They ruined them
>NOOOOOO WE WANT STEEL LEGION NOW>*gw reveals steel legion concept arts*>NOOOOOO THE HELMET IS 1MM TOO SHORT AIIEEEEGuardtrannies are mentally ill, GW should just squat the range and cause a mass suicide
>>97782488Post your models.
>>97782811You first, bot.
>>97782832aaah, no pics because no models...
Guard chuds will over step all boundaries lol the fact GW did this is rare as is
>>97782904>>97782781You give guard players an inch they take a mile covered in mud
>>97782488You weren't buying them either way.Guys who interact with models exclusively as pictures on the screen do not get input. This is not for you.
Are people finally turning on guard players?
>>97782952Nah this just happens with every 40k model line reboot Happened with Krieg and Cadia for guard, happened with Dark Angels and Space Wolves for marines I will admit blood angels were absolutely shit
>>97782952Guard players are all annoying pick me pieces of shit
>>97782488GW products were always bad.
>>97782952/tg/ has always been guardfag hive #1, easily evident by reading the embarrassing 1d4 articles (Boreale's is especially douche-chill inducing).
>>97782488I think they look very cool. I'm thinking I'll make them my first Imperial Guard army
>>97782781Hey man, I hate it too. I love the Guard, but let's face it we spent twenty years bitching for Krieg models that weren't a hundred dollars a sprue Forge World shit, and then we FINALLY get them, and GW uses them in a fucking ad and people act like it's the goddamn apocalypse. Or, Armageddon, rather.I don't know what people want. Like no shit guys, they have two lines of Guard out, Kriegers and Cadians. Guess what's going to appear in your Lebanese-produced SFM teaser trailers. Models that you can actually fucking buy. You think they're going to make THREE lines or fucking Guard? Have we ever had three plastic lines of Guard in your lifetime? It was Catachans and Cadians, now it's Kriegers and Cadians, and you want STEEL LEGION of all things? Yeah man we need Gasmask Trenchcoats (G*rman) and Gasmask Trenchcoats (Fr*nch) those totally justify a whole separate line.If they do a third Guard line it should be Mordians or something. Fucking Steel Legion--just shoot me boss I'm tired.
I genuinely don’t get the appeal of guard. They seem to be rather boring, and the historical aspects generally seem rather dull. Also all the vehicles look like dogshit when you stare at them for longer than 30 seconds.
>Steel Leg*on >not Armageddon Ork Hunters You fuckers complaining about "everything is Cadian/Krieg" need your paint pots epoxyed shut, you faggots are crying about a pallete swapped version of Kreig.
>>97785242This is why the game has different armies, Anon, because they appeal to different kinds of people and different aesthetic preferences. The Guard are very human and very easy to personalize in certain ways, and you're going to have a LOT of guys if you want to, so you can do all sorts of stuff. I used to put little sashes on all of my sergeants with green stuff.
>>97782488Another finger closes on the paw.
>>97785297I can understand an autist that lives and breathes 40k being a GW apologist but what the fuck is the motivation for an ignorant fucking idiot like you?
>guardfaggingsomehow even more autistic than just being a space marine sperg
>>97785384Guard and Nid players are, I am convinced, the only people who actually enjoy playing 40k.
>>97785380>noooooFuck off retard. The AOH are unique, they're ratty guardsmen that use ork weapons, not some temu starship troopers or color swapped WW1 rejects. The Ork Hunters don't even use fucking lasguns because Orks don't respect lasers and either use the Armageddon pattern Autogun or Ork shootas because Orks actually respect bullets. And no they're not Catachan reskins, the Ork Hunters are their own thing.
>>97782966The Dark Angels and Space Wolves refreshes were almost universally loved, same with the Black Templars. It was only the Blood Angels people were pissed about.
>>97785476Space wolves Primaris were terrible. The terminator were just amazing. Black Templars suffer from the same primaris shit as space wolves.
>>97785459I don't need to be told who the Armageddon Ork Hunters are, I know the fluff, and I also know they started out as Catachan conversions just like the DKoK started as a Steel Legion palette swap. Not the other way around. Stupid cunt.
>>97785221I do expect a catachan release, if only in the form of some veterans like krieg at the start, to gauge the reception. They have released a suspicious amount of characters for them during the years.
>>97785297The tables have turned, krieg used to be reskinned steel legion
https://youtu.be/27cjE9CViLICringe?
Buy an ad
>>97782832Why do you pretend to care about a hobby you take no part in?
>>97782911>They take a mileGUARDSMEN, I WANT MY DRINK CABINET 6 MILES IN THAT DIRECTION. I think the biggest complaint I would have is that the concept art seems lackluster. I get that DKoK started as a paint variant of these guys but they've pushed the DKoK for 3 years and now they have to give these guys some visual language of tehir own. >Wanted to see some machoman goggles>Wanted to see some visual language about their uniqueness. >Need to convinced that I can't just repaint DKoK and call them Steel Legion (and I totally can, if these are mechanized infantry the mechanized bit needs to be emphasized, show me what is cool about these guys not just yellow vs blue)Honestly giving them bigger beaks , Shiny tanker goggles, Scout type units in shorter jackets (with tassles), give them mobile barricades and firing platforms something, I was never the biggest fan but they need to be cool and it's not accepable to be overshadowed by their little brother unit.
>>97785221GW die hards are psycho and never happy
>>97787079>GW die hards are psycho and never happyYes but they have money, so if Gw wants the money, get them on board. You say that like the consumer base of any product isn't basically summed up like that. Oh the macdonald's people? Psycho, never happy. Can you imagine just not consuming the slop? What do these people want. Welcome to doing business, if you want my dollarydoo's you better get fucking working.
>>97787099It's weird because if gw does something I like, I try to find it for a good price and if I can'tI go back to my 1/72 stuff where 50 figures costs 10 dollars and wait for the next luxury good. Getting a bit too expensive imo but otherwise they have been putting out nice shit. Annoying to put together tho
>>97787114>1/72nd scaleBoltaction? I do think a lot of people need to just leave GW alone if they aren't happy with it. Gw produces overpriced models to a ludicris extent. I hope GW recalibrates prices (especially considering their input costs and how much AI must be helping them on the sculpting side). It's a kid's game, Kid's should be able to afford it without a second mortgage. I definitely think having a healthy appreciation of other companies/games/scales/proxies is the key to really enjoying the hobby. Just make cool shit, paint a little. Bitch about GW, the full experience right there. >annoying to put togetherI feel like this is one of the main area's that GW has sort of responded to? They are releasing more pushfit kits? Like their Space Marine Heroes line I thought? I hope that Gundam Assemble eats their dang lunch and pushes them to making things more approachable.
>>97787186Nope, ancients and napoleonics
>>97782488>Release new Yarrick with a focus on Armageddon>Don't have a Steel Legion release to go alongside itFor what purpose?
>>97787196cause they had no idea
>>97787196GW is notoriously bad at scheduling releases in a way that makes sense.
>>97782488>>97782781I don't hate the concept art but it objectively looks kind of off and weird. As far as why GW hasn't touched Armageddon, aside from James Workshop being an absent father, I've heard some people claim that it's because they're directly Nazi-inspired, but GW clearly rubber stamps the shit Dorktide plops out and they put an Armageddon dude in straight up 40k-ified SS camo with the little gorget thing in Darktide and seemingly nobody cared, so I doubt that would be the reason.>>97785221I get where you're coming from but in the modern day you'd think that they could release products, at the very least in middling/low volume, for the ten gorillion guard regiments that have been canonized over the decades. At the very least they could stop being copyright trolls and let people pick up their slack but they barely even do that.
>>97785242I like the logistical aspects of the guard fantasy, and the vehicles look better with non-camo paint schemes
>>97787673They had an official picture of a Steel Legion trooper in actual ss camo. But thats ancient, and they probably would not re-use it ever again.The camo on your picture is not related to the SS at all btw, which is probably why nobody gave a shit.
>>97787802>The camo on your picture is not related to the SS at all btwIt looks a lot like Splittertarnmuster to me, but maybe I'm just retarded. It's certainly different to the Cadian Kasrkin camo with the weird white-outlined red polygons.
>>97782488>Nogames pog out over lore videos about le based chud guardsmen>Start demanding chud guardsmen>GW half-ass chud guardsmen because good designers only work on Age of Sigmar>Guardplayers pay up for the slop, nogames sperg out, GW rolls out a shitty balance patch. All is right in the cosmos
>>97787004>Dkok >Paint variant Nope
They're objectively retarded redesigns, but why would anyone care? Every Guard regiment of note has been available as STLs for ages now. You can easily find scans of the original Steel Legion metals on trannygram, and several people have done "modernised" versions(only one of whom is a big enough faggot to have cucked out and redesigned the helmets).Modern GW make shit rules, shit models, and shit fluff so why are you still letting them control your hobby? If you're that much of a masochist just pay some chick in a leather corset to step on your balls, it'll be cheaper in the long run.
My steel legion models are green.
I just don't fucking understand why they change shitThey rescaled the entire game so they could make people buy the same thing again, but instead of selling them the same thing again (which people would eat up) they change it so it's different and now the people who they're trying to milk twice don't want it anymoreIt's the worst of all worlds
>>97787831yes it does, and guess who did not wear splittertarn at all? The SS. Due to rivalry between Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe and SS, the SS did not get any of the stuff the others had, so they had to come up with their own camo pattern, which resulted in the early oakleaf pattern you could see in poland and france, and this evolved into all their other camo patterns during the war, while Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe kept their Splinter pattern, and only evolved it into the Sumpftarn later on.
>>97787802This one?
>>97788344Yes. First dkok were armageddon models painted differently.
>>97789573Codex art was before that.
You faggots can't be happy because you're still placing expectation before reality.
>>97782488Can't have literal fallschirmjager Guard, anon. Now they look like generic slop shit. This is what you all get for bitching until they slopped together some shitty concept art the night before Adepticon. We could have had MTO metal Steel Legion forever but no. You all had to bitch about how they weren't in the shitty CGI trailer.Real 40k fans like me realize 40k died after 4th edition. Today's GW isn't a fun company of gamers it's a boring corpo of suits and climbers who don't give a shit about what the greats established from 1st-4th editions. The sooner you realize current year GW has nothing to offer is the sooner you'll have fun with 40k again.
>>97782488why even change the fallschirmjaeger helmets when the stahlhelm is what is identified as nazi-esque?
>>97795993Also! Steel Legion's symbol was the British Union of Fascists roundel. Now it's a fucking big gay A. LMAO!
>>97782488Idk ask /40kg/
>>97795993Yet here you are bitching about what current GW is doing, just as if you thought they'd give you the thing you wanted.
>>97796012>symbol was the British Union of Fascists roundel>Now it's a fucking big gaySo it's remained the same?
>>97787673>GW clearly rubber stamps the shit Dorktide plops outFWIW, Fatfish (the devs that make Darktide) stated that GW has to greenlight everything related to the look of characters.And they do manage to get a look that is close to the look and feel of WH40k, Rogue Trader, etc. minis.
>>97796563That is the opposite of what my post said. I don't think anyone should care what current GW does because it is all dogshit.
>>97796631I assumed this was the case, and I am glad (and yes, the character designs in Darktide look very good from what I've seen of them). My point was that I don't understand how GW can on the one hand seem to be piss-scared of representing "problematic" things on the tabletop, which is a far more niche part of the hobby, yet be perfectly fine with representing the very same things in vidya that is directly micromanaged by them which undoubtedly has a wider audience.The hopeful side of me wants to believe they finally stopped listening to the whiners, but the logical side of me says "wait, they still redesigned their uniforms and insignia in the concept art". GW is absurdly wishy-washy and desperately wants to play both sides even though that is both retarded and impossible in this circumstance.
>>97787673Here's the regular Darktide Armageddon look.
>>97796711>My point was that I don't understand how GW can on the one hand seem to be piss-scared of representing "problematic" things on the tabletop, which is a far more niche part of the hobby, yet be perfectly fine with representing the very same things in vidya that is directly micromanaged by them which undoubtedly has a wider audience.It's harder to blame GW itself for what their licensees do. The books and models are made by them though, which is why they're so anal about it. It's like insulation. The licensee takes most of the heat and GW tightens restrictions a little more for everyone else to deflect blame.
>>97782781I found the commissar and the ELEVEN BARRELS OF HELL things funnyPeople who take guard seriously are doing it wrong
>>97787673the SS looked like this, for your information.Steel Legion are based on fallschirmjäger, ww2 german paratroopers, plus gasmasks. not necessarily SS.
>>97800411>Steel Legion are based on fallschirmjäger, ww2 german paratroopers, plus gasmasks. not necessarily SS.You're barking up the wrong tree. These are the same people that look at a picklehaub and think "NAZI!!!!"
>>97800411>Steel Legion are based on fallschirmjäger, ww2 german paratroopers, plus gasmasksYes, I'm aware. The helmet is specifically based off of the Fallschrimjagers' cut down helmet design. I was referring to the camo specifically, but I'm a retard and forgot that Splittertarn was a Wehrmacht/Luftwaffe thing too. To be fair, I don't know why GW based a tank regiment off of paratroopers instead of, say, panzergrenadiers instead, but the Steel Legion look cool as fuck so I'm inclined not to care.>>97800571Speaking of, why don't we have Prussian/Early German Empire inspired regiments? I guess one could argue they'd be stepping on Krieg's toes, but Krieg is (ironically) more reminiscent of the French uniform-wise and much later anyway. "Praetorians but German" with pickelhaubes would be cool as fuck. There's even those Garde du Corps pickelhaubes with the eagle on them that would be perfect for 40k if you made them more grimdark.
>>97801007>Speaking of, why don't we have Prussian/Early German Empire inspired regiments?https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/helldiver-2s-next-warbond-will-let-you-look-even-more-fascist-than-normal-adds-in-a-literal-swordThis should answer your question. To the average retard on social media anything remotely German relating to the period between 1845 and 1945 is "fascist." The only reason you're getting these factions at all is because they are a legacy from earlier times when people were somewhat less indoctrinated into some insane caricature of history. It's the same reason the Steel Legion lost their M38 helmets, and Games Workshop are nothing but ball lickers for these people.
