Palladium Games and Rifts General! /PGaRG/RIFTS! The science fantasy world of post-apoc cyborgs, wizards, dragons, ninjas, giant mecha, super-nazis, robot ninjas, vampires, underwater kingdoms, remnant human supertech civilizations and everything you can imagine all rolled into one setting where interdimensional RIFTS have pierced Earth's fabric and turned it into a playground for aliens and monsters!Plus other Palladium Games about superheroes, zombies, classic fantasy, supernaturals investigation and more. Talk about:>RIFTS(tm)>Heroes Unlimited>Palladium Fantasy>Beyond the Supernatural>Dead Reign>Robotech (lol)>TMNT & Other Strangeness + After the Bomb>Splicers>Nightbane>Savage Rifts>Resources, PDFs, links, podcasts, etc.:https://pastebin.com/nCtwd6JwPDF Rules Primer with short adventure:>https://files.catbox.moe/ds5suk.pdf>official (highly-moderated) discord:https://discord.gg/xGkk75Z>Scholarly Adventures reviews and guideshttps://www.scholarlyadventures.com/blog>The Rifter torrent with issues #0 to #85https://files.catbox.moe/57wqyo.torrent>Previous thread:>>97687068>Thread Question:If you could "fix" or house-rule one major rule in Palladium, what would it be?
>>97722115Hey anon, did you make this yourself? I like the style.
Palladium News:>New KS for Savage Rifts Phase World:>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/star-anvil-studios/savage-phaseworld>Legion of Myth:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24xmK-NUmlA>Worlds of Palladium exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum:>https://www.detroithistorical.org/exhibitions/worlds-palladium
>>97756833>New KS for Savage Rifts Phase World:Fucking gross>>Worlds of Palladium exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum:Its pretty cool, would suggest
>>97757300lol I honestly feel bad for the Savage Worlds guy because in all the interviews I've watched he seems like a decent dude, but man I don't care for Savage Rifts
>>97756833I wonder if there is a plaque saying that Detroit is the greatest power on the planet.
>>97759715He was going to live in Thailand before this whole Palladium thing so I hate him anyway. I dont like expats. I think they still want the benefits of being a US citizen but want to live where in places where their dollar is stronger but not yet ruined from them participating in their government.
Nuke the leylines
>>97755837Nah, I genned it. I used a lora that's about bio-punk and cyberpunk. I'm also the slopper that does the tokens.
>>97755837https://civitai.com/models/1288162/bio-divisionI probably should link it. I've been using it to try and make splicers art.
>>97760956That'll just make them stronger!
>>97762276As a caster im pro nuking them
>>97761090>>97761133Nice, thanks for the link, anon!
>>97760956They call that a Kansas weiner sizzler!
>>97765384So that's what that means! I called the number on the stall advertising that but the dude who picked up was talking about something different.
Are there angels in Rifts like there are demons and devils?
>>97766684That's a Missouri Missile Cutter. It still involves hitting your crotch with cosmic energies but everyone gathers around you behind the 7-11 and claps afterward.
>>97755809I'm looking to run a sci-fi pulp game on a knockoff hive world that is in a steady decline towards post-apocalyptia and anarchy. I want it to be lethal but not grubby Dark Heresy 'you suck woodchuck assholes' weak player experience. I'm also partial to systems where it's easy to stand up an encounter and easy to modify shit. Is RIFTS a good fit for this? I've had it recommended before.
>>97768765>easy to stand up an encounter and easy to modify shit. Is RIFTS a good fit for this?No, Rifts is not good for this, unless you use an AI chatbot to generate all the stats for you. It has a lot of stats and a very crunchy combat system. You can start very powerful, however, as most classes are front-loaded with lots of abilities.
Did that one anon ever get the chance to post the print friendly cheat sheet for rifts/TMNT combat?
>>97767643Good question, yes there is but Kevin insists on not giving them stats or names. He has the general catagorey of "gods of light" being all good gods but stats out some of the Egyptian pantheon.He explains it a few times in the books he does that because respect to Christians but personally I think its only because he has an Aunt or something that would beat him with a large iron bound Bible. He does outline how to have them in terms of making deals or getting bennies:>Entities of light (angels and BigJ) only make pacts limited to specific objectives and never just to make people stronger. Ie, "Kill this demon specifically" or "rescue these people." They can give magic items but like the parts they will take them back immediately when the job is done. They take a very hands off, things will work out in their own approach to world's in general.So, no. Angels exist but Kevin intentionally leaves them vague compared to demons.
Can d-bees become cyber-knights or only humans?
>>97770910You can image to text it. Five minutes of editing and you're all good.
>>97776413This is based on my older version of Rifts; I'm uncertain how this is reflected in the Ultimate Edition.Cyberknight is an OCC (occupational character class), not a PCC (psychic character class) or RCC (racial character class); therefore, as long as the D-Bee doesn't have isn't tied to specific RCCs, you should be able to use that dimensional being and build a Cyberknight.
How' After The Bomb?
>>97770910Here's a PDF you can copy from, enjoy:https://files.catbox.moe/bo4d10.pdf
There's something to Rifts B&W art that can't be replicated in color.
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>>97779900Especially the Long stuff.
>>97772301This is really false and kevin has never said no to angel stats. Please post him saying no in context.Here are the stats for angels, why lie?
>>97780886Huh, intredasting. Which book is this from? NTA but maybe he didn't read it (I sure never did)? Have there ever been any angelic incursions into Rifts Earth or any of the Three Galaxies the way there are constant demonic incursions?
>>97780934Its from dragons and gods, which is a fantastic book everyone should buy it.Yhe angels are just used basic as summons for good gods and hugh level dragons and wizards.I cant recall an incursion or liberation of an area by angels specifically
>>97778433Are you asking whether it's a good game? Yeah, it's great. Takes the detailed TMNT martial arts mutant animal fighting game and adds a cool post-apocalyptic setting to it. The bad guys are The Empire of Humanity and the good guys are a coalition of ragtag mutant animals trying to re-create American democracy in the wasteland. It's awesome fun.
>>97776413In RUE it says there are no racial requirements. I think in Phaseworld they mention Cyber Knights a lot so its an space OCC as well. Glitterboys are mentioned as well but they say there that its glitterboys from earth out on a space adventure.
>>97780886From old forum posts, mostly. I suppose it was just about having Jesus and christianity in Rifts.
>>97778433Some people swear by it and supposedly its getting more popular. I can never get into a game but as I understand its not a guns galore setting like Heroes or Rifts.
>>97783278IIRC, Mutants in Orbit explains why rockets cannot enter orbit or leave orbit and have stats for Glitter Boy variants that can maneuver in space.
>>97785103I wonder what will happen to Mutants in Orbit when Sean cuts up all the properties and sells them off.
>>97786018I doubt Sean would do that. He's revitalized Palladium and it's making money on many lines now, like TMNT, Savage Rifts, and the deluxe book reissues. Maybe they'll even get the Robotech license back and do new RPG books for it.
>>97755809Was thinking about maybe running a rifts solo game using the Everywhen system....
>>97787303Do you have some random tables for encounters, treasure, monster tactics, etc.? I can share a few if anons want.
I want to check Rifts modules. What are the standard recs/your personal faves?
>>97789336That's the thing... Rifts doesn't really have any "standard modules" or adventures that are popular common experiences in the community. It's a hodgepodge of old mini-adventures and rare adventures from The Rifter magazine and very short Hook-Line-Sinker adventure ideas from various supplements. Palladium doesn't really print regular, big adventures like D&D does. I guess the closest thing would be the stock sample adventure in Sourcebook One called The Face of Evil.
>>97789336In the back of mercenaries, and juicer uprising there are 2 of the few "modules"You will need to fill alot in
>>97789336I dont think Ive ever played a module. What is it like, anyway?
>>97787416Would be nice, thanks.>>97789336I read through what I think was the first one. Underground AI research lab with terminators. was neat.
>>97786536Then why is he taking the splurgoth out of savage phaseworld as well as anything connecting phaseworld to rifts?
>>97789336Ive read seven years on cerepberus and I am legion and I didnt really like their formats, and those are the only modules I've read unless you could the Adventure Quest board game.
>>97789336There's an adventure series from the Rifter called The Fall of NORAD and Return to NORAD. Not technically for Rifts but Chaos Earth rather, but still a good one. Here are the PDFs, since we can't upload them here any more. https://litter.catbox.moe/l1xt4ic6i875da0f.pdfhttps://litter.catbox.moe/syhfuyqo8ggh5648.pdf
>>97789510I wasn't thinking about forever campagins. One shots or setting, even magazine sections are fine.>>97790082I don't mind as long as that's the intended way to run them. I haven't played before so I want to try to get close to the "proper" way.>>97791235In Rifts? No clue, that's why I ask.I used module as a catch all for one shots or settings or whatever pre-writen stuff people use.>>97791241Cool, I'll check it. Is it stand alone or in a particular book?
>>97791251I'll check them in case our tastes don't match, but it happens. I like Delta Green but I can't run their modules, they feel like a novel you read and then make a game about it.>>97791254Cool! Thanks!
>>97791637>Cool, I'll check it. Is it stand alone or in a particular book?trying to search via the bits of memory I have, I think its rifts sourcebook 01, OP's image I believe is the tittlepage. Its a combination of a source book on North America's Coalition areas and at the end a stand alone adventure which is on like page 60. think there is a pdf of it online you can find by just searching for it on google. Skimming through it now, Really like the illustrations in it. Has a super cool bold attitude that is hard to find nowadays without it feeling manufactured.
>>97791245Savage rifts is likely choosing to take them out because of all the slavery, the fact that a solid 1/5 of the 3 galaxies is controlled by the spligorths. And if slavery has the possibility of owning the cosmic forge they dont want to entertain it.I dont think thats sean doing it more its likely Sean Patrick Fannon, the savage rifts main author not Sean Roberson, the palladium books guy.Them both being sean makes ita confusing.But Roberson doesnt seem to be extremely woke
>>97793333An image from the book. Think also >>97789510is from it.
>>97793509fuck forgot to post. For some reason on my laptop it doesnt allow me to post images in incognito, but on my desktop it does.
>>97793361I suspect you're right. Roberson isn't woke but Fannon sure is.
>>97793333Nice quads. Here's Sourcebook One with the adventure and it's also a sourcebook for robotics and AI. Don't read the GM section if you're a player, it has major spoilers for the Rifts metaplot. https://files.catbox.moe/zzwg0g.pdf
Are the Naruni really Tau space jews?
>>97759552BASED leyline walker
>>97793539I figured something had to be rotten in denmark for savage rifts to be so lame while Roberson seems pretty chill
>>97794733They are definitely space jews, nothing tau about them though.They are pure capitalism, demon worship, slavery, and violence.Like lord of war meets, jews, meets bateman+ they are demons
>>97795950so glad the deadboys roast those fuckers whenever they get the chancesome dbee asshole was shooting one of those naruni plasma guns around in the burbs the other day, roasted a pile of people before the deadheads wasted him
>>97796573The CS are and always have been the heroes of humanity
>>97794733They do not subscribe to socialist government systems like the tau nor any of that life being priceless, thats for certain.
>>97779910The best artist of all time in my view. Shameful we don't have more work from him.Long is Rifts!
>>97798035yeah long and breaux are my two favorites, the phase world art is the best for like the first 3 books of phase world im entranced i love who ever is this squigily line also whats the artist name...i can decifier that shit
The art in Palladium books has always been incredibly interesting and inspiring. Like, just looking at the art gives me adventure ideas and makes me want to play.
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>>97793539Fannon is hardly woke. He very nearly got cancelled when some SA allegations were leveled at him. https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/sean-patrick-fannon-called-out-for-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harrassment.827712/Note he replied himself on the first page of this mess, but most of his receipts got redacted by a mod.He was removed as the lead on the Savge Rifts line (the SWADE reboot, specifically), but he may have quietly been drawn back in after the success of Prowlers and Paragons UE.His business partners stuck by him through everything.The authors on the latest Savage Rifts project, Europa, were Aaron Burkett, PK Levine, John Stevens, Sean Owen Roberson, Johnny Roccia, & Patrick Young. Make of that what you will.BTW, Savage Phase world is being handled by Star Anvil Studios, the crew behind Starbreaker - Saints & Synners and The Secret World for Savage Worlds, so different crew altogether.
>>97801107>>97801061>>97801058>>97801052>>97801044>>97801039>>97801032Same guys
>>97801197>He very nearly got cancelled when some SA allegations were leveled at him.being kinda gropey doesn't make you automatically not woke, it means you used feminism to rape bitches....so the usual but good to know on the other points. Is start anvil studios good ive never read any of the books you listed.
>>97801197>Woke guy is actually loves molesting womenSurprise!
>>97756833Man, I wish I could go to Detroit.
>>97802380The Secret World is an odd game, taking an older acane & occult MMO and adapting it to Savage Worlds. It is a solid premise and would play well with other settings, such as being the present state of affairs for a modern Rippers game, though the secret societies are all human.Starbreaker wears its space Opera influences openly. The options to be good guys pretending to be bad guys is interesting - as is the possibility of being actual criminals. It feels like they were channeling Guardians of the Galaxy in the best ways.The books are well done, and clearly the powers that be thinks the team, which includes Alan Bahr, are good at what they do, granting them access to the Rifts license.
>>97803787...said no-one, ever. Detroit is a shithole, this might be the highlight of the whole place. That and rat-on-a-stick kebab.
>>97801197>SynnersClassic cyberpunk novel. Nice reference.
>>97803787https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo
>>97803787I do not. I would be satisfied of footage retrieved from someone who was brave enough to go in there.
>>97798035I'd say he's the happy middle. Not as detailed as walton but more creative.
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>>97813073There were a lot of great Rifts artists but my favorites were always Long and Perez. And the amazing covers by Zeleznik, of course, but that goes without saying.
>>97778911Thank you. I really appreciate it. I did not see this until now.
>>97814099De nada! Any time. I was going to post the random tables when I had time to format them.
Splicers fans, what's up with host armor?In a lot of the book it seems synonymous with Dreadguard, but for some reason Roughnecks and Outriders have it. Why? Especially Outriders, why do they get giant warbeasts AND host armor when packmasters and archangels don't? It feels like they just slapped it on them late in the setting's development to justify the giant host armor creation sectionAlso, how exactly is humanity organized? There are nobles mentioned, but they're ruled by warlords selected through duels, so how does that work? Finally, what is a true Gene-Pool, the stare of a gene-pool beyond Engineer and Librarian?
>>97816979Splicers!The key point is the Bio-E they get assigned. Deeadguards get the most, then roughnecks, then outsiders. The Bio-E means more mods or enhancements, on top of that dreadguards get some metabolism and can upgrade ro a dreadnaught. I think Outriders get host armors because almost all warmounts are saddle mounted. Not just an exposed cockpit but that you are on top of the thing. In my campaign when the Machine was controlling troops they would target the warmount rider.
>>97816979>Also, how exactly is humanity organized? There are nobles mentioned, but they're ruled by warlords selected through duels, so how does that work?As I understand it, they have different governments but they all are they all are under emergency wartime protocols. So they have their own ways of handling the government work but a feudal warlord has executive power. Personally, I throw most of the office names out and go full weeb: Houses are run by a warlord and families of dreadguards are his retainers. The engineers and all the bio machine makers are a the psuedo religious class is that they dont have power outside of everyone depedending on them and that they are all weirdos and they talk about weird things people dont understand.>Finally, what is a true Gene-Pool, the stare of a gene-pool beyond Engineer and Librarian?Genepools are saints, basically. Saints become engineers and their legs form genepools. In Swven Years on Cerebus the genepools just happen. Some Saints become Librarians instead.It should be noted that genepools arent just holes. They are concave organs with millions of microscopic tendrils that physically reach into cells one by one and insert genes. The goo is just ambiotic fluid, iirc.You are probably right some OCCs getting host armors to justify the creation rules but I personally think its the roughnecks. In their skills they dont actually include host armor piloting.
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Attention. I have read nightbane. I think its actually very good!
>>97823805Im sorry, but that looks like an adult diaper. She is wearing a ballistic duraplasty brief.
>>97827279Nightspawn/bane is one of Palladium's most unique lines.
>>97827279>>97827630It's one of the most original ones, yes, and has some great monster PC creation tables. Wish it had gotten more traction among fans of 80s horror movies.
Man, I love Rifts covers.
>>97836149I think the rifter covers are usually better I think because there is not so much a pressure to display the setting of the book as much.
>>97837544They're much more amateurish, I'd say.
>>97837830The poser 3D or the figure fantasy covers lower the average, I will agree to that.
I think this is the most forbidden and most essential book for sdc settings.
>>97831842I think I would like to run a nightbane character but I keep seeing only HU games available. I suddenly see why I kept seeing people applying to rifts games with nightbane characters. Has anyone run a nightbane character in an HU campaign? All told it seems like you could say it takes place in the same dimension, same planet its just there was this paranormal secret war going on and the superheroes never noticed that there is a highly restrictive third party in the government that took power and how most police and government officials are bug filled homunculuses or demon clones or in on the conspiracy. Happens all the time in comics.
>>97755809Yeah
>>97755809>If you could "fix" or house-rule one major rule in Palladium, what would it be?Flight rules. I would either change them or make them have an illustrated guide to explain how it works or a hotline where Kevin will come down to your house with a six pack of beer to explain it to you in person.
>>97845379Its great for inspiration but the damage and ranges are clearly written by a non gun person. 30.06 and 5.56 doing identical damage 5.45x39 doing 1d8 and 5.56x45 doing 4d67.62x39 doing 4d6 but so does .308 on some guns.Nice art, if your not a gun guy or into reality it's alright. Its cool to see the variety but the dmg and ranges are wonky
>>97847138Gee, that makes me wonder what more realistic damage values would look like.
Rolled 40 (1d100)Let's make a nightbane with random roll tables!
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>97851054okay
>>97851054>31-45 % Marred Beauty: The character has a beautiful True Shape, but it is marred by a gruesome stigmata. Make rolls on the Unearthly Beauty Table, the Stigmata Table, and the Night-bane Characteristics Table.Well, at least we arenr a furry. We are somewhere between pinhead and barbie is us. Give me 3 1d100 rolls. We could very well have ro roll multiple times on the same tables.
>>97851071>31-50% Elfin Features: The character has slender and deli-cate features, oversized eyes and vaguely pointed ears, reminis-cent of the legends of elves and faerie. Increase P.B. by 7 points (minimum 17) and size by 1 D6 inches. Their unusual appear-ance has Horror Factor 6.Okay! 2 1d100 for the stigma and nightbane feature tables then!
Rolled 24, 55 = 79 (2d100)>>97851098Cool. My stigmata better be good.
>>9785114624-31 % Razor Blades: Razor blades are unnaturally attached to the Nightbane. They may have replaced teeth or fingernails, or even cover the character like a porcupine 's quills. Add ID4+ 1 to H.F. The character gains +4D6 to S.D.C., and inflicts an additional 1 D6 S.D.C. in hand to hand combat if the fingernails have been replaced with razors. Or a bite inflicts 2D6 S.D.C. if the razor blades appear in the mouth. If the blades are on the skin, body slams do 2D6 S.D.C. plus nonnal punch damage.41-60% Alien Creature: Roll on the Alien Shape Table.We're a razor blade covered elf, definitely a punk glamrock look. 1d100 more to see how much more messed up.
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>97851181Not bad, hoping for some xenomorph traits.
>>97851207>38-45% Thorns: Thorns protrude from the character's body!They may appear to be natural growths, or they might be stigmata-like, appearing to painfully pierce the character's skin! Add 4D6 to S.D.C. and 1D4 to Horror FactorI'll do the math tonight but we have have Ellen features, razors in our mouth, fingers, or skin, and we are covered in thorns. I think our name should be "sharpie" or "knife-ears" because holyshot there is not a an area of our body that doesnt cut or poke holes in things and we look fantastic. Like all Nightbane we are stacking up the sdc.Any suggestions for talents? With Ellen we are pretty much guaranteed ro be a party face.
>>97851263Make her female and call her Hedgehag.
>>97845422I've played a Nightbane in Rifts, but never HU. I think most folks would think you are some kind of mutant, honestly. As for tying in Dark Day and the invasion, that would be up to the GM. They may not want to mess with it, and you would just be an odd mutant-like being to most.I'd be more inclined to include HU characters in my Nightbane games, but then Nightbane was my favorite line. I tended to go full kitchen sink with my Palladium games, back in the day.>>97851274There is a character remarkably similar to that in the film Nightbreed; she's not a main character, but shows up in the Battle for Midian.
>>9785076130.06 and 308 should be about equal5.45 and 5.56 should be equal7.62x39 equals a mini 30 roundRifle calibers should do more than handgun45>40>9>380>.22This is an unbalanced but closer to reality list50 bmg,12.7x108mm(russian) = 2d6x10338 lupa=1d6x1054r, 30.06, 308= 1d4x407.62x39, 270= 6d65.56, 5.45, 5.8×42mm(chinese), 44mag=5d645acp, 9mm lago, 38 super, 357=4d640, 357sig, 7.62x25tok= 3d69mm 2d6+2.22 1d8This would make a punch 1d4 and a kick 1d6 though obviously a .22 is greatly more damaging than a kick but its a game
>>97853903>mini 30 round30 carbine sorry
>>97851511I think nightspawn into HU is fine, as long as the gm or player agrees no dream stream or astral(the extremely expanded version in nightspawn at least) Its alot to ask to have 2 relms of reality that only you can access and the gm has to learn, prepare for and rp with you..The rest of the table gets to sit and do jack shit nothing during your jonts
>>97853943Yeah, that would fit better in a more focused game, with OCCs & PCCs that can better interact there (Dreamlands & the Astral plane), and would fit better with Beyond the Supernatural, DESU. At least with the Darklands, the Nightbane can facilitate forays there, and there are natural portals in and out.It also would depend on the other HU characters, as super psychics and mages might have access to the correct abilities, again, with GM input. Basically, the whole crew would need to be ok with the layers of interaction, IMHO. With the right crew, it could be awesome.
>>97853943>>97856118Very true. The rules I have learned through bitter GM and player experience are:>If someone goes to the astral plane, EVERYONE goes to the astral plane>If someone goes into cyberspace for some hacking, EVERYONE goes into cyberspace for some hackingOtherwise it kills the game.
Do you ever use other scifi concepts from other sources to put in your games?
>>97861458Yes. In splicers I tried to have the sewer system be so complex that they could hire a guide. I also have cisterns and broken pipes cover charms and other shapes to convey the sewer landscape. Sadly, everyone burned out before I could introduce a proper sewer village.I ripped off sewer shark for the sega CD.
>>97863639>>97861458I should mention I like to pull from the worst I can find so no one suspects I copied it. I haven't gotten an opportunity to rip off Dr Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine but its a going to happen one day!
>>97857112Is there like a technowizard like that? Like a badly made TW brass knuckle that if the party sticks a finger in each whole they call can be daisy chained on his astral silver cord? If not, I think my idea is pretty good.
>>97861458Why is there a belt funneling bullets into or out of their head?
>>97861458Games?
>>97836149It would be cool if there was like 1 big media project for rifts for easy setting/flavor inspiration. A movie or videogame or something. though might be hard to pull off.Like, obviously you have the star wars movie for star wars, Shit like Conan for pulp fantasy, Hell, you even have Blade and buffy for modern Vampires. But I cant really think of a readily accessible piece of pop media that does post apocalyptic gonzo sci-fi fantasy.
>>97869919One movie doesnt encapsulate it completely Buckoroo banzai across the 4th diminsion, +pacific rim+ conan Maybe
>>97869919>>97870315The Tank Girl movie, maybe? Except it was terrible. The comics were much better.
>>97870738The Spectral movie was also a good show of high-tech soldiers fighting supernatural monsters.
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>>97870768>>97870963>>97870966Spectral was excellent. One of my favorite movies.Palladium recently tried to remaster the Rifts: Promise of Power video game, but it failed to meet its funding goals. I think they may have been better off trying to make a new game.
>>97872198I think they did that thinking it would be cheaper. Given how hard it is to get PoP running either a new game or the remake will be wholly new to people.What I think they should not have done is just give up like they did. Go to a different site, try again, got to a dev people might have heard of, or anything else besides just throwing up hands and walking away.
>>97869346Concealed head gun.
It's hard to find a movie that would have all the things that RIFTS(tm) has: supertech, aliens, demons, wizards, dragons, mechs, legendary monsters of every kind, nazi supersoldiers, dinosaurs, space gods. That's part of the appeal of the setting and the game. A movie like that would be 90% CGI and would struggle just to introduce the world within 2 hours, let alone tell a coherent story the exposition putting people to sleep.
>>97875743I think it could be done. I don't know how you introduce such disparate characters but I'm positive it could be done. Make it like the beginning of Star Wars. Hell, it worked for them.
>>97778911Did you make this anon? I cannot find source anywhere.Can we have the full file? Seems to be missing content.
>>97872552>>97872198Yeah the no physical copy option even only a glorified thumb drive was also an issue.The large price tag for a copy of a game that bosted about 30 hours of game play was also an issue.
>>97875743Kung fury?
>>97878276If it wasn't also slapstick comedy, fuck yeah.
>>97875743You could always watch a few episodes of Thundarr the Barbarian. That's what Kevin did right before he created Rifts. Pic related, it has all the elements and was a major inspiration.
>>97878461Throw in some: >Robotech>Bravestarr>Galtar>Blackstar>Inhumanoids>Visionariesand you're all set for the full Rifts experience.
>>97878471And Jack Kirby's Kamandi.
>>97878648Kamandi would be much better if it was it's own universe instead of trying to tie it in with DC heroes
Anyone using Xiticix as enemies?
>>97883161The original Rifts core book convinced me that the Xiticix were supposed to be the primary threat facing America; I didn't know about Splugorth and the Federation of Magic until after the Ultimate Edition was out.I also wondered what they were doing while the siege of Tolkieen was going on.
>>97883499>while the siege of Tolkieen was going onApparently getting fooled by brilliant CS generals who crossed their territory with million-man armies to attack Tolkeen from the rear. Ie, jobbing for some retarded reason.
>>97883528Palladium Games are basically a bunch of comic book geeks they didn't ever really maintain powerscalingevery new book was a chance for K Siembieda to pay some bills that were already due from past projectsI love RIFTS/Palladium and all their authors/artists but as a company Palladium Books was barely held together by the efforts of Siembieda's ex-wife>as for op, get rid of MD/SD+HP it's overly complicated
>>97883548>>as for op, get rid of MD/SD+HP it's overly complicatedSo what everything runs on the same dmg code? A man has 50 A car 2000A tank/robot 40,000Its just big numbers
>>97875743I take inspiration from a lot of mst3k episodes.
>>97883499If I were to think about it I think they effectively were doing nothing and didn't get deemed a big enough threat while the Siege of Tolkieen was going. The Xiti were found out to be non aggressive on a world or dimension until they built up their forces to a point and at that time they attack everything and don't stop until the planet is one giant hive. I forget but I think it was only after the war did dimensional explorers research this and then the CS pulled the stick out long enough to accept that knowledge.
>>97880299I agree with that but I really like the comics where the superheroes are sent to Kamndi's world. But I also dont like it because it implies that the heroes will fail so hard to protect the world that it becomes just silly how messed up it got.
>>97870768>>97870768That movie and BRIGHT were deep background lore but mediocre movies resulting in a good foundation for a franchise that peters out.I suppose I should lamentingly throw Pacific Rim in that pile.
>>97892127The Pacific Rim anime is quite excellent, if you are looking for a bright spot.So is the Godzilla one.My favorite part about Spectrum is that the Rogue Scientist proves himself to be very useful.If you want another mediocre-excellent film that is better than it deserves to be, check out In Time with Justin Timberlake and Amanda Seyfried.
>>97878471Inhumanoids had the most accurate depiction of party dialogue. Those guys were just savage to eachother.
Test bump
>>97878648The first time I came across Timothy Truman's Scout comic, I was like ah, someone at Palladium was clearly reading this back in the day.And of course they worked with him directly on Dimension Book Wormwood.
>>97896582I've never read this before. Thanks for the recommendo, friendo!>https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Scout
Anyone know if Siembieda is planning to retire soon?
There's a thread on /co/ related to Rifts talking about Thundarr, which was one of the inspirations for the game. >>>/co/153221486
>>97901273I know a lot of rifts has a wild west slant but I wonder who here has had games were really like that, dealing with outlaws and sheriffs and bounties.
>>97902755One of the games I'm in is set in the New West and we're dealing with all that.
>>97901246We know he is planning to retire soon but we dont know when. Likely he doesnt either. He's been pretty public about it.
>>97903313>the CS spent 2.3 million to make a stealth skelebot to infiltrate the vampire kingdoms.>Prosek was not impressed by the results
>>97836149I read the Coalition and Juicer books more than any other RPG books when I was a kid. Even more than games I played hundreds of hours more of.Just great setting and faction scope in both.
>>97900177What is this? It looks like the cover for a story but I can't find it.
>>97904830It is the cover for a story, the comic linked to in the same post: >>97900177https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Scout
>>97904682I read the juicer book. An accidental crusade that stopped an accidental invasion and prevented a mass genocidal betrayal.
>>97905645Part of the appeal of Rifts books is that they have an implicit metaplot that you can follow along as you read them but which is not required for running or playing the game. It's an optional goodie that readers can enjoy without the burden of having to memorize or implement it, unlike settings like Forgotten Realms.
>>97875743Mostly hero core.
>>97755809What happened to radio free merctown? it's been taken off of every platform. Anyone have a back up?
>>97875743Most Rifts games don't throw everything at you at once, though, just the elements relevant to the region and the immediate story.There are lots of anime that can hit most of these notes. Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet. Iria: Zeram. One Punch Man. Redline.Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.The Vision of Escaflowne, and the movie.There was one season of Scavengers Reign, an animated series about astronauts stranded on an alien planet that was very good. Then you have more traditional films like Reign of Fire.When you start looking at video games, you start to get even more elements together.>>97905645Juicer Uprising was the first Rifts book I read all the way through; it is what made me fall fully in love with Rifts enough to start my own collection.
>>97908559Up until now I thought that the robot guy and the brain both on the wanted poster and the man had become a cyborg while the brain was always a brain in a jar.
>>97910869Juicer Uprising is such a good, can't say any ill
>>97908559Artist added in gibberish text assuming it would never be visible at a book-cover scale, lol.
>>97875743The 80s TV show Thundarr the Barbarian is pretty much Rifts. If it had came out a year or two later during the 80s robot craze it would have had more mecha in it.https://youtu.be/GpEPuarvePE?si=O6jFzIQg1oDHOa6M
I wish I could be player in rifts someday, being perma GM kinda sucks, the other 2 dudes in my table gm anything but palladium. I JUST WANT MAKE A CHARACTER DAMN IT. Not a 3.5 or pf, not a damn iron kingdoms guy, not Final fantasy pre made.... i want to make a bad ass caster damn it....I want to make uber level caster like a fucking full build shifter allowed to use summons or a necromancer who is allowed to go balls to wall, I want to be a temporal mage that actually is encouraged to fuck with the time flows, anythingIts been 5+years since I was a pc in rifts (mystic knight ogre pretending to be a cyberknight, I was abarent and judged cyber knights for their crimes. It was an aggressive build )Anyhow dont ya hate in any game how little you get paid? "I want you 100 million worth of robots to take out XYZ and ill pay you 3k each" ..... ok cool lets hope they dont take more than 1 eclip to kill or im loosing money.
>>97917063I know that pain.
>>97875743You have literal fucking brainrot
>>97910869>Iria: Zeram.Definitely a phaseworld campaign, although I don't think Phaseworld had a such a doomsday scenario as a virus making a planet hopping horde of mutant monsters that got so bad it just would wash over planets.
>>97917063>I wish I could be player in rifts someday, being perma GM kinda sucks, the other 2 dudes in my table gm anything but palladium. >I JUST WANT MAKE A CHARACTER DAMN IT. Not a 3.5 or pf, not a damn iron kingdoms guy, not Final fantasy pre made.... i want to make a bad ass caster damn it....I want to make uber level caster like a fucking full build shifter allowed to use summons or a necromancer who is allowed to go balls to wall, I want to be a temporal mage that actually is encouraged to fuck with the time flows, anythingIt's why I joined windancer's discord. At least play by post in a chatroom let's me be a player!
>>97884558>I take inspiration from a lot of mst3k episodesAny fruit to declare sir?
>>97917063The economics of Rifts are completely fucked. The average person could retire on the guns and armor from a standard merc or CS encounter. Meanwhile mercs can't even repair the armor damage from 2 firefights without going bankrupt. Shit's fucked.
>>97935417Its not to far from reality except indie murder hobo mercs being viable. If you want good stuff you work for an organization either a nation kingdom or a merc company.I dont really know how much civilians make in Rifts so the large investment large reward dynamic might be the only way to get a lot of creds, unless you want to be a barmaid.
The Coalition is inferiror as a concept to the older Empire of Humanity.There, I've said it.
>>97937410Coalition at least feel justifiable, Empire of Humanity was just cartoonish evil.
>>97937410The empire of humanity having a mutant/super human as their leader is way to cliché like jrpg levels of "the church is actually evil">>97937547The cs has way more of a reason to exist for sure.
>>97939189>The empire of humanity having a mutant/super human as their leader is way to cliché like jrpg levelsIt is, but the ATB Empire needs it. Without superpowers the few 1000 surviving humans wouldn't stand a chance against the hordes of mutant animals at the level of technology and resources they have. They're outnumbered 1,000,000:1. The Rifts CS is different, they aren't that outnumbered and have far more territory, resources, technology and powers (like psionics) to help them. The EoH being technically "mutants" with superpowers also creates an interesting moral conundrum for them since they claim to be "pure" humans but are actually irradiated mutants.
Speaking of AtB, I did make a chatbot of it last year. https://janitorai.com/characters/bb4bdac0-781c-46bd-8552-d06ded884907_character-boopsie-aka-beach-bunny-the-sexy-mechanic-from-the-gun-bunnies
>>97939508lolwut?!? >login requiredNice try, ARCHIE, you almost got me.
>>97939583sorry, buddy, but it's saucy
>>97939508Imma tell your wife on you
>>97939606>She is very exigent in bed. One of the least-sexy sentences ever written.
Does anyone here love the other systems like Ninjas and Superspies, Systems Failure, Heroes Unlimited, Beyond the Supernatural, Dead Reign, ect.I have specifically taken notice of the magazine pouches, webbing, survival gear. Some of them even had all kinds of hot and cold weather clothing, police jump suits, commando sweaters and the whole shebang.I don't think any other systems are quite like it? Also why is Heroes Unlimited the system that has the survival clothing and not the post apoc, military, or survivalist settings?
>>97943997I like N&SS and After The Bomb but have had bad experiences with Dead Reign and Heroes Unlimited. The martial arts in N&SS are great - if sometimes a little illogical - and the superspy gadgets are very neat but very 1980s-tech so require updating to the 2020s. Or at least the 2000s. Loved the Gizmoteer when I was younger, spent a lot of hours making various gizmo builds.
>>97944021The martial arts are like all made up mostly and don't even reflect the styles in like Jackie Chan movies. I was rather disapppointed.I find that like.. yuck, Cyberpunk 2020 or Shadowrun have better options.Considering N&SS doesn't have any glocks or Beretta 92s, I wonder if it's set in the 1970s and not the 1980s when it was written?
>>97943997Heroes Unlimited was my go to super rpg back in my middle-high school years. I assume the lack of those it's another one of Kevin "gamemasters will figure out" with the other stuff already out.
>>97944207I mean he has a classic habit of including mention of the fantasy fairy food in Heroes Unlimited, because he copied and pasted the description from Palladium Fantasy.
>>97943997My game is built on the chassis of TMNT&OS with a layer of N&SS and a some elements of BtS and HU. I prefer the earlier editions. I'm not a big fan of the PPE magic system in the hands of PCs.Set in an alternate 1985 I call it The Kung Fu Furry Parapolitical Thriller No One Asked For
>>97939606>Exigent in bedWhat? She likes to bleed in bed? That's much darker than I anticipated
>>97945716'Exigent' means very excited but it's a dumb word for foreplay.
>>97935417Magic is better in that regard. Everything is is free as long as you have the capacity to hold the PPE and time to absorb it. I suppose thats why I see Mystic Knights being so popular as they are the only magic class that are straight up amoral mercenaries. All the other mages are supposed to believe in the pursuit of knowledge or peace or enlightenment or other sissy things.
>>97945726>dissing magic enlightenment
I put all the tokens I've made up so to a google drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VNRnE1dFgf_4DkBeOfYKpOWV2p9ONHbF
>>97756833Savage Rifts is so much more playable, I'll have to check this new book our.
>>97760942You hate them for being smart?
>>97945739Given how much magic in this system is about mental willpower and conviction, pursuing enlightenment is like knowing how a gun works when you're a marksman. Enlightenment is very important because it has a tangle use to the mage.I suppose thats also why Mystic Knights are PPE vampires or vaccuums. They are all assholes without eighteenth so they they have to suck the PPE ro use it.
To the dude saying he would regularly kill Spurlgoth within 3 rounds, you are full of shit.
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>>97943983>>97945716>>97945722From Merriam-Webster: "Exigent" in bed describes a situation, need, or person that is highly demanding, pressing, or requires immediate attention. It implies an urgent, non-negotiable requirement—such as intense physical discomfort, an emergency situation, or a partner's urgent need—that must be addressed instantly.So...yeah.>>97943997Huge fan of Nightspawn/bane. Think it works well with BtS and Chaos Earth.Also see Systems Failure and Splicers being two sides of the same coin.Ninjas & Superspies is a great addition to any game.>>97944207Heroes Unlimited was the first TTRPG I owned, gifted to me by my best friend at the time.
>>97948353I forget, are the splurgoth the giant tentacle faced guys or worms in jars?
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>>97951867IIRC, the vampire intelligences look similar, too.And the Splugorth and Vampire Intellegences aren't the only massive threats on Rifts Earth. You also have the Gargoyle Empire/Empire of Monsters, the Lord of the Deep mentioned upthread, the Xiticix, and others. I think it is cannon the force behind the zombies in Dead Reign is multidimensional, as there is a book specifically for using cyber zombies with Rifts/Chaos Earth. Probably new ones in books I haven't even read.
>>97951345Pretty much every super powerful supernatural evil is a tentacle monster. Vampire Intelligences, Alien Intelligences, etc.
>>97953573Mechanoids!
>>97755809I too, sometimes miss middleschool.
>>97794733Space jews combined wirh the worst aspects of Sony.
>>97801032I bought em for the art at first.
>>97903313Shame they made Arizona kinda gay.
>>97910869Juicer uprising has one of the best infantry rifles in the game.
>>97939189Running and playing in a straight CS campaign with the goal of restoring the American Empire was great fun.
>>97951867I built one of these guys in Spore. Was wonderful to see them rampage across friends planets.
>>97954385I would say Naruni gear works better than Sony.
>>97954436And then they put a grenade launcher on it!
>>97954636Ikr? Its unreal how good it its. Reasons to love splat books. Why pick anything else?
>>97954624I meant Sony more in terms of their proprietary interfaces, marketing language, price point and asthetics. Their gear is good stuff but you for most earth based campaigns you'll lack the logistical base to support it. Still, love the derringer and force fields.
>>97954853>>97954636>be mega juicer>combine with WI-GL20>everything dies
>>97954889And I bet naruni would cancel your login ID if you didn't use it in 30 days, to boot!
>>97956444trips of truth, gotta keep consuming those plasma batteries
What is everyone's favorite Palladium line, current or past, to use with Rifts?For me, it is Nightbane/spawn, but that is my favorite line.Additionally, does anyone have any experience using Micro Platinum?
>>97960835>Micro PlatinumI've used it. I was a contributor in the thread it was created in. rpg.net I think. In the ancient times when it wasn't a complete loss.I think it's fine for what it does. Broadening the modfier range for stats was a good move. I'm not too fond of character focus. It feels redundant when RCC/OCCs are still the core of the character. Everything else is just streamlining. I don't like HtH styles being flattened either. One of the reason I like Palladium is because of the distinct combat style. And Drama Points aren't my style. I'd rather just use push or flip-flops than introduce a meta-currency.
>>97961814I thought the Drama Points were odd, too. I would think if you were going to do something akin to that, as you said, a push-your-luck mechanic would fit the game better.So what's your favorite setting to fold into Rifts?
>>97962003I'm not really into Rifts. This >>97944258 is me.I played some Rifts in the 90s and enjoyed it. As a perpetual GM I don't find the excess very appealing though. I'd probably play it again if the opportunity arose, I do love me some Psi Stalkers, but there's already a homebrew techno-fantasy multiverse living in my head if I have the urge to run that kind of game.
>>97960835>What is everyone's favorite Palladium line, current or past, to use with Rifts?Splicers. I've played Heroes Unlimited for over a decade or two but Splicers clicks with me.>Micro PlatinumI have no idea what that is.
>>97962203Fair. Sounds fairly kitchen sink on its own.I also remember a time when RPG.Net wasn't a raging political arena dumpster fire, and people simply talked about games.>>97962347Splicers is pretty interesting. I think it works well with Systems Failure.Micro Platinum is a 5-page fan-made distillation and minor tweaking of the Palladium Megaversal System. It was designed to smooth out the rough spots and make conversion between lines easier. Have a link: https://gofile.io/d/9c2SNE
>>97963808>I also remember a time when RPG.Net wasn't a raging political arena dumpster fireBefore 2012, eh? Long, long ago. Are the Forums of the Megaverse still going? Last time I checked a year or two back they seemed almost dead.
>>97966320NTA but there's like fifteen of us. It takes a week to get a response sometimes
>>97966967Jesus. I remember when the place was swarming with hundreds of Pallytards. Are you saying that this thread on 4chan of all places runs faster than the official forums now?!?
>>97851511I think Dark Day would not go well... for the Night Lords... if it came to Rifts Earth.Though it would be interesting if it turned out that a lot of Coalition humans were Nightbane all along.
>>97967071Seems like everyone is going to discord now although there are only like three pally discord as far as I know.
>>97970023Well, yeah. People in Rifts have more defenses in places against paranormal threats. The big threat would be the mirror doppelgangers if they can replace people secretly but again people could just as well he is controlled by a vampire or an evil mage or one of the several other shape shifters on Rifts Earth... as they club the guy with a neuro mace shouting "shaper no shape!" A mantra they thought they heard in a bar to make shape changers change back.
>>97970023>>97971048Again, I said I think it would be far more interesting than the Minion War.Yes, psi-stalkers and dog boys would sniff many of the Nightlords minions out, pronto. Which is why they would start corrupting human agents as they did on modern Earth. Onserve through mirrors, move through them, bypassing checkpoints via the Nightlands, pop up, take what they want, and disappear.Nightbane/spawn is a way more interesting wrinkle. Especially when the psychics can't sniff out the Nightbane in their facades.
>>97970896Three? o_O I only know of the one official one. Which are the other two?
>>97970023I will always push for the absolutely stupid(genius) idea that Prosek is an Astral Lord
>>97970896Fuck discord. Its too fractured & insular
>>97975367Yes, but it does have bot features and voice chat
>>97975363Sure, why not? Does ruin his human supremacy ideology and gives him a great old fuck you escape mechanism. Kevin would heartily approve.
>>97960835Palladium Fantasy is ny favorite line.Its so well written, its big but not rifts or phase world big (phase world is my 2nd favorite line btw).
>>97971687Oh yes, infinitely. Minion war, as I interpret it, is basically every Buffy episode where a character gets possessed by a demon so there is a dramatic turn around where the actor is now wearing the enlarged demon forehead makeup. Thats it, thats minion war. A Dark Day event on Ridts would at least be a very intense 3 days where they are trying as aggressively as possible to take over the world but also as discretely as possible. So you have clones and bug men trying to take out officials as well as other demons but they are also either retreating when enough people notice or try to kill all witnesses.
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