Why the fuck would I want to play any other fantasy RPG?
>>97765969Gonzo from the get-go.
>>97765969What's so special about it?
>>97766020NTA but it's fun. It's ostensibly D&D basic but with more modern D&D stuff stuck on (AC goes up, Fort/Will/Reflex saves etc). The magic system is chaotic and can be a turn off, and it features lots of charts to roll on for magical effects and crits and whatnot.It's fun to play, the starting funnel is a cool idea, but I can think of a couple reasons why the fuck I'd play another fantasy RPG.
DCC is what if instead of going the route of 3.5 they jumped into a hippie VW. It has fun modules and mechanics, it still reads like 3e so I kinda hate running it but it's fun to play.
>>97765969good clean fun, haven't found anything better for a light beer-and-pretzels game where death is certain but the ride is totally worth itthe funnel is kind of overhyped though, I mean it's ok the first time but afterwards you just want to get to playing real adventures not some peasant meat grinder where everybody is in a race to the bottom to see who's meaningless death will be the most entertaining
>>97765969dogshit game with no (ZERO) actual dungeon crawling procedure.Buoyed only by le randumb tables and awkward meme dice.DCC is a game for incapable, ignoraant buffoons
>>97766050>It's ostensibly D&D basicnot even fucking close, bozo. Where did you hear this blatant bullshit from?
>>97765969>Why the fuck would I want to play any other fantasy RPG?If I don't want an app to be necessary to play the game. Fuck off with that shit.
>>97766394Playing it. Maybe you should too, it doesn't read as old school as it is at the table.
>>97766641>I put bell bottoms in it so its OLD SCHOOL Marketing to idiots works disparagingly well.
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>>97766301what a faggy take
>>97766671Show where it is 'apparent or purported' to be "Basic D&D">>>97766848not an argument, shill
>>97765969Read it, haven't played it, but it seems like it would have quite a narrow sweet spot—from 2nd level to about 4th or 5th—since the crit and magic systems both seem like they would inevitably turn high-level play into a particularly unforgiving form of rocket tag.(For instance, if he wins initative, a high-level warrior is quite likely to kill a dragon with a lucky crit, or disable it with a high roll on his deed die—but if he doesn't, the dragon is almost certain to eviscerate him instead in one round's worth of attacks.)
>>97766857I don't need to argue about you being a fag.
>>97766950>FAGYes!
>DUNGEON CRAWL classics>look inside>no rules for dungeon crawlingwaow cringe
>>97766062You have a lot more fun running it if you lean into the gonzo, and not worry too much about precise rolls and saves.This may ruin my credibility, but it's a lot of fun with some autistic prep and a cavalier judge
>>97767189Your rules for dungeon crawling are in the class abilities
>>97767224>Your rules for dungeon crawling are in the class abilitiesLOLDCC has no 'dungeon crawling rules', deal with it
>>97766658>I am a faggot with strong opinions about things I don't know.We can tell.
>>97766641provide system correlations to Basic
>>97765969Oops, OP here. I posted the wrong image. DCC sucks and is fake OSR.
>>97767339What, you can't design dungeons with respect to class abilities? You need your hand held so Mercer can tell you how to DM?
>>97767529>you can't design dungeons with respect to class abilities?no one said this.where are the DUNGEON CRAWL rules in DCC?
>>97767399ACKS is just bootleg BECMI, anon.
>>97767637not even close, tardu-kun
>>97766618The hell do you mean "an app to be necessary to play the game"? They sell the dice if you dont feel like using a vtt (or you can handwave most of them away desu aside from maybe d16, d24, and d30)
>>97767880They're all replicable with the standard set. For d16 and a d24, you roll a either 8 or a 12 with a d4. If the d4 is odd you take the number, if the d4 is even you double it. Same with a d30, just a d10 and a d6, and this time a 1-2 is the number, 3-4 is double and 5-6 is triple.
>>97768148>just a d10 and a d6, and this time a 1-2 is the number, 3-4 is double and 5-6 is tripleThat's retardedYou have no way to roll higher primes like 23 and 29 and multiple ways to roll lower numbers like 3, 4, 6
>>97768267Sorry, I'm tired as fuck and fucked that up. So, a d16 is a d8+d6, if the d6 is odd it's 1-8, even 9-16. D24, same thing, even odd is 1-12, even is 13-24. D30, d10, if the d6 is 1 or 2 it's 1-10, 3 or 4 is 11-20, 5 or 6 its 21-30.
>>97768312Ok that makes more sense
>>97765969at first i thought i was going to like it, but it's just too arcadey. my group moved to a homebrew system where we physically weigh our own real life backpacks before the gm lets us roll for travel fatigue, and we bury the players in the backyard to accurately simulate a cave-in.
>>97766050>It's ostensibly D&D basicWrong
>>97767637>ACKS is just bootleg BECMIWrong
>>97767224>Your rules for dungeon crawling are in the class abilitiesWrong
>>97768384>arcadeyJesus fucking Christ this thread is a retard fest
>>97768470
>>97768550No shit it's a word, you fucking mongoloid. You're retarded for using it in the context of traditional games, let alone RPGs.
>>97768618you do realize original Gygaxian dungeon crawls were literally arcade games, right?>xp for gold is a literal high score system>dungeons with levels of increasing difficulty>you die instantly to a trap, you roll up a new guy (the ttrpg equivalent of inserting another quarter)read a book.
>>97765969Maybe someday you'll grow out of your insecure tryhard phase.
>>97768657>literally arcade gamesCan you show me the cabinets he had produced?
>>97768657Thereby confirming that you are, indeed, a mongoloid retard.
>>97769179oh he did, the cabinet is the table, and the cpu is the DM's brainGygax was the first indie dev to realize he didn't need to pay for a factory, just convince nerds to provide their own processing power for his quarter-munching loot loop. it's a gacha game with more math and less waifus, read a book on ludonarrative design before you come at me again.
>>97767399>DCC sucks and is fake OSR.It's not fake OSR, it just isn't OSR, as the creator of DCC himself says. It would be fake OSR if the creator claimed that it's OSR.>>97767529>design dungeons with respect to class abilitiesThat idea is the most cringe WotCtard bullshit that I've heard in the last week.>>97767629>where are the DUNGEON CRAWL rules in DCC?Good luck explaining this to a WotCtard like the Anon you replied to.
>>97768312>>97767880The spell app you idiots.
>>97768384>Not becoming a practicing magi and summoning lobsters your players have to fight irl Weak.
>>97769523Its creator isn't the one who decides if its OSR, just like your dad didn't decide you were a faggot.
>>97769342>the cabinet is the table, and the cpu is the DM's brainSo it isn't literally an arcade game.Thank you.
>>97767637ACKS is a B/X heartbreaker bloated to 1500 pages and played exclusively by little-dicked manchildren.
>>97769601A literal subhuman retard who is too stupid to even create a character sheet certainly doesn't decide anything either.
>>97765969Dungeon Crawl Classics is D&D for racists or 30 year old and older disgusting morons
>>97769585So you need an app because it's too hard for you to reference a book? Sounds like a you problem.
>>97770084True OSR then.
>a DCC level 0 funnel consisting entirely of Anglo-Saxon turnip farmers>Cletus accidentally rolls a halfling>immediate deafening silence at the table>Grand Dragon pauses the session to bring out the calipers>we spend 15 minutes measuring the plastic miniature's skull to determine if halflings are Aryanjust dudes being dudes
>>97770145There is a site that you can use to print out spell pages with mercurial magic bonuses listed. I don't know anything about an app but I do find it useful, especially if I'm running a one-shot and want to give magic users and clerics a tight spell sheet to work off of instead of expecting them to hunt through the book. DCC spells all have a big chart, and depending on the mercurial magic result you may have additional complications. You could certainly look that up every time you want to reference your spells but printing them is easier.I guess an app that does the same works too, I just don't care for tablets/laptops/phones out at the table.
>>97765969Designed by somebody looked at the standard set of D&D meme dice and decided they needed even more useless meme dice.
>>97765969Why would I play D and Dogshit but two boxes on the character sheet are changed instead ofD6 system fantasySword of CephiusWarhammer fantasy RPGorBarbarians of Lemuria?Even still If I feel like playing Dumplings and Dogfuckers why this instead of ACKS, Worlds without numbers, Lamentations of the Flame Princes, or Old School essentials?
>>97770084>Dungeon Crawl Classics is D&D for racistsAnon, I've already told you I like DCC, no need to insist.
>>97770235Why are you so generally off-putting?There's specific things to point at, but in general you've really just amassed "I am human trash" as a persona.This is not an invitation to try and talk to me by the way.
>>97770084Not even close, retard. Again, where do you get this type of misinformation?
>>97767213I really like the gonzo contnt, some of it goes full retarded and I'm all for it. But the 3e mechanics feel a bit too crunchy for me because I never ran that edition so I have to stop and think instead of vibing. It also kept the 3e style of hallway dungeons that I hate, you have to go through all the content in order.I like reading the synopsis and taking elements, but I didn't enjoy trying to run it straight. XCC is awesome.
>>97770374What? Literally the only 3e mechanics it has are ascending AC and F/R/W saves.There are no skills (sans the Thief's). No combat crunch (Mighty Deed Dice does it all in one roll).The only real "crunch" the game has is consulting Spell Tables.
>>97768657>>97769342No, arcades are inspired by D&D.You have your timeline wrong. It's not the end of the world, a bit retarded considering you could had chekced, but you're missing out on the evident feedback and evolution which can be kinda interesting if you actually care about this.
>>97770235Only you know why you keep coming to /tg/ even when you are far too retarded to play any tabletop game.
>>97770235oh, you're the acks guyDCC is 3e with more random tables at every stage and less class options. If you think it's the same thing as acks, a system that seems intended on clearly definig a ton of shit, you lack the pattern recognition needed to know which one is your car and shouldn't be allowed on the streets.
>>97769523As someone who likes dcc but isnt really a dungeon crawl fan or an osr tard, i always get confused when people say "it doesnt have rules for dungeon crawling". What exactly are people looking for mechanically with regards to running a dungeon, that isnt just something the gm can handle ad hoc?>>97769585What spell app are you talking about? Spells take up a single page and if you dont feel like reading the book you can print up the page>>97769601But you people are also deciding it isnt OSR so why are you even arguing?>>97770402>There are no skillsIncorrect. Player occupation technically provides a skill. Also tangent but the skill rules feel a bit underdeveloped. D20 for a skill you have and d10 for one you dont is good and all, but with all those dice id think theyd have a thing of like "your occupation is woodcutter so if it ties to cutting trees or wood its d20, but if its something tied to axes without wood or wood without axes its a d16 or d14" as opposed to adding a +2 to a d10
>>97770235you're right, the holy trinity of WHFRP, CoC, and Cyberpunk covers 99% of what ttrpgs have to offer, and if you don't care about sci-fi or horror, Warhammer is all you'll ever needas for why i actually own a copy of DCC... i was weak, and it was the drugs. i was on a three day bender funding my habit via a discord findom racket, pretending to be a dominatrix who humiliated tabletop nerds, when i demanded physical tribute from a paypig named FunnelCuck69. instead of crypto, the freak sent me the DCC core rulebook with a note begging me to step on his funnel peasants. stick to Warhammer, anon, it's safer for your health.
>>97770549>But you people are also deciding it isnt OSR so why are you even arguing?The guy who thinks it isn't OSR is just a BrOSR faggot.
>>97766020It's among the healthiest Not-D&D ecosystems; the barrier to entry for publishing is really low, so there's lots of adventures and indie e-zines, Goodman Games is really supportive with community outreach stuff, and there's no obnoxious wokeness. It's a system meant to be played.The convention presence is really strong, Goodman always has a big booth and sells the core book for $10.They have a DisOrganized Play style where people play at a bar or somewhere semi-public and do weekly drop-in games that are one-shots. My group always has two tables running, sometimes three. Playerbase trends older and a-political. Obviously there's regulars, but there's always new people trying it out, some of them stick around and become regulars. Since characters are randomly-generated, people aren't so precious about them, death is a thing that happens, and no one goes on and on about backstories.
>>97770639Eh, it's NuSR. Or OSR, but with lolrandumd tables to keep things lively and chaotic.It's not how I would run an ongoing campaign with deep themes and shit, but it is undoubtedly the most consistent fun I've had playing RPGs in, well, ever, thanks to the Disorganized Play.
>>97765969For variety? That said, DCC RPG is one of the better systems out there, and I am looking forward to that Backerkit campaign they are launching for Castle Whiterock in 2 weeks
>>97770327>Why are you so generally off-putting?because its fun.>>97770514>acks guynope, dont even like ACKS all that much, prefer Worlds without number. >DCC is 3e with more random tables at every stage and less class options.fair enough.(I just wanted an excuse to type dumplings and dogfuckers btf, that made me giggle to myself)
It just turns into "Time to check a table!" and ZOMG EPIC NATTY TWENTY (check a table!): The Game
>>97770549Don't be pedantic. I was talking about a long-winded skill list like 3e and on has.
>>97770747Calling it NuSR is weird because the system came out in 2012 while they were releading DCC adventures all the way back to 2003.Either way, "NuSR" are still OSR.
>>97770639Joseph Goodman is in the BrOSR? That doesn't seem very plausible, but I'm happy to be proven wrong if you have a link or something.
>>97770854DCC is neither, though.
>>97770549>What exactly are people looking for mechanically with regards to running a dungeon, that isnt just something the gm can handle ad hoc?"Rules for dungeon crawling" is a bad way to explain it, but the game doesn't offer any procedures for exploration (torches, rations, dungeon turns, wandering monsters, all that shit), so the dungeons in published modules end up being kind of theme park attractions that are less about exploration and more about fights and wacky shit. It sort of shows the more direct connection to 3rd edition as opposed to """""""actual osr.""""""I think part of that is it's attempting to "feel like" old school d&d as opposed to be any kind of accurate emulation of the play style. It's also the it came out of a series of 3rd and 4th edition modules (the original dungeon crawl classics line). And it's partially because those theme park dungeons are quick fun for a beer and pretzels games, which DCC specially is. Also, dungeon procedure is something that can be pretty easily layered on top of a system, and there are several fan made dungeon crawling bolt ons if you want a more accurate old school experience.>But it says dungeon crawling in the title!!!You gotta realize that you'd need to be pretty inside baseball to give a fuck about this shit.
>>97770549>What exactly are people looking for mechanically with regards to running a dungeon, that isnt just something the gm can handle ad hoc?Weird objection. The GM can handle anything "ad hoc". Some friends of mine literally play a ruleless RPG: Players create their characters by writing down some adjectives describing their character on their "character sheet", and the GM adjudicates everything by asking the players to roll a die, high = good, low = bad. The fact that the GM can make something up when there isn't a rule in the rulebook doesn't mean that the rule exists in the rulebook.
>>97770953i've been looking for dungeon crawling procedures (writing a computer roguelike, wanted something to rip off from), and all the original and retroclones are lacking in that regard. the only games that really do that are solo games like four against darkness, d100 dungeon, 2d6 dungeon, and the osr solo toolkit. saying that some clones do really have them is really dishonest.and if i had to point at a system that says how to _run_ dungeons the best, it would be Mothership.
>>97770935Joe isn't sure what it is, and doesn't care.And go back to your containment thread. Why is it when people try to avoid you, you chase after them?
>>97770953>You gotta realize that you'd need to be pretty inside baseball to give a fuck about this shit.Baseball, huh? That tracks
>>97771023You gotta realize that, for the majority of people who play ttrpg, "dungeons" are a series of more or less firewalled rooms where fights happen.
>>97771070I have no idea what you're talking about. Take a breath Anon, you're not making any sense.
>>97771023You're simply wrong. The AD&D DMG has full procedures, including a random dungeon generator, random encounter tables, treasure tables, rules for how long each action takes, probabilities for each action, how long torches and lanterns last, what it takes to open a door or listen to it, frequency of wandering monsters, and so on.B/X has all of that except it doesn't have a random dungeon generator, but you could use geomorphs for that.
>>97770549Pretty much what I was gonna say: >>97770953Dungeon procedures are stuff like resource management, defined times for standard things like looking for hidden things, mechanics to define random events. It's not crazy stuff, but if you never had them you'll instantly notice how they change the gameplay, and there are different mechanics that push play in different directions. You can just add them to anything, but in general they work best when they are cooked together with the setting. There's little point in exploring a 3e hallway dungeon, Mothership has some issues with third party creators taking for granted their home rules for stuff like radiation or stress management. But it's not the part that defines a binary between game good and game bad. It's just a things that tends to be ignored by big systems that could have it so people are sensitive about it.
>>97771137Continuing the list: Surprise probabilities, encounter distances, rules for evasion and pursuit. In fact, AD&D and B/X have more complete rules than some of the games you mention, like 4AD and d100 Dungeon, because they have many more options for what the PCs can do.
>>97771148>You can just add them to anything, but in general they work best when they are cooked together with the setting.More than the setting, they have to be cooked together with the character abilities and spell list. It's easy to break the procedures by giving PCs the "wrong" abilities and spells, and, conversely, if you remove the procedures some spells can become puzzling and their usefulness obscure.
>>97771137good for you, anon, but that half-page or single-page dungeon generator is hardly enough to make it the basis for a computer algorithm that could run it. never mind that it looks wonky, arbitrary, and not balanced or playtested. it's basically something you could come up with yourself between taking a piss and a shit. i really shouldn't be so negative, if it works for you then great.
>>97771173yeah, totally, if you're thinking about the 5e spells that are there just to kill the fun of a dungeon.Just having the procedures in a hallway is meaningless, you have to make the players need them and get advantages from playing it right. It sounded overwhelming to me when I could only play 5e, but as I started running things it clicked together that it was a different experience from the ground up.
>>97770953That's because the tabletop experiences that Joe Goodman are nostalgically recalling in the creation of DCC, that being running AD&D with his school buddies, in all likelihood did not actually include all the procedure stuff. The majority of people running D&D back in the day didn't actually use that shit, and frequently discarded the resource management parts of the game in favor of something more immediately gratifying.This isn't to say those parts of AD&D aren't important or that they're bad, far from it. I also emphasize that stuff when I'm running retroclones, I think they make the game far more meaningful. However, the way that DCC plays is much closer to how most people were actually playing AD&D back in the 80's than the way contemporary AD&D 1e "purists" are running the game today.
>>97771175>but that half-page or single-page dungeon generatorYou picked just that ONE THING out of a list of tens of procedures? If it's your only issue, again, use geomorphs.>it looks wonky, arbitrary, and not balanced or playtestedWrong. I and many other people have been using it for decades, and it works very well.>>97771228I had the opposite experience: I always only played old D&D since I was a kid (AD&D 1e, B/X, and BECMI), and once a friend of mine invited me to a 5e game that was a dungeon crawl. I read the PHB, created a PC, and went to the session naively expecting modern editions of D&D to work like the old ones.I was completely confused the whole session by the fact that the DM was not describing the map, not rolling for wandering monsters, and so on. It was more like some kind of freeform improv theater session than the game I always knew. The DM was equally confused by the way I tried to move through the dungeon, the questions I asked, and so on.Never played any "new" edition again after than.
>>97771245Pretty much.>However, the way that DCC plays is much closer to how most people were actually playing AD&D I don't think I agree that "most" people played that way in the late seventies and early eighties, but certainly *many* did.
>https://gofile.io/d/xUgf86Fortunately there are a million 3rd party supplements and people have covered the missing DCC dungeon crawl rules.
thanking God every day that growing up in the Glorious Republic of Mudzbekistan meant the only tabletop game available to us was WFRPG 1st ed, letting us completely dodge the entire D&D capeshit timeline. i don't even know how to chime in on the endless dogfights over editions and retroclones, because as a bystander, every single one of them looks like absolute dogshit.
>>97765969>Why do you play a dnd clone when you can play this dnd clone?
>>97770639Hi fishfag! Still a nogames?
>>97771280I think there is a charm to action hallways, I really want to like DCC, it's just a very different game. Not only the actions you take but also how you spend your time, for example when you aim to have a session that is 80% combat properly studying or describing the dungeon is bad GMing. I think I defend DCC more than 5e in this regard because it's not called D&D, it's not pretending to be the same "type" of game, so I can appreciate it as a different thing.
>>97771379I think the thing that people miss is that DCC is still very much a resource management game, but it's managing your thief and Halflings luck and your wizards stats for spell burn. I do like that all the classes really feel fundamentally different, and I like how they do semi humans. I don't love race as class, but I feel like this is the least bad version of it.
>>97770235>or Old School essentialsThat one is quite literally dungeons & dragons so I think you might just be retarded
>>97771379>I think I defend DCC more than 5e in this regard because it's not called D&D, it's not pretending to be the same "type" of game, so I can appreciate it as a different thing.Totally fair.
>>97770579Fair enough, things like that happen.
>>97769669totally what a normal person would say
>>97771849justt kidding, i don't do drugs, actually bought the book myself, have a steady job so i can sustain myself. as for the findom money, i send all of it to charities and animal shelters.
>>97772143>radiates little dick energy for thousands of milesThere's pills to help you with that.Cyanide might be your only hope.
>>97772373Get help, fishfag. Or don't, we love to see you throw your little sperg tantrums.
ACKS is the culmination of over 2 decades of research into Gygaxian OSR. It is THE quintessential OSR game. There is quite literally no reason to play DCC or any of these other retroclones when ACKS exists
>>97772934>not even the ACKShill likes ACKS and he's just trying to troll the voice in his headUnsurprising, actually.
>>97772981There is a reason, the only one that matters: i enjoy playing DCC more
>>97765969>I LIKE THING>YOU SHOULD GIVE ME ATTENTION BECAUSE I LIKE A THING
>>97772373irrelevant bot reply
>>97773094nah I love acks>>97773325>a culmination of mostly other people's work but without them being accreditedso THIS is why fishfag hates ACKS!
>>97773345>so THIS is why fishfag hates ACKS!Nah, it's just another excuse he's got to cover for 'REEEEEE-'
>>97773345dunno who fishfag is I just opened the thread because I like DCC and wanted to see if the usual odd and ignorant takes on the ruleset were in here.If only I could force every single person who calls it a 3.0eD&D clone to actually open it up and read a single page. Like it or hate it idgaf about some online anon's opinion, but people whose confidant ignorance could be broken by reading-the-damn-rules don't belong in the hobby.
>>97773411>If only I could force every single person who calls it a 3.0eD&D clone to actually open it up and read a single page.>Like it or hate it idgaf about some online anon's opinion, but people whose confidant ignorance could be broken by reading-the-damn-rules don't belong in the hobby.Man, I get that feel my dude.We've got people that claim ACKS is a 3.5 rip-off, based on their own brainworms and nothing more.Fishfag is one such underhuman who has a seethe on about ACKS and shows up when it's mentioned to throw a wobbly, thus people heckling him.
>>97773411Never reply to a post that uses that word. It's a schizo fight with an anon fighting himself. If you see it once you'll see it a million times, it's always the exact same, there is no interaction you could have with him because it will be turned into his pre-made eternal combat. Just ignore it and move on.
>>97773411>If only I could force every single person who calls it a 3.0eD&D cloneI don't think anyone is calling it a 3e clone, but it's obvious that they started with 3e, stripped it down to the barest nub, and then built back on top of that. That isn't a qualitative statement. t. Someone who has read the rulebook and ran some DCC and mcc.
>>97773424>>97773490Ah I see. Thanks for the explanation.>>97773573Certainly not in this thread, but there are a select crowd online (less and less over the years) who very vehemently and confidently make this claim.
>>97773608>Certainly not in this thread, but there are a select crowd online (less and less over the years) who very vehemently and confidently make this claim.Ah, is that the "it's fake osr" crowd?I like that it's it's own thing. It isn't really modern d&d, although it makes some concessions to modernity, but it also isn't trying to be osr.
>>97773631Some of them are, but mostly it's the sort of spergs who Are-Very-Intellegent- About-TRPGs or get their opinions and "facts" from vaporous sources.The common traits between all of them is that none of them have opened the covers of the book let alone quickstart pdf.
>>97773608The people who say it's OSR only saw race as class and shut off their brain, the people who say it's just 3e saw the name of the reactions and similarly stopped thinking.I think it's closer to 3e in terms of official adventure design, but it's clearly its own thing and that's why there is so much material for it. It's very clear if you compare something that was released for DCC and another system before that, like X-Crawl.
How does /tg/ feel about the X-Crawl spinoff? Is it supposed to be a distant sequel where the pseudo-medieval world has advanced to a modern/near future time like Earthdawn and Shadowrun or a new continuity like Warhammer and 40k?
>>97773737no, it's a stand alone setting. It's set in the American Empire ruled by Reagan the First. There are racial relationships with the magical creatures like gnomes being so good at crafting that unions regulate how many can be hired at a time and elves hate it except for the rare one that super loves the Empire. It's fun, not the deepest world building.I think it has some really good ideas for a sports centered campaign, classes are much superior to the first OGL attempt, and it embraces DCC's tables and style in a personal way. But the official material is still standard hallway dungeons with tons of read aloud text, I believe the base book was though as a stand alone and the modules are just what the author likes running in his tables, I tried them a couple times and they had too much personality to make my own or easily replicate. I'll give it another shot whenever I make my own scenario.
>>97773411"Fishfag" is just what a particular retard calls everyone he disagrees with. It's just shitposting.
>>97772981>There is quite literally no reason to play DCC or any of these other retroclonesDCC is not a retroclone, though, it's its own gonzo thing. It scratches a different itch wrt ACKS.
>>97772159not fair enough
>>97773919>fishfag desperately attempting to convince everyone that he doesn't exist and that everybody who calls him out on his bullshit is the same personThe whole of /osrg/ has been calling (You) fishfag for years, fishfag. In order to make those claims, you'll have to prove that the whole of /osrg/ is just one person, and has been just one person for years. Good luck with that.
Remember, just ignore the poster who says fishfag. He'll happily spend a hundred posts or more treating every post he disagrees with as if it came from the phantom in his brain, and that includes posts that call him out as schizo who is trying to invent an arch-nemesis for himself.
>>97775713>fishfag desperately attempting to convince everyone that he doesn't exist and that everybody who calls him out on his bullshit is the same personThe whole of /osrg/ has been calling (You) fishfag for years, fishfag. In order to make those claims, you'll have to prove that the whole of /osrg/ is just one person, and has been just one person for years. Good luck with that.
>>97765969Go post about this in /osrg/That's where this game belongs doscussion wise.
>>97765969>it's a poopdickschizo thread
>>97777538The /osrg/ has gone to shit ever since it changed its OP a few months ago. It's the last place you'd want to go to discuss games of any kind these days.
>>97777557Oh i know. I don't post at all there anymore. I'm waiting till the anon who shat up the thread screaming "muh fishfag strawman" finally fucks off or gets clapped. Maybe he will have a meltdown about DCC in his dead thread and get banned finally, if another anon talks about it there.
>>97778110Reminder that i'm not your made up strawman, and never have been.> that its OP is fine, that is hasn't changed in the last ten yearsHere's you trying to astroturf a "consensus" in this thread, to change the OP to fit his personal beliefs.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96775865/#q96778252And multiple anons call you out on it.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96799302/Here's your first time hijacking the thread with your astoturfed "consensus" since october of last year, and you've and been pushing it since.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96255749/#q96255757https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96297535/#q96297539https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96393394/#q96394104https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96342662/#q96342668Here’s your “guides” getting deleted when it was pointed out that they’re not actually guides, just propaganda.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96120434/#96137075https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96120434/#96137087https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96393394/#q96406932Here’s a few of those posts where you were so frustrated by your troll posts getting deleted you started to claim your fishfag was a janny, including one where you posted a screenshot of your ban page so everyone could see that you were ban-evading.>Try to act like a normal person instead of as the subhuman gremlin troll that you are.And here's you spam/flooding a thread full of weird AI Gayified versions of 2e monsters and gay larp because anons attempted to return to the original, unhijacked OP.https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96881801/#q96887990Also here's you spamming 3rd edition content after trying to flimsily call it "OSR" to grt an excuse ti flood a thread, because it didn't stick to your astroturfrd, hijacked template.https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97463634/#q97468707Want more receipts? I got plenty.
>>97778160>> that its OP is fine, that is hasn't changed in the last ten yearsLMAO at the misquote by omission. My full quote was:>you got told by the mods explicitly that /osrg/ is legit, that its OP is fine, that is hasn't changed in the last ten years"Hasn't changed in ten years" referred to /osrg/, obviously. Of course the OP did receive minor updates to make its intent clearer because of your insistent trolling for years, fishfag.>I don't exist and everybody on /osrg/ is the same person.Not sure if that makes you insane (if you actually believe it), retarded (if you believe other Anons and mods will believe you when you say that), or both. I suspect both. As in your actual clinical autism means you are both retarded and have a defective theory of mind.>20 links of grievancesAll that shows is that everybody on /osrg/ hates you, wants you dead, and makes fun of you whenever you rear your instantly recognisable ugly subhuman head.>astroturf Stop using words, you don't understand, fishfag.
Rolled 9 (1d12)>>97778316>that is hasn't changed in the last ten years>did receive minor updatesPlease, lie to my and other anons faces more. Please keep accusing others of your own actions. If you want i can show you how even the pre hijacked OP wasn't always strictly used and nobody was held at gunpoint for not posting it.Did /osrg/ get too boring for you, so you needed to make this thread to start stuff, and accuse people of being your strawman? probably not but i wouldn't be surprised if so.Now let's roll to see what canned response you give!>1. Hurt bert>2. That other guy (the other guy in >>97769994 )>3. "The OP was the same since 2019" (ignoring that he changed it)>4. Muh first decade>5. Shadow over innsmouth reaction image>6. "Fuck you fishfag/eat shit, fishfag">7. Something about character sheets>8. Butthurt over 2e>9. Ted roosevelt laughing>10. Some random gif>11. Project your actions onto others>12. Rage tantrum
>>97778160>Fishfag unironically listing tens of links of Anons mocking him, humiliating him, and gang raping him as if that proved he's right.All that proves is that everybody hates you, fishfag.
>enter DCC thread>it's schizos throwing shit on one anotherGet a tripcode so I can filter you lot or go back to discord.
>>97778349The mods themselves told you /osrg/ has been the same for over ten years when you went to whine to them:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97628711/#q97639246Cope and seethe
>>97778365Actually he told that anon that is was the Mods/jannies problem if someone is trying to change the OP, not his problem.Also>or trying to "Gatekeep" that General OP to your personal viewsSounds a lot like what you did last year in october, to push your views on everyone>>97778361Fucking PLEASE rid me of this faggot and his personal hateboner. fucking ALL OF THIS SHIT is because he hates 2e and cannot stand people talking about it near him.
>>97778395>Fucking PLEASE rid me of this faggot and his personal hateboner. fucking ALL OF THIS SHIT is because he hates 2e and cannot stand people talking about it near him.Or you could just stop shitting your diaper any time ACKS is mentioned and no one would know who the fuck you even are.Imagine that, just not engaging and giving up all your atistic little tics, no one knowing who you are and you being able to pass for another anon.Wouldn't that be nice?Instead of being the angry little sped that you come across as any time you post.
>>97768657Does MAME have support for D&D yet?
>>97770726you baited me into checking it out after hearing about a cheap core rulebook since i am somewhat familiar with 3.5 but never got into gonzo stuff.So the book is 40 euros without the travel fees (it dont say how much) from goodman and i went and checked on ebay for some used copy and all i found are around 20 dollars at best with 40 dollars fees for them to get to me.Plus whatever customs fee i would have to pay.This just confirms to me that these game are for americans only. Who the fuck would spend so much on a single rpg book here?
OSR troons would really snort gay gaygax's dried and powdered shit if they could. what an unsavoury and retarded bunch. i don't understand why people get angry when i say that a game isn't OSR. i'm not gatekeeping when i say it, i'm saying it meets the minimum requirements to not be automatically shit.
>>97778678>OSR troons would really snort gay gaygax's dried and powdered shit if they could. what an unsavoury and retarded bunch.All true except for the troon part.>i don't understand why people get angry when i say that a game isn't OSR. i'm not gatekeeping when i say it, i'm saying it meets the minimum requirements to not be automatically shit.Because (1) They're tourists who think "OSR" means whatever plebbit and Ben Milton say OSR means. (2) And they're also retards who believe that saying that something is "OSR" means it's good or both, as opposed to its actual meaning of playing games faithful to Gygax' play style, which some people like me like and many others like you don't.(3) And they're the actual plebbit troons.(4) Last but not list, most of time here on /tg/ it's actually fishfag whinging and trolling.I personally respect you, though you may not respect grogs like me. I don't respect the tourist retard troons of OSR. And I respect fishfag even less.
>>97779041Holy Mother of Typos. I should go to sleep.t. Gygax shit snorter.
>>97779041Need i say anything in response? Go back to K&KA with the 1d6 greybeard isolationists.
>>97779041yeah don't worry. i've been overly harsh because reading osrfags (both real and fake ones) arguing sometimes gets me worked up. i used to be interested in the wider ""osr"" movement until i realized it was pretty much a worthless label unified only by something i didn't care about at all (vague inspiration to ye olde gygax rules, usually filtered through several layers of references and adaptations)
>>97778678>OSR troons would really snort gay gaygax's dried and powdered shit if they could. what an unsavoury and retarded bunch.You're thinking of the BrOSR, a group within the OSR who worship Gygax and have tried to co-opt the whole thing.The OSR actually started as a reaction to WotC showing no signs of ever reprinting any pre-2000 material (to encourage 3e adoption), and was always a fairly widespread and loose community, existing on several forums.A small group within the OSR tried to steer it towards being a strict following of 1e, because they lived with the early 1e mindset that the game was supposed to have a single uniform playstyle world-wide. This K&KA group created their own forum, which ultimately died, but their legacy persists with bad actors plaguing the OSR and trying to demand it follows a ONE TRVE WAY, with the ironic part being even the BrOSR can't all agree on what that one way should be.These guys are generally disliked or even hated on sites like Dragonsfoot, EnWorld, RPG.net, Reddit, and Twitter, but they have a foothold here because the OSR didn't get discussed much outside the /osrg/, and many people here even make the common mistake of seeing the BrOSR activities and thinking they actually represent the whole OSR community. A lot of OSR creators have actually started to distance themselves from OSR (calling their own games OSR-adjacent/OSR-like) so as to avoid being associated with a lot of the bad image the BrOSR have generated on sites like Twitter.OSR used to be about just appreciating Old School gaming, but the BrOSR have tried to push it towards being a right-wing "retvrn to tradition" option in the face of the left's tiger-grip on most other corporate and indie RPGs. And, like anything involving the current "culture war," it largelly just means turning everything to shit.
>>97779368Thank you for some common sense in this thread anon. the BroSR have been an utter plague on /osrg/ for a while now, and their attempted hostile takeover has been awful. I've decided the only thing i can do is just stop trying to put out the figurative fire and just let it burn fully, and burn away everything so we can rebuild from the ashes.
>>97778160I just want to confirm that everything this anon said is true.The /osrg/ went from having a troll claim that even the janitors were also his "fishfag" because they kept deleting his posts, to having that same troll hijack the OP while claiming it's been unchanged for a decade despite that being an objective lie.
>>97778395>Bad faith interpretation >'He'lol hi fish. I get you're scrambling for relevance but we have horse now.
>>97779444I'm not so sure about that strategy. The thing about humans (and trolls) is that they tend to often break the ordinary rules of ecology. If a group stays in a location, for reasons beyond their immediate welfare such as religion/ancestral rights/exile/etc., instead of their population being limited by their environment, it is the quality of that existence that will decline. People are willing to suffer through much.While the ordinary (ie., those following simple motivations) folk will leave, the trolls motivated by agenda will stay regardless of how bad things get.The worrisome part is that this might extend beyond the /osrg/, but to /tg/ and even 4chan as a whole.
>It's another "2eigger screams incoherently about the BrOSR and how if they're not stopped they're soon going to overrun the entire site because people told him to stop being a retard in their presence" threadMeds.Tablets or buckshot, whichever will get you to stop shitting up the board.
>>97779677I'm not saying the trolls in the /osrg/ will do something like, I don't know, start leaking out into threads such as a hypothetical DCC thread and turning it into a excuse to soapbox about their fictional bogeyman, I'm saying that /tg/ may reach a point where the only people here are people with motivations beyond just having discussions about traditional games and sharing pictures of them.
>>97779724Oh, you mean like you did/do/have done for the past 2 years whenever ACKS is mentioned?After all, wherever ACKS goes, FWB has to turn up right?Fuckheads without Borders
>>97773411DCC is a 3e game, simple as, dummy>>97773919hi, fishfag, did you go running to the mods again?
>>97778160>Fishfag samefagging furiouslyFishfag, you tried to get /2eg/ to become your personal army and troll /osrg/. As a result, you got told to fuck off by everyone there, you went nuts, started calling everybody there "trollcow", and got all your 60 posts in that thread IP-nuked by the mods:#p97535814Then you went to the IRC channel to whine to the mods that /osrg/ is not doing your bidding, and you got told by the mods explicitly that /osrg/ is legit, that its OP is fine, that is hasn't changed in the last ten years, and to stop being a cunt and leave /osrg/ alone:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97628711/#q97639246...and now you're trying to get DCC fans to become your personal army and troll /osrg/?Try to act like a normal person instead of as the subhuman gremlin troll that you are.
>>97778160wheres the screenshot of you crying to the mods on IRC and them telling you to fuck off?
>>97779741You're going to have to drop your bogegman business if you want anyone to take you seriously.I mostly fall into the camp of "people wildly confused by why the BrOSR made a special excemption for ACKS in their purist ideology."I don't understand why anyone would have strong feelings in either direction for the game, and your particularly strong feelings for it are incredibly bizarre.
>>97778395>personal hateboner2e and DCC are not OSR. Imagine taking this shit 'personally'just make a new thread niggayou DO play games, right?
>>97769595>>97770072[Deleted]when are you giving up, fishfag?
>>97771175>cant handle his own business>complains>others offer help>complainskill yourself, nogames
>>97778678>oh no a thread full of something I dont like, better let them know!kill yourself lmao>>97779041This.
>>97780114>wheres the screenshot of you crying to the mods on IRC and them telling you to fuck off?Fishfag getting told off by the mods on IRC was the most satisfying thing to happen in years.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97628711/#q97639246
>>97779220>>97779368>>97779444cute samefagging.>the KKK and BROSR are working together to...kick 2e out of /osrg/, AIIIIIE SAVE ME REDDITMANno one knows what schizo shit youre babbling about.
>>97778349It's kind of amusing that he's become so complacent with his trolling "routine". But, it's also kind of ominous that such a shitty troll feels comfortable trolling so poorly and openly.
>>97780251HOLY FUCK AHAHAHAHAso the mods know about him, makes sense because every post deleted itt (five) has been his.If he knows they don't tolerate him, why does he persist?No matter, this June marks my twentieth year here. I'll outlast him like I've outlasted all the others.>>97780280This would be believable if you werent directly told by the mods to fuck off (and your posts are deleted in almost every thread you post in as a result)
>>97780133>why the BrOSR made a special excemption for ACKS in their purist ideologyPurists? Exception? The BrOSR will play anything, even D&D 5e:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcwiwqo9faQS_jDi9CatRSGyNs0n9Ztq7Scutifer Mike is a BrOSR DM:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ1bOUl82ooThe BrOSR are not "purists" in any sense of the word, they're RPG whores (more power to them!)The only reason you keep bringing the BrOSR up is because you're actually clinically literally retarded and don't understand who they are and what they are about. Add it to the long list of words you use without understanding, like "fallacy"
>>97780302>If he knows they don't tolerate him, why does he persist?Actual literal clinical autistic fixation.
>>97780302That was someone else, and more importantly, that mod said "its typically a bad idea to change a general's text for no reason", which is exactly what you did.The mods allowing you to act as you do is not a sign of you being in the right, it's a sign of the mods being in the wrong, especially when there's unalterable proof that you were the one who changed the OP text, without even anything resembling a concensus. Your posts were the ones originally being deleted in the /osrg/, and when that did nothing to quiet your tantrums, the mods changed tactics and began to delete anyone who engaged with you.While that has left the /osrg/ quiet (and with a fraction of the posters it had even just six months ago), apparently that just means you will now go into other threads in order to get your fill of drama.
>Your thread is quiet! That badOh no, we managed to remove the obese clown having constant screaming tantrums all day every day from the corner of the library.However shall we cope without the deafening noise of the worlds loudest retard sharting a symphony of enraged word salad across every thread.It am a disaster.We hekkin never gonna recover now he's gone guyz ;_;
>>97780555>That was someone elseSure, fishfag.>that mod said "its typically a bad idea to change a general's text for no reason", which is exactly what you did.lmao you're trying again to claim that the mod was saying you're right even as he was telling you to shut the fuck up and stop being a troll.You're an actual fucking retard with an autistic fixation.
>>97780555>That wasn't me!>but heres my damage control for all of my shitposts being deleted on the spot after getting spanked by the mods!kill youurself, fishfag
>>97780668>fishfag after the mods spanked him
>>97780625>driving away most of the people who were part of the thread is actually a good thing!>making a sad echo chamber with lip-service bumps is the ideal for every general!The sad thing is that this could all have been avoided and quite easily, but instead your autism has been allowed to fester and is infecting beyond the /osrg/.
>No-no, it's not that the thread for your fairly niche interests has always been slow when I'm not there stirring shit>It's that there's loads of people who were totes interested in it but they all left when I did because I'm the most important person in the entire universeYou truly are so vain that you think this song is about you.
>>97780700If that's what you're hoping to convince everyone with, you're going to have to do a much better job learning how to make your bumping not feel so painfully forced.
>>97780690>>97780749Gatekeeping the community is good, yes. Don't like it? Make a new thread or go to a new site.
>>97780753>Make a new threadHe's tried that about 3 times by this point but none of them had enough interest to survive, lel.
>>97780760I'm well aware. It's why the mods told him to fuck off and:A, Start a new (not imitation) thread, or,B, Stop fucking posting
>>97780760Actually, I remember someone else making a rival /osrg/ with the original text, and when that more people were posting in that version, you began to flood the thread.As long as the mods allow you to break any rules you want while interfering with any attempts to restore the /osrg/ to its original text, there's really no point in saying "just make a different thread."There's really no way to avoid you on this board, which is why a good amount simply left.
>>97780824>based broSRetard finally killing tg
>>97780824>when that more people were posting in that version, you began to flood the thread>this land was a paradise until you barabrians invaded us!kek you dont even play games and you STILL have no character sheet.Remember how before fishfag posted his fake char sheet, he protested doing so for weeks because "it would lead to him being doxed"?
>>97780824>>97780872decisive brOSR victory.>>97780824>making a rival /osrg/ with the original textoh, like how the mods told you to stop doing?
>>97780896Once again, that wasn't me, and once again, that mod is either erroneously (or concerningly, deliberately) making the mistake of not recognizing that you were the one who changed the OP, something objectively provable.
>>97780944>that wasn't meYou can say that until Shaggy comes over to your house and clocks you in the gob for all it matters.You've had your marching orders from the Mods and those orders are "Fuck off retard."You want to go ahead and make for round two on thee mods, feel free to do so. And when they tell you personally to fuck off as well, then maybe you'll get the hint?More importantly no one believes you because of your autistic-formal way of explaining yourself. It's very distinctive.
>>97780944>Once again, that wasn't methen quit defending your BF's honor>that mod is WRONGkill yourself, fishfag
>>97780944>you were the one who changed the OP, something objectively provablelike making the OP say "pre-3rd edition"kek lying fucking retard
>>97780982You are the last person to talk about who people believe.The mods now allow you to troll and flood as much as you want, and from the perspective of people who can, with 100% certainty, know you are a liar and are deliberately trying to mislead people (like insisting I'm the one who talked to the mod when that's basically the last thing I would do), that basically gives no reason to have any faith or trust in them either.You're a demonstrable example of mismanagement, and as your audacity increases, it becomes harder to consider the mods as anything but complicit.There's still a tiny hope left, in that the mods might just be genuine idiots, but it's hard to even imagine anyone reading your posts and not immediately recognizing you as a cancerous lying troll, particularly when you put extra effort in parading around that you're unafraid of being seen that way.
>>97781207The mods personally told YOU to fuck off what YOU are doing and no amount of spin or mental gymnastics or text walls will change this, fishfag
>>97781207>the mods AND the users are against me, why am I, the paladin of OSR so persecuted?!dude, give it up already, fishfag
>>97781245>usersYou, despite your endless insistence otherwise, do not speak for anyone beyond yourself.And, once again despite your endless and baseless insistence, do not just have a solitary individual who finds giant flaws in your goals and methods.We even had people making threads specifically just to avoid you, and you did the obvious thing you would do and decided to go into them, leading people to leave them just as they did the /osrg/.You are poison. People don't want to be around you, so you have to scheme up ways to inflict your presence on people.
>>97781313mods and anons both agree:FUCK OFF, FISHFAG!
>>97781313>>97781404I wish you would both fuck off, if you aren't the same person shadowboxing to actively ruin any thread you're in. You are both equally awful human beings.
>>97780760>He's tried that about 3 timesMore like 30 >>97780668
>>97781425Im not the one that the mods directly told to fuck off.Im not the one who has had his posts deleted itt.
>>97780824>when that more people were posting in that versionRight, the posts in picrel: All one-liners devoid of any actual content and with the exact same spelling mistakes.It wasn't multiple people, fishfag. It was not even one person. It was just one subhuman samefagging, (You).
>>97781557i love how he got mad over my pickles lmao
>>97781565https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97031639/#q97042674https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97031639/#q97042817Fishfag makes better people of all of us. It spurs us to be better people. Or at least to be people and not subhumans.
>>97781511>The mods are okay with my relentless shit posting, therefore it's good that I am relentlessly shit posting!I'm not even sure if you're the proACKS faggot or the antiACKS faggot, but you're a faggot either way. Posting huge blocks of texts with "proof" of how you're "winning" this stupid poopshitbutt war is terrible, and whichever you are, you should feel bad about it.Honestly, I think the odds are good you're both the exact same idiot just trying to ruin the board, you make both sides of your argument seem equally deranged.
>>97782116>>97042903this one really confuses meHere, fishfag:>accuses his 'trollcow' of not liking ACKS (or else why is it crossed out in the thought bubble?)>mentions "brOSR beliefs"what are these?>wants to exclude retroclones and BECMInot even close, just exclude 2e>thinks that 1984 is part of the decade that 1974 startedcan he not count to ten?so confusing. he must have a mental disability
>>97782243>he must have a mental disabilityHe unequivocally does. That post was years into us trying to explain to him that a decade lasts ten years and not eleven. Dozens of times. He kept refusing to accept this fact. At one point an Anon even posted picrel. Did that stop fishfag? No, he kept insisting that a decade lasts eleven years.
>>97782349kek how could he argue against this image?the simple fact that he is convinced that a decade is 11 years, and that saying otherwise is "trolling" him, makes it apparent that he's factually retarded.
Can you people just leave? This has been off-topic for dozens of posts
>>97782390>how could he argue against this image?The way he always does, by ignoring the arguments and obsessively repeating the same stuff. It's not banter when we say he has literal clinical autism, many of us are convinced that he actually does.
>>97782402go contact the mods on IRC and ask them kek
>>97782402We'll stop when fishfag stops. We didn't start the trouble, we merely called him out on his bullshit.
>>97780181I get that you have brain damage but try to answer this. What does your butthurt about 2e being OSR have to do with ACKS (a game that should work find with 2e stuff) and a okay story about fishing? Where does 2e fit in here?
>>97782822>im gonna play dumb, teehee!kill yourself, fishfag.
>>97782827You are clearly not playing dumb.
>>97782845>fishfag is back to using "brain" insults and ESL "no u's">pretending to not understand meme arrowsimpressive, you off your meds, fishfag?
>>97782822>>97782845Just leave him alone. If you want to help him look stupid, just let him self-destruct.>>97781425>>97782402Sorry, man, but it's herding cats. And one of the cats is completely retarded.
>>97782888fuck off, fishfag
remember when fishfag tried faildoxing people from a discord server that he is part of?
>>97782867Sorry that you are retarded and fail at reading but I would really like an answer on 2e and ACKs thing.>>97782888It's something that been bugging me.
>>97783010Wow, you're back to the >"no u peepee poopoo u cant read u cant brain"shctick. great.>that been bugging meshoo-shoo, ESL subhuman nogames
>>97783023I would say you are back to being a retarded faggot but you are always being one if your posts are anything to go by,
>>97783062Riveting.
>>97783010>I would really like an answer on 2e and ACKs thing.I'll explain it.The schizo shitting up the thread essentially has a massive personal grudge against 2e because he doesn't consider it an OSR game (despite it clearly being one.)It's mainly due to his personal (Incorrect) definition that the OSR is ONLY the "first decade" (Which he counts 0-9 instead of 1-10 years which is weird) of D&D's existence, and that anything made after that point is by his definition not OSR. this definition, is retarded. It is retarded because it excludes a bunch of clearly OSR stuff, flies in the face of reality (The OSR has never been about excluding and cherrypicking stuff, it came about as a response to 3rd edition) & doesn't take into account that Ravenloft & pharaoh are part of that period. Does that make them OSR? or is he just cherrypicking to exclude stuff he doesn't like.The ACKS stuff is because He is obsessed with ACKS and tries to push it wherever he can. He also wrote a fake, 200 page campaign out of spite for...reasons that are not clear. Here's him having a meltdown when someone said the campaign was boring!
>>97783734nothing but schizo nonsense>someone faked a 200 page campaign report years ago for the game that I hate, theyre after me!!!!
>>97783756It's remarkably scummy, given AzteCKS DM was gracious enough to not even reference the fishing story when he posted it.Imagine someone who has their foot pressed firmly against your bollocks being kind enough to lift it off after you spent months chickenhawking their ankles, only to go right back to it the second you're let up.
>>97783756fishfag is truly the worst thing to happen to this board since irontard
>>97783734Silly fishfag, you already admitted that was actually you.And if it wasn't, feel free to provide any proof that makes pic related bullshit that doesn't also make your claim bullshit.
>>97783734>He also wrote a fake, 200 page campaign out of spite for...reasons that are not clear.It's probably not fake. It simply wasn't intended for a 4chan audience so much as it was something he was writing anwyway as part of the BrOSR process.BrOSR encourage each other to do write-ups of their campaigns. It helps them take a fairly tedious style of play and make it feel more "real" and "substantial" for themselves. These are generally written like a receipt of actions, and are exactly as painfully dull as you'd expect that to be. Adventures so forgettable they'd evaporate without strict chronicling. They even hold contests.https://bdubsanddragons.blogspot.com/2025/07/rise-of-total-nonstop-braunstein.html?m=1They're kind of pathetic. If that's sounding a bit mean-spirited, that's because these people insist they are the one's who know the "true" way the game was meant to be played.The guy posting his 200 page ACKS thing probably posted it here for the sake of saying "look, i play, and anyone who disagrees with me is a nogames." I don't think he intended it to be entertaining or for anyone to read it without some obligation to.
>>97783914bro play reports have been a thing since the whole history of D&D. why are you so obsessed with some """brosr""" shit that isnt even related to acks???
>>97783800I love how you've been so thoroughly shamed by your meltdown you've started to try and pretend someone else wrote it.It's probably the sole example of you displaying any form of shame whatsoever.
>>97783914the reason you get called nogames is because you dont play games lmao
>>97783922Because he's wrong and it's the only cope he has left to cling to.He spent years, two of them to be more specific, talking mad shit about how no one actually plays ACKS, how the fishing story was fake and gay, ect, ect.And then the other guy drops his report and he's left holding his micropenis while everyone else gets to have fun reading about a whacky bunch of fuckers running a pulpy, Thulsa Doom snake cult.If he admits it's real and not the worst thing ever written then he has to admit he was wrong.And Fishfag is far too addled by hubris to ever admit he was wrong.
>>97783934>Has no argumentCope because you have to.Seethe because it's your nature.Dilate because you no longer have a choice.
>>97783922I like play reports and replays, and game stories in general. Kind of why it's pretty sad to see people who treat games like they're a job treat their chronicling like it's homework.It's people who've removed any sense of soul or life in their games trying every trick they can to lie to themselves that there's a semblance of it left.BrOSR write-ups are like a piano student recording themself practicing scales. It's nice they're going through the motions, but it's not exactly stimulating listening, and actually kind of depressing when you find out they never learned how to play any songs, just hours of scales.
>>97784024>its sad to see passion and dedication to one's hobbynow, please explain how in the world brosr and acks are related in any way?
>Fun finder general assures locals that no fun is to be found here, insists people who disagree with him lack soulsWhat's wrong with you has to be spiritual, it can't just be medical.
>>97783970Whoa there, you're sounding primed and ready for another meltdown. Might want to relax before there's even more screenshots you'll be embarrassed by when you finally can see straight.
>>97784024>BrOSR write-ups are like a piano student recording themself practicing scalesseems like something innoucous that you can just ignore then, easy peezy
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>>97784188>1488so close
>>97784036It's sad to see robotic, soulless mimicry of passion called passion, yes.Also, don't ask me about the BrOSR/ACKS connection. It honestly doesn't make sense to me.But, there's self-described BrOSR like Jeffro and that BDubs guy who gush embarrassingly about ACKS, including quite the dick-riding review about how great it is and how it's almost the perfect game, only to explain his own game is superior and should be played instead.https://bdubsanddragons.blogspot.com/2024/12/why-acks-is-not-answer.html?m=1And that's just some self-decribed, ie. the most shameless, BrOSR. Plenty more who follow the BrOSR ideology but are scared of being labeled "guys trying to commandeer the OSR and turn it into some kind of gay cult" also have a weird boner for ACKS, which is ironic because they also worship Gygax and Gygax would have hated ACKS. It's exactly the kind of rules-heavy game Gygax ranted about hating during his time posting dragonsfoot, and almost exactly the opposite of his later games.Figuring out how to resolve the paradoxes of BrOSR promoting ACKS is for the BrOSR to figure out. The connection is there though and not hidden in the slightest.
>>97784204>Also, don't ask me about the BrOSR/ACKS connection. It honestly doesn't make sense to me.>goes on to ramble about it like a schizo anywayskill yourself, fishfag
>>97784044I mean, yeah. It's pretty easy to ignore. Though, if a student was passing around his CDs, and then began screaming at anyone who called his five hours of playing the scales unexciting, that student wouldn't be so easy to ignore.
>>97784251its 4chan u fuckin crybitch lmao just ignore it if you dont enjoy it holy fuck
>>97772143It's definitely somebody whose played both BECMI and ACKS would say.
>>97784912>ESLembarrassing
>>97784038Do it, let's see him have another meltdown.
>>97785965You're pathetic when you talk to yourself like that, fishfag
>>97785965call the mods
>>97784912>That's what someone who plays games would sayLike you'd know.
>>97765969Because AD&D 1e is just better.
>>97786091>>97786195>>97786292>>97786366>4 posts in a row from the same guy.
>>97786622>fishfag trying the "no u" comeback againThere's obviously a handful of us just one of you. Let it go, retard.
>>97784251>OH NOE THE PDF IS OPENING IN MY BROWSER WHAT DO IT DOOOOOOO?
>>97786930Scream boring into the void like it's a protective chant?
>>97786930Why ignore a retard when he drops such fantastic meltdowns, like the one in this pic? >>97783734Also, it's pretty funny that >>97783793 would try to pretend he didn't write that meltdown. >>97783800I don't think anyone on this board could replicate that same level of self-important, intense cringe. It's such a distinctive style.
>>97783734>Which he counts 0-9 instead of 1-10 years which is weirdProbably Dragonlance was released in 1984, for both 1 and 2e AD&D and therefore would be On-topic, which is unacceptable for reasons arcane to me.
>>97782390>kek how could he argue against this image?I know fishfag's inability to count to ten is hard to believe, but here you have it in full display, even after that image was posted. See it for yourself:>>97783734>>97787188He claims that the first decade lasted 11 years, 1974-1984, because he wants to include Dragonlance.However, because he's not just a retard, but a literally insane retard, he phrases as "they claim that a decade lasts 10 years because they want to exclude Dragonlance".It's baffling, I know, but he's been doing this for years.
>>97787939>It's bafflingBy this point the only baffling thing is how someone with such a clear developmental disability (maybe even multiple) manages to use a computer in the first place.
>>97786622only one of those was me, you retard>>97787177holy SHIT he still thinks a decade is 11 years, AND his post got [Deleted] BAHAHAHAHA
>>97787188>>97787177is this ESL, brain damage, or both?
>>97766394Most literate /tg poster
>>97767189Kek is this true? It just works like modern dnd where the dungeon crawling rules are>uh, figure it out man
>>97788307Yep! DCCposters hate admitting it, but the game has no actual rules for dungeon crawling. >>97788302>cant refute me, resorts to using just "peepee poopoo!"
>>97788307I love the 5e DMG.Dungeon delving rules: >6 encounters per day: 3 before lunch and another 3 after lunch. Balance them by CR.Wilderness exploration rules:>6 encounters per day, 3 before lunch and another 3 after lunch. Balance them by CR.Seafaring adventure rules: >6 encounters per day, 3 before lunch and another 3 after lunch. Balance them by CR.Flying adventure rules: >6 encounters per day, 3 before lunch and another 3 after lunch. Balance them by CR.It's like whoever wrote those is almost as autistic as fishfag is.
>go into non-/osrg/ thread>it's the same /osrg/ schizos smearing shit on the walls while screaming at each otherCan you faggots book a trip to Canada and apply for MAID? You make dozens of thread unusable.>b-b-but HE'S doing it!No, fuck you Pete, get a job or something instead of actively making the board worse by trying to "win" internet fights.
>>97788427>get a job or somethingthis keyboard doesn't type itself, y'know!
>>97788427afraid I can't return to canada -- im wanted for a rather serious "matthew broderick" type of situation up there.
>>97765969You're trying to fuck the gm.
>>97788652proper fuck?
>>97788427.
>>97787939>He claims that the first decade lasted 11 yearsMan. 10 plus 74 is not 83. You are a fucking weirdo who can't math.
>>97788263>>97788220I deleted my own post, realizing I put sage in the incorrect field.
>>97788840let's try one more time, fishfag. can you count to ten?
>>97788864>1974>1Anon, you're retard.
>>97788881Yes, 1973 to 1974 is one year. What about this is in dispute? Or are you just trolling?
>>97788893'74-'75 is one year*Just a mistype. But yes, regardless, the first year is indeed "1" year :)
>>97787120You actually can't help yourself. You have to look and get mad. lol
>>97788881What? explain your reasoning please.
>>97788930I don't think it's possible to "get mad" when reading that kind of meltdown.It's one of the funniest spazz-outs ever seen on this board, the culmination of a what happened when a genuine shill tried to promote ACKS during its kickstarter in the /3eg/, and instead of succesfully pitching the game to anyone he was bullied mercilessly. That's genuine emotion coming from the little sperg, and it's all directed at a fictional entity he created because he couldn't cope with the idea that more than one person might find his story to be dull.We might be at the point where his continued shitposting is just to try and erase the shame he feels whenever he's reminded of how badly he embarassed himself, which is even more funny because it just keeps adding to that shame.
>>97789062Whats youre favorite ACKS class? For me, its nobirian
>>97788930As proven in the post above, now that someone's pointed out he could've very easily false flagged it himself all he has left is manifesto-posting and repeatedly saying meltdown to try and cover for him not being able to answer >>97783800 this shit.If he doesn't have that post so he can scream "See, see, people who think I'm a retard are cringe" then what's he got exactly?
>>97789116>not being able to answerthere wasnt a question in that post thobeit
>>97789094Whoa there fella, just because I mentioned ACKS doesn't actually make me a homosexual.>>97789116You being this embarrassed by your own posts just makes it funnier.
Gentle reminder that all interaction about ACKS just feeds the cancer. No one likes you, you're not owning the bot, you're just keeping it active. There is nothing to be gained replying to posts about this game, in favor or against them. Even if made by newfags, the end result of any post about ACKS is a repeat of the same "discussion" we've been having ruining threads for years at this point.
>>97789205>Just let the bot win by not talking about this /tg/ system on /tg/>You should just give in when people insist on shitposting something off the boardOr we could just keep talking about it and let the autist who wants to make sure no one can talk about it sit on his thumb and beat his dick impotently over it.How's that sound?
>>97789224If you can't handle people calling a system shit without having meltdowns for hundreds of posts where you try and claim everyone you don't like is one guy, you might want to find an actual hugbox to crawl into.People are going to call ACKS shit because it's a mediocre game played by some pretty awful people like yourself, and no one is intimidated at all by the idea that if they call your game shit you'll spazz out and call them something like "fishfag." How you ever thought that strategy would work is beyond me.
>>97788840>>97788893>>97788932>10 plus 74 is not 83.Let's try this way, fishfag. Tell me which of the following statements you agree with and which you disagree with:1974 is one year1974–1975 is two years1974–1976 is three years1974–1977 is four years1974–1978 is five years1974–1979 is six years1974–1980 is seven years1974–1981 is eight years1974–1982 is nine years1974–1983 is ten years1974–1984 is eleven years.
>>97788893>1973 to 1974 is one yearSo 1973 only is zero years. You're truly a marvel of retardation, fishfag.
>>97789550More importantly, the only reason he quibbles over it is because he wants Dragonlance to be an osr setting.Which it isn't and never will be regardless of when it was made.This entire argument is "I want to talk about a classic motorbike in the classic cars thread and you're a chud for telling me to fuck off"
>>97789266>meltdownsFishfag can't tell the difference between people pointing and laughing at him and people having a meltdown.Add it to the list of reasons many of us have come to the conclusion the he has an actual developmental disorder causing him to have a defective theory of mind.
>>97789094>Whats youre favorite ACKS class? For me, its nobirianNTA. I've fallen in love with the whole shaded magic thing, but I haven't used it at he table. But I think I would love to play a spellsinging character or a loremaster or something like that.
>>97789581>More importantly, the only reason he quibbles over it is because he wants Dragonlance to be an osr setting.>Which it isn't and never will be regardless of when it was made.Yeah, we've told him multiple times that we know perfectly well that storyfaggotry existed already during the first decade and that /osrg/ is not merely about first decade D&D, but about first decade D&D played in a certain way. So it's a completely moot point anyway: Even of Dragonlance had been made in 1979 it would still be storyfaggotry and not what the /osrg/ is about.
>>97789591I get that you're just one of those "lie often and shamelessly" kind of people, but you're not doing yourself any favors by hoping to convince anyone that https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96434718/#96583816 wasn't the funniest meltdown, or that you're not going through another one right now.
>He's still hammering that post desperately while screaming "You can't ignore my I win button"And then he wonders how everyone knows it was him that wrote it.Look at him, he's even got it bookmarked. Look at him and laugh.
Dang. Bullying this little sperg about his meltdown went from funny to actually kind of sad.Look, I don't want to use the excuse that you bring it on yourself, but you kinda do.
>>97789778You've admitted that you wrote that, fishfag. Picrel.
>>97790247Place your bets on his response now lads. Will it be>I ham nurt yuur fishfarg>Completely ignoring it and pretending he's not BTFO'd>Screaming about how everyone except him is having a meltdown while his ass glows bright blue with Cherenkov radiation
>>97790286You don't need to be so scared of someone replying that you try to block a response by anticipating it, as if that would even work. I understand why you'd be frightened, but you really need to learn some better ways to cope.I don't know who hurt you, but you're genuinely making me feel bad about bullying you, because you clearly have no way of dealing with that and it's actually gotten painful to watch you try to cope in the only ways you know. I'm not going to apologize, because though I feel bad for you you're still kind of just a dumb cunt, but if you really just don't want anyone dragging up how badly you embarassed yourself, try to not constantly derail threads just to have a meltdown over your bogeyman nemesis.
>>97790413>scaredAgain with the autistically broken theory of mind. Nobody's afraid of you, fishfag, you're hilarious.
>>97789139homphobia is not okay>>97789205>>97789266ACKS is fun and based actually>>97789550I cant believe this faggot STILL cant figure out how many years is in one decade, holy shit>>97789564Read the post directly below where I corrected myself, dummy
>>97790413>You don't need to be so scared of someone replying that you try to block a response by anticipating itinb4 this retard cant into inb4
>>97790488Already withdrawing into your coping strategies? You know someone already compiled a list of them, right? >>97778349He just described them as canned responses, but it seems like they're your method of retreating. Which, I'm sure you'd agree would be a strange thing to do for a person who's not scared.The part that's actually kind of ironic is that you're the one who's built up your bogeyman to be so terrifying in your mind. Contrary to what lies you keep repeating and trying to convince everyone (and maybe even convince yourself), with your bogeyman being only the most negative interpretations of a compilation of everyone you've ever disagreed with, you're a constant witness to the truth, and the truth is that most of the posts that disagree with you really make you out to be a petty little idiot with mental issues.The posts poking fun at your meltdown would be especially terrifying to you, because you're so touchy about your ego and anyone making fun of how ineffective your "interenet tough guy" rants are. I'm actually kind of amazed you'd even try to pretend it was a falseflag post, since you should be aware there's absolutely no chance anyone would believe you.It's the kind of desperation that can only be born from terror.You can proceed to panic post if you want, but take my advice and don't even bother. It'll just end up as material for people to embarrass you with later.
>97790488>97790548>97790548Ah, too late, he already went ahead with his panic posting.
>The posts poking fun at your meltdown would be especially terrifying to you, because you're so touchy about your ego and anyone making fun of how ineffective your "interenet tough guy" rants are.
>>97790608I'm not pretending to be half as scary as your imaginary enemy is to you. You're dealing with something that lives in your head, and all I can say with that is "good luck, but you're probably fucked."
>>97790584lol okay fishfaggo cry to the mods faggot
>>97790584>withdrawing >coping >terrifying >meltdown >touchy>>97790597>panicNobody's afraid or upset at you, fishfag. You're a hilarious marvel of literal mental retardation.
>>97767399Was absolutely put off by this nauseatingly boring waste of a few hundred pages
>>97790839
>>97790896cool story bro
>>97790897
>>97790839What about people with Ichthyophobia?
>>97791196how many years pass from Jan1 1974 to Dec31 1983?
>>97767224Oh yeah? where in the class abilities does it ay how long dungeon turns are? It's a basic ass rule any dungeon crawler needs. "You can not have a meaningful campaign if strict time records are not kept" - GygaxEven 5.5 D&D still has it, albeit you have to dig deep in the DMG to find it.>>97769179the cabinet is Wizardry, et al. Some of the first video games ever made were just porting D&D from pen and paper to computer.
>>97788427send me a DM instead of acting like a faggot lmaootherwise go run to the mods again or something
>>97770084is DCC even racist? I think you're confusing it for the Ernest Gygax NuTSR stuff.
>>97791242While I agree with you on DCC, be aware that>You can not have a meaningful campaign if strict time records are not keptIn its original, Gygax was referring to strict timekeeping in downtime and between sessions, when no play is happening. He wasn't talking about keeping track of time in dungeons.
>>97791259dropped a word>In its original CONTEXT
>>97791196>Fishfag still tries to claim he's more than one person.The sad truth for you is that everybody recognises you instantly because of your very impressive array of deeply weird mannerisms and mental retardation, such as the fact that you keep insisting that a decade lasts eleven years.
>>97791276NTA, but you endlessly insisting on repeating your "it's all one guy" lie isn't helping you. Not even you believe it.All it's done is... 200 posts, 200 posts of you shitting yourself, and all it's done is show how much a shitbag you are in case anyone needs proof. You really have a bad habit of not realizing how badly you've embarrassed yourself until it's far too late. But, you'll just try to claim this whole thread was just a falseflag, I bet.On a serious note, I genuinely meant it when I said "good luck" to overcoming your brain demon. But, I also meant it when I said that you're probably fucked.
>>97780668Is there anyone /osrg/ DOESN'T get in a fight with though?I have literally never seen them engage with anyone and not end up calling them a faggot who should kill themself.Fishfag sounds like a fag, but none of this sounds like atypical drama for them.>inb4 an /osrg/ accuses me of being fishfag too because I didn't glaze them unconditionally
>>97791276>im not real!>and the mods are on my side!kill yourself, fishfag>>97791332kysurself
>>97791403Kill your self your self?
>>97791407this but unironically tbdesu
>>97791413I wonder how many of you /osrg/ posters are real grognards from the hayday vs 13 year olds pretending lol.
>>97791444>grognards from the haydayidk what this means but ive been playing dnd for over 20 years and im 33 now
>>97791451>idk what this means but ive been playing dnd for over 20 years4e came out in 2008. You're not a grog in any regards I'm afraid.To be a proper TSR era grog you'd need to be in the hobby at least 30 years, and that would still mean you only barely started right before WotC took it over, which is basically an exact description of the claim to pedigree that Matt Colville clings to like a shipwrecked sailor. So the youngest a true grog that actually grogs like a grog can be is probably like 50. Which is what makes me wonder how few of them there can actually say they were around playing "Real DND" rather than being the TTRPG equivalent of those Gen Alphas that listen to Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac.
>>97791531>o be a proper TSR era grognever claimed anything of the sort>4e came out in 2008never played 4e and twenty one years ago was 2005, not 2008
>>97791545>never played 4e and twenty one years ago was 2005, not 2008right, my point was you're at the very tail end of 3e era. You're an entire edition away.
>>97791606Cool? Irrelevant and I didnt ask though.
>>97791531Most of these guys are just standard Millennial and Zoomer reactionaries trying to build an identity in opposition to the degeneracy of theater kid tieflings by constructing a non-existent hobby golden age in late 70's Wisconsin to return to. Ironically, the actual AD&D grogs are much less one-true-way because their golden years with the hobby were spent ignoring half the rules in the PHB and DMG.
>>97791612I'm having a tough time believing you're actually 33, tbqh famalam. You have a chip on your shoulder typically only seen in people too young to have knee pain.
>>97791943>You have a chip on your shoulderFor what? Im still not even sure what you think youre talking about
>>97791322>NTAIt's fascinating how all these Anons who are totally not fishfag talk the same.
>>97791444I started playing in 1984. I was nine. We were playing BE, AD&D, and Gamma World second edition.
>>97791794>by constructing a non-existent hobby golden age in late 70's Wisconsin to return to.That golden age did exist. It's still the best way to play an RPG and the only correct way to play D&D. Recognising this does not make millennials and zoomers posers, it makes them less retarded than you are.As for the idea that you have to be at least 50 to be a grog >>97791531 which I happen to be, coincidentally (I will be 51 this year), it's also retarded: grog refers to a set of interests, not to an age. It's as if you were saying that you need to have been born in the 15th century in Italy or Spain to call yourself a Chess player, that's idiotic.
>>97792587>That golden age did exist. It's still the best way to play an RPG and the only correct way to play D&D. lol alright buddy, see you in five years when some rightoid grifter has convinced you shitposting about a different game is the only way to save the West.
>>97792587I think the most telling word in that post is "Reactionaries"He's basically admitting that he thinks anyone who plays osr is a chud and that it's a sacred duty of his to cause them problems because they're all RETVRN types in his mind.Can't just be people want to play a game, no-no, it's all about The Cause©, because that's how it is for him.Pure projection by a brainlet.
>>97793397Yep. And he did it again here:>>97793383>when some rightoid grifter has convinced youBesides having a literal developmental disability and being a narcissist, fishfag is also either a /pol/tard, a Mongrel Banquet Club troll, or both.
>>97791242It's in the start if the book, where it talks about turns vs rounds, along with stats. When talking about class abilities, you have to look beyond the page and actually think about how that could result in dungeon design, something that's undoubtedly difficult for someone with cock on the brain 24/7 like you.It gives you travel times, an idea of how wilderness is, random building tables for common monsters, and how you can set up exploration, traps, and puzzles with ways players can interact with it.The only real big thing is needing a better table for goods and services and how long torches last. I'd recommend 1d6+1 turns
>>97793383>see you in five years when some rightoid grifter has convinced you shitposting about a different game is the only way to save the West
>>97793847>When talking about class abilities, you have to look beyond the page and actually think about how that could result in dungeon designThe way that 52 years after the birth of D&D the rules to run dungeon adventures and the art of dungeon design have been forgotten to the extent that WotCtards, 2etards, DCC tards, and other such RPG tourists like (You) come up with bullshit of this calibre is something that'll never cease to amaze and fascinate me.
>>97793383>ee you in five years when some rightoid grifter has convinced you shitposting about a different game is the only way to save the Westfucking what?seek meds, fishfag
I'm going to be charitable to the clinically retarded here and say I think he's trying to say "You only like and talk about ACKS because you're all /pol/shitters who huffed the hairy, sweaty nuts of culturewario so hard it gave you brain fog."You know, his usual projection schtick.In which case I have this to say to you, Dagonite:Nah, I like ACKS because it's a game that has built into it the presumption that at some point your characters are going to become leaders, rulers and people that matter rather than wandering cocksuckers who won a sword and two sets of pants.Stop thinking everyone has the same brain worms you do.Or, if it helps maybe I could put it like this: Iä! Iä! Dagon Faggohtagen
>>97789266ACKS is an amazing game with huge attention to detail and serious real thought put into everything it has. It's a good faith attempt at a game similar to the D&D it is based on. It's so based that you can't even discuss it on any of the subreddits you should be able to, and that was done for political reasons. It's definitely on topic there and here and anywhere. What it isn't, is sweeping the world by storm or anything. But that doesn't appear to be its goal. It appears to be achieving its goal.It's actually one of the quick litmus tests for if someone is normal or not. If they have a strongly negative view of ACKS, then they have that opinion for some illegitimate reason unrelated to the game. The game is not for everyone, but it makes no false claims about itself, so anyone seething is just a mad cuck for some reason.
>>97793869Or maybe the tard here is you.
>>97793869I'm pretty sure it's just you being a fag unable to take the lessons of 52 years and being able to make your own thing
>>97794235>>97794421I (and many others) understand both the traditional and the "new" way to run and design dungeons, appreciate the differences, and know why we prefer the traditional one.You've made it amply obvious in the replies above in the chain that you have no clue what you're talking about.
>>97794852That's great champ, thanks for missing the point again
>>97794852If you had any understanding of anything in D&D dong breath you would not make a retarded post saying that somehow making and running dungeons was forgotten after 1e like everything after than point was gay people in coffee shops or something. Even that people who were not in OSR movement (e3 and later) were still able to making and running dungeons. Hell even e3 D&D saw things like sunless citadel and forge of fury showing WotC was able to do dungeons well.
>>97794047Nobody was talking about ACKS my man. You're pre-empting arguments nobody has actually made out of insecurity.
>>97794938The issue is not whether you're able to make and run dungeons, but how you do it. And I'm sorry, but the examples you gave only confirm that you have no clue what the difference is.
>>97795341The issue is you are a retard who drools.
>>97795378nta but hes right and acting bitchy isnt a good argument.
>>97796599Saying he is right would imply he had an argument and not just acting like a retarded nogames. retard.
>>97796782In fantasy adventure games (of which DCC is one), dungeon design is going to be *heavily* informed by the dungeon crawl procedural rules. Given that DCC lacks those entirely, that is going to strongly color how dungeons for that game get designed, as they will have entirely different goals than in a game like BX.Im not sure why youre acting like such a defensive shitheel, but go fuck yourself, faggot.
>>97796911Only you know why you keep posting even when all you know is eating dicks.
>>97796930>>97796782>fishfag has a tantrum talking about the games he doesnt playCommon occurence.Care to share a character sheet that you play with, nogames?
DCC is a shit game into the trash is goesi am a big guyU U U U
>>97796930>>97796782>ESLew.
