Looks like Old World is succeeding so much that GW will abandon the AoS they have been building and will try to imitate grimderp instead.
>>97759226yeah that was so well received last time, dumb fuckers
Sure thing, Ben.
i hate it, not least of all because GW is so utterly deadened to the well being of their own properties but also FUCK RATS SO FUCKING SICK OF RATFAGS
The only thing in my collection of AOS is a single Spear and shield Stormcast, which I have painted as a stone statue, with some snow dusting his shoulders and base.I use him as a lonely statue in the forgotten ruins of some long forgotten kingdom.Sometimes as a golem.I knew when I was given him, that he would be a thing of his time.Immortalizing him in crumbling stone seemed the thing to do.
>>97759226I choose not to believe this shit, not because it's false, but because it would make me sad
>>97759226Why should I care?
>>97759226I hope this is true it sounds like bullshit but it'll be so fucking funny if it is true
Word on the street is this was an elaborate honey pot to catch leakers and they'll be publicly executed at Adepticon
Reminder that the leaker openly admitted being an AoS hater, and that he framed everything in the worst way possible to paint a picture where the setting is "killed".He also does everything in his power to paint the upcoming new setting as an ugly mockery of The Old World that apes The Old World and strives to be The Old World.The truth is very different, and you can read it between the lines of his deranged rambling:in the new edition the realms are FINALLY cohesively united in one fucking map and the Stormcast wank is FINALLY gone for good.100% of this is good news, and none of it entails the "death" of the setting. The only things that are going away are the "almost infinite dimensional realms" and "the Stormcast are perfect immortal unbeatable paragons of an invincible God-King".
>>97761635Cope.
>>97761635TRVKE
>>97761635I like your take. The cocnrete points of change does not sound bad. The realms having those weird concept maps was ridiculed for a good reason.SCE aren't bad as a newb friendly hobby project though. The problem is GW trying to make them into main characters rather than baby's first fantasy model. I hope they are not completely gone.
>>97761635I looked into it and it doesn't seem like an end times scenario at all. More like storm of chaos if gw had actually followes through with its changes.
should I sell my AoS armies now or later?
>>97761635>"almost infinite dimensional realms"They got rid of that in 2nd edition...
Why do so many believe these rumors
>>97761635>"almost infinite dimensional realms"why do lorelets like to expose themselves like that every day?
>>97761186Post a pic anon.
>>97761590I don't buy the honey pot theory. This is going to completely derail any conversation about AOS for the next year at least, and will kill any potential hype for new releases instead of build it. You don't do that just to catch some leaker the average customer has never (until now) heard of.
>>97761807Better sell them before they become worthless.
>>97761810>>97761820This is exactly why they're changing the realms to being one planet. Even a decade later it still confuses retards
>>97761174Cool.
>>97761835April Fools is 1 week from now and one of the guys said they expected the news after Adepticon, so literally days before April Fools. It's the perfect moment to damage control (especially given they already made the exact same joke, the guy is claiming will happen, a few yers ago, so they don't even have to make a new graphic)
>>97761832Sure, here he is.The mournful warden over some forlorn outpost; his vigil eternal.He gazes out over the plane before the walls from a half-collapsed rampart, waiting for a relief that never comes.
>>97761635Ah, the "I'm totally not mad" conversion made by a person that posted it to her hugbox after she got kicked out of a Mordheim group for being insufferable. Definitely makes me take your post in good faith.
>>97761941It's a cool conversion bro, nobody cares who made it
>>97761941>sheDoes "she" have an Adams apple and wear size twelve kitten heels?
>>97761949The background to why it got made was very funny.
>>97761635Having the different realms based on the winds of magic is kind of a core part of how the AoS setting works, so abandoning it in favor of having everything be set on one planet like it was in WHFB does seem to me that they're admitting defeat and trying to reboot AOS as more of a WHFB 2.0 instead of the weird cosmic fantasy stuff they were originally going for.I think that is a good change since I don't think the realm stuff ever worked very well, but it still amounts to abandoning one of the major elements that made the AOS setting. It's like if 40k suddenly went from having an entirely galaxy to taking place on a single planet.
>AoS had half the editions and lasted less than half of what Fantasy didApparently all Fantasy was missing was cute Chinese girls.
Who is this game for? I don't get what the appeal is.
>>97762156You know damn well people will still buy it.
>>97762152best warhammer character
People really believe this lmfao
>>97762119The difference is everyone likes the 40k galaxy, while the fans of the AoS planes are a vocal minority that doesn't actually like them, they only like "what they could be".
>>97762119I don't think they necessarily ditching the winds of magic theme, just putting them all on one flat map instead of them being their own little planets that you gotta teleport to. So instead of like the aqshy or chamon planet we'll have the aqshy and chamon continents. That's how I read it anyway.
>>97762232the realmgates may still be active too. A citizen of The Living City that wants to travel to Aqshy in The Last World and in The Mortal Realms probably follows the same route through the portal and hasn't even realized anything changed at all.It's not like anyone ever ventured the borders of the realms that now form the "coastline". A pirate or raider that goes from one continent to the next will find no important settlement because there never were important cities at the very edge of a realm.
>>97762232>>97762244It ultimately doesn't matter because it won't fix the writing being boring or the factions being lame or the only good characters being borrowed from Fantasy and made worse.
>>97762256The best characters are the original ones thougheverbeit
>>97762256no it actually does matter because you can tell where things are happening, it is 100 times better
>>97762280Sure it does.
>>97762301Are you kidding? Being able to tell how much of Ghyran is controlled by Nurgle and how much is controlled by the Sylvaneth?Having a map of Skaven tunnels instead of being told that they go "through the fabric of reality"? Knowing whether the Helsmiths of Hashut have one outpost or two or ten in Ghur and where they're coming from? Seeing old landmarks like the Black Fortress of Azgorh in Aqshy or the Land of the Candlemen and the Orb Infernia? Wondering about the scattered icons on the map that denote where the Silent People could be? Being able to tell what faction borders what faction and seeing the big nations of men and aelves next to each other wondering about their relation?I confirm: 100 times better
>>97762342>nothing matters, making it better
>>97762347who are you quoting?
One world is gayNothing ever changed in Old WorldYou could have entire cities etc. wiped out in AoS because of the scale but in Old World everything was a permamant status quo
>>97762413Uhh bro don't you know tamurkhan ravaged the border princes??!
>>97762413yeah sure let's all go visit the prosperous city of Praag or Mordheim together. Let's all go to Itza to see how the Lizardmen are doing
>>97762431You means shit that was pre-writen as already ruined?
>>97761635That SCE was made by a literal tranny. Tranny game for trannies. Just like you! Faggot.
>>97761949I care. Faggot.
>>97762413Meanwhile in AoS basically every army blurb has "they have conquered innumerable [nameless] cities and dozens of [unnamed] civilisations" and it just fucking means nothing
>>97762413Age of Smegma is gay. It always has been gay. You are gay for defending it. Fuck you.
>>97762484That's literally every blurb in every warhammer setting though. King manlet of karak fivefootnine defeated Shitmouth Asseater and his horde of innumerable greenskins type shit
>>97761926cool
>>97762471can't you go back to just playing your game?Oh wait, you can't: it's dead
>>97761926siiick
>>97762413The problem I have with AOS is that the whole realm stuff feels so vague and hard to define. In 40k the galaxy has millions of worlds and the writers can come up with a planet that only gets named in one sentence describing it being conquered by Chaos, but the galaxy itself is still an actual physical place that has a map, and the Imperium losing Bumfuck IV to Chaos theoretically has an impact to the wider galaxy even if it's in practice too small to change the status quo. Maybe that planets put them one step closer to launching an invasion of a more important neighboring system like Necromunda or Ultramar.In AOS you have these vaguely defined infinite planes (that despite being places like the realm of fire or metal are still all somehow populated by leftover 16th century German peasants from WFB) that make it hard to contextualize the stakes. Like, what does it matter to Sigmar if the city of Bumfuckburg in the realm of fire falls to Chaos? The planes are infinite and distances are meaningless because you travel through portals, so you can't really place the loss on a map, and since there's an infinite amount of similar cities the loss doesn't matter.
>>97762609I don't play WHFB. I just came here to laugh at Smegma trannies.
>>97762413This is what zoomer retards don't understand. The Warhammer universes of Fantasy and 40k were never meant to be developing stories with new events and a plot etc. They were designed as settings, a backdrop for your miniatures to have battles in. A permanent status quo was the intent, because Warhammer is not a story. It's a game, a setting. You make your own stories.The Horus Heresy shit really did kill Warhammer
>>97762691Nah dude the Mortuary Factory is of vital strategic importance! We can't let it fall to the Noun Verbers!
>>97759226Good
>>97762691>the planes are infinite They're not>distances are meaningless since you can travel through portalsThus giving some places the easiest justification ever for why they're important, they've got a portal>you can't really place the loss on a mapWhy wouldn't youBumfucksburg holds the exact same importance to sigmar as the bumfuck iii system does to the imperium.
>>97759226I understand preferring aos to whfb or tow in terms of rules, or models, but for the life of me I cannot imagine someone liking the aos setting over the warhammer fantasy one. Ot's just so blatantly inferior.
>>97762748you never read any AoS source material so you dont know anything about the setting.
>>97762705I was talking about 40k
>>97762748I like whfb more personally but I can easily see why someone would prefer something like aos over whfb's real-life-but-with-orcs thing.
>>97762730>Bumfucksburg holds the exact same importance to sigmar as the bumfuck iii system does to the imperium.Objectively that is the case, but for me at least there is a big difference between one existing in a physical galaxy that you can see on a map and that we have at least some kind of real-world frame of reference to, and the other existing in a vaguely defined elemental realm that's one of a bunch of similar themed realms.The nature of the 40k galaxy is also more suitable for creating your own dudes: like if you say your Marines are based on the Eastern Fringe or near the Eye of Terror you immediately get some idea who they might be mostly fighting (Tau and 'Nids in the former, Chaos in the latter), what notable planets are nearby, etc. In AoS the realms mostly lead to cosmetic theming, like my "guys are from the realm of fire so they wear red and have flaming weapons", not so much about how they interact with the wider setting.
>>97762770I didn't need to read WHFB books to like the setting, but I'm sure it's one of those "it's good once you're 100 hours in" experiences
>>97762471>That SCE was made by a literal trannyis this real ? do you have a name ?
>>97762791>I didn't need to read WHFB books to like the settingso you know nothing about either setting.you are a low IQ pleb that only likes things that are superficially similar to things that you already know and propably a TWW tertiary.your opinion is worthless.
>>97762785>and that we have at least some kind of real-world frame of reference toI think this is a much more fair criticism and I even agree that this is one of the major differences in the "feel" between aos and 40k, despite how similar they are underneath.
You simply can’t only do good in the table top space. AoS often was the laughing stock on more lore/video game communities No fan animations, no memes, and overall lacked a presence GW wanted. Just doing good table top wise is like what other TT companies want and GW wants more
AoS sucks ass and deserves death. Keep seething and wailing impotently that I don't read your gay ass BLslop literature after your first edition fucked everything up and poisoned the wellI literally sit here doing nothing and keep winning
>>97759226https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZaGYphtr7E
>>97759226>aos gets nuked to make it more in line with warhammer fantasy, which would be an admission from gw themselves that nuking the setting was a terrible decision Would be absolutely hilarious.
>>97762873Not even playing games?
>>97763002Only if you count total war
>>97762785>The nature of the 40k galaxy is also more suitable for creating your own dudes: like if you say your Marines are based on the Eastern Fringe or near the Eye of Terror you immediately get some idea who they might be mostly fighting (Tau and 'Nids in the former, Chaos in the latter), what notable planets are nearby, etc. In AoS the realms mostly lead to cosmetic theming, like my "guys are from the realm of fire so they wear red and have flaming weapons", not so much about how they interact with the wider setting.it shows you have no idea about the setting.>my guys are in the eastern parts of the great parch>where the skaven and hashut are, also the slayers>well my guys are on the border of Ossia>oh, right, where the Ossiarchs are from, makes sense>my people are to the north of Ecxelsis, where the swamps full of greenskins and the ogres arethere, wasnt that hard
>>97763114No one knows what that made up shit is because your fluff is not worth engaging with in the first place
Sigmar hating the "Mortal realms" and wanting to RETVRN to grog world was always canon
>>97762801I think she might just be Slavic, so merely a spiritual tranny. She's certainly one of the instawhore "28" set, her other work usually involves sculpting giant erect cocks on things so there's something wonky going on there.The more valid complaint about it is it was made explicitly to mock WHFB fans depressed by GW killing their favourite setting, because WHFB was Heckin' Problematic so obviously the only reason anyone would prefer it to Stunning And Brave AoS is they're a doggone bigotchud who should be made fun of. I'm only very slightly exaggerating for effect.
I love not giving a single shit about settings or story. The only difference between my TOW skaven and my AoS skaven are the base shapes and color schemes.
>>97763140>The more valid complaint about it is it was made explicitly to mock WHFB fans depressed by GW killing their favourite settinglooks more like a simple "hey what if stormcast existed in 1995, wouldn't that be funny" to me
>>97763170what are you talking about?
>>97759226Good riddance. Just bring back proper fantasy.
>>97763206...the stormcast?what were you talking about?
>>97759226Most likely bullshit, but even if it turns out to be true, it will still end up having more actual players than TOW lmaoooooooooooo
>>97762714>Company run by boomers and genXers push for serial stories>"FUCKING 20 year olds zoomers"
>>97763140its half true, for everyone normal whfb there's two chuds crying about troons and how brets are white.
>>97762342People who actually play the game don't care how if Ghyran is controlled by Nurgle. At least with the realms it actually makes sense for any faction to fight each other.
>>97762484Yeah because it's not fucking real go outside if you want find something that matters
>>97761174Seething man-thing, yes yes!
I want this to happen purely for one reason: even the staunchest of Sigmarsissies will have to admit that two reboots in 5 years mean objective failure
>>97763993the sales grow with every reboot, we can't stop winning
>>97762714>The Horus Heresy shit really did kill WarhammerLike Primaris, you're allowed to not like it but it was blatantly successful.HH is weird though because it combines the worst of BL plotfagging with the best of FW rivet counting. It also can't deviate too much because the broad strokes of what happened have been around since 1e.41k is the real shitshow, as well as the actual progression of the plot.
>>97763745nah the realms just suck, we'll be better off without them, nobody truly cared about them
>>97763993>two rebootsHuh?
>>97763170NTA, but I also thought it followed in the proud tradition of not taking the settings too seriously.
>>97764374The great squatting of Sigmarines was the Primaris moment of AoS so I count it as reboot
>>97763170It's not, she says as much in the blogpost.
>>97765118That's retarded
>>97761811credible leakers, reason to hate GW and it'd be funny watching all the meltdowns this'd cause
>>97763288You're a fucking retarded moronic child. Please kill yourself post haste.
>>97763745Why the fuck are you so hung up on having an explanation for a battle? I don't fucking get it. Who cares? You kids are fucking stupid.
>>97766679>not playing narrative campaignsBet you're some kind of tourneyfag
>>97763325Disliking troons and asserting the factual reality that Brets are white(and male) IS normal, you freakish subnormal.
>>97764154>41k is the real shitshowI dont get how its 2026 and people still dont know how centuries are counted.
>>97762873i agree anon, how are you gonna add a dinosaur faction and not have a fucking t-rex.dumb fucking smegma niggers deserve the rope for supporting such dogshit.
>>97761807Now. Nu-AOS is going to be a soft-Not!Old World Fantasy setting. Less cartoonish pauldrons, Sigmarines are a "who the fuck knows" as far as what will happen to them. Sigmar is dead and the world will be eerily similar to Warhammer Fantasy
>>97768326>not!oldworld>less cartoonish pauldrons
>>97768306>i agree anon, how are you gonna add a dinosaur faction and not have a fucking t-rex.Huh?
>>97768552>T-Rex>Giant forearms
>new everchosenIt will be Archaon's new champion, a stronk black womyn who aint got no time fo' dat!
>>97768575Good that they got rid of that. Was the lamest part of those bums anyway.T. Allosaurus fan
>>97762119>It's like if 40k suddenly went from having an entirely galaxy to taking place on a single planet.There's a difference: the galaxy is finite, there's a limited number of planets, losing a planet is a major blow to the Imperium, every planet matters, there's a stake and a risk involved.In AoS the kingdoms are infinite (?), you lost a city? Who cares? There are infinitely more!
>>97768931They're not infinite. I don't know where this misconception comes from.>losing a planet is a major blow to the imperiumLol
Anyone actually try posting at that TGA board where the leaks came from?The vibe is 100%:>Do you condemn Warhammer Fantasy Battles?>Do you believe Age of Sigmar has the right to exist?>It's anti-sigmaric to call Age of Sigmar a failed IP
>>97768638I want them to do this, it'd be so funny.
>>97768967I mean yeah they're the equivalent of grognards for aos. Same type of people who would've set their dark elves on fire 10 hears ago.
>>97762730>They're notRealms in Age of Sigmar are not technically infinite, but they are "near-infinite" or functionally endless to mortals (whatever that means.)
>>97768962>They're not infinite. I don't know where this misconception comes from.Then enlighten us, anon, explain to us why the realms are not infinite despite all the evidence indicating otherwise.
>>97768975Grognards will actually argue with their foes, the hugbox fags at The Trans Alliance just call their 79 IQ mods to delete everyone's posts
>>97769014Unfortunately you fell into a well-known trap of the AoSisterhood.There are an abundance of AoS quotations that say things like, "One could not cross a Realm in a lifetime if they spent every waking moment running, they are functionally infinite" so the Sisters think they have you pinned by a technicality.It does nothing to take the edges off the argument you're shoving up their ass, but they glow in the comfort of having been technically correct.
>>97768931>galaxy is finite, there's a limited number of planets, losing a planet is a major blow to the Imperium, every planet matters, there's a stake and a risk involvedI don't know where you came from but you haven't been on /tg/ very long if you think writing that won't get you dogpiled. Or maybe that's the goal. Whatever, I'll get the copypasta.>Reminder that you can destroy infinite Imperial worlds and the writers will keep creating new ones. Destroy as many as you want, the Imperium will always have more. So long as it's not an actual plot important place like Terra or Ultramar, the Imperium can suffer any number of losses because the worlds you destroyed literally didn't exist before the story that destroyed them.And sadly, it's too true for Warhammer settings. Always some new never before seen town or village in the Empire to be destroyed as part of a new character's backstory, always a new Chaos Lord with>The destruction of X >Razing of Y or another achievement beating up a planet nobody's heard of until then.Another anons post in another thread called it resume padding and it's the best description I've heard for it. Another post described it like a new procedurally generated level being beaten for the purpose of being beaten.
There are as many Elves or Eldar as the story needs. The Imperium has as many planets or men to lose as the narrative requires.
>>97768980>>97769014>>97769048>despite all the evidence pointing otherwiseHuh? They're just not. They all have a clearly defined edge. They're just fuckhuge. Picrel shows for example the relation between a single continent and the rest of aqshy. They're honestly not even THAT large in the grand scheme of things. Certainly several orders of magnitude smaller than the galaxy of 40k. I think the quote in question is that it would take a mortal a lifetime to travel from one edge to the other. Which seems fairly consistent, I mean it's like what, 20 earths?
>>97769062I wish I had as many elves as I need...
>>97765118>great squatting of Sigmarinesthat never happened
They should simply undo the End Times and make the Old World's setting more world spanning in order to include new factions.I feel like Age of Sigmar had potential initially but the way the realms worked was off from the beginning, they should've ripped off D&D more.
>>97769062not in Fantasy: our characters die for real, our cities burn for real, our maps change for real.Go back to 40kuck for meaningless plot developments with no impact
>>97769427Not him but is this a troll post? >There are as many Elves as the story needscame from Fantasy fans asking about how Fantasy stories can have thousands of Elves dying like nothing and still be a>dying raceinstead of extinct. >our maps change for real.Because of different maps between editions rearranging the geography again. Setting's less consistent than Hyrule.
>>97769427>:our characters die for realBefore or after the exaggerated mess that's 8ed? 8ed lore is just pure wank of them wrecking everyone from bretonnia to tomb Kings. There’s all kinds of ridiculous feats like a khaine crusade going all the way from bretonnia to Nehekara and annihilating everyone they come across, or lobotomizing a slann, or btfoing Karl Franz so bad he had to be dragged off the battlefield by his generals or he would have lead all the empire men to their deaths. Also characters die for real? Yeah right Karl totally died there. Anyone that dies is like a new char they just introduced for the sake of dying in another character's backstory
>mfw those grenadiers and the tower
