Aqshan smog edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97741086 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questions:What will be the gimicks of the 4-6 different Cogfort? Anti infnatry? Anti monster? Terrain destroyer?
>>97755163We lost /aosg/We just lostFarewell
>>97755168So this guy got fired for the leaks and has a crash out?His shit doesn't make sens within the already confired things
>TQGiven what we know about their names:>immolatorFlamethrower (=anti-horde) variant>cannonadeBig fuck off canon (=anti-monster) variant>conquerorTransport variant>linebreakerMelee variant (picrel)>unknown cogfort nr5Maybe like a wizard tower thing? Magic variant?>unknown cogfort nr6Named commander variant
>>97755173>Melee variant (picrel)It should have big punching glove arms or crab claws insted
>>97755168what is this?
>>97755173I'm pretty sure that the conqueror is the one with the flamethrower according to rumours
>>97755172Honestly I'm pretty sure he ran out of legitimate leaks months ago. Consider that the last really detailed leak (in terms of release order) he gave us was Ogors, which are supposed to releasing in about six months from now. About the upcoming Dwarf/Fyreslayer release he's provided almost no actual details. So he's clearly foggy about anything more than ~6 months out, but conveniently knows a bunch of shit about the next edition, (if you ignore that he's spent the last few weeks flip flopping all over the place over something as simple as the next starter box) including several new human armies that won't be released for several years out?I get being emotional but people need to stop and use their heads at some point.
>>97755181Then what would immolator have?
>>97755179a fake leak that shitposters will milk for months
>>97755179Boole crashed out tonight on tga, looks like we're getting our own dark imperium esque soft reset. See >>97754956>>97755183If it was just boole I'd agree but some of the other dudes like whitefang back me up have also echoed similar sentiments.I wouldn't buy into any of the details just yet, boole clearly is getting too mamy conflicting reports to give trustworthy information at the moment. He'll be back, this is like the 3rd time he's doing some dramatic farewell, but he's too much of an attentionwhore not to just show up again in a week.Anyway I'd wait for the whitefang to comment before jumping to conclusions. Unfortunately he hasn't posted since like november.
>>97755183>About the upcoming Dwarf/Fyreslayer release he's provided almost no actual detailsWhich is weird, because that appears to be sloted for the Hedonite/Lumineth 2e slot and FEC 3e slot, so the releas tied directly to the end of edition campaign.Unless Ogors releas in Spring 2027, but then nothign he says now relates to them either.
>>97755163Does Hammerhal-A Khornecodes itself by accidents or do the liberated grandchildren of people like this just don't know any other aesthetic?
>>97755168What was the original posts?>>97755183He always said his information was from someone else
>>97755222>What was the original posts?Check the previous thread >>97755189
>>97755232They've already hinted at this. The CoS battletome is deleting all but Hammerhal as a Free City, isn't it?
>>97755222>He always said his information was from someone elseThat doesn't change anything. You see it all the time, new leaker pops up with big info, rides high for a while, continues grandstanding long past the point that their legitimate sources all dried up and ultimately are forgotten by everyone.
>>97755237>You see it all the timeName one? Someone like Elarin just leaked the little they knew about Warclans and went back to snippets of obviously store based information like pricing
>>97755236I doubt that. Maybe b tier cities like hallowheart or whatever, but all the realm capitals should be fine>>97755240Not tga but this seems like what happened to the javgoro guy for tow. Got some early leaks right, then obviously lost their in and now just resorts to vagueposting and echoing other rumourmongers
The Nagash faction other than Ossiarchs in the 5e starter rumour from the same source isn't even 1 month old yet. Also the "it's beastmen" fallowed by "oh shit beastmen aren't a faction anymore, i meant Slaanesh" pivot is hilarious
>>97755256>The Nagash faction other than Ossiarchs in the 5e starterthat was an assumption, not a rumor
>>97755258Emphasis on ASS
>cathay for old world >ind for old world>not!cathay for last world >not!nippon for last worldwhat the fuck is going on?
How can someone give any credibility to this faggot leaker? White fang is the only "trustworthy" leaker out there and even him has mistakes sometimes due to James internal problems.Some stupid says a bunch of apocalyptic garbage and forums (and obvious shitposters/grogs) jump out as if this is some gospel from the future, Jesus Christ, the sole idea of rebooting a product as AoS with a well developed customer base and popularity gained over years is pure madness to me.
if aos is rebooted what happens with tow? will they coexist or is nuked too?
>>97755274>rebooted AoS gets all the armies unique to TOW, including ones that haven't even been touched yetThe rumors are bullshit, but there's no world where it happens and TOW still exists.
>>97755277Elaborate. They're separate game systems managed by separate teams with (at least somewhat) separate player bases. Why do you think TOW would go down with the ship if AoS gets rebooted?
>>97755060>This is way too retarded, even for gw.Hey they came out with Mortal Realms after all.
>>97755286Mortal Realms are the basis for AoS universe anon. Maybe you are more confortable with "Not-really-the-Earth" like fantasy but that already failed as you should know.
>>97755179End times is happening in AoS followed by a reboot
>>97755270Whitefang hearted Booles end times 2.0 post. Which is still up. Check it yourself. They are end timesing AoS, I am sorry dude.
>>97755168I bet this is fucking Mannfreds fault somehow.
>>97755264Dunno I was away for 12 hours and apparently it's been nonstop doomposting the whole time, catching up on it is dizzying.
>>97755328Wouldn't even be mad
>>97755168HECKIN NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN BELOVED LEAKARINO NOOOOOO
For anyone who wants to know what people are talking about/melting down over.
>>97755337Cont. This line up with what Rob has been saying, and Whitefang liked/hearted another Boole post earlier where Boole first brought up " The End Times 2.0" for AoS
REMINDER that this boole rumoursloppa has only been right SO FAR and could be wrong at any time. Don't give this slop attention, it's not guaranteed true until it happens
>>97755342That's right Boole was right every time before and so was Whitefang but they are both wrong now along with other rumormongers stories lining up because we don't like the news.
Can Archaon stop winning?
>>97755342He already contradicted himself so he either was wrong before or is now. Not to mention the timeline streach with what Anon said about some of this shit requiering years to make, but apparently sloted for next year, while the only new trademark is still Mosscarin
>>97755337Sad that he basically confirms that GW themselves seems to hold disdain for the AoS setting.
>>97755264>ind for old worldWut? I'd be interested but /wfg/ would explode
I think I am going to try and sell my armies off unless Whitefang specifically comes out and says this is bullshit. I am not going to invest more time and money into a dead setting with a questionable future.
>>97755168>>97755337>>97755338yea nah this is definitely some shit you say right before getting sacked lol
>>97755356you dont own any aos minis thobeit
>>97755318Different whitefang, that's the other one who's also a leaker but not quite the trackrecord main whitefang has.You need a fucking masters in this shit to understand aos rumourmongering these days.
>>97755360>have suspicion who's the bloke leaking everything>give bunch of doomposting falseflag with different details>see what floats to the top>check with the spreadsheet who got which versionthat's like a basic HR fishing procedure
>>97755360>boole and/or their source fell for the obvious bait meant to catch the notorious leaker>someone’s at the unemployment line rn while the rest of the unemployed either doompost or call it stupid
>>97755360I guess Boole, Whitefang and Rob must all have been sacked recently. All those accurate leaks were just a way to build up trust to make AoS players feel bad for a little bit. LMAO
Guys it's ok. AoS as a setting was a flop we can all agree. Some of the miniatures are nice, and before 4th it was a fun game. But the setting, I think we can all agree, was AT BEST mid. A reboot would be best for everyone, bringing some 40kish grimdark into the setting would do wonders for mass appeal. You want a bigger community right?
>>97755374Whitefang didn't say anything
>>97755374did you offload all that unpainted death guard yet, goatfucker?
>>97755378End Times 2.0 comment liked/hearted
>>97755376The setting is better than the lazy slop that was Warhammer fantasy battles. There was a shred of originality in it. Only the most rose tinted retard would argue that the old world wasn't lazy as fuck and ripped off a few different settings and haphazardly mashed them together. They are lucky that in the beginning they weren't sued (probably because the company was still poor as fuck)
>>97755382BASED BASED BASED TOWCHUDS win!!! AoSissies all about to join the 41 percent (most were going to anyway)
>>97755385Not THIS is bait lmao. I get the anger, it's not easy being on the losing side. Where even the IP creator sees that it's time to take AoS out behind the shed and put it out of its misery. I am excited to see what The Last World will look like, if it's more grimdark and like Warhammer Fantasy I might get into it :)
>>97755376>ToWfaggot trying this hardKeep dreaming, grog.
>>97755376sure, but the setting of AoS is still better than WHFB and 40k
>Anon believes in a releas shedule that won't compleat until 2030s while GW only works like 2 years ahead
>>97755393>>97755397*taps sign*
>>97755402No, this is happening next edition. You will get your End Times followed by a soft reboot. The memes about 5th being the last AoS edition were actually accurate. I know it's hard. The first stage of grief is denial. Process it slowly. You will all be ok.
>>97755403>Is Hearthed/Liked>BelieveeeeeOf all the grog excuses to desire AoS downfall over all this years this must be the most pathetic one.
It's funny how quick people will turn on leakers when they don't like the leaks.
>avatarfagging
>>97755420I always shitted on leaker because they have no value
>>97755382Wrong whitefang retard though the real whitefang is also liking comments now, it's joever
It's just the setting that is changing, I don't get the freakout. Noone's models/armies are being invalidated. And the grimdark aesthetic simply sells better.
>>97755420There's leaking and there's leaking stuff that wouldn't even be in pre production atm like the fake nipon shit. The're mid development on the starter right now yet i'm supposed to believe later major releases are already finalized?
>>97755428Fuck.
>>97755431Some people like the setting of AoSdo wonder what this would mean for Soulbound, does C7 have to make another RPG system for this theoretical new AoS setting
>human armies>destruction still forgottenEven with the game ending we can't have new stuff LMAO
Alright I read through everything, but I don't get why this is being compared to the end times, seems more like a 40k 7th edition gathering storm situationI mean of course the towfags are "oh no no no aossisters..."-posting (can't blame them it is kind of funny) but why the fuck are the rest of you so doomer about this?
>Baiters and Shitposters already milking this absurd shit to farm (You)s and tearsI already told this but i suppose Boole job is done now that he is in the unemployed queue...
>>97755446>entire setting is destroyed>not by destruction Can't get a W.
Actual Whitefang liking a comment by another alleged leaker who claims he is proofreading The Last World 1st edition book.Either all the leakers are wrong or AoS is going BYE BYE.
>>97755450>40k 7th edition gathering storm situationWhich ruined 40k so it's something to be concerned about.
>>97755451Im fucking off for a while, this thread is going to be unusable because of those autists
>>97755461And source if anyone wants to see.
>>97755461>Whitefangs liked the twitt says this shit will likeky be canned now like the Thondia stuffNot the own you think it is
>>97755469The guys a proofreader. He doesn’t have any say in what gets cancelled or not. But he did confirm it AND whitefang did like his post. The Last World is real. Sigmar is dead.
>>97755451the real question is how much this will last? this week we have a reveal stream and i wanted to discuss aos instead of surfing through insufferable grog-bullshit...
>>97755473He's saying "my work might be pointless because this will get season of wared"
>>97755480The reveal stream will take precedence, so probably only two more days of shitposting
>>97755480Likea week or two, but counting from. The stream date
>>97755480Make sure to buy up the Cogfort. It probably won’t be making the transition to The Last World so buy it while it’s still available. HAHAHAHHAA
>>97755391If you can see the blatant tolkien and moorcock shit they just stole whole sale, you are just another unread slop pig. Get back to TWW I'm sure you have a other 40 bucks to pay for a legendary lord or some shit
>>97755403Kek this needs to be the new meme for AoS
>>97755464Yeah because of the changes they made, not because they made changes.
>>97755489THIS.Needs to be a huge stink over these leaks to tank the comfort sales, make GW react
I could stomach Boole having a schizo crashout but Whitefang liking that comment basically confirms it in my mind. I can't believe it's over.
>>97755485Then the shitposting will shift over to the CoS stuff and depending on how “woke” it is will alternate between tick tock posting and making fun of non-white male models.
>>97755391>I might get into it :)you never played a GW game and never will, all you have are sloppily painted wfb goats that aren't enough for an army
>>97755461>>97755468The dude explicitly said it's still age of sigmar man.I've gone through the trouble of collecting his screenshots, you guys decide for yourself if he's the real deal. Whitefang (the actual one not back me up) liked post nr 4, giving at least that specific post some credibility, but it seems to be mostly talking about boole shooting his load too early.tldr no end times, yes gathering storm.
>>97755519Nah AoS being on its deathbed and the sands running out will persist until the reveal of The Last World officially. Then some AoS grogs will leave the hobby but will be replaced in greater numbers by grimdark fantasy enjoyers.
>It was a trap by GW to catch the specific leaker and they got himlol, lmao.
does anyone have that short strip of a saurus warrior standing guard on a wall, looking down at elves fucking each other, going "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" and leaving with the temple ships?I want to edit it for aos
>>97755412The end times was a hard reboot thoughbeit. Games that sell get soft ones, like 40k did.
>>97755526wonder if anyone will set fire to their entire army this time
>>97755522Uh yeah, except it's not Age of Sigmar anymore it's The Last World and the setting is physically unrecognizable relative to the Mortal Realms. Storm of Chaos my ass.
>Karl Franz mini outlives AoS
>>97755527Guess they caught Whitefang too. AoS Gods are going BYE BYE and being replaced by more Warhammer Fantasy CHAD Gods.
>>97755480I'm on the contrary. 4th was so bad, I'm down to watch it burn in 5th.Be sure to buy that cuckfort
>>97755537>and the setting is physically unrecognizable relative to the Mortal Realms.from the sounds of it, the mapped parts of the realms are being kept, just becoming the new landmasses of this "last world" it's everywhere else that's getting fucked royally, but we were never going to see that elsewhere anyway, everything always ends up happening on these areas
>>97755546Boole wrote about how the new world will basically just be a rehash of the Warhammer Fantasy world. LRL on their own island in the middle of the ocean, CoS in a fractured Empire type state with the different races at each others throats etc.
>>97755537Genuinely wondering how you can navigate the internet with your level of literacy.>storm of chaos my assAnd you're retarded too boot, of course. Gathering storm, not storm of chaos little fakegrogA bit more lurking to do in /twg/ I think
>>97755540Karl Franz still doesn't exist in TOW, TWW-secondary.
In case anyone needs a TLDR of GW's plans for the future of AoS
>>97755328>>97755335I mean, if they're gonna such shitpost of a setting change anyway, might as well add to Mannfred's meme legend and make it his fault again.
>>97755558his mini technically does to be fairthough I think they maybe retooled it a bit to change some embossing with his name?
Whitefang liked another comment.
>>97755566It's actually over.
>>97755566>>97755570>just over a minute apartreally trying too hard, nigger
>>97755558You can field his model newfag.
>>97755522>progressives>Taal>the god of hitting your wife when the soup is too salty
>>97755555boole is conflating what he's saying with what he's fearing, and he's done that before when he crashed out about tow getting only cathay cathay and more cathay, or similarly saying the cities of sigmar were becoming xenophobic because there weren't stuff for dwarfs and elves, but that's just blowing out of proportions what's already the case or going onI'm not saying hysh won't be an island in the middle of the ocean, I'm saying the map of aqshy we know, and the map of ghyran we know, will stay and become the new "not!europe" just like hysh is becoming the new ulthuan, instead of the maps being scrapped completely and replaced by entirely new maps
>>97755555From what the other poster is saying now, it's both. Like CoS will be built around Hammerhall Aqshy/Ghyra split into two different nations worshiping different gods. So it'll be pieces of the old setting copy pasted into the new one but the intent is obviously to create a map more similar to WHFB. God, GW are such fucking hacks. Killing Sigmar is obviously so that they can mold CoS even more firmly into being Imperium 2.0, including depicting the Sigmar loyalists are deluded, backwards fanatics.
>>97755566Rise of the kingdom of the planet of sigmar
>>97755580which is just a generic general. they even removed the karl franz iconography. tertiary.
I agree with others here that this is all a conspiracy by TOW players to oppress AoS players. AoS players are pure and innocent, and just want to enjoy things, but TOW players are evil and sadistic, and spend all their time conspiring to make AoS players unhappy, because they can't handle the fact that AoS is an objectively better and more successful setting than TOW.The TOW players looked upon the AoS players, and saw how happy and pure-hearted they were, and it infuriated them, so they held a secret meeting where they bribed Boole to spread lies and mischief on these forums in order to spread despair among AoS players. They also bribed Whitefang to “like” posts in order to maximise discord. And they blackmailed Rob the Honest Wargamer into recording videos containing malicious rumours, by threatening to replace his plastic miniatures with Finecast unless he complied.Even now, the agents of TOW infiltrate these forums, trying to corrupt the pure hearts of AoS players. Anyone who says anything critical of AoS is clearly a traitor working for TOW players, and must be rooted out and vanquished in glorious battle.
You're all fucking retarded if you think sigmar won't have a comeback
>>97755601>which is just a generic general.Which you still can built as Karl Franz.Cope harder snowflake
>>97755593Lel chaoswank and the fucking skaven AGAIN>>97755602>resorting to copy pasting TGA comments of all thingsthis is a new low even for shitposters
>>97755608its not Karl Franz though
>>97755601The kit is the same, there are still the bits to build karl franz, they didn't change jack shit, they're just showcasing the kit with the bits that already never had the karl franz stuff on them get off mount stupid
>Karl Franz model outlasted AoSPoetic.
>>97755614>they didn't change jack shitthey did though, tertiary.your coping is delicious.now go back to /twg/
>>97755593Kinda funny and very sad that the studio is still responding to butthurt shitflinging from a decade ago even after all the development leads from back then have been replaced.
>>97755625Grogs won.
>>97755624>now go back to /twg/What's wrong? Don't you want to be inside me?
>>97755593Also it kinda goes without saying, but these changes completely kill any lingering interest I had in picking up the new CoS models GW will be previewing soon. I have zero interest in playing Fantasy Imperial Guard. What they're about to do to Stormcast is no doubt even worse.
>butthurt TOWfag trolls AOS community with le epic second end times XDi wish we could kill anyone who uses reddit
>>97755625maybe the studio is changing things to how they wanted them specifically because the development leads from back then have finally been replaced
>>97755664There's no butthurt, just pure radiant joy.
I would rather kill this insufferable troll grogs... Every single time we have news or shit we have this kind of retards shitting the thread non stop
>>97755624>they did thoughthey didn't, point to the part of the sprue they changed, and stop projecting
>>97755461>hey guys im a new leaker pls beliefwhy does anyone believe this obvious LARP
>ITT
>>97755681No one would if Whitefang wasn't liking comment that confirm it.
>>97755584The fact both of these maps are homages to ancient atlantis depictions when we have literal atlantean sea elves now is extra funny.I wonder how Idoneth would fit into a "world map" that will be mostly contiguous oceans now.
may I humbly ask for a link to the 4th edition slaves to darkness tome?I might take them to this 750pt "tournament" on saturday, probably a sorc lord, 20x chaos warriors and a daemon prince
>>97755614>they didn't change jack shitI've heard conflicting reports on them removing the karl franz crest/relief you can see in the top left there, now I'm actually curious if that's true.
Weird, never got invested in aos fluff because it's fast food tier wwe storyline but I guess it makes sense because so many creatives hopped off aos recently that were around for first few editions. I still have zero faith in the rules not being pure dog shit like 4e so I'm all for a community backed version of 2e or 3e. Just reads the same as many marvel and dc reboots where it's a plea for attention but is sloppy, not well throughout and just a sales tactic.
>>97755662Rumorfags aside, I agree. I’m mildly excited at best for the reveals. If we go Fantasy IG I’d probably shelve the army indefinitely. They were my first army for any Warhammer system, so the sentimental value would outweigh the disappointment. They’re also fantastically basic for teaching new players against in Spearhead.
>>97755698They did not, they removed the Karl Franz crest from the Steam Tank, it's still there on the Karl Franz kit.
>>97755692>mostly contiguous oceans nownot much different to how they are right now, the oceans of a realm are already contiguous and the oceans of different realms are also connected via whirlways
>>97755674If it helps they shit up their own threads as well. Did you take a peek at /wfg/ when the cathay fluff dropped? Made the 40k thread look civilized
>>97755710Nice, you have passed stage 1 of grief and are onto stage 2.
>>97755681Whitefang has basically confirmed it, though it should be noted he's mostly liking all the "This shit is so ass bro" comments.
>>97755698>if that's true.it's not
>>97755713...how is that bargaining?
The Last World is so uncreative and bland. It is exactly the kind of thing that would be created as a joke by an old butthurt WHFB fan that still harbors a hatred of AOSAnd this close to April Fools Day? Surely a coincidence
>>97755713I'm not on any stage of grief whatsoever.
>>97755723>And this close to April Fools Day? Surely a coincidenceIf it was an elaborate troll, Whitefang would come out and say it. Instead he's liking posts saying that "it's not as bad as Boole makes it sound".
What color do you guys suggest I paint the sculpted dirt? Probably gonna do black for the hair and gold or bright yellow on the dress trim.
>>97755723That’s right, multiple leakers including whitefang all hate AoS and have decided to torch their reputations collectively to make AoS fans mad for a bit. This is stage 1 grief (denial)
>>97755728Posted this at the wrong time I'm afraidgreat looking wip though, rock looks crisp
>>97755723Oh please remember when AoS leaked and no one believed it cause it was retarded? Yeah
>>97755728grainite grey
>>97755692I wouldn’t be surprised if my IDK don’t survive both their oceans being drained and then refilled combined with tectonic instability that comes along with smashing 8 worlds together. Especially with how unpopular the faction is.
>>97755730why would GW have two fantasy systems with "world" in the title? normies are already confused by having multiple "warhammers"
>>97755738except there's no reason to do it againthey did the end times > aos transition because fantasy was selling less than the paints and brushes
>>97755738A new Age dawns. The cycle begins once more.
>>97755727>>97755730its not a good april fools prank if everyone immediately knows its an april fools prankwhitefang hasnt posted for like 6 months and he comes back for this?
>>97755748>except there's no reason to do it againYeah just like there were no reason to squat an entire Space Marines range
>>97755748Plenty of reason to do it, even most AoS enjoyers will agree that the lore/setting is the weakest aspect of it all. You think GW isn't aware that most people that learn about the setting think AoS is retarded? This reboot is the best way for them to unfuck the stupid lore/setting while retaining whatever model ranges sell well and dumping failed model ranges with in lore justification. Most AoS players like the models and the game first and foremost. Very few are lore first type people, so making the lore actually good would bring in way more new people than it would lose veterans.
>>97755745Gotta make room for new super creative armies like Brettonia, China and Japan.
>>97755760There is zero chance they will make the lore actually good though. Everything that's been leaked so far indicates they just plan to re-hash WHFB and 40K for the billionth time.
>>97755735Why? Is everyone talking about leaks? I thought the reveals weren’t for a few more days. Thanks for the compliment I really enjoyed painting the rock. >>97755742Okay I see it now. It’s kind of a dark grey right? Like similar to a grey gym class t shirt??
>>97755759>Yeah just like there were no reason to squat an entire Space Marines rangeyes there is, and its very obviousif you cant figure out why games workshop - a company that cares about money - would want people to buy their biggest product line a second time then im afraid youre too retarded for this conversation
>>97755747They're not rebranding aos, it stays age of sigmarit's just that sigmar fucking dies and instead if mortal realms we have this lame ass last world if this is to count as a chaos victory and the varanspire sits at the top of the world, then perhaps the world should be called 8points
>>97755764Which to MBA's is what good lore is, because it's lore that sells well and has mass appeal. Which is what AoS is missing and why they are rebooting the setting. Grimdark sells.
>>97755770>t’s kind of a dark grey right?yeah
>>97755738looking back at how /tg/ reacted to the news as it unfolded is quite hilarious. poor picrel>>97755748If aos was selling like 8th ediiton whfb they'd just kill it outright.What's happening is probably something more similar to 40k at the end of 7th. While that is obviously controversial it's undeniably been a massive financial success for gw.
>>97755772It is being rebranded according to the rumor, it will be called Warhammer: The Last World. No Age of Sigmar because Sigmar is dead hence his age being in the past.
>>97755760>Making the lore goodThey tried with WHFB and they made a huge shit, make everything possible like in the Mortal Realms is actually way better for creative models than make whatever shit this (fake) leakers are talking about.
>>97755777No Whitefang liked a post called "Age of Sigmar: The Last World" so I think they'll keep the branding.
>>97755748Maybe sales aren't that great?The truth is a lot of creatives that were around for the first few editions have left gw so could be that aos is direction less in a creative sense and they've been ripping up future plans for aos since tow came back and they decided to do game exclusive line ranges. We know there were future plans for beastmen that were thrown out, who knows what else was pitched to the dumpster.At any rate this shouldn't surprise people because it's the same company that did end times and culled an entire starters edition worth of sce models. I wouldn't get too attached to anything gw made, not even 40k.
>>97755785Ok but this is actual stage 2 grief (bargaining)
>>97755777>it will be called Warhammer: The Last World>>97755556not like it's called warhammer:41k now either because they technically moved on a few years over there
Where do Kharadron Sky ports go on a static world map? Do they drift or stay in position over a specific location?
>>97755728I suggest you out that bitch on a square base because AoS is COOKED
>>97755792same as they do now, they're not flying because the aos map is dynamic
I wonder why people are panicking about an obvious coordinated april fools joke.
>>97755789I think sales are probably okay, its remained in the top 5 according to ICV2. I think you're second point is spot on though: AoS lore isn't great in general, so after the true believers left those who took over didn't have any passion for it and their love of ToW/WHFB lore (which managed to survive being cancelled since WFRP 4e did gangbusters for example) has pushed them to remake AoS like it.
>>97755792I don't see how it'd be different from what they do now
>>97755792I have bad news Kharabro. You are going BoC way, just like Fyreslayers, DoK, IDK and other unsuccessful armies.
So we've done squares and circles. Warhammer the Last World maybe triangle bases?
I feel bad for all the lexicanum giga-autists who are going to have to change their whole wiki
>>97755813Maybe people will actually read the new lore.
>>97755761Leon Leoncoeur sends his regardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDL7AgLdYQ
Even as the realms are destroyed, the Azyrite Blue Bloods repress the truth that Skaven have infiltrated the Free Cities
Games Workshop stock soaring on news that AoS is being rebooted.
>>97755748I will remind you that WHFB's catastrophic sales from 2007-2014 had nothing to do with the setting. Imagine, if you will, that the people running AoS released two absolutely horrible editions back to back, with the first being quite good on release and then ruined (and I mean fuck-assedly ruined, the 7e daemons of chaos army is still to this day the most overpowered army book GW has ever written and is directly responsible for people giving up on WHFB) and the second being designed from the ground up to exclude new players and make collecting an army extremely aggravating and expensive, all the while models that you were supposed to run in regiments of 30-40 were now being sold in boxes of 10.The death of WHFB, if it was truly brought on by a lack of sales, is the fault of GW and GW alone rather than any flaw in WHFB's setting or fanbase. If anything, the fact that WHFB refused to buy anything when the game was in a shit state should be praise-worthy. Would you buy AoS models if the game was nigh-unplayable for seven years?
>>97755792
>warcry dead>underworlds being prepared for burial>AoS being Old Yellered to make room for new IPGrim
>>97755825>Has nothing to do with the settingNow this is groggy COPIUM
>>97755825we knownobody caresit was a bad product and it got killed, get over it
>>97755834He's not wrong, if the rumors are accurate than Fantasy as a setting will have outlived AoS as a setting. Fantasy was brought back because of the strength/popularity of the setting. Realistically, can you imagine the same thing happening for AoS?
>>97755564The mini with his iconography replaced in an updated mould?
I don't think it's worthwhile trying to come up with explanations as to why GW might be doing this. Because you can't know the reasons why, you will only make up an answer that sounds plausible to someone with an incomplete understanding of something that hasn't actually happened yet. It can be argued over to no end and will likely just make people angry for no reason. Better to simply take a position on whether you agree with the direction or not.
>>97755842>it was a bad product and it got killed,Then why it's going to outlive AoS?
>>97755834It is objective fact that 7th and 8th edition were despised by the vast majority of the playerbase. 8th edition has a healthy playerbase in Europe now after a decade of fan errata and comp whereas 7th is exclusively played using the 6th ed army books. Say what you will about Fantasy's setting, people loved it before 2007 and the setting didn't change when the sales started cratering. The rules were 100% at fault.
>>97755803if it was just boole, but what are the chances that whitefang is also into this? he's been saying that aos was going in an unbelievably weird and baffling direction for a while now
>>97755842It became a bad product due to years of mismanagement. The same could happen to any game. Be wary.
>>97755843fantasy got brought back because of vidya, let's not kid ourselves
why would they rebrand AoS if they're making an AoS animation for secret level this year?
>>97755848It's just an exciting shake up? We've had one every edition, this is bigger because after 10 years they think people are bored. 40k had primaris, primarchs, eldar, etc AoS is just more volatile because it has less attachment. 10 years after 5th they'll revamp it again.
>>97755851WHFB is dead anon, get over itTOW is a greedy corporate cash crab for chinks and furries
>>97755803The word is way overused these days, but this is unironic coping.
>>97755820>Leon Leoncoeurdoesnt exist in TOW, TWW tertiary
>>97755848>Better to simply take a position on whether you agree with the direction or notI say accelerate
>>97755867Hahahahahaha. Fantasy literally outlived AoS despite it being killed to bring AoS into the world.
>>97755864>Why release a video game for models they'll squat a month after it comes out?
>>97755867There's no need to get over it. People were and still are playing WHFB. Tournaments were being held every year and still are even now that TOW exists. For what it's worth, I agree with you about TOW, but WHFB never really died. The people who loved it kept playing it. I should know, I attended a 6th edition tournament as recently as 2022! Since then, it's all been TOW unfortunately, which really just goes to show that GW is, as always, to blame for everything bad in the world.
In other news.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ua2wkuys/perform-khainite-blood-rituals-with-battletome-daughters-of-khaine/
>>97755864what tells you that the animation isn't already in line with the rebranding and that the rebranding is specifically to try and lure new people into this while distancing the new brand from the ill reputation of the old brand?
>setting was good i-i-i swearSEGA did what the tabletop failure of WHFB and James tried to catch all those retarded casuals with ToW stop trying to fool people into believe was rules fault Fantasy died, was shit and always has been.
>>97755884nobody cares about these islamic whores
>>97755863For the sake of argument, yes, TOW exists as a game because people who played a video game fell in love with WHFB's setting. How does this support any other argument besides WHFB's setting not being why the game died? GW made shit rules, the players stopped buying new models. Nothing to do with the setting.
>>97755880>FantasyThe Chinese World is not WHFB, you cretin
>>97755871Don't care, LMAO.Brets will still selling in GW stores when AoS gets it's last release.
AoS had no mass appeal as a setting. That’s why it had to be replaced. The models will transfer over. Stop freaking out. This means more people to play with. This is a good thing.
>>97755884>get to pick specific blessings instead of having to wait for them>but have to actually work for blessings now instead of just being able to wait for themGood.
>>97755891Can you retry that in actual english, rajeesh?
>>97755853>people loved it before 2007outsold by pirates of the spanish main btwhated or not it seems people bought into 7th :)
>>97755899Bretonnia back in Last World?
>>97755891Your game was built off of this supposedly shit game and setting, anon. There are characters in AoS who are directly taken from this supposedly shit game and setting. I don't understand why you people are so hostile to a game the vast majority of you never even played when that very same game is the direct inspiration for 90% of the game you do play.
>>97755899>he admits being a no-model lorelet tertiarykinda sad lol
>>97755899They'll sell Brettonians for AoS after they squat TOW, yes. You seem to not understand the rumors in full yet.
>>97755914>I don't understand why you people are so hostileit's trolls
>>97755899Pathetic groggy you will always be a bitter faggot.
Lot of hostility today here. Let’s try and remember we didn’t make the decisions. And to remain civil. This may be the end of AoS, but it’s not the end of our story.
>>97755916You missed the whole joke, piggy.
>>97755918>defensive projecting
>>97755911I fail to see your point and I dispute the validity of these metrics. Yeah, 4-5 years after the release of 6th edition (the golden child that no-one dares to criticize even though it had many flaws) sales were slow. Again, nothing to do with the setting.
>>97755926>The end of AoS?????????????
>>97755926It's literally not the end of AoS as a setting, a game or a model range though. It's a retarded reset of the lore, which people are rightfully taking offense to.
>>97755937Have you just woken up? Boole and whitefang confirm AoS is being soft squatted/rebooted into a new setting.
>>97755938woah is that a heckin clickbait twitch communist? poggers yoggers i cant wait to zoom over and watch *dabs*
>>97755884>>97755903seems more fun than I expected when they first mentioned the whole "pick 1 hero" thing. Also not "on a 3+..." which is nice
>>97755942The game is still A O S Last World anon, is not the end of this game, just a change of name.
i got worked up but then i realized that nothing really changes for me and lads at the club beyond delaying picking up my own and not borrowing so just wait and see
Unironically the rules shrimplification from 3e to 4e was a LOT more impactful than this Battleworld shit would be judging how my local s scene fell off.
>>97755911>heroclixThis is what "peak whfb" was losing to btw
>>97755967Fantasy is still around, and AoS has a little over a year left. Tick tock :^)
>>97755967LOL.LMAO even.
>>97755971will see you here in this general next year, and the year after, faggot :^)
>>97755978Hey I look forward to the Last World. It sounds like GW management is realizing AoS was a retarded setting and making it more like fantasy appeals to people like me. Maybe I’ll even get into it :)
I just came to the threads after a longish break.Can someone actually list the rumors, please?
>>97755971>anon is too illiterate to understand the leaksMany such cases
>>97755971>leave Karl Franz to me
>>97755967I fail to see how this proves that WHFB's setting was to blame for the poor sales it had leading up to the End Times. Pre-painted superhero figures aren't even the same market as wargaming miniatures. Are you trying to say that the death of WHFB could have been avoided if GW started selling models like that?
So anyway, finished my second spiterev. Feel free to post your models, too :)
>>97755986>>97754956
>>97755999God bless you.
>>97755993>Pre-painted superhero figures aren't even the same market as wargaming miniaturesYeah youre right, theyre not the same. They sell more
>>97755992Karl Franz is being sold today still. And he will still be sold a little over year from now when they get rid of AoS officially.
>>97755986Basically it's just>Sigmar dies>everything gets blown up>but the realms get put back together into one planet>suspiciously a lot of things are placed to be similar to WHFB, like LRL getting moved to an island>Supposedly Brets, Cathay, Nippon all being added>CoS split into two main nations, both with Hammerhalls as their capitals, one that still worships Sigmar and doesn't believe he died, and one that worships Taal and is more "Progressive">New setting is called "The Last World">Yes, it's retarded
>>977559672004-5 was not "peak WHFB". 6th edition, which released in 2000, is loved by many and may have been the peak, but in many ways it also could be pointed to as the beginning of the end. Also 4-5 years after that the release of an edition is a natural point for sales to dip. Come on, if you're going to argue about this at least do it intelligently.
>>97756006>Supposedly Brets, Cathay, Nippon all being addedit would be sooooo funny if they squat TOW
>>97756003Yes, at that time, directly after Heroclix came out, they were hot stuff.Did Heroclix have lasting appeal, anon? Do some research.
>>97755998WIP for a local contest. If you see me at the store the day of, mention this post and I’ll drink a pot of Nuln Oil and tongue-kiss you.
>>97756020He said in the rumours they are all not- versions of those factions. And also that TOW isnt going anywhere.
>>97756020I don't see how they wouldn't, if they're just importing TOW armies wholesale into the new setting. Cathay especially, there's no fucking chance GW will make "new" Cathay models for AoS instead of just repacking the existing kits with round bases.
>>97755998Sat down to painta guy and then changed my mind about the sheme, now i keep trying to crystalie the new colours in my mind
>>97755890GW said it was an AoS animation in a half year report
>>97756032Yeah why would a miniature company make new miniature ranges.
>>97755903Looks like dok got the good tome writer.Sorry sylv bros.If it's any consolation you can probably just skip your tome since the fluff and rules likely won't matter next June.
>>97755884I appreciate the complexity, but my head fucking hurts reading this much text for an army rule
I’m done. 10 years of having to deal with grog bullshit about how AoS is an inferior setting. About how it’s retarded and nothing matters. All to be validated by GW themselves deciding that the setting isn’t worth continuing. I’m done. Fuck GW.
>>97756043ok, and? you think they were going to reveal the rebrand in aos ahead of time in an investor report?
>>97756020>squat TOWWhy would they? It's a prequel to the overall story of the Warhammer Fantasy setting. What I wish is that they'd finally bite the bullet and make AoS into a completely separate setting.
>>97756066you won't be missed
The Old World and The Last World make total sense from a branding POV. It creates a clear continuity and is impossible to confuse.
>>97756068normally with things like that they'd use a generic "age of sigmar universe" in it (although I think legally it's still "warhammer fantasy universe")
>>97756049If it's being leaked now, the timeline for them being added to AoS is very short. They would have had to have started working on AoS versions of Cathay/Bret models years ago, which is obviously bullshit. Either GW is pivoting to allowed shared models again or they're seeing TOW as redundant after pivoting AoS to be more like WHFB.
>>97756087>leaker says not-like versions of existing armies >this means existing armies Bargaining is stage 2 of the process. It’s going to be ok anon.
>>97756087what if he wasn't talking about fully fledged out factions with models, he's talking about humans becoming divided culturally and religiouslyaqshyan stay as we know themghyranites separate and close to sylvaneth become "like bretonnia" instead of color swapped dawnbringershyshian humans are further separated and the closeness to lumineth makes them "like cathay" instead of color swapped dawnbringersulguan humans go by the same drift but with dark elves nearby and become "like nippon" instead of color swapped dawnbringers
>>97756098>TOW is not being squatted Denial is stage 1 of the process, its okay anon
>>97755993You're replying to a few different people here. Anyway, I'm the guy that posted those icv2s and I actually agree with you that the setting was far from whfb's biggest problem, I was mainly taking the piss. I do have to say I think the impact of 7th's shitty rules has been a bit overstated, and I think mainly gw's attitudes towards unit sizes etc in 8th were a far bigger problem, but that was honestly a process that was been going on for a while before 8th and even 7th imo. But even then, those changes to unit sizes didn't come out of nowhere either. I think they were pretty clearly an attempt to squeeze more money out of existing players, since those tended to not buy much newer miniatures, and at the same time whfb was also struggling with new blood, which mostly went into 40k. Why were old players not buying new miniatures? That's a discussion in and of itself, I think one of the root causes was the switch to plastic, which in its early years honestly produced minis of lower quality than the previous metal ones. Aside from that, old players at that time simply would've been around so long that they've basically finished their collection.This brings us back to the setting problem though, because while it obviously wasn't the main issue it did make certain plausible solutions a lot harder. For example, stormcast were imo created purely to be a baby's first warhammer faction; elite, easy to paint (no flesh, big surfaces, ...), etc. Something that whfb was kind of lacking. Secondly I think the plan early on for aos was to rapidfire a bunch of new factions, again something which is a lot harder to do with a more fixed setting like whfb. Not that they couldn't have tried; kislev, cathay, fucking araby, fishpeople, who fucking knows, but I guess they thought a new setting would be easier.Tldr I don't think the setting was to blame but it did compound certain other underlying issues.
>>97756117>AoS is being squatted news leaks>TOW is being squatted I pity you anon. I’m sorry for your loss.
>>97755480thread on quarantine until next week, anon.
>>97756129>AoS is being squatted news leaks>Anon can't read English so just guesses what's happeningClassic
>>97756133This is news of a reboot. This isn’t going away because the cogfort will be revealed. This is the new normal.
>>97756129At Stage 2 I see. 3 is the toughest, so I've heard. Hang in there.
This is some kind of April fools joke?
>>97755168I haven't posted here in a while, who is this guy? The only leakers I'm familiar with are whitefang and whitefang back me up.
>>97756161Some of the details may be wrong, but Whitefang likes seem to indicate it's true, unfortunately. It's also clear that Whitefang thinks the changes are absolute slop that are trying too hard to copy 40K, so...
>>97756165Boole is a weird one. Showed up out of nowhere a while back with very specific and copious leaks that have (mostly) proven true so far. He's been more erratic recently, flip flopping all over the place about the next edition starter enemy but Whitefang is apparently backing up at the least the broad strokes of this leak, so it seems it's true.
>>97756165boole has been our premier rumormonger for a while nowmost recently we got the sylvaneth character and the ossiarch wave from him, also the details of the incoming ogre and cities of sigmar waves
>>97755189meh even on the sub 1% chance this bullshit actually is true >>97754956 it seems fine, too much sky is falling crap. Sounds more like towddlers hyperventing about having their dream of aos getting cancelled finally crushed. From a business standpoint I could even buy the idea james finally figured out having two full ass versions of the same fucking ip with half the same armies shared between them was retarded.
>>97756161In the same way that Smiling Friends' ending was an early April Fool's joke
so no one is going to buy any AoS models from now on which will force GW to address the rumor in a few months, right?
>>97756165The guy who leaked darkwater and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff. Self proclaimed whfb/40k fan, good track record though not perfect. Started schizoposting as of yesterday, if it was just him I'd think he's just lost it but does seem like both whitefangs are also implying similar sentiments.>>97756168Yeah he's back to liking some stuff. Prepare for more CoS Mudcore, looks like if anything they're making aos closer to 40k rather than fantasy in terms of tone.Here's the two posts he liked:>I’ve had some contact with Whitefang, and frankly, it just made me feel even worse. Can we please stop dragging the AOS vs. TOW rivalry into this? The people writing the new Core Book don't even know what WHFB is, let alone 'hating' AOS.>The sheerlevel of sloppiness is beyond imagination. I mean, would a guy who actually loves WHFB write the Empire of Man as a carbon copy of the 40k Imperium in his own fan-fic/OC? I’m feeling very, very pessimistic about the outcome of this so-called 'The Last World'.>Honestly, this all feels like GW chasing the Absolute Grimdarkness of Trench Crusade a bit to me... and I don't really like it. I don't like settings entirely devoid of hope. AoS with heroic Stormcasts sacrificing their sense of self, willing to die countless times to save others is way more inspiring than... whatever it is they are cooking with the Last World.>Especially if they recycle again gods from The World that Was (and will be again ?)
>>97756183I think the most telling thing is that Whitefang has spent the last few hours liking every single post saying that the changes are too 40K Grimderp inspired and it sucks.
>>97756193wrong
>>97756200>whitefang is a based high fantasy jolly cooperation enjoyerAlways rated the lad
>>97756065I figure the complexity might be net neutral since warscrolls were simplified from previous editions.
>>97756201how so?
>>97755501BRAND warhammer is a lot worse than Games Workshop ever was.It's time to be terrified.
damn, guess nobody had the STD tome
>>97756183Yep - sorry but the moment they did End Times + the birth of AoS was super exciting for me.If it happens again, I will be excited again lolEVERYTHING IS POSSIBLEDAKRUG'S FIST ARMY LIST LEGAL AGAIN
Remember to buy the cogfort you’ve got maybe a year plus to get some games in with it. Highly doubt it’s going to make it to the more realistic lower fantasy new setting. Buy it while you can!
>>97756244I wont buy any AoS model until they revealed 5th edition
>>97756183I doesn't sound like the worst thing in the world to me either on paper, but I'm not sure I have faith in gw's current writing team to pull this off, I'm expecting 1st edition tier sloppiness. Which to be fair also ended up giving us a bunch of cool shit (e.g. flesh eaters) but they're going to have to spend another decade cleaning shit up again. Oh and fuck archaon being the one to kill siggy, I'm so tired of muh chaos.But yeah the world itself being on one planet isn't a problem for me, I never much liked the portals and just set all of /mydudes/ in a continent I made up in ghur.>>97756240Check back in a few days when things have calmed down, maybe a bit before adpepticon. I'm sure people have it uh the thread's not exactly stable right now.
>>977562004th was already heading in that direction, plus 40k sells 100x more of course they'll copy it.
>>97756226pigs gonna piggw only addresses model leaks
>>97756244For real.I wish the community would avoid being paypigs and NOT buy the fort until we get answers from GW.But that will never happen Paypiggies MUST paypiggie!!!!
>>97756272Of course the lore will stink, it always does anyway. Primaris was the "worst thing ever" and no one believed they'd do that either but wait a years and no one cares now, so whatever.
>>97756283I'll buy a cogfort if its a good model and I want to paint it, and that's the only metric I ever use.
Reminder don’t blame TOW for this. The people writing the new core book don’t know Fantasy. This is 100% a move to make AoS more like 40k. It’s grimderp.
>>97756240here: https://gofile.io/d/6JJfFn
>>97756244I doubt they would make a giant kit just to retire it only 1 year laterIf these rumors are true and CoS turns into blackpowder Imperium (superstitious and regressive) then the confort will be what the steam tank was in WHFB; they will be wonders from a lost age wich can no longer be replicated but with a limited number still in operation and treated like mobile relics (like titans in 40k)
>>97756296It's weird that people even relate the two because both take up a small slice of the pie compared to 40k. That was always the end metric and even if it reached that level it's a public company so they'll always want more.
>>97756280there are already comments about the leaks on the official AoS social media. GW can't ignore this.
>>97756304New titans are still made in 40k
>>97756315I assume that’s why Boole leaked it now. So that GW would be forced to respond at Adepticon. Boole burned his account and future as Boole to try and help the AoS community and half of them are ready to lynch him calling him a bitter Fantasy fanboy. Demented.
>>97756296Nothing in the rumors suggests the new setting would be "darker".They're just all doom and gloom because of the news and they're somehow conflating that with the mood of the new game (a masterpiece of collective mental gymnastics).I mean ffs it all begins with a fucking Skaven ploy, it's like the plot of a cartoon, none of it seems "grimdark" at all.>but Sigmar is dead!Yeah but nobody truly gives a shit now do they? Maybe the STORMCAST would get more grimdark, which is frankly good because the interesting part of them is being undead revenants doomed to lose their mind.The rest of the setting? Nothing would change in terms of tone.
>>97756323>Boole is trying to pull a Legendsoftotalwarthe age of pivot
>>97756315watch them ignore them
>>97756296>40k soft reset moves things towards nobledark>aos soft reset moves things towards grimdark>>97756304They didn't even squat much in the actual end times aside from brets and kangs, this is a soft reset like 40k's, model will be fine.
>>97756326>archaon kills sigmar>rats devour the realms >Nothing in the rumors suggests the new setting would be "darker".
>>97756333It would be so funny if they responded with the usual “ Keep your eyes on Warhammer Community! “
>grimdark stormcast sell well>gw doubles down on grimdark stormcastwow
>>97756335>40k soft reset moves things towards nobledarkyeah that would track with modern GW 8th ed onwards rebranding it from fascist satire to fascist propaganda.
>>9775634940k hasn’t been satire for literally decades and the Imperium is the opposite of a centralized fascist state.
>>97756339That's exactly what I said.
>>97756353>empire glasses your whole planet if you dont pay the tithe>not a centralized fascist stateok
>>97756344Inb4 they start handing out pamphlets again
>>97756362Ah yes, the famous tithes of fascist government. You can just admit you’re a retard who uses the term fascist broadly for anything you don’t like.
>>97756348I was so excited for ruination stormcast to be sigmars monsters... and they're just spicy stormcast
>>97756335>model will be fineexcept the ones leftover from whfb and the end times
Maybe ToW is not responsible for this specifically but still should burn in hell
>>97756363The same pamphlet but red with a black eight pointed star
>>97756365>kill you if you dont follow their arbitrary rules>not fascistok, brainlet.
>>97756377So you’re literally using it as a term to describe things you don’t like lmao.
>>97756319You get my point, the machines will be treated like they are in 40k : ancient, rare and not completely understood by their users So I don't think the coming kit will be squatted for the next version of the setting
I have a feeling this "reboot" if it is true will be closer to 8th ed 40k
>>97756372Why? Elaborate.
>>97756389why are you digging your grave deeper and deeper?
It might be the fault of fantasy but it’s probably the fault of 40k more so. The people who made AoS and cared about it have all left their positions. They were replaced by outsiders, who probably had a more fond outlook on fantasy and especially 40k. So they want to make AoS more like those settings. And it’s probably an easy sell to the suits as well.
>>97756399Because I know you’re going to execute me you fascist!
>>97756400That's basically my thoughts as well. At this point literally everyone who contributed to and gave a shit about AoS is gone, no surprise that they put some 40K hack in charge of the setting and this is the first thing they do.
>>97756300thank you
Does anybody remember the "Nigmos" fake leak before the birth of Age of Sigmar?I LOVED that shit.Fake leaks are so fun when they're elaborate and wild
>>97756362But thats not true
>>97756415This was counterproductive when was made in WHFB and generated a huge backlash that last even nowadays about the company which kind of corpo retard monkey could believe doing it again could lead to positive results this time? The result will end in a huge dumpster fire again.
>>97756429Yeah Boole, Whitefang and Whitefang jr are all wrong about this because we don’t like it!
Lets be honest AoS setting and lore is garbage and makes sense they want to change it
>>97756429>NigmosQrd ?I was in the hobby at that time but I didn't talk a lot on forums so I don't remember it I remember the talks about "Warhammer Bubbbles" though and how much /tg/ seemed to hate the concept at the time
>>97756362>empire
>>97756443>t.towtard
>>97756452It's in the screenshot I posted:the Greenskins of Regalia are divided in castes: at the bottom are the Orcs (labourers) - above them are the Goblins (presumably merchants and diplomats with science fiction technology) and at the top there are Nigmos: tall and slender Greenskin women, who rule over the race as administrators and leaders.They work for the Lizardmen Gods and they live undergrounds as guards of "the undersea", a complex network of waterways that all races use to travel from place to place in the immense planet of Regalia....The reason why the rumor was identified as "fake" is because "NIGMO" is apparently slang for "gay nigger"
>>97756395Thats what all the signs are pointing towards yeah. Only more grimdark instead of less I suppose.
Oh noooooo stormcast may become interesting oh nooooooo how terrible!
>>97756507>interesting>Just taking away everything that made them different from Space Marines
I'm a simple guy. If my queen is in then I'm in. If my queen is out then I'm out.
>>97756512>stormcast were interesting because they were just like space marines but immortalDo you think these things through before you post?
>>97756514Doesn't sound like much is changing from a game/model perspective, it's just the lore changes are retarded. I do look forward to finding out how all the various mortal heroes across different armies conveniently survived the entire mortal realms being destroyed and rebuilt though, with memory of the before times being lost. Kinda ruins them as characters even though GW obviously will want to hang on to most of them.
>>97756507Some fags are actually on the verge of tears - literally grognard-tier behavior.I mean this is AoS, it's not your first rodeo, a little bit of Armageddon never hurt nobody, just relax and let the world end (and be reborn anew)
>>97756526The rumors said that 80% of original AoS character are gone. The ones that aren't don't remember the Mortal Realms.
>>97756519The immortality was at least an interesting angle. The fact they were (often) genuine heroes who could directly interact with their god instead of fanatically believing in a corpse on a throne was also a nice touch. You and I both know that GW will take this opportunity to grimderp Stormcast to levels never before seen in their drive to make them carbon copies of space marines. I fucking hate space marines, btw.
>eternal schizo warriors suddenly ripped from their immortality>presumably still fucked in the head>home realm destroyed>patron god is dead, their purpose unclear>we're left with roving half-mad golden einherjars whose only path left in "life" is to kill chaosVery fromsoft-esqueI'm not necessarily against it
>>97756534>The immortality was at least an interesting angleThe immortality is what made them completely gay. Who cares about their sacrifices/feats on the battlefield if they can't die. And no, I don't care that they forget their favorite coffee order each time they reforge.
>>97756528>The rumors said that 80% of original AoS character are gone. The ones that aren't don't remember the Mortal Realms.There's some contradiction on that point from other leakers, so it's not clear.
>>97756528oh no! They're gone!Like Slaanesh!And Sigvald!And Yarrick!And Arkhan the Black!We'll never see them again!Like Settra!
>>97756519stormcast are interesting because they're "immortal" without that they're just soldiers with better armor. Sigmar doesn't reforge them with new lungs or extra kidneys, they're just magically reanimated soldiers. The fact that they slowly lose their minds as they get respawned is cool. Stuff like Tornus is cool, not everything needs to be 40k hopeless grimderp
>>97756550No, they are uninteresting because they are immortal. Nothing that they do matters if they are immortal. Luckily it seems GW agrees with people like me and not people like you.
Just because something is no longer noblebright it doesn't make it immediately grimdark
>>97756527It's tga what do you expect. That place is one hell of an echo chamber if I've ever seen one.>>97756528Everything with a model is staying, let's be realistic here. Kinda funny though, this is like world-shattering apocalypse number 3 for these people? 4 if you count the really ancient god-tier characters like grungni, kroak, morathi, etc.
>>97756566 Obviously being grimdark does make it grimdark, however.
>>97755893This doesn't even make sense. They have their hair out prominently. It's not clever!
>>97756567It's beyond retarded at this point, yeah. Watch GW blow up AoS again in another 10 years and call the new version the Last Last World.
>>97756541Them slowly turning into husks with no identity is cool, arguably much more of a sacrifice then dying with memories intact. It wasn't incredibly by any means, but the Sigmar's Toll show did a good job showing the horror or having been reanimated hundreds of times and remembering none of it. Also worth pointing out they can and do actually die when they become too far gone, or occasionally snatched up by chaos or Nagash.
>>97756575They are wearing Islamic bathing suits for women
>>97756569what's grimdark about it again?
>>97756579It's a good thing your opinion is in the minority and GW market research clearly realized it.
>>97756592Everything they're doing with CoS and Stormcast in particular is a glaringly obvious attempt to grimderp them up and make them straight copies of the 40K Imperium of Man. If you can't see it, you're blind.
Whitefang liked this post... definitely feels like they're changing the lore for new player retention.
>>97756514you convinced me, i will now crank it to morathi in lieu of pretending that i care about leaker attentionfagging
>>97756579>Also worth pointing out they can and do actually die when they become too far goneI thought this was really really lame honestly. Like what's the downside now? The horror of stormcast is that your soul is eternally stuck raging like a storm, you're not a person anymore just a mad spirit forever coming back with nothing but an echo of your former self. Now you just get sigmar dementia and if you're too far gone the reclusians give you a little syringe to put you down. I feel like if you're going to create an army of immortals you should be stuck with the immortals when they've gone all megaschizo insane.
>>97756615holy fuck nobody gives a shit, fuck off back to /twg/ already
>>97755884Oh good they actually have a role. That’s nice.
>>97756634?This entire thread is basically this post, what do you mean nobody cares.
>>97756610Where is the tolerant half of humanity worshipping Taal in 40k?Where are the traitor Stormcast legions in AoS?Where are Alarielle, Sotek, Grungni, Teclis and all the positive Gods in 40k?Sigmar wasn't the "last beacon of hope" in AoS. Things will go on just fine without him.Also let's face it: neither Nagash or Gorkamorka are as evil as their counterparts in 40k.
>>97756650yeah because you keep samefagging this garbagefuck off
>>97756634>nobody gives a shit about the future of AoSDo you know where you are?
the problem, and i think thing that people are most worried about is GW telling them their models are no longer legal, which GW has done A LOT over the course of age of sigmar, between the destruction of armies like cities coalitions, pheonicium, etc, to other entire armies like beasts of chaos, and segments of armies like old stormcast, often when the models had only been around for a few years or like the beasts had just gotten a brand new book and endless spells and terrain which a lot of people saw as the stamp of safe. then rumors of half the fyreslayers models getting squatted, and now thisi dont blame people for reacting strongly, GW has been like a drunkard husband battering the fanbase around and they keep coming back for more because its all they know
>>97756658trying too hardfuck off back to /twg/
>not BretoniaJust make them order of the furrow but not dogshit like actual bretonians >not Cathay Just make them actual wuxia fighters but not dogshit like Cathay >not nippon I would say go into Shintoism but lumis are basically that so idk. I guess involve onis and lots and lots of gunpowder? I don’t really care for a potential araby or ind in Aos though. Though there is a possible fun plot line of a Indra figure trying to replace sigmar.
>>97756615holy fuck, finally!We're getting a unified map, it's all I ever wanted>but it was so interesting with the realmsno it wasn't, because they were never going to be fleshed out. Games Workshop can barely keep up with one world, let alone eight different (flat) planets with eight different storylines and eight different ecologies and astronomy and creatures and peoples and so forth.Maybe they would've been interesting if another company did it.
>>97756665I'm NTA you schizo
>>97756672Even the Soulbound stuff felt anemic. 8 realms of wackiness sounds a lot cooler on paper than in practice.
>>97756671maybe they can call the new Bretonnia "The Brotherhood" so they get sued by Mantic
>>97756674I am also in posession of multiple devices and know how to >inspect elementfuck off
>>97756677It worked for Planescape as a setting
This will absolutely result in more people being into AoS/The Last World than currently. The lore and setting being so disjointed and non consequential turns a lot of people away. Look at AoS lore videos on youtube, tens of thousands of views AT BEST. People just don't care for the setting. Doing a setting reboot is really wise.
>>97756651>teclis>positive godSidenote but isn't taal like a cunt in fantasy? Think it'd make more sense for alarielle or valaya or whatever to be the tolerant god
>>97756677they each need an equal amount of attention - this concept is a wild impossibility for GW.We can do Aqshy, then Ghyran, then Aqshy, then Ghyran, then Shyish, then Ghur, then Ghyran again, then maybe Aqshy
>>97756685Ah yes, the mainstream hit of Planescape! I've been in the hobby for almost 20 years and have no idea what that is. I have heard of it but don't actually know what it is.
>>97756662If you think people are mad now, wait until they find out most special characters are either squatted or turned into generics or even if they stay have lost any appeal they once had by being forcibly transplanted into what is effectively a completely different setting. Cities is particularly hilarious for this, they literally just released a new BL novel for Tahlia, and will probably show off two new special characters on Wed, all of which will almost certainly be killed off in the reboot. Get excited!
>>97756695It's a D&D setting that WOTC didn't support for twenty years
>>97756690No, he's just the god of the wilds. Modern soigoy consumers view him as an evil intolerant god because he is anti industrialization.
>>97756700could be worse, could be mystara
>>97756690Yeah but Nu-Cities has embraced their xenophobia and can only worship human Gods, soooo
>>97756704At least WOTC won't touch the good settings since they have shit like slavery in them, like Dark Sun
>>97756690I think the idea is that this "taal worshipping part of humanity" is kind of loosey-goosey with religion in general and don't really know what they're worshipping and it doesn't matter much to them - they probably portray Taal as a brave woman of color with "your feelings are valid" tattooed on her forehead(I'm only half joking)
>>97756705The ever queen is literally right there
>Games Workshop deleting comments about 5th edition End Times on their FacebookHoly shit it actually is real
>>97756662Models is the one thing that won't really get impacted by this much. At worst some named characters will become generic ones, like what happened to a lot of fantasy sculpts. But even then I think that will be fairly limited.>>97756699I feel like most characters (with models) are some form of non-mortal where you can relatively easily justify them showing up in the new world/setting/whatever. Cities are going to get cucked majorly though. Aside from that, ogres? Lumineth characters like the twins and the named regent? Not a whole lot of bog standard mortals with models I think.
I have the suspicion that many of these readings of the new setting as "darker" and "more similar to 40k" are because new humans are said to have a strong intolerant side and the r/sigmarxism crowd think that this is a disastrous return to a dark age of infinite ignorance and horror
>>97756705Doesn't really apply to the religiously "tolerant" ones I would hope
>>97756757I wouldn't make much sense for a faction that has Cogforts to worship a Luddite Hunter-Gatherer God
>>97756761it would if their religion is a wishy washy facade.It'd be fun commentary too, imagine if all their leaders are priests but they can't cast prayers because their religion is all surface-level, and they just carry a gun.Old Games Workshop would've done something funny like this
>>97756761Maybe cogforts are their washing machines
this is the end, folks, time to pack the stuff and leave. aos will soon die.
So GW really kills AoS as as setting after killing the gameplay with 4th, huh?
>>97756745LRL are probably safe, they don't worry about aging out and Teclis will most likely do some magic bullshit to protect Hysh. Destruction is...hard to say. GW did not keep any of the old named characters, aiming instead for spiritual reincarnations. Ogors might make it just for being released five minutes before the new edition hits.
People cannot be stupid enough to believe these "leaks" right?
>>97756825They expect one of us in the wreckage brother
>>97756814good idea: let's all go shitpost en masse in /wfg/ for ten years to pass the time
What went so wrong? I don't think sales were as low as Fantasy, why do this move? What's on James mind?
>>97756814Nah, it won't. I fucking the changes and it might kill the setting for me personally, but the game is going to shoulder on from this and probably even become more popular once the setting is dumbed down enough for retards to latch unto.
>>97756828I hope they're real, it all sounds cool
>>97756832What if we rewrite the setting to have more mass appeal. It's that simple. There's no maliciousness. They simply think this will make more money.
>>97756813What even makes someone Amish if you're from Somerset or Iowa?
>>97756832I think genuinely they just wanted to change the setting and nothing else. Age of Sigmar sells plenty but brain damaged Zoomers can't comprehend a multi-planar setting that's not as meme friendly as 40K.
>>97756832the models and the rules will stay, what went wrong is the setting, and they'll fix that with a single map and one page of new lore.A momentous cataclysm that will result in two new pages at the start of the upcoming core book
>>97756832If we go by these retailers, then they simply isn't enough interest in 4e for whatever reason, they mostly blame the focus on match play more than anythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSNw84ohUWw
>>97756847there is nothing to "comprehend" because the plains are treated as islands, they have no transcendent meaning at all.We've been talking about Aqshy for 10 years and nobody fucking knows what the concept of "Aqshy" is, who "Aqshy" is, whether it has a divine connotation, what is its relation with Chaos or Dracothion or the Gods etcetera.Aqshy is a land that is hot, the end.
Archaon beating Sigmar? Sounds like BS. How can you kill a god? Such sweet, intoxicating innocence. Shame on you, /AoS/
>>97756856In that video they also highlight another element though: GW only supports 40k in North America and nothing else.In other words, they know they're not a good indicator for the health of AoS because AoS seems to be a product for the European market.
>>97756890I mean last time Archaon beat him unconscious and left him floating through space until he happened to stumble upon a Space Lizard
>>97756893>they know they're not a good indicator for the health of AoS because AoS seems to be a product for the European market.If that's true then it's incredibly grim going off the largest EU retail third party chain on camera during an interview stating that AoS has been struggling with sales since TOW relaunched.
>>97756831I don't think teegee will be around in a decade, let alone /wfg/>>97756832I think simply gw knows that noone but a handful of hardcore fans like the dudes on tga are into AoS because of the setting, and if they are it's probably more because of individual faction lore rather than the larger world (f anything probably in spite of the latter).They've realised that their ip is actually the main driver behind most of their games, and seek to emulate it in aos.Shrimple really at the end of the day. I don't think this is the drama everyone is making it out to be.
>>97756856>Boole crashout followed by Lords of War shittalk AoS videoTHEY'RE ALSO IN ON THE APRIL FOOLS JOKE!?!?
>>97756903>going off the largest EU retail third party chain on camera during an interview stating that AoS has been strugglingwhen did this happen?I can't doom and I can't gloom if I can't see the video
After they make this update a "End of Times 2.0" I'm convinced the game will lose so many players i don't know if we will ever able to recover. Hopefully is as some anons point a tactic to make the setting more attractive but i can see the backlash from the retcon of so many characters and stablished setting that i doubt it
>>97756918If 4chan is still around /tg/ will still be around, it might just be as slow as /po/ however
>>97756927Dude get a grip. Very few people care about the AoS setting. Look at TGA, the heart of AoS. Half the people are saying they don't care as long as their armies make the jump. Making it appeal to more people is a very smart move. You lose a few aosgrogs but you gain legions of new players. Who will spend more anyways.
>>97756831Nah I'm good, I prefer to actually hobby instead of shitposting in a general about a game that I don't even play.
>>97756927>the backlashthere won't be backlash, the people who cared about the established setting would rather cry than be "toxic"
>>97756965>legions of new playersel oh el
>>97756979WTF? Is this the famous "weep like a woman what you couldn't defend as a man"?
Does anyone have the Blades of Khorne 4th book? I'd like to read it please.
>>97756429>Does anybody remember the "Nigmos" fake leak before the birth of Age of Sigmar?yes, something about the concept of the mill of souls was fun, but what was scaring me shitless was the idea of gw going balls deep into FOMO boxes, as in the models of a release wave existing only for one edition before the next release wave replaces them instead of building one on top of the other
>>97756996Have fun: https://gofile.io/d/ye9JCa
>>97756514if I'm reading within the lines correctly, the restructuring of the realms also means that the gods of the realms stop being capital G godsmeaning morathi will be stripped of her title immediately after having acquired it
>>97757013It wasn't that far off the mark>>97756996I usually search for stuff on Yandex but I'm having trouble finding more recent books
>People are falling for the most obvious AI ChatGPT prompt slop imaginableAoS players really ARE retarded, I guess that's why they play AoS
>>97757044If it was just Boole you could write it off as a crashout. But Boole+Whitefang+Wf jr? Nah it's real.
>>97757044>grogtard shaking in his bootssorry fag, it's 2026, we get a full reboot and you get nothing. MAYBE you can get a chinkoid in december if we feel generous
>>97756514>DoKOut>Fyreslayers Out>Gloomspite gitzOut>Krule&IronjawzOut>IdonethOutSecond purge is coming
Didn't people say 8e 40k was a total reboot when it got leaked?
>>97757063excuse me newfag, >>97756241 THIRD purge
>>97757067Yeah pretty much. GW ended up walking back/retconning a lot of stuff from 8E later IIRC.
>>97757067if they add one blurb I don't like, it's a reboot that nuked the setting.If they add 100 pages of lore I like, it's just the story moving forward following the path that was laid before.
>>97757063Makes me think. This is also a good way for them to kill off remaining WHFB characters so they can reinstate that setting in its full glory, while making the continuation of AoS completely unique in terms of characters.
>>97757063if this is a list of unpopular factions why arent ogors and stormcasts included?
>>97756979Jeez some people take this shit a little too seriously. It's not even a hard reset man, just a soft one.
>>97755337>>97755338"The last World" feels like a April 1st prank.
>>97757094I already threw my 3000 points of Stormcasts in the woodchipper, and I'm writing a note to my family.The moment I see a unified map of the Realms I will pull the trigger, it's too much for me to bear
>>97757092>stormcasts>unpopularAlso ogors are getting a new line and battletome so they don't sound like a product hard to sell
>>97757104naming an entire race "the kruleboyz" already felt like a prank
I think the rumours are legit simply by weight of authority of multiple reputable leakers. But if it’s an April fools joke it’s hilarious. I don’t think it is because destroying your rep to troll the community that fawns over you is nonsensical. But if it’s a troll then bravo.
>>97757063Gloomspite Gitz!!? Why would you kill one of the most charismatic factions of this game faggot?
>>97757117if you don't believe the leaks and you don't engage with the rumors you're robbing yourself of the most fun part of the hobby
>>97757120They’ll just fully go back to Fantasy where they came from and belong
>>97757127As being orc slaves again? I rather see the whole faction dissapear LMAO
>setting is being rebooted?!??>all our lore will be gone As a destruction player, for me this is just a Monday
>>97755911Pirates of the spanish main is not your typical miniatures games. It was marketed to card game players, it came in boosters. It was easy to store and collect. There were lots of collectors buying just to buy.
>>97757113I think kruelboyz ruined 3e for me, they just aren't interesting and I think they lead to this dirt and grime core asthetic we have now
>>97755913According to most trustworthy rumormonger of TGA, yesNous sommes de retour, mon ami
>>97756114kino
>>97756890They are greek like gods that can be beaten and killed, not biblical gods
>>977571473 humanoid factions sounds so fucking stupid when we cant even have a good orruk faction, besides Not!Japan, Not!France, fucking garbage.
>>97757138soft-rebootno retcons, just timeline advancement
>>97757143I just hate the name.It's like calling the Skaven the "Rat-Things" - that's not how humans would call them
>>97757159You forgot getting another version of Not!China as well
>>97757163why would a faction be named for how others call them and not how they call themselves?
>>97756114That's what "Cities of Sigmar" was in the first book, remember the art of the people of the Living City, and the other cities, with all the zany attire?Then the idea was dropped
>>97757163Ironjawz? Bonesplitterz? Gloomspite Gitz?
>>97757063Gloomspite were taken wholesale from original Whfb so they will probably staySame with Daughters of KhaineFyreslayers will probably become ordinary Slayers againNot sure about Idoneth, Kruleboyz and Ironjawz thoughI hope the first two star in some way but I never liked IJ
>>97757109Same with fyreslayers though
Sugmasisters... are we getting End Times?
>>97757173Because that's what's always been the case in Warhammer."Orks" aren't named "Orkz"."Orruk Warclans" aren't named "Orruk Warklanz"."Tyranids" aren't named "grrzlzl" or whatever sound they make."Lizardmen" aren't named "Kaizlat Boq" or "Children of the Old Ones"."Flesh Eater Courts" aren't named "The Glorious cohorts of the Summer King".And again, the Skaven aren't named "Rat-Things".We used to get names from a human perspective.I'd argue from a Sigmarite perspective too, I don't think Abraxia would ever say "I truly am a real Slave to Darkness!"
>>97755913>>97757147Stormkeks btfoGrail Knights chads riseThey were the original noblebright superhuman fantasy warriors after allAnd they were all male and ethnic bretonnians
>>97757193yes, it's a full reboot full of exciting news that will make the setting even better. Alas the Old World gets NOTHING this year.Hopefully they can cope
>>97757193Valrak will just be repeating Boole stuff since he admits he knows fuck all about AoS, and he trusts Boole
>>97757192Rumor is that FS are losing their own battletome and are hetting folded in a new khazalid holds battletome combining all dwarf subtypesSo they're becoming old Whfb Slayers again as I was saying
>>97757187This shit makes no sense, it's still aos just on a single world, it's not tow born again. It's more like they're going ever harder in the 40kification of aos.
>>97757207the old world is likely gonna be on the same life support aeronautica and titanicus were on for a few years before LI came out.I suspect the soft reboot is gonna be to try and capture more of a new playerbase like 8th did for 40k, i.e its just a new edition with a sign that says new game
>>97757197skaven is not a name from a human perspective, it's their own name, and it beats having lizardmen known exclusively as lizardmen instead of having a name of their own
>>97757213NTA but the hashut tome realy made me look forward to more dwarf books
>>97757214>the 40kification of aosaos was the 40kification of fantasy to begin with making the setting smaller is definitely not bringing it in line with 40k
>>97757201>And they were all male and ethnic bretonniansNeither of those qualifiers is trueThe exception to the first one is even in your videogame so you should know her
>>97756840if you met them you wouldn't be questioning it.
here's a real tinfoil hat theory:>no new releases for ToW>soft reboot of AoSyou know why?They're doing it, at last:they're merging the model ranges.Use your Bretonnian knights in AoS, use your Chaos Warriors in Old World.Only AoS gets new releases from now on, but you also use them in Old World.Easy GW win and cost-cutting measure.
Lost all my motivation to paint AoS models
>>97757227>Troggoth>Ogor>Orruk>Grot>Hobgrot>Krule Boyhow can you see these names and not think that one of them stands out?Like, I'm sure the green retards call them "Them Krule Boyz", but I can't get behind a Stormcast general, or Kairos or Teclis or Arkhan (or any other race) using that name.>"Ah yes, there they are, on the horizon, those cruel boys I hear so much about! Let us measure our steel against these foes, the cruel boys!"
>>97757201>False France peasants and richbois riding some dirty horses>superhuman fantasy warriorsGet a load of this fag LOL
>>97757252...why? Was the universe being split in eight chunks really that important for your enjoyment?
>>97757252i think these last rumours did it for me, years trying to defend this game and yet the company will kill it anyways, i guess is time to let it go.
>>97757272>years trying to defend this gameGrim
>>97756032>>97756029The idea of not-Cathay showing up after skipping the entirety of Age of Sigmar is super to me, like where the fuck were you? Did you get lost for literal eons?
>>9775723640kification in tone, not in terms of geography or cosmology.
>>97757258You're mixing the names of races for the names of factionskruleboys are still orruk, humans call them orruks, the name kruleboy is no different than the name ironjaw or the name gloomspite git
>>97757279They were stuck in a mountain, just next to Kragnos.The Dragons buried Kragnos for revenge and the Cathayans simply for fun
>>97757272>here's the new edition guys! Lots of new stuff!>"...wow I can't believe the game is dead...">guys, want to read the new storyline?>"...sometimes I still feel like I can hear their voice..."
>No EstaliaJAAAAAAAAAAAAMES
>>97757279They actually created the secret mortal realm of Yin/Yang and managed to keep it hidden and protected from ruination thanks to the Great Celestial Bastion(tm).
>>97757197You are deliberately not mentioning Bonesplitterz and Ironjawz, which *are* named that way and which are the counterparts to Kruleboyz, unlike Orruk Warclans.
>>97757302Estalian Nigmos will come after Bretonnian Cities of Sigmar and after Cathayan Grimdark Stormcasts
>>97757193I'm not watching fatrak but I'm kind of curious what the 40k normies think of all this stuff. Has it reached reddit yet?
Valrak, aka the CNN of Warhammer news, has reported on it. It must be true.
>>97757265NTA, but I love the cosmology of it, how each realm is drastically different
>>97757316Valrak and Mordian Glory hate Age of Sigmar with a passion because they saw it take away attention from their 40k baby game and get better models for years.Their opinion is the same as any Fantasy Grognard.Every time something bad happens with AoS they're happy and every time something good happens they're silent.
>>97757327just because they're slammed on the same planet, it doesn't mean Aqshy will suddenly become a snowy wonderland and lose its characteristics
>>97757316>>97757336valrak doesn't care about smegmar and for 80% of his videos he would just remind people he doesn't do aos until some of his fans got on his ass too much on his discord only then he started sprinkling some aos stuff here and there
>>97757336After watching the video, he just seems really confused by the entire thing, but he trusts Boole on the rumour end
OFFICIAL WARHAMMER COMMUNITY REPLIED TO VALRAK'S VIDEO>tee hee this kind of move surely made AoS the talk of the town didn't it? :)>tee hee is that a spark of new interest in the product I see? It's kind of crazy how relevant we are! :)It doesn't bode well for deniers
>>97757336valrak isn't even 40k guy, he's very specifically space marine guy
>>97757369there is no 40k without space marines my guy, unlike your faggy xenos faction that can disappear tomorrow and not effect 40k in the slightest
>>97757368I HATE Valrak with passion but more these fucking faggots with this shitty ideas. Corpo suits usually take the worst decisions
>>97757353>valrak doesn't care about smegmarare you sure?>and for 80% of his videos he would just remind people he doesn'tThat's true, he CONSTANTLY and LOUDLY and INSISTENTLY reminds the audience that he doesn't care for Age of Sigmar at all
>>97757265Yes. Them just killing off any world building ans characters that I invested time in ruined my interest in the setting.
>>97757368@gork is this real?
>>97757383It's real
>>977573Baiter fell for the parody account. This is just pathetic
>>97757375you mean turn into heresy?
>>97757377It's a good time to remind everyone if you hate this (and if it turns out to be true) that you should be directing your hatred at Games Workshop. Not grogs, not 40kers, not youtubers, not Old World, not TW: Warhammer, etc etc. But I already see some boot lickers trying to deflect.
>>97757336I was less talking about valrak and more about the guys that watch his videos
>>97757383@mork Maybe
>>97757341being on the same planet is kind of lame though, like now you can just walk to uglu it's like detroit
>>97757391Only as pathetic as my chud fingers fucking up the post!
>>97757398Wow I'm so heckin mad about these vague snippets of 3rd hand anonymous rumors, fuck gw.
>>97757368
>>97757398Understood I instead will direct all my anger towards trench troonsade.
I wish those rumor-mongering trannies hadn't been so negative.If they said "the setting is changing" instead of "the setting is being killed and remade anew" none of the outrage would've happened. And none of the gloating from grogs either
>>97757431>>97757368IT'S OVERI was fooled, the leaks are fake, the eight Realms drifting even further apart in 5th edition
>>97757368>It doesn't bode well for deniersat this point it's not about denying that it's happening but nailing down exactly how much boole blew shit out of proportionsthis guy is new, he has no track record, but he got backed up by whitefang a few times already and seems to be making a very bold claim that he is very much in the know and seeing this shit himself right now
>>97757442just quibbling over language. people will see what they want to see.
>>97757259It was in the lore, fagBret knights who spent years looking for the Lady of the Lake's special cup and get to drink from it would turn into uberchads with auras of pure holiness and lifespans lasting centuriesThis was a far better take on superhuman warriors that Stormcucks or even SM because the guys had to do the quest for the grail to the point of despair in case they didn't find it and still carry onThis was a test of character whoch weeded out unworthy knights
Wait, what's happening what did I miss?
>>97757547Mass AoSissie suicide
>>97757547A reliable rumormonger had a bit of a meltie and after a malfunction started spouting new insane predictions, then he deleted everything and vanished from every map
>>97757547Sell sell sell now! Market is crashing Azyr is falling we are all gonna die!
>>97757547We're getting a soft reboot like 40k did in 8th edition.The realms are being merged unto one plane, siggy fucking dies, cos will become even more mudcoreslopTowtards can't read (as per usual) and think this is the end times come again
>>97757560has anyone tried checking GWs trademark filings?
>>97757547Archaon won. Again
>>97757574No and I'm too stupid to do it.
>>977575792:0 damn, horus really was a bum
>>97757574you go do it faggot.
>>97757579imagine being Tzeentch or Khorne and looking at Abaddon after seeing Archaon work.
>>97757519Nta but grail knights just fucking suck. It bastardizes Arthurian myth in such a fucking lazy way and in the most sauceless way possible. It’s why their books have all been irrecoverably dogshit and attract the most lower caste jeets to it. I don’t care for marines but they are better than grail knights in every ideal. There isn’t even any diversity in their armor/helmets. It’s all just fucking slop.Ah and the peers are a better mythos to draw from than Arthurian shit.
The "SIGMAR LIED" line didn't pull in the audience, so now we're moving to "SIGMAR DIED".
>>97757596AoS isn't a cash cow like 40k is. They can't rock the boat too much.
>>97757579Why is it always chaos? Why can't it be destruction or death. And wtf is Archeon gonna do after he kills Sigmar? His major goal is complete seeing as his first goal, the destruction of the world that was to starve the chaos gods, didn't work. So he thinks Sigmar's death will valdiate him or something.
>>97757569That sounds more than a soft reboot.James must read a lot of Marvel comics
>>97757579>Archaon wins>Game becomes better every timeSo it was true, Chaosfags were right all this time...
>>97757547aos will die anon, this game has less than one year of life, enjoy it while you can
>>97757593I am, can't find any trademark for The last world
Not even GW is incompetent enough to have two games called "The [x] World" come the fuck on you dopesThere's a reason it's called "The Horus Heresy" and not "Warhammer 30,000"
>>97757621you know why you're posting here? Because your general is dead. And because we're getting a full reboot and you're getting nothing.Now I know the future must seem bleak for you, but it's never too late to join the winner's side - have you tried Spearhead?
If the rumors are true and come to pass, I can't say I'm completely shocked. AoS as a wargame has grown over time but it's clearly not at the scale that GW hoped for. Stormcast have proven to be unmarketable protagonists for people beyond tabletop gamers and there's not enough interest in AoS video games so there's no hope for wider growth either. GW might be banking on a rebrand that eliminates Stormcast and makes the setting more recognizable to gamers who only know about Warhammer fantasy from playing Total War or Vermintide.
>>97757611Eh a hard reboot would be something like whfb->(end times)->aos. This feels more in line with whay happened at the end of 7th edition with primaris and the ultramine guy returning etc
>>97757631His general is not dead because he didn't come here from /wfg/, but /twg/
>>97757630the leaks say the name won't change - the Last World is just a name of the planet.In the Old World the name of the planet was "The Fated Place" but nobody even knew or cared.Maybe the name "The Last World" will be used once in the timeline and then never again like it happened for "The Fated Place"
>>97757646he pivoted
>>97757641>about Warhammer fantasy from playing Total War or Vermintide.the issue is that TOW have shown those folks don't buy models
all they had to do was fix the stormcast helmets but noo just blow up the world again pfft.
>>97757641they can't eliminate Stormcasts as a faction because the only way to get a tide of pissed off customers is to invalidate the armies of the designated "big whale spender" faction.They will chug along and finally become "one of the factions". Maybe they'll be less important in the lore but perhaps they'll still be the "whale" faction that gets one million new releases so that marinefag buy them all.
>>97757649how you gonna keep calling it age of sigmar when sigmar is fucking dead, it would most certainly constitute calling the age something else.
>>97757237Repanse didn't drink from the grail and neither did SulimanIn the rpg (2nd ed I believe), it was explicitly stated that the Lady only pick high bretonnian males for the ranks of the grail knightsSo women, peasants and non bretonnians coudln't become grail knights, it wasn't just a social barrier, it was literally ontologically impossible for themAs for the lower ranks of knighthood, women vould only enter them by disguising as menI don't care about the woke lore from TOW with bretonnian women openly becoming knights
>>97757689>high bretonnian maleshigh = highborn
>>97757675neither changing the helmets or simplifying the cosmology will clean aos from the taint of its reputation
>>97757605Hear me out on this one. What if.. We put Sigmar's skeleton on a big throne
>>97757675it's not even the helmets, the problem was always the gold paintjob. Everyone loves the way the Anvils of the Heldenhammer look, or even Hallowed Knights.But instead of making a single special character for a Stormhost other than the Hammers of Sigmar, instead of changing color on the box of one of the starting sets, they redesigned the entire body shape twice and now they killed Sigmar, because for some reason spraying them all black or silver was too hard. They would NOT. RELENT. With the Gold. They needed to be gold. Gold gold gold, all of them, all the time.
>>97757688The same leakers saying that Sigmar is dead say that his name is still on the title.The age of Christianity didn't end at 33 ad after all
>>97757699
>>97757696This, aos will forever be untouchable because they can't go back in time and fix the end times and the mess that followed
>>97757712The difference is sigmar is tangibly a real god in universe
>>97757723I prefer 1e aos to anything fantasy ever did
>>97755337>Horned Rat accepted as 5th godRATFUCKERS ARE GETTING TOO POWERFUL
>>97757699You are now CURSED to be haunted by my bonelawyers
I want Sisters of Sigmar army
>>97757703do both, the mask are the reason people think they're golems.
>>97757726So is Christ.prayinghandsemoji
>>97757729it's the 3rd time people say the rat is finally accepted as the 5th god and it still rings hollow enough that people have to repeat it and say it's totally real this time around
>>97757547Archaon won, Skaven won. Sigmar lied and then died.
>>97757734No you see that's all part of my plan to recreate the Infinite and the divine in AoS with Sigmar and Nagash. It will sell like hot cakes
>>97757368>>97757431Valrak is on GW shitlist. He is anticitizen, persona non grata. GW won't talk to him. He has no NDA with them, he is not receiving models like Pete the Wargamer or Eric. They hate him and wouldn't interact with him.
>>97757646/twg/ is slower than /wfg/ when there's no dlc news (aka 51 weeks a year).>>97757658Lel, maybe you guys ain't so bad
>>97757753if sigmar dies, does nagash get his soul?
>>97757760Nagash may not even exist in The Last World
>>97757679I can't see how Stormcasts can keep carrying on in this rebooted settingif Sigmar is truly dead and all of Azyr is destroyed including the facilities uased to make Stormcasts, then new ones cannot be made and the last who are still alive can't spawn agin after their deaths; meaning that sooner or later they will go extinctIs this GW's way to slowly phase them out of the game ?
>>97757765we got confirmation he is unaffected and rumors of him getting a new model evennagash wins
>>97757723Fucking baller ass cover
>>97757775>rumors of him getting a new model evensource ?
>>97757455>Only Sigmar will die>Realms get condensed back into one worldlmao making a setting by copying MtG's sovlless infinite planes where any story can happen sure was a fucking mistake, huh?
>>97757688Do you think they should change warhammer 40k's name now that they've technically moved on to the next millennium too? Brand identity is important anon.
>>97757696>>97757723These grogs... You mean the reputation of being a better and more succesful product than the Fantasy you miss so much?
>>97757627Loooool AoS is so shit they don't even bother trademarking it anymore Total AoS death confirmed
>>97757789Wait guys. Isn't the merging of the realms mentioned in the 3rd edition Stormcast battletome?
>>97757803Yeah they mentioned it. The seeds have been there for a while
I just want the setting to have hope goddammit is that too much to ask?
sigmar failed to us bros, what we do now?
>>97757803Mandate of azyr
Wait they will divide CoS into Order of Azyr sort of sect following dead Sigmar and Techno Cog enthusiast in reboot? Sounds weird.
so these generals are gonna be ruined for the next while huh, i'll see you guys in a few months to a year. if any of yall are at the west coast open i wish you luck against my list!
>>97757798The reputation of being a rushed confusing mess forced by out of touch higher ups and suits whose grand idea to solve an issue of rules and entry costs was to unceremoniously trash the entire IP, cut corners on art direction, and hamfist marines into it.
>>97757828See you next week.
>>97757803it comes from an older novel first
>>97757831>rule issueAnd setting issue, and models issue, accept the whole game was trash, groggy, that's why got canned.
>>97757831Going to see that shit in the local dump in a yearReplace it with Captain Titus
>>97757844which novel ?
>>97757831GW's retardation is pretty much the only reason why I somewhat believe they might half-squat AOS
>>97757828It'll mellow out over the next two days, then we'll get adepticon. Which will have plenty of spergouts too since tow is not getting anything so half of /wfg/ will be camping here again. After that things will chill once more until the next big reveal/rumourdrop and the cycle continues.
>>97755337>>97755338It sounds like some massive bullshit which means it's true. Honestly, Mortal Realms should have been separate PLANETS or at least continents on the same planet since day 0.I can't say I mind it really. I haven't enjoyed the game since the 2nd edition when we peaked gameplay-wise. Time to rip all this raw text from Wahapedia and brew up an AoS battle Bible. Shame no one cared about the 1st edition enough to do the same.
>>97757298Eh, while the game will go on, it basically dumpsters all lore up to this point. Most of the characters, cities, realms, etc will be tossed in a trashcan and never mentioned again. The comparison to End Times is applicable, not because it's killing the game or the models but because it will kill the setting and start fresh. So for anyone who's spent the last 10 years getting invested in the lore, the books, etc it's all basically going to be gone. It's understandable people have an emotional reaction to that.
realm gates were just another big dumb mistake by the writers, weren't they?
>>97757865Making them separate planets would have made AoS "too sci-fi" for most people
>>97757865>Mortal Realms should have been separate PLANETSAnon you're not going to believe this
>>97757865>Mortal Realms should have been separate PLANETSthey pretty much have always been
>>97757803https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mandate_of_Azyr#:~:text=The%20Mandate%20of%20Azyr%20is,very%20foundations%20of%20the%20Cosmos.>creating a potent barrier capable of keeping the Dark Gods at bay foreverand yet chaos is confirmed to still exist in the new settingSigmar confirmed for total failure
>>97757865don't you like "infinite but not infinite theme park style realms"?
>>97757641They're not getting rid of Stormcast though, they're just making them edgier.
>>97757831>an issue of rules and entry costs was toYeah, we've seen what whfb can do without those constraints. >>97755911 >>97755967
>>97755356Lol I'm hoping more follow you so I can pick up some cheap armies
>>97755337>>97755338Bad enough to make me know they're fakeFunny enough to make me hope they aren't
>>97757870>Most of the characters, cities, realms, etc will be tossed in a trashcan and never mentioned againwhere do people get this idea from when the leaks say the opposite?
>>97755338>5th will have a ton of chaos warriors covered in spikes and chaos monstersOh thank god!
>>97757936For it to be fake you’d have to believe Boole, Whitefang and Whitefang jr are all of a sudden posting and backing total bullshit. It makes sense to me.
>>97757870The current maps will stay as they are, they'll just get merged. Something like picrel as a concept for example.
>>97757880It was already to sci-fi with all this random low-effort crap. Having a limited number of planets connected with magical passages would help in making AoS a refined sword-and-planet setting. >>97757883>>97757885Magical flying discs with fucked up physics and cosmology are not planets. In contrary to popular Ameridumb believes, planets are round. >>97757890No, I hate this with passion.t. guy that read all the Realmgate novels, played the shit out of the 1st edition and still plays it with physical books.
>>97757959where does that masterpiece fit?
how did Shyish work, was it populated by living people and also had all afterlives of all races?How does that work, if you lived in Shyish and you died you found yourself on another place in Shyish and you could walk back to your burial and say hello to your family? Could a living tribe travel to an afterlife and build a city and live there?
>Archaeon negative diffs sigmar off screen and goes on his merry wayWhoever let ADB into the writing room should be publicly flogged
Is a great time to sell your AoS collection and play ToW, the real fantasy game, anons. Change this setting condemned to dissappear for an eternal game.
>>97757975people never could handle the SOUL of Jon Sullivan's maps
>>97757978Yes.
>>97757982Why the fuck would you drop one GW slop system for another? There are dozens better games around.
>>97757982I'll just do the slightly more sensible thing and rebase them all to squares for TOW, I've already done so with my kruleboyz
>>97757982>leave the setting that is being updated, join the setting that is being abandoned!yeah no thanks grandpa, why don't you buy some more chinese miniatures
>>97757942Common sense. The world literally gets destroyed and put back together, why would every rando in the realms survive that? Doubly so because they're going to make it so no one remembers the old realms, which implies a big timeskip and trying as hard as possible not to talk about the old times. Which is also bad for existing characters. No doubt GW will make sure every MODEL is still playable...at first. But a lot of characters are going to be replaced with generic warscrolls. You even have a Whitefang like confirming Tahlia is dead, and if she's a goner so it basically the entire roster of CoS characters. Maaaybe the Litch Bitch manages to survive. Maybe
>>97757969>it would totally be different if they were spheres instead of flatHow? It makes absolutely 0 difference from our pov. Like what suddenly changes for you?
>>97757988>>97757975People itt will look at this and unironically tell you>here are your planets bro
>>97757988My reaction to this bullshit
>>97757975I hope the mortuary factories make it to The Last World
>>97757982>change succesful product for fantasy HH designed for gamers and grogs with literally more than a decade old modelsLOLLMAO even
>>97758005If they settled on setting up finite and well mapped space for every realm instead of going the infinite-but-finite ever-changing way, the setting would be much more coherent and absorbing.
>>97757982>TOW, eternal>all it's armies are getting moved to Nu-Sigmar>LoL, LMAO
>>97757999They've explictedly confirmed that the existing maps will be unchanged though. Doesn't really imply mass destruction to me, though the implied timeskip is another thing. They've been pretty vague over how much time had passed since x or y event so far.
>>97757999>Tahlia dead DO NOT REDEEM JAMES BLOODY BLASTARD
>>97758018I hope the next maps will still have vargulf and terrorgheist minis heads
What is the genuine plan here behind this massive reset? This seems like a gamble not saying AoS is beloved by all but all the 40kers and ToW players will hear is that we got End Timesed again and I highly doubt that will bring a lot of confidence to this new refreshed setting. Who wants to go all in if everything can be reset again?
What's stopping you guys from just playing 2nd edition forever? Why do you need to care about what GW is doing? Fantasy players kept playing 6th after WHFB died. Why can't you do something similar?
>>97758056All models and armies will make it over. At least initially. It’s just the setting that is changing. Which is shockingly intelligent from GW. Normally a company wouldn’t admit their idea was bad and try and fix it, GW is fixing what’s really the biggest problem in AoS. A world with no consequences and hence a setting with no true stakes. In turn this makes pitching it to new people very very hard.
>>97758056The thing is, anon. GW is legitimately a retarded company, so being an awful stupid idea just makes it sound more plausible
>>97757999The leaks say otherwise
>>97758037>If they settled on setting up finite and well mapped space for every realm insteadAnon, once again, you're not going to believe this
>>97757975Unironically where is that from? Like was it a lore blurb or just a map?
>>97758056I think the confidence was already in shambles after pic related anon, don't forget they squatted two whole armies and two years old models.Who could invest in some system that change so much in so little time and has so much retcons? That's why people is saying this is a stupid decision.
>>97758081That only explicitly covers the gods, who I didn't expect to die anyway.
LMAOing at the guys who worked on the Lexicanum for free
>>97758065Because unlike WHFB this product is still alive, anon-kun.
>>97758084>I will keep posting 3e and 4e content when the discussion is about awful decisions from the 1st edition timesYes Anon you are very smart.
>>97758091
>>97758009It's not stuff for lesser minds: you have to think in 3d: these maps were never flat
>>97758101Okay, then consider the question as if it were asked 15-30 years in the future. Will AoS players keep earlier editions of the game alive?
>>97758072That I understood but its losing its characters and lore which seems to be a bit extreme. If I saw 40k or ToW/Necromunda etc do that it would make me steer clear. Cause if they don't give a shit why should I?
>>97758091>Familiar characters won't be going anywhere
>>97758090I don't think you know what retcon means
>>97757975So do the corpses just get up and jump off the cliff themselves?
>>97758109We will see at that time but hopefully.
>>97758090I know I owned both of them.
does gw ever do elaborate april fools jokes or is this going to be an actual change?
>>97758113Sounds reassuring at first glance, but notice that it doesn't say "all characters are staying" It says "familiar characters will remain" and "models will remain" and hopes that pacifies you.
>>97758120They have to go through the corpse cycle first
Man I'm sure glad I'm not really at all invested in AOS as a setting and only care for the models. Because if this shit is true it's gonna suck ass. The only book I've read is Castle of Blood and that shit was awful
>>97758109I hope so, because I already downloaded all 1st edition battletomes and I'm trying to convince my friends to play the Realmgate Wars
>>97758090I'm still so bitter about this... BoC was a great army and Bonesplitterz had so much potential for a true orc army... Fuck GW man, I can't understand this company at all...
Polishing off a delicious sunset sarsaparilla while taking in AoS tears. What a great start to the week!
>>97758124Stop with denial phase and accept what is happening, fag.
>>97758128I mean, we have a hint that says most characters are staying and zero hints that say that there will be a mass die-offwe can assume they're killing off a bunch of characters but that's no longer in the leaks, that's just speculation
>>97758105It's crazy to me how good early AoS novels were in building and describing the worlds but maps failed so miserably no one even bothered to grab any of the books. Realmgate series was kino and I will die on this hill.>>977581091st edition was whacky but fun, 2nd edition was genuinely a good wargame. I wish them best. 3e and 4e can rot and burn, I don't care.
>>97758134Same. I read the Gloomspite novel, few short stories, and a little battletome lore but that's it. The focused stuff was decent but when you zoom out to see the whole setting then yeah, it's not great. I feel for all the anons who love it though. They're about to get shafted hard no matter how this goes down. Lorechads NEVER forget how it feels when they get burned by reboots and retcons.
>>97757982I think I would just stick to opr or literally uno before I pick up the old world. Old world is its own mess that I don’t care to unravel.
>>97758180I keep hearing about these legendary lore nerds who loved the discworlds planes and will be disappointed, but I must say I've never met one
>>97758151I'm just going with my own intuition here, if I'm wrong I'll admit it but with the way things are going I'm not seeing mass character preservation being a thing.
>>97758134Same. I love a lot of AoS models; I buy 'em all the time. My favorite AoS-exclusive model is probably the Mindstealer Sphiranx. But I don't use them to play AoS.
>>97758144Immensely troon coded post
>>97758180I've heard some good things about the Hollow King books. I have a bunch of audiobooks from old humble bundles I haven't listened to that I probably should. I wish they would do another one so I could expend my audiobook collection.
Now that explains why GW didn't even bother with any kind of celebration in 2025. Some higher-ups at GW really hate AoS. The ritual of humiliation they pulled on us lasted not months but years.
>>97758202No you’ve misunderstood me. I’m not a troon I don’t play AoS. I am here to laugh at your misfortune.
>>97758216Nta but he's right, it reads exactly like something a r/sigmarxist would type while reading custodes seethe posts or something. Consider this a learning experience
>>97758216>I’m not a troonThe sunset sarsaparilla and contrarianism say otherwise, faggot
>>97758216your hand doesn't look fully male
>>97758201Da fuck? Then what you do with them?
Finally I will know what to think of all this
>>97758216>I'm not a troonThat picture says otherwise, fag, time to chop dick
>>97758233>something a r/sigmarxist would typewouldn't they instead lament the death of AoS as we know it like TGA do right now ?
>>97758242NTA but I paint purely for the joy of it and to make nice things to put on display. Maybe I'll bother to make an army list someday and try the game, but not any time soon and certainly not in this dogshit edition.
>>97755337>>97755338This sounds really good though. AoS is at its best when it is grimdark
>>97758216 This guy >>97758233 kinda put it well. You’re likely going to suck start a shotgun soon. >>97758242There are some skirmish games I use my models for when I’m not playing Warcry or Aos. Mostly /awg/ stuff. I guess they could be used for RPGs or dioramas too.
>>97758136they were both unpopular dogshit is why. >600 doomposts because some schizoid says the series is endingYeah I'll be back next week when things calm down and the total war secondaries fuck off. like seriously >>97758081 imagine thinking fucking Sigmar is going to die in Age of Sigmar. you people are so easily baited it's insane
>>97758249Nobody hates AOS more than a sigmarxist
>>97758233>>97758234>>97758241>>97758248>>97758260I can assure you all I am not a troon of any kind nor do I support them or even the LGBT movement. Anyways, let's get back to discussing the squatting of AoS and the kino oncoming of Warhammer: The Last World
>>97758280Do you own space wolves by any chance?
>>97758268>Boole is wrong>Whitefang is wrong>Whitefang jr is wrongHow quickly the crowd turns when reality no longer suits them. The mob is fickle.
>>97758280The fact that you need to assert your sexuality so much means you have questioned it. I fear for your balls.
>3.6k views>7 commentsGW committed genocide in the comments
>>97757767I expect something like they can't make new ones but can still reforge the current ones to reinforce the whole hollowing thing.
>>97758280>Troon gets clocked>Immediately deflects
>>97758268>imagine thinking fucking Sigmar is going to die in Age of Sigmar.We have been trained by GW to consider the most retarded outcome as the most probable
>>97758216I am having a much better laugh seeing you tourists come here just to seethe lmao, fantastic use of your time
>>97758328I’m not seething friend. I am basking. Like a lizard basks in the sun.
>>97758242I play TOW with them!
>>97758350That's honestly even more pathetic.
>>97758350Cringe....
>>97758350>I’m not seethingyes you are, you came here just to shitpost about an unconfirmed leak
>>97758291>tg is one personUnder practically every rumour getting posted here for thr past 6 months you'll almost always get like 3 guys going "OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE I LOVE RUMOURS" like clockwork. There's been plenty of people being skeptical. I'm not one of them to be clear, track records too good to just ignore.
>>97758352we know you do pervert.
AoS led to bullshit like this, it will not be mourned.
>>97758056>What is the genuine plan here behind this massive reset?Make it more palatable to newcomersYes, people are still THAT confused by the concept of flat planetsAnd people will get into aos from either 40k or total war, meaning they will react more positively from something more familiar in terms of how the factions interact and how present, powerful and active gods arePlus, once everything is said and done, the first thing people will get told about aos will no longer be that it's a weird clusterfuck that killed fantasy, but that it's no longer the clusterfuck it was known as at its launch, this rectification, regardless of its actual quality, will be the most renown part of the setting
>>97758383it can't be mourned because it won't die at all.
Excellent use of free will in this thread.
>>97758386>And people will get into aos from either 40k or total war>total warJust like they got into TOW, right? :^)
>>97758392No game that's still played is dead.
>>97758394I think taking a victory lap is fine after a decade plus of coping and seething about how actually the lore and setting is fine and makes sense if you just read 50 novels. This is GW basically siding with the people who said AoS as a setting was retarded from the beginning.
>>97758415>GW dumbs the setting down so that it's comprehensible for retards>This is a huge win for retards everywhere
This shit is fake right? Like I get that some ‘respectable’ leakers are backing this but theres no way in hell this is real right. This has to be some bait GW made and spread internally to catch leakers or some shit.
>>97758386At the end of the day it's as shrimple as this. People get filtered hard by the realms despite them being simple as fuck. There's several people in this very thread failing to grasp them. There's a thread up in the catalogue, something about cultural relevancy, and you can see multiple people talking about not being able to get into aos because of mutiple dimensional planes and stuff like that. Gw wants to entice the tards that got filtered. I think this is about as likely to work as getting more women to play by making more female models, but we'll see.
>>9775842385% fake, since we are about a week from april fool.
>>97758422You can't dumb this shit down further, you gotta start over.When a death star was shot with a timecannon to do a campaign reset everything was unsalvageable.
>>97758415It could have been good, but it never was.It's like they built a boat and then wanted to organise a big journey through a desert, or how they bought a train and then wanted to organise a big journey across the ocean....There were enough elements to build a good narrative, they just went in completely different directions and never used the setting properly.The closest they ever got was the Necroquake.2nd edition was a golden age of people trying to understand the Realms and make them work.Then we started talking about Kragnos and Kruleboyz and the Realms went back to being a nothing background.
>>97758423Confirmed by Whitefang, and as of now confirmed by Rob the Honest Wargamer who heard identical rumors from a different source.
>Sigmar transitions and joins the 41% You can't make this shit up, what woke brainrot
Rob, the dishonest wargamer: "I knew all this, I just didn't disclose that until someone else did. Here's me reading what other people have leaked but be aware I did know about this, I just don't have anything else to add!"
>>97758461>I-I totally knew this!really scraping the bottom of the barrel I see
>>97758461which means he's betting on it being true and putting his reputation on the line.And his reputation is his livelihood.
>>97758471And if its fake (it will be) then we can all laugh at him
>>97758461this years "they're souping ogres and gargants".
It sounds like they're about to make AoS decent, why would anyone be upset about this?
how many of the whfb models will aos shed off with this reboot?
>>97758492They'll remove the double turn and that's a bridge too far for some people.
What are some of the better books in AOS? Preferably non-Stormcast as I couldn't care less about them as a faction.
>>97758489Or refreshing ghouls and horrors
>>97758500>They'll remove the double turn and that's a bridge too far for some people.Lmao, this made the game almost unplayable and I have never met anyone who likes it. People fr mad at this?
>>97758492tww secondaries and fakegrogs always flock in here at times like these, it can't be helped
>>97758501I never read them but sooner or later I'll read everything involving Nagash and the Mortarchs because I've heard they're not bad and I always loved the old Bone Boy
>>97758496They’re actually taking more legacy models moving forward from tow. They might even steal cashtor from 40k.>>97758501Prince maesa, anything involving Warcry.
>>97758492Beats me, they're fixing everything I've ever wanted with the setting
>hate the new blood hags>still want to have the army book and the kit for the sake of collection>but they're just so bland though, are they really worth the $120+ it'll cost?Maybe just the one. Like how I got the one Warcry box of Lumineth to realize that yeah no I was right the figures were terrible.
>>97758511>tww secondariesIf the rumor is more true than not, it sounds like they're about to make AoS a lot more like the old world, why would they be mad? >>97758522yeah it sounds like they're just doing Old World 2. I'm sure there will be a lot of dumb shit but it whatever comes was always going to be pozzed, at least it will be grounded.
I can picture how this shit will turn out>People at GW make AoS >generational change>New people at GW decide that mortal realms are cringe and WH would be better as a single world setting>generational change>New people at GW who have nostalgia for old AoS decide that singular world is cringe and WH would be better splitting back to pieces>generational change>repeat ad nauseam
>>97758530>hate them>still want themAnon please listen to yourself
>>97758543I already said this but they should have done a cycle:- the Age of Chaos (at the end Archaon wins)- the Age of Sigmar (at the end Sigmar wins)- the Age of Destruction (at the end Gorkamorka wins)- the Age of Death (at the end Nagash wins)and then you cycle around."how do we break the cycle" becomes a big narrative point and you can cycle back to past worlds as the timeline resets explaining all sorts of characters returning or vanishing
>>97758559He got filtered already, anyway.
AoS will end and Destruction never got focus or a great release besides goblinos. GW are a bunch of faggots.
>>97758571They got the biggest fuck up in the whole game: the release of Kragnos, a reworked beastmen model turned God of the Greenskins. Also kruleboyz
>>97758571when hammergord broke apart at excelsis is when aos took a nosedive and never recovered in the good timeline orcs would have reached azyr and punched sigmar in the face
>>97758559True, but I still want to give them a fair shot due to that anon sharing the idea of sheer fabric. But for the price I might be better off with just two witch elf boxes.
>Nippon>cathay I could care if it meant Joseon got a highlight which is the peak of Asian asthetics, but I can’t care unless they actually pull the wuxia appeal of China off in its second retention.
>>97758530if you're lucky they will be made a miniature of the month
It used to be a pretty popular sentiment here that the setting would be better if they just merged all of the realms into 1 coherent world, so that locations and territory made sense and was easier to just chuck out a world map and know as a player where your faction is and who their neighbors are etc
>>97758583>Kruleif you wanted to give that anon the reason you made a very fair point.krule were garbage and the fact they cock-blocked orc releases behind them was one of the worst aos mistakes.
>>97758600They exist in TOW, they are called Khosun
>>97758608not true, I've been repeating that opinion in this general for years and every single time I get people replying that "being divided in plains is what makes it unique and amazing, it's just like Discworlds" every time
>>97758600If the Perrys made their Joseon range in plastic instead of "minor faction's specific napoleonic unit" they'd make so much bank.
>>97758608This is fake news. They will destroy what made AoS unique and different from any other fantasy setting: The Realms. The problem wasn't the universe was the lack of development and cohesive explanations.
>>97758614let's face it: they never had ANY idea what to do with the Greenskins in Age of Sigmar.The only success was Gloomspite because they were Night Goblins and that's amazing.And even then they had this weird Spiderfang part and then the Sun Grots part attached that didn't make any sense.For some fucking reason they couldn't find one single person who could come up with any idea for greenskins.
>release a bunch of human mortal special characters >immediately crasch and burn the setting again
>>97758636that's true they never had a single idea of what to do but in this general over the years I have read great ideas for what to do with Ironjawz and the deceased Bonesplitterz shame what they took was the worst possible choice.
>>97758608>It used to be a pretty popular sentiment hereno, it wasn't, it was a recurrent thing from people who get jack shit and that would be routinely mocked
>>97758631Listen, if they were shit at writing narratives for the realms, and if they had no clue what to do with the realms, and if there was never any hope they'd figure out how to tell a story with the realms, what the hell is the point of keeping the realms?>they're so interesting thoughthey never were! Maybe in some other setting they were interesting, not in Age of Sigmar.They had no personality, they were just "a place with a lot of fire" and "a place with a lot of beasts".At the end of the day EVERY FACTION is in EVERY REALM and everything is in every realm and nothing was unique to a Realm and we NEVER got a full map with a proper description for Ulgu
>>97758636>For some fucking reason they couldn't find one single person who could come up with any idea for greenskins.What if we make them big green thugs... and they like war a lot?
>>97758447Sigmar isn't transitioning he's getting crushed like a child by the EverCHAD
>>97758530Read back what your wrote, you have some kind of consumer delusion.
>>97758671no, we need to come up with a gimmick, and a theme, and a reason why they're super fearsome, God forbid they're just green cavemen who live in tents and wage war, that's too simple!If we can't add Gukkrar the Archer of Gork who lives inside a Volcano and rides rock golems with his Rock Riderz what's the point? We can't just do "greenskins" right?What do you want, simplicity? Are you insane or something?
>>97758515I do love Death. I'm waiting for the day when a Wight King gets his own story. Since they're more independent than they were in Fantasy I figured there would be an important Wight character by now.
>>97755163Soon
>>97758669>They had no personality, they were just "a place with a lot of fire" and "a place with a lot of beasts".There was like one short story set in ghur and once in a while the characters would use beat or hunt related idioms, I remember something along the lines of "the night had the hysh in its claws" to denote nightfall, it was soulful as fuck. I don't know who wrote it but I wish we saw more of that kind of stuff.I mean presumably the realms will still exist just as basically continents. I wonder how the day/night cycle will work now, as well as the stars since azyr will either be blown up or part of the planet itself, not to mention hysh and ulgu.
>>97758496Probably all of them. I would imagine most of the characters too so that GW can turn TOW back into Fantasy proper. This reboot makes a lot of sense in the wider brand picture. They can strengthen AoS and TOW by making the right choices going forward.
>>97758722>Sigmar dies>Mortal Realms get Battleworld'd>Settra comes out of fucking nowhereI would laugh.
>>97758669At least read the fucking 4e rule book before you write any bullshit like this, fucking lorelet.
>>97758750Settra is a main character in TOW, one of the AJ is literally named after him.
>>97758736I just don't understand what the direction of Last World would be.It used to be "we get crazier zanier more exaggerated stuff than Old World", but now? What's the plan?The only thing I can think of is sharing model ranges.Otherwise if things get "more grounded" and "less crazy" what makes our dwarf soup different from their dwarf soup?
>>97755556>Gathering storm, not storm of chaos little fakegrogNTA but Gathering Storm didn't do half as much as this. Neither did Storm of Chaos given how Valten was a newly introduced character and Archaon ended up beat by Grimgor. Guilliman's return and the Great Rift didn't cause this level of change. Ynnari ended up a wet fart. Even Primaris are Space Marine +1 noted by Custodes to be not even close to on their level so certainly not a Space Marine +2. Stuff like Sigmarines no longer rezzing would be like if Necrons couldn't reanimate anymore or if Chaos Daemons died for good more often.
Predict which factions survive the end times 2 unscathed, which ones change significantly and which are squatted.Safe:LuminethSeraphonSoulblightNighthauntFECWarclansGitsAll of chaosChanged:StormcastSylvanethDoKOBRCitiesOgresSquat:FyreslayersIDKKOSons
>>97758765no, I'm not reading your squatted book, you learn my fucking lore: there should have been one world from the beginning and GW is on my side
>>97758770AoS will get a dwarf soup. TOW/Fantasy will just have Dwarfs as they always were. It was never a soup faction, only if you view it through the AoS microfaction lens.
>>97758766>named after him>not even on the cover
>>97755899>Brets will still sellingThe last time that happened I don't even remember. They had no playerbase where I was around.
>>97758770>The only thing I can think of is sharing model ranges.Not happening, look here >>97755338 part of Boole's rumor is that AoS will be getting it's own similar but seperate not-Cathay range after the reboot
>>97758793He is on the cover, just in the background, to the left
>>97758510yeah its the what sweats use to pump their self esteem for this game.
>>97758777On a meta level 40k going from a backdrop/setting to a "moving narrative" is pretty damn significant, probably even more so than "the realms are now in one place" imo
>>97758787Safe:LuminethSeraphonSoulblightFECAll of chaosChanged:StormcastSylvanethDoKOBRCitiesOgresNighthauntWarclansGits Squat:FyreslayersIDKKOSonsPretty close to yours but there's no way Orcs and Goblins don't get dramatically changed.
>>97758530There's way too much crying over that kit, paint it like a shirt and pants instead of black body suit. There problem solved.
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>>97758543Well the x-men change every 10 years or so big deal, last time they pissed me off enough to stop reading it someone competent just came along and fixed it, all media is cyclical. Except for star trek, that shits dead.
>>97758797I read that differently from you:not a "separate model range", but the same model range to play not-Cathay in AoS TLW.Everything else makes sense through this lens:you play not-Bretonnia with Bretonnian models, you play not-Cathay with Cathayan models, and finally the not-Empire with Empire models.All ranges get a refresh and they're dual for AoS+Old World, a complete change from the past
>>97758787>>97758812>changed-fyreslayers (khazalids)>safe-literally everyone elseThey're not squatting any ranges, this isn't end times 2.0Worst case scenario I see certain models going from named to generic like tahlia.Fluffwise yeah certain stuff will get changed like stormcast will be getting some major new characterisation, so will CoS probably. But models will be fine.>safe Literally everyoneThey're not squatting
>>97758824Every time he talks shit about the double turn I want to strangle him>but it allows for beta strikeyeah because alpha strike is so much better right
>>97758819It fucking sucks and I am tired of people trying to downplay how ass it is. It's a total betrayal of the DoK aesthetic.
>>97758797>rangenot what it says
>>97757519>Bret knights who spent years looking for the Lady of the Lake's special cup and get to drink from it would turn into uberchads with auras of pure holiness and lifespans lasting centuries>This was a far better take on superhuman warriors that Stormcucks or even SM because the guys had to do the quest for the grail to the point of despair in case they didn't find it and still carry onNTA but the overly Arthurian direction they took around 4-5ed was shit. I mean, Bretonnia took a dramatic shift that was just plain bad. Anyone who likes Stillman's Bretonnia is literally a child, at least mentally. It all reads like the most generic and fluffy children's book with a title like "My First Book About Knights" or something. Not saying Reynolds boring grimfest was any better, but dammit at least it had the big tweest of Bretonnian leadership being literally WElf plants.Stillman really thought he had something there and bulked the book with pages and pages of the blandest writing known to man. It features the most bowlderized arthurian style tale with the absolutely milquetoast progression of "brave and honourable knight bravely and honourably fights until he becomes a GK, end of story". If this wasn't warhammer branded I don't think it'd ever even make it onto the back of a cereal box, nevermind a whole 50 page bound paperback.The whole thing was clearly written for an audience of under 12 yo boys, can we please stop pretending ye olde 90s WFB was some sort of work of artistic genius?
>>97758824Buy an ad, preferably someone that doesn’t sound like a fag and doesn’t have a pfp that makes his actual appearance a joke.
>>97758842It's going to be like AoS 1.0. They won't squat anything at the start, but you're off your rocker if you think KO or IDK are going to exist in The Last World 2.0
>>97757803
>>97758812Don't you mean orruks and... what do you animals even call goblins? Goebbelins?
>>97758848yeah but they are meant to be side by side with the naked DoK, not a replacement, these are the elite armored version
>>97758866kharadrons will definitely survive, even if merged with the other dwarfsno way to salvage idoneth other than having sylvaneth adopt them
>>97758608It's the reverse from the groups I've seen. Geographically, each of them had some theme at least. Merging all of them would just make an even more video game >lava land right next to frozen wasteland next to desertstyle patchwork world.
>>97758878the Grots actually got a cool new name unlike the Orruks.I think it's the same as 40k only the plural is different
>>97758880They could have just given them the chainmail bikinis. But no, they had to dress them up AND make sure to sculpt folds so you can't just paint it as skin. It was 100% intentional and it's fucking slop. Look even here, the highest praise seen was " they are ok ". Total catastrophic design failure.
>>97758880>not a replacementyeah, as if there's a future for tow kits in aos, or half naked witch elves
>>97758809That's like saying a parked car just went a snail's pace. AoS in contrast would be like if a jogger suddenly became The Flash.
>Chaos is ALWAYS safewhy is this?
>>97758824>>97758247this why all you fags should appreciate vince, he won't waste 20 seconds of his show on this garbage.
>>97754956>>97755337>>97755338Gotta be honest, this sounds like bullshit. Specifically it sounds like a drastic fake leak specifically designed to track down whoever's been leaking things internally.End Times occurred because WHFB was selling poorly. The whole range was being outsold by the Tactical Marine kit for 40K. Age of Sigmar is a regular in the Top 10s for gaming miniature sales worldwide, even when accounting for TTRPG miniature lines like Nolzur's & Deep Cuts. Squatting the setting and slashing a a bunch of popular models that have been around for maybe 5 years tops would be so pants-on-head retarded that I can't see it happening even when GW is known for bad decisions. >>97755075There is a fairly decent Warhammer scene in Japan these days but IIRC 40K is the more popular game there, though I've got a few Japanese friends who play AoS as well.
>>97758860Brets were always the lamest part of whfb to me, either the grimderp or the noblebright versions. The pre-plastic minis were fucking kinoooo though. Genuinely some of gw's best sculpts considering the time period etc.>>97758866None of them are getting squatted man
>>97758907Because Chaos is the protagonist. All other factions exist only to give Chaos varied targets to dab on.
>>97758787>WarclansIf Kruleboyz survive there is no point in rebooting this shit.
>>97758914>Boole is wrong>Whitefang is wrong>WBMU is wrongLmao ok little buddy
>>97758846The whole reason no one wants to try this game is the double turn.I gave it a chance and no one else followed me because the idea of two turning someone is poison to normal people.
>>97758907People don't know this, but back in 3rd edition Warhammer Fantasy, GW was afraid of their setting being too generic, and not copyrightable (sounds familiar? That's when it started) So they started fleshing out Chaos.Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch and Slaanesh were invented as "the four Chaos Gods" but also the first great named characters of Warhammer Fantasy, created to follow every edition and put their greasy demonic fingers on everything, so that for Game Workshop this would always be clear and undeniable: "this is our copyright and our product".They are the shareholders, the Company, the Trademark, the Logo. They are Warhammer. They make it possible to have generic elves and Orcs, because Tzeentch and Khorne are always there watching over the IP anyway.
>>97757828I think adepticon will clear it out as they shitpost about 40k reveals but it may make it worse >hurr durr that's the last big release you'll get!
>>97758941This is why the reboot is a very good thing. No more double turn. No more stupid planescapes.Ideally they would adopt the turn system of MESBG. I move, you move, I shoot, you shoot, I charge, you charge etc. And just roll for priority each turn (which can be handed off)
>>97755527A trap is something like "Lumineth are the good guys in 5th edition starter!" or "Rootlords are coming as a Sylvaneth subfaction" something exciting people will want to share, but GW doesn't have to comment on. They can just let the rumor float out there and slowly die on their own."All the lore is going to be thrown in the garbage and the game is being relaunched" is a devastating rumor to have floating in the fandom. Not even GW is stupid enough to use that as a trap leak.
>>97758920Can someone just punch chaos in the balls already, I play chaos and I'm tired of it ruining the games.
>>97758958Yeah the copium is insane, why would they choose a rumor that would send their entire fanbase into turmoil? Nonsense.
>>97758946they should have been afraid of it since they just copied lotr and stuck their dnd minis in it.
>>97758955They could do that without wanking chaos evermore.
>>97758955>No more double turn. No more stupid planescapes.Wouldn't that just be handled by a change in rules?
>>97758955that's too much, they won't do this, they'll keep 4th edition rules.Otherwise 4th edition will be a bastard child with no father and no son, no past and no future. And people like how it plays.
>>97758946>Chaos gods, destructive entities that corrupt and defile the very existence, are the reason why WH and every setting can existBASED?
>>97758928you didn't know who any of these people are until yesterday
>>97758962Shutup zoomer and get dabbed on.
>>97758885>kharadrons will definitely survive, even if merged with the other dwarfs>no way to salvage idoneth other than having sylvaneth adopt themThis sounds like the highly hated>High Elves and Dark Elves in the same groupET did.
>>97758955>I move, you move,yeah sure great idea, cant wait to play keep away all game.
>>97758962you don't have the grit to be chaos
>>97758928>No trademark filings for "Warhammer: The Last World" in US, UK, or Europe>Erratic, inconsistent posts with conflicting details>Boole's bullshitted in the past and walked back "definite" leaks beforeNah, 100% real. Jame Workshop came to my house and told me in person that Warhammer The Last World is real and he will be personally smashing everyone's Age of Sigmar collections with a big hammer in preparation for it.
>>97758975>that's too much, they won't do this, they'll keep 4th edition rules.I genuinely don't think they will. A reboot is a perfect opportunity to make the game better. It's obvious they would take it. And MESBG has the most elegant turn system of any wargame ive seen. AoS 4th is really bad gameplay wise in case you haven't been listening to community consensus.
>>97758983people who hate double turn are mongoloids who can't think or preplan more than five minutes ahead, they just move all their guys to the center of the board and get angry that the opponent gets the double turn sometimes
>>97758997you're right, it's probably just a big prank pulled by multiple people who don't know each other for no benefit
>>97755738I remember people being like "'Age of Sigmar'? So it's going to be about the barbarian tribes fighting as Sigmar rose up to unify them? That could be neat!:
Idoneth, DoK, Kruleboyz, Fyreslayers, Bonereapers and Ironjawz will not survive transition.
>>97759005>AoS 4th is really bad gameplay wise in case you haven't been listening to community consensus.I don’t listen to no games who rely on forced memes
>>97759006I find that usually people who don't like the double turn have never tried it.
>>97758955>Ideally they would adopt the turn system of MESBG.Is this a good time to remind everyone their former lead rules writer joined the AoS team a month or two ago?
>>97758997>>97759008That's right, all these leakers decided collectively to burn their reputation on the same rumor in order to make the AoS community upset. And instead of coming out and saying it's bullshit GW is instead scrubbing comments from their social media asking about it.
>>97758968>entire fanbase4Chan does not matter lmfao get the fuck over yourself.
>>97758980How many setting will you ruin?>>97758989Regretfully I have the models.>>97759005They will double down and make triple turn and you know it.>>97759006Normal people hate it, it's irrelevant if a grog enjoys piling on some shitter.Normies thinks it's retarded and unfair, it is retarded and unfair, that's just how shit works.
>>977590214chan wasn't the first place dumbass, they don't care about this place. It was TGA, the home of the rumor mongers and the source of their fame.
>>977590214chan /aosg/ is the least perturbed by the news.In fact I'd argue this is where the news had the most positive reaction.
>>97758997>>97759018I think it's real to an extent, but they're not renaming the game or any retarded shit like that it's not nearly as drastic as the end times, or even close. The 40k 7th edition comparisons have the right of it imo.
>>97758770>I just don't understand what the direction of Last World would be.Grimdarking the setting in order to compete with Trench Crusade to nip them in the bud before they grow too big
>>97759006For every game where double turns can be managed I can go show you another where one where one of the games best players just got rolled by it.
>>97758907sellslizardmen are also always safe
>>97759035I think renaming it is a pretty safe bet. Age of Sigmar has toxic baggage attached to it in the mainstream. If they are going to drastically reboot it, they will choose a new name that doesn't carry over any baggage from previous editions. Kind of like how Warhammer Fantasy Battle became Warhammer: The Old World despite it being the continuation of the same game in a different setting.
>>97759044I never assembled Lord Kroak's model because I like his face too much and I don't want to glue the mask, but also I like the mask too much and I don't want to leave it out
>>97759035Yeah, I could see a 7E 40K Gathering Storm situation or even a WHFB Storm of Chaos situation where the setting gets shaken up big time, but an End Times style complete overhaul of the setting & system including squatting multiple popular armies & rolling the game into a niche specialist game meant as a sort of prequel to AoS is just so completely insane that I just can't see it happening.
oh my godd DOCTOOOSS james just manifested in my house and burned all my tomes AIEEEE he said that it's the "last book" oughhhhhhhhhhh guysssssss helpppppppp the leakers are 100% RIGHTTTTTTT despite changing their story 3 times in 2 days this couldnt be ANYTHING BUTTTT we need to BURN OUR ARMIESSSSS NOW. AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>97758958NTA but I've seen even worse be used for canary traps. Copyright traps have faked whole nonexistent towns for maps. Current GTA6 leaks have been alleged to do this very thing to catch leakers. I would think GW has been spreading rumors to get reactions but industries spread absurd rumors that get the loudest reactions all the time specifically because they're big enough that nobody accidentally guessed the same thing as a joke in communities full of bogus rumors, the reaction would be big enough to identify rather than fizzle, and they can chalk everything to them beta testing features that "were" planned but canned before the final product to avoid accusations of this trick.
>>97758770>"we get crazier zanier more exaggerated stuff than Old World", but now? What's the plan?still doing crazier zanier more exaggerated stuff, but instead of dialing things to 11 they go to like a 8.5 or something which is what they've been doing for a while already actually
>>97759032Suuuuuure...
>>97759053Stage 2 is bargaining. Soon you will feel great anger.
>>97756029My guess is what he is talking about is those cultures exist in the lore. So you can make CoS armies using TOW models
>>97759062When I worked on gta 4 management would purposely give false information to play testers. They would say things like “we removed such n such feature, please give us feedback on how the game plays now” when in actuality there was never a feature to begin with. Then when a news article releases saying such n such feature was removed according to source, r* would be able to weed out who was the leaker based on the false information given.
>>97759063yes but that works because we're doing Fish Elves and Flesh Eaters dialed to 8.5.If we do Duardin dialed to 8.5 and they have to contend with Dwarfs dialed to 5.0 it becomes a problem (again, unless they merge the ranges)
>>97759051I think the model works better with the mask, but yeah, his face is funI haven't bought the model yet because it's quite intimidating honestly, but from what I heard it should be possible to attach a pin to the mask so you can attach it and detach it without glue whenever, like to represent wounds or just when you fancy
>>97759062That would maybe work if it was just Boole. But it's not just Boole, it's 3 very credible rumor mongers. GW did not successfully get all 3 with the same fake rumor. This is copium. Also we have another 4th guy saying he is proofreading and Whitefang liking his posts. It exists, they didn't create concept art and rules to trap.
>>97759072sure.Find another place where the majority of people are saying "fucking finally they got rid of the planes"
>>97759073NTA but the whole "stages of grief" are just a meme,>mcgill.ca/oss/article/health-history/its-time-let-five-stages-grief-die>psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/laugh-cry-live/202303/stages-of-grief-the-harmful-myth-that-refuses-to-dieBelieving in this is being swindled.
>>97759049>If they are going to drastically reboot itBut it's not that drastic of a reboot though, all the cities and regions are still there, just one a single plane. Like the game is not going to squares, they're not renaming all the factions, none of that shit. It ain't the end times, it's still age of sigmar. I can see the last world being a tagline like sigmar lied or something, but other than that not really. Maybe as a subtitle? But warhammer: age of sigmar: the last world sounds gigaretarded not even gw would go for that.
>>97759041mate, AoS is not more Grimdark than 40k, it can't out-Grimdark Trench Crusade, the Cult of the Black Grail alone is more disgusting than anything Nurgle I've ever seen, especially if you read the lore of what the units are supposed to be
>>97759094>majority of people are saying "fucking finally they got rid of the planes"NTA but we do that here? I don't see that.
>>97759094Most of those people aren’t even from this general
>>97759108It's going to be "Age of archaon: we don't know what to do"
>>97759123anon is making shit up, people saying this is people never cared for aos to begin with.
>>97759125you got it wrong, the "this game is dead" crowd is made of tourists and false flaggers
>>97759108Like I said, Age of Sigmar is obviously going away. Because of the negative mainstream baggage Age of Sigmar has as a name. It's basic marketing to change a products name if you want to wipe away previous preconceptions. They aren't doing this reboot because AoS fans that currently play wanted it, they are doing it to get more people who don't play AoS into AoS. A crucial step is changing the name to something that isn't the product they already rejected.
>NipponSo who actually asked for this? And who thought this would get anything but laughter? Is there even a demand for Nippon these days?
>>97759132that goes against the rumors, we were told the name stays the same
>>97759136>T5 Armstrong Gunskek based
>>97759136I made a beautiful chart with real Nippon rules and real Nippon miniatures and you fags keep using these weird fanfic images made by who-knows-who
>>97759138You might want to reread the rumors. You are conflating Whitefang liking a post that says something like " So it's Warhammer: Age of Sigmar The Last World " now but with no Sigmar. The initial rumor says it's a name change to The Last World.
>age of sigmar (sigmar died)>stormcast eternals (eternal no more)>the last world (until the next reboot)
>>97759136Of all the garbage they are planning adding this boring humanoid factions is by far the worst.Instead of Silent People, Root Kings, hell even memes like Emberneth we are getting Not!Cathay. Horrible.
>mfw Arasaka coming to this gameFuck, and we just got back from destroying Shinra too. I knew we should've toppled the Mishima Zaibatsu for good.
>>97759136I’m pretty sure I saw some small hysteria over Cathay being added before some actual explicit weebshit.
>>97759151you missed the kur6 stuffwhitefang liked his posts, he's been saying he's the proofreader for the main rulebook, that boole is blowing things out of proportion and that otherwise he's rightrealms are gone, sigmar dies, brand stays the same, the setting is mostly identical, just shrimpler
>>97759149I think I prefer pop culture who know who’s over yours
>>97759149That's the point. It's full on parody meme material rather than anything serious. That's how little >Nipponis taken seriously. There's really that big a demand for more East Asia after Cathay? And with GW's track record, it'll be another Bretonnia to the Empire, a neglected faction whose niche like cavalry is inferior to Empire's cavl
AoS 5th. Literally Simplified but not Simple.
>>97759162>the setting is mostly identicalExcept y'know, The Mortals Realms going away
>>97759136We need the Jap market to save the brand. Plus their mythological beastiary is easy to copy
>>97759174The Mortal Realms were a tragically minor part of the setting."Tragically" because they should have been an important focus, and instead they were a nothingburger.Removing them changes very little, which is a testament to how badly they were implemented.
>>97759132>Because of the negative mainstream baggage Age of Sigmar has as a name.Mainstream knowledge of Warhammer begins and ends with it being toy soldiers, normal people don't know about shit like the end times
>>97759183they don't take inspiration from real world cultures anymore, it's problematic.We only get melanges like Lumineth and Helsmiths
>>97759189Fine, then "mainstream nerd knowledge", aka "reddit knowledge"
>>97759183As someone more involved in Gunpla than any GW property, I'm laughing. As an anecdote, there are small AoS scenes in Japan but all GW properties are dwarfed by Gunpla and more. And their economy has been in the shitter for long enough that I doubt they can save anything, let alone themselves.
>>97759189Well damn, it's a shame you don't work for GW because clearly the market research they have done to greenlight the reboot was wrong and you're right.
>>97759174if I told you 99% of the universe was changed to be completely different but earth, the solar system and its most immediate surroundings were kept the same, would you think shit has changed drastically to you?the same is happening here, the maps and everything aos has built upon in 10 years is staying >>97755546 it's the irrelevant unexplored vastnesses of the rest of the realms that's going away, but we were never going there to begin with, everything has been playing out in the same infinitesimal corners of the realms for a while
>>97759196>they don't take inspiration from real world cultures anymore, it's problematic.Ah yes, the ahistorical high fantasy Grand Cathay (no ties to any historical people or culture )
>>97759203>because clearly the market research they have doneNTA but they do market researc?
>Well damn, it's a shame you don't work for GW because clearly the market research they have done to greenlight the reboot was wrong and you're right.
Is there a pdf of the OBR 4th edition battletome available?
>>97759167Tbf you can actually expand a crusader faction you just not have to be retarded and not turn them into the abomination that is Bretonia. Order of the furrow was that and had your mounted knights and moss lepers with cross imagery. I’m more than fine if they’re using that as reference for a not Bretonian faction. Just make it grimdark by making them symbiosed with nature, having branches come out of their eyes with blooming flowers and bleeding crowns. Also why is it so fucking hard to sculpt thorned vines that don’t look like shit.
So if all the realms are merged, what is the sun now? Maybe Ignax makes a comeback and flies around this new world?
>>97759211Did you assume a billion dollar company goes off vibes?
>>97759208NTA but Cathay isn't big at all. They're not selling whole games like hotcakes. I wouldn't be surprised if Cathay's own presence deters Japanese buyers.Hell, with a recent shitflinging between Chinar and Japan, it was enough to make gacha games pivot Japanese inspired levels to something else to avoid pissing off Chinese customers. And inevitable GW mistakes would mean they'd offend them by sheer accident. This is a recipe for disaster.
>>97759201not big enough of a demographic then to have impact on such things
>>97759225What the fuck are you talking about? I'm just showing that the guy is objectively wrong. Keep your weeb geopolitics to yourself.
>>97759225There is a romance of the three kingdom fandom that’s hard in Japan but Cathay doesn’t really appeal to that fantasy at all.
>>97759220With how retarded GW has been? The biggest reason I laugh is because creating a whole new range for Nippon is that it'd have logistic problems even a company as dumb as GW would be stumped by. You can't shoot yourself in the foot and expect to sprint without problems. I expect them to do retarded moves, but I also expect them to realize needing all they would need to support>Nipponwould be way more trouble than it's worth.
>>97759151>The initial rumor says it's a name change to The Last World.No anon, the original boolepost says the new world (the one created by merging the realms) is called the last world, not that the game is called that. It's not currently called warhammer: the mortal realms, or warhammer: the cosmos arcane either.
>>97759227You're right dude, GW is just going off vibes. And the vibes they are getting from the Mortal Realms are icky so its gotta go
>>97759094>planes
>>97759208They had to go through an "Asian sensitivity team" that essentially vetoed anything remotely negative to do Cathay.It was an exception because they were desperate to try and get the Chinese audience (and also because they were working with Creative Assembly).I can assure you they'll avoid doing that again as much as they can.
>>97759219the parts of the realms that are getting scrapped basically explode and their fundamental components such as gases form a sun and a bunch of other gas giants or lifeless planets or satellites in a very conventional star system, also the explosion is so strong that the bubble of void the realmspheres were in pops and it's all back into realspace now
>>97759101Anon people that post about the stages of grief like this are not pretending to make an accurate psychological assessment of trauma
>Get told since its inception that AoS sells incredibly well>It was all a lieWhat the hell man
>>97759235True, they're also very big on Journey to the West. But I agree historic China isn't the selling point. I find trying to make it into the Japan market tempting but stupid given how dominant gunpla is. And Gundam recently did a wargame too so I feel the odds any GW property will go up, regardless of what they do, are slim.
>>97759246Kislev is literally coming around the end of this year as per the rumor mongers. AoS doesn't have historically inspired cultures because they didn't want to do them. TOW gets them because they want to do more of them for that setting.
>>97759251Objectively superior to its predecessor on that fron though. I'd post the investor report but it seems we've reached the umage limit (wew) someone else baking the new thread already?
>>97759251( Age of ) Sigmar lied ( about the sales )>>97759252The Gundam game is ass with the rules being an afterthought. Like most Japanese IP tie ins, it's a cheap asset flip that won't be around in 1-2 years. That's the Jap business model, they are more shortsighted than Americans.
>>97759255>AoS doesn't have historically inspired cultures because they didn't want to do themlumineth are pretty on the nose with some asian stuff
>>97759251Sales are not the problemNew players investment, Grog baggage and Years of bad setting writing are problems.
>>97759267GW is ass at making rules. Gundam fans would eat it up regardless. Gundam VS over there fills arcades. Even cheap asset flips will do better when you've got such a dominant IP. Char Aznable's manchild Lalah crying ass is their Vader in pop culture.
>>97759276>Sales are not the problemI thought it's corpo greed Geedubs being discussed. Shouldn't TOW be a hub for grogs?
Assuming the rumors true, wow that's beyond lame. I only purchase occasional blood bowl and sigmar kit, and rarely play any GW games as is, but between 2nd end times to rebrand negatives attach to a name and CoS being confirmed as just being Warhammer Fantasy's rebranded Empire instead of just creating new units with dwarf and elf models mixed with humans is beyond lame and just makes last three editions' pointless. Like say I am a ToW player, why would I play CoS when I could simply buy an Empire kit and never play the game instead? Why as CoS player even bother caring about a faction that keeps getting completely retconned every few years?Lame.
>>97759203>GW>Doing Market Research
>>97759286The models? Sure. The lore? Absolutely not.
>>97759267>>97759279Can confirm, I play to get a few kits for the models.
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>>97759295Changes like this reverting to not!WHFB doesn't sound like it pleases lore either. And from what I've read about feedback about sagas like Broken Realms, the storylines are appreciated. This would be a massive change that arguably invalidates many previous ones while not having half the buildup. Some players like the stories if not the overall setting,.
>>97757887>>97757959Fundamentally, what actually changes story-wise if this were to happen? All the realms become "continents" on what I would assume to then be a colossal super-earth sized planet and there's no real need for realmgates since you can sail to other places. And you have firm locations so it falls back into the limitation of Fantasy where you need to make a real justification for why one army is invading some other place and be careful of the kind of damage or changes such an invasion causes.So it's just Fantasy but with a different map and cow elves.
>>97759313I was talking about tow.
>>97758848>Muslim occupied country>Shocked their entertainment media is now covering women's bodies
>>97755513I sure hope they don't terminate the play servers and remotely delete all my paperbacks, otherwise I'd be forced to go play 40k 8th like when I was younger
>>97756272>Oh and fuck archaon being the one to kill siggy, I'm so tired of muh chaos.The only good way to do it IMHO is to have Gordrakk (and the most terryfing / OP WAAAGH ever this side of the warp) breach Azyr and have an epic clash with Sigmar that destroys most of the realm, whith a barely victorious Sigmar being killed by Archaon. Like a dark mirror to the victory of the Emperor over Horus
>>97756672>>97756677And I liked it because it made it possible to do have whacky homebrewed backgrounds or campaigns. which is impossible in a known place like WHB (seriously, I'm sure every little hamlet has its own lore and WFRP extension).But I guess you couldn't use your imagination without prompting ChatGPT, so I can understand your point of view
>>97757201Reminder that your best soldiers are created by an elvish psyop for them to have spacemarines to defend their afterlife project, and that they got pwnd in the background.Still cool that I can buy them at any toy store though
>>97757831Wait, with the stormcast having been redesigned (twice) since, and with firstborn marines having been phased out, does it mean that GW now has two obsolete statues on his front porch ?
