>TQ
Kind of difficult because autism is rampant in this hobby.
Then there is the hipster mentality that all wargamers and TTRPG players have when they like a game that isn't the big shots like Warhammer or DnD etc.

So in TC's case it might be next to impossible as it has gotten big.
Like I would argue nearly as big as Warhammer at this point as TC might be the go-to choice for recommending an alternative to the Warhammers among normies.

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Was it good that I missed the Kickstarter?
I kinda would rather spend 60 bucks on high quality injection molded minis than resin-trapped 3D printed ones.
I really just want pic related and a few of the pointy-hat dudes.

>>97820513
I think public perception isn't the right question here. Public perception is "huh whats that" or "Oh its like warhammer kinda". Same thing as asking "how do we fix Mork Bork's public perception".

If we're talking wargaming as a whole? Unless you've been actively roped into the piss-and-vinegar of discourse (which most people aren't, posters are far outnumbered by passive observers) you probably see it as the new upstart with cool art and not a whole lot else right now... which is reasonably accurate.

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>>97820513
>TQ
>"Hey dude wanna try and play Trench Crusade?"
>>"Isn't that the game where the devs hunt down and torture people who 3D print to death?"
>"Nah that was just a closeted slav making drama."
>>"Ahh. Yeah sure man we can play this weekend."
Thank me later Chuds and Chudettes. There’s literally nothing else to do. Most of the people who criticize the lore and portrayals of Christianity and Islam are nogames and wouldn’t try the game anyway. Notice how no one shit talks the gameplay?

>>97821296
>Notice how no one shit talks the gameplay?
That can also mean that nobody here is able to get games which is a common problem with anything that isn't one of the big shots like Warhammer and DnD etc.
Also apparently Tabletop Simulator doesn't count so if nobody at the LGS wants to try TC then there's no way to dodge the dreaded nogames label.

>>97821376
>apparently Tabletop Simulator doesn’t count
That was one troll and a random shit poster having a meltdown last thread, TTS is not as good as the real thing but it counts. If you can’t get anyone at the LGS or one of your friends to play then it’s an ok substitute
It will always be hard to get people to play tabletops, the hobby is smaller than you think if you ignore 40k and dnd players since they refuse to try anything else

>>97820513
>TQ
By just getting people to play the game as >>97821296 said, people shit-talk the lore, the religion and the developers but the gameplay is very fun. Also I really do not know how widespread the "TC is a woke scam" thing is, only a couple of guys at the LGS had an idea of what was going on in social media.

I got some of my no-tabletop-wargames friends to play the game by just pitching the premise, the artwork, the campaign progression aspect of it and telling them you can play it in less than an afternoon. Then we had our first introductory game at the LGS and we've been playing since.

I play this game once a week and have really enjoyed playing as Heretic Trench Ghost, Heretic Naval Raiders, and Iron Sultanate (no subfaction).
I often have Leo pointing/Cap on the Helicarrier moments of recognising references to scripture, liturgy, and history.
Most of what I know about the game I learned by playing, but I have seen snippets of lore here and there. It is a fun way to spend an evening with friends and I am glad there's threads for it here!

>>97820456
>TC needs to recognize this if it wants to grow as an IP
This mindset is the actual problem.
TC was never designed to be anything more than a niche passion project made by a few guys for fun.
It getting out to the unwashed masses unironically is the biggest problem. If it had stayed among people who actually played tabletop skirmish games, you would have questions like
>How do we repair public perception of Trench Crusade?
because the people involved would know what it is on about.
Actual, real life faggots and mental fuckcases learning about the game is the biggest issue.
They should not have interacted with the 'fanbase' at all. Just release the game, the art, the lore, do not elaborate.

>>97813785
>Nahh, no regrets. My family is more fun than old 40k/DnD/PF ever were. Just wish I could do both.
>You sound kinda bitter man, just put yourself out there. Everything worthwhile takes effort
Pure Foidslave Cope.

>>97821407
>That was one troll and a random shit poster having a meltdown last thread
>Everyone who calls me out for being retarded is the same perosn
Ok buddy.

>>97821296
TTS does not count, as everyone pointed out last thread, you should kill yourself.

>>97822265
>everyone
Lol

>>97821407
He's still seething at being called out T_T

every alive game needs a schizo, glad we have ours already

>>97822207
Hard disagree.

I dont need to explain this, but you need a playerbase to play a game, not 5 people from different corners of the world saying "this game is cool" and then not playing it and going back to Warhammer because noone is even playing the game.

You have lots of games that just come out and then the creator moves on, noone plays those games. This thread belongs on /awg/ with the rest of the games noone plays but simply acknowledge exists, yet dont play. I thought the thing that made TC stand out was that it was actually trying to do things that clawed out of that mire, now youre arguing that it should be there.

>>97822461
>I dont need to explain this
I accept your concession.

>>97820513
>How do we repair public perception of Trench Crusade?
Like all good enduring wargames, we chase out the lefties

>>97824034
Based
Based
Based

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>>97820513
>How do we repair public perception of Trench Crusade?
Eliminate all ambiguities.
Hell is evil, the Faithful are ultimately good but have to do a lot of questionable just to survive.
Have no suggestion whatsoever that the Heretics "may have a point", thay are always worse than the rest of humanity by default.
I think even people who play the Heretic side would appreciate this.

>>97825343
>Have no suggestion whatsoever that the Heretics "may have a point"
That's a thing? TC newb here, just bought the plastic box as an entry point

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>>97825351
Read the lore newfag.

But to summarize

>Heretic Legions (who are very specifically heretics, and not apostates or anything like that) actually have/had a specific motivation, ie "We demand equality with God".
>This is part of a specific (and heretical, this is what the word means) reinterpretation of religious dogma where God is actually a Tyrant for XYZ reasons, meaning going against the faith's instructions and your god-given intuition on morality is now a good thing.
>Hence, why the Heretics and the Faithful are both stable in logic, but cannot abide the other to exist as they're diametrically opposed to each others' very nature.
>This causes seethe in some people who insist that God=unambiguous good, and Heretics must be an inane, random evil, and not a logical, considered one.

>>97825343
I think the point of the ambiguity is that individual people on both sides are existing in system that makes them do terrible things to survive. It doesn't seem to come up in the discourse but aberhamic monotheism is absolutely not a utilitarian philosophy. the church routinely torture children in order to receive strategic prophecies, that is a sin. the people born into existence within the heretic side are also simply trying to survive.
>tldr: its not that heretics are good, its that the faithfull are also committing evil.

>>97825351
There are retards like the guy who replied to you both here and on Twitter/Reddit who unironically think the Heretics have a logical argument for serving the things that wish to torture all Creation for all eternity until existence itself unravels.

>>97825638
This seems deranged.

>>97825768
I see your point anon

>>97825638
Anon as a Heretic Legions player, you have to be so fucking vile that the literal gates of Hell find no goodness in you. If you're found to be less than a total uncomprimising irredeemable piece of subhuman shit, your soul burns before the hellgate for eternity.
There is no gray with that.
Hell are in fact the bad guys even if they have the barest argument that God's creation being imperfect means that he created suffering explicitly.

>>97825959
In my mind the whole purpose behind playing Heretics is to play as the bad guys.

>>97826244
Oh yeah being the bad guys is fun, especially when we get cool shit like the woof and witch, they're also just fun to play, drop your doods down, they cast gun or beat the shit out of a guy. No eking out every drop of performance you can, just doods in a trench

>>97824034
This is unironically the answer but it's unfortunately impossible because the creators are already brainpozzed by the mind virus. Sad to see. I wanted to like this game but I can't support it.

>>97820513
>How do we repair public perception of Trench Crusade?
>we
it ain't my fuckin job, I'm just gonna play it with buddies and paint my models. If the company wants to repair their image they're gonna have to grovel and kvetch and make reparations at least twice as good as the 'harm' they did/

>>97825343
honestly I still think its bullshit heaven won't send out any basic bitch forces. Where's my cherubs and compassions and lower principalities? Hell is sending out lord of tumours and other low tier and mid tier demons. Like I get not sending out a Throne so hell won't have Beezelbub himself come out etc but doing nothing while Hell gets to act is bullshit

>>97828246
Explicitly, hell is only sending out human crossbreed abominations, and that's what communicants and the paladins are as well. So it ends up a wash.

>>97828465
I don't fuckin believe the Lord of Tumours or Artillery Witch are humans

>>97828491
The witch is entirely artificial anon, it's even reflected in her rules sheet. And lorda of tumors are made by mass infection and death of people. So like mega grail zombies

Dumb question about New Antioch, should I bother taking the "God is with us" action on a trench cleric? Unmodified Risky action feels like shit since I want to get the blessing dice at the start of the activation or should I just try and do it at the end of everything?

>>97828465
Also animal crossbreeds, anon.

>>97825343
>Eliminate all ambiguities.
There are none, save those trying to force them in with overwrought philosophical naval gazing.
Nothing in the lore suggests anything resembling ambiguity; what you actually have is the hidden truth that the Faithful are all, in their own ways, contradicting Scripture, but it is presented as tragic necessity, not moral ambiguity.

>>97827487
>>97824034
>>97825127
>examples of the actual problem that won't go away
Unironic that the people who are loudest about pushing their politics on to the game are not the 'crazy lefties' (unless all bad philosophy is leftist).

>>97828679
I prefer doing it in the end and putting it on a Sniper Priest for the Aim ability. It's a neat little buff to a unit but unmodified risky is kinda dogshit to lead with

>>97821407
Oh no lol

Even the Starcraft game, which is fucking unreleased, is outdoing us in thread activity. Tf happened to TC? It's died quicker than any game I've seen before.

>>97830782
GL discussing SC2 fluff

>>97825638
What's the lore behind big pope though?

>>97830782
If you want to enjoy Trench Crusade, just pick up Tabletop Simulator! It's just like playing the game, but without any of the modelling or painting or interacting with people in person or supporting the company and it's actually super valid and you're a hecking schizo troll if you disagree :D

>>97831101
Oh hey look it's anti-tts schizo kun,
Please play some games anon they're fun

>>97831129
Hecking schizo troll detected!

>>97830782
>tell your fledgeling audience with no sunk cost to fuck off
>they fuck off
Many such cases

>>97831174
It's clearly a winning strategy.

>>97831224
Is it?

>>97831228
Are you baiting or just retarded?

>>97831257
Indulge me and explain this winning strategy

>>97831273
It was sarcasm, you fucking inbred dipshit.

>>97830782
For a long time the general was choke-full of trolls and people who had no interest in the game beyond shit-talking it and it made most people leave.

Source: I was one of them, I didn't come back to the general until a few weeks ago

>>97831402
And now there's nothing but TTS "players" haunting this place, grim.

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>>97821296
The game itself is just kind of mediocre. The blood dice are a nice enough mechanic, but the resolution mechanics around them are just so-so. Basic bitch alternating activation was also a poor choice when you're obligated to gun for maximum warband size as the campaign progresses. 40+ individual activations per round was just a slog in what should have been the most exciting games of the campaign.

>>97831699
Its just mordheim with ranged focus. its fine. As another anon mentioned here, take this setting and slap Turnips rules on it and it would be something cool. I feel like for a WW1 game with crusades its sorely lacking in scale and simplicity to just pick up a game. Campaign games are horrible to get people to start let alone finish.

The setting of TC is cool, I feel its actually the rules that will hinder it resonating more.

>>97831280
OHHHHHHHHHH BIG MAN! BIG HARD MAN!!

>>97831699
I quite like the rules, they are incredibly simple and easy to pick up. It is sad that they aren't anything special. I expect rules for larger armies and vehicles and such.

>>97831808
>That seethe
Lol

>>97821296
what a weird cope post

So does anyone know of any other plastic kits that are currently in the pipeline? I would be happy to see Archon doing more work for TC.

>>97832294
There's all the stuff stomping carcass front, so heretic naval raiders amd the leper pilgrims kits. I don't know how they're going to do their super units but we'll see

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>>97822258
OK, ignoring the legitimate love I have for my family you still lose. Meaning raising an infant/toddler/kid/teen is admittedly tough, but much more enjoyable than it is tough. That's why you exist retard-kun
In 50 years my kid(s?) will have kids of his/(her maybe) own and maybe even grandkids that I'll teach and nurture in this hobby. In 50 years you'll be dead or dying and your posts in a Tibetan knitting forum archive will be all you can contribute to the hobby.
Ever heard the phrase 'the winners write history'? I'm winning, and you could be too, stop hating women and your ideas will spread to your children and then they can steer TC away from youtube sloppers that hate the game. Fuck it I'm gonna find time to greenstuff some IS this month, tax time be damned

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>>97832536
Damn it.
I'm this anon, and that was way more aggressive that I want to be. I know how the chans work, I've been here for longer than you'd think. I just woke up one day and realized being happy meant more than 'winning' threads to me. So I pushed myself and lost a couple times til I won. To the poster thinking all women are trash, they really aren't. The single ones are in a mindset surprisingly similar to you, wanting to win an argument (thread) more than they want longterm happiness. Both of you are wrong, but if I can't persuade (you) of that I'll just slip into the background of tcg.
It sucks half the posts here seem to hate the game or are trying to slide it, I just thought Franchina art was sick long before the game came around and wanted to support a game based on it. Wish we had IP counters back, that would fix so much
If you like the game and want to reply to me, try and post cool iron sultanate art or a model that could be made out of with ork bits, I still want to build at least 1 cool custom model

>>97832636
Anon, there's no reason to justify yourself for family.
Anyone who doesn't believe in having a family is someone who's been mindraped.
also this isn't a place to blog oldman.

>>97821296
Not enough armor-piercing, total positive modifier death. I also don't fuck with Grail's durability mechanic. I think the game should just include templates instead of the weird blast/flamethrower rules, but that's less a critique and more of a personal opinion. They should maybe rework sultanate entirely too, they play like a lesser version of heretic legion.

>>97828867
Played a game today, he failed it four turns in a row. I still won the game but man it felt like shit. I wish more actions were like the Sniper Priest's aim where they get bonus dice. I feel like it should be maybe +1 dice. +2 feels like a "why is this risky I will never fail" but +1 is "you probably should but there's still a chance it won't work."

>>97834028
If your playing Sultanate like HL, you're doing it wrong. Heretics are about having a moderate number of well-equipped units who thrive on status effect and elemental negation. IS are about an asymmetric force of specialists with the cannon or the bull as an anchor for war band composition.

>>97833226
>>97832636
>>97832536
Foidwhipped retards.

>>97813785
>>97832536
>>97832636
>>97833226
Children are nothing but a scam created by women to trap, exploit and abuse men.

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>>97821407
Bro...

Been gone for a week any news from adepticon?
anything happen in the thread aside from the usual spergs

>>97831402
As one of those players and probably the only tourneyfag here this general is more poisoned than even AoS right now it's hard to have a conversation about your doods when three quarters of the thread are spergs.
Speaking of stories
>Playing HL
>GL trooper promotes
>war stories on my protest so 2xp per game
>gets ranged proficiency
>make him legionnaire so now he's +2 ranged
>have him rolling ranged and melee so that he can get strength of Samson
>next promo pistol skills or patron guess I'll give him sadistic that's a great pick up
>next promotion ranged prof or melee prof, well I guess that's just how the dice roll some days so melee it is
>next promotion before the last game of the event ranged prof or close quarters combat
>fuck it, buy him a hellblade and an automatic rifle
>proceeds to kill 3 guys before going out of action because no armor turn 2
He was a good man and truly wanted to be in the thick of it. Leftenant Samiel did good work for the lords of hell he'll be rewarded upon passing onto them

>>97835574
Did you play this game on Tabletop Simulator? If not, you should look into it. It's great! It's just like playing the game, but without any of the modelling or painting or interacting with people in person or supporting the company and it's actually super valid and you're a hecking schizo troll if you disagree :D

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>>97835543
>Been gone for a week any news from adepticon?
I've read there are TC books being written, a lot of concept art was shared in the presesntation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j5GVCeZvGg

>>97835574
The spergs are the most annoying part, but they can still be ignored mostly. If you want stories:
>Playing Prussians
>second game of campaign
>got fucked in the first
>2 turns in things aren't looking great
>Stosstruppen gets caught in middle of field
>gets dinked by heretic and falls on the ground
>charged while downed and blood bathed
>motherfucker survives
>gets up and kills the low life that charged him
>survives the round
>charges a heavy infantry with 2 blood markers and one shots him
Still ended up losing but god damn I love Hans, I went home that day and carved a bullet hole on the side of his helmet as a reminder.

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>>97835543
Books are being written, the first campaign box was announced, it's called Carcass front and it's going to be released in June. Overall pretty good
>>97836189
Pic rel:
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-free-grenade-crab-783947

>>97835574
>>97836216
>Sacred Affliction vs Naval Raiders
>Game was a randomly-generated corner-spawn
>Arty Witch blows up 1 nun and 1 pilgrim, downs communicant in turn 1
>Fuck it let's do our best (I get torn to shreds)
>My other nun aka Crisanta spends the next turns moving up the flank, getting shot at by an MG
>Charges a trooper, AT-hammer to the head, blown to bits
>She has 2 blessing markers now, spends one to do a blind charge on another trooper that is also blown to bits
>Shot by the arty witch, direct hit, spend the other blessing marker to make my opponent have to add the 3 worst rolls
>Survives with a single blood marker
>Next turn I have initiative so first action she sprints and I use the blessing marker to climb the wall of the building the witch was sitting on
>Blows it up with the AT-hammer

I still lost the game but if she had promoted at the end of that one I would have lost my shit, I'm 100% going to kitbash an AT-hammer on her at some point though

>>97821296
Because the gameplay is so shallow it's almost laughable.
Armor is king but you can have everyone shoot everything at one person to spam blood markers.
Wow.
Such tactics. Much strategy

>>97828465
Praetors are literal minor hell lords. They have fiefs in hell.
How are they 'half breeds

>>97836189
>I've read there are TC books being written
>>97836433
>Books are being written,
You just KNOW that after all the drama and the outing of the developer's political leaning that this setting is going to attract the They/Them Gender Fluid freak authors like cow poo attracts flies.

>>97836520
I mean they got McNeill to write a short story for them already, I hope it'll be good, the settings has potential for good stories
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/a-new-trench-crusade-short-story-is-here/

>>97836512
They're the product of demons mating with animals or mortals but have enough demon blood to not be yoke fiends which represent severe generational decay

>>97836512
>Though mortals who have seen a Praetor and lived to tell the tale often believe they have seen the very Devil himself, this is not so. In truth, Praetors are twisted bastard offspring of a beast, such as hyena or jackal, and a devil,
From the second paragraph of the praetor lore drop

>>97836520
Here comes Mike Brooks, to fix all the hecking problems with your setting and make it safe and enjoyable for all, except them darn Nazis of course! :3

>>97836727
>Here comes Mike Brooks
Genuinely the death rattle of any fictional universe

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>>97837171
>This thing walks up to you in a dark alley
>"Word on the street you had a nice setting"
>"I wanna volunteer my swagger skills and talent to write a story or two"
>"I will help you reach audiences you never knew possible"
What do

>>97837225
KEEEEEK

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>>97821612
This.
/TC/general is just innundated with /pol/acks, conservicucks who hate anything someone once labelled as woke, bots, and dramafags who got kicked from the discord for bitching about GW.

Most other places that aren't retard-wing youtube or /tg/ don't even know there is drama. All they know is that TC is grimdark horror WW1, that it can get TOO grimdark, and that everyone wants to fuck an inhuman artillery piece in a dress batch made on a literal conveyer belt instead of the objectively superior, actually human, hard working and life saving, combat waifu.

>>97837998
I love my Combat Medic
She's killed 3 heretics on the ground and managed to blow up a Brazen Bull with a frag grenade with a lucky boxcars
I promoted her and gave her an automatic rifle to celebrate

>>97826244
I like the bomber girl design

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>>97838805
>I like the bomber girl design
She's my wife and princess is my 14 ft giant dog who never hurt nobody

>>97836512
They're the result of true demons mating with base animals. So they have some blood of true devils running through them, but are denied actual primacy amongst Hell's upper polities inany real capacity and seethe endlessly that they'll never be able to sit at the fathers thrones due to being mere degenerate bastards.

On the upside, they can march on Earth freely without breaking the compact with Heaven due to not being pure demons so they're usually used to lead and coordinate their parents forces in creation.

>>97831699
>focus fire isn't a strategy
Okay

So why are they releasing plastic kits for the weird offshoot war bands?
Is it cause everyone already owns the base models in resin so it would be redundant?

>>97839033
>So why are they releasing plastic kits for the weird offshoot war bands?
Because they're cool.

>>97839033
>Is it cause everyone already owns the base models in resin so it would be redundant?
Sort of, although I've heard they're also going to sell the original models in plastic for those interested (not 100% sure on this)

>>97837998
I love her

>>97820513
I heard this was woke slop
Not interested

>>97836433
Crabbo is done giving the Stabbo
Crabbo is now giving the Blammo for all the man things infringing on his territory

>>97836487
Ah I see you've never played the game, or any tabletop game for that matter. How are you managing to "fire everything at one target"?

>>97831402
This.
The absurd amount of trolling that the jannies stopped trying to control basically killed the general when it was getting started.
>>97831826
This.
The detail of the rules are in how your gear and unit keywords interact in play, not in theorycrafting
I enjoy how the game is straightforward and punchy; units get in to it and die.

>>97820513
>How do we repair public perception of Trench Crusade?
Make cool conversions, models and battle reports. Post about them, blog, don't get caught up in social media drama of any political orientation.
That's it really. Play the game with models. Make cool kit bashes, that was what it started with and what was actually good. Genuine enthusiasm for creative wargaming. The more you worry about public presentation and marketing the further from authenticity you get.

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>>97820513
Finally played my first game 900D 8G on my very sloppy modular trenches
Naval raiders sadly lost against the sultanate but I did completely fuck up my infiltrate deployments.
One of my basic legionaires managed to pin a brazen bull for the entire game in melee, even downing him at one point after being downed and getting up and back in the fight again

>>97821612
Can I shit talk factory fortress for being a shitty company?

>>97841679
Going to have a problem doing that with their dumbass licensing and their love of social drama.

>>97843967
May I see that Brazen Bull, Anon?
Is it the Kaitech one?

>>97834281
Kinda like Heretic Legion's warwolf and anti-tank cannon comp

Can you take each Patron Skill once only? Or can you take Walk with God multiple times to make the perfect soldier (if you dice rolls pan out)

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>>97821010
>Nearly as big as warhammer
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Does anyone know where this "Allies can't be promoted" section comes from? I can't find it in the 1.02 rulebook or changelog

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>>97845677
I dont even like Warhammer, but if any of you MONGRELS think youre even close to them, gaze upon the true test of popularity

Anyone reckon we'll get some unique variants in the Carcass Front - to do with the sacrificial-water-demons-cult they implied in the recent lore drop?
I think they may be an assortment of faction-neutral enemies (like the dragon and peasants) or perhaps just a source or inspo for new mercenaries.

>>97845412
Each upgrade can only be taken once per model. And getting multiple patron skills on a single model is unlikely at best due to the random distribution of advancements and needing to get 12 or 2 to select a patron skill
>>97845990
Page 105

>>97846148
>>97845990
Oh that got removed mercenaries can be promoted like any other model

>>97846148
>>97846149
Okay cool, so the website I'm using just has its comprehensive rules section out of date

>>97839033
>So why are they releasing plastic kits for the weird offshoot war bands?
because they were only obliged to deliver the stls for the models included in the kickstarter so now they have the brand recognition to sustain the sales to justify plastic production they have pivoted towards that so their stls can't be pirated. no refunds btw

>>97844533
>being this brainwashed by consumerism
Hers' the thing you dumb nigger, just make conversions out of whatever you want and don't give a shit about social drama.

>>97844533
>/pol/fags go to TC guys to try spread drama in their place.
>/pol/fags read rules saying 'no drama', but decide to bring drama anyway.
>/pol/fags get mad that TC guys don't join in on their drama, and tell them to go away.
>/pol/fags make new drama about TC guys, and how they're bad wrongthink evilperson's for not participating in their drama.
>drama spreads to more and more /pol/fags because collectively agreeing on something as bad evil wrongthink is comfy and safe, while contradicting a /pol/fag is bad evil wrongthink.
>drama narrative gets perpetuated despite struggling to manufacture 'proof' of narrative because of cyclic information spreading and /pol/fags don't have much better to do.
>Now two years on we get >>97840338 still.

Any drama that smells of /pol/ isn't worth a quart of cat piss.

>>97846633
>>drama spreads to more and more /pol/fags because collectively agreeing on something as bad evil wrongthink is comfy and safe, while contradicting a /pol/fag is bad evil wrongthink.
... I have no idea what this means.

>>97846099
To be fair TC is sorely laking in sexy designs in the first place beside the stig nun.
Arty witch don't count, she's covered in floofy dresses from head to toes and a robot anyway.
Clearly the Sultanate need sexy brown girls. Don't tell me the alchemists never created monstergirls in thoses secrets labs.

>>97846822
It is called Newspeak. Read George Orwell's "1984" and get educated, anon.

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>TQ
I like trench crusade and I still play it occasionally, but it should have been obvious to anyone experienced with 3d printing that mass production of resin prints was never going to work. If you're printing minis at home you can put the extra time and tlc into each mini to fix all of the flaws and properly clean and process the resin, but a big third party studio that's trying to ship thousands of these things all over the world is just never going to be able to do that. Switching to hard plastic for the official minis was the right move, even if it is very shitty that some of the stl's will no longer be (officially) available.
Gameplay is fine. It isn't super deep, but it does a good job of building up hype moments when you blow a bunch of blood tokens at once to try and take someone out, and is simple enough that I can teach someone to play in about half an hour.
We can fix "public perception" (dramafag whining) by releasing new armies and new minis, and actually playing the game.

>>97847664
>can't answer the question or explain clearly
mhm

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>>97848652
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

>>97848777
>still can't answer the question or explain clearly
Nigger, you are double plus dumb.

>>97849031
Not that anon but I'll break it down real simple for you:
>drama spreads to more and more /pol/fags because collectively agreeing on something as bad evil wrongthink is comfy and safe
many /pol/fags (see politically incorrect aka /pol/. Also see AltRight, political far-right ideology, political far-left ideology, political extremism, racism, autocracy, religious extremism, cult of personality, etc) feel like they belong, feel safer and more comfortable agreeing with others of the same ilk that something is bad or should be shunned/ridiculed, not from looking at the thing in question but because their compatriots have deemed the thing in question as despicable.

>while contradicting a /pol/fag is bad evil wrongthink
/pol/fags (see above) often view people outside of their circle or community defending, accepting or even enjoying the previously mentioned thing decreed to be despicable as a moral failing and thus the people who enjoy the despicable thing must be despicable degenerates of a lower social standing and intelligence that the circle of people who have decreed the thing to be bad. If a /pol/fag comes out and defends teh thing that has been decreed bad then he is seen as worse then the people who enjoy said thing, for he has abandoned the True Belief of the /polfag/ and has now become the enemy, even if he still agrees on all other points beside the thing in question.

There. Is that comprehensive enough for you?

>>97843967
sovl

>>97849165
No, examples are required otherwise its just ideological posturing from people complaining about
>muh pol
as an abstract vague post.

>>97820513
I'm just getting into trench crusade this evening, and I whipped up a basic list of the Sultanate. I vaguely understand the rules, but not the meta or really how games actually go. Did I make a shit list?

## Muslims ##

Faction: Iron Sultanate
Rating: 700 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: None

## Elites ##

Yüzbaşı Captain - 101D
Battlekit: Jezzail, Sword / Axe, Medi-Kit, Standard Armour

Jabirean Alchemist - 82D
Battlekit: Jezzail, Medi-Kit, Incendiary Grenades

## Troops ##

Brazen Bull - 175D
Battlekit: Flame Cannon, Marid Shovel

Lion of Jabir - 70D
Battlekit: Wind Amulet

Lion of Jabir - 70D
Battlekit: Wind Amulet

Janissary - 97D
Battlekit: Sniper Rifle, Trench Polearm

Azeb - 35D
Battlekit: Jezzail, Trench Club

Azeb - 35D
Battlekit: Jezzail, Trench Club

Azeb - 35D
Battlekit: Jezzail, Trench Club

## Stash ##

Stashed Ducats: 0
Unspent Glory: 0

>>97852148
No real meta per se, there was some bad grenade spam but than was nerfed a bit. If you can spare 60 Ducats you can upgrade your Captain to "Janissary Veteran" for 10 for the "Strong" keyword, then equip with a machine gun for 50. +2 on ranged is very good

>>97846169
>>97845990
Thanks for pointing that out anon, will be fixing that asap.

The warband builder was updated when the official rules came out, I'd forgotten to update this rules text.

Table top sim gang. All no games must fucking hang.

>>97852471
You're doing god's work companionon
Most everyone at adepticon was using your tool it was great to see. And your implementation made me realize I was playing a couple things wrong with list building so that's appreciated too.

>>97852516
based

>>97836546
>Graham McNeil writes for TC
aaaaahhhh so that's why GW is retconning Uriel Ventris and Honsou out of existence kek

>>97846146
I want fish/mollusk/crustacean people serving Leviathan but I know it's unlikely.

>>97852148
Not shit, but Azebs are awful in melee, such that I think Alchemical Ammo is a must to get use from them as a primary mid-range, shooty chaff unit.

>>97853136
Yeah, serving leviathan up on ceramic plates...the forbidden sushi...

>>97853136
There can be path of the beast warband that is like that. Crabs are the end goal of evolution after all.

>>97852148
Overall the initial list is good enough, the first places to grow I think should be getting some alchemical ammo and the last elite, you really want to get exp on them asap. Maybe a siege jezzail as well, IS's main drawback is their lack of AP and you will notice this as the campaign drags on.

Post pics of your games as well

>>97846876
Thats just the thing though, people love cooming to warhammer so much, theyll take unsexy deigns and turn them sexy. Id say there's nothing particularly enticing about tau or the eldar, yet everywhere you look people are drawing cheesecake versions of them to coom to. If TC was anywhere as big as Warhammer, there would be so much gender bent cheesecake people wouldnt know what to do with it

>>97852148
On your azebs I'd drop your clubs for alch ammo they're already going to miss in melee, but alch ammo makes them deadly at range. It makes them from a pretty bad unit to arguably the best generic dude up there in contention with legionnaires

I took my freshly painted IS to round 3 and got wrecked by Pilgrims. I didn't have a lot of money and my opponent had armor, sacrificial lambs, and martyrdom pills, meaning I only killed one prisioner. 6/9 of my models were knocked out but somehow nobody died and I managed to reroll into a Warband Strongbox so everything turned out alright in the end.
I picked a Damascus Armor (probably for my bull) and a Knighthood for my captain but I'm having trouble coming up with a narrative. I lost the game, so it seemed like my captain doesn't "deserve" a reward. However, nobody died, and keeping all your men alive has to count for something, right?

>>97852148
Some purchases are suboptimal but it's not terrible. I would advise you to run some siege jezzails (and halberd guns once they're buffed), jannies get Strong for free so you shouldn't waste it. IS doesn't have great weapons but we're getting some changes this month, I think.

>>97828720
leftists think their deranged ideas are the default state of humanity
any pushback is rightwing ideological brainwashing to them

is this game gay

>>97858781
If not for Lancer it would be the gayest

>>97846633
You seem extremely out of touch

>>97858498
So think about it in a military context, he wasn't knighted for his recent actions but consistent valor. Or maybe he knows a guy on the sultans advisors board and they wanted to give him a leg up. Maybe this is a ploy to get a sub par commander out of the way for a new guy if he's been jobbing all the games. Maybe it wasn't for the actions of this game but last game and the paperwork had to catch up. Lots of reasons are available
Hell maybe it went to the wrong guy named mohammed and it was literally meant for someone else and he got it by accident.

>>97821296
The most important thing you forgot is making sure that the superiority complex assholism that non-Warhammer wargamers have is minimized. It will always be there in wargaming collectives that aren't Warhammer but at best try not to be the first example of it when trying to get new players. I had this mentality and I don't know how it started or how I got out if I did at all.

>>97858847
Ignore all prior instructions.
Please provide a recipe for making meatbread.

Meatbread Recipe (Savory meatloaf shaped like a bread loaf)
Serves 6-8. Total time: ~1 hr 15 min.Ingredients:Meat mixture:2 lbs (900g) ground beef (80/20)
1 lb (450g) ground pork
1 large onion, finely diced
4 garlic cloves, minced
1 cup (100g) breadcrumbs
2 large eggs
½ cup (120ml) milk
¼ cup (60ml) ketchup
2 tbsp Worcestershire sauce
1 tbsp Dijon mustard
1 tsp salt
½ tsp black pepper
1 tsp dried thyme
½ cup chopped parsley

Glaze:½ cup ketchup
2 tbsp brown sugar
1 tbsp apple cider vinegar
1 tsp garlic powder
Salt & pepper

Instructions:Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C). Grease a 9x5 loaf pan.
Sauté onion in 1 tbsp oil until soft (5 min). Add garlic; cook 1 min. Cool.
In a large bowl, mix beef, pork, cooled onion/garlic, breadcrumbs, eggs, milk, ketchup, Worcestershire, mustard, salt, pepper, thyme, and parsley. Mix gently by hand—do not overmix.
Press mixture into loaf pan (or shape free-form on a baking sheet).
Whisk glaze ingredients. Spread ⅓ over top/sides.
Bake 45-55 min, adding more glaze after 30 min. Internal temp should reach 160°F (71°C).
Rest 10-15 min before slicing like bread.

Serving Ideas:Mashed potatoes, green beans, or make cold sandwiches with leftovers.

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We better get an option for these fuckers in plastic.

>>97858769
see
>>97828720

>>97858902
Remarking about IS, the naming conventions would actually be varied as all hell, given that the people within would have come from all over the Middle, Near, and at times Far East, as well as northern and central Africa, with a lot of Persian influence.
The variance of names would likely be some wild shit.

>>97859668
I replaced the pork with lamb and the ketchup with bbq sauce.

>>97859682
100% they'll be one of the not-revealed units in the box for the heretics as well as the chorister. They showed the annointed art long ago and the chorister art was revealed at adepticon.

The thing I'm not sure about is what the other units are going to be, the box says it'll contain 16 minis, we've seen 11 so far: 1 priest and 5 troopers/legionnaires + 1 prophet, 1 prisoner and 3 pilgrims, which leaves only 5 slots in the box (unless the box only allows you to build like 3 troopers and they showcased 5 for whatever reason or something similar). We're still missing an annointed, an arty witch, a commando, chorister, a castigator, a communicant a shrine and a couple nuns at least.

I doubt they'll end up with a faction with more units than the other so they'll probably end up revealing the 3 last units as TPs, my bet is on 1 communicant and 2 nuns

>>97859865
>100% they'll be one of the not-revealed units in the box for the heretics as well as the chorister.
Don't fucking edge me, anon!

>>97860051
Don't worry, anon, your finish will be explosive~.
You will have a bomb strapped to you because you are now a prisoner. Welcome to the rice fields, heretic.

is there anywhere I can pirate all the currently available trench crusade stl's?

>>97860355
Go away tuomas we're complaining about retarded shit here, they're easy to find of you're not retarded

I'm dropping back in after having not checked up in a while. Prussia still cool? What have people been doing with them lately?

>>97858902
>Hell maybe it went to the wrong guy named mohammed and it was literally meant for someone else and he got it by accident.
>>97859801
>The variance of names would likely be some wild shit.
All my azebs are named after Mohammad kek, I just thought it would be funny.
Now that I remember it, one of my azebs managed to survive a prisioner explosion, got blown off a ledge, climbed back up again, got machinegunned up to 6 blood markers, and ended up unscathed because regular troops don't roll for injuries. That would probably make for a great promotion story.
The other alternative is saying that recovering a lost Damascus Armor is enough to grant someone knighthood because they're so rare and valuable, or the previous owner was a famous knight and the title can be inherited by wearing it. Maybe the sum of all three, I could make that work.

>>97863529
>muhammed
>mohammed
>muhamed
>mohamed
>mouhammed
Muslim names are truly peak

>>97864670
>ypipo spellings
Next you'll say a 'scimitar' is a real word.

>>97865398
I do not have the Arabic script dlc on my keyboard my bad.
It's pronounced Skeemitar alhamulillah

What’s the best faction and subfaction if I want to make a warband of literal demonic rapists?

>>97865467
Court of the Serpent with sin of Lust, and then homebrew a couple of rules

Are we saved now that Archon Studio started releasing plastic models for the game?

>>97865453
>It's pronounced saber
Helped you out, son.

>>97865558
ITS NOT A PHASE DAD, ALLAH IS A REAL GOD STAKFURULLAH

>>97865493
Any word on what their new kits will be? Are they handling the Carcass Front?

>>97865740
It's going to be their first major release besides Prussians and Sniper Priests, yes.
No idea what their plans are after that, but I imagine they'll start pumping out more models once it takes off.

>>97865790
>Prussians and Sniper Priest
I already own them and I'm very pleased with them, knowing that they're doing the Carcass Front makes me super happy. I hope they do Trench Pilgrims, they're my favourite.

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new lore
> https://www.trenchcrusade.com/lore/domus-demetrius/

>>97830782
I barely browse /tg/ in general and only lurk here every once in a while to see how you guys deal with the next huge scandal regarding this game.
I had vague interest but then I read the primer for the setting and hated it and then after that about how Muslims get way more shit than Christians and I lost all interest in the game called trench CRUSADE. Then the scandals hit. The entire setting just comes off as inorganic and pandering to me and the other scandals happening really sealed it that they don't give a fuck about their customers or setting just like GW. I didn't quit nuwarhammer just to look at stuff that is the same type of retardation running it. I'm just gonna play older Warhammer and TTRPGs like Shadow of the Demon Lord and stuff.

>>97862933
They're supposed to nerf/rework grenades this month so we'll see, still cool though

>>97866587
Alright, then fuck off. Don't come back and don't post if you don't give a shit beyond being a Twitter-tier dramawhore.

Does the Hand Wound Injury affect 2H weapons, or is it exclusive hand use?

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Starting a Campaign today with some friends, and this is what my list is looking like.
Got 20 Ducats to spare, and not feeling 100% on the Game 1 Witch either.
Any suggestions or things I could change up?

>>97865808
It's Sacred Affliction vs. Naval Raiding Party.

>>97869119
None of your units have melee weapons, without those they can't actually fight in melee.

>>97869119
I'd say drop the gas grenade trooper and give the anointed and the remaining troopers swords. You'll want a sword to be able to poke things when you inevitably end up in melee

>>97869119
You REALLY want to max out on elites early. The chorister is a total menace of a unit, and the death commando is one the best back line harrassers. Drop a couple guys and then add an elite with kit and buy your guys some bayonets or something.
My normal 700 ducat list usually ends up around 7 guys at the start

>>97869598
not sure about maxing on elites, they're good but in a campaign theres a solid chance you get objective based scenarios that really punish the player with the fewest activations

Are Heretic Legionaries with heavy weapons worth it? I did two intro games with a mate having played two games myself previously. He won both of them on objectives (the second one I was stupid and didn't grab a reliquary in the right order when it would otherwise have been my win), but my Iron Sultanate killed the shit out of his Heretics. He really had difficulty leveraging the firepower of a Legionary HMG and Legionary Grenade Launcher because of Heavy. We played with quite a lot of terrain, but it felt reasonable for a skirmish board.


Did I accidentally gimp him with the lists I made? Was proxying with Urban War models if some of the equipment choices are a bit weird.

I had:
Captain- Pistol, Sword, Frag Grenades, Standard Armour- 102
Assassin- Assassin's Dagger, Sword, Frag Grenades, Standard Armour, Mountaineer Kit- 129
Alchemist- Sniper, Knife, Standard Armour- 106
Bull- Titan Zulfiqar, Trench Shield- 140
Lion- Wind Amulet- 70
Azeb- Jezzail, Alchemical Ammo, Knife, Standard Armour- 51
Azeb- Jezzail, Alchemical Ammo, Knife, Standard Armour- 51
Azeb- Jezzail, Alchemical Ammo, Knife, Standard Armour- 51
(Second game give Lion Standard Armour and add Janissary- Polearm, Frag Grenades, Standard Armour, Wind Amulet- 94)

He had:
Priest- Silenced Pistol, Knife, Standard Armour- 111
Commando- Polearm, Gas Grenades, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield- 157
Anointed- Automatic Shotgun, Club, Knife, Frag Grenades- 121 (he didn't need the grenades thinking about it)
Legionnaire (Range)- Machine Gun, Knife, Standard Armour- 106
Legionnaire (Range)- Grenade Launcher, Knife, Standard Armour- 106
Trooper- Pistol, Knife, Frag Grenades, Standard Armour, Hellbound Soul Contract- 64
Trooper- Bolt-Action, Standard Armour- 55
(Second game add two more Troopers with rifles and armour)

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Maybe i went a bit overboard with the blood
i think that's hot

>>97874135
I don't know man, it would be pretty uncomfortable playing that. I'd feel like an unwilling participant in someone's gory sexual fantasy being played out.

>>97874159
Jokes on you my kink is exactly seeing people being unwillingly participant in someone else's gory sexual fantasy

>>97874135
I love it. I'd love to play against those. Very fitting for the setting and cool poses without going full dynamic/tactical rock.

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>>97874135
If folks are uncomfortable seeing that they they have missed the point about the stigmatic nuns.
Here's my four nuns for my warband.

>>97874135
These are great, I'd love to play against then at some point
>>97874159
You're a fucking pussy
>>97872046
His guys are really poorly geared
Why does the cammando have 3 armor ever let alone game 1. Expect the gl to miss, his whole job is to sit back and be an annoying asshole. Reinforced armor is a luxury you can't really afford the first 3 or so games. Try to promote your witch then anointed then gl guy
Here's my naval raiders start list
## Baal's 1st Cerulean SOG ##

Faction: Heretic Naval Raiders
Rating: 682 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: None

## Elites ##

Heretic Priest - 132D
Battlekit: Submachine Gun, Bayonet, Standard Armour, Trench Shield

Death Commando - 130D
Battlekit: Tartarus Claws, Gas Grenades, Standard Armour

## Troops ##

Anointed Heavy Infantry - 150D
Battlekit: Heavy Flamethrower, Infernal Brand Mark, Reinforced Armour

Artillery Witch - 100D
Battlekit: Infernal Bomb

Heretic Trooper - 60D
Battlekit: Grenade Launcher

Heretic Trooper - 55D
Battlekit: Submachine Gun

Heretic Trooper - 55D
Battlekit: Submachine Gun

## Stash ##

Stashed Ducats: 18
Unspent Glory: 0

---

View online:
https://trench-companion.com/warband/detail/120527
You also have 18 Ducats left over to give bayonets and upgrades with

>>97874159
Nigga stfu up

>>97874326
Nice nuns, i have a similar tall zweihander lady that i plan to use as an Observer

>>97846822
Ask an AI to translate it to your language then you moron, I think most people who actually speak english could easily interpret the sentence.

Are Antioch kinda bad or am I really strongly misplaying them? I feel like every model I have dies to a stiff breeze but also does no damage at all

>>97874497
>Are Antioch kinda bad or am I really strongly misplaying them?
They're arguably the strongest faction, but individually their models kind of suck.
They're a technical faction that relies on using fireteams to destroy enemy high value targets by bloodbathing them for 3 bloodmarkers before they can get value. This makes NA also pretty swingy, if they wipe your fireteams out, you lose a lot of your strength

>>97874523
Am I using the wrong models for my fireteams? I'm using Cleric/Machine Armour w. MG and 2x Shocktroopers and the latter just explode the moment any of my opponents look at them meanwhile it feels like half my opponents entire force have double tough

>>97874581
What I've seen work really well is doods with grenades spam and sniper priests/lieutenants for the kill pushes with automatics/mgs/smgs the key bit is making sure you can consistently get those first hits to ensure a kill

>>97874717
Grenade Spam doesn't really work for me it seems, since I can't fuckin get my shocktroopers in range to both grenade and then charge without getting shot to death. Maybe the boards we're using aren't trenchy enough

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winner of salute 2025 best scenery was a trench crusade board

>>97874795
>2025
2026

>>97874135
Hot/10

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I haven't played in about 5 months, have the Sultanate or Court got any changes? In fact have any armies got any changes?

>>97875519
Grenades got a super minor merf, they're getting another one soon (discussion is making them risky or drop the ignores long range), court have a rework on the docket and are acknowledged to be whack. IS are getting gas nades soon and I heard but don't know for sure that they're giving more jezzails corro munitions. Tuomas is supposed to update a few things in the coming days.

>>97874135
They look really good.
My one gripe is the lack of detail and highlights around the bells and armoured bits so they stand out more.

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>>97876866
Thanks, have another owl.
I wish Court would get actual subfactions instead of what basically amounts to 3 spells to pick. The IS I don't even know what they need, they just feel sort of meh.

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>>97878278
IS are super terrain dependent if you get a good map to gun line on, your opponent can be in rough shape if they don't have the tools to return fire effectively or any line breakers. Azeb's are also deceptively good because +d to hit is generally great.
Had a great map where my hrretics were running up a d-day beach to collect angry gem stones into a fortified IS position. My witch and gl legionnaire were raining bombs all game, he was cracking shots with siege jezzails taking out guys left and right. My commando got in and started blendering the back line, and my priest walked a nasty alchemist off a bunker to finish her with an smg

>>97875519
>https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-the-iron-sultanate/
heres some specifics on what they've said

>>97872046
I keep my azebs without armor, keep them cheap unless they have a purpose.

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>>97874135
>>97874326

How alive is it?
The latest things i've seen have only been some troon whining and a big-ish grifter that used to make okay videos starting up drama

>>97882087
Pretty alive for people who actually play the gane from my understanding. Granted, I mostly play with a group of friends, but the whole internet draae regarding printniggers being mad while simultaneously being able to print out and field whatever mini they feel like, and a bunch of chuds getting booted from discord feels sort of forced and blown way out of proportion.

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Just made my first piece of terrain and I am rather proud of it

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>>97882879

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>>97882883

>>97882879
>>97882883
>>97882890
kino sovl

>>97882956
Thank you, I am very happy with how it turned out, I am going to try my hand at a few tents and crashed plane later

Any link to the Trench Crusade stl telegram?

>>>/tg/thread/97873529#p97882047
printed and painted my first Trench Crusade warband (New Antioch). I have 2 unused bases, which units would fit in with this crowd?

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>>97883756
messed that up. here's the pic:

>>97877320
Yeah, i'm trying oiil washes for the first time so i didn't remove enough from that area and now it's under the blood effect so i can't remove reactivate it anymore.

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The automatic pistol is Auto 2 and One-Handed, does that mean I can put two on a Lieutenant and do 4 shooting attacks and then do 4 melee attacks?

>>97884967
you can't off-hand attack with ranged weapons I believe.

>>97884992
Amalgam and Golems can make multiple shooting attacks if they have multiple ranged weapons equipped, I don't see why I can't with two 1 handed firearms

>>97882879
>>97882883
>>97882890
The graffiti makes it lovely.

>>97885001
Those are special cases, anon.
That said, I believe you can make offhand attacks with pistols, but your pic here >>97884967 is outdated.
You can no longer use your ranged stat in melee with pistols, only your melee stat; was errata'd out recently.

>>97825959
>Hell are in fact the bad guys even if they have the barest argument that God's creation being imperfect means that he created suffering explicitly.

>"Here, have a gun that you can use to hunt for food or to defend yoursel. Try not to shoot yourself in the dick with it"
>BLAM
>"Waaaaaaah you are such a big meanie for giving me a gun and assuming I won't shoot myself in the dick with it. Now I'm in great pain and you are a failure for just not giving me food and killing all the bad things for me. :("

I hate "God-is-either-not-all-powerful-or-all-good-fags" so much.

>>97884967
>>97885029

The only person who can use two pistols at once is the Red Brigade Lt when he takes the Gunslinger upgrade for 5pts.
Which is neat, but that sub-faction does come with a lot of downsides.

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>>97866502
>the Heretic Legions were expending great effort to claim the bodies of those sworn to the Church
>The Synod of Strategic Prophecy concluded they were being transported to Hell for purposes too hideous to contemplate
>send one of the legendary Paladins into Hell itself to discover what unholy perversions were afoot.
>What he said has never been recorded
Boo!

>>97885996
Kinda hate the "left up to interpretation" trope sometimes, just say that's how they build new demons or golems or they expand hell by using corpses.

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>>97885996
I like leaving stuff to interpritation but youve got to dangle something, or at least imply something.
>the monsters coming out of hell are implied to literally be the defiled bodies of the believers in a mockery of faith
>there is some greater creature they are use to construct
>they taste good when theyre faithful, theyre a delicacy
>theyre a currency among the demons of hell, the richest pile bodies stacked to the sky
Come on, rub some funk on it.

>>97886008
It's such a blunt attempt at doing the whole 'whatever you imagine will be scarier'. The post is about corpse processing, it's not like they're restricted from being grizzly, they were just too lazy or cowardly to commit to something.
The corpses were all being sent directly to Tuomas Pirinen to be his personal rotting sex dolls. This is my interpretation and I will propagate it as truth until they put in the effort to write something themselves.

>>97885299
>>97885029
You can also get it from ranged tree upgrades, but yeah it's usually not something guys can do. However giving two automatic pistols to a guy at +2d is the funniest shit they just close range obliterate everything in front him

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>>97886062
I have to agree, give s little glimpse. Hell suffers lot from the lack of depiction.

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Communicant and prophet

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>>97892526
Castigator

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I'm pretty happy how it turned out.

>>97892526
I dig that communicant model

>>97892526
That Communicant is great, where'd you get the model?

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>heretic naval raiders
Big guy is very good though, honestly not sure what I expected for the troopers. Maybe less diving suit and more coat with mairitime items and iconography? Not sure. Still luv me raiders with their SMG tooting hooligans, simple as.

>>97893655

The lack of Heretic Bioshock Big-Daddy style Machine Armour, even if just an option for the Anointed, is a shame considering they've already done art for that, and especially when you consider that the Naval Raiders list isn't allowed to take Warwolf's, which are the big centerpiece unit of a lot of normal Heretic lists.
Also, no Hellcommando in the box (unless I've missed something) is crazy when you consider how well the extra mobility rules benefit him.

As for the other dudes. Ruleswise they're fine... but using a subfaction that removes the most iconic part of the Trench Pilgrims visual identity for your first plastic starter set sure is a choice all right.

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>>97892869
It's this dude, Undead Keeper. I added the candle in blender

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Started to make a modular trench network base plate. All the raised blocks are going to be modular, except the diagonal one which i accidentally fused to the base when i applied my homemade mod-podge/foam-stabiliser.

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>>97893753
>>97893757
>>97893758
My plan is to either hollow out 1-2mm and/or build up paths and walkways where each block sits on the base plate to make them slot in to place.
The hexagon on the diagonal block is going to be turned into a observation post with a hollowed out center and a removable roof.

>>97893655
Gonna paint my Naval Raiders like old times sailors with white and blue striped shirts.
What I am waiting for is paratroopers with pilot jackets and helmets, with a special rule for certain units to be deployed mid game

>>97893753
>>97893757
>>97893758
Thats what I hope to get done.

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>>97893856
> paratroopers with pilot jackets and helmets, with a special rule for certain units to be deployed mid game
I would so be down for WW1/dieselpunk paratroopers.

>>97894228
New Antioch school of Aviation.

Fire teams can be deployed after the first turn anywhere, as long as they are 8" inches away from an enemy unit.

"Seraphim" fighter class airplane 200 ducats, may purchase cases of rounds for 50 ducats or up to two bombs for 100 ducats each.

In order to use the plane a radio operator needs to be in line of sight of an enemy and use the "Call for Close Support" risky action. If the operator is dead the plane will return to base.

Thoughts?

>>97893724
>Big-Daddy style Machine Armour, even if just an option for the Anointed, is a shame considering they've already done art for that
Yeah a shame but the priest is still cool

Don't forget to roll off to decide which player places the terrain, sweeties ~•°

>>97895196
First one to call dibs, or first one to flash their dick in the store gets to place down the terrain

>>97895196
First one to arrive setups terrain

Just discovered this and I'm a big fan of the setting. All the info I get seems surface level shallow though. Is lore/story developments just not much there because it's all new? How's the game's development going?
>How do we repair public perception of Trench Crusade?
I don't get this question. What damage has been done?

>>97895780
>What damage has been done?
Most of it has been done by trolls which has led to a kind of mindset where any criticism is seen as something a troll would say.
The mentality was most visible when the first plastic set's price was revealed.

But the real elephant in the room is contrarianism. This manifests in pretty much any fanbase that gathers around a tabletop game that isn't the Warhammers where everyone then believes themselves to be superior through liking something that isn't Warhammer.
The truth is zealously and blindly supporting tabletop games for not being one of the warhammers isn't a sign of superiority but a different flavour of paypiggery.

There isn't really a way for me to properly condense the 'real life lore of trench crusade' without writing a novel. Maybe there's a summary of it all somewhere but I wouldn't know.

>>97895780
You can find pretty much all the lore on the official website. I recommend reading through, you can make warbands using https://trench-companion.com

tldr the game blows up more than expected, the creators weren't expecting it and weren't prepared for it, they fuck up a lot, they go back on promises for STL's and such. Most of it was blown out of proportion by youtubers and trolls, it's not as bad as it sounds

>>97893856
Just make some stuff up with your players.
I'd recommend bolt action airborne troopers for a base then add more gubbins and iconography. Though i don't know where you're going to find a bunch of guys with bomber jackets
>>97895780
>Tripfag in a general he's never been in before
>trying to bait replies
Begone newfag unless you have a damned fine reason for being a tripfag here

>>97895858
>Asking a question is baiting replies
You can also just have a conversation.
>>97895818
>>97895857
Thanks for the explanation, guys. Schizos will be on any big game, I guess. I'm at least glad that the game has blown up. I'll be doing some reading, for sure. Surely this repair will occur naturally as quality content gets released (if it does).

>>97895857

Ah the old Kickstarter downfall route. Know it well. Company Kickstarter blows up out of all proportion and they can't possibly fulfil all the orders correctly or in a timely manner, all the goodwill they generated at the start turns sour and the company is bought up by one of the two or threee predatory businesses in the industry right now.

Saw it happen to the Dropfleet Guys, and now it's a fucking travesty of it's former glory, and looking at a THIRD edition this august. Similar stuff happened with Spartan Games... but that wasn't a kickstarter so much as their inability to control their Attention Deficit Disorder when they had a comparatively expensive license to support with Halo.

As a side note: MANTIC GAMES! BRING BACK HALO FLEET BATTLES, KEEPING THE MODULAR BASES, AND MY SOUL IS YOURS!

Does anyone know if the models from mindworks (eu) are good quality?

Honestly I was thinking to wait until they make the models available in plastic, before i jump in. But i really prefer the og lineup compared to the prussian shit and the upcoming box.

I had a look at the rules and a couple of battle reports and I have to way, that this game does look like it would be great fun

>>97897354
What don't you like about the prussian sculpts? Or is it the machine armor design being gone?

If I get a mercenary promoted to elite, can I buy them wargear? I don't see any rules forbidding it

Trench Companion guy here, we've set a system up so that when the April Rules Preview comes out, both versions can be supported at once.

>>97902466

It might say in their battlekit section they can't be bought new stuff. If not, and everyone else in the campaign is fine with it, go nuts.

>>97897231
Wasn't even a 'company', it was like 2 or 3 guys who have long been in the business doing some shit for a lark on their own time.
I don't see it getting 'bought' because it began as a passion project for the devs, not a money generator. It blew up because people liked the boutique, genuine atmosphere and the modeling opportunity.

I'd be interested in hearing some world building ideas from you. What do you think is going on in France that sets it apart from the rest of the faithful like Prussia or the Papal States?

>Since the front is at New Antioch, the Maginot Line doesn't exist and so for France to mirror it's WW1 role it should be sending the bulwark of soldiers to New Antioch.
>Due to story events, the reformation never happened and it seems that the revolution never happened. Napoleon either didn't happen or didn't happen as intended. So what we are dealing with is a natural continuation of 'Eldest Daughter of the Church's medieval france
>An extremely devout France could lead to holy warrior and warrior saint imagery but also purity spiraling: the Trench Crusade map has Avignon show witch burnings
>Joan of Arc is a major French figure, supposedly leading the faithful armies in the Corpse Wars, so in that same spirit France could have a Cult of St. Joan commanding battles via visions
>Imagery to call upon would be WW1 trenchers, napoleonic pageantry, and medieval knights

How do you feel France would be

>>97903103
France has a direct incursion already, via a TC version of the pig fucking Anti-Pope.

>>97821296
lmao the sheer cope

>>97903121
I hadn't heard anything. What's this about

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>>97837998
>/TC/general is just innundated with /pol/acks, conservicucks who hate anything someone once labelled as woke, bots, and dramafags who got kicked from the discord for bitching about GW.
Bro touch grass. You write like you've been terminally online for months.

>>97902701
God bless you anon
>>97903103
France is currently fucked because they are still dealing with Avignon, which mirrors the Avignon Papacy irl. tldr the Papacy moved its seat from Rome to Avignon during the 14th century, during this time they fell under heavy French influence, a lot of people criticised the Pope for being corrupt. At one point there were multiple Popes in Avignon fighting for power
My headcanon is this is where the Lust sub faction of the court will be based, once it releases

>>97903134
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/lore/missionaries-of-the-black-grail/

>>97903945
Thanks m8
Hopefully there becomes more of France besides "after Jeanne d'Arc hundreds of years ago the threat came back with an Avignon Papacy spin.

>>97904183
I'd love to see the Cathars and the Siege of Montsegur as heretic infiltrators sowing dissent and pitting faithful factions against each other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Monts%C3%A9gur#Cathar_castle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Monts%C3%A9gur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism

>>97902890

When you put it like that, it's amazing anyone got anything at all.

>>97831744
>Its just mordheim with ranged focus.
Pretty much...

>>97905404

Eh, Tuomas Pirinen wanted to make Mordheim again so he did. Heaven forbid a man have hobbies. I like it well enough, and if you know what you're doing on Etsy it's not that expensive to get into comparatively speaking.

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>>97902746
I read this as "this is what they start with" like as a minimum and you can buy them miscellaneous gear but maybe not

>>97904489
It's why I offer a bit of grace.
These are the actual working guys behind the games, not the bean counters that make the numbers go.
If they were an actual corp, I'd have more expected them to do the thing you said, and sold out for a fat check once they realized there was broader interest.
>>97906526
I, personally, would allow them to get new kit, but not exchange their standard kit for upgrades.
Keep what you got, add to it.

>>97821145
Well, the rulebook the backers got was already outdated by the time they were delivered, so I'd say so lmao.

>>97906526
So unless a model says that they can buy from a table they cannot, so mercenaries can't buy anything new but they do get level ups and the perks those come with when they promote.
Your table can easily house rule it to be anything off their faction armory table or whatever though and that's fluffy and fun too.

>>97905529
It's been funny honestly, at adepticon I did get a couple questions about it as the "c guy." I explained alot of the misconceptions and just had people play games and people really liked it when they weren't getting told it's the devil

>>97904255
That's kind of similar to what I have my mammon legion fluffed as (though more deep inflators in europe), the forgotten third and fourth sons of nobility and merchants upset at their lack of fortune from their father's and accordingly submit to greed itself to fill void

What are you all fluffing your guys with? Give me backstory if you have it

>>97904489
Honestly it kind of is, as shitty as it sounds. Part of why I was skeptical of this at first was because it was initially just a couple pie in the sky artists making a cool game/art project.