Long time MtG player (17 years?) and with what's happening to the game rn, i don't really have much interest in any of the new sets. Sorcery looks like it could maybe scratch that itch. The art is fantastic and reminds me of legacy MtG art. Anybody here play?I watched a few overview vids, but I'm curious how the actual gameplay goes. For someone who plays mostly EDH, are there any similarities? Is it usually a 2 player match?How long are the matches usually?Is it as much of a money pit as MtG?Convinced a few of my MtG friends to give it a shot based off of the art alone. Just need an idea of what I'm up against in terms of learning curve.
>>97820622It's fun, the art is generally great. Matches seem to go like 20+ minutes depending on what you're doing. There's some pretty expensive cards, but with the rarity card limits for deckbuilding a lot of the time you only need one or two copies of a card.
>>97820757wow 20 minutes is nothing.I'm so used to battlecruiser magic where the norm is like a grindy two-hour game.how big is a standard deck?I was thinking about just finding like some bulk on fb marketplace (surprisingly, it's out there) and cobbling something together. Unless they make precons, haven't looked into it really.
>>97820622>Long time MtG player>Alara block - present>someone who plays mostly EDHI don't get it--is this just another Sorcery shill? You are the pig that is keeping MTG slop
>>97820757This is your example of "generally great" art? This looks like a poorly drawn illustration from an old Christian picture book.
>>97820802genuinely odd comment>>97820809can't all be winners
What are the control decks in this game?
>>97820809nta but the 3 cards posted ITT look pretty good to me. seems up be just a matter of taste.
>>97820809Quinton Hoover was an OG mtg artist, this is just his style.
>>97820792There are precons for Gothic and Beta, get the Gothic ones. Necromancer is a top tier Avatar. Decks are 60 spells, 30 lands and 10 collection(sideboard). The Ian Miller cards are by far my favorite art.
>>97820929so so sick. fits right alongside Kentaro Miura's art (rip)
>>97820622I hope it does well, doubt it will even deny MtG though because plenty of better games have come after MtG but they died because of a pretty limited player base. Brand recognition is one helluva thing to beat.
>>97820622I do hate modern MtG like you wouldn't believe but aren't something like 80% of Sorcery decks water because that's the element with coolest sites and rules?
A friend mentioned it to me a few weeks ago and I've had a waning interest in MTG for a long while now so I'm going to get into it even if it turns out to be a dead game. I bought the Gothic precons and I bought some playsets of the ordinaries (commons) of each set off of Ebay which should be showing up in about a week, probably in the next week or two I'm going to buy a booster box to crack.I've probably played around 10 games with the precons with my friend and the game seems fun even if we are still misplaying and don't have a good head for strategy yet, not to mention it feels like the precons are kinda lopsided in powerlevel. I don't know if I like the fact the deckbuilding meta has a lot of universal autoincludes (toolbox no matter what for sidedeck casting wincons, cores/mixes/other powerful artifacts if you can afford them) and the entire meta seemed completely dominated by Druid decks before he got nerfed via errata. The fact that a lot of cards I've seen have misinterpretable wording that can lead to confusion about how stuff is executed also isn't great, but Curiosa.com is a solid resource that clears most things up pretty quickly even if it is irritating that I have to interrupt games several times in order to figure stuff out.Even with those reservations the game is doing too much cool stuff for me to ignore it. Between the art and the really interesting design space they use with some cards like pic related I can see myself spending a lot of time and money on this, even though the only people I'm probably going to be playing with are 2-3 friends since the closest sanctioned event is over an hour away from where I live.
>>97821727If you don't mind a dead game, Mage Wars Arena is pretty dope and you can usually get the complete thing for a decent price.
>>97821717The water decks are pretty dominant right now, but there's still a lot of competitive builds, also people are still trying to figure out what works in general. Cards like Atlantean Fate can be pretty brutal.
Sorcery is based just for printing these two cards alone.
>>97820622play it. It's good, very intuitive. just get a precon set and jam it with a friend. it's good, polar bears and pudge butcher are still my guys.
>>97820809Considering every piece in this game is hand made (so not digital slop), that is great art.
They need to give us more Frazetta art
>>97820622MTG player of 22 years that only plays premodern now here. Played in an 8 man Sorcery draft the other day and it's hands down the most fun I've had with a card game in years. Can't recommend it enough, man. If you have an LGS nearby with anyone that plays, join a draft and give it a shot. The grid adds a lot of depth in strategy.
>>97833316Can concur, it's fun to play.
>>97820929Is that Ian Miller art?I'm sold.I rate him over Blanche.
>>97833338Yea he painted a lot of cards in this recent set. the playmat for The Void is great, it's huge. Miller has been one of my favorite fantasy artists since Mirage came out, I really want to get an original piece from him before he's gone.
>>97833517I wonder where my copy of the Tolkien Legendarium he illustrated went from time to time.The Barrow Wights page has my favourite drawing.Here's a little version of it, fuck Pinterest trying to hold the full size one hostage.
ordered some singles, going to try and make a void deck, need a few more voidwalk minions
>>97835460that's fuckin' awesome
>>97837743Yeah, made me a Wight enthusiast for life.I have a profound love of things that dwell in barrows and inhabit the corpses of dead kings.
>>97826838Going to buy some cases now. Seriously.
>>97820622Atleast in our city sorcery has been steadily gaining new players, with most being ex-mtg players or completely new to tcg hobby. It's either been the art or gameplay drawing people in. Ppl seem to enjoy the boardgame feel of the game with site placement and cards really affecting the realm unlike in some other games. Someone in the latest sealed event pulled this badboy and gotta say that flavour texts are so damn good in this game,
>>97835460this and a bunch of other Ian images appeared in the Tolkien bestiary too. I also always loved the wights picture. awesome that they got him involved for this, his shit is so unique.
>what if we make looking like 90s generic fantasy art our selling point
>>97840990>art is so bad nowadays generic fantasy art from the 90s is a legitimate selling point
>>97820809I'm already sold on the art, no need for you to reason why it's so great
>>97840990That's infinitely better than>what if we make fags, retards, trannies and unrelated children's IP's our selling point
Counts as potion of haste
>>97840990The 90s was almost thirty years ago, old enough for many potential players to have no direct exposure to it.
>>97826838these cards don't line up. Is there a site that goes in the middle?
>>97847850There's a curio that combines the two
>>97840990Agree, they definitely should do crossovers with other brands, like star trek, teenage mutant ninja turtles, lotr, spiderman and race swap characters using AI art, that is what the market wants!
>>97840990The art is incredible, what a weird thing to try and attack. This makes magic look like a low effort Bandai asset flip.
>>97848586Probably just a wotc AI prompt engineer feeling personally slighted.
>>97847982damn, would have been based if there was a Jerusalem site at the center
Sorcery owns and I will shill this shit til I die. Easily the most fun I've had playing a TCG. So much to think about, so many different ways to do things. Deckbuilding is great with different avatars too. Loving elementalist rn.
>>97856522Same, man. Sold off the remainder of my collection and going to go hard into this game. Who's your favorite avatar? I've been having lots of fun with the Witch.
>>97820809That one looks great.
some recent tournament decks, water necro is still pretty good, 1st place was fire/water but the rest of the decks are pretty variedhttps://eternaldurdles.com/post/69d52a111386e173c108d171
>>97840990>how to tell everyone youre underage without actually saying it
>>97861253How is the school of airbending?
Doing chaos sealed tonight. Send me your luck, anon. Aino pls
>>97864766Air has a couple of the most played spells with Grapple Shot and Whirling Blades.
>>97820809>poorly drawnThe only thing you can validly do here is dislike the art style. The technical quality is objectively high, and if you can't see that, you're just not competent to judge the quality of anything.
are there any websited like untap.in where you can play sorcery with randoms?
>>97867796realms.cardsand there is an official mod on tabletop sim run by Eric's Curiosahttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2884846136
>>97840990>it's not tranime so it's bad
>>97867809Not even Tranime.He's probably thinking of the oversaturated computer-coloured ultra-crisp industry standard slop that became the norm since the 90's in general.
I have played magic for like 20+ years and I just got the pre-cons and played with a friend today. It was super fun. I have a question for people more informed. I looked at the recent big tournament decks and only water decks are playing this games version of a mox, why is that? I would have thought every deck would just run them. I don't see them on their ban list.
>>97872282I think there's a few reasons. They aren't a free spell, with a mox you can cut lands out of the deck while getting free ramp. The cores are powerful but you are cutting a spell to put them in the deck and they are only a good top deck in the early game since land drops are less random in Sorcery. There are some cards that are basically an auto include like Ring of Morrigan and the Omphalos from Gothic are very strong and seeing a lot of play. Key to the City got a good errata recently and will probably see a lot more play as well.
>>97838563Good for you and your game
>>97838563this call back turn into an entire mechanic is fantastic.
>>97820622Introduced some new players yesterday, we all had a great time. I bought everything, beta, gothic and the playmat.Is there any advice on how to expand the precon decks?It's also so hard to restrain myself from buying every booster box as well...
>>97875554>Is there any advice on how to expand the precon decks?Fill out the playsets of cards that are missing, take out some of the shitty ordinaries, stuff like Undesirables is trash, I just put in Wyverns in their place.
nobody expects the page 10 thread bump
Just watched a vid about it and now I want it but there's 0 retailers in my shithole and international shipping is going to bankrupt me. Spatial mechanic reminds me a little bit of an old slav game called Berserk my college buddy showed me once (it also had a playmat and played sorta like HoMM video game battles), but it was in slav runes so I don't remember much.
I only started getting in about a month ago, was Gothic the set of last year or this year? If it was last year, when should I expect the next set?
>>97887201Gothic launched in December of last year, we are still a ways away from the next one. With sorcery expect 1 big set per year.
>>97840990>what if we make looking like 90s generic fantasy art our selling point
>you play as a faceless avatar (well okay, some of them drawn with faces but the point stands), some type of being with godlike power you can self-insert as, and you don't have to deal with some marvel-tier writer's cringy self-insert and their family or love drama metaplots>your planeswalker dude actually walks the planes and makes/shapes/destroys them as the game unfolds>cool stories like that time when Yog-Sothoth was defeated by a frog unfold in the process of the game instead of card descriptions>releases that give cards time to breathe instead of "let's make some money fast and invest in the AI bubble before this pile of shit sinks, here we come with 30 new sets!"It's just what OG Magic wanted to be and is 100% worth a try. I wouldn't play it competitively but it's really fun with friends. Shame it's still a fucking TCG gacha filth. I'd rather buy all the cards of a set Dominions-style.
>>97826838Wait hold on, Magic the Gathering made a whole fucking blog about how these cards were UNACCEPTABLE because of their names and had to ban them. This game had to know about that when they printed these. ...is this game......based?
>>97889161>...is this game...>...based?Yea, pretty sure they were specifically made as a response to Wizards faggotry
>>97889161You don't say?
>>97889161Best part is they are both very powerful, Jihad is in every good fire deck.
Got a couple of decks made out, just need to find a LGS that runs events.
just got the Gothic precons, going to play with my brothers this weekend. Will try it with 2 players first but does the standard grid work for 4 players or should I get some cardboard and painters tape and bump each side up by 1?
>>97890360>but does the standard grid work for 4 playersno it will need to be bigger, other people have made some 4 player mats, just go with how they sized it
>>97831722Could you imagine an entire Hyborian Age set...
>>97890395Would be very based
>>97889278How do you counter this nigga?
It does get a bit annoying when there are three or more units on the same site
>>97847982Apparently there's a continuation piece as well
>>97890740Bouncing it is a great option. You can also force or limit its movement to keep it away. Or of course just have something bigger.
>>97890740
Played a precon game of this with my gf over the tabletop sim yesterday. Props to the dude in charge who made a free official workshop mod. We had to look up a shitton of rules as we went but overall it was really enjoyable. Death door is such a cool mechanic.
>>97890740Google says this.
>>97894186You just spent 3 mana and a minion to make an opponent sacrifice 1 mana token. Although hang on, that dude's deck has a Deathspeaker instead of a Necromancer. Still a very situational spell (but can potentially win you a game).>>97889278What's the plan here? Suiciding Grandmaster Wizards for draws?
>>97838563>>97820792>>97820895This game has some really cool art.
>just played Onslaught and ran Sir Tom Thumb into your face 3 times nothing personnel
>>97894212Burn, essentially. Desecrate + top end minion = 11-13 damage in a single turn.All the Common burn spells + Major Explosion.Summoning Sphere dropping an Infernal Legion up the opponent's ass.Wizard spam for card draw + Summoning Sphere + Djinn up their Avatar's ass to mag dump your hand for 3 damage per card in a single turn.
I really wish this game was gatekept from normalfags more but it feels like its impending popularity is inevitable at some point.
Sorcery makes me want to build cool, flavourful decks, balanced against each other, that I just keep around to play with people like a boardgame.
>>97897458Seems like something that might have had its moment already, but idk its not gone yet and theyve done a set a year so maybe they'll make it to normiedom
>>97897458MtG already exists to filter the retards out, Anon. Until that game crashes and burns, you don't have a lot to worry about other than gay eceleb Marxists content farming the game for ad revenue (which they do for everything by default anyways).
>>97897496Hopefully not. I like the 1 set per year model, it's slow and comfy. Especially comparing it to modern Magic (did they release 20 or 30 sets last year or something? I lost count at some point after Marvelslop release #342).>>97897501Unfortunately gay marxists have a lot of subscribers who will parrot their retarded views thus applying pressure to the publishers. It is known.
>>97897506The game literally not only has Crusade and Jihad cards but printed them *after* MTG already banned them for being muh offensive, gay marxists won't touch it other than to call it chudpilled and fascist.
>>97898314This is how I live day to day unmolested.I basically Chudmax to the degree that makes me unapproachable to gay marxists, and sundry leftoid retards.They can only yell at me over the internet.Game looks fun, if I see it going cheap somewhere I'mma buy in and try to convert my friend who's shit at MTG online, and my other friend who's shit at Yugioh online.
>>97840990It's definitely an effective selling point seeing as the art is one of the first things that people notice and praise about it, me included. I probably would not have checked out this game if it wasn't for it featuring many classic Magic artists that I love.
>>97898608Cool story behind the horse as well.
>>97826838As a "Woke" person, I never really understood the issue with either of these cards in Magic, especially Jihad
>>97900809>As a "Woke" person, I never really understood the issue with either of these cards in Magic, especially JihadIts because they're retard woke, not "you shouldn't throw rocks at black people while calling them nigger" woke
Check this out lads, I got an eriks curiosa signed by erik
>>97901155if you look at the room behind him, it's full of a bunch of original card art paintings and hanging frames filled with cards
>>97901155wew lad that's gona be a pricey piece if this game sticks around for a while
>>97901188Yeah, he hates signing things, I wanted to get an alpha foil p-stone or a rainbow foil signed too but no dice, I don't think there'll be many more, if any to go around for collectors.
>>97875554Nice one
>>97820622I've followed this since it was first announced and maintain that it needs an online platform to play like Arena or Masterduel.Starting a grassroots scene is hard but getting people into the game digitally is a great gateway.
>>97908763There's an official mod on Tabletop Sim and a few other fan made projects to play online
>>97820622>new sets. Yeah. Two options for you; premodern or a different game. >EDHNot a real game and certainly not MTG. https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1
>>97915280love the Ian Miller cards so much. I know its probably months off but I can't wait to see what the next set is. Hoping for something conanesque but I think I'd like anything they do.
>>97915562Same, I'm glad I got a Relentless before they went totally unfindeable. I hear the next set might be delayed because they're working with the printers on the clumping issues and trying to fix supply problems.
>biggest city in my country>scenes for at least half a dozen different card games>zero sorcery tournaments>just occasionally two dudes playing casually at the LGSShame. Will pick up One Piece or something instead.
>>97920027>Zero sorcery tournaments>Will pick up One Piece insteadYeah man, those famous One Piece Collectable Card tournaments and all those active players who love and enjoy its intense and engaging gameplay. My only question would be how do you shuffle a deck of slabbed anime pictures you paid $10,000 each for?
>>97920878>those famous One Piece Collectable Card tournamentsYou'd think that but someone showed me that my city is getting multiple tournaments this summer where everyone who top 8s gets like $50,000+ in prizes. OPTCG looks like it somehow has the highest prize support out of all card games. will just buy the cheapest version of the meta cards if I play idgaf about the pirate cartoon. sorry Sorcery but as a prodigal card genius I only play card games if there is money on the line.
>>97901155Do it, anon. Tear it to pieces on camera at a tournament
Also, I'm in EU and availability here is fucking horrible. I had to order my boxes from Netherlands. I've heard of some people having to order from US just to circumvent bad logistics in their shithole.
I lost all interest when they said they would artificially choke card supply to "protect collector investment". Fuck that shit. I want to play card games, not play market speculator.
>>97927035Card game """investors""" are one of the most retarded people on the planet. I will continue playing old unsleeved 1999 MtG cards I bought when I was a kid at my kitchen table (though I played white/blue vs red/green starters recently against a friends and it was pretty boring, ngl; the most interesting card in the entire game was fucking sleight of hand)
>>97927028This, I would fucking love to play this game and I could get at least 10 people into it, but it's basically impossible to get in the EU
