>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, Open Combat, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, SAGA, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Goblin King Games, Lucid Eye, Mantic,North Star Military Figures, OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat,Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zgPrevious Thread:>>97696667 >TQWhat dead game would you offer up your kidney to see be re-released?
Models look cool. Sell me on it. I have two players willing to try it if I can convince them to play.
>>97764225>What dead game would you offer up your kidney to see be re-released?You posted it.
>>97764363At least you can still find the stl files for free by just searching for Halo fleet battles.Run them in Full Thrust or Void Admiral
>>97764225Fleet Battles...my beloved...
>>97764225>TQ
Been working on Turnip28 guys.
>>97765271I know WW2 aesthetics are pushing it for Turnip28, but I'm trying to use whatever spare bitz I have to clear out my bins
>>97764288Idk about FB but its a cool game, there were few dudes on awg playing it as well but every mention of conquest turns into a dialog tree with retards so most probably moved to discord
What is people opinion on Eldfall Chronicles?I'm having a lot of fun, specially with the single player PvE side.Also have had fun in the PvP side, specially with some local friendly tournaments that allowed the local community to grow quite a lot, considering the entry point being quite cheap (for miniature games standard).
>>97765432>turns into a dialog tree with retards so most probably moved to discordQRD?
>>97764225>TQI already shipped for Dark Age last time we asked about ded games that would be great to see again. But if we're down to my last kidney I'd still consider it.
I just finished some Halo actually.
>>97762747>So you play on a single map that gets damaged as you play. Okay this could be neat. Do you mean a single local area campaign map or that the terrain for that specific battle is destructible?
>>97764225>TQ>What dead game would you offer up your kidney to see be re-released?Well, it WAS Heroscape but that actually did get a revival, so at this point, AT-43. I want more Therians, the best example of post-singularity humanity in both tabletop AND fiction. Wonderful.
>>97765907Getting the GI Joe set, anon?>>97764816Anima Tactics for me personally, but man would be amazing to see either come back. Asmode has the license.
>>97764225Ah, if only
>>97765968I was really impressed by the epoch and the frigates are super cute. I actually have a couple more ships to paint.
>>97765919Not for a while, trying to get more VC and Classic figures first, as well as converting the CMON He-Man game for Heroscape. However, the usual host we play with has gotten EVERYTHING G.I. Joe, he grew up through the 80's, so he's nostalgic. Honestly, not even upset, he wasn't into the game before this crossover, now we've played twice in as many weeks. Are you getting any Joescape?
>>97766111Kind of in the same boat, though plan to slowly pick-away at whatever our local gets in-stock. What kinda teams you play recently anyway? Gonna be running Caraway Cavern box this Sunday, not sure what I'll throw together with it yet. Maybe some polar bears since they can become pirates under crimson widow.
Why doesnt conquest get a video game? I have no idea what the lore is and I refuse to read it.
>>97764225>TQDark Age. But jokes on them, I'm in late stage renal failure, so that kidney is worthless.
>>97764225Chronopia but it will be re-releseed soon tm so i guess ill keep my kidney
>>97765907>HeroscapeHow is it? It's crazy popular, but I know nothing about it.
Speaking of resurrected AWG games, new Warzone Eternal release for Adepticon.
>>97766583
>>97764225>tqfirestorm armada :(
Last thread someone posted about a game called Heroic! which was an MESBG based fantasy game. Can anyone give me more details? Not surprisingly the name is hard to search.
He's shy
>>97765810>bugs with fuel rodThe horror!
>>97766216I really don't have a favorite team/army list because there's so many I like to use and try, but if I was forced into something, I would probably have to say I love the Skordyre, won multiple games because of that ball o' bugs.>>97766341>It's crazy popularNot in any way I have seen. Like, not at all and I'm not even comparing it to niche as Battletech.>How is it?If you don't like Unit Cards, Alternating activations, and game unique dice, walk away. Otherwise, really fucking great, I love it.
>>97769305seconding interest for this if anyone has it. Searching MESBG + heroic just brings up heroic actions.That said a generic version of MESBG doesn't have to be much more than just changing the names of units. It's not like a gondor spearman is any different from any other medieval spearman
Adepticon is happening, anything interesting to keep an eye on?
>>97769695
Quar players: tell me about armies in this game. What are their playstyles etc.
>>97771920There are no quar players but there are some quar painters
>>97771590
>>97771920As far as I can tell (just from reading the rulebook, because >>97772504 is right and I only paint them) the armies are all function mostly pretty similar with their rhyflers (riflemen) and machine gunners but each have different specialists>Crusaders use shotguns for close combat and "torpedos" like panzerfausts for anti-tank>Coftyrans use swords and SMGs for close combat and have crewed anti-tank guns>Fidwog puts their LMGs on tankettes and cavalry, their close combat guys are miners that can pop out in the middle of the field and their anti-tank is short range hand thrown explosive javelins>Arnyarans are shit at shooting but make up for it with more group movement and close combat sword and dual pistol guys and they also have motorcycles>Creevin has no models so I don't know but they're coming "soon"There's also some smaller factions that are mostly the same as their major ones with like one different specialist>Gwynt for Coftyrans trade sword guys for shotgunners>Toulmore for Crusaders trade torpedos for mortars>Gloam Hyyn has a bunch of attack lizards but not much else
>TQMechwarrior Dark Age. Was it good? Eh, maybe. Did my friends and I have a hell of a lot of fun playing it? Hell yes.
>>97773470Ahh fuck off captcha
>>97768208me too. Never did manage to get a game with my Dindrendzi
Anyone know any 6mm combined arms sci fi games? I keep finding sick 6mm scifi terrain and mini but I haven't found a single ruleset for them
>>97774047Laser storm.Stargunt.Company Commander + In SpaceHardwar.
>>97774047full spectrum dominancestrike legionbut 6mm looks like shit: 3mm is where it's at (same as 32mm vs 15mm)
>>977743623mm is retarded, at that scale I'd just play hex and chit. 15mm is great, I play Napoleonics in 15. However I want to use battletech mechs, so 6mm infantry is the scale I need
>>97774572>at that scale I'd just play hex and chitidiotic3mm is best looking small scale
>>97774689I guess bro ..
>>97776203pic relatedhis bases are obviously too big (2 tank and a squad instead of a platoon would be better)but it looks a lot cooler than epic (both the square and the even more laughable line bases)
>>97774689>>97776281>His Post your 3mm armies anon.
>>97776281>gay warhammer shit>anon doesn't even own any of the 3mm models he's raving on aboutLike clockwork
>>97766583>>97766590Yeah their abilities suck.they just act as leaders for centurions and necromurants and their gimmick is they are true to the RPG art but we're never released as minis but they have zero interesting abilities or reason to be an entirely different symmetry aligned furry species.
>>97771920anon >>97773362 is mostly right but very broad strokes>Crusader standard squads have big rifle dudes that partially negate cover and HURT vehicles>also have pathfinder specialists with shotguns that can forward deploy and get cover bonuses>Coftyrans have LMG gunners in standard squads>also sniper specialists with limited AT powerCrusader standard rifles are not as accurate at longer range as Coftyran, but have a smaller negative modifier for snapshotting. So the former is more mobile-on-the-offense while the latter is better at range and defensive.This is actually where the game is a bit same-y, every factions' basic rifle has either the Crusader's or Coftyr's stat at this point. I think with one exception.But every faction, even the one's that are clearly not finished and are getting new units slowly have some twist to them.Gwynt is clearly Coftyr but with no sharpshooters, raiders and LMG. Instead they have an extra SMG in the standard squad and faster grenade throwers. Also they can do the pic rel without spending "Pluck" points. ("Support" is something the basic rifle dudes of every faction have). But they are also getting something similar to pathfinders soon.Toulmore is Crusaders but elite, higher base stats, more expensive, have some brutal and unique specialists too.There are also mounted troops soon, Arnyarans already have bikers.Tollyn Maeryn is pretty unique too, and two other minor STL factions(the "Tall Hats") are partially out now, one with double LMGs in base squad and the other with throwable spears and anti-personnel splagen torpedos.The rules and unit profiles are up on Rhyfler.com for free, so you can check it all. Bit weird that the details of abilities and equipment are in the rulebook pdf that also went to print and not in the profiles book. Inconvenient, and what if they want to change them for balance or whatever...?
>>97776932Their purpose is to allow an elite Algeroth force. You take an Alpha with the special forces asset, take your two Centurions as troops, who don't lose their SP allotments, and now you have 9 SP to bring in Stalkers, Razides, and Furies. An Alpha, 2 Centurions, and 2 Stalkers/a Fury and a Razide is 40 DP. The Alpha also carries a 36" smoke launcher. I wouldn't thumb my nose at the ability to land a 4" LoS blocker wherever you want.The non-Alpha one is just a better Centurion for a Necromutant heavy force, since he gives them all Determination. His biggest drawback is the lack of SP. You're getting a Tormentor or a Fury with him, and that's it. So centurions as a leader is still viable if you want to take a Razide or a Stalker with your Necros.They're not amazing, but they do open up play options if you don't want to play the horde-ish side of Algeroth.
>>97766583Dumb Adepticon question, are there any decent channels or resources to get ALL the news that comes outta this thing, or am I gonna have to go do a really annoying hunt to try find everything that may or may not have been revealed?
Been reading through Open Combat. Haven't tried it yet, but seem like a pretty neat simple system, reminds me of Sword Weirdos. I like the front/rear facing mechanic, small skills and abilities in it like intimidate, taunt etc. My only gripe is that while it says you can "proxy" magic with and fantasy elements with things like wizard magic bolt being just an equipped bow weapon in how it works or a skeleton having the Intimidate/Distract abilities to represent it's undead nature, it feels a bit bare and tacked-on. Campaign and scenario rules I haven't read properly yet, but seems alright. It's a good chunk, like the quarter of the rulebook just those.Also found that the creator had health issues and recently came back and planning to add more to the system so that's nice.
>>97772504>want to play quar>find a facebook group supposedly for quar players in my native language>there's zero organic discussion, just 'F'LGS employees posting thinly veiled ads
>>97776664>>97776709I'll never post things here that could identify me anywhere else, lol
>>97778786Cope.
>>97774047Future War Commander (old not new)Dirtside 2GRUNTZ
>>97771920Crusader lean mobility and Royalist lean defensive (which makes sense, as the Crusaders are largely the offensive force in the wars)A regular crusader squad mixes semi auto rifles with high caliber anti armor rifles.Toulmore is more elite (higher base stats), representing them being hard-fighting quar after being occupied for so many years. They can mix in an odd royalist weapon and have some unique weapon options (mini-mortars).Tollyn Maeryn are composed of militia as basic troops. So they are cheap but unreliable.Royalists (ie, Coftyr) basic squads bring a machine gun. Otherwise the whole squad has bolt action rifles so is worse on the move but have better range. Gwynt loses the machinegun for shotguns or grenadiers. They are also more disciplined than coftyr.Fidwog are midgets and rely on attached squad tractors for support. Their rifles are like Crusader bogen semi auto's instead of royalist bolt action harlechs and an LMG. Their NCO's can hand out a buffs to the grunts that help them advance alongside the tractors. So they are sort of a crusader/royalist hybrid in playstyleArnyra and Gloam Hynn are weird neutrals. Arnyra uses SMG's but has weak basic troops that rely on being buffed by NCO's Inspiring Presence. Gloam Hynn use carbines that are the worst of both worlds compared to bogens and harlechs. They are supposed to use terrain to their advantage and also get access to a Squeedle squad tractor for support similar to Fidwog.
>>97778786Cope more pussy lmao
>>97778786Weak
What is the best fleet game and why it's Dropfleet Commander?
>>97787581Battlefleet Gothic and Halo Fleet Battles are both better
Has anyone shared the new Konflikt 47 Festung Europa book?Store got shorted a shipment so no idea when my physicals is showing.
>>97788861>Big Fucking Gun>better
>>97787581Starmada Fleet Ops
>>97788984Correct
>>97789247If it's so good, why does it need fan-editions to stay relevant?
>>97789298It doesn't. But just like every game that is abandoned by its publisher, gamers want more new things all the time, so they made their own. Don't be a retard anon.
>>97764225>Fleet battlesIsn't it one of the main plot points of Halo that human fleets just get bodied?
>>97789693Precisely the point. You need to play the objective, you need to gang up on enemy battlegroups and make your MAC salvos count, you need to get your Spartans on enemy ships to take them out from the inside, you need to play smart.
>>97789422Ah, so it's not relevant at all. Strange how that anon said it was the best. Oh well.
>>97790547Best doesn't mean most popular you fucking spastic. Final (You) because you're stupidity is dragging me down.
>>97790691So "best" doesn't mean anything, since no other criteria was offered. Count to ten and remember the others can't hear the voices in your head you call thoughts.
>>97787581Might have been close pre-TTC, not anymore
>>97787581Full Thrust mogs all
There's never been 1/400 scale or 28mm Transformers models has there? Looking something like that for a game but my Google-fo has failed me.
>>97792084Botwar looked neat, haven't tried it.
Old Lego buildings
Does anyone play critter conflicts?
KINO is back on the menu, boys.
>>97794248nah, but I have seen it on X
>>97794199What are they?
>>97790760Am I watching an autist accidentally discover the existence of subjective taste?Relevant doesn't really mean anything either, it's a word that's been abused by 40kfags to mean a synonym of popular which you're laughably using on /awg/. Nothing we play is "relevant".Anyway it couldn't be more obvious that the original poster was almost certainly trying to prompt discussion about space games with an inflammatory post.
>>97788861Wasn't halo just a firestorm reskin?
>>97794642Don't waste your time talking to retards anon
>>97794361Good reveals, but man the presentation was rough. Matt going "Fuck yea- Oh right, can't say that at Adepticon" did make me laugh. Any of the reals you interested in? I wasn't going to initially, but the warlocks sold me on Fanes as army to pick up and otherwise going to pick up Blaize, though wish she had an animosity rule as it's bizarre that she can work for an Infernalist army of all things.
>>97795063Has the keynotes been uploaded anywhere yet? I didn't realize they were today.
>>97795063>>97795110Oh, damn, didn't realize it was a few days ago. Really out of touch.Also, this is just straight up Dracula.
>>97777048So you agree with me 100%. Good you're not a idiot then.
>>97794361What game is this even for? >30mm Disgusting
>>97795176He's the reason why I decided to play. The lady with oversized sword is nice too ofcourse.Well I am a sucker for vampires.
>>97795181I don't think they suck, I just don't see them as a must take, which is a good sign of game balance.I do hope we see some stuff for the other factions soon, though. So far, 2 Dark Legion releases and one Cybertronic. We know the Wolfbanes and Samurai were being worked on, so where are they?>>97795204This is closer to what I wanted when Dusk was announced, instead of just blue elves. I know Kallyss is mostly freshly turned, but I wanted my Nosferatu-looking Eldritch fuckers.
>>97794771>don't post in /awg/
>>97794642Yet BFG fans couldn't bring out one (1) argument why it's good yet alone the best.
I own an entire UNSC Fleet for Halo Fleet Battles.Should I post it?
>>97795063The MCP reveals were a bit lackluster over on AMG's side. On the plus side, we did at least get full spoilers for the new Sentinels.Bastion is hilariously undercosted, Omega is Prowler with Visions defensive superpowers and Nimrod is a tank.Overall I'd say the faction needed the shot in the arm this represents in a big way.
>>97795293I've already seen the models before adepticon for MCP, so I didn't care too much (beyond wanting to buy most of them already because I like the characters), but I am curious about Shatterpoint and Legion. The legion stuff looks good, it's such a big improvement over what legion used to look like quality wise. Did they show off the sequel models at Adepticon for Shatterpoint though?Wonder if Omega Sentinel going to have multiple heads (three preferably), since her model had the hair version while the art is the bald version.
>>97795268For sure, its always neat to see people's models.
>>97795314We know Omega will have multiple heads. I've been waiting on Nimrod personally, and I think he's fine, albeit less busted than the 4 threats. Mostly as the impetus to get those third party Sentinel prints styled on the Capcom fighting game versions.We also were told that Red Hulk and The Leader were getting new factions to be leaders of, Ross is Thunderbolts and The Leader's was called The Intelligencia, and said to be a faction of super-scientist villains. Which leads to some cool theorizing as to who would be on it. At least one MODOK and Klaw for sure, probably an Otto and definitely Mr Sinister. Norman too maybe, since he is, famously, something of a Scientist as well.They did have sequel characters for Shatterpoint, I remember that, but Legion got a TON of content. They are fully embracing that game in a way that X-Wing wasn't.
>>97795346Oh, Thunderbolts? Well shit, excited at prospect of OG Thunderbolts team coming then alongside MAYBE Hawkeye from said era. Would be nice. I even bought 3D prints of them to sub as other characters, excited to try them out once painted and hopefully get real rules.
>>977953361500pts, though I have a fair bit more unbuilt. Painted and based in about a week for a past AdeptiCon, much sleep was lost trying to get it done in time.I love the Marathon so fit a fair number into my fleet.Also play Battlefleet Gothic and Dropfleet. All great games, Gothic has the vibes for me and I love the randomness, HFB is really unique and I love how they captured Halo space combat and Dropfleet is simple and fairly intuitive; though I must confess most of my experience comes from 1.0.
>>97795439All ships are prints as well, didn't have access to original models but the files in the HFB Discord are fantastic and covered everything for me.I have a sizable Ground Command Army as well
>>97795439>>977954573D prints?
>>97795476Yeah all 3D Resin prints, community has a very talented 3D modeler who created free stls for the HFB community to use. They have them all hosted on a Google Drive, linked on their Discord.
>>97795501I've got two starter sets worth of the OG ships and bases with all the dice etc included, just haven't got around to playing it in over a decade, my brother and I will probably dip into it next time we're in the mood for something space orientated. Great game, glad to see you;re having fun, the community is super supporitve.
>>97795428There's not a lot of either MCU or comics TBolts in the game as it is, so it leaves room for expansion certainly. Best as I can remember all we have currently is Winter Soldier, Red Guardian and TECHNICALLY Taskmaster from the MCU side, whilst on the comics side we have Hawkeye, Luke Cage, Zemo, and... wasn't Ross's Thunderbolts him, Venom or Agent Venom and Ghost Rider?
>>97795176I like the idea of Gunnbjorn riding a tank, I just wish it wasn't so obviously a Leman Russ.
>>97796123I do like that instead of telling them to drive closer so he can hit them with his sword, its so he can shoot them with his bazooka.
>>97794361Im hyped, but also not because its nostalgic likely >£60 for intro set>£60 for command cadre>£100 for basic box>£100 for auxiliary box>£100 for big boyI’m glad they’re keeping afloat but these 3d printed models aren’t saving me shit. Warmachine Digital meanwhile is the best thing they’ve ever done
>>97797462*most likely, not nostalgic
>>97795439Cool. I'm Halo ignorant, were there any markings or indicator details on the human ships or are they just GUNMETAL GREY?
>>97798429All steel grey, unless a prowler which would be black. Sometimes with a UNSC Eagle, hull number or ship name, almost always in white.It's specifically mentioned that Keyes' earlier ship the Iroquois had a red war-stripe applied by the shipyard that was against regs. After his first battle it was faded enough he thought he could get away with keeping it.
>>97798563Does seem to be not much opportunity to break up the colour space. How deeply into >canon is the Halo fanbase about paintjobs? It seems like a strange mix of the game story but also it was a /v/ with bright pink spartans for fun.
>>97795501>free stlsCool>all hosted on a Google DriveOh oh>linked on their DiscordGod damn it
>>97797462They did say they are changing how things are structured with Fane going forward. It sounds like a few minor cost saving changes, so we'll see how it impacts prices, though I doubt it'll be a huge change.
if a game doesn't have a very dynamic initiative system or it's something very plain, like igo-ugo or alternating unit activations, is that a dealbreaker for you or does it not matter so much?
>>97799368The activation system is the foundational mechanic of the game. Nothing else is as important as that aspect.
>>97764225How does this halo fleet game play like?
>>97795501>>97795457>>97795439looks cool, I like the flying brick aesthetic
>>97798660would be nice if 343tards would actually give us halo wars 3 instead of all this shit that is not in the games and noncanon.
>>97799840Was Halo Wars 2 any good? Picrel, my elites from Flashpoint.
>>97799910Eh, it was alright. They changed Captain Cutter into a generic speech-giving dude and I didn't like the change. Banished are worse Covenant and Isabel ain't got nothing on my girl Serina.
>>97799910Nice!
>>97795439I really wish I had some Babylon 5 ships.Really like the Centauri ships
>>97798660https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1m2-61lufETjMpgB84sNn3FcO2xhopWqo?usp=sharingHere's one of the fleets from this year's Tournament, there are definitely ways to add color. I just wanted to go with the space brick grey colorscheme out of preference. Link is to the community fleet stl drive.
>>97800501I have a large EA fleet in fleet scale. The big scale minis didn't look so good, were clunky, and had no scale to each other. Our group bought the shit out of the fleet scale ships to play B5W.
>huge lore that spans decades and keeps progressing well>A faction for every type of person>Amazing fantasy models, amazing more sci fi-ish models>Very granular and thematic rules>3d printing for out of production models and armies at an affordable price, allowing third parties to print old models and ship right to you>3d print bits for you to customise your models changing loadouts and having brainwashed versions to use in different armies>Official cosplay merchandise >Bringing back fan favorites with new models as much as is possible>Has its own rpg books Anyone who wants an /awg/ should really consider a 50 point warmachine army.
>>97800920>Entirely forgettable lore>Retarded Warcraft art direction >Rules that drive away even more players every edition >Barely any community to speak of>3d proont shit for most of the range because the company is broke and can't afford manufacturing even in the gummy plastic they used 10 years ago>Merchandise catering to the consoomer goyim underclassI think we can do better, anon
>>97801103What does this have to do with Warmachine, did you get lost on your way here?
>>97801103You say that but you literally cannot. Almost every game pales in comparison in terms of quality lore and variety of models and interesting rules. I think the wow criticism is just severely out of date and culture has wrapped back around into finding boisterous, even cartoony fantasy heroic proportions and violence is cool again.Clowning on out of production models being made available again for cheap is just pure hatecel behavior
>>97800920>>97801152ydy and keep playing with your balls of steel, but the design of these is so far into pauldroncore its gone from sad to funny to sad again.
>>97801227I think the thing is that your criticism is about 10 years out of date and 2000s edgey is coming back in anyway. Warmachine treads the line betweeny cartoony fantasy and a splash of darker fantasy quite well.If people are looking for an awg that has everything there, its definitely a good one to get intoPauldron core doesn't work as an insult anymore desuIm sick of le realism, and somehow every other fantasy wargame is allowed to be cartoony or whimsical
>>97801253No, its just cartoony. It'll probably work beacuse 4tnite and all, but its a shit aesthetic. Continue enjoying slop and shouting its gold.
>>97801267Post the other games people who want a nice fantasy wargame with a lot of lore and factions should play anonI think warmachine is a good option, I like kings of war but its very generic. And again, it just feels like your shit flinging is 10 years late, pointed at a dead company, and sculptures that dont even work on the game anymore
>>97801152They've really been killing it since Gravediggers were released.
>>97799910Halo Wars 2 was awful. Both gamewise and storywise. I firmly regret experiencing it as it was one of the major reasons I decided Halo was no longer worth my time.
>>97801253Thing is, nobody wants an ash that has everything, we want hyper specific stuff that carers to our preferences, which warmachine fails to do.>somehow every other fantasy wargame is allowed to be cartoony or whimsicalYeah, and we love cartoonist stiff like Quar or Snak28 and whimsical shit like Moonstone, Turnip28 and Burrows & Badgers. Warmachine fails to check any of those boxes, the sculpts are overdesigned without any good reason. Even if the aesthetic has evolved, it didn't grow into anything more interesting than a decade ago. No wonder the only products I've seen in the wild are old starter sets that haven't sold despite multiple heavy discounts.
I found a little 10mm scale robot game at adepticon called steel rift. I have no idea about the rules but the tiny robots are extremely cute.
>>97801733Who's "we" you retard?
>>97801918Invites were sent out a little while ago, I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
Wip Quar, I would like to play with them soon myself.
>>97800501>I really wish I had some Babylon 5 ships.>Really like the Centauri shipsI have some good news for you. https://agents-of-gaming.myshopify.com/Your choice of scales.
>>97801733>We
>>97802940>Generic green sci-fi soldier with red bull can launcher >Dogshit paintjob>Ugly troon static grassTruly, the superior aesthetic
>>97800920I only like the satyxis and I think they no longer exist so meh.
>>97802964You aee like an incel but for wargaming /awg/ isnt about shitting on other peoples models retard
>>97802974Stay mad, faggot
>>97802974You should be slapped for the mouldline and the colour choice on the tuft alone, faggot.
So I've got a game of warzone 2nd edition later this week, but I'm coming up blank on a fun scenario for my friend and I to play through. I always struggle to come up with a scenario, I'm too 40k poisoned I suppose. Anyone got an idea or two to share? I've got a collection for each of the megacorps and the dark legion, so I've got plenty to work with there.
>>97803418Check old chronicles batreps?
Considering giving myself a rule to only buy direct from first-party companies so I a) more directly support smaller businesses, and b) stop myself being tempted by third part discounts which only get added to my pile of shame
>>97803882What about hobby supplies? You're really going to order direct from static grass manufacturers?
>>97803904No, just miniatures, rules. Anything universal like paints I would continue to get as I need them.
>>97801303>Post the other games people who want a nice fantasy wargame with a lot of lore and factions should play anonThis is a weird way of thinking to go from >this game looks great and modern cool to >Well what else are they suppose to play if they want a corporate prefab setting! Using someone else's fluff has limited appeal to me and warmachine is very much about using someone else's OC donought coolsteel. Turnip 28, Sludge and TC all have a decent amount of fantastical mixed combat, factions and movement, but you're pretty far from the audience and are in grimdank burnout. A lot of the indi and smaller game producers have shifted away from the model of trying to make a sprawling setting in imitation of GW. Fantastic Battles or Horde of the Things are my goto for fantasy battles but they don't give you a bunch of pulp to browse, you have to make your own, that's a feature not a bug for me. You're stuck with what you're given if you can't create and from the looks of it you're stuck with WoW.
>>97802801Cool, any idea how big they actually are? Because I'm planning to use them in Void Admiral.So I'll need at least 4 ship types in some what clear size difference.
>>97804255We get it. You dont actually play games.
>>97802964(You)
>>97795196Warmachine30mm is the base size
>>97805367It certainly is one of the base sizes of all time.
OK, /awg/. Tell me what do you think makes for a good wargame? Mechanically speaking. I'm new to all this, but how "good" is basic warhammer 40k considered compared to other wargames and which other games do you prefer over it mechanically?Do all wargames need a proper map or can I just make stuff up with whatever I have laying around my house?
Man the gaps on this thing are so irritating it's like every goddamn piece has a huge one
>>97805408To be a good game, a wargame must have forced proprietary models in a scale that is incompatible with every other game. Think something like GW's Inquisitor, or Conquest. Keeps things streamlined, and ensures everyone is using nice models.Another good tip is to force the use of a specific app. This makes sure players are all on the same page, so to speak, and is another method of streamlining the process.
>Have cool idea for new space combat game>Putting together mechanics that seem fun>Coming up with loose lore players can insert their own stuff into>Lack artistic skill and ability to 3D model>Know fleet games never go anywhere:(
>>97805492Also use proprietorial dice, that makes the game easy to read, especially for beginners, and ensures nobody is using fudged dice since all of them come from the same source.
>>97805408>how "good" is basic warhammer 40kAwful by anyone who has played any other game. I would put nearly every other game I've ever played above it. People play it because it's all they have ever played, they care about the IP, or they are retarded.Remember, the actual game of 40k exists only to sell you 40k models, GW themselves have stated that they are primarily a models company and not a wargaming rules company.
>>97805490The best miniatures range ever, ladies and gentlemen.
>>97805525Also has simple and standardized terrain. L-shaped walls with a platform that gives things standing on it half-cover is a good start. The other terrain can just be a flat "difficult terrain" circle with half movement and a straight half-cover wall. The FPS games had it right, waist high walls are peak combat arena terrain.And obviously since it is standardized and in a proprietary scale, all the terrain should be official only too. We can have blank cardboard versions for quick and economical tournament setup.
Painting straps on helmets bedrolls and canteens
>>97805525It is important to also release new editions every other year or so, and changing the rules and game aids enough that the players need to buy them all again in order to stay up to date
>>97805595Quar are a rainbow of cuteness
>>97805601Nah, it's just on the app. Everything should be server side so updates and changes are seamless. No need for big announcements or annoying version conflicts, whatever the app tells you, that's how the game is.
>grog humour>QuarThe boomers have logged on.
>>97805723Six seven, fellow youths.
>>97805601Hopefully with a monthly subscription model, then
>>97805723It's true. Literally everyone who has ever been amazed by Quar are boomers. They take a break from Facebook mobile gaming and watching Fox News just to paint up some Quar
>>97805757Am I a boomer if I'm 36 in august? I don't use facebook or watch fox, but I like Quar. Don't own any though.
>>9780572328mm Quar is a zoomer thing, though.
How are reaper bones plastic figures to work with? Some of the models look pretty cool and are very cheap.
>>97795439You lost sleep painting those?They look like fucking bare plastic
>>97805814Yes, you are one. Millennials are the newest boomers
>>97792084These are perfect scale for Battetech, you can find rules online.
>>97805907>Yes, you are one.Learned something today
>>97805586This one has been the only pain in the ass so far but I also haven't worked with much warmachine yet. Once these khador are done I have some metal nyss coming in and those ones will be much easier
>>97804255We actually went from me saying if you want to consider playing an /awg/ I recommend Warmachine BECAUSE of its very expansive lore with history and large faction amounts that cover different tastes oh and it's cool 3d printing thing is a good step compared to deleting a huge model range as its not viable to produce anymore.You saying that you do not like pre established lore, or settings with actual characters. Or that tiny indie devs are trying to actively not compete with james by not even attempting to create a complete world with real faction dynamics is not actual criticism of warmachine.Its like saying >I think if you want to try strategy game you should try starcraftAnd you say>Ewww fuck off big pauldrons and I actually dont like games with storylines and upgrade trees and various factions. I prefer sid miers civilization.Like okay bro, you arent actually saying much at all because what YOU want in your /awg/ isnt what a considerably large amount of wargamers DO like.Your fav games are borderline generics that exist more to encourage kitbashing and fluff making rather than immersion into a storied fantasy world with lots of unique ideas written for you to discover, and designed to encourage making a list out of units that come from the pages of the rules.Its fine you don't like it but its fairly obvious when I suggest it I mean for people who are intrigued by these things. Which is a lot of people hence why warhammer 40k dominates the scene. People love the fiction, there really aren't many games still going strong that are creating their worlds and characters and units. You are more disparaging than you are inviting people into your personal preference of the indie and turnip worlds.
>>97805490To be fair its an ancient resin kit I think, nothing from that time is gapless sadly
I would be into Quar if only it were set in a whimsical horse & musket setting with cute anthropomorphic creatures standing in Napoleonic lines of battle, rather than whimsical WW1
>>97805903I think they're super easy to paint, but they are super fucking greasy so you have to wash them with soap first
>>97806108Mine's plastic, and myself I too did need to do some gap filling. The connection parts were friendly to being magentized at least, ended up using it as not only both versions BUT ALSO substituting it as Blockader when I remove the Khador markings. I do like the kit, one of my favorite of the 120mm models.
>>97806148The collosal scale warjacks just have this insanely cool vibe about them, I don't think any of them look bad when complete but shame you had a bad time with the gaps. Are you doing a certain project, it sounds interesting.
>>97805903It's a softer plastic, so getting mold lines off it sucks. Doesn't need to be truly primed, but it is hydrophobic so the first layer down needs to be mechanically thinned rather than diluted. Their own paint line is designed for that purpose. I've never had one chip or anything though. Once in a while something will be warped, especially on their larger models, but it can be fixed by submerging it in hot water and then shaping it back before it cools.
You don't know bad kits until you make a cool mini or not soda pop miniature
>>97806174Oh no I am different anon, I did not have massively bad time with the gaps. They are a slight announce compared to both other company models and other older warmachine models. When I think of bad time, I think of Mk1 stormblades and trying to attach arms to them with their beyond god-awful connection spaces. >>97806187Yeah, some of the old relic knight stuff I had was atrocious and that's from their later more improved years. Even their packaging is awful, just compare how minis are packed in Super Dungeon Explore vs Cmon's Arcadia Quest.
>>97806216Im doing some Relic blade at the moment and it seems like the worst material imaginable, I think it's poor quality resin. Joints don't go together and the detail so soooo soft. Im sticking with it because I think when they are all painted they will make a cool display
>>97806216>>97806246I fucking meant relic knights I ALWAYS mix the 2 names
>>97803683Chronicles! I'd forgotten about that magazine, thanks for the reminder, I'll check those out again after work. Another friend of mine also suggested looking over the old 40k2e mission cards for objective ideas. I'll hopefully have something good for Thursday with this direction now, and a nice battle report to share with the thread as well.
>>97806246Have you tried the revived minis from Ignition Core? It's still resin, and had a few bubbles on mine, but it's still a massive improvement and the models have a nice feel to them compared to Ninja Division/Soda Pop's version of soicast/resin/whatever material they used. Overpriced as all hell though, but I guess I can cope about only needing to buy it once.
>>97806266No I have no clue with Relic Knights, is it even in production? I see 0 coverage in all the blogs and channels I follow and I remember the website looking nice and flashy but I couldn't tell if it was still going. I'd quite like it to be successful because anime wargame is still somehow an unfilled space (as in succesful)
>>97806246>>97806266Restic, the word you're looking for is restic and it was a plague upon the 2010s. Absolute dogshit compromise material that, what felt like, every start up wargame and established company transitioning out of metal after the price surge of tin(still kicking myself for not buying rio tinto shares then) was gobbling down. It doesn't take glue well at all, it doesn't cut well, it's atrocious at holding detail. It was all the worst qualities of resin, plastic for board games pieces and metal casting wrapped up in one shitty low detailed package. And now the industry is repeating the same folly with fucking siocast.
>>97806277Yeah, Ignition Core bought rights to it a year ago and been slowly rolling it out. There were a few forum threads and youtubes videos initially, but not much else. Unfortunately the entirety of it's advertisement and visibility is on facebook of all places, but it seems to be alive enough amongst the people there. As far as product, they took everything off due to being busy with Adpeticon, but they should be refilling the store soon alongside re-introducing the Oni. Some of the models are just 1:1 brought back, just better material, while some been completely resculpted and/or resized for 2nd edition. But like I said, the prices are WAY high that it baffles me. The only current armies you can buy are: Shattered Sword, Speed Circruit, Black Diamond, and soon the Onis. After that all we'll have is Academy and Pirates (in that order) plus various Radiant+Void releases since they currently only have a small amount in a 2-player starter plus a fanart winner relic knight who was never physically released before.
>>97806318The nice thing, that said, all the rules are free on their website to download. Only missing a few character cards for the faction, which seem to only be obtainable by buying the respective model, but otherwise has everything else that isn't even being sold yet and was only made in 1st edition by Soda Pop/Ninja Divison.
>>97806318That girl is very sexy. I'd like to make some forces, I have the shattered sword starter in disgusting Restic>>97806317As this beautiful anon puts it. And fuck it is awful.But the designs and vibes just carry me through. In the year 2026 you'd think youd know how to market online but these companies suck at it
>>97806330Yeah, she's a great example of what Ignition Core and their hired freelance artists can do with the game now that they own the copyright. (She's the fan-art winner I mentioned, by the way.) I am planning to buy her next time stuff came back, prolly with some Speed Circuit.I'd buy more if they lowered the prices, but what can you do.
>>97805492>>97805525>>97805594>>97805601>>97805611>>97805756Should come with a good recipe for making crystal terrain with common household cleaners.
>>97806105nah, its like you saying >look how cooooooool this is! and me saying >nah mate, its shit and you saying >well what do you like that does what I want fag? and me chadfacing into >I don't care about what you want and you continuing to shill for a game you haven't posted your own models for yet.
>>97806174I'm doing a little khador v everblight display thing but I'd like to actually play it at some point later down the line
>>97806427>And me chadfacingJesus you are a disgrace lmao, and I actually did post a model, unlike you.Have some more!Just another Turnipfag who basedface over youtubers making interesting creations whilst you probably never kitbashed in your life. Your suggestions are terrible if you follow the line of conversation, which is beyond you I fear.No im not saying the games you've mentioned are bad either.
>>97806596Ah that sounds really cool, since the models for the old editions are cheap I've thought about doing some displays too. Do you have a wip pic or some design work?
>>97806427>>97806751You're both fucking losers.
>>97806916One is a loser that owns no models ;)
>>97806427You are a ripe fuckin idiot, post pics of the rocks with googly eyes glued to them that you use in HoTT so I can continue to laugh at you
>>97806751God, those look like shit, both paintjob and model
>>97807050look better than yours ;^)
2+ on 1d6 or 4+ pm 2d6.Which do we prefer/
>>97807050;))) and yet they bought anon joy, he assembled them, painted them, and played with them. He imagined how they interacted with their allies and foes, considered how they came to be and you?Heh well, you just have nothing don't you
Gather round ye grognards for a tale from my childhood of an improvised wargame:>1999>11 years old>Stuck at my grandparents farm for a couple weeks on a family trip>No video games, gameboy ran out of batteries days ago>Had just recently gotten into Warhammer, but my collection of shitty half painted space marines are sitting at home hundreds of miles away>All my brother and I had were a couple packs of plastic army men: green, tan and grey>No dice, no measuring tape>Get an idea>Large pile of gravel next to my grandparents house intended for a landscaping project>Pile is maybe 4' x 4' x 3' L W H, all smooth little round pebbles>Invent the Rock Pile Wargame>Two evenly sized armies, one side attacking the rock pile from below, one side defending from the summit>Some bricks and pieces of wood for bunkers & terrain scattered across the rock pile>Alternating activations, infantry can move 1 shoe length per activation>Draw a line in the dirt around the rock pile, this is the firing line>When a model declares a shooting attack, the controlling player physically picks up a pebble and stands outside the line, then throws the pebble trying to hit and knock over a target within that model's line of sight>Grenades are 3 pebbles throw as a cluster, but can only be used on targets within one shoe length of the active model>Snipers allow you to step over the line making your throw easier, but snipers can't move and shoot in the same turn>Machineguns are 5 pebbles throw one after the other, they can't move and shoot in the same turn and you have to step further back from the line because of their heavy recoil>Bazookas are just like grenades, but can target anything within line of sight of the model>We basically play this every day for the rest of the trip, inventing new rules for the various types of army men we had (mortars, landmines & minesweepers, flamethrowers).Thousands of men died fighting over that rock pile.
>>97806187CMON in general was infamous for cutting corners on minis. there's a small number of counterexamples, but not many.
>>97806415Who?
>Snouts speckled>Based tufted1
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>>97807246Very cute. I'm imagining a barn cat coming by and brushing up against the army men, knocking them over.
>>97807246I did this but in my family's overgrown ivy strewn garden. Vietnam was a hell of a war for a 12 year old boy.
>>97808047That boulder hat is cute.Cute!
>>97805880I haven't seen a single person under 40 talk about, paint, or play with Quar.
Anyone know where I can get PDFs for all the silver Bayonet supplements??
>>97808073Thanks.I'm inviting my buddy over to play a few rounds this month.>>97808080I'm only 34 >:(
>>97804276>Cool, any idea how big they actually are? Because I'm planning to use them in Void Admiral.>So I'll need at least 4 ship types in some what clear size difference.If you look, everything is on 1"/25mm hex slottas. You can use those for scale. The "Fleet Action" models are around 30-60mm. The ACTA Centauri ships are closer to 80-120mm, and the B5 Wars minis are nominally in the ACTA scale but their sizes range between the two. FWIW I have some Fleet Action Tigara cruisers and they're about twice the size of a Battlefleet Gothic Hellebore destroyer, around the same mass as a Sword or a Star Blazers heavy cruiser.>>97803418If you go on Mutantpedia they have all the Chronicles magazines in the archive, there are a bunch of scenarios you could adapt. The rules for fighting in buildings (check the Bunker, Bridge, or Cathedral sets) can also really spice up a game.>>97805408>Tell me what do you think makes for a good wargame? Mechanically speaking>VibeThe mechanics support a theme or "feeling" - historical, action movie, trashy pulp, whatever. There is no universally perfect set of mechanics.>Low "churn"Players must have meaningful choices. Pointless decisions or must-takes are boring, and abilities or rules that constantly take away player agency is bad design. Full stop.>ClutterAny extra clutter on the table *must* help convey game state, and be easily-manipulated by the players as they play. 4mm tokens are horseshit and anyone who advocates for them should be flogged. Same goes for games with three decks of load-bearing cards>>97806187>You don't know bad kits until you make a cool mini or not soda pop miniatureOh trust me, you can find out other ways.
>>97806115>set in a whimsical horse & musket setting with cute anthropomorphic creatures standing in Napoleonic lines of battleThe creator has something like that, but no rules or anything, just made some models to blow off Quar steam I guess.
>>97808609>Napoleonic MuppetsHoly kino
>>97808609>>97808667>The creator has something like that, but no rules or anything, just made some models to blow off Quar steam I guess.That setting's been a thing since the late 80s or early 90s, he has it up as a side thing on his site. It's in the minis docs in the OP somewhere
>>97808673never saw the rules or anything other than minis from it, but it's true I only found out about them because of their MMF page
>>97808080I'm 30, but this was the game that got me into the hobby around a year ago.
>>97808080I started collecting my Quar at 35, but I think you are probably right about it not being a game for people in their teens or 20s since they wouldn't have the cultural connection to the muppets that makes them so appealing.
>>97805492>>97805525>>97805601>>97805611>>97805756I asked for game mechanics reasons, anons.
Anyone know where I can get generic ghosts and skeletons with NO WEAPONS, just base skeletons?
>>97809502Warlord has skeletons with completely separate weapons. (And feet)If you're okay with very fiddly assembly.
>>97809502Northstar sell some metal skeletons for Silver Bayonet with no equipment
>>97809147Beautiful little table
>>97809147Awesome!
If warmachine is so good, why doesn't it have any following, let alone a /tg/ general anymore?
>>97810874It's never been that popular in /tg/, the general usually gets shitposted yo death by 40kids.
>>97810874The miniatures look like fucking ass.
>>97810874Anyone on /Awg should know that the measure of a game is how many people play it locally to you not on 4chan. It doesn’t matter how much people talk about something like Quar here because nobody near me will play it. Warmachine I’ll talk about here because there’s scene is great
>>9780540840k is terrible but besides that the player base is cancer and you should avoid them at all costs. This is anecdotal but I've never met a 40k player that wasn't >unwashed>agressively autistic >obnoxiously political >some kind of incel, chud, or tranny
>>9781159040k is the greatest game ever then.
>>97811758Unfortunately by the fact you can actually get it a game of it, it is. Bushido is my favourite DESIGNED game ever, but could I ever get consistent games of it? Fuck no so it’s pointless
>>97810151Thanks>>97810693I used to be interested in getting into 40k, but for some reason I never took the plunge even when I got my own income. Instead I ended up here years later somehow
I can't wait for these to arrive. Will probably have to replace the heads though, given they're not cute enough.
>>97811744You sound fucking insufferable
>>97810874>let alone a /tg/ generalBecause /tg/ is a deeply unwell board. Generals about even slightly obscure shit devolve into one autist repeatedly bumping them from page 9, usually with increasingly worthless nothing posts because they also don't have anything to talk about but are unwilling to let the thread die.Also a general is not a barometer of overall success, Savage Worlds continues to do well but generals never recovered from the shitposting eight-odd years ago.
>>97811932He's not wrong though, their stench reminds me of Magic players.
>>97811936NTA but just to add to this remember that A song of ice and fire had a general for years that finally got shut down for anons devolving into fan theories about books. The miniatures game got barely any discussion despite repeated attempts by a few anons. A general means fuck all
>>97811952The wargamers I know, which includes 40k players are all well groomed
>>97811833>actually get a game>everyone is playing 10th which is not 40k Is such an odd thing to see current 40k, it's like seeing someone wearing your friend's skin and everyone else acting like it's the same person.
>>97811932If that offends you, you probably should take a bath.
>>97811923It's actually hilarious that these were made by Tony Reidy, who suffers from permanent TDS. Figures he would make some silly girl boss shit
>>97811833Leave and go play 40k then. Let us talk about our bad games.
>>97812192>>97811989
>>97812201>older models had ugly features due to the limitations of the technology>newer models have ugly features due to the limitations of the designers We live in cursed times.
>>97812060Realistically, in big-ish cities, you will have an easier time to find games of 3rd, 4th or 5th edition 40k than someone playing quar or other /awg/ favourites. If playing often is something you value, then 40k has to be considered "good", despite all it's flaws, even in it's earlier "good" editions. Even back then there have been mechanically more refined games. But good luck finding anyone willing to play for example AT-43 in 2026.. (hardmode: who also has an army for it)
>>97812443Okay. You clearly don't want to discuss /awg/ go back the your containment thread and stop shiting this one up.
>>97812443Playing awg games and even correct 40k is hard.Because even with a group that plays either of those, the gravitational pull that 40k FOMO has is impressive. Guys might bitch and moan for months about 10th, finally play something else like Xenos rampant or old 40k 4th editions, but as soon a new update of 10th drops the fuckers run back to it and the bitching starts again.I'm getting old and tired of fishing the retards back, I want to play but my options are limited even in a big city. The horrors of the third world
>>97812480If you have nothing to add to the point that it's fucking hard to find certain good games, and that this is clearly a quality of sorts on its own, then maybe you should not get involved in the discussion yourself. Because guess what: playing games is fun. Sitting at home, thinking about how great playing a game would be is less fun
>>97812490Same here anon, I’ve loved so many AWG through the years but it’s so hard to keep players attention on something that doesn’t constantly have new content nowadays. I’ve been through >ASOIAF miniatures game>Bushido>Bolt action>sharp practice In just the last two, now trench crusade is the new shiny thing. Anything that isn’t a small scale AWG that is cheap or I can print I don’t even bother with at this point. I have so many nice rulebooks with amazing rules that nobody wants to play because warhammer exists
>>97812371"I am a free man and a citizen of a sovereign country".-Dumnorix
>>97812546There are multiple threads to discuss 40k. Go there and discuss the ease of playing 40k instead of shitting this thread uo with 40k discussions. Faggot.
>>97812603We are discussing/awg/ here, idiot. Just because 40k is mentioned, a discussion is not about it. How can you be triggered so hard by just mentioning it? Do you not have anything besides your meltdown to add?
>>97812596freedom is a weird excuse, for stuffing a towel up your assbut OK, I guess
>>97812676>we are discussing /awg/>discusses the ease of playing 40k instead Lol. K.
>>97812755We’re lamenting the struggle of actually playing AWG? Neither of us has had we hate AWG or don’t play them
>>97812711Freedom ain't free.
>The lead designer of Wasteland Warfare 2.0 is a tranny whale called Evie.Fucking kill me.
>>97813755>kill meWhy, what's your problem?
>>97813323holy moly
>>97813787it's too late, anonyou have the gay, nowmaybe even AIDS
>>97813959>>97813967We're only here to suffer
>>97814369so you're saying rabbid faggotry is here to stay, then
>>97810874Long ago, in a distant land, it had a general that was well populated and seemed overall pleasant if a bit focused on BALLS OF STEEL. Privater Press shot themselves in the dick so badly it just stopped. Hasn't really ever recovered.
>>97810874Many things that are good don't have followings and many things that are bad have big ones. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out judgment.>>97814433high tourney content doesn't help.Warmahordes was like 90% tournies per squad inch thanks to the pressganger incentives
>>97764288I'm interested too. Seems neat, was reading the website and like the lore. Old 'dominion' seems like Ermor transported.
>>97765271>>97765275I'd love to love turnip, but the goody little guys end up being a turn off after a while.
>>97764288The new version of First Blood is significantly better than the previous versions. Perhaps the lower model count and new ruleset will give it more love in the current economic situation, although historically the rank and flank version has been significantly more popular. Still, they were promoting this version at Adepticon, so maybe it's finally hitting stride.My only concern is that since non-character/officer models are only sold as 12 infantry or 3 cavalry/brutes to a box, it's cheaper to start out with than the rank and flank version, but expanding outside of the starters might add up quickly if you want a lot of variety in your faction roster.
I have a question. what makes an attack or combat system "good" or "satifactory"how do you negate it being frustrating or not interesting?how important are the rolls or just declaring the attack?
To that one anon that was asking for awg to sell him on Epic Warpath, I was just at Adepticon, and I was sold on it. The game has an alternating activations system but you have to lay out your plans beforehand. It also has a command point system but instead they revolve around your turn, as you roll for how many you get per turn, not to mention the “strategic orders” (stratagem equivalent) in my experience mostly boost what your army can do, as compared to preventing your opponent from doing something. Understand the setting is way less grimdark than 40k, as it’s way more corporate sci-fi than gothic, personally I like it, but your taste may vary.
>>97815598>The game has an alternating activations system but you have to lay out your plans beforehandFinally someone takes that from Wargods.
Out of curiosity, does Frostgrave have any actual lore, do the supplements actually tell a story? Or does it just drop you in an identifiably D&D/Warhammer style fantasy setting with generic enemies that don't need any storytelling?
>>97815598Wow this looks sick, I love 6mm scifi combined arms. I've been looking for a game to get into in this scale Also wtf is this captcha
>>97816125It doesn't, really. Does have a small story anthology book. Same for Ghost Archipelago.
>>97816251that's the award-winning australian artist joji
>>97816251Chuck Tingle
>>97816125It's got place names and species, and some vague origins for the places and people, and a few hints about the outside world, and some broad implicit observations from the official model kits, leaving a lot of blank space for you to fill in as you please.
>>97816426
>>97815340>good Suits the scale and scope of the game in a functional and evocative manner. Duelling swordplay mechanics like En Garde! are going to be notably different than company scale movement and mass fire like in Epic Armageddon. >Satisfactory, not frustrating Choices made by players have meaningful and direct impact with some elements of chance that are interesting and representative but not overwhelmingly random. Also don't take too long or involve too much fucking about. Not sure I understand the last question. Its viable to have no roll combat but most people won't like it if that's what you're getting at.
>>97816426Honestly I thought about buying the RPG books just for the sheer lutz and derp.
>>97816656>just for the sheer lutz and derp.instructions unclear, installed grindr and getting ready for my first hookup later tonight
>>97816750>Pounded in the butt by my love of alternative wargames
>>97816750You people will do anything before joining an lgs discord server, huh?
>>97813755Is the game better or worse because of it? Does the box come with some tranny virus included?
>>97817171Cottaging is less gay than discrod. Thems them rules.
>>97817171To be fair discord is grindr lite.
>>97806759Just a partially built conquest rn nothing else has made it in and I'm not doing any design of the board until it's all put together so I can get a better scale of everything
>>97789298>be game>be so good you have a dedicated community >your owner ceases supporting you>community takes your rules and keeps them going, providing support and updates completely off if their own back>community's makes new supplements>new fleets>new ships>some time later an anally aggravated zoomer shrilly claims this means your a bad game because "hurr durr no official support"
>>97817808Zoomer are so strange, they hate corpos, but demand corpo only updates and support.Hate new slop, but refuse to engage in anything that isn't new.They are truly the most retarded generation and boomer exist. Both generation suck at technology and love sucking authoritarians cocks as long is their flavor of cock.
>>97813771>>97817186I don't want my dollars to be spent on genital mutilation.
>>97817873I got bad news for you anon. If your country is in the UN, your tax money will end helping some form of genital mutilation.
>>97764225>TQXwing If only they had started with the 2nd ed. model but without the Sephardic card thing and it wasn't given to fucks who tanked it on purpose
