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Mathemagics Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-march-23-2026

>News
The Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026

Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97777003

>TQ
How are the Secrets of Strixhaven (SOS) spoilers so far?
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>>97786111
>same OP
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Play

Dandan

https://pastebin.com/KCJQ1TkF
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>>97786280
It's borderless this time.
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Embrace tradition.
Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
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>tq
yawn
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Anyone else think it has racist undertones to reduce viashino to lizards and cephalid to octopuses? Imagine the outrage if humans got retyped to apes
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>>97786829
Woah buddy, you can't call white (mana) humans apes! That's racist!
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>Cleanse is raysis!
>Whiffs on 95% of cards depicting blacks
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>>97786829
Sorry chud, unique creature types are only given to Magic: the Gathering Universes Beyond Expansion Sets now. Wizards of the Coast knows its primary audience is only interested in Commander, and in Commander Preconstructed Deck products the wonderful design team has used the rich, deep lore of Magic: the Gathering Universes Beyond settings to craft meticulous detail into each and every Expansion Set, Preconstructed Deck, and Supplemental Commander Product. Sorry not sorry, seeing Daleks and Nuka-Cola in every Magic: the Gathering Commander Game Night is the future.
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>>97786978
Oooh I'm cuuuubbbing
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>>97786978
They haven't had a good dragon cycle in decades.
They still need to print the rest of the modern horizon's dragon cycle. Turns out EDH players don't actually care about elder dragons becoming the highlander.
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>>97787095
These are goated designs. They all do something neat and don’t devolve the game into a shitfest.
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Are you ready for cheating your wat through victory?
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>>97787173
>Retard has to have it explained to him for the 500th time that if the card touches your main grip of cards you can't miracle it
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>>97787195
>top decks and plays omniscience for 2
Problem?
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>>97787208
>Instant or sorcery
Yeah you not being able to read is a problem.
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/secrets-of-strixhaven-episode-5-breaking-point
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>>97787212
I've never found it to be.
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>>97787240
sick artwork
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>>97787240
>Dew dripped onto the pyromancer's head. A hiss of steam rose up from it. In the smoke, he thought he saw a spiral.
Snarliness coming off her. Chandra turning Prismari.
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Decades of fecal fasting have unlocked the ability of many arms, one body
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>>97787095
the oversight of dromar not specifying other creatures will always be funny
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>>97787240
...So when they said they were gonna do more outside of Strixhaven, they just meant stuff with archaics?
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>>97786982
Yeah it's very important daleks got their own creature type and couldn't at all be typed as robots. All 4 of them...
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>>97786926
it's like people are seeing things that aren't there. who's the rassism nau?
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>>97787273
This will be a wizard, not a monk.
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>>97787029
stop saying it like that
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>>97787285
These episodes have largely been set outside campus grounds so it's holding true in a literal sense
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>>97787331
>destroy all black creatures
>it's called cleanse because lots of black creatures are demons and such
>no but actually it's referring to black people, not the demons, devils and other corrupted things
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>>97787333
Well yeah, she's a wizard not a monk.
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>>97787341
>wotc DEI is full of chuds who think corruption and evil means black ppl
uuuh, based?
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Anons, whats the best ammount of lands for a red green landfall deck? Any must add cards?
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>>97787095
>They haven't had a good dragon cycle in decades.
what you posted came from a very chuddy period of magic.
those days are long gone, boomer.
be happy with they/them "dragons" now
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How many of you soft-cocks are going to LDXP Tacoma 2026 this weekend?
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>>97787358
The same thing happened with Orcs on D&D, they were literally influenced to cause violence because of their evil deity, which directly influenced them, but clearly inherently aggressive and violent humanoid meant black person.
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>>97787608
I remember something like that but wasn't it lotr orcs? wotc still printed orcs in both sets
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>>97786926
They censored it because it told the truth

This is the pattern destroying the only parts of the world that matter.

Islam is literally groups of (((nonwhite people))) with a deity that tells the followers to lie, rape and kill everyone else - there is a range of like 5th cousin where you become acceptable to lie, rape and kill each other again. shunni, seia
idgaf you're all the same

The thing is the followers of these religions are too low iq to realize they will be forever primitive humans. Even animal will be blessed if they follow the obey god's laws. Something only inherit to white people.

The whites who advocate for these lesser humans want them to rape and kill real humans (((white people))) while lying about it.

The western version of this demon worship lives of off the sacrifice of children through murder and gender manipulation. Trannies are the idles who need to be reminded that they are heckin cute and valid or they will complete the ritual.

hell has diversity, equity and inclusion
heaven does not
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>all land is destroyed
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>>97786926
That's why Crusade is banned. Because it hits that 95%.
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>>97787528
It's okay the actual dragons still conform to real genders, they're just gay.
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>>97786344
will you play it with me on tabletop simulator?
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>>97788052
Want to play the pringle version?
need to flick the cards while you waste time thinking
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>>97788174
no i just don't know where you live and Tabletop Simulator (as well as other ways to simulate MTG but idk if Xmage supports one-deck-two-players formats) allows us to play no matter where we are. And i'm not sharing my webcam on 4chan, privacy and anonymity are a thing.
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>>97787095
Literally all these old dragons are unplayable trash, Gramps.
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>>97787208
>>97787173

I CANT FUCKING WAIT
ANOTHER NEW ARCHETYPE TO ADD TO MY STANDAR-

>5+2 mana
naw honestly that's fucking shit
its not even going to be on par with rescue skiff lmao

Everything here is better
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>>97788241
The correct answer is Numot, the Devastator
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I think I'm gonna bring 5C Allies to standard tonight.
Hope I can at least win a few games.
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>>97786978
>the balancer
>not mono white
Oyvey the kikery
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Episode 5 of SOS. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/secrets-of-strixhaven-episode-5-breaking-point
>We open with a quote, presumably from Tam's teacher towards Tam, about violence not always being the answer, but when it is, to be decisive about it
>Chandra and Ajani trudge on silently but awkwardly through the tunnels
>Chandra's trying to think of how to best to get Ajani to believe her, and it's mostly circling the drain
>During her thoughts, she has a brief hallucinatory vision/memory of another place she's never seen or been to, so thick with energy she can't feel anything else
>And then it's gone and she's back in the tunnel
>They come to a three-way fork, and Chandra has to wonder which route to take
>Ajani is thinking too
>He's internally conflicted over wanting to treat Chandra with respect as an equal, but finding her actions make that hard for him to do
>How can she be so certain the visions are real? Can she be certain they're not planted there by Ashiok or some such?
>He does see Pia and Jaya both in Chandra's face for a moment, and the warmth and the memories bring him some comfort as they go down a tunnel of Chandra's choosing
>They hear the archaic first, painfully wailing while another voice soothes it, giving it first aid apparently
>Out they exit into the skull of the Titan's Grave's Titan, and there's the massive archaic, with Jadzi in its palm tending to its wounds with a healing spell
>Across from them is a snarl, but there shouldn't be any snarls in Titan's Grave, so that's an issue
>And Chandra, despite all her passion, can't bring herself to strike down a wounded thing being healed so carefully
>And Jadzi also very clearly knows they're there as she speaks up to them
>Ajani and Jadzi get to talking about having issues with students for a bit, while Chandra tries to refute that she's a problem
>There's some more talk, then Chandra asks what the archaic wanted with her, because apparently it just wanted to talk to Jadzi
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>>97788467
>Jadzi first off explains what archaics are, for the sake of two non-natives, that they're oracles who, instead of dying, are flung backwards in time to relive history, turning into those things in the process
>And THIS archaic is the very last one that will ever be, the last oracle and archaic both
>And it was in distress and had something to say to an oracle
>Ajani asks what did it have to say, she says that simply put something is threatening the future of Arcavios itself, which Chandra immediately thinks means it's Jace, but Ajani goes "well maybe"
>He asks Jadzi how it threatens the future, but she has no idea
>The archaic whimpers and briefly sort of flickers out of existence like an illusion before re-appearing, which Jadzi says has been happening to a lot of them
>Because if there's no future, there's no archaics, so they might simply cease to be if things go the way they're going
>Chandra goes "okay so we should stop this", Jadzi says that killing an archaic is treating the symptom, not the disease, and Chandra sort of quietly begs her to stand aside
>Jadzi simply responds, asking if Chandra's willing to throw away the plane's future, if she's THAT certain, which she can't respond to
>Jadzi goes "Okay, so your friend is behind this you think?" to which Chandra retorts he's not her friend anymore, Ajani goes "come on, we've been through a lot, we can't turn our backs on him surely" which pisses her off
>Then the archaic wails again, and SOMETHING boils over Ajani, and he's thinking of Chandra as a known Avishkar agitator, or a Consulate enforcer, and himself as burning with rage and vengeance, and then it's all back to normal
>He asks Jadzi how often that's been happening
>She says at first every few hours, but it's getting more and more frequent, and every time something about the future changes
>Chandra points to the snarl-like thing and asks what it is, Jadzi thinks it's some sort of nexus
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Thanos
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Any lore heads can explain what is actually supposed to happen when the second sun arrives? why does it make you win the game?
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>>97788516
>Ajani gets closer and sees visions of worlds he does and doesn't know in it, and briefly sees a vision of his brother alive and well
>Jadzi says that maybe the three of them can untangle this thing together, because Vess and Fel are competent and have given her high expectations for Planeswalkers
>Ajani offers that as the compromise for him and Chandra to work together, which she quietly accepts
>And cut to Chandra, who it turns out was lying
>The three of them are doing some sort of synchronised ritual thing and then Chandra collapses midway through due to another massive headache/vision thing
>And while Chandra's getting up, she realises she's right in sight of the archaic, and could roast it...
>So she sets off a fireball, but Ajani's axe comes down on her arm before it's released, sending it wide and Ajani shouts at her, asking if she's truly that committed, that violence is only going to make this worse
>Chandra retorts with that same quote about violence from the start which probably means nothing
>So, a fight breaks out, a proper one this time, while Jadzi tries to fix the damage, Ajani tries to defend the archaic and Chandra tries to roast it alive
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>>97788547
Amonkhet's second Sun is basically a really slow-moving thing that, when it lined up with the horns, heralded the return of the God-Phaoraoh, Bolas, and all the problems he caused when he did that.
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>>97788547
Before Bolas trespassed on Amonkhet, the Second Sun was used to signal the trials, with a single champion being sacrificed every revolution. When Bolas invaded the plane during the Great Mending, he magically fixed the Second Sun in the sky, enchanting it to gradually cross the sky toward the Horn Monument, casting the plane in perpetual daytime. It eventually aligned with the Monument, announcing Bolas's arrival and the start of the hours. After the Hour of Devastation, the sun returned to its normal cycle, returning night to the plane.
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>>97788538
>big purple dude
Marvel hero/villain design is kinda lame, innit?
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>>97788538
After removing half of all living things to nothingness. Thanos started growing marijuana in Seattle and playing Hasbro's hit game Magic the Gathering with everyone's local educator and child groomer, the professor. Tune in once a month where you too can see the Thanos and the Professor interact with men dressed like women.
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>>97788560
>>97788575
so the idea is that the second sun arrives and you herald the arrival of Bolas which makes you win the game?
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>>97788744
Yes.
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what the fuck happened?
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>>97787240
>>97787271
Very nice.
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play

planar

standard
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>>97788560
Bolas did send everyone to die on ravnica. It seems like the caster has Bolas send the opponents to die on another plane.

That would have been a better story than what we got. It would allow Nicole Bolas to be alive safely on another plane with undead slaves to maintain hordes of gold.
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>>97787285
Presumably the set itself will show more, but it's called Secrets of Strixhaven. The main bulk is still the school, that's the main feature of the plane.
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>>97787355
I'll be honest, I didn't know Jadzi was a pre-existing character, I know so little about OG Strixhaven.
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play

premodern
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>>97788898
>Juege premoderno!!!
>Ese taco hombre!!!
>Compre LA Carta!!
>Necesito compraro El taco taco!!!
>Andele andele huehuehue!!!
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>>97788854
Yeah but then Bolas wouldn't be getting buttfucked by Ugin every night, and that's the only thing he wants in life.
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>>97788956
its ok anon, i forgive you, there is also a room for you
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>>97788898
>>97788956
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>Instant Brazilian samefag meltdown
KeeeeK
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you

play

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>Game is so shit threads devolved into format tribalism
now its so over where do we go anons? sorcery? mahjong?
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>>97789199
Post more Sakura.
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So /mtg/, when it comes to the state of MTG lately;

Do we hate HASBRO??? Or do we hate WIZARDS OF THE COAST??

I'm getting confused on who are the bad guys lately but I'm leaning Hasbro
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>>97789212
Hate both, obviously. But of the two, Hasbro's greed and desperation is the font of evil from which all our misery flows. WotC is a gleeful instrument of Hasbro's will.
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This is a commercial

That's forgetful fish is getting spammed
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>>97789199
The only format tribalism is Magic vs EDH. Anything else is just shitposting.
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>>97789212
I hate the players that let it happen
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>>97789199
I remember back when the only question was Modern VS Standard and now it's all arguing over which fan format will be the successor to all 60-card to fight off EDH.
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>>97789269
The players didn't let it happen. Every format is dead because the majority of players stopped playing the game. WotC now mainly sells to normalfag tourists who don't actually play the game, speculators who leave product sealed, and whales who will buy everything anyway even if their LGS is a ghost town and they haven't played a game in months. Hell, not infrequently the product sells to no one at all and the retailers are left holding the bag.
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>>97789212
I hate both. If I had to pick one I would pick WotC because their greed existed since the RL and I don't want to pretend this was some external force.
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>>97789124
what is this prefire (not premodern) format and how do I get in?
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>>97789212
hasbro is 100% the devil but wotc is full of cucks who can't say no either.
I wonder why they didn't just refuse the cock parasite and why they signed a contract they can't get out of.
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>>97789212
Hasbro forced WotC to make line go up
WotC chose the stupidest methods of making line go up
so i hate both. simple as.
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>>97789441
you take a gun
and you fire it at WotC HQ
the pre- part of prefire comes from the fact you're doing it before they shoot you
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>>97789503
>you take a gun
>and you fire it at WotC HQ
in minecraft, right a-a-anon?!
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UB: Harry Potter soon, despite WotC's claims. Just expect black Hermione as "compensation".
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>>97789212
Hasbro is an evil company a company so devolve of any moral that they are willing to destroy their own properties for the sake of squeezing the last short term sheckel they can grab from uninformed casuals, but hey, they are a COMPANY thats they work

JOTC on the other hand don't have any excuse, lead by Mark Nosewater they were the creators of this whole brand yet for the sake of money and with an absolute lack of any self respect for what was a great product before they just took every single wrong decision without even thinking a moment for their customer base, or better said, just thinking in the casual and retarded part of their customer base (EDH players) so both are bad but JOTC are worse.
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>>97789602
You're not even white lol shut the fuck up
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>>97789667
Cry me a river, pig.
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>>97789441
its basically modern with all sets being legal up to war of the spark
they have a stalblished banlist and a healthy meta too
>>full list at https://prefiremagic.com/
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>>97789684
I had to google if it's real before clicking that shit and I can't believe I'm finally home
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I would a Black Hermione.
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>>97789684
If they start playing this in paper I'm playing Lantern Control. Don't want get up and talk to strangers between games.
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we need ub of succesful ips like harry potter, game of thrones, friends and peaky blinders to erase any uw apologists resistance.
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>>97789738
just present your idea at you lgs
i did, a couple of guys hopped to it, talked to the owner, asked if we could do a small league and now its the only event to rival commander saturday
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>>97789199
no matter what, there is and always will be mahjong
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>>97789199
Go play ygo
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>>97789776
>YuGi
He wanted a solution anon, not a new problem.
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>>97789738
>>97789754
give it around 2030, people's nostalgia of the past modern meta kicks in a decade after
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what about planar standard? can this format become popular enough?
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>>97789800
the whole point of standard is fast rotation, to satisfy some people's desire to have a constantly shifting meta regardless of actual balance
covid is long over, they really should go back to the old short rotation
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>>97788052
I would if I could. Looking after my daughter today then working.

>>97788174
An imposter
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>>97789684
how do you think Maro is going to cope when see players are running away from his super fun and interactive game philosophy?
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>>97789776
nta but I've been seriously looking in to it more and more. the only problem I have with it is the horrible playpatterns new cards bring
I know there is genesys which sounds like a perfect solution but I'm still waiting them to fiddle with it a bit more
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>>97789800
besides the shit awful art problem with moderm magic is how poorly balanced new cards are
see >>97789859
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>>97789776
i played genesys and i hate how samey all decks are
just feels like monoblue decks mirrors with a splash of red
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I just want a non-straight to format and non-UB modern and I know that's just too niche
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Maro will tell wotc to make cube products of premodern and prefire which will include special versions of cards like phyrexian dreadnought with a different card back which they will say is not tournament legal
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>>97789902
if they can't affect a closed format with cards they'll go after the rules. printing something (tibalt) that will break an old mechanic (cascade) and then fuck people until they make a format that uses outdated rules
I see it as the evolutionary arms race of some rival animals
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Would they ever make a secret lair cube? Maybe a 360 card cube. What type of cube would people want to see?
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>>97789984
I want a pringles theme. It can be called "The Family Pack" it has reference to all the chip brands of five years ago
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>>97790011
Based pringles enjoyer
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I want to draft so bad bros... can't wait for Strixhaven
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>>97789984
>Would they ever make a secret lair cube?
that'll be $5000 please
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>>97789984
yes and it will have mechanically unique cards
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>>97789240
Hasbro isn't evil. Hasbro is what they've always been—retarded out of touch penny pushers. It's WotC that allowed itself to be colonized by the ideologically possessed. That Magic's own IP could no longer compete with the likes of AMC's The Walking Dead is a product of WotC's 10 year campaign of self-sabotage against the straight white male, not Hasbro.
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For the most part they kinda don't look comfy. Not bad but not inviting. Witherbloom looks cozy.
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>>97790206
Why would I want my magic card to look "inviting"?
I'm trying to cast spells not cultivate chill vibes
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>>97790215
I like lands cards with good and confortable "lands" printed on them.
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A fucking grape.
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>>97790197
>That Magic's own IP could no longer compete with the likes of AMC's The Walking Dead is a product of WotC's 10 year campaign of self-sabotage against the straight white male, not Hasbro.
finally someone gets it
Hate UB all you want, but none of you can ever defend UW and that's all that needs to be said about the truth of the matter
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>>97790218
Lame
Fuck "comfy" shit like dog cards or cuddly smiling lands. Magic being sanitized in order to appeal to women and trannies has been a disaster
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>>97790272
talked like a true edgelord lol
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>>97790276
Not wanting to get fucked up the ass and called a princess doesn't make me an edgelord
Fuck this "comfy" shit.
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>>97790242
pre hasbro wotc had 95% white main protags
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>>97790338
that was way back in 1999 anon, well before invasion block, onslaught block, and time spiral
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Modern at the time of Splinter Twin's banning was 3,160 cards.

Standard right now is 4,168 cards.
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>>97790443
>Standard right now is 4,168 cards.
How high can it go? I actually lost track and dont know how often standard set rotation must happen.
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>>97790443
But anon line must go UP!!
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>>97790455
>How high can it go?
Five more sets before the next rotation.
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>>97790455
what you should actually ask yourself is how many legendaries will standard have by december of 2027?
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>>97788791
Freedom and creativity. That's what the fuck happened
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>>97790461
>Five more sets before the next rotation.
B-but we already have 15 sets, so at some point we will have 19 fucking sets in standard?

>>97790462
I absolutely dont care about cuckolder. The only good thing it ever did is allowing me to sell my garbage old cards at 40x mark up
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>>97790494
>B-but we already have 15 sets, so at some point we will have 19 fucking sets in standard?
20.
Five more sets then AFTER that it rotates.
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This would have been a $1000 card if it came out 10 years ago.
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>>97790526
Thanos did nothing wrong
MCU ended at Infinity War
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My ideal Magic card depicts dragons having gay sex on the card.
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>>97790583
What is it with you guys and gay dragon sex?
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>>97790276
Edgelords are magic's original audience newfag
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>>97790593
ask wotc
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>>97790573
>Thanos did nothing wrong
Here's a crazy idea. Instead of using the enormous and ridiculous amount of energy and power needed to GENOCIDE half the universe why not...USE IT TO JUST DOUBLE THE RESOURCES HOLY FUCK HE'S A GODDAMN FUCKING MORON
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>>97790593
Ideal male power fantasy.
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>>97790602
I have even better idea
how about
You dont consume garbage marvel slop
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>>97790595
How this announcement will be nowadays?
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>>97790593
>What is it with you guys and gay dragon sex?
It's hot and MTG canon. What's not to love?
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>>97790079
>Mechanically unique cards in limited secret lair event
What could possibly go wrong?
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>>97790593
/tg/ stand for totally gay
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>>97790583
Those are greater elementals you freak.
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>>97790602
Apparently MCU still follows 2nd law of thermodynamics so instead of free unlimited enegy thanos put an enchantment on the universe where the population always get culled to exactly 50% of pre infinity war numbers (referenced in endgame)
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>>97790606
Problematic and chud coded clearly
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>>97790605
I haven't since Endgame. I watched the black widow film. What a piece of shit. I tried to watch the Falcon and Winter Soldier but kept falling asleep. From what I've seen since then it's been nothing but leftist propaganda.
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>>97790611
I want them to fuck up and print a 4x eternal playable in one of those so fucking bad so that they'll get burned down by the mob
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>>97790616
Given the size and scale of the universe I find it extremely hard to believe there aren't enough resources for everyone.
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>>97790633
>you don't know that!!
thanos was the only one who knows that
at least, he was the only one with the will to act on it
>i just like villain protagonists winning, i also think death note ended when L died
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>>97790661
Endgame was a shit film the attosecond time travel was brought in (at the start)
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>>97790633
Anon, the whole point of Thanos is that he cared more about showing how right he was and that killing half the universe was the solution than actually saving the universe.
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Wow Thanos is just like me
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>>97790606
It'd be a black tranny talking about diversity and acceptance and the decks would be MLP
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>>97790670
post infinity war movies suck
after endgame i just watched spiderman 3 for the memberberries didn't even bother with gotg 3, and fucked off
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Imagine being a retarded faggot who cares about comic books
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>>97789199
its called format kindred
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There is salvation for this fucking game?
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>>97790768
There is not
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>>97790768
There is a reason people are hiding on time frozen formats, its over
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>>97790768
Play

Pre

Modern
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>>97790768
You tell me, anon.
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>>97790684
Bro you're not a Malthusian and you can't keep a potted plant alive let alone a crop field
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>>97790728
feel free to talk about the current strixhaven plot that you can't even bear to stomach roru rumao
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>>97790791
The Hobbit™ will surely turn everything around.
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Kinda realized I keep buying MTG despite having no chance to play. I have so many boxes and piles of sealed product I am yet to get through. I have a long box of singles I just haven 't gotten around to.

I think I should just sell off. Most my playgroup has quit or is on an extended break. My LGS is only commander now. The game feels like it's rapidly approaching its explosive downfall. I can easily afford to keep buying MTG as I have for nearly 20 years - but why? Looking at this box of "premium" decks and SLs I just haven't gotten around to just has me wondering why. I bought the LTOR and Dr. Who stuff release day, and here it is just sitting there doing nothing.in this unsorted box of crap on my offices couch
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>>97790782
jokes on you i like closed formats AND commander
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I watched the profs newest video and his big titted friend wasnt there… i wanna see more of the deep voice lady Brian!
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>>97790803
The One Ring will drop by a whopping 5 dollars thanks to the reprint, epic awesome sauce
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>>97790806
>The game feels like it's rapidly approaching its explosive downfall
no need to be so dramatic, you just can't get into commander and you don't have enough time to keep up with current standard/modern/whatever even though you have the disposable income
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>>97790791
>TMNT
>Marvel
>Hobbit films
>Star Trek
If UB are gonna be a thing in any case, would it be too much to ask that they at least aren't based on franchises that were already garbage before becoming associated with MTG?
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Make The One Ring a common so it also ruins Pauper
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>>97790828
eastern IP coming in 2027, trust
>the 2028 lineup is harry potter DC and MK btw
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>>97790842
I don't care which hemisphere an IP originated in, I just want the pile of shit that is UB to stink less.
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>>97790828
>would it be too much to ask that they at least aren't based on franchises that were already garbage before becoming associated with MTG
Yes, because guess what, collabing with currently popular IPs actually costs money. And wotc are greedy jewish bastards
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>>97790865
>currently popular IPs
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and The Hobbit are popular IPs in 2026?
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>>97790872
good morning ESL, try re-reading the post
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>>97790872
reading the post explains the post
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>>97790865
Frieren UB doko? Final Fantasy was the most successful UB because it's anime adjacent.
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>>97790858
>I don't care which hemisphere an IP originated in
you can't deny that the east are making better IP though
their geographical location is just for easy reference because it's lengthy to type 'IPs without leftist idelogy'
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>>97790893
dragonball ip first, gotta have those mexicans
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>>97790872
The reading comprehension skills on this magic anon is worrisome. Is this the future player-base?
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>>97790927
I know a buddy of mine who hates UB will absolutely be compromised if that ever happens.
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>>97790942
I’d buckle if they ever did a Fromsoft collab
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>>97790942
>kamehameha references
>transforming super saiyan cards
>shenron collect all dragon balls instant win
>vegeta's technique
>level up might even just come back, reworked even
the set just builds itself
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>>97790958
Everybody's got that one IP that would just make you oink. For me, it's Elder Scrolls
>return of Planechase, featuring the Realms of Oblivion
VGH
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>>97790595
shame that kid trooned out
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>>97790968
For me it's Elden Ring
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>this ub is ok
this is how pigs are born
>>
>mtg ip is never ok
this is how fags stay salty
>>
Smiling Friends UB when?
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>>97790968
I'd be oinking so hard if we got Berserk. Just the idea of MDFC Godhand and Apostles makes me oink uncontrollably.
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>>97791054
Show off your proxies.
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>>97789800
I don't think so, even with UB out of the picture, the power creep in standard has only getting crazier in the last decade or so
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>>97786344
a coworker tried to wow me with it today at work. he bought the secret lair version. expected it though this dude is
1. gay
2. in a polycule
3. a consuuuuumer
4. yaas queens at the idea of satanism and getting back at those 'evil' christians
I try to be nice, but honestly I'm surprised he hasn't tried to force TMNT on me yet
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>>97791054
just berserker armor alone is enough to sell the entire set
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>>97791069
>Equipped creature has Trample and attacks each turn if able
>During your upkeep, you may pay X life and sacrifice any number of creatures you control. Equipped creature gets +Y/+Y, where Y is life paid plus total CMC of sacrificed creatures
>Tap an Ally you control: tap equipped creature
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>>97790968
Talk for yourself. At this point MtG has become such a parody of itself that even if they made a set about an IP I could find interesting I wouldn't buy a single card.
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>>97790798
You're right, all this Jewish tranny nonsense is goyslop. Read a real book for once.
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>>97791054
Imagine all the rape cards though
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>>97790573
>MCU ended at Infinity War
only truths were told.
>>97790768
yes, but it involves mass firing of company employees.
>>97790806
Buy LCGs from FFG: They have solo play option. Arkham Horror is cool. Lord of the Rings is ok. Marvel slop is not worth it.
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>Premodern has just under 5,400 cards in it. Standard currently has 4200, with about 1200 being added to it this year
PLAY
STANDARD
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>>97791201
>PLAY
>STANDARD
Standard has UBslop.
I refuse to touch UBslop.
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>>97791168
>Read a real book for once
and yet i did, not my fault wotc shat on it
>inb4 lotr isn't a real book
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>>97791130
don't worry we're funding your free to play (F2P) experience of being a proxytard so all's good in the world
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>>97791217
>wotc shat on it
Because Tolkien Estate allowed it. If not encouraged it.
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>>97791282
True, they've made butchering Tolkien's work part of the overall goal.
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>>97791289
But don't forget about the cartoon portrayal where Aragorn was a Native American.
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>>97790595
Edgelords back then were left-wing communists.
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>>97791282
yeah the tolkien estate sucks too and wotc is all too happy to oblige, as to be expected from the modern bong
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>>97791297
that's part of why the cartoon sucks and nobody ever talks about it but (You)
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>>97791311
>pic
Would be true if he said English instead of British.
>>
https://youtu.be/DVgsMgABF4s?t=1050
piggies are RISING UP
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did turtles add any fun new commanders
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>>97791339
I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters
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>>97791316
Dilate it was great.
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>>97791345
why weren't you in prof's video? >>97791337
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>>97791339
go ask there >>97782044
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>>97791373
then so is all of UB cope and seethe
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>>97791381
No.
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>>97791337
I been saying this, but I don't have a harem of passing trannies slobbing my knob, what gives?
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>>97791401
You haven't been saying it loud enough. Or maybe you didn't attend enough final fantasy drafts to run into said trannies.
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>>97791401
That guy isn't having sex with the trannies, he's letting the trannies have sex with his wife in exchange for them making his videos.
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>>97791373
Bakshi has been selling the original animation cels for this for a few years now
https://www.ebay.ca/str/bakshianimationart/Lord-of-the-Rings/_i.html?store_cat=9820371010
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>>97789730
This dood fucks mudbloods
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>I equip black Aragorn with Glock
>I cast Drive By dealing damage equals to his power to all my opps' creatures
>I create a Crack token
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>>97791571
Ayo cuh I cast Stop and Frisk. Sac a creature for each token on the battlefield and discard a card for each creature I control. I kno you ain't try pull dat shit on a nigga.
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>>97791571
>>97791578
You joke but a Grand Theft Auto UB is in the works.
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>>97791301
I have no problem with that as long as they make good art
Modern wotc are left wing communists and I would honestly not care if they didn't make Rin and Seri kinda shit
>>
pre

modern
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>>97791401
>passing
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>>97791790
I only need her to pass from the nose up
>>
gay

bolas
>>
play

commander
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>>97791857
No see it's bad because... well it just is!
>>
planar

standard
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>>97791857
>>97791863
go back to /edhg/
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>>97786491
You mayor banned Chapelle Roan.
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>>97791924
>You mayor banned
Nice English, retard.
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>>97791878
Embrace modernity.
Come back to Commander, /tg/.
Come back home.
>>
Not a single format remains.
They're all shit. Every single one is dead.
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>>97791954
When the fuck was Commander, home?
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>>97791991
when it was called Elder Dragon Highlander
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>>97791954
Edh is fun fucking around but it has politics and weirdness about power level. Whereas 60 card 1v1 you just go hard and play to win. Both have their place.

I wonder is maro is proud of killing modern with his gay ass cards.
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>>97792051
Probably. He's visibly reveled in devaluing Magic-original IP.
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>>97792051
>it has politics
can't really be avoided in a FFA turn based game
>and weirdness about power level.
that's on sheldon, he really thought people could regulate themselves even though he was a lvl5 judge
but time will teach players that brackets are just formats and it's in wotc's best interest to have bracket 2/3 events firing in the near future
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>Premodern is shit
>EDH is shit
>Modern is shit
>Standard is shit
What format DO you actually play?
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>>97792083
limited draft, usually pays of itself by re-selling the money picks
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>>97792083
planar standard and pioneer.... yes i know, shit suck ASS
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>>97792083
fireblasting fools in pauper
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How do troons feel about the Harry Potter set
>>
Trans Bolas
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>>97791065
I try to have empathy but I don’t understand these sorts. It must be a form of selfharm
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>>97792083
>Premodern is shit
But it's not.
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>>97792179
It's great actually. But this general complains about literally every format. So it makes you wonder what format they play themselves, if they play at all...
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>>97792185
/mtg/ is generally containment, only talk of popular fan formats keep it interesting
and is it really a surprise why that is? continuing the seething hatred over what wotc did will not make anyone happy in the end, and this thread is no exception
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I play farmer Thanos and exile your Dwight and you gain 3 life
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>>97792211
Ah shrute. I scoop
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>>97791297
Yeah, but native american is not close to being black american (or african)
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>>97792306
>he doesn't know about the south atlantic trade winds
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>>97790768
they removed the fucking from it so no, there's no salvation anymore
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>>97790806
i understand buying in universe sets and ignoring UB and secret lair slop to vote with your wallet, but come on dude, you're not a mindless consooomer, you can do better than that pic you posted.
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>>97791863
>40 life in a game where most cards are balanced around 20 life
>99 card singleton decks in a game where cards are balanced around having 4 copies of each AND cards like Battle of Wits exist
>the retarded commander damage rule
>the even more retarded having the same card always available in the extradeck for fucks sake this is Magic not yuGAYoh
it is bad, no more need to debate this. if there were never any Commander products and it kept being a silly side mode that didn't work because the cards weren't balanced for it, it would've been better than the current slop of every deck using the same cards
>>
vivi/sewer veillance cam decks are the new most annoying deck in the world to play against.

that is all.
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>>97791954
>using fomo lair mechanically unique card as the poster child of your format
many things are not this grim
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>>97792792
Crusade is an anthem that will never be printed again as is so it makes sense that the analog is Rick, an anthem that will also never be printed again as is
>>
Now that we all agree that ub is gay and tasteless and the magic story has been shit for many a moon can we instead get sets that are just direct rips and represantations of historical periods without the fantasy pretense?
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>>97792878
That's called portal 3 kingdoms newfag
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>>97792885
I know. We need more of that.
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>>97792878
>>97792885
Arabian Nights Let's goooo
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>>97792083
Play..?
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>>97792083
Draft, Sealed, Cube, Jumpstart, Jumpstart Cube (practically inevitable after playing enough Jumpstart)
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>>97792083
Pioneer.
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>>97786111
>tfw want this card just to force niggas to subnetting
what other cards are going in the IT magic deck
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>>97792083
Pioneer, avoiding ub as much as I can. Haven't bought or interacted with turtles.
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Imagine a world where maro's gay little retarded opinion on arabian nights never affected the game and we got king arthur expansions and shit
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>>97793268
>we got king arthur expansions
That was Eldraine
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>>97793323
I don't recall King Arthur marrying a nigger
>>
I like the Eldraine sets. They have fun mechanics and whimsy artwork.
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>>97793354
Why are niggers living rent free in your head.
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>>97793393
Need a merfolk gf so bad
>>
Would underwater blowjobs count as mouth to dick resuscitation?
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>>97793385
FUCK ELDRAINE
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>>97793393
They're living rent free in my cardboard
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>>97792878
Yes.
>>
I literally stopped playing
Turtles broke the camel's back
>>
Only turtle card I've seen played in Pioneer.
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>>97790791
damn this year really sucks ass for magic sets lmfao.
if it was only 2 UB sets a year and they were actually good IPs it'd be fine, but the fucking hobbit? star trek? the only people who give a shit about star trek are dead now.
Dark Souls, Berserk, Dune, Dragon Ball would be cool though.
Would be funny to see Pokemon or Yugioh UB too though it would never happen
>>
I’m saving all my money on the dogshit sets this year and blowing it all on Star Trek
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>>97793713
based
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>>97793713
*gives u gay klingon and black Picard*
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>>97787821
>account location: Mumbai
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>>97793729
No. Black Picard is not possible because he doesn't exist, and it's based on the tv series.
Gay Klingon, on the other hand...
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>>97793713
Extremely smart decision.
Why are you not like this anon, fags?
Picard, best of Federation, Captain of the Enterprise will make this game great again.
>>
The shilling begins…………
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>>97793679
this year will mean the death for this game. people are already struggling with turtles when we soon will have more marvel garbage, the horrendous pace of new sets and the underwhelming quality of these ub franchises will lead to massive losses.
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>>97793788
>we soon will have more marvel garbage
as much as I despise marvel, I think we all know it'll likely sell more than any other UB set..
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There are only 3 sets coming out this year and you can't convince me otherwise.
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>>97793787
Shilling doesn't mean what you think it means, we've been through this.
To spare us both going back and forth through the dictionary, I am not impartial.
I am not neutral, I do not pretend to be. I love Star Trek. Though mostly TOS TNG DS9.
The UB ship has sailed and there's no coming back, without Hasbro going under. So you might as well try and find a silver lining.
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>pls guys i love UB pls are u ragebaited yet pls bros r u seething! I LOVE THE THING YOU HATE DOESNT IT MAKE YOU MAD?
if UB weren't overly powercrept and badly designed sets, i wouldn't mind
i am just tired, anon
tired that i cannot play the game because the game plays itself
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>agatha's cauldron
>needs to exile a creature from a grave and have a creature on board to put a counter on to fully utilize the effect
>the ooze
>lol just banish any card and make a token
>also any creature with +1+1 counters make a token for each counter when they die lmao
fuck this shit
seriously
>>
>>97793823
>if UB weren't
If UB weren't primarily designed with EDH in mind.
LTR wasn't. Despite few mistakes, it was fun.
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>>97793845
Well unfortunately the fun parts of it did not linger very long while we still got literally 3 fucking years of TOR and still have the utter retardation that is Bowmasters.
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>>97793771
if i wanted star trek i'd play any of the trek board games like Ascendacy or Captain's Chair. I play magic for the MAGIC, not for sci-fi nonsense from that one tv show.
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>>97793875
Yeah! Praise this non-Sci-Fi setting! Like this totally fantastical golem!
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>>97793879
>2025
do i really have to spell everything out for you? or can you learn to read subtext and implications in the image I posted?
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>>97793889
The subtext is you are a macaco? Or that you just don't play MTG anymore?
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>>97793875
>muh real Magic
Bro what year do you think it is?
>>
The self-hating Brazilian is at it again...
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>>97793897
Yes, I don't buy new MTG packs or cards anymore because it stopped being what I liked and became pandering for Commander-fags and the normies. Next time figure it out before pressing the post button with your silly ragebait.
>>97793907
I still have my cube I'm drafting with my friends, so I don't care about your "get with the times grandpa" pathetic attempts at peer pressure.
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>>97793879
EoE was a only a test set for Star Trek. No other purpose than test the waters before making that shitty TV show into a real Magic set.
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>>97793928
But you are incredibly butthurt at Star Trek saving Magic? Quite illogical
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>>97793973
Saving it from what?????
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>>97793973
How can it save Magic when it can't even BE Magic? If it's not Magic it's not saving Magic, see also the last few years of "official MTG product".
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>>97793879
Wizards fucked around with Sci-Fi ideas before, anon.
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>"yeah "our" game doesn't get new players because it is complex™ but it's really FUN and HYPE please play "our" game or you just hate fun you low iq bigot who hates fun and has no friends! OUR GAME IS FUN AND GOOD; GOT IT?!!"
Why does every game that fucked their shit up so badly that it's dying, always have piggies that say this exact shit?
No, pigger, "your" game isn't complex because you can trigger 6 million permanents after spamming 20 million tokens with one card, after your opponent has no removal because he had to answer your every single nuke in your starting hand; the game just fucking sucks and no one who has an ounce of self-respect wants to play it.

It's like the meth addict trying to convince other to do meth, while also calling them filthy purists for not wanting to smoke chemicals that will eat your face.
>>
>>97794077
word
i miss when the complexity of the game was "there's so many viable decks and no-one is too popular so you're never quite sure what your opponent is cooking", now the main question of the game is "how big is your wallet?" and it sucks
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>>97794090
eh, but the main question is actually
>do you have the out?
that's what every game has turned into
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>>97794077
Thought this was about Artifact.
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>>97794219
i actually was meaning ygo due to the last cardmarket vid that got posted here

but it's insane how you can practically say that about any games now
>>
Do you like adventures?
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>>97794231
Magic is worse because the card is designed to be retard-proof so there isn't even a chance your opponent fucks up.
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>>97794219
eh to be fair to shartifact it's had alright gameplay ideas but a horrible monetization scheme, which is wild considering how successful DotA 2 and TF2 and CSGO monetization was. And then after the horrible first impression nobody wanted anything to do with it ever again, and it didn't even get a second set of cards.
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>>97794246
yes, unironically one of the most kino mechanics this fucking company ever made.
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>>97794276
>_____ is retard proof so that retards can't fuck up and thus buy more product by being delivered the illusion of skill by virtue of winning coinflips
good job, you just described 90% of modern games

i am tired
i crave engaging games so much i might accidentally stumble upon stable cold fusion while jerking off
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>>97792083
I play pioneer on arena, mostly phoenix and niv to light
crazy to think both decks are over half a decade old by now, they still feel brand new to me
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>>97794302
I genuinely have a text file lying around somewhere that dives into every single mistake Artifact made from its development, to its prerelease marketing, to its gameplay. I planned on making it into a video essay but:
>I have a terrible speaking voice
>It would be over 3 hours
>I did not want to rehash all my bullet points and information into a script
>It would get 10 views if I was lucky because nobody gives a shit about the game anymore
But to be clear the gameplay was not "alright". The very first set had ABU-tier design mistakes that made you wonder what the fuck they were thinking (ironically Axe was not even close to the biggest one). People just cope that it had depth if you stuck with it until you were top 1% or understood the game or whatever, but even once you knew all the mechanics the game was genuinely miserable because it was the worst parts of YGO, Pokemon, and Magic all rolled into one game with arrogant marketing that sold the lie this made the gameplay deep.
This isn't even getting into all the internal development issues the game had which I uncovered after interviewing a few developers. There was zero chance this game became successful because of how many systemic issues there were behind the scenes that would have made it collapse within a year even if it released as a smash hit.
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everything is so fucking brain dead now
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>>97794363
>i have a text file to do a vid essay
i just do my essay here on 4chan because telling pigs to tilt their necks up is genuinely more of a waste of time and effort than screaming into a cum filled void
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Does StatTrek even have actual fans?
Few episodes i saw were dogshit and boring, i strongly consider it one of the worst sci fi ever made (close to orville).
I understand that it gets insane amount of points because it was first sci fi show ever made, but who cares about this in 2026?
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>>97794393
>Firefly
LMAOOOOOOO
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i started watching star trek ng then just got bored
yeah sure, back then it was a banger for sure, but now it's mostly nostalgia exactly like star wars
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>>97794411
I unironically prefer Firefly over Star Trek.
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>>97794363
You're probably right, I never actualy got to play it before it was reworked and put into whatever state it's in now so my knowledge of just how bad it was is limited and my optimism takes over where my knowledge lacks.
You should put the file into pastebin or something, sounds like it's a good read.
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>>97794302
There wasn't any problem with the monetization. The gameplay was absurdly garbage.
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>>97794457
yes there was. all other valve games give you a free trial of every gameplay feature, and the paid part is the cosmetics. in artifact you had to pay for the base components (the cards) and there were minimal cosmetics for them. it's completely backwards to how their other games operate and who the fuck okayed it back in the drawing board stage?
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>>97794457
Remember it launched in the era immediately after every gamedev and their mother was making a F2P card game trailing Hearthstone's success. Theoretically Artifact's monetization could have worked at some point, but absolutely not when industry standard was set at Hearthstone so players generally expected you wouldn't need to shell out $50+ for a deck (oh, and pay per match. Forget that part?)
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>>97794481
You need to understand, dota was literally at the peak of popularity when artifact launched (actually it was 2 years away from future peak but still insane numbers). They thought the name DOta + Garfield alone would carry the game into popularity.
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>>97794481
Buying cards in TCGs is normal. And unlike most digital TCGs you could trade and sell cards.
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>>97793845
>orcish bowmasters
>the one ring
absolute delusion
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>the card game has card game monetization
artifact died because people are retarded and most people dont even know what magic the gathering is which is why they were confused at having to pay for cards
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>>97794502
Magic makes you pay to play every game of constructed AFTER you already had your deck?
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>>97794506
unironically yes
Unless you art talking about kitchen magic/casual or ranked games in arena.
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>>97794502
>>97794506
You were given a set of beginning cards and you only had to pay to play ranked, playing in general did not cost anything. I assure you, the completely retarded gameplay is why it was dead on arrival, not monetization. If the gameplay was good, it'd still be alive today.
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monetization is never an issue if the game is good and worth putting money in
if the game sucks then monetization is always the first thing normies blame because they don't know any better
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>>97794527
a game can be shit for all the reasons, no need to pick and choose. this is not a science esperiment, we don't need to eliminate confounding factors, some hated one part of it some hated another and that about covered most of the potential player base. the rest were left in a deserted husk and the devs quit right after.
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>>97794534
Really shit games can get away with it if they're cheap. See: Gachashit being """free""".
A game demanding MtG's pricetag would need to be a product designed by mandate of heaven to succeed.
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>>97794536
I'm disregarding the monetization because it's effectively irrelevant. If it would still be alive today, if the gameplay was good, then the monetization didn't matter. There's plenty of Valve fans and TCG players who don't mind spending money.

I feel like you don't understand just how bad the game was.
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for you to make me pay money for your game it must be A) fun and B) good, if any of those points or both can't be associated with your game then don't even dare ask for a penny from me.
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>>97794549
Okay get this.
The game was absolute garbage. Legitimately one of the worst games ever made from a major studio.
AND
It was monetized like shit.
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If you people think monetization was the problem than why did LOR died? It literally had the most generous monetization from all TCG?
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>>97794573
LoR was quite ironically still designed better than Artifact.
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>>97794590
Unironically no
Riot tried to hard to keep powercreep in check so cards that represented "THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN RUNETERRA" were on the level of mtg uncommons.
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>>97794560
The monetization was fine. It even had the big positive of being able to trade and sell cards easily.
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>>97794573
i just hated runterra's gameplay. and, it's a Riot product. They couldn't even make a MOBA where you get all the characters for free, I wouldn't trust them to monetize a ham sandwich.
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>>97794604
gramps, MTGO is a relic of the past and should stay in the past. Copying it does not make for good monetization, especially with Steam Marketplace taking a flat cut from every trade made.
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>>97794598
I'd prefer that to every other Artifact card being something designed by a Commander player.
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>>97794615
MTGO should already die and be replaced by something similar to Arena, but that would take an amount of work no one seems interested to do, even more considering the amount of shit WotC is doing lately with this game.
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>Middling charm cycle
>Instants and sorceries [cost reduction]
>Worse Mana Drain
>Prepared is just a soda fountain for powerful instants and sorceries
>Haha funny exponent!
Why is Strixhaven like this? I don't hate the concept of a magic school, but it's always just "here's a cool thing you can do with instants and sorceries", but the instants and sorceries in the actual set were really boring. Learning was kinda interesting, but it was clearly designed to now do anything too broken in a format where Omnath, Oko, Uro and companions were supposed to be legal. The only spells I remember seeing play were Izzetslop.
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>>97794246
I like them. Very flavorful.
>adventures
>bargains
>roles
>FOOD
Eldraine has introduced some cool shit in general.
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>>97794615
>muh steam cut
As opposed to Arena or Hearthstone where your money vanishes into the ether for cards that you can never trade or sell.
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>>97794986
What money? I spent $0 on Hearthstone.
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white schizo would rather scream kikes instead putting in work
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Where is "Ward - You Lose the Game"
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>>97795021
They're already willing to give Hexproof to 3-drops.
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>>97795021
Its on valgavoth
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>>97794874
You know the funny part is that creatureslop is so overloaded now this set probably won't make a dent in any format.
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>>97795021
>The most interesting ward effect is just a proxy for "Sacrifice a creature"
They need to print a ward effect like this on something that doesn't turn things into food tokens. Imagine a greedy king that has "Ward - Sacrifice a Treasure", I think that would be really cool.
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>>97795002
>not understanding how "F2P" works
You paid with hours of your time instead. F2P games use F2P players as fodder to fill the game out and as prey for paying players.
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>>97795021
Concede is right click.
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>>97795079
Cool and of course Magic would never waste my time for no reason or start inflating costs.
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>>97795079
Weird, because I don't think Hearthstone ever charged me $200 to not lose every game of Standard.
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>>97795113
We're talking about Artifact's monetization system retard.

In Artifact you paid $20 to buy the game. You were given 10 packs and 5 event tickets. Event tickets cost $1. They were used to enter ranked constructed or draft and got packs for winning.

Your cards could be sold or traded amongst friends or randoms on steam. You could also purchase singles off the steam marketplace then later sell or trade those cards.

Frankly it was far more honest than a F2P model.
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>>97795117
I'm not defending Arena dumbass. And you don't need to spend $200 on packs to win games in standard.
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>>97795165
No, I'm comparing Magic (your argument) to Hearthstone. Only one of those games expects a car payment as price of entry.
>But you can just play budget decks for $80! Look at pauper!
The budget deck in Hearthstone also costs $0 and takes 30 minutes of my time to make.
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No way this shit is not AI generated
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>>97795178
No. I was comparing Artifact to Hearthstone and Arena.

By the way, you linked paper decks. Those cards can be sold to recoup the cost. Or given to other people, or traded for other cards or hell other items entirely like a Steam Deck (TM).
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>>97795213
>Those cards can be sold to recoup costs
No they can't retard every single set release (7 times a year btw) you're gambling if they'll plummet to 10% of their value. Modern used to be a format you could argue this for then WotC took a shit on that too with LTR and MH.
Fucking financeheads really willing to cope defending a primary reason a game tanked.
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>>97795224
Ah, you just want to seethe and aren't actually engaging with my point about Artifact.
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>>97795158
Okay and what if my goal is to actually play the game instead of gambling?
>Hearthstone worst possible pulls (0.01% odds)
2375 dust (150% of any card)
>Artifact worst possible pulls (never published because game died before it could be regulated)
Eat shit nigger lmao
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>>97795205
Even if you were a tmnt fan, is that really what you'd be hoping for for art for supreme verdict?
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>>97795158
>10 packs 5 event tickets
Ah ah ah, that's the revised purchase package.
On release you got ZERO event tickets.
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>>97795261
>don't want to gamble
That's great because you don't have to. You can buy singles. You can also be given cards by other people.
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>>97795291
Okay where was my option to not buy the intro packs then?
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>>97795284
They're $1 and they're only needed for ranked constructed and ranked draft which give you cards that are worth actual money.
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>>97795305
>Spend $20 on game
>Can't play ranked without spending $1 per session
>This is somehow a better model than anything
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>>97795301
Meaning, why didn't they just let you download the game but have a completely empty account with no way to play the game? I suppose they could have done that but it's a bit awkward.
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>>97795316
>ranked constructed and ranked draft which give you cards that are worth actual money
Yes it's better.
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>>97795327
Oh yeah because when I open 10 Magic packs those cards will definitely result in a constructed-playable deck. Yeah I'm glad I was forced to spend $20 on chaff I will never be able to sell.
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>>97795339
>Magic
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>>97795339
>when I open 10 Magic packs those cards will definitely result in a constructed-playable deck
It's 6 packs and that's called Sealed format, yes. I know you guys are talking about Artifact, but some of you treat these games as a way to make money and not as actual games. Nobody boots up World of Warcraft and thinks to themselves "how can I make back my subscription fee?"
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>>97795352
Artifact got me so angry I'm losing coherent thought. I hate that game.
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>>97795205
No, if an artist does traditional paintings on canvas I doubt they do AI shit.
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>>97795367
>Artifact got me so angry
Weird desu after every artifact game i felt baffled, the games literally felt like work, and after i was done i constantly asked myself "Is it possible that doing my ACTUAL JOB, creating excelt spreadsheets and shit is more fun?"
The answer was unironically Yes
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>>97795279
YES anon, all turtles is is pizza! like how sonic is just chilidogs
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>>97795366
In Magic I'm given the option to not play Sealed if I don't like it.
In Artifact you were forced to spend $20 on packs before even booting up the game, and had to pay further if you wanted to play ranked, or ANY limited format.
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>>97795380
>Is it possible that doing my ACTUAL JOB, creating excelt spreadsheets and shit is more fun
How I felt playing Arena
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>>97795380
Yes, the actual game itself was awful. Truly bizarre game design choices.

>>97795386
The reason they start you with 10 packs is obvious. So 90% of the players, casuals, go "Oh here are cards I have. This is what they look like. I can now tinker with setting up a deck and play immediately." Instead of an empty account.
>and had to pay further if you wanted to play ranked, or ANY limited format.
Yes, because the cards you win in those modes are worth actual money.
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>>97795381
Sonic only sells two types of chili dog though.
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>>97791373
The atmosphere in this movie is 10 times better then PJ's movies.
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>>97789199
Retro Yugioh, MTG, and getting into Sorcery. Looks very cool, the artwork is incredible.
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>>97794502
Artifact died because Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
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>>97795230
not that anon but he is right. prices on MTGO are not as stable as you might think, who says Artifact will be the same? look at how the prices of knife skins dropped in CS2 when they introduced crafting. imagine buying virtual cards and then the price fucking plummets because womp womp new update cards can be crafted now. how horrifying.



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