically was much different from those taken by the humans, who were fueled by ambition more so than the elves ever were.
>>97755332>knigger-lover can't into portmaneauSad!
>>97753662thanks :)
>>97755419The former obviously, elves have complete mastery over their own tits.
>>97755652>goblin bro about to be vaporized to give us a gander of those milkers
>>97755687Damn those are some weird looking nips.
>>97755687Hyperfags truly are a blight.
>>97755715It's just pornbrain tourists. They don't like elves and never touched a rulebook to read their description.
>>97755308>>97755707Why do they always give the brown ones white hair?
>>97754949>says the pathetic spastic who's been reposting the same images for over a decade
>>97755687I don't have any pics that come anywhere close to the right, I think this is the biggest I've got.
>>97755743It's aesthetic contrast, and a way to somehow indicate not being human
Jokes on you, my current plot line revolves around vampires feuding with uppity spirits.
>>97753662Yes, because humans are objectively the supreme species.
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>>97753662The reality is that Fantasy has always been post-apocolyptic.
>>97755325>The thing that lore settings never take into account when talking about races with long lifespans is how they remain mentally coherent for hundreds of yearsBut most do though. Usually one of two ways, biologically different brains that are build different from humans or that long lived beings in the setting are inherently magical and thus don't have to explain shit. D&D does both for almost all of their long lived races. I mean if you actually read the lore on D&D elves you would realize how utterly different they are from humans on some pretty fundamental levels, including basically not really needing to sleep all that often, instead regularly meditating to tap into the collective ancestral mind thingy or whatever the fuck it's called. The only time such a complaint would ever come up is if you are dealing with humans with unaltered human brains that somehow vastly unnaturally expanded their lifespan without in any way modifying their brain. As far as the rest of your post, that is just your personal twist on it to suit your taste, which is fine, but obviously not the only way to do things.
>>97755960Do Elves have cocks? If they do, they're mammals, and if they're mammal they'll have impulses. I always liked the thought that Elves who live into the 400s-500s are either mentally insane or basically Japanese film style monk.
>>97755733Wrong description.
>>97756001Okay, scream at the porndrones.
>be able to live a thousand years>have 1 or 2 kidsThis has always been the biggest flaw in Elves that I simply omit them from my games. It doesn't make sense at all.
>>97756013I will when I see them.
>>97756039>already filtered the same pornographic bimbosI don't using this method myself, but pretty based.
At what point would Elves just kill themselves because what meaning could you possible derive after 500 years of not having sex
Guys, I don't think anons like >>97756058 and >>97756013 know what porn is.
>>97756062Why are you assuming that their psychology and biology aren't adapted to their lifespans?Like Tolkien elves for instance, they just learn new skills and become more knowledgeable.
>>97756095Tolkien Elves are incels that literally can't fuck and have kids so they just run away to North America. This was never compelling for me. They don't fuck and just moan about how mean the world is, how the fuck did they survive all those centuries just to turn into that?
>>97753793basically this but rephrasedi would say it like this: no humans --> cant relate --> people dont want itas boring as that sounds, its the reason really different fantasy setting almost always fail>inb4 me and my fellow /tg/ autists actually love thatto bad
>>97756099They do fuck, they have kids and can have large families.Please don't fall for "elves in Middle-Earth are dying out because they don't fuck" shitposting. They are leaving, and are doing wonderfully fine over there in Arda.Tolkien elves bestow some of their powers to their children, which puts a hard cap on how many children a pair can have. Fëanors family was famous for being rather big. His mother "died" giving birth to him, as it was tiring her out.In general, I can't think of many large families in modern fantasy period, regardless of the actual race. Including human characters. Might be modern writers being influenced by their circumstances.
>>97756099>t. someone who has never read any tolkien
>>97756148>Arda*Aman, excuse me.I can't find that one pic of all the offspring of the House of Finwë, or was it the House of Fëanor? And it's killing me.
I liked the fact that blonde elves went to arda, looked at the noldor and were like: no we aint gonna do that. and actually did nothing>>97756148*used to fuck until they decided fuck time is over (no children during war) for thousands of years
>>97756162>*used to fuck until they decided fuck time is overNo, because they, at some point, physically can't anymore. Since they depart parts of their souls and power to their children.This, of course, only applies to Tolkiens elves.
>>97753793>What are fables>What are fairy stories>What are landscape paintings >What are Pixar and Disney movies some of them with just animals or inanimaxted objects >What are fantasy books with animal protagonist >What is the underdark >What is Drizzt do'urdenNope art doesn't need humans to work. You're just unimaginative and is ok to admit it.
>>97755443Decentralised institutions are stronger and have long term resilience. Centralised institutions like the one you're talking one and dictatorships fall apart in less than a generation.
>>97755952That man attacked with emotion and rage instead of strategy and tact. He does not represent humanity.
>>97755308>>97755707>>97755743would be actually a good pic if not for the giant torso sized tits desu
Human Pride Worldwide
Humans are based. No matter how many freakshitters my players want to play, a minimum of 75% of the non hostile NPCs will be humans. The remaining will all be varieties of elves, dwarves, halflings.
>>97756664Human females like Elf malesHuman males like Elf femalesThe racemixing will continue until morale improves.
>>97756639Would entirely defeat the purpose you silly goose.
>>97753804That is the exact opposite of the common reddit opinion, kid.
>>97756915Can't wait to see Noldorfag spam this sixty trillion times.
Damn, forgot the most important part.
Variety is great but if you can't get invested in a story focused on humans in a fantasy setting there might be something wrong with you.
>>97756978Which is already the vast majority of stories.Yet, you have anons in this thread saying that you can't have stories without humans.
>>97756966Cute, but it doesn't really capture the same intent as the original. The proportions are simply not exaggerated enough to capture that "asshurt crying" spirit.
>>97757046>The proportions are simply not exaggerated enoughYeah, it's exaggerated because it's a caricature. Are you twelve?https://www.kunstplaza.de/en/draw-2/successful-caricatures/
>>97756978>why you don't like even more of the slame slop???!!!!
>>97756978>800x452Damn I know GW1 is old but surely you could've found an image meant for a computer made past 1998?
>>97756871Elves should be the last race to racemix.
humans fucking rule that is why
>>97757333Too bad both of their kids are desperately thirsty for the Warrior of Light's big roemommy futacock
>>97755733>>97755715Stay mad lmao
>>97757770Don't talk to it, you'll make it think it's people.
all non-human races in my settings are retardsexcept dragons at one point, but they turned retarded still
Genocide? These are elves
>>97756897The purpose is to have pretty lady to look at but oversized gross fatbags are not pretty to me. Like half of that size my limit sadly. Or luckily.
>>97753662>100% of the world revolves around humans and undead humansIt's gaming time
>>97757299I'm sorry I didn't feel like doing more than grabbing an image off the Google thumbnails autismo.>>97757006Maybe. But if all that I'm getting is humanity with pointy ears and long lifewriting wise why would it matter? Even Tolkien didn't exactly write unbelievably alien elves. We resonate with them because of our shared traits, not despite them.And if all you're searching for is shallow and vain levels of novelty I don't know if I can take your critiques seriously.
>>97758342>We resonate with them because of our shared traits, not despite themMaybe, but it's also the differences that create fantastical circumstances and allows for plots that wouldn't be possible if they were just humans. This goes especially for the long lifespan. And that's what fantasy is for.Just ignore media with elves as protagonists. Nobody is forcing you. You already have more than enough stories jerking off humans as the based protagonists doing protagonist things.
>>97758448But that's my point in the end anon. These are all effectively just humans to the left, and acting like you have some superior taste is a pointless exercise. If the difference is largely cosmetic I care far far more about the quality of the writing than the checklist of largely superficial traits involved.And that's what most nonhuman focused stories are in the end. Because if there's anything humans are bad at it's imagining things outside of our own experience. The nonhuman, to resonate with us, must also be in the end human deep down in some way.
>>97758580>and acting like you have some superior taste is a pointless exerciseNobody did that, you are getting quite mad over nothing.>If the difference is largely cosmeticNo, if someone lives several centuries and has the psychology for such a long life, then it's not cosmetic. The protagonists being elves should change the story on a fundamental level.>I care far far more about the quality of the writingWe all do. And I have to agree with one thing: they are barely any elf-centric books that are actually good.
>>97753662You just wanted to post elf tits.
>>97753662it should be 99% elf girls and revolve around a human (me)
>titty elvesI prefer booty elves.
>>97761703Based.>>97761767Friend, you forgot to bump the thread. Here, let me help you.
>>97757292if you can't make compelling or interesting characters without putting pointy ears on them, then that says more about your ability as a storyteller than any fantasy race
>>97755733>It's just pornbrain touristsUnless you want literal ghosts of human ancestors under the orders of gods, the other branch of elves were bastards, kidnappers, murderers and rapists so the coomers do it better than you.
>>97755733>tfw elf anon is just a dfc lover angry at cowtitsHere is art of the kind you prefer
>more dishonest arguments completely missing the point
>>97763257Who?
>>97753793Femoid behavior.
>>97761703
>>97758727>iFunnyYou don't belong here.
>>97763915He's crying about tits, no shit he doesn't belong here.
>>97753662The world is ruled by a human supremacist organization that controls fate to ensure humans stay on top.
>>97756920No. Redditoids are unable to think outside of their own downtown LA therapy hug box when writing.
>>97764469Redditard deflection
>>97753662Humans have surprisingly limited imaginations.
>>97753909>Though it is more about invasion and refusal to assimilateAnd every Euro muslim that blocks traffic praying in the streets rather than a mosque proves me right.
>>97763915Read the filename, my friend
>>97756978Game time isn't for stories.When I want stories, I have comics, films, novels, and shows for that. Or I can always take a peek at >>>/qst/, since that shit isn't allowed here any more.
>>97756978>I know you want novel fantasy stuff but lets make this about humans again.Bo-ring.Next thing you're going to say is >"well if you can't have a character be interesting without putting pointy ears on them, then that's your failure as a person, a well done human is always more interesting".Another boring answer, and a boring misunderstanding of the initial premise of the whole idea.Humans in 99% of fantasy are the boring 'plain' faction/species that just ape historical period stuff and read like they're written by an AI summary of 15th century europa.Base the setting around any other race.Make the writers actually have to work their brain meat for once.
>>97753662Traditional games?
>>97755325I have a not elven race in muh setting that became immortal and solved the ambition issue by putting an arbitrary cap on most job fields. After they spend 70 years in a given field, they're sequestered from practicing in that field for 50 years with legal penalties for defying this. The exceptions are the arts, agriculture, transportation/unskilled labor, and the self-employed. Military, law enforcement and political positions are considered part of the same field, though military folk can be reactivated early in an emergency. They also often just become mercenaries, as this counts as being self-employed. This is all intended to clear out old positions to make way for the young, and give the old opportunity to relearn and refine their mastery over their profession, or give them reason to seek out something new to aspire in.
>>97768165>Base the setting around any other race.>Make the writers actually have to work their brain meat for once.There is no benefit to that.If humans are not the dominant species of the setting, the only story you can have is humans trying to kill all nonhumans so that they become the dominant species. That is what must always be. All things in any universe must be subservient to man, and if they are not so, all men must live to make it so.
>>97768413/tg/ - Everything But Games
>>97757838>cumbrain incel thinks he can talk down on other peoplekek
>>97753662How can you make sure that your worlds aren’t too anthrocentric then?
>>97771392don't make humans the center of everything
>>97768165We get it you want to fuck elves. Nobody cares.
>>97753662I'm reminded of that one setting i made for D&D where the main story was focussing on the fantasy "Scramble For Africa" Where Imperialist Goblins, Samurai Monkeys, Inudstrialist Vampires and Conquistador Minotaurs were all invading a new continent that appeared that was mostly populated by African inspired Beastfolk (Mostly Rhino's, Elephants, Lions, Hyena's, Giraffes and Crocodiles)
>>97756062Elves are more like immortal big cats, not humans, in attitude.
>>97753662i don't agree. fantasy settings with non humans are unable to differentiate between the races properly and make humans just verbatim earthlings and everyone else some kind of special unique human and that is incredibly boring
>>97753662Non-Humans are inherently uninteresting for anyone who isn't a child, and trying to focus on them over existing Humans in a setting is just asking for failure. Why should people care about gay hippie elves and perpetually drunk dwarfs when they aren't either of those things?
>>97753662>>97755411>Lord Ashram taps that
>>97778982He's so lucky
>>97753662That's 1% less than the world revolves around humans in real life.
>>97785932>t. lives in the anthropocene
>>97785932>100% of the world revolves around humansOkay, then get lost in the wilderness with just your money. See how well you can talk a wild animal out of mauling you to death or pay them not to eat you.
>>97787281>Literally can't respond without talking about something happening to a humanSo you agree with me, you're just assmad about it lmao.
>>97787716The predators won't see you as human, nor care about your human attachments. You will be considered an intruder or food, like any other intruder or food it encounters.
>>97788866Predators do know what humans are though. They avoid us unless for some other reason (starving, too lame to catch normal prey, encroaching on territory/babies). They do this because most animals know instinctively that its best to avoid us.
>>97771392What a cuck question.
>>97788866The universe acting antagonistically towards the protagonist is still revolving around him. Our place in nature is naturally at the center because we are the thinking beings who perceive it. Same thing with all that yapyap about how the universe is so big and vast and blah blah. The relevance of things is only to be found in their relationship to the observer.It's okay though, I'm willing to break versimilitude in Fantasy by giving Elves and Dwarves or whatever 1%. It's interesting to imagine a universe that was not created EXCLUSIVELY for my race by God, but instead for my race primarily plus a couple of cute sidekick species.
>>97753662When humans are in the setting, they make for an easily comprehensible focal point for telling a story, because they are the most relatable to the people engaging with the material on a base level. Are you so unimaginative that you can't try to view fantasy from the perspective of those like yourself, but in a world unlike ours?
>>97765041Cope>>97769149Dilate
>>97753793>I can't understand anything that doesn't revolve around me because my life as a low IQ single child taught me that I am the center of reality.
>>97798401As opposed to your rainbow humans with pointy ears and wacky features?You're still writing humans. You're just huffing your own farts about it.
