The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>97803835>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:So yeah about those new rumours
Soooooonnnn....
>the whole period from the end times to the last world is called the age of myth nowit's a small pet peeve of mine, but I'm thankful it was handled this way
>>97809315>>97809324>Less than 5 minutes apartThe fact Kurnothi anon makes these threads suddenly fills me with a desire to not interact with them...
>>97809315>>Thread question:>So yeah about those new rumourskeeping them linked >>97809087>>97809092>>97809257gotta change the prediction of the map with the new info
>>97809335But how does the sun work now?
>>97809335I guess the Not Cathay is going to be pretty different from TOW Cathay, whith it being Yuan/Qing inspired, which was something Cathay in TOW purposefully avoided due to sensitivity readers
>>97809351It is either just a sun created by the Slann or it's a special character locked forever in agonising pain
>>97809352>the unfittingly good and noble cathayans of the old world became stereotypically evil and cruel snakeoil worshippers when their dragons died in the end times
>>97809351fingers crossed for ignax getting forced to become the sun again
>>97809333I can assure you I'm not the kurnithiposter>>97809351Guessing some remnants of azyr will serve as the sun and other stars
>>97809324You alreay got 2 kits released last year
I kinda feel nothing towards these rumors. I guess I’ll just have to see when or if they do get published. But yeah this kinda reads like bad fan fiction.
Doot
Will Nagash and OBR still be around in 5th edition?
I think the new lore reads great. A shame about all the name characters like Tahlia, but this type of lore will appeal to the masses way more than the mortal realms. And the fact that we will have already stablished cities and maps means that people will actually care about the lore from the beginning unlike AoS1.
>>97809465(You)
So, warhammer: elden ring?
You're comming off as realy desperate spamming this
>>97809465>appeal to the massesWhen was this ever a good thing?
AboutDestruction — not much has really changed-Over on the main continent, in the part that used to be Ghur, you’ve got the Ogors, Orruks, and Gitz all hanging out there (though the different subfactions are separated — like Moonclan and Gitmob aren’t in the same area). -Kragnos is free again on this continent and hasbeen out rampagingHe’s teamed up with the Ogors’ Big Tyrant, helping this powerful female Big Tyrant claim more land-The Sons of Behemat, meanwhile, are over on another continent, causing trouble for Nurgle, CoS, and SylvanethAs for Death — again, nomajor shakeups-The Nighthaunt still have their kingdom, the Ossiarch still have theirs, and the FECare a little different: all their various factions are now in one region, rallying under Summer King Ushoran as their sole leader-The FEC have even come into conflict with the Kingdom of Lorennar, since both factions are all about that knightly code-Vampires, on the other hand, are scattered across continents, with each ruler bringing their own flavor to the mixNow for the Skaven — they’re on the main continentRemember what I said earlier? The main continent is made up of Aqshy, Ghur, and Chamon mashed together, so The Gnaw is also part of it as a massive landmassThe Skaven’s territory is absolutely massive and they’re right next to the Sigmarite ProtectoratesNear the Gnaw, you’ve got the borderlands between Aqshy and Chamon — that’s where the Kharadron operateThey’re neighbors to the Khazalid Holds (which includes the Fyreslayers), and also right next to the HelsmithsSo yeah, the Duardin are basically sandwiched between Skaven and Hashut>even in the last world aqshy and ghur are still the main realmsLmao
>>97809488When this is revealed to be an April Fools tomorrow all of you are going to look like colossal fucking retards lmfao
>>97809462Probably, they got new models this edition which makes it an 80% chance they aren't randomly squatted
>>97809462Nagash probablyObr definitelyNo models will be squatted apparently, though certain mortal characters might get genericed (like e.g. belegar becoming a generic oath king in AoS)>>97809552Didn't the tomb kings get a bunch of kits in 8th edition? Like the sphinxes and elite skeletons?
so the 40k-ification of fantasy will finally be concluded. we had a good run, but we'll be grimderp soon
https://youtu.be/-qe54-ZOkC4Thread theme I guess.
>>97809488this sounds like utter dogshit, I hope this is a joke
>>97809534>this powerful female Big Tyrant claim more landassuming the ogre release is coming before this mess, are they going to turn the special characters into generic characters immediately? are they all going to be 1000+ years old?almost all characters are some kind of immortal being, are the only casualties going to be the ven denst, callis and toll, and the new anvilgard revenger?
>>97809697>ven denst,big shame if true, I actually really liked them.
>>97809697I'm gong to guess that most of these characters will live, outside of CoS. The rumors hint at some bullshit happening with some of them, like Tahlia being dead but the current faction leader being like a reincarnation of her, so replace Tahlia with Cahlia or whatever the fuck.
>>97809534>Vampires, on the other hand, are scattered across continents, with each ruler bringing their own flavor to the mixSoon
>>97809633>this sounds like utter dogshit,Sounds like nu-gw
>>97809800sounds like what kirby originally envisioned for AoS. I thought we were past that shit
>>97809633Believe it or not that's the good version. We had even shittier rumours posted earlier.
>>97809315With the Realms turning into stitched up continents, will the winds of magic in their classical/whfb form be back ? With Storms of magic as well ?
>>97809488>And finally, four new factions appear on different parts of the map, each with their own concept art:>Karujin (not-Grand Cathay) (We believe this is the Yuan Dynasty of China) >Kingdom of Lorennar (not-Bretonnia) >Hanzor Fiefdoms (not-Nippon) >Ursal Chiefdoms (not-Kislev) I still feel like this is the weirdest part of all
>>97809821qrd ?
>>97809881Unless new bretonia is just order of the furrow I don’t care. I want them to be the knights of saint Lazarus but with bushes and flowers growing on them, more symbiosis with nature in a literal organic sense really. Anything else is just lame.
>>97809884AoS in its inception was designed to turn WHF into fantasy 40k, because the then CEO of GW believed it was the most profitable thing to do with their fantasy IP. Thankfully, he stepped down shortly after the introduction of AoS, which left more space for designers to turn it into its own thing distinct from the themes of 40k. Now, this change appears to return to the original idea of turning AoS into the grimdark fantasy setting that it was originally meant to be.
>>97809881Still just reads to me as "GW will release a PDF with rules for playing your TOW armies in AoS with some basic bitch lore in the Core Book to smooth it over"
>>97809972Sounds like you’re coping.
>>97809488>Endless Spells still exist - no changes hereAll my hopes and dreams shattered.
>>97809981Coping would imply I give a shit, which I don't. It's just the most realistic explanation.TOW already literally has legacy rules to let you play AoS armies using models that are only sold for AoS, no reason 5th edition can't do the same for TOW players.
>>97809972But why would they do that?
>>97809997Models are simply incompatible with each other. It’s not even aesthetic choices, most stuff in Aos don’t rank well or at all in tow, and tow stuff just doesn’t fit well in Aos because of the size differences.
>>97809997>TOW already literally has legacy rules to let you play AoS armiesto play old WFB armies, it's not like GW provide legacy rules for Nighthuant or Lumineth Realm-lords in TOW
>>97809881With all those major releases that would take 2+ years after the starter to have waves 1. GW literally doesn't work this far ahead, they do not have 2030 releases prepared
>>97810025might as well give legacy rules to unit concepts from aos that could have existed in the old world
>>97809315>TQI guess the people that wanted a new human faction are happy now. I still find it super weird
>>97810010>But why would they do that?Why not? Look at those faction names again, it's literally>Chinese Chang Changs>French Knight Frenchies>Hanzo Steel Samurai-kuns>Russia Bear SlavsThese are not indicative of subtle reinterpretations of TOW armies in an AoS style, it's literally just the same armies run through a word filter down to exact same on the nose cultural expectations. I'm telling you, it's just gonna be a copy paste. People act like GW making a hard split between TOW and AoS while TOW was still new and proving itself as someone kind of unchangeable divine mandate and not just some retarded corporate bullshit that can be reversed just as easily.
>>97810025They could if they wanted to. I think you're putting a little too much weight into corporate directives as unchangeable natural laws of the universe.
>>97810052>People act like GW making a hard split between TOW and AoS while TOW was still new and proving itself as someone kind of unchangeable divine mandate and not just some retarded corporate bullshit that can be reversed just as easily.Its a matter of game compatibility at the end of the day, because at that point why not just allow 40k stuff in both games? Or go a step further and let in lotr stuff?
>>97810010To sell toys
>>97810062>They could if they wanted to.yeah but they're not, so they don't want to?
>>97809537>When this is revealed to be an April Fools tomorrow all of you are going to look like colossal fucking retards lmfaoNot how April Fools works.
>>97810071>because at that point why not just allow 40k stuff in both games?It's been done before. AoS and 40K still literally share some models. >LOTR stuffThat one is licensed and in a different scale, obviously a different case
>>97810088>AoS and 40K still literally share some models.Not for long!
>>97809335Not gonna lie - as a life-long AoS hater I am intrigued. If the lore is interesting and it's not lazy remake of The Old World (and sigmarines aren't very blatant Space Marines), I may even spend some eurobux on a small army.
Hey guys, I have a question: where exactly are the 8 mortal realms? I know they're in the aetheric void, but where exactly is that? Are they in some pocket universe or dimension? Are they still in the same fantasy universe or another one?
Are there pdfs yet of the Lumineth Realmlords, Disciples of Tzeentch, and/or OBR available yet for 4th edition?
>>97810083Yes, that's what makes it a choice and not a fundamental law of physics.
>>97810097Don't be, the house of AoS has fallen down, but the new house is built from the same rotten bricks. All that's left to harvest is potential models from a few factions, and maybe the new factions.
>>97809911Sounds based because AoS NEVER felt like a proper Warhammer game.
>>97810097>If the lore is interesting and it's not lazy remake of The Old World (and sigmarines aren't very blatant Space MarinesLike you can see we had two conflicting rumours today. One where yeah it really is just shitty whfb, one that at least seems to try something new and interesting. Here's hoping it's the second, because even a shitty execution of that version is a million times better than "whfb but bad and 40k".>>97810099same universe as the fantasy one yeah
>>97810099Nobody knows, it's something they never actually explained. Presumably it's somewhere in the original Fantasy universe, given Sigmar and the core of the Old World fell in there.
>>97810071> Let 40k inThey could, at any time> Let in LOTRTheir license won't let them do that
>>97810099Same universe sigmar travelled through the void there was no mention of dimensional travel
>>97809087>-This leads to Stormcast going crazy, and even fighting a civil war against CoS. Celestant Prime also potentially dies here. Due to Sigmar's death they can no longer reforge.That feels silly, why wouldn't they be able to reforge they literally have an entire sect dedicated to just doing this shit all day every day.>Age of Sigmar: The Last WorldI doubt it, especially since no copyrights have been filed as such.>Most characters will not remember what happened during the transition.Wow the one piece void century x 10, yipee.>they will inject Sigmarite/Sigmar's essence into highly trained mortals to refill their ranks.>They will also burn hundreds of wizardsThis one got me, spit my drink out, good bit. If they unironically crib 40k that hard they're smoking crack if they think it's gonna work out how they imagine it will. The reason 40k and Fantasy worked over time is because they actually fucking invested in stories and lore and all this extra bullshit, AOS didn't get this and instead just kinda coasts by on the bare minimum with GW not wanting to put the effort in to make it shine.
People understand planescape setting better than AoSThat's all you need to know about AoS level of quality
To my honest surprise, I found a sealed first edition Start Collecting box of StD. It was two times cheaper than the current Spearhead box and, since I already have a kitbashed Chaos Lord, I have everything needed to play Spearhead.Is there any kind of campaign supplement for Spearhead that lets me upgrade my force with magical powers and trinkets over the course of time or is Spearhead all about one-shot pick-up games?My other idea is to pit them on square bases and play Battle March and Path to Glory since I can easily build 1000pts in TOW with this box and some Chaos Spawns I already have.
>>97810212>Is there any kind of campaign supplement for Spearhead that lets me upgrade my force with magical powers and trinkets over the course of time or is Spearhead all about one-shot pick-up games?Spearhead is one shot pick up games, if you'd want goofy shenanigans with upgrades and bullshit units you can pick up a Path to Glory campaign though, start off with spearheads or 1k point games and work your way up.
>>97810099if we take things at face value, the aetheric void formed as a bubble in the point of realspace where the warhammer world used to beis it large, visible or interactive from outside? we don't knowthe theory of black holes containing other universes spring to mind for a guess though otherwise, if we want to read in-between the lines a bit, the realm of chaos swallowed the area of real space where the fantasy world was and the aetheric void formed as a pocket reality inside some corner of the realm of chaosmeaning that either the point of real space where the old world used to be is completely empty and devoured, or it's embroiled in a warp storm or some formin all practical terms, it's a separate micro universe with basically no contact with anything outside the aetheric voidwe could get a more definite answer if we knew how what voyage and mean of travel the lizardmen ships used:did they depart from the old world, travelled through conventional space and then reached the edge of the aetheric void? where they swallowed inside the aetheric void with the formation of the realm and their voyage happened inside this void? did they in any way travel through the warp/webway as was the old ones' mean of travel?as a neat factoid, in a shadespire novel (I think), the characters noted that from their position it was possible to see little dots in the firmament above the city, and the dots occasionally going dark, as if light was coming from holes in the edge of the void and huge things swam beyond the edge, obscuring the light while they passedthose things were compared to creatures like the dark gods, but in genuine cosmic horror fashion, they were said to be far larger, older, and utterly uncaring, because unlike the 4 gods, they "didn't play with their food"is the character saying this reliable? is the book to be considered canon? I'm not the one to say, but I stick to the idea of the void being ultimately inside the warp, and this fits that
>>97810212Don't waste that box on AoS, anon. Just start TOW army.
>>97810226Anyone here actually played Path to Glory?
>>97810235I have, it's kinda just regular warhammer games with stipulations and the option to make some batshit crazy overpowered unit/hero. Also the wound system from blood bowl is in there kinda
I think it’s about done
>>97810186>why wouldn't they be able to reforgebecause the reforging involved sigmar, the six smiths, the anvil of apotheosis, and possibly dracothion and the core of the old world and we don't know what's surviving or staying accessible?saying sacrosancts could reforge stormcasts is like saying nuclear power plants operators could produce nuclear energy without the power plant
>>97810243Ah forgot pic
>>97810245I suppose they'd have to know about the Anvil of Apotheosis is to say that it's gone, fair point.
>>97810248 Back side
>>97810212chaos warriors are kinda dogshit in tow atm. Personally tried getting into the game with both them and wood elves last year and it seems like they never really resolved either of the factions issues. Knights are good there, both chosen and regular ones, but everything else besides some character builds are just waste of points. I think marauders were made better but I mentally clocked out when they removed marks of chaos with some other dogshit for them, where once again they only have 1 option thats worth picking. I've never played against/with the std spearhead though so I cant really tell you if they would be enjoyable either there.
>>97810248>>97810257Been enjoying your updates, turned out great anon. Especially the veil/face.
Hi anons, I'm new to tabletop and painting, but I liked Warhammer Fantasy and Skaven are one of my favorite races from the lore and video games (Mark of Chaos and Total War Warhammer (and BOTET)So I'm wondering would this be a good buy to get a feel for it, is it for me? found it on https://www.sirengames.at/en/aos-skaven-paint-set since official site is out of stock btw.Are Games Workshop paints and tools good or should I buy some other paints/tools if this is bad. If so what would you recommend as a starter. BTW I don't have any warhammer shops in my country so gonna have to buy online, can't check for better deals and sales locally if anyone was gonna suggest that.
>>97810226Now that I think about this, maybe I should keep my FEC AoS-exclusive and build the StD box for TOW.>>97810268Aren't cults basically marks of Chaos for marauders?
>>97810340There is no particular reason to buy games workshop tools/paints everything you can get elsewhere is perfectly fine and less expensive.As a starter this isn't the worst since it's just a few models and if you don't wanna go whole hog on buying a bunch of shit all at once it's a nice way to get started without thinking too hard. If not you could just buy a box or some stuff on Ebay, buy a cheap box of brushes on Amazon, and like a vallejo paint starter kit with like 15 primary colors and some metallics.
>>97810248>>97810257damn, you did some great work there.
>>97810340>can't check for better deals and sales locally if anyone was gonna suggest thatJust check the secondary market dude. You can get 20 clanrats for like 10eur on Facebook trading groups.
>>97810340>BTW I don't have any warhammer shops in my country so gonna have to buy online, can't check for better deals and sales locally if anyone was gonna suggest that.I don't know how familiar you are with tabletop gaming, but in case you didn't know official warhammer stores are not the only stores that sell warhammer, in fact they're not even the primary stores for most people. I'd be very surprised if your country didn't have at least a few hobby stores nearby
>>97810099From what I understand, the mortal realms and the aetheric void are located in the same fantasy universe, but without knowing exactly where. However, I have a theory that they are located at the very center of the fantasy universe and that they were created by the Ancients as an emergency plan if chaos won and the world of Mallus was destroyed. Of course, that's only if the world of Mallus wasn't the very center of the universe, hence its great importance.
...bros, did the rumor engine break?
>>97810544This has me wondering, do you think if the realms get all squished together that means we'll finally get the incarnate spider skull thing
>>97810544Is this all that's left after adepticon?And yeah shit it seems they forgot lol. That ever happen before?
>>97810544I don't think GW like the rumour engine. They frequently stall for time by adding multiple pictures of the same model, some pictures hang around for years and there's no official way of keeping track of unsolved rumour engines.
>>97810618Or they have given up doing the rumour engines
>>97810544>>97810635Considering how hard they nuked the unsolved images, I assume they’re winding it down.
>>97810640>Considering how hard they nuked the unsolved imagesNuked as in they revealed a lot during the show or?
>>97810442Will check more haven't reasearched that much, cheked Ebay and some other sites, the shipping costs are pretty damn steep generally>>97810474There are a few, but as far as I've researched they don't sell Warhammer.
>>97810661That's odd, you somewhere in asia or south america or something? Best of luck either way.
>>97810680Bosnia and Herzegovina lol
>>97810649Yeah. There was like 20 unsolved before and after is just the 6 from that other post. They were also padding it by giving single models multiple RE’s, though.
Anyone here actually play CoS that could describe how they play and how fun/lame they are? I'm trying to stop myself from picking up a new army from the excitement of the new releases.
>>97810204People these days are way dumber than they were 20-30 years ago.
>>97810784#grok can you explain what this guy means by this?
>>97810799Fuck you. You need to be subscribed. Gib money!
>>97810771Your cavalry is your anvil. Command corps are kinda where most of the shit that actually gets done is from. New book will radically change its current identity.
Good morning. New rumours eh. How are the copers going to deal with reality now that is has been spelled out that it’s not a soft reboot but a total lore reset where everything from the past will be ignored? Total grog victory
>>97809364Snake worshippers sound like Ind. it would be so funny if fantasy avoided fantasy Indians being added because they were sent to AoS. AoS truly out here taking bullets for WHFB time and again.
I wish to see support for Spearhead in the next edition but GW will most likely axe it with the transition like they did with every other cool thing. It's funny how they keep the corpse of Combat Patrol alive despite it being widely unpopular because of the lack of balance since the very beginning.
>>97810816Probably better than Fantasy fans who think GW will do anything relevant to the decade plus dead setting.
>>97810811Ah so it's a DoK situation.Maybe I'll get lucky and waiting it out will let me wind up with a good deal on someones second hand army if the book winds up sucking.
>>97810824The supposed name of the new Chinese Army is basically just a reference to the Yuan Dynasty, aka the time period where China was ruled by Mongols. It is kinda interesting I guess that the Cathay clone is the only one that sounds like it might have slightly different lore compared to the other three. It might not mean anything in the end, though.
>>97810824>Snake worshippers sound like Ind.Or Khuresh but I would guess Snakemen will be a TOW faction at some point.artwork of a Ind Cobra Cult does exist though from the Warcry card game
>>97810885>It is kinda interesting I guess that the Cathay clone is the only one that sounds like it might have slightly different lore compared to the other threeThank god. I’d rather not have dragon primarchs. With that being said it’d be extremely lame if Bret’s are 1-1 in both settings, Reynolds already had a better execution of them in the eight lamentation series compared to anything Bret’s ever had.
>>97810899Kind reminds me of some Warcry bands. Between the fire one and the snake warband.
>>97810707My condolences
>>97810816The first rumours today were looking kinda bleak ngl but boole's version was actually relatively interesting.
>>97810859anon, no one wants GW to do anything to their setting, everything GW touches nnowadays if filled with women, niggers and worse
>>97810816>where everything from the past will be ignored?I genuinely hope that's not completely the case and instead everything that happened in aos up until now gets treated as inaccurate legends and mythsbut that would require competent writers who give enough of a shit to both retrace, expand and offer multiple versions of the past
>>97811140I don't disagree, but holy shit, that would be total surrender, like: we, GW, are sorry for the crap we were creating for last 10 years. We agree it was utter, disrespectful and absolute garbage and for that we seek your forgiveness.
the new rumors both sound like bad fanfic and also yet, if they do them, wont be the worst thing everat worst you can basically treat all lore until then as being horus heresy type shit for the setting, back when the gods were still present and the world had more hope or whateve
>>97810850No one actually plays combat patrol dummy. It's just the value box for each faction each edition. I have literally never even heard of anyone playing combat patrol let alone seeing it.
>>97811176As a grog, I may forgive them. Maybe not. We will see. The bright side is that there's no way they make the setting worse than it currently is, they can only go up from here.Nice of GW to at least admit they fucked up rather than spending another decade on a sinking ship.
i dont care about the lore changes as long as my chamon-based seraphon can still be metal lizard boys
>>97811199We're at the point now where we've got two rumormongers beefing in real time and calling each other liars. What a fucking mess this all is.
>>97811247It seems chamon will be part of the big boy realm together with aqshy and ghur.
>>97811256wait that's happening now? lol, okay so im actually justified in kinda thinking this wont even happen then huh
>>97811176I am waiting for them to tear this down
>>97811263It's either the most elaborate april's fool Warhammer has ever seen, or we have multiple rumormongers high on their own farts who can't even agree on what they've both read
>>97811256>>97811263Lmfao this shit is hilarious
>>97811284Holy shit so Kurd admitted to lying about details in his leaks to calm down hysterical AoS fans on TGA? Total grog victory
>>97810544Free the spider GW
>>97811247I think the implication is that lizards made their own continent now, so they might not be randomly spread all over or in spaceships.I hope they can have their cake and eat it too and do all three honestly.
>>97811265wish granted, it's replaced with the new SCE design
>>97811298wonder what the lie was
>>97811315that would be so insanely retarded for them to be confined to one continent AGAIN, i like my spaceships and shit mane...
>Don't worry guys it's not like the End Times it's more like Gathering Storm
>>97811260ok good, ngl its always been the coolest one to me, the idea of the metal beasts roaming around and shit, GW really has been dropping the ball not giving us more of it
>>97811320ok, but it has to be still on sprue
>>97811333Really, they should be a Jungle moon that the lizardmen live on, and they orbital drop down on the battlefield
>>97811260Yeah that was an interesting choice, like Aqshy/Ghur make sense, everything basically happened in those two realms, but Chamon is a surprise. Probably mostly was just done to bring the dwarf armies into the main continent though.
>>97811360no, no i like my boys being spread about so they can enact the great plan wherever needed, plus the idea of them having embassies in cities of sigmar is great
>>97811360No point in having a dark jungle continent if you can't have explorers who can reach it by boat
>avatarfagging
So now that we know GW is squatting the setting, what are your hopes for the reboot? Personally I hope they get rid of the Californian demographics for the different factions. I know it probably won't happen. But it would be cool if instead of just cramming blacks into European aesthetics we got dedicated factions based on African cultures/aesthetics. There's so much to draw upon. Imagine a religious CoS sect based upon Ethiopian Christian aesthetics. You have a wealth of pagan, Christian and Islamic aesthetics you could draw from instead of just making European inspired factions half black.
Man I wish gw remade the creeping vine set but ditching the leaves on it and incorporated thorns.
>>97811504Joly fuck i didn't evrn know this existed
>>97811497Simply a combo of dark fantasy settings. DAO,Berserk,fromsoft, etc
>>97811497JUST REMAKE THE FUCKING SPIDER RIDERS KITI HAVE BEEN WAITING LIKE A DECADE FOR ITI WANT NOTHING ELSE FROM EITHER GAME I JUST WANT NEW SPIDERS
>>97811528I hope you get your wish spiderbro
>>97811497erm no chud, they're JUST LIKE US CHUD THEY COULDVE BEEN EUROPEAN IF THEY WERE JUST ON THE MAGIC DIRT!in all seriousness i hope they dont go too grimdark with it, or even general "dark fantasy" because there's just so much of that.
>new Stormcast will be made by injecting Sigmarite
>>97810949Nah, it's comfy actually, just not convenient for being a GW consumer hehOn the bright side seems Croatia and Serbia have some stores, a lot of online shit I want is sold out, but I learned that doesn't mean it's the case for the stuff sold directly in the stores, so can check out stores when I'm in Zagreb or Belgrade, they have a few each.>>97811497>Ethiopian Christian aestheticsOrthodox aesthetic African fantasy faction would be pretty original and sounds cool.I'd personally hope for more Skaven stuff and a Return of some forces that are more similar to the original Empire and Bretonnia styles, average Cities style seems like a downgrade imo.
>>97811522Gw doesn’t really do much to advertise their basing stuff sadly, and I’ll be honest they look kinda chunky. I think the last time they did anything for hobbying was the space marine skull set.
>>97811559they just released the battlefield trophies set
>>97811565The what
I think the reactions from both grogs and AoS players so far show that this was a pretty great move from GW. The wfb players see it as their victory/vindication and several of them are saying they might give the ”new setting” a go. The AoS players are mostly chill about it after they got confirmation that the models and factions stick around and that it’s still 5th edition and not a complete rules overhaul.GW is maximizing the playerbase, as well as ”detoxing” the online sentiment of the setting potential third party developers may encounter if they google the game ahead of considering paying for the IP.Total GW victory. And a victory for most of us. Even if it’s engineered by GW, the feeling of vindication is great for the old players and anything that increases interest in AoS (as a game, mainly) is a win for the players.
>>97810816Now my Tzeentch worshippers are based in the Dark Tower of Leng instead of Silver Tower of L'eng.
>>97811570https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/warhammer-40000-battlefield-trophies-2025
>>97811604Yeah that’s the one I’ll never have a use for. And that was like 2 years ago.
>>97811573Yeah I am a grog and I feel this too. I have reservations about the new setting but that is more from modern GW lore/worldbuilding being shit across the board rather than a setting specific issue. I will keep an open mind and see what they develop it into. And yes, it does feel like vindication. That those of us who refused to get into AoS because of how bad the setting was were agreed with by GW. I remember like 2 years ago I went into a GW pre TOW release to check it out as I hadn't been there since they canned Fantasy. And the guy tried to sell me on AoS and I had to stop him after a couple minutes and tell him it just isn't for me. It was so dumb to listening to him try to explain it. And I tried loretubers and reading the wiki and I could never get it to " click ". It all felt so ephemeral and non consequential.
>>97811573I mean, I don’t think anyone but the most ardent retard thought AoS’s foundation was any good. Imagine AoS like a house. The work done to try and repair the damage was decent, even good in some cases, but the issue always returns to the foundation being fundamentally flawed. That house was going to come crashing down one day or another. I say this as someone who loves the setting but wishes GW would’ve done more and better with it.
>>97811611>it was 2 years agowell, one, the year of release is right there, but you are still right either way, i think they even stopped making the vines desu
>>97811625>That those of us who refused to get into AoS because of how bad the setting was were agreed with by GW.But it's still the same setting, they're just smushing the locations into one place and will continue doing the same shit...
>>97811573i just hope they dont relegate the seraphon to one singular area still, that would sour me on it, because i dont want to be that guy that's like "ERM AKTUALLY MY GUYS ARENT THERE"
Have the “rumors” said anything about Deepkin’s place in all this?
>>97811573>>97811625>>97811627Me too, fellow grogs! I have always hated AoS ever since I first found out about the setting all those years ago when I first downloaded Total War Warhammer. I think we should make several threads on the topic.
>>97811658There hasn’t really been anything said outside of the new humans and stormcast so far for better or worse
>>97811642>But it's still the same settingI don't understand how this cope can continue when the leaks now clearly doubled down and stated that everything is being wiped and nothing of the Mortal Realms will be remembered. You can't do a harder reboot than that. The world isn't the realms smushed together, it's elements of the realms taken and adapted into a more cohesive WHFB like world, including locations and themes from the WHFB world. Stop the cope man. You're starting to sound like the Gathering Storm guy and look how dumb he looks now.
>>97811673But it literally is the same setting, same factions, same characters, all the same lore will STILL have happened it's literally just gonna push time forward
>>97811664>calling me a grogFucking ew. I literally said I enjoy the setting we have now.
>>97811664Cope however you want. But I am legit interested in the reboot whereas before the setting was so bad that I simply couldn’t care. And I tried to multiple times but I kept bouncing off how dumb it all was.
Its pretty simple. GW didnt want to support setting where its most loyal fans have a 41% attrition rate.
if this is true, i'll miss the realms desu, it was a fun idea that kinda got wasted because GW didnt lean into it enough to make it really explained, they just kept using the same 2 realms
>>97811642For me just this one little change - swapping realms with planet is a great improvement. I just can't take seriously any setting where I don't even know how the gravity works.
I wish we kept the ip counter. The loss really has been a detriment to boards in this site.
>>97811708Too much of the current setting was explained away by " it's magic ". At a certain point that crutch gives in and the wider setting as a whole loses meaning.
>>97811692NTANo it's not. Unless you claim that early AoS that had every WFB faction was the same setting as WFB setting.
>>97811708Some of the shit I read here just baffles me.
I wish that someone would make 3d printed heads to make Infernal Cohort look more like Infernal Guard. The rest of their armor is pretty much perfect for it. I did consider actually using 3d printed/recast IG heads for it, but those don't have the beards attached like IC do.
Dominion was kino actually
Holy shit I get it now, this is literally just the shit where fans hate the newest thing so as soon as something newer comes out they start to get over their hate for the previous one.
>>97811673>>97811692It’s similar to the web > tow situation; we keep the factions and the ”gist” of their lore, but the world is new and the old setting hasn’t happened yet(tow) or has been forgotten in the sands of time(tlw).So, in a sense both you are correct; the factions and the world stays, in the sense that the realm maps and names stay, and the factions remain(but changed in some ways by the passage of time and the fusion of the realms), but since all previous lore is relegated to myth and won’t drive the plot or factions forward anymore, it’s more or less a new setting since this is ”the start”.
>>97811692It's not the same setting. It's literally more severe than The End Times. Because at least in the End Times some survivors remembered The World That Was. In this reboot they don't remember anything. The Mortal Realms are being wiped from history like that Stalin meme photo by the river. Just like in the End Times, everyone's models will be usable...for a period of time. Some factions will stay and be permanent, and surely like in the ET some factions will disappear by 2nd or 3rd edition.
Is this a total grog victory?
>>97811748No you have it backwards. I hate the current thing and am hopeful for the new thing.
>>97811769Almost.
>>97811749>>97811573Yeah, well AoS for me has been something like Models > Factions > Gameplay > Lore > characters So keeping the factions and models and reworking the worst part(s) is a win-win for me.
>literally 0 effort to not tell everyone you're the same guy spaming the same shit
well i'll see you guys in a couple weeks again when the grogs fuck off and stop their victory lap over literal toy soldiers, and the rumors die down, the rumors that have two different leakers contradicting each other mind you
>>97811769>>97811778
>>97811702>i love fantasy and i hate AoS i will shit up these threads every chance i get!Yeah we get it bro, no one to play TOW with so you shit up these threads in frustration
>>97811793No we have Boole dooming and the other guy who " contradicted " him admitted to lying here >>97811284
>>97811497The problem with making an african faction is you end up having a very small market for it. I'd love for African monsters to be in there. Their is a good array for a vampire subfaction>blood knights on fireflies>cycloptic crypt flayers>little 3 eyed zombie grots (we can leave out the meter long penis from their myths)>mourngul but he hops on one leg instead of crawling on his hands
>>97811787It's fine, every few months this seems to happen here. Grog victory guy is on par with Now that the dust has settled guy, and a few steps below decalfag.
>>97811795You TWW secondaries are so annoying, you dont even play wither game
>>97811795This is the most Reddit thing I’ve seen on this board. Just needs you to post you onions pogging in it.
>>97811799>false flag tow grog scared his peers will pivot away from his game>>97811702I hope it will be a setting were all of us can get along, paint some models and play games
>>97811809I’m pretty sure they’re both the same people.
>>97811836I can't imagine a more sad existence if that is in fact the case.
>>97811836Wouldn't be surprised. All of /tg/ probably doesn't crack 100 people after multiple exoduses.
>>97811769Grogs are like Chaos in the Last World.Sigsissies are on their last hope, but it's a bitter and desolate one, and the Grogs are at the gates.
>>97811866Then the gates of azyr are breached, and sigmars dream is completely destroyed(mass 41%)
I look forward to seeing how humiliating Sigmars death is.
>>97811727But aos didn't have every fantasy faction>legends rulesYeah to use aos (the game) rules to play whfb armies/characters, not that those existed in aos (the setting)
>>97811900that's cope, we literally see fantasy characters in this shitty game all the time. are you dumb
>>97811914>aos had all the whfb characters!>no it didn't>uhh yeah but it had some? Idiot.No wonder ca had to dumb down total war for this crowd
>>97811914Nah you're kinda being retarded here anon. At least try harder with your bait. I know /twg/ is kinda experiencing a drought but you can still probably find some joy in your next flavorless campaign.
>>97811658idk
>>97811935Damn you weren't kidding, place is slow as fuck and what posts there are talk about 40k lore. Grim. Dark, even.I know it's kind of off topic but what happened, I thought /vg/ was pretty fast. Does the place just dry up between dlc releases or what?
>>97811934It had almost all, save Tomb Kings and Bretonnia if I remember correctly (two factions that were already dead in WFB).
>>97811284why is boole leaking from washington DC does the us government have secret warhammer info?
>>97811769>My spirit will rise from the grave, and the whole world will know that I was right about everything
>>97811954Sharty killed 4chan with the hack. Most of those who left never came back.
>>97811954something something nagash was weak I guess i dunno. I was into the general with wh2 but it kinda fell off after some point with the eceleb nonsense.
>>97811934FUCK YOU YOU'RE WRONG YOUR GAME WILL DIE GW LOVES FANTASY AND KNOWS AOS RUINED IT NOW FUCK OFF AND ENJOY YOUR THREAD THAT ONLY GETS POSTS WHEN WE SHOW UP
>>97811965They need to keep the UK in check.
>>97811983Weak false flag.
Sylvaneth will probably be a popular army with this new book.
>>97811960Tomb kings got new units in 8th, but it didn't save them the poor souls. They seem to be doing alright in tow at least, that's nice.Also it's more pedantic but I do have to point out that while high elf, empire, dwarf, ... etc models survived, the factions didn't and infamously either got souped to high hell or broken up into tiny little pieces. Neither of which is (as far as we know) happening during the transition to 5th. Well, fyreslayers are getting souped, but that's happening in 4th.
>>97811965Trump is about to reveal that the Realm of Chaos is real, and deploy Wizards to drop purple suns on Iran.
>>97812005Oh that's why they gotta burn 100's of wizards a day.
>>97812005>Trump v Khamenei, Stormcast vs DoK
Any good examples of like icy/frostbitten skin, I kinda wanna go for a snow theme for FEC, super pale fucked up skin with frost bite on limbs and cool colors with the dripping blood being the only bright color, blue/grey skin for the ghouls and such and a darkish blue for dragons and other big boys
I wonder what brought our friends from across the aisle to this thread all of a sudden. Fatrak made another video or something?
>>97812003TKs were killed by VCs. After split of Undead list they were always the poor brother of the two. GW failed at making them two different armies and we got two skeleton armies basically. That's why I doubt GW will make the same mistake again and reintroduce VCs in TOW. We gonna get Vampire Coast (zombies with guns) instead and MAYBE VC list in form of army of infamy.
>>97812078Grogs are curious about all those "last world" rumors.
>>97812078The rumours doubling down on the complete reboot and the guy who was making it seem less impactful than it was admitting he was lying to soften the blow for AoS fans
Will sylvaneth ever get wood elves back. There the elves that make me the hardest
>>97812001Did they finally make a tome that doesn’t require a degree to play at a passable level? They’ve been shoving a ton of high skill floor books out lately.
>>97812076It's a hard theme to go for, since frostbite realistically isn't that dramatic looking. BUT You could go for heavily pale skin that purples and blackens near the fingers. If you really wanna go crazy could have little boney tips with some blood seperating it from the skin so it looks like their skin is falling off.
>>97812109>>97812111Yeah but that all happened like 10 hours ago, while the shitflinging only started the last hour and a half maybe.
>>97812165Morning in Brazil or other macaco shithole.Mtg thread is also pested by Brazilians
>>97812165True warhammer fans thirst for conflict, it's something you siggies still don't understand.
Since the threads melting, i'm gonna post a WIP. Gradually getting to the end of Kairos. Once he's dine I'll have all the named greater daemons :D
>>97812213>Once he's dine I'll have all the named greater daemons :DPost the other 3
>>97812213He still the worst to paint?
>>97812161I was gonna test some stuff for skins, but my idea was for something like black templar contrast in the limbs so it has a blackened look then drench stuff in dried or frozen looking blood I've just been kinda writing ideas down for paint schemes since I want sure how I wanted to go
It's crazy how AoS is cheaper when it comes to army building than 40K and fantasy. You can proxy terrain and spells easily, when it comes to official unit models you can get an army from starter set + a spearhead. Meanwhile in 40K that on average would be barely half an army.Why wasn't GW so gigajewish with AoS compared to the other hammers
>>97812126Personally I think its a mid-range book but Ill be honest, something like the tzeentch book seemed pretty simple. The army of renown for sylvaneths tree lord spam seems pretty timmy friendly though while also offering some depth in the game. really hoping gw expands on armies of renown later on, more items, more heroic artifacts, maybe even some unit customization...
>>97811883Sigmar isn't dead, that is just chaos propaganda.
>>97812251There's not really a big tournament scene so they actually have to compete with proxies.
>>97812220Of course :D >>97812229Out of all of what I've done so far, yeah. Though I'm someone who hates the middle part of painting, so the more weird little details or greebles I need to hit the worse it feels. Once I have a more finished product or the base coats down I can tolerate the process a bit more.It makes painting shit like nurgle dudes easy vs something like a gargant where there's lots of different colors and textures and bits to hit.
>>97812251>Meanwhile in 40K that on average would be barely half an army.Unless you're Custodes and Grey Knights
>>97812211I don't think you even understood the question>>97812213Nice, I feel like we don't have a lot of tzeentch posters. You happen to have played the tzaangor spearhead? Tempted to pick it up and give it a whirl.
>>97812285I have not, I've got all the chaos armys except tzeentch but I found Kairos for 50 bucks and couldn't turn down the opportunity in case Be'lakor is allowed to run greaters at some point. (Also I just like centerpieces, even if I hate painting at times)
>>97812298Damn, kairos for 50 bucks?! I suppose it was someone offloading him from the battleforce, but wew that's a steal.
>>97812111I think the biggest misunderstanding here is how AoS players and wfb/tow players view the term "impactful" in this case.AoS players are, for the most part, ok or even hyped with the "reboot" after they got confirmation that 1) Models and factions would stay2) It's still considered 5th edition, and as such wont overhaul the rules framework.As such it's not that impactful to them. A positive side effect of them having a pretty thrash setting, where 95% of all lore was written faction specific, is that (almost) no one is attached enough to the framework setting enough to throw a fit.On the other hand, wfb/tow players are more lore focused; what made them avoid AoS (aside from misplaced accusations that AoS killed wfb) was the stupid, lackluster or just mid lore of AoS.To them, revamping the lore of a setting is a big thing, some even experienced it once and suffered and hated for a long time after.So in their eyes, this is VERY impactful.As such, both sides speak over eachother when they try to say it is or it isnt a big deal.When a grog tells an aos player that this is a huge full setting reset, he means just that; the setting is getting reset. Not just a lore event, but a big cataclysmic change.The AoS player interpret the "THIS IS A REBOOT, AOS IS DEAD!" comments as to mean what they themselves consider a reboot, killing of AoS; i.e a rules overhaul, model squatting and faction deleting event.And since the comments mention otherwise, they call the tow player an idiot, liar etc.But now we can see that both sides are correct! It IS a complete reset, lorewise and for the setting, but the game, factions and models will remain(for the most part. I guess a few named characters will die and models will become non-unique variants).tl;dr *The leaks still call it 5th edition*The factions will remain as well as the models*The setting will be a complete overhaul*The factions will change alot, although their 'core' probably will remain
>>97812251I will say that people have a lot more incentive to kitbash/convert here than most other games. Whether that means things get cheaper or not, who knows. Some people just buy one box of the mega gargants and then 3d print the missing parts to make like 3-4 giants. Others just use anime figures.
>>97812285>I feel like we don't have a lot of tzeentch postersWe don't have a lot of Chaos posters in geneal. The most prolific Slaaneshfag in the last 2-3 years was a 40k namefag who doesn't play, but jsut makes OPs with softcore porn pictures
>>97812322I've been wheeling and dealing and trading up in my local community so it's been pretty nice. That one was a lucky Facebook marketplace steal.Right now though I'm just salivating for the real project I want to get to but I don't know when cogforts are dropping onto shelves...>>97812347I do have Slaanesh! I traded my OBR for them awhile back and got an obscene amount in exchange. Slowly slice down my list and picked up good ol' Glutos, I was also the anon who was workshopping to get the chaos warshrine dudes to lift up his chariot!
>>97812347I'm a skaven and chorf fan (and by fan I mean I bitch about everything GW does with them), but I was kind of forced into switching games when everyone else at my LGS did.
>>97811972is this real or howeverbeit? is there actually an /aosg/ on the 'arty now? if there is im suprised it can exist
>>97812347Chaos is the lamest part of warhammer, even when the models are great. Like for /your dudes/ you either have coldsteel the hedgehog or a deluded idiot as your back story.
>>97812378Chaos is the coolest, and the only thing that can really stand alone.
>>97812323Good writeup. Though I would say based on what we know that the setting will be completely overhauled, according to boole's latest post our new continents will basically be stitched together versions of the old ones, cities and factions still exist etc.
>missed out on a corvus cabal boxset that was only 40 bucksAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>97812405>and the only thing that can really stand alone
>>97812441I'm sad that all those old cool ass units for Warcry won't be reprinted anytime soon barring some GW special event.I'm so sad that I missed out on the giant quadriplegic on stilts.
i just hope seraphon can get some more focus in the new setting, if it comes to pass
>>97812356>I'm a skaven and chorf fanWell that's "Chaos" Chaos, i meant the normal one. Obviosuly there are ratfags crawling in our walls
Regarding lore, can a normal human guy get a stormcast GF?
>>97812528Sure.
>>97812528No.
>>97812528Yes, but she can't get pregnat.
>2 years>we are forgotten
>>97812528Yeah they can have relationships with other stormcast and normal humans. But a lot of them chose not to, focusing on duty. It isn't that uncommon, but not the norm.
>>97812544It's stupid to me how Stormcasts were refreshed, but you have armies that still run sime old minis from WHFB.
>>97812544I will never forget the bad bitches from the evocators and celestar ballista kits
>>97812539Lame, even FATE servants can be bred if you try hard hard enough. What's the point of a tall Amazon Reiclone gf at that point?
>>97812539You don't know that.
>>97812539Source? Don't remember them being sterile after reforging
>>97812544I got the thunderstrike brotherhood sc and am planning on turning it into the skaventide spearhead, just gotta finish my other work first
>>97812570>>97812575Other than "every single Stomcast child ever mantioned was never said to be from after their 1st life" i'm fairly sure it was sated around 2-3e. But since i can't provide the quote you gotta trust me bro
>>97812567It's a safety, if she was pregnant but didn't know it, the baby could be lost in the reforging process causing you and your lightning wife undue suffering and anguish.
>>97812555Siggypiggies tax, anon.
>>97812544God. These models were fucking awful and fat. I'm not a huge fan of SCE in general but the replacements are vastly superior to the fatcasts.New Celestant Prime when?
Is the other stormcast dragon actually just called Crazy? But spelled phonetically...
>>97812611Karazai sounds closer to samurai than crazy.
>>97811547>>97811340Fuck off back to your dead general, gotenigger. Maybe sometime in the next 10 years you'll have enoough poorly painted beastmen to play your first game of TOW, assuming it's not abandoned by then.
>>97812625I wonder if he ever got around to fixing his "imperfections of the camera"
>>97811547>>97811340>>97812625>Boohoo no-one replied to my bait so I have to reply to myself and try to start shitGo to bed.
>>97812544Confess your hobby sins while you still can
>>97812655he got btfo'd in /40kg/ a couple days ago after posting his slapchop plague marine, that was pretty funny
>>97812666I’ve started an army like 4 times and I’ve sold all 2 of them.
>>97812666I never played a game of aos or any other tabletop wargame for that matter and probably never will, I just like painting cool models
>>97812673I just sold 2 myself but I have like 10 other projects anyways so it's not like i'm missing out on much...
Do you ever play a "story scenario" against yourself if you have 2 armies/spearheads?
>>97812668ooooo got any pics?
>>97812625You should try timeskipping 1000 years to a moment where you're not seething and wheezing.
>>97812746I'm sure it'll have as much of a change to the ongoing story and characters as it did to 40k.
>Nigel, studio head: We need to make our game more appealing to the heterosexual masses. >Gaz, lead writer: What if the golden bodybuilder faction injected their boss' molten cum into children to poz new recruits?>Oliver, lead designer: Mate that's fookin' aces!!!
>>97812723They claimed this is slapchop. I correctly told them it wasn't slapchopped. I don't think they know what that term means. I didn't use any contrast paint in this miniature.
>>97812813Actually I lied I think I used contrast on the skulls on the shoulder pad, but other than that there's no contrast. The base layer of the armor is just three different drybrushed colors.
>>97812813>>97812820Nobody cares about your paintjobs, faggot. That space wolf anon put you in your place, now fuck off.
>>97812830>That space wolf anon put you in your place, now fuck off.The dude who couldn't post a finished model but had to defend himself with " Its...its a WIP!"?
>>97812838>coping this hardkek
>>97812843You're the dude who claimed I posted slapchop, yet you call me the coper?
>>97812848>everyone laughing at me is the same persontry again
>>97812853You seem triggered, par for the course for a no models.
>>97812859>y-you madkeep seething, paintlet
>>97812870>calling others paintlets>still not posting a modelSad!
>>97812878You posted a 40k model in the AOS thread you dribbling moron. I don't care what space marine crap you post.
>>97812887Yes because someone falsely claimed I posted a slapchop model, which I posted to show that person is retarded. You can respond with an AoS mini. But I assume you'll just ignore that fact again and respond to me with no models.
>>97812903
>>97812929I am not going to insult your painting, as I think that's low brow. I will just say, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
>>97812954Blow me
>>97812929Always found it funny how the gargant's stormcast shield he wears around his waist is specifically one from the knights excelsior upgrade sprue.
>>97813006I always wondered what that one was desu, hasn't GW been on a spree of removing any fatcast stuff from models recently?
why you guys arguing about 40K paintjobs when your setting just got perma'ed and btfo'edI mean I guess it will be a lot easier to pull AoS:LW models into 40K for use, since they're becoming more gothic / euroslopped
>>97813025slopchopped?
>>97813025try being less obvious next time, goteslopper
>>97812929>contrastslopper calls others paintletsOnly on /tg/
>>97813034Not me. But I do find the AoS squatting to be very funny
>>97813043>phone screenshotyou tourists lmao
>>97813034THAT'S NOT ME
>>97813051Kek they do say impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery
>>97813035I'm gonna say it, contrast is a nice tool to have. Though I wouldn't only paint using it.
Real schizo hoursIn other news, everyone's favourite rumourslopper has started posting again. Seems like this whole tlw thing will end up getting us no less than 5 (!) new factions. Who the fuck knows how gw is going to manage this though, we've been at a constant of 24 tomes for what, 6 years now?
>>97813100Please god no, can't we just focus on shit that's already out and needing updates instead of adding more factions.
>>97813100I'm still not buying the idea that these factions are going to be full model rangesaos has been running for 10 years and it still hasn't delivered on shadow elves for fuck's sake
>>97813099I agree, when it isn’t used as a crutch and used sloppily. A lot of newer painters use it as a crutch and never learn fundamentals of how to highlight traditionally. That’s where the danger comes in. As a tool it’s great, as a crutch it cripples your development as a painter. Look at the gargant that guy posted, he literally slipped some of the beard contrast on the body/skin of the gargant and couldn’t even fix it up because of his reliance on contrast.
>>97813108You guys wanted a return to 1st and 2nd edition sovl, here it is. 5 new factions with two infantry sets each, all will be waiting a decade+ to get their second wave, enjoy suckers.
>>97813127you're right, I should have slap chopped him that would have saved me time and had more highlights!
>>97812929Nice gargant anon
>>97813127You should focus on not getting grainy finish on your primer and/or basecoats before you start criticising others, btw
>>97813100Call me a schizo but it feels like GW is switching the business model. I feel like their main focus is slowely switching to brand new factions over supporting older ones. Probably because they get higher hype sales from brand new concepts vs a new kit or two for an established faction. I feel like this is the logical progression of the corporate churn strategy. Hopefully I am wrong .
>>97813150Honestly he's not my favorite of the gargs I've worked on, but I liked kitbashing the axe and trying to make him the green stuff hood. Thank you though anon.
>>97813147>doesnt know what slapchop meansAnon you can read terms and learn about them online. Slapchoping involves contrastslopping. I didn’t use contrast save for the skulls on the shoulders. >>97813151Yeah the grainy is kind of weird and idk what I’m doing wrong. Might have just been a shitty can of primer or bad temp or something. I just got back into painting a few months ago since I quit as a kid. But my dwarfs don’t look grainy at all so I assume it’s just a shitty primer can
>>97813171I said it before and I'll say it again, blow me. I said nothing about your models initially other than saying it was 40k shit, but honestly fuck you dude.
>>97813183You didn’t call me a paintlet? Because I was responding to the guy who insulted my painting. If that wasn’t you, why did you respond with a photo?
>>97813194You said to respond with a mini, I responded with a mini you dweeb.
>>97813171I’ve not been reading whatever you’re typing but can you stop posting your models? They’re very unpleasant to be subjected to.
>>97813199Yes, to the guy who called me a paintlet. If that wasn’t you, I apologize for any insult you may have gotten from me, but it wasn’t targeted at you.
this is why you ignore shitposters instead of responding to them
>>97813100>>97813138The monkeys paw curls a finger yet again.
>>97813208Most shitposters just talk to themselves once ignored.Same logic as bait threads getting necro bumped from page 10
>>97813208People were falsely slandering me and I defended myself. I didn’t force my way into here.
This painting argument is like two old Jews arguing about a three-year-old unpaid merchandise delivery as they're being marched into the gas chamber.YOUR. GAME. IS. DEAD.Squawk about it! Rend those women's clothes. I came here to see suffering. >:(
>>97813220Who are you?
>>97813220you literally replied to your own 3 hour old bait to stir shit up because you got no replies lmao
>>97813225>I came here to see suffering.Go to your mum for that
>>97813100yeah there's no fucking chance LMAO
>>97813220>I need to defend myself on an anonymous imageboard!wow this sure reminds me of someone
>>97813171I love MESBG dwarves, man. Almost makes me regret my eternal allegiance to Sauron. Almost.
>>97813243w-what the fuck is this paint scheme anon....
>>97813225>This painting argument is like two old Jews arguing about a three-year-old unpaid merchandise delivery as they're being marched into the gas chamber.In the sense they keep having the same argument over and over again for months on end?
>>97813229I didn’t reply to my own bait because I didn’t post any bait. >>97813243Based. Yes I agree, I love them so much, very fun sculpts. After playing with them for a while I dare say they are probably a bit too strong rules wise. >Sauron Nice. I’m torn between getting the Mordor battlehost to start an evil army when I finish my dwarves, or starting Serpent Horde because I think painting cloth is my stronger suit. But I also love the orc sculpts and how varied they are.
>>97813243Breh
>>97813260no that it didnt happen
>>97813266I'm very sure two old Jews argued about a three-year-old unpaid merchandise delivery actually
>>97813153I mean that is basically what they tried during aos 1e/2e. That was like what, 15 factions released in 5 years or so? crazy time
>>97813277oh im sure that half happened
>>97813250Me trying random paints mostly.
TOW Trannies are really on one today arent they.and imagine thinking the changes in 5th are literally anything other than the exact same game with different maps.
>>97813286no bro, 5 factions on release, trust
>>97813261goteslopper how big is your gote army nowhave you cleaned the mouldlines or not i'm genuinely curiousI don't like you but I do like your mesbg dorfs they're cute
>>97813292It’s pretty big, well over 7000 points, of which 2/3 of that is painted, but I still have much to go. Also thank you for the kind words about the dwarfs. They are great sculpts.
>>97813153>Comic book constant relaunches for Issue #1 sales hypeRest in piss James Workshop.
>>97813100They are just gonna port updated Old World stuff to AoS imo.
>>97813324Theyll start making upgrade sprues for aos before that happens.
>>97813100so what's the 5th background faction? not!ind? not!kuresh? not!araby?tomb kings? vampirates? good cathay?silent beeople? katophranes? shadow demons?savage orcs? beastmen? centaurs?
>>97813350Not ind/Khuresh it sounds like. Evil snake worshipping Jeets.
Wait I forgot there was a new StD tome. Anybody got a list of cool lore. Is Belakor still a cuck
>>97813339gw doesn't do many upgrade sprues, they don't sell much because nobody likes to pay an extra amount of money for details to fix already overpriced kits
>>97813350Bretonnia x Wood Elves combined
>>97813356so now my based lizards can genocide jeets?is fantasy racism finally back?
>>97813358Here have the whole battletome instead:https://gofile.io/d/6JJfFn
>>97813381Danke
>>97813356>>97813362those were already counted in the mentioned 4>>>97809488>karujin>kingdom of lorennar>hanzor fiefdoms>ursal chiefdoms
5th edition starter set will be stormcast vs DoK with new push fit witch elves.Source: I made it up.
you're all retarded if you think they're going to add FIVE NEW FACTIONS on top of what we already have while also somehow NOT REMOVING ANYTHING
>>97813395I was on board with this until >ursal Im not accepting bara bear fuckers into a setting. Its also redundant when soulblight already has that slav look or whatever.
>>97813350Khazalid or Umbraneth.
>>97813350The simplest explanation is just malerion's shadow elves that get souped with dok.
>>97813409I don't think they're adding these factions, but I think they're mentioning these factions and expecting people to convert them or proxy them
>people are paypigging new dokI guess all it really took was a battleforce with morathis tits on it, but still, grim.
>>97813423I think boole claimed he's getting his information from (snippets of) the 5e core rulebook so that very well might be the case.
>>97813426Not only are the new hags terribly designed, but they are monopose with 0 options. Absolutely terrible kit.
>>97813426this shit is why i think you DoK players should be squatted with 5th, it is genuinely sad that we might get a proto end times and still not lose you fucking niggers, all you do is fucking goon to elves, your faction has NO LORE other than "ooh blood and dominatrixes enslave men", NO GOOD MODELS and NO REASON TO BE ORDER ALIGNEDyour 90s SLOP SHIT gets remade and the women are wearing SLIGHTLY MORE CLOTHING and you all fucking shit your pants, i am genuinely so tired of you all, any release or even INDIVIDUAL PRINTING of a DoK model is a WASTE OF A RELEASE SLOT OR MACHINE CYCLE that could be going to LITERALLY ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU GOONER RETARDS
>>97813420So explicedly not a new faction
>>97813445Hey, theres plenty of lore of morathi fucking things up and being a woman. Also krethusa is probably the only woman worth simping for in the mortal realms besides that sapussy.
>>97807696I just bought Warhammer: Realm of Ruins video game and finishe first chapter. Playing the game I had ABSOLUTE feeling I was playing dumber version of Dawn of War II - same vibes. Stormcast Eternals felt EXACTLY like Space Marines.>b-but it's a video gameYeah, but approved by GW. They WANT them to feel that way.
If AoS isn’t selling why would flooding the market with more AoS2:boogaloo be the plan this makes no sense
>>97813470that game is bad, no one tries to say otherwise, it was designed like shit from the ground up, this isnt an own nor does it prove any point, its just a bad game lmao
>>97813470Blud you tellin me you're one of the 11 killers? In the flesh?
>>97813472most of the shitposting was probably done by tww secondaries and a couple fakegrog faggots
>>97813472Because it’s not the plan
>>97813477The worst part? They won. GW has bent the knee.
>>97813487t. tww secondary and fakegrog
>>97813472Honestly I think they're squatting old world. Why else add old world exclusives like Cathay and Brettonia? Seems to me like they expected to make more money on those ranges
>>97813472because the problem with aos isn't in the rules or in the miniatures, it's in the lack of mass appeal and recognition of the setting40k is known, fantasy is known, soulslike grimdark is known
>>97813445so true king
>>97813455They'd be a new tome
>>97813395Wait what were the mentioned 4
GW has bent the knee to the undeniable judgement and taste of grogs. Why haven't you? Why do you hold out when your patron has abandoned your cause?
>>97813499They're adding not!cathay and not!bretonnia though. Totallynotcathay has been described as an evil horde khorchin/qing style faction.
>>97813518I dont think grogs like darksouls thougbeight. They probably aren't even aware what a estus flask is.
>>97813519fluff is fluff, the models could be reused.
>>97813548*TOW not ToW. It's not The of World.
Are there any normal human x Stormcast couples in lore?Are there any human x aelf couples in lore?
>>97813556Everyone knows. It's done specifically to annoy you.
>>97813548lmao this is great
>>97813558There’s this one book about an edgy wood elf trying to get pussy from his dead human wife.
>>97813548Post template.
>>97813548I’ve been too busy looking for good basing material online to paint. Think I’m just gonna have to make diy stuff instead.
>>97813541they've been described as horde-like, again specifically khorchin mongol, which doesn't fit with cathay's han+ming
>>97813570>male elf x fem humanEvery single timeEvery single GW elf x human couple is elven male. They are really commited to avoiding female elf x male human lmaoNot counting that one rape by Drukek wych
>>97813590Well there was a female elf x human book- >not counting rape Well.
>>97813548
>>97813476I was reading /aosg/ lately and decided to check what's the fuss about. It's about sigmarines, so I bought it for 3 eurobux.
>>97813548The OP asked us to discuss rumors. This is intellectually dishonest.
Cathay doesn’t even have chariots.
>>97813598In AOS?The wych thing was 40K
IMHO the lore reset would be a good thing. I love the minis, but most of the lore is meh to bad.
>>97813607I forgot which dok book it was, but one of them had raped a dude and carried his child out. She ended up getting excommunicated by other khanites though.
>>97813524I beat Demon Souls before I started any of my eventual three Warhammer Fantasy Battles armies.
>>97813582Jade Warriors are wearing the same shit you see if you google Yuan Dynasty armor which is what the leaks say Not!Cathay is based on.
>>97813631Go beyond google for your research.
>>97813639I'm gonna be real with you chief, I am not going to do that. I also don't believe GW did that.
>>97813623Did she kill him? Or keep him
>>97813657The guy she raped I mean not the child
>>97813631Isn't it more Tang-inspired?
>>97813662It’s been literal years since I read it but I think the guy does die.
>>97813631Nigga read a book using dynasty warriors as a source is embarrassing
>>97813761>this is dynasty warriors
>>97813631>>97813681Watch educational cute asian lady and stop being ignorant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGr5ZBawDeU
>>97813681Tang, Han, Ming, Yuan. Lamellar with neck guards looks like lamellar with neck guards.>Akchuallly this dynasty had a single pony tail ornament on their helmet while that dynasty had twoArr rook
>>97813795I'm afraid to watch because I can tell from the pic that she's cooler than me.
>>97813803The neck piece is most reminiscent of Song armor.
>>97813818Hey this armor actually looks different, this dude totally fucks.
>>97813807She does have her own fashion line inspired by medieval armour
>>97813556Lol look at this faggot
>>97813840Actual armor not larp wear
>>97813919That's the same shit that the other 4 dynasties war
>>97813607Callis had an elf explorer gf I can’t remember if Black Library retconned that too
>>97813501That would not help the problem. People keep describing a problem and working backwards with this illogical plan to get to the “reason” and every time it makes even less sense than the plan
>>97813941THE NECK PIECE CAN YOU FUCKING READ
>>97813840Minus the fur lining this seems pretty close to what cathay wears. Maybe add the high collar that a lot of dynasties have
>>97813976Yeah and the other dynasty's had the same neck piece but bigger.
Does anybody have a scan of the Thanquol spread from the Bonereaper battletome? Or just of the whole thing. I'm just interested in Skaven lore. Thanks so much.
>>97814089Man 40k art has gone off a fucking cliff what the fuck is that?
>>97814089Hang on, that's not the mad scientists I meant to post.
>>97814105
So aside from stormcast and CoS which factions will require the heaviest rewrites considering the new singular world and whatnot? Honestly I don't really care about the overall cosmology of the world, 8 realms or 1 unified one it doesn't mean to me, but the background and identity of the factions on the other hand is pretty important.I don't think deepkin give a shit, they always essentially existed off map anyway. Lizards I guess depends on what they do with the temple ships and established cities, I do hope they're more scattered than they were in whfb because that "jungles of itza" shit sounded damgerously close to just lustria 2.0 aka the nothing ever happens continent.
>>97814089awful>>97814125awful>>97814127bad but not awful
It really seems like the grogs fucking won after a decade
>>97814167agreed on the lizard front
>>97814246You guys put up a stalwart defense. There is no shame in this defeat. Your time has passed. It's like the ending of The Last Samurai.
>>97809774Inshallah, anon
>>97814167death factions, possibly? I dunno how Nagash being the god of death will work when the underworld is a continent instead of a realm>Lizards I guess depends on what they do with the temple ships and established cities, I do hope they're more scattered than they were in whfb because that "jungles of itza" shit sounded damgerously close to just lustria 2.0 aka the nothing ever happens continentwith you on that, nu-lustria I think can be nice as a general strornghold/base of operations but really they should be a lot more active and meddling all across the world instead of just going back and doing nothing for thousands of years
>>97813324I agree with you but people both here and on TGA get insanely defensive about this for some reason.
>>97813423GW might drop rules for playing them, if they're feeling extra generous. I don't know how anyone reads fucking "Ursal Chiefdoms" and sees that as an obvious Kislev proxy, though. That's blatantly not a new army, they're not even trying to make it sound cool. That's just "In the Last World, Kingdoms of Slavic Bear Fuckers technically exist, if you want to play them using models you might happen to have, wink-wink"
>>97814331The factions itself won't change too much I think (scattered vampire dynasties, ossiarch empire, fec kingdoms, nighthaunt just being spooky) none of these really require a separate death realm. But nagash as a character will be pretty weird depending on how they do shyish. It was to be merged with ghyran I believe? Interesting. That also brings us to alarielle, who is pretty heavily connected with her realm and specifically that realm. I'm assuming sylvaneth will also have random sacred groves spread around thr world to care about.Honestly the realm unification on its own won't change too much, it's that 1000 year timeskip if true that'll be tricky. Like are kharadron just going to be chilling in their cloud cities again? For a whole millennium? And come out unchanged?
>>97813324I know that seems like the only sensible option but they've been so ridiculously anal about not sharing kits up to this point, I mean look at this shit, if you said this was how they were going to handle having night goblins in both games before TOW's launch you'd been laughed out of the thread.
>>97814372But they do share chaos kits and dryads among others
>>97814360the timeskip is also a bit weird for the characters, iirc leaks said that a lot of the mortal characters will die from that, but when you think about, how many characters does that even affect?>undead don't care about old age>neither do elves>or chaos>or kroak>or kragnos>or even the fucking goblin that keeps dying and gets reselected by his immortal wolf mountcities of sigmar might actually be the only ones to get hit by this
>>97814358>and sees that as an obvious Kislev proxy, thoughAnd sees that as anything but an obvious Kislev proxy, I meant
>>97814382>cities of sigmar might actually be the only ones to get hit by thisEven for Cities they've hinted at some bullshit to salvage some characters, like reincarnation or new people with conveniently similar personalities and you just know at least one person is going to pop out of a chaos portal. I think beyond humans Dwarfs are also a question mark. They're long lived but not to the same extent as Elves. Fortunately there's like two actual dwarf special characters who aren't Gotrek so it barely matters.
>>97814372Unrelated but the monopiece skull pass night gobbos were the best ever and I long to get a full set of them one day
>>97814372Right, but in this case it's TOW having to make do with shit models because they can't take anymore toys with AoS. GW deciding to port things in the other direction could be as simple as deciding they want to make more money off these big brand new TOW army ranges and TOW sales alone aren't good enough to justify it.
>>97814403Nah, the only reason the split exists is to keep accounting clean. That's why BoC were squatted from the better selling setting rather than reboxed and allowed to be used in both and sold with both base options.
>>97813405DoK + CoS vs Gitz.It came to me in a dream
>>97814431erm source?
>>97813445>, your faction has NO LORE other than "ooh blood and dominatrixes enslave m
>>97814441Nikke April fool event
>>97814409Here's the thing though, they don't need to do a reboxing or merge the product lines. Just opening some lore space (some pretty low effort lore space, lets be real, "Ursal Chiefdoms' my ass) in the new setting and dropping a PDF with rules for playing Kislev in AoS doesn't impact any of that. It's just the same thing TOW is doing with Legacy Armies in reverse, but it can potentially boost sales of new models and attempt to convert some percentage of TOW players back to AoS.
>>97814459Based Japs
I can't be bothered screenshotting, but here's the latest Boole addition:>Yeah, there's actually a fifth one — there's a new Chaos faction in the 5th Core Book called the Blacksteel Autarchy >They specialize in using guns and even have their own dedicated illustrations >Honestly, though, they feel a bit like they overlap with Helsmith and Skaven >Still, the main race in this faction is humans Fuck if I know what to make of that one, random gun using human chaos army? For what purpose?
>>97814477I’m just considering this as a long winded shitpost
>>97814246The funniest part is that they actually won on the merits of the case. "The realms are vapid" has been the resounding critique for years, once the 1st edition trash was swept up (like moustache rules and no army building structure).God, what will happen if they axe the double turn too lol
>>97814477Traitor Guard to counter CoS
best army for this vibe? https://youtu.be/mY-WPvz2BzM
>>97814488I would be very upset if that’s actually thing. I’ve been demanding a list and the damned for 40k and thy decided to add some random dogshit like imperial agents before that. It’s also just something you can do with armies of renown, I mean shit pyroflame cult would be peak if it’s properly implemented.
>>97814488I was thinking that too, but it felt too on the nose. I guess they really are just straight copying 40K though.
>>97814477Bullshit
>>97814450it's crazy how you just totally ignored his point. he said it was for accounting reasons. meaning the AoS team DOES NOT WANT to put out a pdf, because their pdf will sell models from a different studio who is in soft competition with the AoS studio for plastic production slots, extra staff, more spinoff games and extra projects, all that stuff
>>97814523Getting TOW players to try AoS can potentially boost sales for AoS overall, and more importantly, it could be a corporate directive. It's crazy to me that two years of mild product separation, literally a departure from how GW normally does business, and now everyone has decided that any sort of overlap is literally impossible, forever and ever until the end of time.
>>97814477What was the purpose of the sea pirate elves, cloud pirate dwarfs, or etsy crystal shop bone jewelry undead?They're all just whiteboard ideas, and "blackpowder cultists" fits right in. If a blackpowder chaos cult had come out for Warcry people would've squeeeed like little fagits.
>>97814548the reason "people have decided that" is because of the literal structural split of the company, into competing studios with separate performance metricsit also started longer than 2 years ago, you're minimizing the length of time it's been to help make your part. mentioning that there are still lingering crossover products (dryads aos/tow, custodes 40k/hh, genestealer cults 40k/necro etc.) is also a similar deflectionbelieve me bro, i think it's a retarded way to do things, but it's a clear and consistent strategy that was reflected in the actual structural rearrangement of the company. i would love for them to abandon it, but until they actually release something *new* that is multi-game from the get-go we have to assume they're sticking to their dumb guns
Almost certain I’m gonna take the Cities-pill when the new Gallants/Spearhead comes out and looking at their range, I’m surprised at how underrepresented the walking city aspect is. I suppose it’s a relatively new aspect, especially now that the non-humies are getting kicked out, but still a mobile provisions cart or medical tent seems like they’d already exist. Like Bugman’s Cart, but watered down for humans or something at least.
>>97814582>because of the literal structural split of the company,Retard. Specialist Games aka Forgeworld has always been it's own thing. Didn't stop it from selling models meant for main studio games for most of it's existence until just recently.
>>97814582Remember the good old days when starting a Daemons of Chaos army meant you could 100% play both in 40k and Fantasy. Good times.
>>97814589Didn't stop them because they weren't sharing the means of production, you little twerp.List your five favourite Forgeworld plastic kits for me, moron.
>>97814487>God, what will happen if they axe the double turn too lolA mass 41%
>>97811882>>97811705>>97814620
>>97814620might want to look at your own thread man, your peers are lusting over a tranny right now
In hindsight, the mechanical chorf could have been used to recreate a brazen bull. Idk how one can sculpt or model that detail on. A latch on the bull would just look out of place.
>>97814620I do not understand this reference. What is a mass 41%?
>>97814641Tranny suicide rate
>>97814487>moustache rulesFucking what
>>97814693ignore it, it doesnt actually exist it's a grog shitpost
>>97814721Uh...
>>97814693this sniveling fag >>97814721is lying to you, for some schizo reason. It did exist, alongside a group of other absolutely retarded rules in 1st edition.>Helborg's skill is as legendary as his moustache is magnificent. You can re-roll any failed hit rolls when attacking with the Runefang so long as you have a bigger and more impressive moustache than your opponentI think another rule had you pretend to ride a horse. There were one or two that involved bellowing out loud, always a comfortable thing to do in a gaming shop. Basically extremely dorky 4th wall-breaking rules that gave you an in-game bonus for an out-of-game action or status.
>>97814738>>97814757I feel like there's a happy middle point between stupid rules like this and stripping out all the fun flavor in the name of tourny balance. Like rolling for mutations, magic backfiring, Skaven weapons exploding, etc. I bet something similar could be thought of for just about every faction in the game. Rolling to see if you've pissed Nagash off this week, if the Old Ones have a good omen, if Gork, Mork, both, or neither is smiling at you. Shit like that.
>>97814757Yeah and Vampires had bonuses if you were playing during nighttime locally as well. Lots of retarded shit in AoS 1.0
reminder that AOS 1.0 was spiritually grog, so you can just attribute it to being WHFB still
>>97814786>removing points and all army-building rules was grogI see that AoS posters are still spiritually-Israeli (just lie, boychik!).
>>97814830Lying to protect the game is a part of AoS. They are the wargaming equivalent of Muslims. While TOW/Fantasy players are wargamer Christians. Tell the truth even if it leads to your death.
Ill never get over how hard minotaurs looked in the art for aos and then the models are just about the ugliest fucking things in the range
>they're just talking to each other now
>>97814782there was also a bizarre rule for a skaven bell of doom where you rolled 2d6 (specifically unmodified) with different effectsbut if you "rolled" a 13 you'd win the game, even if you cheated, shit was wild in 1st
>kills your settingHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>97814866Do yall think steam tanks will stay in the next book or are they getting squatted?
>>97814943squatted 100%
>>97814853Extremely dire warning bell for your general, on one of its biggest news days of the year.
>>97814653Except no
I miss fatcast
>>97814896How does that even make sense
How much $$$ have you spent so far on AOS (incl paints and tools)How good of a paypiggie are you for GW?
>>97815129About $2000 for around 4 armies. Never got their endless spells though, some I didn’t even get the terrain for. Then $100 for paint from fanaticsThen like $50 for stuff like clip paper, masking tape, knives, etc etc.
>>97815148Actually add loke $40 for the fucking primer. I should really buy an air brush.
>>97815129I've spent loads of minis haven't kept any track of it, though I've made a good chunk back reselling and flipping shit. Paints though I've spent god knows how much, several hundred at least and god knows how much on primer cans.I try not to think too hard about it tbf.
Today I will paint a mini.
>>97815179>I've spent loads of minis haven't kept any track of it, though I've made a good chunk back reselling and flipping shit.wot's da point a' all dat
>>97815209Not him but its fun to just paint for the sake of painting sometimes.
>>97815213Paint only to sell them off? I would never
>>97815184which mini, anon?
>>97815283dire wolf.
>>97814927Kill it again but lamer and gayer
i'll see you guys in a few days when the TOWtrannies stop shitting up the thread. take this time to finish up my stormcast.
>>97815335You doing standard scheme or something else?
New>>97815444
>>97809315Soon
>>97809352>I guess the Not Cathay is going to be pretty different from TOW CathayIt better because TW WH Cathay was so hopelessly safe it was boring.
https://youtu.be/zp7vAb8RgeQ?si=RLKBanNHFGQ2rQb2 Lmao they are grimderping AoS. Hell I would have prefered if GW could do something new that isn't grimderp as much as I was not interested in AoS. Just make it a classic fantasy slightly darker like WHFB. Turning Sigmar lands into Imperium 2.0. is lazy slop
I hope that the new "Not Bretonnia" faction goes all in on elite knights and paladins as an aesthetic. The Sigmarines and Cities of Sigmar just aren't knightly enough for my liking.
>>97815209It's not on purpose, usually when I buy stuff I go for random massive lots people sell on the cheap because it has like 2/3rds of some stuff I'd want. Then when I get my lists narrowed down and decide what would make good hobby fodder the rest can be sent off to someone else or I trade for something I do want!Though right now I had to sell like 2 whole armys because I could use the money which stunk but I figure worst case scenario GW minis ain't going away anytime soon so if I'm really desperate I'll just get some later!
>>97810052While that's obvious true in the sense that GW can do whatever batshit crazy stuff they like at any moment, it would be clinically retarded even for them. People don't play TOW because the rules for using their WHFB armies in AoS weren't good enough, you fucking buffoon, they play TOW because they're cucked enough to still want to play "currently supported product" but not quite cucked enough to buy in to the setting that destroyed and supplanted the setting they actually liked. They like rank & flank games and they like the Warhammer World, another round of basic bitch "get you by" rules for a roundbase skirmish system decidedly not set in the Warhammer World isn't going to appeal to them is it.This sounds like massive, desperate, wailing, sobbing cope. Tick tock siggiepiggie.
>>97812323>aside from misplaced accusations that AoS killed wfbYou can stop now anon, we've had at least two ex-insiders now come out and say flat that Kirby was plotting WHFB's death as early as mid 7th edition not because it was innately failing financially(the abysmal fuckshittery of 7th's book balance hadn't yet had a chance to begin the actual commercial decline of the IP) but because he had deluded himself into thinking anything that looks vaguely Space Marine-esque would sell like Space Marines.WHFB's financial decline was an *outcome* of GW's decision to create AoS(or at least, the precursor version of it that would basically have been Last World but for WHFB, which they ultimately chose not to do) is the cause of WHFB's financial decline, not the outcome of it.
>>97817348Ooof that might have been a little stroke there in that second paragraph. Still you get the gist; GW decided to kill WHFB, then they started trying to milk the fanbase as much as possible before bait & switching with End Times, and it's that series of events that killed the game, rather than the game naturally dying of its own accord being a reason for GW to create AoS.
