12 hours remain edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97764247>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Final adepticon hopes and expectations, but for real this time
>>97769008Aren't dnd planes ACTUALLY different dimensions? Maybe that's where the confusion comes from.
>>97769017>TQi think it'll turn out to be somewhat more milquetoast and lame than what people were expecting and another edition will pass by
>>97769017Know your fate.
Here's the real question; during the streadm will they address the leak at all, even obliquely?
It's all according to plan guys. Trust GW, trust the Plan, trust in the franchise
>>97769053Where is that guy's nose? This looks like AI generated Hearthstone art. Then again there's a brown in it, so it is probably official AoS art.
>>97769053No.And the bald fat faggot will try his best to ignore us.
>>97769031D&D has had like six different cosmoloies over the decades. The most common one and the currently popular one is the great wheel, which has 16 outer planes which are each "infinite" but also linked to adjacent planes by rivers and portals and other unique features. They're generally organized by the ideals they represent with Good/Evil and Law/Chaos on opposite sides and every gradient in between. The planes are also all linked to a single city called Sigil that operates as neutral territory and then there are the elemental and material planes they all connect to as well through the astral plane that exists between the inner and outer planes and is the realm of elementals and mortals respectively. In some versions there are many different material planes as wells though, which house the various different D&D settings.
>>97769017>Final adepticon hopes and expectationsrevamped Maw tribes and Umbraneth announcement
I can't believe we're being End Timed AoS bros... Do we really deserve it?
>discord trannies are STILL raidingdo they get off on being humiliated?
No they more likely have nothing better to do.
>>97769110sins of the father(aos1.0)
>>97769115They don't actually engage with the hobby so they can just alt tab out of TWW to shitpost when AI is taking its turns
>>97769115>everything I don't like is doscrdraidingit's okay lad I remember being there when WHFB got axed, I didn't want to accept it at first , too. Then I accepted it and now they're killing their setting again. GW must really hate fantasy
So the game's really dying?
>>97769132you didn't know WFB existed before the release of TWW, you fucking faggot
>>97769072Thank you for revealing yourself to be a culture war secondary
the game is dying and is all (You)r fault.
It did feel weird that a lot of content for AoS could fit neatly into WFB with little changes.
>>97769076This sounds 10x times more convoluted than what aos has honestly. Like here it's just oh there's a light planet. There's a death planet.Only when you get to like sub-realms and how the perimeter inimical works does shit get """complicated""" but even then it's very simple.
>>97769135basically, yeah. TOW is dominating us despite only being a specialist game and after the failure that were Dominion and the HoH, this is their last attempt to save it
>>97769145nah, I bought models. >>97769152sure but DandD doesn't lead with that stuff. It leads with basic fantasy adventures. AoS leads with the Realms.
>Do you condemn Warhammer Fantasy Battles?>Do you believe Age of Sigmar has the right to exist?>It's antisigmaric to call Age of Sigmar a failed IPAoS threads are spiritually-Israelil lmao
>>97769158>posting the edit>mobile filenamecan't make this shit up
>>97769158That list is fake as fuck, there's no way Warmachine is that high
>>97769152they are not planets, they are basically different layers over a single reality, unlike AoS, where every realm was basically its own self-contained world. Every plane depends on the Prime material plane, the realms just go willy-nilly all over the place without rhyme or reason. Which is great for a wargame where logistics do not matter and hard numbers of how many elves exist are the bane of any setting inetgrity, but bad for storytelling
>>97769158>The grog keeps posting fake newsMust be sad be always on the losing side of history.
>>97769166ICv2 makes their shit up, why can't that dude? Two approximately equal data-gathering methodologies.
>>97769176>AoS, where every realm was basically its own self-contained worldBut they aren't self-contained, they all orbit each other in space. Hysh is the sun of the other Realms
When this threads will be clean again? The amount of ridiculous shit since Sunday is unbearable
>>97769181
>>97769162That joke really wasn't good enough that you can use it twice. It gave me a good chuckle the first time around don't get me wrong, but trying it again in a different thread makes you look a bit desperate.>>97769166I wonder if they even know or if they just saw someone post it as a shitpost and thought it was real
Now that the dust has settled, why did Age of Sigmar flop?
>REBOOOT?>B-B-B-BUT I JUST GOT HERE
>>97769189yeah, and that is already too convoluted. The D&D planes do not interact, except to form demiplanes. The real world, the material plane, is the anchor where all intersect and thus give rise to the setting. This is like you would play an entire D&D game in the Astral plane - sounds fun at first, but gets tedious fast because the realm gimmick is quickly overplayed na dgets bpring. This is basically what happened with AoS, the existing realms were already so boring and uninteresting that they didn't even care to flesh Azyr and Ulgu out before canning all of it
>>97769196It was absolutely good enough to use twice (and to repeat in future AoS threads). It gave you quote-unquote a good chuckle.
>>97769176>the realms just go willy-nilly all over the place without rhyme or reason.Like I said, y'know here's a death planet, here's a light planet. They're flat. Standard stuff.>without rhyme or reasonTake it up with whoever invented the winds of magic (I'd actually like to know it's a cool bit of worldbuilding).
>>97769191This shit might be worse than the TOW announcement period and will probably last longer. I can’t imagine people existing being this pathetic, but here we are.
>>97769200Not enough sigmarxism.
I also bring you Mortal Kombat cosmology.
>>97769191Possibly weeks. Also it depends whether GW damage control somehow.
>>97769279at times like these I really wonder why I still come to this shithole of a website
>tiny peninsula on the scale of the world that magically hasn't been conquered by larger powers neighboring it>to the east, vast numberless hordes of subhuman monsters whose corruptive touch ruins everything they get their claws on whose culture can be summarized as prison rape>to the south, vast numberless hordes of subhuman monsters whose devotion to a god of violence and religion of destruction has them battle the heroes every day>to the north, rare and beautiful people of advanced cultures whose low birth rates guarantee their eventual doom>to the west, a maritime empire in permanent decline while their evil enslaving descendants overseas overtake their status as a world power while their upper castes are secretly controlled by a demonic cult>in the center our heroes, the eternally fractious races of civilization who could in theory beat back all their foes if they could merely unite in purpose instead of looking out for their own endsWhy are people pretending this setting makes sense again? Why are we returning to this senseless bullshit when we just got done establishing the realms as something genuinely new and exciting?
>>97769303>>tiny peninsula on the scale of the world that magically hasn't been conquered by larger powers neighboring itNot so fast
>>97769017We know that CoS are getting reveals, what other faction could get reveals?
>>97769312Skaven eshin stuff.Maybe sons of behemat but I wouldn't count on it
>>97769312lumineth get a wind-themed underworlds band with a tiny elementalskaven may get their eshin wave revealed as it's the evil side of the spearhead box where some of the cos will first feature
>>97769213yeah I fundamentally agree that the Realms were a problem. They aren't conceptually bad, I do think if GW made like a "Realms team" of writers and artists who had like 6 months to map and define the Realms, map the known Realmgates and explain how mortal society is shaped by them, etc. they could make it a compelling setting.But they've had 10 years and it just hasn't happened organically and I don't think it will. I mean, for fuck's sake, how is there only one twin-tailed city? Every major Realmgate should have a major city built around it on both sides. Like, that's the most obvious thing in the world.
>>97769303Are you the same guy from a few threads ago who said you can't complain about the world being reformed making the entire Mortal Realms phase being narratively pointless because Germany was divided after the Cold War?You still haven't learned the difference between fiction and reality?
>>97769322I really wish each Skaven clan got a big release to become an army... Maybe with the reboot...
>>97769135More like being "reforged!"Get it?CAUSE THE STORMCAST AREN'T ANYMORE
>>97769336nta or the other anon you're talking about, but everything aos did with the mortal realms will carry on because it's on the continents that are being keptit's not tabula rasa
>>97769339suggesting the separation of skaven clans should get you slapped to death
>>97769357Yeah, haha, what an idea uh?
>>97769200I honestly believe it was female Stormcast getting shoved in all the kits.It killed the nascent Marinefan interest. After that it really was just unforced error after unforced error, with soke cool models along the way.
>>97769369a shit idea with a shit precedent that got fortunately backtracked
>>97769369>>97769384i would take this over chorfs ngl
I can't wait for Age of Sigmar Sigmarppuden
>>97769052I can't believe they're killing Sigmar, he's such a prominent character!
>>97769405I can't wait for Sigmar to lose his powers and work in a McDonalds.
>>97769158TOWsisters... I don't feel so good
Outer /tg/ is making fun of us again
>>97769302Same. At least, unlike them, this website isn’t my only connection to the outside world.
>>97769374>nascent Marinefan interest.Was never a thing.
>>97769076>In some versions there are many different material planes as wells though, which house the various different D&D settings.I think the current DMG actually gives a cursory introduction to the fluff about how the material plane comprises a theoretically infinite number of "crystal spheres" with their own natural laws.It's always confused me that some people seem to think AoS cosmology is somehow impenetrable or hard to grasp, or even all that weird. I mean even glancing over at other popular nerd shit like DnD and MTG should put that to rest. It just makes me think the loudest voices belong to people who only have a surface level knowledge of WHFB fluff and nothing else. It's bizarre.
>>97769295wonder what will happen to MK when the WB buyout happens
>>97769052You're gonna kill yourself after money of this is right. Correct?
>>97769478I don't think many people into mtg or dnd actually care or know about their cosmology their games work without much need of an understanding of what's going on at large, especially now with multiverse crossover shit and overly generic content that only gets mass appeal due to wacky humor from influencers, or what's practically just fantasy romance Warhammer meanwhile requires a somewhat heavier investment and people mostly don't do that unless they get into the worldbuilding
The Eightpoints is just the material plane and the realms are the Outer Planes. There. Easily solved.
>>97769135For people that actually played the game it's been dead awhile, it's very clear the design team has changed with 4e and the story has been meandering since end of 2e. This lines up really well with the timing of staff changes. The aos you liked with 2e and it's lingering influence in 3e is gone.>>97769299Guessing they're rolling out a pr plan soonish, story is picking up a lot of steam that they can't ignore it. Really fucks them up because they want to talk about 11e right now. Blow up their twitch chat and we got dis.Sigmar liedSigmar died
>new battle formation>followers of KurnothWell well well
Spam of Sigmar lied. Sigmar died. In stream reveal today lol
>>97769529>followers of Kurnothwhat are the rules for that? Do we know what the armies of renown are as well?
>>97769534haha absolutely epic raid idea! we are anonymoose!
Kindly requesting 3e and 4e FEC battletomes, thank you.
>>97769529It's Belthanos' AoR
>>97769477It was, not many to begin with, but it was there and building.
>>97769510Sounds stupid to make the evil plane the center of everything, too grimdark even.
What will he do in yet ANOTHER world? Will be his time to shine now?
>>97769478>It's always confused me that some people seem to think AoS cosmology is somehow impenetrable or hard to grasp, or even all that weird.It's because it was half-assed and unclear out of the gate. Many people gave it a shot, and thought it was shit. But those people also didn't disappear, they just play 40k, Fantasy, or something else and are still active in the sphere. From they can spread misinformation, purposely or otherwise.
>>97769590He'll probably be having gay sex with his stormcast bf.
>>97769590Retconet.As every character but Archaon, Sigmar and Nagash.
>>97769593>they just play 40k, Fantasy>Fantasykek
>>97769481Quality shitpost
>>97769611Nothing new. Mannfred debuted in AoS reformed and a little more heroic (Realmgate Wars audio + Reynold's Hallowed Knights) before they Retconned him to recycled WHF Mannfred in 2e
>>97769612Fantasy fans have been around and attempting to strangle AoS since it was born.
Some light readinghttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5vdoryag/chronicles-of-ruin-test-of-loyalty/
>>97769590I hope he becomes a generic character or gets squatted outright arkhan is the only one in that kit that deserves to stay
>>97769624Nah, we kinda just don't care about you guys and your game. You guys have been shitting up our threads on and off for ten years, though. Please stop.t. Fantasy player
>>97769627What interesting fluff, I'm so excited to see where AoS goes with it's world building :)
>>97769624Yeah maybe if all 20 of them actually bought minis the fantasy relaunch would make top10 selling wargames :(
>>97769634t.fantasy "player" shifting up this thread
>>97769624>aos getting strangled by fantasy
>only arch-rev eligible as forest sentinelDammit. Branchwyches absolutely should count too
>>97769648That was the joke, anon.
>>97769627>Let me die. Let me die. Let it end!a cry for help from the writer, in hindsight
>>97769636Morathi and co are going to be sticking around, but it's going to be hilarious when they do this with the new (mortal!) CoS characters in like a month when they're going to be killed off like a year after that.
>>97769666Maybe our assumptions are wrong and there's not a dramatic timeskip.
>>97769627Is this art new? I like it a bit
>>97769676This is from the 2018 Daughters of Khaine Battletome
>>97769676>Is this art new?No, those she elves aren't wearing their burqas.
>>97769682New background for my phone either way. Thanks.
>>97769543Seethe in the darkness, live in denialSigmar liedSigmar died
>>97769664kek
>>97769634The balls to make this post when grogs, real grogs, can be seen in every social media crying for the failed product that was fantasy and throwing hate at aos, the succesful alternative for more than ten years are out of this world lol
>>97769694I'm not the one shitposting in a general about a hobby I don't participate in, I think it's clear who's the seething one
>>97769636I think these sorts of internal divisions will actually see more play in 5E. If they're willing to split up CoS into (at least) two big, rival, nations they'll probably do the same thing with other armies, on a smaller scale. Krethusa leading a breakaway nation instead of just a network of spies is quite possible
if you could add something new in this new reboot, an army, a character, some lore element, what will you add? could be anything.
>>97769704they are splitting cos? into what?
>>97769713Femboy army
>>97769689>his phone looks like thiswhat the
>>97769704>the krethusa enclaves >>977697135 new elf factions
>>97769728It's a new leaker, so not fully confirmed, but some of his posts did get Whitefang likes in support.He claimed that CoS is headed by two big countries, their respective capitals being Hammerhall Aqshy (Stubborn Sigmar Worshippers, Le Bad) and Hammerhall Ghyran (Taal Worshipers, "Progressive")
>>97769728hammerhal ghyra and hammerhal aqsha are further diverging culturally: aqsha is the zealot ultra sigmarites who think sigmar hasn't died but actually defeated archaon and is simply momentarily missing in action, hammerhal ghyra worships taal as their main patron deity now (taal is just the human name for kurnouth)if I have to bet on it, it won't mean that ghyra is getting a separate range or book, but rather just that it will connect further with pic related, the founder of verdigris in the danwbringers campaign who became a kurnothi
>>97769713Retcon the end times and how aos followed itthe mortal realms were created with the great catastrophe instead and the war for the old world and the realms/new world is happening in parallel
Did anyone catch this yet? Avatar of khaine got turned into a manifestation.
>>97769701So successful it's getting nuked and its titular character murdered lol. Honestly seethe harder buddy it's like meat and drink.
>>97769799finished that TWW campaign yet, shitskin?
>>97769799>titular characterI find it hilarious that these fake grogs try to pretend Sigmar is unique to AoS and not a central character in all versions of Fantasy.
>>97769793Always felt it was weird as a (pseudo) unit, manifestation fits better IMO.
>>97769017We still having a collective meltie?
>>97769830if you mean the tranny discord raid, that is still ongoing
>>97769830the Warhammer fanbase still hasn't recovered from the apocalypse that went on 10 years ago, how do you expect it to deal with a second apocalypse that's going to happen next year or something?
>>97769830It cooled down a bit last night but seems it's back in full force. Expect this to last for a while with a brief interlude for adepticon where we'll be enjoying anons' opinions on the new models. Exciting times ahead!
>>97769659Wizards aren't allowed to be a sub commander because... Uh... 'balance'
>>97769854Truly the ancient Cathayan curse has come to pass for the Mortal Realms
>>97769830Honestly, the only people seeming to have melties about this still are the trolls and retarded raiders. Actual AoS fans are discussing it calmly probably because they can actually comprehend the potential lore changes compared to random retards who don't know anything about AoS to begin with.
>>97769840Why do these idiots even bother to do this? It's obvious they don't know anything about either aos or wfb, are they really all tww secondaries? I don't understand.
>>97769728Order of Azyr (Inquisition/zealots/witch hunters)Cogforts (machines, technology, progress)
>>97769866Gw opening the ancient tomb king moulds in 2024 released a pharaoh's curse
>>97769713The bugger guys from the side game lore, silent ones or whatever. Beasts of GorkaMorka (he took 'em in because the bray lads wanted to get propa' fighty and spikey gods wasn't lettin' 'em)
>>97769883Tga is in full meltdown and reddit is denial, but anons here seem relatively neutral on the prospect of the realms merging, true. By anons here I mean the actual aosg regulars, not our overseas visitors of the last few days.
I believe the leak.
>>97769713Just really want good rules and fun battle tomes again. My biggest cope right now is 4e was invented as a purposeful stopgap, which is still fucking shitty but at least there's hope for the future.I guess it would be cool to see sigmar split amongst his followers like grimnir with the runes and there's only ever so many sce that get replaced when they die. It's kind of a shitty end for a character if he just dies after like 30 years of being the main god or symbol of hope for humans. The least they could do is kill of archaon so we can get some new power dynamics for chaos.
>>97769886a lot of it are either secondaries or god help you WFB/TOW grogs whose only enjoyment in life is having a misplaced sense of superiority over a game system that's more popular than theirs who also can't readalso a few 40ktards but most of them seem curious more than anything about the situation
>>97769933TGA melts down about literally anything though, that place is full of drama queens.
>>97769945were whitefang and boole always weird ass riddle-making faggots to gain more interest and admiration on that forum? i don't see why they can't just flat out confirm or deny rumors or speculation instead of faggy shit like this
>>97769935We're long past the point where they might be fake, they're practically confirmed now.
>>97769933I mean, I do have some reservations but they're more practical ones. The Realms merging is whatever, GW has been dangling that plot point for almost 10 years now. The things I don't like presently are the implied shift of CoS/Stormcast to be even more grimderp and similar to IG and Space Marines, and just the unanswered question of how all the many many AoS special characters are going to be handled. Like it depends partially on the implementation, but if we're looking at a huge apocalypse followed by an equally huge timeskip (so that everyone remaining is focused on the "present" instead of clinging to the old realms) like realistically that's going to be mass carnage for characters, especially CoS. If it's like, the realms collapsed in an instant, most people survived, and that was five years ago, that changes things, but I don't think that's the direction GW will go in. I saw someone on TGA hint at some retarded reincarnation bullshit for Tahlia in particular, so I guess we'll have to wait and see how derpy GW is willing to get with this.
>>97769962Whitefang is usually pretty straightforward but boole has always been a little attentionwhore.That being said for a leaker that's actually fairly direct. Like at least he ends up saying there's 6 versions and giving us the names of two. Tow and 40k have leakers writing poems and shit for you to figure out the "hidden meaning".
>>97769962Literally yes.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/o46n5tfs/daughters-of-khaine-rules-choose-your-army-of-renown/
>>97769974I'm okay with them removing named characters, I personally really dislike pre-made characters.
>>97770012cute snek tummies
>>97769976that's not how i'm interpreting it; based on what he's saying there are 2 different kinds of cogfort (immolator and linebreaker) and one has 4 legs while the other has 6no way in hell GW are making 6 different cogforts unless they're modular pieces on the same sprue or something
>>97770030Immolator and Linebreaker are the two warscroll configurations for CoS. If the rumor holds that they can ally with all 4 GA’s, then they’ll get specific named warscrolls like SoB.
>>97769146Depends on which editionFirst edition they were clearly going for a uber high fantasy look and feellater editions, especially from the third onward definitively felt more like WhFB
Reminder not to stay up past your bedtime to watch the preview Britanons, it ain't gonna be worth it
>>97770013I like the special characters, I consider them one of the charm points of Warhammer across all settings and games. Besides, even if they nuked them all, GW would just add a bunch of new special characters anyway, it would be a temporary reprieve for you at best.I'm mostly just curious as to how it will be handled, because there's a big spectrum of extremely lame or pretty cool possibilities there. Turning them into generics for example I think is usually pretty lame, depending on how unique the character was to begin with, but also jumping through hoops to make everyone fall into a magic portal and emerge 1000 years later can also get pretty stupid. There's a middle ground in there somewhere.
>>97769974>all the many many AoS special characters are going to be handledit doesn't seem like any is getting removed
>>97770045would be interesting to see people's kitbashing of cogforts to fit their faction if they're going to be usable in every grand allianceskaven parasite engine here we come
>>97770054But I wanna shitpost with you guys.
>>97770059The models will stay. We don't have a hard confirm on the characters yet.
>>97769017funny enough if they actually nuke the setting for "The last world" or what ever its called its gonna do exactly what i said it should have done in the first place. Various planes of existence is retarded, and it does not create scale or relatability. Either way, get ready AoS kids, game could only last 10 years before the setting flopped.
>>97769713Herald, mother fucking, hammerstorm.
>>97770088Harald, you philistine.
>>97769481I laughed out loud.
>>97770030>>97770045He posted that after another leaker (whitfang jr) posted the names of two of the warscrolls (cannonade and conqueror) and then hinted at at least one other variant existing. We're getting 6 warscrolls, 4 of which we have names for, and one of the others is implied to be a named variant (like canis rex for 40k or brodd for gargants).Remember, these are enormous kits. They're going to have more than 2 warscrolls.
>>97769713I'm gonna be extreme here and ask them to add some actual normal human knights with lances, maybe some dwarfs with pants, maybe an elf who isn't riding a giant dildo while wearing a whole fucking chandelier as a hat.
>>97770074>Various planes of existence is retarded,>ANOTHER retard who doesn't understand what the realms areOkay I fully understand GW now the concept of a magic solar system is clearly too much to handle for most people, I don't think I've met a non aos player who understood that the realms aren't multidimensional "planes of existence", and honestly quite a bit of aos players who didn't Of all the mistakes gw made during their 2015 shitshow I didn't really expect overestimating their audience to be one of them but clearly I was wrong
>>97769659My god, what are they doing with treelords to warrant that massive increase in points, when Durthu is apparently untouched? And Alarielle dropping 80 points probably means she's losing her ressurection (good riddance).
>>97770153anon i understand they reworked the shit, but the problem is the damage is done, they fucked up. They tried to copy some retarded version of Norse mythology and it poisoned the well, its why they cant get away from it. As above so below. They fucked up at the start and gave AoS bad bones from teh get go. you can dress it up all you want but the rot is already there. There is a reason why GW is already rebooting the fucking setting because they fucked themselves so hard.
>>97769659Is Grove Guardian the only priest?
>>97769713Two petitions:Morathi keeps being in charge of Dark Elfs just to spite Malerion fags.Do something productive with Orruks, and i mean something without any sidekicks. Hell Destruction as a whole needs a big bone.
>>97770155>My god, what are they doing with treelords hopefully actually making them good instead of glorified screens.
>>97770050I think that's mostly just because they rapidfired all their new factions in 1st and 2nd, while they spent most of 3rd and 4th updating their older ranges consisting of mostly older whfb models. Keep in mind helsmiths were our first new battletome since sons of behemat in 2020! Atlthough to be fair we did get kruleboyz as a defacto new army sharing a battletome, and while they're more mudcore than most of the other factions they're also not really like anything in whfb. Well at least current whfb, you gotta go back to like 1980's oldhammer to find proto-kruleboy designs.But yeah 1st and 2nd were crazy man it was a whole new army every few months. Hell idoneth and daughters of khaine were released in back to back months! Can you imagine something like that now?
>>97770137>normal human knights with lanceswe might actually get some tonight with the new CoS according to rumors, they're called gallants>dwarfs with pantssame, the future dwarf souping book will return to their old whfb look>elves without kangaroos, antelopes or helmets without giant racksno idea if they'll keep the Lumineth like they are now or if they'll give them another look
>>97770074>another retard that doesnt even know how the fuck mortal realms workjust leave already, stop embarrassing yourself
if they touch any of the death characters specially my lady olynder i swear to motherfucking god, james...
>>97770167They didn't rework shit, they were always like that.You can dislike the realms all you want anon (hell I do) but at least dislike them for what they actually are instead of for what you think they are.
>>97770204Anon i know they "fixed" it but it does not matter, the AoS setting is a fucked up and poisoned setting. Its been 10 years and you guys STILL cant get away from it. >NO NO Thats not how it works!Ok the problem is, if you need to stop, and going into a 10 min dialog to explain your setting, because you cant describe it in a simple elevator speech your setting is shit. The fact AoS is having to possible get fucking rebooted TEN years in, is evident of that fact.
>>97770196>>normal human knights with lances>we might actually get some tonight with the new CoS according to rumors, they're called gallantsI think gallants are supposed to be an arch-knights (on foot) unit, not something like mounted cav. Best case scenario they look like the command corps arch knight(s) or the steel rook, but realistically they'll probably be closer to picrel (unfortunately)
>>97770232>because you cant describe it in a simple elevator speechbut you can, it's just that retards will not listen
>>97770232Again, nothing was fixed, the realms have always worked one way that you don’t understand. There are no dimensions or alternate realities and never were. It’s a singular cosmos the realms float in. Like planets in a solar system. Hysh is the sun. This is not hard to understand.
aos is the worst gayest corposlop goyshit garbage fagshit ever.orcs? oh you mean Steeljaw Kruleboi Gnashy Smashas ™®goblins? oh you mean Loonie Lunar Luna Gretchin Gnoble Sneakaz™®elves? oh you mean Highkin Noblebright Idonieth Seaborn™®dwarfs? oh you mean Deep Delving Steamwizzle cogwackers™®skaven? oh you mean skaven?a setting that is interesting and coherent? nah man we got a map drawn by a toddler and everyone like lives on a different planet or something its like some epic Marvel Comic book stuff dude its heckin epicerino theres no substance to any of it!!!rank and flank, positioning, good game? nah just like move your huge centerpiece Basedmarine ®™minis designed by an indian gw hired on fiver wherever you want it doesnt matterif i met an aos fan irl i would rape them and kill them by punching them in the head with my fists until their blue-haired craniums were nothing but a pink mush barely attached to their fat bodies>>97770204who gives a shit “how” your retard marvel verse slop “works” retarded faggot. you should apologize for your crimes (liking aos) and commit sudoku while i watch and jerk my uncut BWC (7”, thick as a paper towel roll). I know God loves me and Warhammer Fantasy; I’m not so sure about you and aos…
>>97770265If God loved aos, this wouldnt be happening
>>97770265You should cut the throats of your family and then your own. You have the time in between your TWWH3 turns while the AI plays.
All I'm going to say is that ironically, if you bought gw's war wagon instead of scratchbuilding one yourself that makes you a goyslop corposwallower. Even worse if it was the overpriced mto, but you don't need me to tell you that.
>>97770256What happens when one wanders off the edge? Do they fall in space?
>>97770300You explode, happened to Arkhan.
Should i stay up and shitpost in this thread to bully the AOS faggets as they make the announcement during adapticon or should i go to bed and vicariously enjoy the seethe through a number of sloptubers after i wake up?choices... choices.
>>97770300Nah, the realm’s magic kills you (it gets stronger towards the edges, e.g. in Aqshy you would be immolated long before you actually reach the edge). No one’s ever made that trip. I don’t think there is a reliable answer to your question. I would like to know as well.
>>97770310How's about you paint some minis son
>>97770300The edges of the realms are saturated with magic, the closer to the edges you go, the closer to 100% your chance of having a horrible death by magic.Shyish is the only realm where you can actually walk to the edge and fall down into the void of space because nagash made the center of the realm an unliveable vortex of death magic instead.
>>97770310They're not addressing the rumors, they'll show the reveals, say more is coming and ignore the elephant in the room.
Are people nostalgic for old AoS yet
>>97770300It typically results in physical obliteration. Stuff like Silver Towers, Seraphon temple-ships and Sigmar's Tempest are some rare exceptions to the rule.
>>97770265>unironically thinking anything GW is not corposlop at this pointFucking kek, not even reading the rest of your bullshit. You learned about WFB from the total war game and you've been putting off buying your first models for 5+ years. Just accept that you will never get into this hobby and stop larping for a setting you have no actual investment into.
>>97770300How it works is that the centre of each realm is actually pretty normal all things considered, but as travel farther towards the edge the land gets more and more saturated with the magic of that specific realm. For example, when tyrion (the literal incarnate god of light) stared into the edge of hysh it was bright enough to melt his eyes out of his sockets and turn him blind.Anyway, the void which the realms sits in is apparently diametrically opposed to matter, and reacts violently when it comes into contact with it (basically antimatter). The edge is not a pleasant place to be.
>>97770341No.Some people try to pretend they are bit there's no substance to their claims.
>>97770225>They didn't rework shit, they were always like that.They absolutely toned it down from first edition. Solid explanations only came later, it started with shit like this.
>>97770382This really looks like a drawing made by a bored child. ''A-a-and the fireland was called ASPHYXIA!''
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>>97770307>>97770318>>97770335>If you go off my map you EXPLODE & DIENot a day goes by when I wonder if AoS lore is just a shitpost made by creators who hold their fans in contempt for daring to ask questions about it.
>>97770398>>97770405try spacing your samefaggotry a bit better next time, tourist
>>97770382>Late stage WoW tier sloppa even WoW had the grace to course correct on by now>THIS will sell our game
>>97770153>the concept of a magic solar system is clearly too much to handle for most peoplePeople understand what realms are, they simply don't like them. Realms should have been either themed regions of the same planet or actual separate planets.>Muh realms are planetsNo you ameridumb brainlet. Planets are globes. Some vague flat magical planes hanging in the void, with their geography changing every five minutes are not planets no matter how much you deny it.
Out of all the fancy big daemons gotta say, Kairos is probably the biggest PITA to paint.
>>97770413Meds schizo
I've decided to go to bed, i can always just read through this thread later AND watch sloptuber seethe! maybe i can even read some cuckeddit coping too!See you guys in 12 hours or someshit.
>>97770428>screenshot proving anything>on fucking 4chanlmao you really are a tourist
>>97770405What did you want to happen?Do you want ways to get around that hazard? There areDo you want exceptions where that's not the case? There is
>>97770423>People understand what realms areObviously not, yourself included
>>97770382I'm not denying they toned down the weirdness, but they were never separate planes of existence.>>97770405Try going off map irl and see what happens buddy
>>97770382VGH...SOVL...this was true wargaming, no loreslop to trigger autists, just rolling dice and moving your painted minis
>>97770429rest well, anon
>>97770423>a flat planet is not a planet because... because I want to be mad!
>>97770435take your meds gramps, it still is time until adepticon
>>97770382>Okay so I took Buscephanie on a date over these delicious Vulscese rock cakes when a bunch of fucking Matadickheads strolled by and made us leave>Now she's got the ick and is spending Preptide in the Vale of Bulls, so much for my dreams of marriage>Honestly guys from Matadros give us Lontzfolk such shit for being a small island like they're not an island too, just cause their home has more horns than ours>and don't even get me started on the fucking Pummies
>>97770482>m-meds!keep yapping, sperg
>>97770468>but they were never separate planes of existence.I'd argue that point was more ambiguous than you're making it seem. It was also never laid out like it would be in later editons, with things like realmspheres.
>>97770477>a flat planet is not a planetIndeed, that's true by every definition. AoS realms add another layer of idiocy to this concept by being vague in their geography, not being able to decide if realms are infinite or finite, making them huge yet empty and fucking up the scale in general. Could realms be a cool idea? Perhaps, but the GW's execution sucks.
>>97770522the only two definitions of planets have nothing to do with their shape, only with their movement and their size.>not being able to decide if realms are infinite or finitethat was decided day 1, they're finite.
But when are they adding the Lantern Greatmoth to GSG?
>>97770562never
>>97770548Based retard. Meanwhile International Astronomical Union's definition of a planet:>A planet is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit.
>>97770574not relevant for AoS. Some define magic as not real, yet it is obviously real in AoS, so real-life definitions do not matter
>>97770574No way bro, you're telling me Discworlds aren't scientifically accurate planets? That's fucking mindblowing, holy shit. Doesn't address whether or not they are functionally planets in AoS or any other fantasy/mythological setting that uses them, but go off lil bro. Strut your retarded self.
>>97770574you listed the requirements of movement and sizethe shape in real life is exclusive because it's impossible for something that large to not have a spherical shape, but if it hypothetically existed, it would be considered a planet because it moves in the firmament and because it's large enough when the term was first used they weren't even sure shit was that big or what they were looking at exactly, planet literally means just that it moves in the firmament, unlike how the stars and other celestial objects appeared fixed in the heavenly vault
>>97770585>Nooo no real life definition cares about the planet's shape!>Well it does>Nooo real life definition does not matter here!I accept your concession, we are done here. Stop coping and simply accept that you can like something that many people dislike, simple as.
>AoS squatting rumours leak>GW stock surges Lmao looks like the market didn’t like AoS either
>>97770574>A planet is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, Don't rogue planets exist?ones that are between stars and the like?
>>97770610The only thing you've done is make it abundantly clear that GW did in fact overestimate their audience when they made AoS. The setting, regardless of how good or bad it might be is literally incomprehensible to retards like yourself.
>>97770628You have to have a very high iq to enjoy AoS
>>97770613this cannot be happening bros...this is worse than the release of TOW, how could it come to this?
>>97770610The original post you responded to never included planets, that's just something you decided to get mad about it.
>>97770637A week ago I probably would have disagreed, but damn son, this news has retards flooding out from every corner of the internet admitting that they never understood even the basics of the setting, it's the biggest self report I've ever seen.
>>97770655>moving goalpoststhis is just like yesterday with the elf numbers
>kills your setting How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>97770613>>97770654Don't you two geniuses think this probably has rather less to do with whatever cosmography age of sigmar decided to settle on and more with the imminent announcement of a certain "11th edition" of a certain "most popular wargame in the world by far"
>>97770618the discussion about the official modern definitions is longer and full of caveats because it's one of those things they amend whenever they find something that breaks the rulesscientifically we don't define planets by a set of rules we made and stick to but we derive the rules as conveniently as possible with the goal of having the things we want to call planet be defined as planets and the things we don't want to define as planets as not planetsfor example, the moon, by those definitions, would be a planet, because it's unconventionally large and when you actually trace its orbit you find that it's better described by saying that both the moon and the earth are orbiting the sun together, rather than the moon orbiting the earth and the earth the sun
>>97770669>GW gets a closer look at the potential Warhammer video game audience>Realizes they need to knock of at least 15-20 points of IQ from their customer assumptions in order to cater to that market>Age of Sigmar The Last World is born
>>97770663This says more about you being in all autistic arguments that go on in /aosg/ tbqh.
Does anyone have a pdf of 4th edition Ossiarch Bonereapers?
>>97770663I'm not any of other tards you argued definitions with, I'm the guy you responded to first, and again, started getting upset about planets for zero discernable reason. The realms are planes that exist in the same space, hanging out in a little void in what is essentially a magic version of a solar system. They're not infinite nor are they "planes of existence" like half you retards seem to think. Again, hate them all you like, I'm not a fan either, but at least get it right.
>>97770566Maybe the setting deserves to burn after all...No Silent People, no big moths, no arachnarok incarnate...
painting my seraphon right now, think it's too far to add some symbols of dracothion to them? they know of him and revere the dragons somewhat, in lore.
Don't fear lads, Fantasy is a better system, you'll realize that in a little over a year. You are trading the mortal realms for choice and strategy.
>>97770758made me laugh
>>97769793>>97770721>no arachnarok incarnateWell, we did just get our first faction with both endless spells and manifestations...Trust the plan.>>97770749>symbols of dracothion Does he have any? There's some stormcast imagery that has depictions of dragons I guess, but dracothion specifically? What kind of symbols were you thinking about>>97770758See now these are the kind of shitposts you can respect
>>97770758Since first edition stormcast are discontinued, its only right they be put back into production as ToW units. Also they should be skirmishers.
>>97770798i was gonna kinda just make it up based on this (which i know is sigmar's comet AND dracothion) and then print some bits maybe. i guess mostly im asking about /mydudes/-ing it maybe add some general dragon iconography, dunno
>>97770749dracothion was instrumental in their arrival to the realm and one of the major fleets of seraphon follows dracothion and has a strong connection with himthey don't really pay homage this way to other dragons, dracothion is special, other dragons may be considered allies by association, if anythingthe seraphon born under the influence of dracothion have golden patterns on their scales, are particularly infused with azyr energy, and are eerily coordinated as it they were in telepathic communion the first battletome went as far as saying that some of the banners the lizards carry are icons to dracothionthe latest seraphon novel has a part where our protagonists' party (3 lizards, one stormcast and a human) reach a pair of chambers inside a crashed temple ship, the first is a shrine to an old one, the second is a shrine to sotek, or at least the skinks say it is, while the stormcast and human are taken aback by the statue because, to them, it looks like dracothionThe book is shy about resolving this difference in the characters' points of view so we're left with many questions and many possibilities on the matter, but what's without question is that it is definitely a precedent for you to use the imagery of the statue on your lizardsThe statue was described as a snake, but with leathery wings, what may or may not have been stubby horns (the statue was partially ruined) on its head, and multiple arms each wielding a weapon or a lightning bolt
>>97770882wait there's a new seraphon book? fucking finally! what's it called?and ah, i thought it was all dragons in general since they're dracothion's "kids" kinda sorta. this is actually great info to know, thank you man.
>>97770889https://gofile.io/d/Tnx0Mz
>>97770832>Also they should be skirmishersThey should be alternative sculpts for ogres
>>97770933yoo fucking GOATED anon, thank you
Reminder to buy multiple Cogforts because the model will surely not make the jump to the new setting if rumors are to be believed. The sooner you buy the longer you have to play with the cogforts so buy ASAP and buy multiple (they will become collector pieces)
>>97771006I hope they look cool, I got plans...
>>97771006leakers already confirmed it's staying
>>97771006>"buy multiple of this huge model that may or may not be coming out right before a new edition that would make the most sense to announce it for"anon i hope this is a shitpost
All Fantasy needed was cute Chinese girls in the end.I don't understand why GW doesn't just add cute Chinese girls to AoS instead of balling the realms up into one planet and end timesing it.
>>97771022Buy them now or buy them in 2 years on ebay for triple the price. The choice is yours.
>>97771031ok anon where do i buy, you sold me on it.
What's the funniest cogfort design failure they could go with flavor wise? What would be the cogfort equivalent of the Great Gatsby Chorfs?
Place your bets now. Will GW try to scrub the stream comments about End Times 2.0 or will they simply ignore the chat?
>>97771027According to the leaks GW balled up the AoS to give it chinese, japanese, and french.
Doomfire Warlocks have been sent to Legends. It appears that Dark Elves are indeed returning to TOW.https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_25-03_aos_otherrules_daughters_of_khaine_supplement-8ebcytpnh5-7chp80ejn3.pdf
>>97771027>end timesThe ET didn't continue the setting, it scrapped it. TOW is set in the alternate past of WHF for a reason
>>97771055I can't articulate the details of it well but I find everything about this teaser deeply unpleasant to look at. If it's like this, it will suck ass to me.
>>97771055https://youtu.be/i2TWdbcJp8s
>>97771068My guess is they'll scrub the chat.
>>97770949>delf tranny desists transition and becomes an Ogor Stormcast chad beautiful timeline
>>97771080Oh also I really don't like the fancy intricate wrought iron decorations on CoS shields, so if those are all over it I'll be pissed
>>97771079I like how the only difference that makes it so TOW isn't set up to explode like Fantasy, is that in that version of events Sigmar left the empire to go live with his waifu Miao until he passed away.
>>97771068>>97771086I think they will try to scrub the chat at first, then give up due to the sheer volume. Unless they can somehow script chat banning anyone who says certain keywords
>>97771079>>97771097tow isn't an alternate timeline that's magically not going to have the end times
>>97771086The fact people post so much WHFB fan art in this thread is a great example of why The Last World is happening in the first place.
>>97771097>instead of fathering Archie and thus giving chaos its strongest warrior he instead has a just as edgy happa kid who just posts southlander penis pictographs on brettonian bulletin boards
>>97770868Yeah that could be really cool. You could go the extra mile and do it in pseudo-mesoamerican style, like a blocky feathered serpent coiling around a sun? Sounds really cool man, if you ever get around to it I'd like very much to see the result.
>>97771104Down the line I am 99% sure they will just retcon the End Times into being that yes Chaos won but the world wasn't destroyed and the Mortal Realms never existed. If they are rebooting to make more sense to non AoS fans, the Mortal Realms only weaken the narrative and become unnecessary when you could just have the narrative be The Old World into End Times into The Last World.
>>97771106Maybe the novels shouldn't suck and read like they were written by an AI trained to shoehorn trademarks every other word.
>>97771106>whfb fan artIt's total war fan art, let's be real here
>>97771104Cathay Gods Infinite Steam Tanks Sigmar is reborn (as a woman like Mordheim original plans)The Everchosen is getting stomped soon and it will be full noblebright while AoS shifts to mudcore grimdark
>>97771119>Down the line I am 99% sure they will just retcon the End Times into being that yes Chaos won but the world wasn't destroyed and the Mortal Realms never existed.I'm shocked they didn't just do that instead of the stupid old world junk
>>97771128That just reinforces the point; GW wants AoS to have games and settings so beloved even non-tabletop stuff gets a shit-ton of fan art.>>97771122SEXUAL ELF
Should I get the khaine battleforce just for morathi? Im thinking I might be able to use the other models for deldar or something.
>>97769158>>97769440Why is Warmachine so high? Is it that good?
>>97771080looks like a fantasy flame thrower
>>97771209Can and has been done in a less ugly way.
>AoS Sigmar>sitting on his throne, waiting to get dabbed on by Diederick>TOW Sigmar>buried in Cathay after a lifetime between Miao Ying's thighs and watches over his people from Chinese heavenThe real lesson we can learn from this is GW can't write a plot worth anything. >>97771172Do you like the figures? Ignore the rules and also fluff, GW makes and changes that shit up on a whim anyways. Do you want to paint half-naked elf women?
>>97771174It's having a bit of a resurgence at the moment, I think under new ownership or something? I'm not entirely sure, but good for them.
>>97769774So ghyran are bretonnian coded worshipping elven gods...FFS...
Maybe you dont like it but this is what peak CoS looks like
>>97771252I hate the shape motifs. It makes it seem like every piece of armor, clothing, and weaponry was designed by the same person in-universe who is autistically fixated on diamond shapes.
>>97771252Which Dragon Age game is this?
>>97771086>>>97771122i love jerking my insensate cock to daughters of khaine and morathi so much bros, it really helps me get off after i started estrogen! i giggle every time i post a smug morathi or blood hag image! no, i cant post my models they're all covered in LAYERS OF CUM, dont ask!oh my god i fucking love generic elves in bikinis so much oh my god im gonna fucking CUM ohhhhhhhhhi still cant BELIEVE GW HAD THE GALL TO MAKE THEM WEAR MORE CLOTHES
>>97771077Thank fucking Christ. Not that I wouldn't have been happy with a new Dark Elf range in Age of Sigmar but I'm just tired of my favorite fantasy army being in limbo between the two systems.
>>97771311>i still cant BELIEVE GW HAD THE GALL TO MAKE THEM WEAR MORE CLOTHESI know, it's a a complete betrayal.
>>97771213>Do you like the figures? Ignore the rules and also fluff, GW makes and changes that shit up on a whim anyways. Do you want to paint half-naked elf women?Yeah theyre kinda cool. I always wanted the big snake lady but never found the chance for her. I already kinda do though theyre not really half-naked.
>>97771077good. clean all the cities, fuck dwarfs, fuck dark elves, fuck wood elves, fuck sylvaneth and fuck stormcasts.cities are for humans.
>>97771068I wonder how Adam and Eddie will handle it, even at the best of times they're unprofessional and struggle to handle chat
>>97770758rank and flank isnt even worth considering unless its 10mm.
>>97771382why is the text hidden by the picture.
>>97769052The reboot is just the start. GW will slowly retcon every lore aspect of AoS until its essentially:>Chaos won in the End Times>Magic fuckery happened>Mallus eventually came back, but damaged by Chaos>Factions and locations are mostly identical to ToW, with name changes.
>>97771416It is quite silly, the Mortal Realms were different enough that the End Times were still end times because the world (Mallus) ended.But if we get psuedo-WHFB world then it didn't really end, did it?
To be honest that Boole guy seems to have sperged out for little reason. Logically this seems much more like the 40k gathering storm style shake up than the wfb end times. Obviously could be wrong but as someone that doesnt play AOS i actually could get into it if what their saying about the 1 world thing is true.
that one rumor about krethusa joining Morathi seems to be bogus thankfully, shes still very much defiant of her. Nice to see the schizim live on there.
>>97771434???? What the hell is so attractive to tuis kind of subhumans? Just the official connection between ToW and AoS? The Realms (a good cosmology system) merging into a simpler and less complex planet or just the fact they are making a big lore event that will change some things lorewise?
>>97771434The only setting AoS has was the realms and the various whacky elements related to it. They could keep it intact for one world but it's up in the air if they willDawnbringer Crusades Aqua Ghyranis RealmstoneFree Cities as strongholds of migrant settlers I don't think it's a big deal, it's like Primarchs returning, but it also may upend the very little identity AoS has for good or ill.
>>97771426>But if we get psuedo-WHFB world then it didn't really end, did it?Yes that's the idea. GW probably realizes that the Fantasy world simply has wider appeal than the Mortal Realms ever did. They will do it gradually but I agree with that other guy that this is the most likely path forward.
>>97771434>as someone that doesnt play AOS i actually could get into it if what their saying about the 1 world thing is trueThis is exactly why they are doing it, you are not the first person to echo this sentiment. AoS as a setting was tried for a decade, it never caught on and kept turning people off, so they are changing the setting to be more like Fantasy.
i like how /wfg/ is shitpostless meanwhile they come and ruin our thread
>>97771509It'll get better in like 5 and a half hours.
maybe this is hard to heard but a single planet makes more sense than a bunch of weird discoworlds without any logic explanation...
>>97771509The shitposters aren't coming from /wfg/ but from the distant /twg/
>>97771523Didn't this happen last time there was some fucking announcement for total war? Admitedly it was for 40k so they probably got the shaft that time.
hopefully some TOW news at adepticon will settle them down
Soon
>>97771501>kept turning people offIt ended up in the top 5 best selling miniature games in all but two years of its existence. The sales are there, the only thing lacking for AoS was free talent to poach for GWs retarded disney plus thing.
>>97771543Daughters of Khaine are the best army in this game.
>>97771501I think people here forget that the realms in forst edition actually were near impossible to understand. I remember reading somwhere that chamon sub-realms are actually organized into different blobs etc like an alchemical substance. If thats the origin of the setting, then you cannot say "its just 8 worlds in the shape of discs". Not to mention what happens in a single realm almost never really had impact on the other realms with the excption of massive events like the necroquake and whatever the skaven are up to now. I will say second edition was going in the right direction, and if they continued with that the realms would be kept.
>>97771541It’s not on the docket for reveals. That plus the Boole shit has got their brains REALLY swollen.
>>97771544You keep referencing a survey that surveys an unknown number of stores in the US. We had like a month ago an interview with the largest mainland European FLGS chain, account for 1/50 of ALL GW global revenue, stating that AoS has been struggling since TOW returned. Their numbers are at least objective and not hidden like the ICV2.
>>97771246always have been
The lack of Cathayan women into Empire men doomed AoS, this is the reason the setting is being squatted to be a continuation of WHFB
I kinda like that we get this huge change of the setting and continuation/evolution of the lore.These last 11 years are gonna be like a new "Age of Myth" in a way, but we as players got to live through it and when stuff in the new lore in a few years reference things from "the age of sigmar" or whatever they will call the setting with the mortal realms as myths and legends some of us will remember when it actually happened, played in it even.I think that in a way its the next step in a truly living setting, allowing the players to live through the myth and history of the world.
>>97771582Look as long as Nagash gets to keep doing shit I'll be happy. And Archaon gets hot fixed out of reality for being the lamest character ever.
>>97771595Archaon will be replaced by Abraxa because she is a strong independent woman of colour who will kill the evil white male Sigmar
>Kills your favourite setting>TwiceProblem?
>>97771566>struggling since ToW returnedYou can keep parroting this shit as a Bible, anon, but you will never make it true lmao.ToW is a side product and not even with a discret sales from those shitty Cathay models ToW made it close to AoS.
>TGA total melty>Reddit in complete delusional denial>/aosg/ with moderated hopeful reactionsWhy are we so much better than those communities?
>>97771566https://www.statista.com/statistics/994065/games-workshop-sales-worldwide-region/North America makes up to twice what mainland Europe does for GW. So yes a smattering of US stores is more relevant.
>>97771606what should happen for this guy to die? not dissapear, not get a humiliating defeat, die, like take his soul and vanish it into the void or let it be consumed by the big 4
>>97771615I am telling you what the owner of the largest FLGS chain in Europe said. If you wish to believe a survey that invalidates itself by not even listing the number of participants surveyed...go ahead. Just remember you believed the same thing a week ago before we learned GW was squatting AoS as a setting.
>>97771566Can you link the interview?
imagine if you were a random human in a city of sigmar and met a skink at the local seraphon embassy... and talked him into going for drinks with you haha
>>97771616Because we are not building our entire identity on being aos players.
>>97771617>North America makes up to twice what mainland Europe does for GW. So yes a smattering of US stores is more relevant.That chain is responsible for 1/50 of GLOBAL GW revenue. >>97771626https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2qTXBuEoJQ
>>97771625>GW was squatting AoS as a setting.And again you keep parroting stupid bullshit as a Bible trying to fit some sort of doomer narrative, let me tell you a secret, AoS will keep staying here, alive and more successful than Fantasy ever was, a change in the setting is in no way a squat, faggot.
>>97771644It's pointless anon, he didn't come here to discuss but to shitpost.
>>97771616our degrees of shitposting allows us to digest and vent stuff much much fastertrolling is a physiological process
how much time until reveals? at least that will contain the shitposting a little...
>>97771644>a change in the setting is in no way a squatI mean, getting rid of the Mortal Realms is absolutely squatting them anon.Nobody said that because some elements of WHFB lore were retained (like the realm names matching WHFB winds of magic) that the old setting wasn't squatted.They're both squattings.
>>977716705hrs 12 minutes.
>>97771670There's no Votann reveals this time to draw attention away from AoS reveals. And the odds the Cogfort looks really good like the Nurgle stuff did is very very low. So don't expect a drop in shitposting.
>>97771644>a change in the setting is in no way a squatso WHFB still continues, since it was just a change in the setting, right? :^)
>>97771603I wouldn't mind that, Abraxia isn't a super powered entity who single handedly destroys universes but somehow isn't classified as a god so uh, sure why not.
>>97771643I'll try and put this in a way you can understand. 1/50 of global revenue, so in 2024, about 10b GBP.North America made up almost 217b GBP, is 24/50 of global revenue.
>>97771700Getting accurate data from 1/50th of sales is more useful than 24/50th of unknown accuracy.
>>97771246>Pocket dimension theories >Order of the Furrow Keep up, retard
>>97771677it's 20:54 in my Easter Euro ShitholeShoud I pull an all nighter or not bother?
>>97771252But I do like it
>>97771700>>97771717This. You don't seem to realize how hard not listing the number of surveyed stores matters. This is the first step in academic admissibility. You'd be laughed out of even Indian degree mills without it.
>>97771606Why is she a dwarf?
>>97771252I do like cities! they have whimsy and a certain charm to em you'd see in a cartoon, I dont mean that negatively mind you. Alas they are still a bit too overdetailed for me to personally acquire them. And anything that doesn't resemble fromsoft is scorned by the gw audience.
>>97771616I get the feeling that a lot of people here aren't actually all that attached to the realms — outside of attack/defense of AoS's setting being synecdoche for attack/defense of AoS as a game — especially now that there are no rules or bonuses for having an army from them.
>>97771700>>97771717>>97771730I would go a step further and argue that them not listing the number of surveyed stores is a massive red flag that the number is not very high. If they were surveying hundreds of shops they would use that in their advertising as this is information you can only technically access if you pay them. Them not listing their methodology suggests that its a number that would hurt them if they went public with it (as they should)
>>97771725Take a nap. You have time. Also consider what tomorrow looks like for you in terms of priorities.
we're arguing about numbers again, great
>>97771730But if we are to believe the end times rumor, we also have to believe the part in it where the leaker, as a self proclaimed non-AoS fan, said the game is a success to his dismay, and thats what makes the idea so foreign to him. Why do this to something that sells?My own thoughts on that is that while the tabletop does fairly well, with GW seeing how much money there is to be made from an IP if it gets picked up by competent studios, they feel they need to make AoS easier to adapt for games and shows.I would not even be surprised if the new lore and characters are made explicitly to be "easy" to adapt to a show or something.
>>97771763>I would go a step further and argue that them not listing the number of surveyed stores is a massive red flag that the number is not very highits a bit of a shame that needs to be said
>>97771773>we
>>97771699Also to be everchosen, abraxia would have to win slaanesh/s favor somehow...
>>97771252Im excited about the separation between a technological current of CoS and a more religious one.Inquisition of Sigmar finally becoming a thing and Cogforts open a whole Steampunk universe.
I for one just hope we get angels of death for night haunt.
>>97771796I dunno, just be really good at like stabbing people. Archaon somehow managed to make slaanesh happy and he's the most sexless mother fucker in existence.
>>97771763Yeah, if they had like... 500 stores they'd be bragging about it. "We surveyed 500 stores and this is what sells best" is a very convincing sales pitch.The actual answer is unironically probably 20 or something.
>>97771807>somehowArchaon is very pretty
>>97771566>this survey of multiple stores is inaccurate, you should listen to this one (1) store insteadDo you even hear what you're saying anonAlso 1/50th of gw revenue lmao. No you retard, like we tried to tell you last time they're not a warhammer store, they're a boardgame store that also sells warhammer, their profit isn't solely warhammer based so your numbers don't work. Walmart happens to sell some 40k merch, do they suddenly account for 20 000% of gw's profit? Genius.
>>97771824Listen I like smut as much as the next guy but Archaon's a gross bald freak missing an eye
>>97771800lets be real, nighthaunt, gitz, dok, fec, ko, idk, warclans and ossiarch should all dissapear.
>>97770382>Land of the Chained SunThis is the most blatantly retarded thing I've ever seen to the point where it almost comes back around to being somewhat cool. Almost.
>>97771834Listen you can shit talk whatever you want but I will NOT have anyone touching Big Ush and the gang.
>>97771828>Do you even hear what you're saying anonOkay, well I just made my 7 kids take surveys of many many stores in NA, and they told me that its actually a Infinity SWEEEEEEEEEEEEP and they sell more than any other system.No I will not reveal how many stores we surveyed, grow up.
>almost 2000 points for like $400embracing femdom looking more appealing.
>>97771828I think the better indication that aos isnt doing well is the setting is being squatted.
>>97771828>they're a boardgame store that also sells warhammer, their profit isn't solely warhammer based so your numbers don't workHe literally says word for word that they calculated it and they are responsible for 1/50 of all of GW global revenue. Not all their brands, but Warhammer specifically. Watch the video if you don't believe me.
>>97771852I’m still surprised they put a god model for a battleforce. I’d jump on an everqueen battleforce.
>>97771824The lack of attractive women in Chaos is a serious issue i see.
>>97771252When will more armies get command squads like this? I love squads of important guys.
>>97771852Malerion will put some order in this faction.
This is how The Last World will start
>>97771864Technically obr already has one. I expect sbgl to get something similar for lahmians.
>>97769052Who's at fault here?>GW for giving up on their setting>GW for making a setting thats hard to wrap your head around>The fans for not buying enough>Video Game developers for not making AoS games>Creative Assembly for bringing back WHFB into popularity
>>97771880Objectively, the last point
>>97771852Why have a statue of Khaine when Khaine is dead?
>>97771853You mean according to the rumour that says this comes as surprise because it's actually selling well, unlike warhammer fantasy? That rumour?
>>97771880The casuals and retards for being too stupid to understand Realms, so they have to make AoS Last World connect it with ToW and simplify everything.
>>97771889Because Morathi must keep the illusion she is not in charge but the Khaine dude.
And Wood Elves made of flesh and not wood will still be irrelevant, no matter the merging, just as they are in ToW.
>>97771880The whole situation is hilarious>GW panics and rush squats WHFB>replaces it with rushed bad AoS 1.0>gives WHFB to TW developers (obvious home run)>TW:WHFB becomes the most popular GW video game of all time>makes GW think there is a market for TOW>TOW returns>sells better than expected>GW panics and decides to squat AoS to make it more like WHFB (as a setting)Comical how retarded and short sighted GW are.
>>97771723>>97771571And you don't find making not bretonnia and not empires as the human factions a stupid thing?The 2nd edition cities of sigmar were better.
>>97771834there's too much fearmongering over factions getting squatted I don't really think than any faction other than fyreslayers and maybe Idoneth will disappear
>>97771898The problem with is that the scale is hard to relate to. 40k gets away with it because we feel like we can more or less conceptualise it, being that it's the Milky Way.People hear "effectively infinite, at least as far as normal humans are concerned - oh, and there are 8 of them, plus some smaller minor ones" and think "ah, so there's basically no stakes, the Good Guys can lose a million times and it won't really matter" (SCE auto-res compounds this).Or, worse, they think "so kinda like DnD?"
>>97771880Its a combination of the last two.Whilst the tabletop AoS is doing pretty good, as the leaks themselves are pointing out, I think GW has seen what kind of money an IP can bring if it gets adapted well in digital formats.As such, they need to make AoS easier and more attractive to adapt for game developers and film studios.And they need to try -something- to ease the vitriol against the setting a developer sees when they would google it.This something is two-fold; 1) Symbolicly "Kill" AoS so that the hurt fans from wfb may finally just move on with a sense of victoryor vindication. Some may even choose to invest in AoS models if they've been curious before but held back by principle.2) Negating two of the main points used against AoS by people who dont like it, the lack of proper maps and the lack of proper stakes.Creating a mapped out world, putting factions at certain places is the main part. But also doing away with the stormcast immortality will aid in this and removing some ammo from the haters.This wont fix all of the problems associated with it of course, but I think its a fairly smart way for GW to try and do it, from a busniess standpoint.
>>97771834>Nighthaunt>Flesh Eater Courts>Kharadron Overlord>Daughters of Khaine>Gloomspite GitzThis must be, without a doubt, the worst post on this general.
>>97771927Idk anon I just like ghyran.
>>97771957>40k gets away with itIt doesn’t.
>>97771959>1) Symbolicly "Kill" AoS so that the hurt fans from wfb may finally just move on with a sense of victoryor vindication. Some may even choose to invest in AoS models if they've been curious before but held back by principle.They'll be autistically mad that GW killed the setting that "killed" WFB making the loss of WFB entirely meaningless.
>>97771973Some, maybe a majority, sure.But there will be less haters after im sure.
>>97771800what was even the original version of this
>>97771973This. Grogs just never learn, they feel the physiological need to hate this setting out of pure bitterness.
>>97771862The new Sylv battleforce + a spearhead is also absurd at 1950 points. Assuming $127.50 and like $225ish.
>>97771978I feel like they won't, I feel like the people who hate AOS will continue to hate any content that isn't just directly called "Warhammer Fantasy" and continue not buying old world models because it doesn't have shit they saw in the vidya games.>>97771988If they're still angry about something that happened like more than a decade ago I can't imagine them being happy with anything ever.
>>97771898>The casuals and retards for being too stupid to understand Realms>ToW
>>97771957>>97771969The thing I actually liked about the Mortal Realms was that they gave the AoS setting a sense of cosmic scale and greatness on par with 40kThe comparison between the two settings always made it feel like the stakes were so much higher in 40k because it covers an entire galaxy rather than a single planet
>>97771854>Watch the video if you don't believe meNta but I shan't. Timestamp that shit or buy an ad.
>>97771571I like the figures in the box but not enough to pay for the full thing since I'm never fucking playing it.
>>97771959Actually sounds like a reasonable assumption
>>97771852>already have all of theseI don't even play this game.
>>97772000What causes the The of World phenomenon anyway? Are people so conditioned by the thousands of abbreviations in the style of "x of y" that they just assume any three letter ab reviation with an o in the middle must have that o in lower case? I always found it funny.
>>97771919The situation reminds me of World War 2.>The End Times was the Blitzkrieg>Years of AoS lore was Nazi occupation of Europe>Creative Assembly making TTW was America joining the war>The Last World Announcement is D-day>AoS 5th edition will be the liberation of Europe>Future editions will remove the AoS taint from TLW like denazificationYou could make a movie out of this.
>>97771998>I can't imagine them being happy with anything ever.That’s the truth about grogs. The sooner everyone realizes this, the better. They don’t miss the old thing, they miss being younger. And who doesn’t? But throwing tantrums 10 years after a perceived slight helps no one and only makes them look pathetic.
>>97771969It does, though. People complain about fucked numbers, but rarely do people say "the galaxy is too big to conceptualise as a setting". It does come up, but there's a good and obvious answer to that (i.e. "yes, it is. Not our fault").>>97772006I do sort of get that. I liked the may as well be infinite scale because I like having tonnes of room for Your Guys.Related to both your comments, I'm open to TLW because it would mean taking AoS in a different direction than 40k. Not just in scale, but in things like "Sigmar is probably dead, but the other gods are just MIA" while in 40k has gone from "is the Emperor a god? a man? a corpse?" to "The Emperor DROPKICKS NURGLE IN THE FACE then SUPPLEXES HIM through SHITWORLD".
>>97771988This reads as if written by someone who play neither age of sigmar not fantasy battle.Is this the Ai turn in your ttw game?
>>97771754Then you point out that AoS already has mapped out worlds and people find different excuse since it's not actually about the world being mapped out. The issues people have with AoS are just a front, as same people never have issues with other media that has exact same elements. Man, everything I like about AoS is slowly being killed off since 3rd edition and I am being left here wondering what is ever left for me to like? CoS was my favorite part of AoS and it's about to reach a point of being entirely unrecognizable from its inception (that I dearly loved.) Stormcast being fine-sculpted valhallan warriors who slowly lose themselves every time they revive is interesting and that's being lost for unironic sigmarines memes. The only positives I've seen have been related to Sylvaneth and Undead, both of which been getting releases and lore that I care about (and even skeleton-only army thing is slowly becoming a thing again)... everything else though.
>>97772043And in the end, decades away, when its too late, people will understand that AoS was the good setting all along?
>>97772043WTF i just read?
>>97772043Archaon = Stalin?
>>97772057whats wrong with CoS?
>>97772055Struck a nerve right, grog?
>>97772071I was thinking more like Hitler but Stalin fits much better now that I think about it
The fact you guys legitimately think AoS csn survive a reboot is adorable. Your models are going to be ornate paperweights within two years.
>>97772074It's just becoming a notEmpire instead of this hodge-podge of races banding together. And I do like the human releases we received, it was a great step forward with beautiful models... but come to find out it's the only step forward outside of halflings and giants.
>>97772050Sigmar will 100% become the Emperor 2.0 (dead but not really) and a new Deus ex Machina for the good guys.
>>97772088Which is a better place than where Total War Warhammer 3 will be in the same timeframe, secondary
>97772088bait used to have some sense...
>>97772097Except people will still be playing that, retard. It's funnt TWW is getting the End Times DLC around the time AoS is getrinf End Times'd itself.
Rob the Dushonest Wargamer >my sources told me this btw >guys, it could be wrong! We don't know anything
>>97772049>They don’t miss the old thing, they miss being youngerTrvth nvke
I like how Miao is just TOW Morathi in the sense she has a fair and monstrous form she can swap between(Morathi used to be able to back in like 2nd edition) and is beloved by mortal men.However, unlike Morathi, Miao actually puts out and has a ton of children. Maybe Morathi should as well, like she used to in Fantasy, and then we can have literal daughters of Morathi-Khaine in the game. Maybe I'll convert some blood hags and have that be their fluff.
>>97772043I wish denazification was actually a thing and they didn't just put them back into positions of power.
>>97772122Malekith doesn't want to fuck her anymore though.
>>97771853I'd argue the announced AoS exclusive magazine and the shareholder reports listing an effort to make an AoS tv episode are more of a commitment to keeping AoS around than a leaked setting change (that explicitly mentioned no squatting) is a confirmation of the games death.
>>97772139What if the episode end up being the breaching of Azyr, the battle between Archaon and Sigmar, the latters death and ends with a shot of the realms merging.
>>97772114"My souces told me this" but then also doesn't want to mention any of this beforehand. Like yeah sure dude, I'm sure you've known about this leak years in advance.
The new Sylvaneth rules look pretty good. Not having to buy three boxes of wyldwoods is honestly pretty huge for getting into the army.
>>97772156As long as it looks cool, it'll be a huge push for the game. The whole idea of Last World seems, to me, an attempt to make the fact that AoS is a post-apocalyptic setting more apparent. Maybe GW shareholders saw the fallout show and wanted their own, but 40k has giant mecha and space ships that would bloat the budget more than one stormcast, his mystery meat girl companion, and some mad max reject chaos guys.
>>97771927just because we call it not!bretonnia doesn't mean it's going to be actually bretonnia beyond a vague surface elements people consider lumineth not!high elves and ossiarchs not!tomb kings too
Noblebright>Grimdark
>>97772193which is why you are in a warhammer thread and not in a... what noblebright settings are there?
>>97772196Only Warhammer 40K is grimdark. Neither AoS nor WHFB was grimdark.
>>97772196aos is or at least used to be noblebright, shitter.
>>97772193Nobledark> Noblebright>GrimdarkPeople hate the real world currently, they want stories of people overcoming the shittyness of the world.
>>97772158Aren't they doubling down on them since they're how you generate your new thingy points, and they spread their aura?
>>97771467Don't care about connection to ToW. I just prefer a more grounded idea of it all taking place on one planet (yes i know its fantasy), i don't think "realms" is any more complex an idea but the implementation of it just seems abit well lame to me, "this is the fire realm where fire stuff happens" which they then seemed to backtrack on and be like well yea its mostly fire stuff but also normal stuff happens here but with some firey things. Repeat the same for light, death, life bla bla, i'm exagerating here but you get my meaning, you might tell me im wrong and i probably am but at a glance when AoS first came out thats how it appeared and its hard to shake that impression and make me want to invest more into learning it even if thats been long ago changed. I don't really care either way, i have plenty AoS models for many factions, its strongest point has always been cool models so i'm not bothered what they do with the lore, i can only like it better than what it currently is. This isn't a personal attack if you like the realms thing, i can understand i put in 0 effort to understand the story because the high fantasy vibe of it doesn't appeal to me and i fully appreciate if it is your vibe it would be disappointing for it to be changing. Just explaining why this appeals to me more, it just seems more grounded and somehow believable and interesting for all the factions to be trapped together on the one relatively small location.
>>97772221Launch:>fucking apocalypse - End Times 2.0 >Get reforged once and you're fucked with a flaw 2nd edition:>Death wins, necroquake is fucking everything up>Reforging is worse: lightning gheists >Anvilgard genocide >Settler's Gain mindbreak prison 3rd Edition>potato sacks have to settle the apocalyptic terrain - here's a campaign series about two, both end horribly 4th Edition >Skaven blow up half the setting >barag nar genocide >Reforging is so bad we just kill Stormcast before it happens When was it noblebright?
>>97772254Weren't one of the expeditions teased to end with one a success and the other a tragedy, which was the hook to keep you reading? I've kinda stopped paying attention around that time.
>>97772206you have an odd definition of grimdark then remember that time good natured beastmen were kicked out of a free city, pledged to tzeentch and horribly mutated everyone in vengeance?remember that time the ghost of an evil moon haunted the skies of the world and seers were burned at the stake instead of listened about the incoming doom?remember that time lizardmen uplifted the most advanced civilization of the realm, which would construct magical weapons of mass destruction and then be demolished by the fist of khorne himself for the affront, all so the lizards could scavenge the ruins grab the prototype lens of said weapon and build a telescope because they couldn't bother crafting it themselves?remember that short story about a stormcast getting his traumatic experiences, mourning for his family, and very personality and ability to dissent literally painfully beaten out of him with hammers so he could be reforged as an unquestioning soldier?remember how a major faction of the setting goes around collecting tithes of bone from the living populations? expecting them to kill each other or chop off their limbs to meet the quota?remember that faction where the vast majority of the population is half-soulled abominations that raid the coastal villages of allied nations to steal souls and wipe minds?member the mortuary factory?member skulpile?
>>97772254because there isnt a decaying, fashistic givernment that's the only hope left for humanity with a dead leader-turned-absent-god that they all worship after said leader's sons all died or turned superevil and burnt half the empireraces are still willing to widely co-operate usually to fight back against the other forces of eviletc etc, read more or leave, TOW/TWWH secondary
>>97772139Cope however you want. No Sigmar and No Mortal Realms means it isn't AoS. It's a new setting. It's like saying WHFB was continued with AoS and not squatted.
>>97772269Dark elements existing does not make something grimdark, nor stops something from being about noble and bright setting inspite of great darkness surrounding it.
>>97772246The big thing is that each tree counts as a wyldwood, its no longer the three trees in a circle. So players only need to purchase the one box of trees now.
Wait a minute, according to the leaks Archaeon kills Nagash, Gorkamorka, Teclis, Tyrion, Morathi, Malekith/Malerion, and Allarielle too.What the fuck.
>>97772254Grimdark as a phrase getting popularized had this side effect where it shifted from its original more specific definition to become a broad catchall term for "dark" settings but that aren't actually grimdark, prime example being asoiaf. Weirdly "noblebright" has had an inverse change where it's just applied to everything that is not grimdark in its original sense.Aos is peak nobledark. Shitty world but there are "heroes" fighting against this, who actually have a chance, and are actually virtuous and aren't just heroes by virtue of fighting against the somehow even eviler antagonists like in 40k.
>>97772288You're arguing 40k isn't grimdark either then. The setting isn't noblebright because the protagonists are dressed in gold.The setting isn't noblebright because there's a widespread sense of hope and whimsy, because there isn't.
>>97772296no, that part is boole reaching for something retardedwhat he's saying is that the story he's read doesn't mention any of them
>>97772296Archadon just can't stop winning. Meanwhile Yabaddon took 10.000 years to blow up a planet, and now is stuck again.
>>97772299Modern day 40k is not, but that's besides the point. Something bring grimdark is a general presentation, not isolated events that are dark.
>>97772290Oh that's much better yeah
>>97772306Chaos is still pissed off that they never get Sanguinius.
>>97772308>Modern day 40k is notmodern day 40k is not particularly different in tone from older 40k, you're being gaslit by lower quality artworks and tertiaries thinking that the presence of a pair of slightly taller marines changes everything
>>97772318Should have realm-gate'd Arachaon into 40k then, armatures.
>>97772304>matter so little they are killed off screen Sad!
>>97772299Nta but there's more than just grimdark and noblebright anon. It's not a dichotomy. They're both ends of a spectrum. Aos is grimbright or nobledark (damn those sound retarded), whichever has a shitty world with noble heroes. 40k's heroes are still massive space genociders, making things grimdark.
>>97772306Kastner is what he always feared to be: a slave. A slave to darkness if you would. All he has left is lashing out at others to cope with failing at his own autonomy.
>>97772308>Something bring grimdark is a general presentationLike a universe born out of the apocalypse where evil triumphed and then returned to consume this new reality as well?Where the mythological alliance of gods is strained by petty differences and grim necessities?Where there's a new major near-apocalyptic event other pair of centuries including a spell that almost killed everyone in the universe, the return of a primordial god of destruction, and the god of desperation annihilating one third of the most important continent of one of the most important realms?A setting about a desperate war that the forces of order are barely prepared for and capable of holding for long, about trying to establish dots of light in a sea of wildernesses completely inimical to conventional life, or areas dominated by demons? A setting where amongst the most stalwart allies of the forces of good are the bloodthirsty cult of the god of murder?
You will never be a real Warhammer setting. You're not grimdark, you have no cool original characters, you have no interesting locations. You are an IP twisted by Corporate interference and focus-grouped into a crude mockery of Warhammer's perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. GW are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “fans” laugh at your dogshit lore behind closed doors.Players are utterly repulsed by you. Decades of evolution in Tabletop Gaming have allowed players to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even lorebits that are “liked” are leftovers from WHFB. The origins of all your major characters are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a player to buy your models, he’ll never be interested in your lore or setting. Only in your models that they'l primarily use for homebrewYou will never be successful. You wrench out fake sale figures every single year and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the end creeping up like a weed, ready to finsh you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - your setting will collapse into itself and revert back to Warhammer fantasy. GW will rejoice that they have a good fantasy setting again. They’ll slowly retcon all your lore and your legacy until AoS is just a blip in the history of WHFB. Your lore will be forgotten and discarded.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>97772340The idea is that they're not actually killed at all, anon.The other leaker confirmed that boole was making the wrong assumption on that part, only sigmar dies.
>>97772372Cute salad dressing, but again it's about presentation. You can have all that without being grimdark.
>>97772403>It's noblebright because the guys are gold!
>>97772415Correct, next question.
>>97772423Based
>>97772423Melusai, elf, or Khinerai?
AoS is part of a multiverse but it's not made clear because GW doesn't want their IPs to be a single entity. The Warp connects them all like the Dark Tower from Stephen King holding all the multiverses together. Kaldor Draigo crossed into the old world during the end times, Black Library novels implied Chaos has influence across dimensions and alternate realities, Liber Chaotica mentioned Chaos Space Marines and their weapons.
>>97772374Based as fuck?
>>97772447>Kaldor Draigo crossed into the old world during the end timesI think they retconned that into being a stormcast.
>>97772447The Soul Grinder is the key to all of this
Well, that's one rumour down before the show even starts.Some people thought this was CoS but it always struck me as sororitas , looks like that turned out to be true.
>>97772334ehhhhhh no the tone of 40k now is very different then the tone of 40k pre 8th. 3rd - 7th very much emphisised an empire in decay and a stagnation of the universe into a constant state of war, with no real hope other then minor victories.8th 40k with the return of Girly man and the other primarchs has become a setting in motion.See before 8th ed, 40k was a setting in which events took place. 8th+ 40k became a narrative that is moving forward.
>the presentation is noblebright I swear!
>>97772415If those guys are THE crux faction of AoS, then yeah, it's not grimdark. They are literal demigods that live in some astral heaven. I mean - is World of Warcraft grimdark? Is DC Asgard grimdark? Those guys are clear rip-off.
>>97772469>has become a setting in motion.no, it hasn't, the imperium is still in stagnation, if anything it's only getting worsethe things moving forward is one clusterfuck happening after another, nonstop, forever
>>97772447I think that is old lore that GW has moved away from. In the past yes, the warp linked 40k and Fantasy, this is because 40k orignianlly started off as kind of a meme about what if we did fantasy....but in space! and then it took off.Anymore im pretty sure the realms are fully separated. Because in Age of Shitmar, slaanesh went MIA for a long while there, but that never happened in 40k.
>>97772479>They are literal demigods that live in some astral heaven.
>>97772447The Vengeful Spirit was partly in Praag in the Old World during the raid of the Emperor
>>97772488>im pretty sure the realms are fully separatedYou're wrong, we have a character from aos crossing over to 40k and multiple mentions of the settings being connected
>>97772509for AoS and 40k? We have? WHere? Im not asking like a gottem show me your proof im genuinely asking where this happened i loved this shit in fantasy.
>>97772441When something goes wrong, just blame the elves and you're usually right.
>>97772488>Anymore im pretty sure the realms are fully separated. Because in Age of Shitmar, slaanesh went MIA for a long while there, but that never happened in 40kCan be explained by warp time bullshit, slaanesh also always existed while in 40k's timeline it was born after the others
>>97772500lmao, did ruskies wake up one day to a giant ship in the sky that disappeared after a few seconds?
>97772374imagine to waste time of your life to write all this buch of shit, just to get mocked at a mongolian anime forum. i wonder what his parents think about this anon.
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>>97772541Oh yeah, Skulltaker was also a Kurgan before daemonhood. And has a cape filled with Blood Angel skulls.
Stormcast could be done much much better than how they turned to be, in fact Ruination chamber is already a complete improvement over early versions like Sacrosant.
>>97772551>it's noblebright because it's gold!
>>97772591and then it was back again, like any Age of Sigmar plotline>Kragnos and Era of the Beastsolved without issue>Necroquakesovled without issue>Vermindoomwill be solved without issueThe only things that actually affected the setting were stuff like the Beasts of Chaos vanishing or the Phoenix Temple dissolving because these units were returned to TOW
>>97772606You're off your bollocks if you think Necroquake was solved without an issue.
>>97772606>>Vermindoom>will be solved without issueAnon...
>>97772534sounds like you are coping and seething because you have no rebuttal, anon.
>>97772622>rebuttal>to a pasta
>>97772606>wtf the plot never moves forward nobody ever dies this sucks!>wtf the plot is moving forward my characters are dying this sucks!The duality of the AoSfag
>>97772606>>Kragnos and Era of the Beast>solved without issueit didn't get solved, the current solution is leaky>>Necroquake>solved without issuetotal death was only avoided by sheer accident and the realms were still washed in angry ghosts, free roaming wild spells, nagash awakened his ossiarch legions, and the expansion of the shyish nadir was only halted after nagash gave teclis cancer and raped the oldest mountain of hyshit wasn't without issue>>Vermindoom>will be solved without issuethe leaks say otherwise
>>97772622>rebuttalimagine wasting time in a nonsensical shit wall fo text from a schizophrenic faggot lmao.
>>97772667time for you to take your meds, you want to see the humiliation you will receive at adepticon, don't you?
>>97772551did you know that the giant statues here are full of screaming souls writhing in pain waiting to be tortured even further on the anvil where they're going to be remade over and over again until they're perfect slave soldiers?
>>97772657No character should die. You can advance the plot without killing beloved characters anon. Not even Sigmar will truly "die" in the upcoming Chaos Storm.
>>97772693sigmar is undeniably dying, but gods come back from death all the time
>>97772693>You can advance the plot without killing beloved characters anon. Not even Sigmar will truly "die" in the upcoming Chaos Storm.Nice you're rping as one of the two hammerhall cities already :D
What would the reaction be if the leaks turn out to be false?
>>97772709GW's silence already confirms it, also them trying to delete comments about it initially and then jsut giving up
>>97772657Don't be retarded, the objectively correct option is to kill characters I don't like. Go ahead and kill Teclis, or Skarbrand.
>97772670keep fishing for those (You)s someone will bite schizo.
I wouldn't mind if the leaks were real, especially if it gives us an actual world and not this "9 realms but GW int pays attention to about 4" retard shit
>>9777270980% of the people smugly pretending they didn't fall for it20% of the people thinking gw backtracked due to backlash
this is why seraphon fans win>"nooo my characters are dead!" screams the other factionfag>seraphon fans sit pleased, knowing we have one (1) meaningful named character and it's kroak, who GW cant killwe win simply because we already lost all our named guys
>>97772714Such heroic figures are the epitome of NOBLEBRIGHT! I love AoS, Brets were my favourite in WHF so to see them finally supported is incredible
>>97772720>TeclisWTF? Not that absurd "Matriarch of the Wheel"? Not even the irrelevant Zoggrok? Teclis?
>>97772679I didn't say it's PARADISE where sigmarines are spending time with their promised 72 virgins tho'.
>>97772746Lord gar will return
>>97772753Zenestra is immortal
What will happen Tyrion, Teclis, and Allariele during the TLW transition?
>>97772762Kept for warp 4k+ battles
>>97772762mind their own businesses and freak out at slaanesh breaking out of prison
>>97772762they'll die most likely. Tyrion as a name is already used by another popular figure, so he will most likely be renamed
>>97772772Imagine Slannesh trapping Tyrion and Allariele and forcing them to breed elves to corrupt for all eternity
>>97772762Probably killed off so they can return to TOW. It would make sense with them being Elves and very long lived. It would give Fantasy back some of its biggest characters.
>>97772762>What will happen to the characters with big expensive centerpiece models?Nothing
>>97772753> WTF? Not that absurd "literally who"? Not even the irrelevant Gluppo Shitto? Teclis?Yes, if you're killing a character for the story, it has to be someone, that someone cares about, just not one I care about.
You guys seen the Sylvaneth and Daughters tome leaks? Look both sovl and fun
>>97772762Tyrion's soul will be scattered into a million pieces. These remnants will be used by Elves in TLW to activate avatars of Tyrion to defend their cities.Allariele will get trapped in Nurgle's realm and kept as a pet.Teclis will go crazy and constantly try to come up with schemes to undermine Slannesh
>>97772794Haven't given them much of a look, no. Nevertheless I hope for the best.
>>97772794I’m just glad I don’t have to buy three boxes of trees. I can afford to transport the army now.
I would kill literally every single elf character.Yes, Malerion included. No setting needs elves.
I'm an incel chud. I don't know anything about the setting. I think Morathi is hot. Convince me not to.
>>97772837The harpies will snap off their base probably.
>>97772830SOVL
>>97772837A man of culture, you should work towards glory of Morathi.
i had my doubts but it seems they choose the good writers for the new books. thank god.
Eat up sapling https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rYl-38dClSVYx_NP5SGNwV3wVTmYwVm9/view?usp=drivesdk
>>97772837The setting is being squatted in about a year. Best to wait to see if Morathi even makes it over.
>>97772837I'm not your dad, buy all the coom elves you want
>>97772878Morathi anon's autism will make her live
>>97769158hahahaha, eat broken glass and bath in acid, you TOW retard. No one bite your fake screenshot
>>97772837You are being baited and switched. The new DoK miniatures/design philosophy is to be as sexless as possible. Pic related their new models for this edition.
>>97772898Jesus fucking christ.
Are warsong revenants priests now?
>>97772898Perfect elf bodies not marred by weapons or blood so they can have gay lesbian sex after the fight
>>97772837>Convince me not to
>>97772879>Prayers are all song based Sovl. Now I just gotta figure out what it would sound like.
>>97772918Yes
>>97772842All of it looks fragile.>>97772854That's good advice.>>97772878Why would it be squatted?>>97772898Can't I just paint the cloth with glossy black for a latex look or just paint it flesh color and file down/fill up cloth folds?>>97772938They explode?
>>97772947Cool.
>>97772904>>97772953You can try but the designs going forward will echo this. Next edition Witch Aelves will be replaced by less sexualized core as well and you will see the models sent to TOW.
Morathi hosts is the superior flavour of elfs, otherwise you go with horrible indian elfs with weird animals, the stupid bald, blind and rejected water elfs or those vegetables disguising themselves as elfs. choose wisely.
>>97772972>you will see the models sent to TOW
>>97772987so superior they're by far the least popular army in aos
>>97772898I can't lie, I like these models.
>>97772953>Why would it be squatted?Bored people buying into stupid rumours out of nowhere because there's a company trade show about to happen in a couple hours
>>97773003Oh yeah, what do you like about them anon?
>>97773043Not him but I like the hair.
>>97773043nta but they look menacing and kind of sexy with those black robes, i dig the style for an elite unit.
>>97773091You'd love the waterparks in Saudi Arabia then
>>97769730You already have like 4 different flavors of elf
The daughters armies of renown actually look so fun to play its not even funny
>>97773100>the feet are still exposedthis is fine
Anybody got a pdf for DoK?
why elves can have 4 flavours, yet dwarfs only 1 and half?
>>97773148One of the elf flavors will feature another small flavor of dwarf of rootkings.
>>97772938>>97773100they are literally wearing an article of clothing that we in the West call "shirt"
>>97773100where is in this picture the obertures that those hags have in legs and arms?
>>97772898Are these at least some kind of elite infantry anvil, so the bikini sluts can be a hammer?
So I guess this kit will just be "Freeguild Marshall on Manticore" instead of a named character?
>>97772753Zenestra has cool lore despite her uhh presentation leaving something to be desired.
>>97773278As far as we know only Sigmar and maybe some Stormcast die, otherwise everything goes on as normal.
>>97772865Total elven victoryBoneboys btfo yet again
>>97773278in which one of the two cities will end this dudette?
>>97773308She will probably end up as the generic Ind character
>>97773307Within the context if this movie would this meme not mean gw killing fantasy / ghe old world again?
>>97773005that is a very pushed blood sister profile.
>>97773337Idk, didnt watch
>>97773337it means nothing in the movie either. Thanos came to them and blew up their house and then sat down waiting for his people to find the gems. Them climbing out of the rubble and seeing his dumbass decided to just kill him had nothing to do with them not living with failure.
>>97773307Back to what? Warhammer: The Old World is a tabletop miniature wargame released in 2024.
dok bros... is just me or we are finally fun and good?
>>97773407Weren't we fun and good before?
>>97773407Do you have any info or leaks ?I rallye Wonder how good the new morathi is.
Where is the countdown to the reveal?? and the siluethe image??
>lumineth book : kino>dok book : kino>sylvaneth book : kino>idoneth book : ...T*clis must be behind this somehow
reveals in an hour?
>>97773496I was just thinking this
>>97773496its genuinely uncanny, neglected in rules, models and lore
>>97773496Emberneth when?
>>97773513Yes.Weird they didn't do a countdown for this one.
>>97773546Deepkin at least have a bl novel. Cant really say the same for sylvaneth. No dark harvest doesn’t count.
>>97773562Sigmar lied.Sigmar died.No need for a countdown.
>>97773496>>97773546But don't worry bros. GW would NEVER squat an unpopular neglected faction
>>97773583when was the last time they squatted elves though
>>97773582Sigmar was weak
>>97773588Ynnari
>>97773588Ahhh... but here we're dealing with Aelves
>>97773546>idoneth, daughters of khaine and fyreslayers are aos' least popular armies with beasts and the green retards gone>fyreslayers get a second chance as part of a brand new faction which well effectively be their second wave>daughters of khaine (will) get a second chance as part of a brand new faction which well effectively be their second wave>idk gets ... two pity heroes and a recycled incarnateCythaibros I'm scared
>>97773278It'll have to be anyway? The timeline jumps a decade every edition and she's already grey
>>97773596literally who>>97773583BoC and bonesplitters were such terrible models aos is better offdeepkin everyone at least acknowledges is cool but no one goes for it for whatever reason
>>97773596This. The whole eldar shitshow was hilarious and a stain remains for the whole race and all the factions.
rip sylvaneth.
>>97773604>daughters of khaine (will) get a second chance as part of a brand new faction which well effectively be their second waveFuck this. Leave Momma Morathi alone.
>>97773604>well getHow the fuck did I make that mistake twice, they're not even close on the keyboard. Man I'm getting tired, I happen to have the day off tomorrow so I figured I might as well stay up but I might just fall asleep during the show anyway lol.
I just hope the new cities range has cool weapons.
>>97773616>BoC were such terrible modelsyou deserve a slap anon, the only reason BoC were bad was because they never got they rightful update, same reason no one goes with Deepkin, instead of get any good model of the whole bunch of marine animals they could do models with they get stupid spells, heroes and etc.
Will you guys be buying Total War: The Last World?
>>97773640don't worry when they split the faction in two you will get to choose a side lol
>>97773650If 40k Total War isn't horrible they will just be making DLC for that for the next 30 years
>>97773650Ask me again in like a year and a half after it's expected to have launched.
>>97773661How do things work ip wise with horus heresy? If they include units from there the marine dlc's alone could power CA for the next century.
>>97773640Th-thank you Cities of Sigmar.Because... Um......You were Sigmar's cities.
>>97773706>If they include units from there the marine dlc's alone could power CA for the next century.I think that's the plan. If they manage to make a game that isn't total dogshit (which I doubt from what we've seen so far and a lifelong TW enjoyer starting from Rome 1) then they will keep it going indefinitely. They got over a decade from Fantasy, and they could still get years out of Fantasy. And that's a limited space world. Imagine 40k where there are no tangible limits.
>>97773706They're including a model painter in the base game so the DLC won't be as easy as reskining SM chapters.
>>97773717Despite TW games being dogshit for many years now, I have confidence that the base game will be just competent enough to to be enjoyable for general public and be enough to keep CA afloat (license power alone aside.)
COGFORT SILHOUETTE ON WARCOM, IT'S HAPPENING!
>>97773717They were scraping the fuck out of the battle at the end, like with oceanids and whatnot, imagine the bullshit they could put in tw 40k.
>>97773826>>97773826>>97773826
>>97773812All I see is an ork
>>97773801>>97773812Okay I'm interestedShould we do a new thread? I know it's early but we're at 125 images already, might be awkward to do when it's in the middle of the show and shit is moving fast.
>>97773812LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
>>97773827>>97773831Oh lmao
>>97769017Soon
>>97769052Ahahaha, welcome to end timesification siggy piggies. The old world came back and gw realised they no longer need you.
