Previous >>97735584>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What do you think of Grandeur?
I like it a lot, too bad he's useless in commander.
Grandeur was exploring an interesting design space (legendaries that encourage people to run multiple copies), but people were already running multiple copies of high value legendaries anyway, and discarding a mediocre legendary to get some middling effect from a mediocre legendary is not really as valuable as just having a good legendary and a backup copy in case the current one ate dirt.I can understand their caution with the ability, but making weak legendaries that needed to draw into extra copies just to get abilities on par with legendaries that you didn't need to jump through hurdles for is a self-defeating mechanic.While it was neat that Tarox could win you the game by jumping out, discarding 3 copies, and hitting for 32, that's very much the definition of a Timmy-style Christmas land play.
>>97756322Sorry anon but the most interesting wotc can do now is print a 2 drop mythic that generates enough mana and card draw to replace itself while also advancing the board state massively
>Pov: You're playing blue
>>97756356Tbf that's pretty fun, inviting, replayable and exciting
LOL DEAD GAME
>bounces all tokens in the field for freeWhat now gafots?
>>97756410Only bounces an infinite number of tokens with no cmc albeit
Bend the knee to the queen of mono green.
>>97756379Mono blue is actually big dick energy chad strategy. Noobs are too dumb to make it work, people who are bad at the game seethe and tilt all day long when playing against a draw-go blue mage.
Say something nice about the lead game designer of Magic: the Gathering
>>97756322There weren't much high value legendaries in those days. The fact Dralnu got a deck named after him was notable because it was designed around a legend, and the only notable legends (outside Jitte, but that's not a creature) was Akroma, Spirit of the Night (the original Akroma), and Lin-Siivi
>>97756554Rosewater outranks him fyi
>>97756561Dont forget Rorix Bladewing!
I wanna build pic related but the party mechanic seems pretty weak. Should I just basically ignore most of the sorceries that care about a full party and replace them with changlings?
>>97756554>lead designerOutrage tourist pls go and stay go
>>97756560>Fake ass for a fake scenario Terrible
>>97756561>Lin-SiiviI miss the days when counter rebels was considered a powerful deck
>>97756568>>97756600>Gavin Verhey (born March 29, 1990) is an American game designer. He is the Principal Magic: The Gathering Designer at Wizards of the Coast.
>>97756601>t. homo
>>97756608Rosewater has been Head Designer since 2003
>>97756598>but the party mechanic seems pretty weak.no? has plenty of fun and good support cards.
>>97756598The Esper Jetmir, but not as good
>>97756608Anon you're embarrassing yourself
>>97756598Coveted Prize, Thwart the Grave and Spoils of Adventure are good enough. The rest of the Party matters non-permanents are just barely above rate with a full party and you're better off using the normal version of their effects. Changelings are good.
>>97756191>TQ: What do you think of Grandeur?top ten commander betrayals.
>>97756322Grandeur is a fun draft mechanic because it allows you to draft several of the same legendary and still get some effect without sacrificing the copy you already have. Specially now with below rare legendaries.
>>97756724Anon you're a troon
Literally what are you supposed to do against this once the player has a board of creatures and has ramped enough to cast + WUBRG Leo and any kind of board state of creatures? They just endlessly get all their life back while killing everybody. I can't believe an ability of this power wasn't given a tap cost.
>>97756844
>>97756844playing any kind of interaction?
>>97756844wow it was so hard
>>97756835>anyone that proves me wrong is a troonYou're just as mentally ill as them clearly
>>97756844When exactly did you start playing this game sir?
>>97756844You stop the token player before he plays a billion token creators and then shells out 3WWURBG to put some tokens on his shit. For 2 more mana then this you can HARDCAST Omniscience and win the game. What the fuck are you doing? What the fuck is your deck? Are you running Swords to Plowshares and literally no other interaction whatsoever?
>>97756867You will never be a woman
>>97756844Should've interacted with it 4 turns ago.
>>97756855Leo's ability is instant speed and unaffected by summon sickness. There is no opportunity to remove him after he enters and activates if they have sufficient mana to do both. Then say you remove him? Player survives the turn cycle due to lifelink, then recasts and WUBRGs again on their next turn.
>>97756882>it's not even I always have it anymore>it's you should've had it 4 turns ago now
>>97756835Way to prove them right, tourist.
Refer to the chart for all your worries.
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>>97756894What the fuck am I reading? Turtle costs 4 mana. What kind of board are you facing where a 4-mana, turn 5 board-wide menace trample lifelink is a problem? Just take the hit. Once he becomes a problem, you either board wipe or remove Leonardo. This is a (You) problem, not a problem with the card. If you are complaining that he kills you with 9 invested mana, you need a reality check. 9 mana should win you the game.
>>97756929Look, usually I'm against just play removal, but that's against threats that come out t1-3 and need immediate removal. That shit is way more telegraphed and can be dealt with in numerous ways during mid game. Boardwipes exist for stuff like this.
>>97756948>doesnt post anything himselfnow this is the edhg I know
>>97756962TOO LAZY
>>97756948My least scaring the hoes deck
>>97756988THIS WOULD GET SLAUGHTERED AT B4 BUMP DOWN TO B3 AND WE'RE COOL
>>97756988This is not bracket 4 even if you add all fast mana rocks and jeska's will.
>>97756554Gigi Wellplayed is a fucking fantastic drag name.
>>97756876Yes and thank god for that!
>>97756948Is this approved?
>>97757055SLOP
>>97757064:(
>>97757055based
>>97756598it's flying men.decthere's plenty of unblockable rogues and wizards and utility in clerics and wizards.the dream curve is something like faerie seer, nimble trapfinder, frontline medic, warrior. half your deck is the party precon.
>>97756948https://moxfield.com/decks/jc0aIqSq8kG-33ugcMmkkQ
>>97756844its literally a once a turn ability for the 1st one and the other ability costs 5 specific color mana. Why would it need to tap. Once you use it once you arent activating it again that turn
>>97757106YOU MAY PROCEEDBUT THIS IS BASICALLY BRACKET 2
>>97756554>why is modern magic card designs so grim???it's baffling
>>97756532for me it's the jap princess
>>97756853See I thought single-target removal was bad in EDH, especially when it's not versatile in what it can target. I'm afraid of loading up on answers that end up being silver bullets weighing down my hand, how do I reconcile this?
>>97757132DECK BUILDS ITSELF BUT IT'S FAIR MAGICPROCEED
>>97757122confirmed for washing Tifa's feet btw
>>97756948
I feel like it's extremely unfair that I have to learn how to BUILD a deck before I can learn how to PLAY the game at a reasonable level. This disproportionately effects people like me in vulnerable demographic groups. WOTC needs to start making more powerful preconstructed decks for this format and all other formats whilst keeping the cost of that product low.
>>97756948this retard deck stomped so many tables
>>97756948>AIslop bannernice try, bot
>>97757199>WOTC needs to start making more powerful preconstructed decks for this format and all other formats whilst keeping the cost of that product low.I don't think anyone but collectorfags would actually oppose them printing viable modern and standard decks and selling them for the price of a commander precon.
>>97757203>core cardsis this 'dudes lifting their hands' tribal
>pod contains my best friend and his brother in law>they ALWAYS team up even when it's clear that one of them can stomp the other once it's down to the two of them>multiple times they've said they barely care who wins once it's down to just them, they'll even shortcut games after a couple turns of board parity because "it's boring to slug it out like that" (this is when one of them doesn't just concede or throw to make the kingmaking even more explicit)What do
>>97756635You're attracted to silicone
>>97757232Simply kill them at the same time every time
>>97756948>cant choose printings for core cardsCompletely useless website Forcing me to look at the new saffi art is a sin.
>>97756894>If you let the opponent build up a large board of creatures and then spend NINE FUCKING MANA unopposed to buff them and turn sideways to swing at your face without multiple blockers you die this wouldn't be impressive in 2008 let alone fucking 2026, do you have any conception of how much power untapping with nine fucking mana represents? Let alone 9 mana AND a full board?
>>97757229kek good catch
>>97756948Banned from what? Life? Almost acceptable terms.
>>97756948I messed up the title, I call it "Feudalism Simulator"
>>97756844>spend nine mana to cast and activate a shittier craterhoof behemoth>do nothing >die next turn while tapped outwow that was really hard
>>97757183BASED BAD COMMANDER ENJOYERAPPROVED>>97757203GENERICBUT APPROVED>>97757268THERE'S NO WAY THAT TREVA IS DOING ANYTHING BUTAPPROVED>>97757278BRACKET 4 SUCKS AND THIS IS GETTING DESTROYED IN IT>>97757295BABY'S FIRST COUNTER DECK BUT LOW-POWEREDPROCEED
This guy a meme or can a fun deck be built around em
>>97757305Treva is very good at SPIKE DIES!
All of the "reveal cards off the top of your library until X condition" cards should be condensed to a keyword, I made a fake card as a proof of concept. This way WOTC has a lot more room to print "Do this only once per turn" and "Activate only as a sorcery" on cards!
>>97757313He's not as good as the regular jellybean, but he can be fun. He requires you to lean heavily into WUBRG spells that you can semi-cheat out with his ability. Ideally you want spells that are 3CMC in 3 colors so you can play them for free. You can also go the alt route and just bank up all the mana as black mana to slam with after a few turns.
>>97757347I support it, but the problem with keywords is that you need a variation for effects that put the unused card to your graveyard, or put the card you find directly to the battlefield, or exile them, or a combination of different resolutions. Then people may confuse the keywords (see: Madness and Mayhem).
>>97756948This is my favorite deck
>>97757386There are fewer of those in the colors I care about than just putting them on the bottom, so I'm working to the majority here
>>97756948I started making this because my friend loves Final Fantasy VIII and I wound up really enjoying the playstyle.
>>97757305>AND THIS IS GETTING DESTROYED IN ITNot in my experience playing it, but I'll be on the look out.
>>97756948I really enjoy thallids.
Do you guys have particular "red flags" when looking at netdecks for inspiration? Like instant signs the brewer is a moron and you should probably stay away from anything they're suggesting?>browsing moxfield for (insert commander name) decks>sort by most views, click top result>32 lands (35 with MDFC)>click off, repeat
>>97757548>32 lands, 35 MDFC is bad for a deck with a low curveThis is a redflag for (you)
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97757268>>97757487>>97757497SNC was based.
>>97757602Any deck that wants to play at least 5 lands without missing a turn mathematically must run 40, including MDFCs. This is on top of having a ramp suite. I will not argue facts with you.>but floodingAdd draw. run permanents with mana sink abilities.
>>97757548>Marked as a casual bracket 2 build of the deck>Costs over $1000
>>97757548>Excessive tutors>poor tutor targets>any mention of content creators in the about section >anything tagged competitive>bad puns or references in the name of the deck The last one is the hardest to nail down but you know someone lacks creativity when you see certain deck names, especially anything with "Boogaloo" in the title.
>>97756948My favorite "Im here to fuck around" deck
>>97757376BASED COMMANDER CRINGE STRATPLAY BIG COOL SPELLS INSTEAD>>977573935C IS SLOP BUT YOU'RE TRYINGPROCEED>>97757429FF IS STUPID BUT THE DECK IS DOING WHAT NO ONE ELSE WILL AND PLAYING REMOVALAPPROVED>>97757487COOL COMMANDERDREAM HALLS IS ULTRA-LINEAR AND THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY THIS IS BRACKET 2>>97757497APPROVED NO NOTES>>97757682KILL YOURSELF PRICE IS NOT A MEANINGFUL INDICATOR OF POWER AND I COULD CRUSH YOUR BALLS WITH A $25 DECK>>97757730FUN-APPROVED
>Play with randos at my LGS>Infinite Landfall>Infinite combat>Infinite shutdown>Meanwhile I'm playing a deck with a theoretical one sided board wipe and gravesteal if I draw a card at a 45 degree angle on a third sunday with a non-recursive time on the clock and the store owner farted within the last 3.33 minutes and mercury is in retrograde or some BULLSHIT
>>97757755>PLAY BIG COOL SPELLS INSTEADI play huge spells in this deck, look at the list!
>>97757773I DONT KNOW HOW TO READ A QR CODE
>>97757122Relegated to Tifa's footwasher and mistress of her privy chambers. Lunra is Tifa's pet
motherfuckers really do be supporting ai art botnet pages that track their every moveyes, I'm mad
>>97757772People will tell you to get a pod of friends where you can communicate deck strength without any social pressure, but I want you to know that you'll still encounter the same thing. commit to the arms race or accept that you're gonna lose. A lot.
>>97757671Based old-school EDH deck-builder.
>>97757671wrong. you don't even know how to do the math.
>>97757671Anti-based dinosaur deck builder. It's only worth playing 40+ lands if you're running a strategy based around lands in some way.
>>97757037I'm literally a troon fag that hates drag and that put a smile on my big stupid face
>>97756191Which youtubers should/shouldn't I listen to as a new player?
>>97757944EDH replay channels with less than 10k subs are basically the only thing worth watching without being directly advertised to or propagandized. A large amount of creators are actively bad or at least so lost in the sauce that they end up giving advise so narrow that it will make you worse at the game.
>>97756844It's a >Timmy freaks out because he filled his deck up with goodstuff and didn't include his interaction vegetablesepisode
>>97756574I also forgot Isamaru and Autumn Willow/Ihsan's Shade, though they were only relevant their appropriate standard.
>>97756859>>97758031>play picrels>let's charitably assume the 5c sloppa doesn't have it(tm) and cant protect their board>now my board is gone too, I'm 4 mana behind any other plays I'm able to make this turn>everyone at the table hates me and will certainly try to kill me once they rebuildI'm not being stupid on purpose, these symmetrical boardwipes seem legitimately inadvisable and I don't know why they're staples
>>97758031This happens so much and I dont know why. Even in a combat focused go wide deck im gonna run a wipe like damn or farewell; if its cant punch through the boards boardstate I'll reset it.You can go hyper good stuff if you at least include protection for key pieces. Teferis protection, mithril coat, etc.
>>97757889BASEDAPPROVED>>97757907THIS GUY TAKES REALLY LONG TURNS AND DOES NOTHING OR JUST COMBOS AND WINS THE GAME IN MY EXPERIENCEBUT HE'S OK PROCEED>>97757971I DESPISE THIS FUCKING CARD BECAUSE IT DOES THREE DISTINCT THINGS WITH AN EGREGIOUS LACK OF REMINDER TEXTBUT THE DECK ITSELF IS JUST G/W STUFF SO PROCEED
>>97758092>CEDH>"FRINGE" CEDH THAT JUST LOSES TO REAL CEDHNOT APPROVED
>>97758073So not only does he have a full board. Spends wubrg to activate this ability, he still has enough mana to play protection. Looks like nobody was doing anything besides that player. Well done. He would've won with anything. A 1/1 tokens would've been enough. 120 turns. Killing all of his opponents 1 damage at a time. Since his opponents aren't doing anything
Every time I post a combo everyone always calls it gay and boring. Not combos, but those combos specifically. What are some combos that aren't gay and boring?
>>97758126>tap creature>attack>opponent goes to 0 life>I win
>>97756948Officer im not drunk im good to drive dont worry
>>97757548>tutorsMost brainlet crutch cards in the game. A sure sign the deck builder is a faggot. Deck immediately discarded.>infinite/effectively infinite combosMost brainlet win con. Deck immediately discarded.>high power game changer staples like tor or rhysticBuilder is a shitter who has to rely on broken cards. Discarded.>sol ringDiscarded.
>>97758152You could've had me if not for your retarded tutor spiel.
>>97758152>picIs that supposed to be a Futurama reference?
>>97757961>watch command zone>a player can exile a graveyard at instant speed >a player starts putting stuff from his graveyard into play>waits for him to resurrect a couple of things before exiling his gy instead of doing it at the start in response Such a retarded show. Which is obviously scripted. Badly scripted. Rachel Weeks probably came up with it
>>97756948Horde of Notions has trample and thus does not need your permission to pass.
>>97758118Read it again more carefully. I'm saying those things will happen even if the WUBRG player does lose his board along with everyone else
>>97758102>THIS GUY TAKES REALLY LONG TURNS AND DOES NOTHING OR JUST COMBOS AND WINS THE GAME IN MY EXPERIENCELiterally makin' Anje jiggle her booty until I get ifnir and then jiggle it until my opponent no longer has a board
>>97758141Greasefang is so cool I wish rats driving cars was real
>>97758031>mfw esper control>mfw my entire deck is interaction>mfw I say "counterspell" and "destroyed" as often as my enemies blink
>>97758141IF YOU CAN PILOT THIS DECK WITH A MODICUM OF SKILL IT PROBABLY RAPES YOUR AVERAGE BRACKET 2 PLAYERPROCEED BUT I'VE GOT MY EYE ON YOU>>97758218YOUR SECONDARY GAMEPLAN IS ALWAYS BEAT PEOPLE TO DEATH WITH YOUR COMMANDERAPPROVEDCONSIDER SIMIC SABER>>97758222SHE WAS BORING IN 2010 COMMANDER, SHE'S BORING NOWBUT AT LEAST SHE'S NOT FIRE DESIGNED TRASHPROCEED>>97758238REMOVAL CHECK COMMANDER WHO IS WAY COOLER IN THE 99DO NOT PASS GO
>>97758261Ew, a furfag tourist.
One of these came in that shitty 2 card booster in my bello precon. It with wildsear and/or raiding schemes is really activating the timmy part of my brain.
>>97758354Bouncer, get this hothead outta here!
>>97758354Bait or retardation; call it
>>97758073>I over extended to my own wipe I knew I always had(tm) and now I'm madclassic
>>97758393It's obviously bait, basically the modern version of pic rel
>>97756948I couldn't list all the different things I can hit you with, so I just picked the funniest one.
>>97756191GRANDEUR????????????? Holy fuck deep cut
>>97756948My body is ready, yours is not
>>97756948I'm excited for Mathemagics
Boy I sure can't wait for another thread to be spammed full of these fucking things! especially the ones with no decklist
>>97758412Never underestimate how dumb people can be. Especially since we're currently in American Hours.
>>97758452Bro it's madness if there's a card with madness printed on it it's in the deck.
>>97758309>cooler in the 99Tried that at first using Rune Tail as commander as a source of "indestructible" to pair with the pariahs and LP in the 99. Felt like I was just bullshitting it most of the time so I said fuck it put an actual wincon in the command zone.I'll swap them around if I'm playing with a bunch of other bullshitting decks that just want to sit at the table and do nothing for several hours.
>have Near Death Experience out>everyone is magically tapped out, no activated abilities on the table for dealing damage>cast Fire Covenant on the end step before my turn begins, paying all but 1 lifeI've had this combo in this deck for over 10 years and I finally pulled it off I'm so happy bros. Every time I've drawn both cards someone pings me in response to Fire Covenant
>>97758452Pretty much every top 500 commander builds itself>Card, Payoff of Selfmill>hmm how do I build this
>>97756948Was my first precon and I like tracking dumbshit
Probably my favorite deck I've ever built. Rolling dice and enjoy my rides just tingles the 'tism in such a wonderful way
>>97758354KYS>>97758424WHITE RETARD VOLTRON ISN'T VERY INTERESTING, BUT IS ALWAYS A PASSPROCEED>>97758444RESPECTABLE IF NOT FOR BEING BRACKET 1 WHICH IS FOR HUGBOX COWARDSYOU NEED TO JUST PLOP YOUR DECK INTO A HIGHER BRACKET POD AND ACCEPT YOUR HIPSTER POINTS AS YOU GET YOUR FACE BEATEN IN>>977584492013-2014 EXPAT-ASS COMMANDERSTILL JUST AS STRONG, STILL JUST AS GENERICPROCEED BUT YOU'RE TOFU-FLAVORED>>97758520BRACKET 3 PILE THAT EVOKES NO STRONG OPINIONS IN MEPROCEED>>97758531ATTRACTIONS ARE ONE OF THE FEW WAYS I WOULD NOT ROLL MY EYES AT THIS GENERIC FUCKING GUYAPPROVED>>97758550BASEDAPPROVED DESPITE GAME-RUINING POTENTIAL
>>97758452Yeah, it's boxing out all the good discussion ITT!like uhuhhhUHHMMM
>>97756542im actually mind blown when people lose to any variation of blue other than hyperspecific meta type situations. blue always seems like the cope color where you either build it into the top end meta or its basically nonfunctional.its even more pronounced in commander, where blue is often a hinderance.
>>97758601Heh I built Saskia ball lightning tribal focusing on double strike/doubling power, but damn Orfeo sounds like he'd be a way better commander for the idea
>>97758561>PROCEED BUT YOU'RE TOFU-FLAVOREDFair criticism. I'm a simple man, I enjoy drawing cards by the fistful and making many very big baby hydras.
>>97758644Good news, you can do that with nearly any simic commander printed
>>97758601I had the most incredible game with orfeo against a lifegain deck once>serra ascendant t1 drop>sol ring start for me>we both start to throw punches at each other>every point of life he gets, I take away again with a swing>he has the +1 counter enchantment on the ascendant, plus some protection >pumps it up to 24/24, threatening lethal next turn>build up a some 32/32 trample attack myself and then topdeck a chandra's ignition, killing the entire table on t5>meanwhile, the other two friends just sat there silently for the entire time>on of them quietly goes "what just happened..."
>>97758651Sure but mana storing is my favorite mechanic and I like the flavor of Kruphix more than most other simic stuff. I used to have Omnath 1.0 built too and I've been considering building Ozai to do it in rakdos as well.
>>97758561>Rating ever deck in this most boring and bland way possible>Didn't offer up his own shitKys/10
>>97756532I’m a simple man, I see someone playing green, I cast Acid Rain
>>97758853based
>>97758805no no anon, people LOVE this slop. let's keep posting because there is nothing better to discuss about and never will!
>>97758601BALL LIGHTNING ALWAYS GETS THE PASSAPPROVED>>97758694COOL GOAL COMMANDER MADE AGGRESSIVELY BORING BY AGGRESSIVE COMBOAT LEAST YOU'RE IN YOUR CONTAINMENT BRACKETNOT APPROVED>>97758731DONG APPROVED BUT YOUR CORE CARDS MAKE IT CLEAR THIS DECK PLAYS THE SAME A LOT OF THE TIME>>97758802FUN CARD BUT YOUR FOCUS ON ADAPTATION EFFECTS MAKES IT LESS EXCITING AND MORE SNOWBALL-ORIENTED THAN IT COULD BEPROCEED BUT DO YOUR HOMEWORK>>97758805COMPLAINING WILL NOT GET YOUR DECK ON THE APPROVAL LIST>>97758847>RULE 0>BRACKET 1INTO THE TRASH YOU GO
>>97758882>THIS DECK PLAYS THE SAME A LOT OF THE TIMENot really, it depends on which etb creatures it draws. Can do anything from ramping with sad robotm taking over opponents creatures, run through the undercity or going for a burn win with Dong, Terror or Fanatic
>>97758853I call you a nigger at instant speed
>>97758912THE AI IS NEVER WRONG
>>97758943>AI
>>97758912MAYBE I MISSPOKE. HAVING BUILT SOMETHING SIMILAR BEFORE, PLAYING THIS ARCHETYPE IN THAT COLOR BOTTLENECKS YOUR OPTIONS SEVERELY. THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY MEANINGFUL DECKBUILDING DECISIONS THAT DON'T AMOUNT TO GIMPING ONE'S SELF FOR IRONY'S SAKE.
>>97758957you really couldn't tell by the banner image of the site?
>>97758853Incredibly bad drawing. Jesus Christ
So hyped to run this nazguls.
>>97759002You enter everything yourself, no AI involved
>>97759124>you give your traffic and data to the bots for free all by yourself! that means they didn't use AI to make the front page picyeah, that's definitive kellogg's proofs right there
>>97758876I think we should argue about UB instead
>partner commander player cyc rifts on my combat step>before attackers>i flash out pic rel and greaves, exile opponents archon of cruelty>scoops so I can't copy it>call him the biggest faggot I've ever seen>entire table is upset that I'm homophobic>as if I care if he even sucks dicks
Do you like Frogs anon?
>>97759212>like lifegain>hate +1 counters and aristocratspain
>>97756948It would work ten times better with a dozen other commanders, including a half dozen that are in the deck. But, Razia keeps everyone guessing as to what my strategy could be while I struggle to figure it out myself after the "Get the Buster Sword" plan inevitably goes tits up.It's fun to play because the cards just have a lot of inherent synergy and it can quickly go from mild to overwhelming the moment anyone relaxes. And, if I've survived long enough, nothing feels quite as good as hitting people with Razia after she''s been ignored for the entire game.
>>97759212helga and flubs yeah
>>97759212the black soul sister
>>97756948Congrats on getting everyone to do this.
>>97759383THANK YOU. I GOT SOME VALUABLE TRAFFIC DATA OUT OF YOU
>>97759261Decklist? I'm sure yours is very similar to my Gisela deck. Razia is old-school cool.https://archidekt.com/decks/14973620/gisela_blade_of_goldnight_aggro
>>97758073>now my board is gone toohey moron did you even read Sunfall?also as the other anon said, if you have a wipe you then simply choose not to add to your board very much if at all
Why is this based card banned exactly?
>Open a precon>Take out a card>Put in TORYep. Fuck brackets.
>>97758365>>97758393I don't get it.
>Open a precon>Take out a card>Put in ShahrazhadYep. Fuck banlists.
>>97759742It really shouldn't be, was just a reactionary response to the general "we can depict bad things but they have to be beyond a certain realism level or people get uncomfortable" i.e. why Murder, stab wounds, burn at the stake, etc. are fine but Rape or Racism aren't okay.but now they're stuck because unbanning it would be a notable thing that doesn't have good PR, even if they were to try and spin it as "we have a better understanding of cultural nuance and it's not a bad word".
>Open a precon>Take out a cardYep. Fuck deck construction rules.
>Open a precon>Take out the commander>Drop it on the floorYep. Fuck.
>Open a precon>Add in an extra cardYep. Fuck the one hundred cards rule
>>97756948I've considered swapping to the Emperor of Palamecia or Ral, but Veyran can get nutty power and that pleases me.
>>97757235Yes and?
>Buy the World Shaper precon>Leave it as is so you can say it's Bracket 1 (unmodified precon theme) and be justified in stomping other Bracket 1 decks
>>97757235This general thinks proxies are real cards. They love fake shit here
>>97756844>Literally what are you supposed to doI shit in my hand and begin throwing it at people while screeching like a demon. Every now and then the word "TURTLES!" can be heard rising from my throat like the souls of the damned from tartarus
>Open a precon>Put 3 extra copies of sol ring inYep, fuck not having fast mana
>>97759742Jihad paints our middle eastern friends as villains in the current day, while they currently are in the process of carrying out jihads.Its pretty retarded to be honest, its banned along with most of cards from that set because "bad fee-fees." That's it, just woke censorship despite literally 0 people outside of the ones who look to be upset (and ironically, don't even play the game) would be upset about them.The worst is Invoke Prejuice, its unironically a great card that would see a lot of play in commander if they just reprinted it with different art.
>>97757548I don’t look at netdecks because I’m not brain dead. Just use Gemini or scryfall search to fill the gaps you’re missing
>>97759988>I don’t look at netdecks>I’m not brain dead>Just use AI
Why this white fox is satisfying yet simple to use? It just works and for real is not boring at all
>>97760042I prefer the big badonkers version of her.
>>97759987I wanted this card ever since I found out about it, but I've never seen it for sale, except online and it was always prohibitively expensive. I think it was more expensive than an Underground Sea back in 2011.
>>97759210smarter thing to do is just say you have an archon anyways and that you dont care if he says he scooped.
>>97760042she's a voltron commander that's viable in B3
>>97760009Yeah ask the AI to search the data base for X cards that does Y for Z mana or less in N color. You can do this manually on Scryfall as well but AI is faster and it’s takes 2 seconds to verify the card is A: Not a Hallucination and B: is close you what you’re looking forRetard, learn how to use tools. You would be like the chimp saying the other monke with a stone hammer-like object was dumb for using a tool instead of his fist
>>97756948Its a fun little one
>>97760091>using AI for a task that can be done with 10 seconds of mental labour on any number of mtg search sitesRetarded or Indian; call it.
>>97759192I'VE SEEN THIS COMMANDER LIKE THREE TIMES NOW FROM THREE DIFFERENT PLAYERS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN HER POP OFF BECAUSE I ALWAYS JUST KILL HER ON SIGHTPROCEED BUT KNOW YOUR COMMANDER IS BORING AS SHIT AND CAN'T LIVE>>97759261GOODSTUFF BORING BUT BETTER BECAUSE A. IT'S BOROS WHICH SUCKS AND B. IT'S A JANK COMMANDERPROCEED>>97759383THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS A GENUINE BRACKET 4, I RESPECT THE OBVIOUS BOOMER DNA IN THE DECK THOUGHPROCEED>>97759921THIS GUY IS A LITTLE TRYHARD AND I SUSPECT THIS DECK IS STRONGER THAN BRACKET 2 EVEN IF I CAN'T PROVE ITPROCEED ANYWAY>>97760098POWERFUL BOROS THOUGH THOSE CORE CARDS MAKE IT SEEM A BIT GENERICPROCEED
>>97760153>I SUSPECT THIS DECK IS STRONGER THAN BRACKET 2My secret is that I don't have the good rituals or Storm payoffs to go truly nuts, but fair.
>>97759921>>97760170emps is bracket 2, veyran is bracket 3, vivi is bracket 4, ral is bracket 5you don't even need to change the deck! this part was sarcasm
>>97760153>POWERFUL BOROSShould had put the white pact, it always saves me from Reservoir.
>>97760104What's the difference?
>>97760104You are both retarded and indian, Ranjeet.
>>97756948Found Ivora in my bulk a while back and figured it could be fun to try a mono red deck. She ended up being one of my favorite decks.https://moxfield.com/decks/hB4FdXIUz0OKO-55Ov84fg
>>97760212You're not wrong, but a lot of brain dead white people like letting machines "think" for them.
>>97756191>grandeurIs this seriously what they’re resorting to trying to fix the legendary creature problem they caused with UB?
>>97760098Honestly this thing really impressed the couple times I've gotten it down in other decks where it's not the commander. So much so it's tempting to want to build it alone.
>>97760287No, its a mechanic made not for commander?
>>97760287It's not a new effect or anything, so I doubt it. May just be one of those things they're revisiting to say there's now at least a colorless option for it to fill the vacancy.
>>97760287Grandeur is from Future Sight (So old it's not even on that graph). It also is very notable for being a Mechanic that literally can not function in commander, despite only ever being printed on legendary creatures, since it requires you to discard a card with the same name as it to get the effect.Essentially, it's a mechanic designed to make a legendary creature in your hand a dead card if you already had it out
so hobbith spoilers should be in a a week right?
>>97760042seems extremely unfun to play
>>97760287grandeur isn't new though
>>97760287You must be 18 years old to post here
>>97756191oh wow another legendary creature with Grandeur? Great thanks I get to be once again reminded that we don't have one with both Grandeur and "a deck can have any number of cards" combined. That and a proper skeleton commander are my white whales
>>97756948It's like Nekusar if Nekusar was slow and hated your hand.
Democratic Ultimatum RRWWUUInstantThis spell cannot resolve unless RRWWUU was spent to cast it. Choose two or more: >Alternative mana costs for spells cannot be paid for the rest of the game.>If a player would impose a cost of any kind on an opponent, instead that player loses 10 life instead for the rest of the game.>Choose a player. For the rest of the game, all life that player would lose is doubled, and damage dealt to that player and permanents they control cannot be prevented and they cannot gain life.>Each player may draw 5 cards, gain 5 life, and return a card from their graveyard or own face up in exile to their hand.Separate the modes into 2 piles.Starting with the next player in turn order, each player votes for a pile. You vote twice. the mode with the most vote resolves, or both, if the vote is tied.
>>97759526I'm actually surprised by how much they differ.https://archidekt.com/decks/21072309/dont_forget
>>97756948Like I give a shit what you think. pls no bully
>>97760305Yes, and? The fact they’ve printed more legendary creatures in 4 UB sets than the last 2 years of non UB sets combined is a problem for all formats in different ways. For non singleton formats leaning into grandeur is making it a feature not a bug>>97760319I am skeptical>>97760332And? See first reply>>97760346And? Printed on like 6 cards total, now it’s back>>97760365You people really are subhuman IQ sometimesHow old grandeur is as a mechanic does not negate it being a solution to WotC’s current problem
>>97760287>How can I make this about UB?!
>>97760390This doesn't make sense.
>>97760445>I will forgo all logical reasoning for some anti-ub conspiracyOk retard.
>>97760445It has nothing to do with UB and has been back since MH3
>>97759924Fake women flesh is half a step away from troons
>>97760543I'm not a righty
>>97760482>MH3Might as well be UB
fun story timr>down to 1v1 vs elesh norn>his turn uses approach of the second sun, makes it so he will definitely draw it next turn, uses t-pro>have to get rid of his 50ish life somehow>assemble rube goldberg infinite with doubling season, donatello the brains, and basking broodscale >had here comes a new hero in hand and super shredder on the field >infinite mana, infinite leaves the battlefield means i get to draw my whole deck and make shredder infinite/infinite>the turtle precon comes with a fuckin fling that I used during his upkeep to kill him before he could approach a second time Thanks for coming to my TED talk, hope you like greentext stories about turtles. That new precon is so fun after upgrading
>>97760244PROCEED BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHY ANYONE WOULD BUILD HER IN PARTICULAR>>97760401THIS IS NOT BRACKET 1 YOU DISINGENUOUS FUCK
>>97756948Gentlemen.
>>97760573I need a decklist this looks insane
>>97760289It's fun, I built a For Mirrodin! deck with it as a the commander because that keyword makes rebel tokens. Army in a can always punches above its expected weight
>>97760565how did you chew through 50 of his life when he had tefpro
>>97760570It's 2 at best. The manabase is garbage and it's easily disrupted and unreliable.
>>97760593Sounds like he killed the Norn on the Norn's upkeep.
>>97760593
>>97760593During his upkeep i used it, the fling is on an instant
>>97760565I AM ANGRYANGRY ABOUT TURTLES
>>97760399Yeah. Hardly any of the same cards. Props for Hallowed Burial.
>>97760390why is the doro poster so retarded
>>97758444RKF art for your General is automatically a 10/10
>>97756948This didn't work selecting my print so I had to go an manually edit in the Kefka print. Just a huge FFVIfag
>>97760595How bad can a 2 color decks manabase possibly be? Just run 20 mountains and 20 swamps
>>97760595nta but it is no way a 1. You guys really don't know what brackets are supposed to be.
>>97756948Here have two
>>97760573CHAOS IS NOT VERY INTERESTING, IT PUTS YOU ON A DIFFERENT AXIS FROM THE REST OF THE TABLE AND LARGELY MAKES THE GAME ANNOYING FOR NO REAL GAIN>>97760595YES A 2 IS NOT A 1>>97760650THIS COMMANDER IS WAY TOO SELF-SOLVING BUT YOU'RE RUNNING KABOOM SO YOU ARE APPROVED>>97760670 I SAW KEFKA AND ON REFLEX WENT TO INSULT YOUR HORRIFIC TASTE, THEN REALIZED IT'S PURPHOROS AND SAW YOU ONLY HAVE MEDIOCRE TASTELINEAR DECK THAT'S ANNOYING TO DEAL WITH DO NOT PASS GO>>97760706THIS GUY JUST DOES A BUNCH OF FIRE DESIGN SHIT BUT THIS IS ONCE AGAIN A BOROS PILE SO IT GETS A PASS BY DEFAULT>>97760824PERFECTLY RESPECTABLE HONEST MAGICAPPROVED>>97760828PROCEED BUT THIS IS LITERALLY JUST A SPRUCED UP PRECON
>>97760869I had to find the singleton pieces, this is almost definitely worse than the precon I stole pieces from to try and make the deck work since I have a bunch of nonsense rules put into place like not running any pillowfort pieces like Progaganda. I do find it funny how much it looks like the actual precon though.I can't wait to take it apart for Zurgo and Ojutai.
>>97760869You're annoying
>>97760042Because it feels like the world is at your fingertips. The toolboxing is great. It's the corner cases that you packed for like using Timely Ward to get indestructible and your situational 3MV card.Eventually you might feel like the play patterns are similar but that's because you're most often dealing with the same casual-midrange-garbage-piles. So you respond the same.
>>97760042>EVERY TURN I'M SHUFFLIN'
>>97760869>didnt recognize banepostingI'm not mad, just disappointed
>>97760463Whats confusing about a modal will of the council
>>97760456>print 300 legendary creatures in 4 Standard sets in 1 year>suddenly bring back a mechanic that depends on having multiple copies of the same Legendary>these two facts are unconnectedThe world must be such a confusing place when you’re incapable of connecting two events unless the people behind them outright tell you they are connected. Harrowing to think about.
>>97761000Oh yeah I forgot to say the obvious. Play the big boob art.
>>97761052>They set up mechanics for standard and not commander, oh the humanity
>>97761052>HOW CAN I MAKE THIS ABOUT UB?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
>>97761102>create a problem by printing UB>don’t just print less UB or less Legendary creatures>bring back an old-ass mechanic to make an excess of Legendaries less out of place
>>97761138>They plan sets only a few months in advance>They are making mechanics for standard, oh the humanityThere is no scenario where you aren't just a tinfoiling, pearlclutching retard, so stop proving that's just what you are.
>>97761138but if the effect isn't on UB cards then how does this help?
>>97761150I don’t get why you’re trying to make this about complaining about designing for other formats when I’m complaining that they’re accommodating the problem of excess Legendaries which they themselves made to be a problem instead of just not printing so many Legendaries>>97761151Experimenting with how effectively it tackles the problem. They’ll role it out to UB if they see fit. They’re already printing Legendaries at common, not hard to copy paste grandeur text onto cards that basically do nothing
>>97761187Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
>>97761195Like UB being more than 50% of sets?
>>97756948Why yes I am creatively bankrupt.
>the anti-UB magic subreddit got shut downUW bros...I think it's over...
>>97761312baaaaased
>>97760989YOUR DECK IS STILL NOT APPROVED>>97761137THIS GUY USED TO JUST BE THE GENERIC GO-TO ZOMBIE COMMANDER, BUT AT THIS POINT HE'S BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO JUST BE "A CLASSIC" TRIBAL IS BLAND HOWEVERPROCEED>>97761286YESYES YOU ARE
>>97761312Drama? Give the rundown
>>97761318Which deck is mine?
>>97761138Legend creep started before UB was a thing doe
>>97761322WotC following the playbook of every tyrant by shutting down dissent. Thankfully this strategy always works and never fans the flames
>>97761341based WOTC
>>97761338Demonstrably untrue >>97760287It’s been really stable for almost 15 years
>>97761341Yeah this is obvious bullshit and anyone who believes it is a complete moron
>>97761351heh...clearly you don't understand how WOTC works.
>>97761322r/freemagic was basically an entire subreddit of poopdickschizos and redditadmins turned on an auto spammer that made it so every single post and comment had to be approved by the subreddits mods to get approval so they're all fleeing to discord with the rest of the trannies and retards
>>97761318So you're letting the eldrazi player (me) through, right?
>player with no interaction or protection windmill slams threat and ramp>NOOOOOOOOO JUST LET ME PLAY>instantly wins otherwise
>>97761359Spamming what anon? Why don’t you tell us?
>>97761349>Demonstrably untruewhen you selectively leave out the parts that prove it is true by not zooming out, of course. Legend creep was happening steadily for years, Dominaria/Spark annihilated any idea of restraint, and afterward the average per set steadily rose even if individually some were less than others. It doesn't matter that we're hitting higher highs with UB, the problem started with UW and pretending it didn't just exposes you as a biased brainlet.
>>97761398>selectively leave out the parts that prove it is true That’s literally a graph for the exact same period but stopping at OTJ so you don’t see the double to triple increase in legends in the subsequent UB sets.Oh you also seem to have condensed your data points so it’s look more like a curve and split set blocks into their thirds so you can have a much lower starting pointSeems like you’re the one being selective there budWe done here?
>>97761398>highest point is Dominaria at 64>FF had 112>graph would have to be literally twice as tall to accommodate FFConvenient to leave that out huh?
>chartschizo is at it again
>>97761398>>97761412>if I ignore what the argument is about I win!Here I'll spell it out in clear language that even your tard brains can understand.1) You blame UB for legendary bloat.2) Legendary bloat started in UW sets.3) Legendary bloat increased steadily with UW, increasing rapidly in size after the massive spikes in DOM and WAR well before the first UB set hit the scene.4) UB sets having a higher average of legendaries means nothing in the context of your argument because we're not talking about which set had the most total, we're debating when the trend of filling up sets with legendaries started.ONCE AGAIN UB sets having more legendaries on average is totally and utterly irrelevant to your complaint. You dumbasses are asserting UB created the legendary bloat problem. This is demonstrably, empirically, objectively untrue. The problem started with UW sets. I'll repeat it because you retards have reading comprehension difficulties but UB HAVING MORE LEGENDARIES ON AVERAGE IS IRRELEVANT TO YOUR ARGUMENT. YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT UB IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LEGEND BLOAT. THIS IS NOT TRUE.Stop being stupid.
>>97761430 see >>97761465
>>97761465Yeah see these two arent true:>2) Legendary bloat started in UW sets.>3) Legendary bloat increased steadily with UW, increasing rapidly in size after the massive spikes in DOM and WAR well before the first UB set hit the scene.This graph >>97760287 plainly shows that Legendaries have actually been pretty consistent over the years with a couple rare spikesEven then, the UB spikes are colossal, each higher than the highest ever spike in Dominaria, and actually accounting for more Legendaries than in all the in-universe sets in the previous 2 years combined.Youre desperate to lie about this because you think you can turn it to some sort of frog in the boiling pot situationYou can’t. The data is right here, and the fact that youre too piss-scared to put the UB sets into your own graph shows that you know it undermines your argument
>>97761498
>>97761504Okay.
How do you deal with this? I had an insolent pair of players decide to team up, and when one guy combo'd out after the other used his control to cement the win, they both handshaked on the win. I said no. Only ONE can win. You aren't allowed to broker some kind of two headed giant mid-game, that's ridiculous.
>>97761520>Only ONE can winbut one player did win>nooooo people can't kingmake!!i assure you if the pod doesn't want you to win they will be able to do so with regularitythat's why edh is best played with something on the line for winning, much to the chagrin of casualfags (pizza, a bet, bragging rights that you can win without collusion and that it takes 3 to beat you, whatever)
Should I run thoughtseize?
>>97761534wait for wotc to powercreep it firstall your opponents need to reveal their hands for thoughtseize effects to be worth it in edh
>>97761532NO. He declared NO targets for the opposing player after defeating myself and the 4th. They then literally shook hands and declared themselves both winners. This is insanity, there should be NO ROOM for this ridiculousness. I knew I should've just shut them down, but they kept whining that I'm 'unfun' when I force of will their 6 mana commander.
>>97761544>but they kept whining that I'm 'unfun' when I force of will their 6 mana commander.ah well sorry about your pod i guess
>>97761498>This graph >>97760287 # plainly shows that Legendaries have actually been pretty consistent over the years with a couple rare spikesIf you ignore the actual numbers and just look at the picture, yeah you're right. Look closer dumb dumb: before Theros it was rare to even hit 15+. After Theros 20+ became more common. After DOM 30+ became more common, and after United we didn't even drop below 20 again until Duskmourne. You're focused on how the graph looks. I'm focused on the numbers. And the numbers prove the average of legendaries per set began to go up significantly (100%+) in UW sets and on average have stayed high every time they do. You don't understand how growth and trends work.>Even then, the UB spikes are colossal, each higher than the highest ever spike in Dominaria, and actually accounting for more Legendaries than in all the in-universe sets in the previous 2 years combined.Yes, they are. And no one is arguing UB doesn't have the highest amount of legendaries to date. That was NEVER what your argument was. Your argument is UB ruined the game by creating legendary bloat. I am refuting that because the numbers don't lie, and the numbers say that the trend started and accelerated long before UB existed. That is what the argument and debate is about. It's like you started an argument about when you started to go bald, and you discount the fact you started balding at 21 because you only recently hit the Norwood VI and are claiming you only recently became bald when your ass was Norwood IV 5+ years ago. IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW HIGH. It's about WHEN. THAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT. Jfc how many times do I have to repeat myself?Stop. Being. Stupid.
>tracker days mail day tomorrowJust in time for FNM. My friends are gonna love me :)
>>97761561Male baldness is actually just a sign of poor genetics.
>>97761565So is stupidity.
>>97761676Holy basado
>>97761564So glad this faggot card isn’t coming to MTGO
Snailsisters is this real?
>>97761982who?
>>97756948Man I love mana.
>>97761982>40 life>a problemThe real issue is consistancy in a 100 card deck. Half the time you just don't draw land/your engines. Gotta make slots for generic draw spells but it slows the deck down. Hard trade-off to make.
>>97756948We are just a small band of peaceful goblins. Don't breed like rats or nuthin-, we swears it.
>>97762628Me too, want to build cunny acquisitor.
Anyone got recommendations for a Phyrexian themed deck?
>>97762653Skittles or bust.
>>97762673It's funny to me that Skittles can mean both Skithiryx and Skrelv.
>>97762673From what I've seen, everyone says to run Atraxa, but she seems to be generic 4c slop.
>>97762673Run Atraxa, she's generic 4c slop
>>97762725She is 4C slop. But if you like the taste of penis she might be for you.
>>97762802I was thinking maybe Vorniclex to make a stompy green deck, since I don't have one currently. My only concern is that mono decks aren't too hot these days.
>>97761520>>97761544>insolent players>gets taken out and the remaining survivors laugh and shake handsthis anon is ACTUALLY nicol bolas
>>97756948Made a (shitty fucked up) grid of nine or so decks. I dismantle them for parts often, but some of these are evergreen. The rest are just some in recent memory I liked a lot.
>>97762937Impossible. He's not sexually frustrated asking for Ugin to plow him until he can't walk.
>>97756948>https://deck-passport.vercel.app/deck/new
>>97756948https://archidekt.com/decks/14368354/breya_edhI have been very impressed with Collector's Cage thus far.
>>97761360NO>>97761676NOVEL GIMMICK DECK THAT CAN ACTUALLY WIN, ABSOLUTELY APPROVED>>97762153THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE COMMANDERS WHO YOU KILL EVERY TIME OR LOSE WHEN THEY ENTER MAIN PHASE 2, NOT A FUN GAME STATE AND (NOT) APPROVED>>97762377YOU CAN PASS BUT YOUR COMMANDER IS ONE OF THE DULLEST PRECON FACE LEGENDS OF ALL TIME>>97762474PASS BECAUSE GOBLINS ARE INOFFENSIVE BUT KNOW YOU'RE JUST A XEROX COPY OF 5 MILLION OTHER GOBLIN PLAYERS>>97762628SIMPLE AND STRONG BUT YOUR CORE CARDS REPRESENT THE DECK AS PRETTY GENERIC SULTAI STUFFYOU CAN PASS BUT YOU CAN BUILD HIM MORE INTERESTINGLY>>97762803REPETITIVE COMMANDER WHO DOES EXACTLY ONE THING OR LOSES BECAUSE HE GOT KILLEDYOU CAN(NOT) PASS>>97762989YOU ALMOST HAD A 9/9 APPROVAL BUT YOU JUST HAD TO USE STICKERS>>97763414ALWAYS APPROVE OF BRION BUT I'M NOTICING /edhg/ HAS A DISPROPORTIONATE ERECTION FOR BOROS>>97763721CITADEL + TOP _AND_ BRACKET 4 HELLNEVER EVER EVER EVER PASS
>>97756221>too bad he's useless in commanderIt's an Arcane Signet in the command zone.
>>97763810>CITADEL + TOP _AND_ BRACKET 4 HELL>NEVER EVER EVER EVER PASSDon't forget about Mechanaut+Mystic Forge+Top!
>>97761138Grandeur doesn't "solve" an uptick in legendaries. If anything, Grandeur plays better in environments with fewer legendaries so you can actually double up on the relevant ones to trigger the effect. These are different matters of quantity. It would be one thing if you were talking about an abundance of lower rarity Legends, but you're instead bitching about legend count as a whole, which doesn't interact with Grandeur.Your argument is literally nonsense.
>sensei's divining topautomatically a faggot, dont care
How much of a fag do I become if I make a theft deck?
>>97764085The faggiest
>>97764085I don't think you can beome much more of a fag than you currently are.
>>97764085stealing from boards is pretty faggy but giving them an out by losing the monarch is pretty funnyso 100/10 fag points if you sac their creatures, maybe 4/10 fag points if you dont
>>97764145>if you sac their creaturesGarland can't do that.
>>97764085https://archidekt.com/decks/18124819/dommy_mommy_tribalthis is the only theft deck that people enjoy playing against
>>97764145>>97764119>>97764115so this looks fine right?
>>97764085I have a deck for edea with garland in it, you can explain that says they get it back or you can't sacrifice it, but they won't listen.
Why does Warren Soultrader exist? Such a slop card.
>>97756948Sneaking one more in before thread dies
>>97764713Finally a cute girl
>>97763810>YOU KILL EVERY TIMEIf your commander isn't kill on sight, what are you doing with your life
>>97764870thought about building Falco sagas for a secret santa but chickened out in favor of Rendmawhow does it play? I was concerned it's just gonna spin wheels all day and not get anywhere
>>97764898>>97764898>I was concerned it's just gonna spin wheels all day and not get anywhereIt basically is this, you never have a creature on the top of your library when you need it and someone will always Doomblade your Kianne, Corrupted Memory
>>97764924thats disheartening to hear
>>97764468Now you know why there are combo limits in the lower brackets (t7 in b3 for example), it's to prevent early anticlimactic endings
Absolutely legendary pull.
Is this legal in bracket 2?
>>97765120Yes>reminder that the keyword in gavin's definition of mld is 'regularly' and this shit gideon is anything but regular
>>97765206>using Armageddon once isn't regular, therefore it's not mld and fine in bracket 2Retarded or pretending to be retarded, call it
>>97765116art cards are cool and I don't get why some people would rsther have a dumb token instead
>>97765246Armageddon will destroy all lands, this gideon will tick up and die
I was told having this combo in my Sephiroth deck makes it bracket 4 because I can win turn 4 with it, but it's a 3-card combo so it should still be fine anyway right?The bracket system specifically says no early 2-card combos, implying that early 3-card combos are generally fine since they're harder to assemble?But then again one of the combo pieces is my commander so really idk. I see many other bracket 3 Sephiroth lists run it tho.
Since this doesn't give Haste, I can't fire this off during my turn as a triple threaten, right?
>>97765311I'm a moron.
>>97765286Reminder that gavin allows rube goldberg early turn infinites as long as it's 'inconsistent enough' so that the casual johnny is not excludedBut at the same time there's no telling what inconsistent even means (is 10% likelihood ok? What about 5%? 15%?) so when it comes to randoms at the LGS a blanket 'no infinites/thoracles/locks before my turn X' (t7 in b3) is the norm
>>97765265They are cool, the problem is that most of the art pool they're pulling from is shit. This is probably the second or third art card I've been really happy to end up with, just because 99% of the time what I get it some shit art from a bad card.
>>97765322The new descriptions of brackets talk about how early you can win in lower brackets. So you're completely wrong about everything.
>>97765342You clearly didnt read the supplementary material, as if gavin will publicly ban the 4 card infinite on turn 5>dont worry lgs sweats know better
>>97765311>>97765318correct
>>97765373Unfortunate, at least it's intended use case is still pretty funny and It does turn into a triple threaten if you have a haste enabler somewhere.
>>97764898NTA but instead the Yuna one, pulling counters off sagas is helping busted so I think that Spara deck could be viable. Sagas were balanced around being used one time and as soon as you get one of the effects twice the value gets out of control. Look into the Legend of Yangchen and Kyoshi. You haven't known true gleeful terror until you make the table go through Yangchen's lore 1 trigger multiple times
>>97765322I wish i had a way of calculating how likely i am to perform this combo before turn 6.Should probably just take it out, or at least the other version of it with gravecrawler.
>>97765351>Only Gavin makes the rules for the brackets You clearly didn't read it
>>97765476>Our hope is this also makes things a lot clearer in terms of big game-ending cards and combos, explaining where they should show up. For example, instead of wondering what "no early-game combos" means, saying "you don't expect to win or lose before turn six" gives you a pretty clear indicator of what kind of combos could be allowed: not ones that tend to happen in the first six turns.>That doesn't mean you should just wait and hold your two-card infinite until later either. If a combo could frequently come up, it's not the best fit for that bracket.Literally in the october article, gavin is against sandbagging because he wants the casual johnny to be able to pull off his rube goldberg combo at the cost of a ~5% WR, that's all it meansBut again sweats know better, doing a blanket combo limit regardless of inconsistency is indeed for the best
If i wanna take the infinites out of Sephiroth what should I replace them with?I guess Warren Soultrader Could be replaced with Yagwmoth and Phyrexian Altar with..?
>>97765615You dont have to take out anything, just sandbag it until your turn 7 (turn 9 if b2)
>>97765615Cooler sac outlets
>>97756948Does my waifu pass?
Newfag question: if I have a card out that triggers off landfall and I play something like Awaken the Woods (create X land creatures) that does trigger landfall for each one created right?
>>97765669Wotc killed off avacyn because they cant let her get away with those mammaries
>>97765669>MLD>Bracket 3You don't pass and you will never look like Avacyn.
>>97765615This or that one Warhammer guy if you arent playing those yet
>>97765669>MLD in the lower brackets
>>97765688I mean, there's only 8 total board wipes in there if you count Worldslayer's bad touch. I used to have 15
>>97765638People will still complain i feel, there's some salty fucks at my store.>>97765700Oh that is kinda cool actually. Which Warhammer guy tho?
>>97765728>People will still complain i feel, there's some salty fucks at my store.At a certain point you're going to have to be allowed to combo off, t9 for b2, t7 for b3, and t5 for b4 is very fair
>>97765672Yes
>>97765750Yeah but people will be mad that my deck could've done it earlier idk i'm tired of some people being always salty.Wish i had a playgroup.
>>97765768>get mad at you for jamming asap>also get mad at you for sandbaggingSorry but that's a bracket 1 combo hating timmy pod in conplete denial and thus not to be taken seriously
>Primeval Titan is simply too oppressive if flickered>omg Solitude flicker hiii
>>97765920Dont worry anon rhystic study is a fair card, sheldon told me so
>>97765920I'm bringing Prime Time back. Just ignore the banlist and start having fun.
>>97763810Why;d you skip me anyway?
>>97765286"you can win on turn 4" only matters if it is consistent. A lot of decks can win fast if they get a god hand.
>>97766208Shit, that's a good deck idea, can't believe I never thought of doing Emerge that way instead of the normal yugioh stuff
>>97764085Garland himself is funny, going full on with theft synergy is just annoying for everyone involved though.
>>97765920They'll bring back primetime, I don't want them to, but they will, they want landfall decks to be over tuned, over pushed bullshit, and they'll let prime time be unbanned for them, Its clearly their pet archetype.
>>97767411Relax primetime as a GC wont touch your b2 pods
>>97765419Can only pull cpunters off creatures, though, so unless the deck is built arpund making your sagas into creatures, you're out of luck. Onpy ones that work are the FF ones.
>>97767411>unbanned Prime Time>unbanned Sylvan Primordial>unbanned Zesty Elf>unbanned Sundering Titan>CURRENTLY UNBANNED Biorhythm Mono-green Chad's, we are going to be eatin' good!
>>97765246Ammegeddon will always destroy lands if it resolves, so the card will regularly destroy lots of lands, thus why the card is mld. Gideon will almost never get its ult off, so the card will almost never destroy many lands, so it's not mld.
>>97765286Personally I consider the commander of a deck to be always in-play, so a two-card combo would be two more cards, or two cards w/o the commander (if they work together without needing it, I mean).However, I don't think that's what gav meant, and in any cause as long as you aren't running a bunch of efficient tutors and ways to consistantly get this out turn 4, you're fine.
>>97763810>you're a copy of other goblin decksBut it's a voltron deck, there is next to no tribal anything, there are no creatures in the deck. The goblin token are 90% of.the time cheerleaders to make krenko swole and blockers.
>cast pic rel on hearthhull player>has scapeshift, lumra, field of the dead amulet of vigor etc>exile lumra, immediately gets salty>bitches and whines despite having tannuk icetill and omnath out with hearthull >runs no protection, gets all of the removal>whirlwind of denial landfall/sac triggers>when he already pubstomped and won on turn 5 the last game with the same value engine / no interaction
>>97767554Landfall is still horseshit in bracket 3
>tfw your favorite character gets a new cardCan't wait for Strixhaven bros
Peanutbutter and Freedom manRWUAvatar Advisor3/3Command zone superiority - As an opponent casts a card you own, you gain control of it. If a card would be exiled from your library by an opponent, instead it isn't. All costs from sources an opponent would impose on you are considered paid. If anything would be copied, or become a copy, instead it's owner amass 1
>>97767711>runs lumra in the 99 instead of the cz just to say "it's not the cedh build so it's not consistent enough and is good enough for lower brackets"more reason why a blanket combo turn threshold in b3 below regardless of consistency is best, it covers these kinds of angle shooting
>>97767785Yeah, but its a kinda bad card
>>97765700Soldering Adnate is one of my favorite cards. The right mix of playable but ancient enough that people go "wtf is that?" every time I drop it. I put it in every deck it is remotely useful in.Its still like, $1 too. I can't wait for sloptubers to find it and for it to become a $50 card.
Is this still playable in 2026?
>>97767791He'll slot right into either of my other two Quintorious decks just fine
>>97765728>Which Warhammer guy thoHad to look it up, he's basically the same as Adnate, just couldn't remember the name
THE THREAD IS ALMOST OVERSO I CAN SAYYOU ALL FAILEDNEXT TO NO ONE COMMENTED ON EACH OTHER'S DECKS WHICH WOULD FOSTER ACTUAL DISCUSSION IN THE THREADINSTEAD EVERYONE JUST POSTED THEIR OWN FOR EASY (YOU)S
>>97768116I felt like it wasn't a representative enough description/sample of the deck to be able to comment on it. also I didn't trust the site enough to do anything on it.
>>97768116You never even commented on mine
>>97768116I literally comment "I want to be cunny acquisitor too"
>>97768123WHICH ONE
>>97768116That wasn't one of the rules. You never stated we had to.
>>97768116no i'm not going to reveal my super secret deck tech to dominate the upcoming B3 meta
>>97766208Fucking A, anon. That's a much better way of doing "threaten tribal" than I did. I chose these two and I steal commanders, hit with them, then ideally sacrifice them for bonuses like card draw/removal/whatever. While I do have the backup of stealing bigger threats on the table, the deck quickly "runs out of gas" in a way by having zero commanders to steal due to their commander tax getting way too high to cast anymore (the deck is built around commanders/legendary creatures attacking/dealing combat damage). I'm definitely doing your deck though since I already have like 70% of the idea built, now I just need to pick up Herigast and some big doofuses to cast. I'll just share the cards between the two decks
>>97767785Im excited for him too. His original card was neat but felt shit when he died once. Him being a PW unironically solves that since you want cheap recurable dudes to hold the line.
>>97768116You just told us to make the passport thing, retard.
>>97766729>>97768185I appreciate it, it's a very fun deck to play, and my pod likes it well enough not to be annoyed by theft.
>>97768116There was some at least. Still it would help to remind us to check each others passports next time.
>>97768116I think everyone's deck is cool. I never posted mine.
>>97768375There's a lot of super neato creatures with both enter and death triggers that fit great in it. Oxidda Golem is by far my favorite though. Basically free and a huge discount on the next huge creature to Emerge
>>97768116How about you make a statistic/compilation of all decks and present some funny stats about /edhg/ preferences?
does groupslug even really slow down the game? from my experience so far so many pings on actions accelerate the game more than anything. Like I'd say a McKenzie fog deck is more of a slugger than anything else
>>97768625>quickly bring down everyone's life all at oncePlease tell me how this slows down the game. If your friends/pod feel the need to pause the game for every single ping/AoE trigger to discuss things and hash them out then you need to tell them to shut the fuck up>Like I'd say a McKenzie fog deck is more of a slugger than anything elseJesse what the fuck are you talking about?
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Fuck my life.>>97768633>>97768633>>97768633
>>97768636>Please tell me how this slows down the gameit doesn't, that's the entire point that so called groupslug decks are often the accelerants while still being called "slug">Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?that compared to the entire category of "groupslug" a fog/pillowfort deck with fog on demand commander is the real slug and I misspelled Mackenzie as I was going off memory
>>97757487Dang. I like this deck a lot. Mind posting a list?
