How the fuck are the Lord of the Rings wargame minis still getting made? Those movies were 20 years ago.
>>97805226It's actually GW's best game.
>>97805226Because that trilogy has proven to be a timeless epic.
>>97805226>How the fuck are warhammer 40k wargames minis still getting made? That game is 39 years old?To answer your question. Easy. Supply & demand. People who watched those movies as kids or teens are now in their 30s to 40s. That usually means they have money to burn.
>>978052261. I see you watched the newest Poorhammer video. I should remind you that those fags are quite stupid and have shit taste on a number of topics.2. Lord of the Rings is truly evergreen. People in the year 5000 will still read it and think it's amazing. It is not going to go away, not while humanity exists.
>>97805233>>97805264Fpbp and spbp and /thread
>>97805226The latest releases are tie-ins for that Netflix girlboss thing that they assumed would have more than zero impact. It's a dead product line and the newest version of the ruleset removed some options for models they used to sell but don't any more (like armoured Celeborn). The game has very good core rules but is hampered by the very scenario-specific army building with limited options. It never matured into a true wargame. This is never going to get better because why would they invest more into a licensed IP they have no control over? At peak popularity they were releasing 25% banger sculpts and 75% pure garbage, which then had to survive the finecast transition and phaseout. Can't have rules for something they don't sell for legal/copyright reasons.I started painting some old metal Lothlorien elves just the other day. Such great sculpts.
>>97805615I also bought some 3d printed knockoff elves. I think this was the dude that threw a tantrum when GW sent him a cease and desist and an offer of a job.
>>97805321How do YOU know about the Poorhammer video, anon?
>>97805615>The game has very good core rules but is hampered by the very scenario-specific army building with limited options. It never matured into a true wargame.Why would you immediately contradict yourself like that?
>>97805986I didn't, ESL-anon
>>97806141ntayrt They're saying something like >true wargames focus on scenario specific conflicts often with asymmetrical and limited options thus >The game has very good core rules but is self contradictory. Now that I have explained the joke, you can go back to calling each other fags.
>>97805233flippy bippy
>>97805226GW doesn't want to lose the rights as it would mean losing a revenue stream
Does /tg/ prefer bisexual icon Samwise Gamgee with or without the frying pan?
>>97805226>Those movies were 20 years ago.The books were 50 years prior to that
>>97805321They definitely have the worst taste. Imagine complaining about marines when you both play pseudo marines.
It's a solid ruleset but I think a lot of the sales are to people who like Tolkien and mini painting but don't necessarily play the game. I've noticed a big resurgence of interest in the books and movies starting during the Covid era. It was fun to read edgeslop like Game of Thrones in the 2000's but now that we're tettering on the edge of economic collapse(oil prices, AI layoffs, etc) people want a nice uplifting high fantasy story again. They really should do a Last Alliance battle box with a revamped Sauron, Rivendell, and Gil-Galad. I bet that would sell like hotcakes. We're coming up on the 25th anniversary of Fellowship after all.
>>97805226Their Ragadast design was better than their movie.
>>97806694Samwise went home and had a dozen kids with prime hobbit pussy, dude was straightTo use your own terms against you: It is toxic masculinity to imply two straight guys can't love each other platonically.
>>97809477>Samwise went home and had a dozen kids with prime hobbit pussyHe deserved it as well with all the shit he had to go through.
>>97805321I like poorhammer mostly for being 40K fans that aren't mentally cooked marine fags complaining that Primaris ruined the setting by having a different kneepad. Also they are correct that Lotr fags should read a second book. Not fantasy though, 99% of fantasy outside Lotr is trash.
>>97805226These are still in pretty high demand
>>97807293>people want a nice uplifting high fantasy story again.People want a actual revolutionary story. Game of Thrones burned out because it couldn't commit in the end and basically ended with "Everything is fine because it's just replicating our current status quo" in the form of a elected oligarchical monarch instead of something more interesting like total societal collapse.
>>97807293>and Gil-Galad.movie design gil galad was bad, and tv show version is even worse. divorced middle aged dad energy.
>>97809611>I like poorhammer mostly for being 40K fansThey're MTG fans who pivoted for views.
>>97809693Don't care since their 40K content is fun.
>>97805226>LotR films are still very popular (the recent anniversary showings at my local big chain cinema were almost completely booked up and there were a hell of a lot of them for an anniversary release)>enough people still buy the models for the game to be profitable>plus IIRC the licencing deal they got was crazy good and they get to keep it going forever as long as they keep releasing new products every so oftenPlus always bear in mind that while GW has a reputation for being ruthlessly corporate with its main games there are still a lot of the old guard classical nerds knocking around in the leadership structure and they're the ones responsible for stuff like resurrecting Blood Bowl, Necromunda, and The Old World and then generally speaking running those games in a completely different way to how the main design studio runs 40k/AoS.
>>97805615It’s more of a wargame than AoS or 40k, which comparatively play and feel like board games. It has the best ruleset of any gw game they currently sell.
>>97805226It’s funny how in the poorhammer video one guy mentions he starts scrolling discord during the MESBG section not to fall asleep and the other starts looking for dudes on hinge. Then they say the books aren’t that good. Books that have spawned literal professions in academia to study them. Shit taste as usual, in the case of the gay one, probably literal shit in his mouth from his last sexual encounter.
Im convinced the actual higher up suits at GW actually don’t care about Warhammer and truly only care about LOTR
>>97809693this is very evident. combined at least the one is such a massive consumer (>5k in GW plastic) its hard to get a good take. >>97809699i just wish they would edit it more. i dont know if im just too old for internet content now, but i really dont enjoy podcast/podcast styled videos where 2 guys talk about anything without organization or tight editing. i don't want vine 6 second flashes just a nice in between, with the information being processed and refined into something interesting. I get this skips the parasocial relationship that they try really hard to foster, but i want information and opinions, i already have real friends.
>>97805226Man it really is weird how especially the 40k babies have massive hate boner for this game for some reason. Like every time I watch some reveal show and MESBG is represented, the chat shits and pisses itself with revulsion. I don't play the game personally but I've heard only good things about it and the people who play it which I personally know are some of the nicest guys you can meet in the wargaming space.
>getting worked by the Aussie rage-baitersNGMI
>>97810744It's a shame the system is trapped in a licensed product twenty years past its prime. With wider model ranges and fewer soup armies fucking up the balance it could still compete with the right support. But GW has far more to gain by hoping AOS takes off as they don't have to pay royalties or run designs past the licence holders.
>>97810777Not sure if it makes it better, but the hinge comment was about some goon-bait vtuber they’ve been collab-ing with recently. The guy you’re referring to is just a foot-fetishist
>>97805226nigga a lot of Lord the Rings traditional games slap ass and still get played today.
>>97805226The movies were that good (still not as good as the books) and the game was great for 20 years, and is till pretty good.>>97810744One day I'll sit down and make an effortpost about how 90% of the complaints about 40k and AOS stem from the fact that neither are true wargames but not today. I do wish this was talked about more.
>>97811706That game has some of the best LOTR art. And some of the worst, particularly in the later sets.
>>97805321stopped watching them after the vtuber shit. Vince Venturella is on thin fucking ice for having that one annoying fuck in his thumbnail
>>97811922>(still not as good as the books)After having heard that Tolkien wrote the hobby as a sort of bedime story for his son, I got the audiobooks and had a great time painting fantasy stuff with them for background. LOTR really was made to be told, not just read.
>>97805321You can't be that hard on them if you remember that they started playing the game in like 2017 (after it was ruined). They never got to experience GOOD 40k. >>97809693>They're MTG fans who pivoted for views.That makes SO much fucking sense. Their severe "old bad new good" skew with everything from sculpts to balance changes / wanting even faster rules update churn than the absurd speed we currently have speaks to a MTG mindset of "fix the current fucked meta with the new set!" of every CCG out there.
>>97817866>old bad new goodThis is why I like them though.
>Those movies were 20 years ago.They regularly sell Tolkien books at my workplace next to bibles and reprinted classics and copies of the constitution or art of war. Not just Tolkien, but Middle-Earth encyclopedias.Tolkien is unironically arguably a part of western culture at this point, or respected on a literary standard
>>9780522625* years for Fellowship. The movie trilogy is legitimately so good and in the sweet spot of coming out before Cinematic Universe slop, but after the booming rise of CGI getting good. It remains epic, influential, with legendary behind the scenes moments, and a common entry point for getting into movies, fantasy, storytelling, reading, or games in this case.It also doesn't hurt that Tolkien is almost more influential to modern books than Shakespeare. The actual game is okay. I think there is enough of a collector/player base that just buys a couple of minis every once in a while to keep things going, and the upkeeping the contract with a release like 1-4 times a year is lucrative in comparison to letting the contrast expire.
