Why does necromancy have 0 good spells in 5e?
>>97814690Because historically, "good necromancy spells" in D&D are either flexible minion access or save-or-die/lose, both of which are quite horribly neutered in 5e for the sake of attempting to make resolution less tedious and swingy.
>>97814717Cure wounds was necromancy
>>97814756Which is an "annoying base-load" spell, not a "good" one, hence the unfathomably long shadow of the Healbot Cleric that's kept fucking up the game design since before WotC got the IP.
>>97814690Because necromancy is evil. It obviously doesn't get good spells anon.
>>97814690Bestow Curse is a crazy good spell, so false premise, frogposter.
>>97814798You get what you deserve. 4e was the only edition with actually interesting healers and everyone hated it.
Minion summoning was heavily restricted for the sake of meta-practicality. The "I'm behind 7000 skeletons" shtick works fine in a computer game where the machine automatically calculates and runs everything, but when you're sitting at a physical gaming table with people IRL then every one of your skellies is another entity whose stats you have to keep track of, that has to be added into the initiative order, that gets its own turn, that has to roll dice to hit, that has to compare that roll to ACs, that has to roll dice for damage, and so on.So the shenanigans that 3.X necromancers could get up to, fun as they were in theory (and even in practice with the right DM), got removed.
>>97814690>Toll the Dead, one of the best cantrips in the game>Ray of Sickness, which does damage and inflicts Disadvantage aka broken bullshit>Ray of Enfeeblement, which gives disadvantage on all Melee attacks and Strength checks in general, including saves>Animate Dead, gives you a summon, one of the most obnoxious things in any TTRPG>Bestow Curse, more disadvantage>Revivify which lets you resurrect a dead person>Summon undead, which gives you another annoying summon with tons of ways to inflict Poisoned>Contaigon, which does a shitload of necrotic damage and inflicts poisoned>Raise Dead, which resurrects a dead person>Reincarnate, which resurrects a dead person>Create Undead, which summons a whole bunch of annoying summons>Eyebite, which can just put someone to sleep>Harm, which reduces max HP>Magic Jar, which lets you possess a creature>Finger of Death, which does shitloads of necrotic damage and can give you a zombie if you kill someone with no hard limit on how many zombies it can make>Resurrection, lets you revive the dead>Clone, which enables some of the most broken combos in the game>True Resurrection, which lets you revive the deadNecromancy has some of the best spells in the game you redditfrog spamming retard.
>>97814857Half of those spells are con saves. Rest are useless rp garbage
Animate dead is great if you have the pure autistic prowess to run all your skeletons in combat
>>97814690D&D 5e is shit. Play better games.
>frogspammer>utterly idiotic postsAs sure as sun rising.
>>97816240RED SUN OVER PARADISE
>>97814690Ask your DM to make good necromancy spells.Find a new group.Play a game that has good necromancy spells.D&D is shit, and nobody fucking cares.
>>97815229Retarded frognigger
>>97817529Frog board. Also your the retard for suggesting con saves spells
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>>97814803Underrated
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