I hear occasionally in ttrpg circles "roll to confirm crit". Now what does this mean? Do you have to roll a second 20 to be able to crit?
When you make an attack roll and get a natural 20 (the d20 shows 20), you hit regardless of your target’s Armor Class, and you have scored a threat. The hit might be a critical hit (or "crit"). To find out if it’s a critical hit, you immediately make a critical roll—another attack roll with all the same modifiers as the attack roll you just made. If the critical roll also results in a hit against the target’s AC, your original hit is a critical hit. (The critical roll just needs to hit to give you a crit. It doesn’t need to come up 20 again.) If the critical roll is a miss, then your hit is just a regular hit.A critical hit means that you roll your damage more than once, with all your usual bonuses, and add the rolls together. Unless otherwise specified, the threat range for a critical hit on an attack roll is 20, and the multiplier is ×2.
>>97760606My character got crit 3 times last session. Thankfully, his armor enhancement gives him 20% concealment (miss chance), which managed to prevent two of the 3 crits.He still went down to the negatives and had to top himself up with a Heal spell.Shit was nuts.
Reading the rules explains the rules.
>>97760606what gaem
>>97760606it's a rule in DND 3.0/3.5/Pathfinder.You roll a second time to see if you could have hit normally. If you do, you get the bonus damage, if not it's just a guaranteed hit.
Confirming crits is a dogshit mechanic
>>97761088This, especially in a system in which "critical" his aren't actually critical.
>>97761106Yeah, I got rid of confirming crits almost as soon as I implemented in my group. They didn't last two game sessions. Afaik, no one liked them. It stung my players a bit to roll a nat20 but not crit so I got rid of it. Very counter-intuitive rule
>>97761088I kind of get why, considering how high you can get your crit range.But then, it would be simpler to not have ways to extend the crit range that much.But then again! If it didn't have a bunch of retarded options, it wouldn't be the beautiful mess that it is.I love 3.5e so much.
>>97760606Depends on what system. Which is?
>>97762440Hey, you're allowed your opinion. To me, 3.x is a power gamer nightmare. To you, it is bliss. We can all get along as long as we don't denigrate each other. I'll stand by this statement until the day I die (2032)
>>97762476Different flavors for different palates.And yeah, lots of white rooming and such, but once you sit on the table with a bunch of people you know who are on the same wave length, it's fucking delightful.>t. Began playing 3.5e this decade, straight into a high level campaign
>>97762495Man, I ran 3.x a lot and while we always had fun with it, it seemed like certain levels you achieved were a lot more fun than others. I plotted it out once and it only had like 5 really fun levels. I forgot what those were but yeah. And people always wanted to do weird shit with it that it wasn't meant to do but that's one of 3.x's strengths, I thought. It's super adaptable. I could modify any rule I wanted pretty easily and even with unintended results, it could be a lot of fun. Feat taxes suck tho. I could go on but I digress because I feel like you are having fun with it and I won't shit on that.
>>97762522>Feat taxes suck tho.Put that on a fucking shirt man.Also, everything depending on fucking dodge or toughness.The system undeniably has a lot, a lot, a lot of weaknesses and pitfalls, and things that are arguably "bad", so I do get all the shitting on the system and don't even disagree with most of the criticism.But fuck am I having fun.
>>97762539Add long as you're having fun. I will never shit on that. 3.x almost gets to where I want to go with an rpg but in those least levels, 15-20, it really shits the bed. Savage Species was an awesome idea that almost got it right but ultimately couldn't cross the finish line. Illithid assassins, yes please. Same with the Epic level book though the monsters in that are I N S A N E. I used them quite often and still do just to put the fear of God into players. Now the psionic book was tight af and it's probably the best psi book in the whole franchise of d&d and I'll die happily on this hill. I do want to talk about Savage Species for a moment tho. Everything about that book was really good just about. Magic items, new weapons, new feats. Just about everything. I will now post some images that I like
>>97762641Another. Look at this absolute unit.
This to me is a Paragon Illithid and to date, not one of my players have ever defeated one. They are too canny. Look at this guy. If you saw this in a dark alley, you should shit your breeches
>>97761088Imagine a warrior wearing an almost impenetrable plate armor. You still have a 5% to hit this warrior no matter what. That's already a stretch.... BUT WAIT, without crit confirmation, it also means that 100% of your rare hits against this warrior are also going to be critical hits.Nah dog, that's fucking stupid. Without crit confirmation combat looks goofy, like some anime battle.
>>97763774Your crits SHOULD BE crits. How is that even debatable? Ain't none of ts realistic and never has been
>>97763774I mean... yeah? A critical hit by nature is one that strikes at a highly vulnerable spot.
>>97761088Critical hits are a dogshit mechanic as well.
>>97765586So the chance to get a critical hit against a unarmored enemy should be the same against a fully armored enemy? Nah dog, that low key makes no fucking sense.
>>97765841Rolling is a dog shit mechanic already
>>97764384confirming crits comes from an era of 3e when criticals could start as early as a 15 if you had built to fish them. This even meant that you could crit hitting bellow their AC. They compensated punishing everyone by adding a second roll that didn't need to crit but it needed to at least hit the AC.
>>97765933Let's be honest here anon, if your opponent is so heavily armored you can't even touch them except on a nat20, you are NOT getting out of that encounter alive so it's a moot point.
>>97763774>>97765933Why not give the heavily armored enemy a feature that makes them immune to crits from attackers that are under a certain level? Why does it specifically need to be rolling the dice again and wasting time to see of the peasant with a dagger did 4 damage instead of 2?
>>97766024Living is a dog shit mechanic
>>97765841Yeah? What makes you say that? Curious
>>97760606>>97760631It's worth noting this is also only relevant to certain games and is by no means universal
>>97762729>>97762661>>97762641worthless fucking moron
>>97766181>>97761088It's bad because most of the time characters have good odds of hitting their enemies anyway, so the "auto hit" benefit of a nat20 rarely matters. So in 95% of the time, rolling a nat 20 becomes all about the critical hit part, but then having to confirm it feel shitty.Confirming crits feels like it makes sense when a character could only hit an enemy with a natural 20, but that rarely happens anyway. It's a mechanic that makes sense in term of general balance, but in practice it's retarded because it feels like you're going through all this redundant bureaucracy for the sake of "mechanical consistency" instead of having fun, like most of 3e rules.
>>97760927That's actually not true a lot of the time. If it were true, rules arguments wouldn't exist.
>>97768043I couldn't find anything but png formatted pictures, faggot
>>97760606It's a 3.X retardation in actionNEXT!
>>97769375>cant crop his screenshots>cant post PNGsworthless. fucking. moron.
>>97771257Turn on your monitor
>>97771869learn how to crop screenshots and learn how to post a PNG you feckless little faggot
>>97767486Dogs are mechanics
>>97760606its a normal mechanic in dark eye
>>97772134I can't be bothered to make you happy because I don't give a fuck about your happiness at all. In fact, I'll do it again just to spite you. Thanks for the roadmap
>>97773139>im proud to be ignorant and stupid at the same time!good for you, child
>>97760631what a terrible-sounding system
>>97773342Keep seething over me. That's not gay at all
>>97773730learn how to crop screenshots and learn how to post a PNG
>>97776738To appease the gods of 4chan? I literally don't care. I'll do it just to spite you all, now. Thanks for the roadmap
