>discovered a commander I didn't know about
>see there's only 1 copy available where I usually buy
>buy it for double its actual value
>start building online
>realize it's going to be a massive jank pile and won't be what I want
>give up before the card even arrives
Why am I like this

>>TQ
This but tribal

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>>97822218
Happened to me with this guy.
Maybe one day...

>>97822246
Probably need to be in azorius for birbs

>>97822240
Yeah my bad honestly, didn't even realize the brain rot had set in. Too used to minding my Ps and Qs around leftoids I guess

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>97822327
You are approaching fourty (40) and still ritualposting on 4chan

>>97822344
I'm just replying to tell you I appreciate this burn.

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>decide to make a deck for that edhrec contest on a whim
>think I'm pretty clever for the keyword I chose to build around
>submit
>the very next submission picked the same keyword
So it turns out I'm a midwit

>>97822450
What was the keyword, tardanon?

>>97822450
Consider the number of keywords in the game versus the number of people submitting entries. Utter foolishness to think you'd ever be the only one to make a given choice.

I would like to build a deck that is fun for the opponents to play against, but isn't just group hug. What decks do you like?

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Sleeper card incoming. Expect to see this in every aura-based voltron deck moving forward

>>97822459
Maybe not the only one but it was funny that the very next submission picked the same
>>97822458
cumulative upkeep

>>97822560
Literally unironically goad decks like Nelly Borca. It hyper accelerates the game and it makes sure no ones a pussy. You get to do your thing while everything's on fire.

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>>97822582
Three Dog tech

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Threat assessing players hate this one trick

>playing squall
>100% chance I’m going to loss if this guy doesnt attack the player with kappa cannoneer copies and brudiclad
>brudiclad player makes excellent argument that I will win the game on my turn, and that I am responsible for killing the current players board with mogg infestation (its true)
>”yeah, he took away my chance to win, so maybe I wont kill you”
>”yeah man he’s the biggest threat”
>all 3 of my opponents have now decided to work together to take me down, until
>”look how mad they are getting! You should swing and squall will just kill them both because its funny”
>two of the other players crash out, NOOOOOOOO you are just kingmaking
>gd its actually funny watching them crash out
>guy kills them, I kill him
>pull an exalted sunborn, soulstone, malakir rebirth from random packs because I won

>>97822603
Mardu squall? Always wanted to make the guy but the goad components are jacked up in price right now

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>run Chang's fakes
>age/wear cards for older stuff
>double sleeve everything
>play
>if someone salty bitch cries about losing, tell them to deal with it
>in the off chance of someone claiming fakes, tell them they can't touch my stuff unless they want to buy it from me
It's as shrimple as that.

>>97822654
I dont run much goad other than baeloth and nelly. just token making and shit like revenge of ravens, norn, circle of fire, maha, blazing archon, settle the wreckage, fumiko.

>>97822246
I know FFXIV got way too many cards but an Endsinger still would've been cool

>>97822677
>proxytards
>pubstompers
Spot the difference (there isn't any)

>>97822689
So you're telling me money is the only limitation on getting a powerful deck? Good to know.

>>97822698
You can make a poweful bracket 4 for cheap, albeit very one dimensional
The real point is that a casual would play with what they have not what they wish to have and cant afford, but ofc a proxytard is incapable of understanding this no surprise you deceive people and dont even have the decency of playing in cedh

>>97822717
I've played Thoracle cancer, but that's hardly fun. I don't even play "broken" stuff or reserve list stuff. My issue is I'm not going to pay hundreds of dollars for a mana base of fetches, shocks, brass, mana confluence, etc for every deck I own. Chang can get me a mana base for $20 at most.

>>97822733
>see i own one real copy of (card), this makes it ok to proxy every other copy
Why even bother with such a rule? Just proxy everything even if you dont own a single real card
You don't have to pretend to be so virtuous when you've really just created an arbitrary cutoff point to cope and justify your proxytardism
Feel free to be a F2Pfag btw, just know you'll never be taken seriously

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>little wolves of wallstreet pissing and shitting over the creatures that cast reserved list spells
Where were they when they did it the first time?

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>>97822689
>Pubstomping is okay if they spent a bunch of monies

>>97822760
To be fair, the strong ones come prepared so you can get value out of them from the get go.

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>>97822776
>Pubstomping is okay if I pretend to have spent a bunch of monies

>>97822792
This is the stance you took lil bro

>>97822758
>just know you'll never be taken seriously
nta, but I have never seen someone who takes you seriously, all while everyone and their grandma uses proxies. your delusions of importance are probably the reason why you have no friends.

>>97822807
>yes this is your position
>i admit to it
Good to hear

>>97822813
>while everyone and their grandma uses proxies
So nobody is a paypiggy then? Hahahahahahahahhahaha

>>97822758
>F2Pfag
Proxies still cost monies tho

>>97822837
may paypiggy friend uses a chainmail bikini anime proxy for his commander's plate and another one for sheoldred.

>>97822839
No they dont unless you're claiming sharpied basics cost you money, in which case you truly are a poorfag lmao
>no seriously my counterfeits cost me money
The absolute state lol

>>97822779
Is it not an ability? Is it actually a spell attached to the creature where you can just cast it immediately?

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>>97822831
>I'm okay with getting ass fucked as long as they spent a hundred dollars on the lube

>>97822857
that post didn't make any sense. can you try again so that normal people can follow your train of thought?

>>97822857
Even a basic and a sharpie will cost monies tho it's not free

>>97822683
Yeah true, i also wish we got a stronger Zenos card.
I'd love to build him but his existing card is pretty much a meme sadly.

>>97822854
So the vast majority of people do pay for wotc cardboard after all, in which case they are just making custom art of a card they own, which is far different from proxying a card you dont actually own and worse you dont even wish to own down the line

>>97822256
>It has... LE TYPE mentioned?
>I.. I must do TRIBAL!
edhrec-brained retard

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>>97822866
>people should be okay with me ass fucking them as long as they know i'm just pretending to have spent a hundred dollars on the lube

>>97822872
And you are a waste of taxpayer money see how this works? Lmao

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>>97822881
Check out this drake tribal enabler.

>>97822758
>>see i own one real copy of (card), this makes it ok to proxy every other copy
>Why even bother with such a rule
>Feel free to be a F2Pfag btw
Squirrelfag is retarded. More news at 11.

>>97822877
>So the vast majority of people do pay for wotc cardboard after all
correct. why does this come as a surprise to you? here is another kicker: everyone who uses proxies also buys real product.
doesn't change the fact that nobody in the casual formats cares about proxies, not even the paypiggies. you are an absolute exception to the rule - a bitter paypiggy, getting mad that nobody wants to play with it anymore.

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>>97822886
Just say your ass is for sale to the highest bidder bro it's okay women do it all the time

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>>97822895
But I pay my taxes tho

Why would ANYONE make an argument that paying money to WOTC is a good thing? What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>97822901
>see nobody cared about proxies
You would be correct because you're clearly working under the assumption that
>i'm honest about them!
But since you dont backread to the OP i was replying to and are just reacting in a kneejerk way this is yet more proof that proxytards are in fact just retarded

>>97822912
I pay money to wotc to make it a UB paradise
Are you actually this naive to think I pay just for the sake of cardboard and not to send a message? Kekw fool

>>97822912
it's literally one single guy who frequents these generals for hours on end. I'm not kidding, I can see him whining about proxies before I go to work, come back in the afternoon and he will still argue with everyone.

>>97822909
I cannot possibly imagine wasting even half of that on this game.

>>97822912
Sunk cost, little wolf of wallstreet, retarded pay pig, actual shill. Pick your poison.

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>>97822897
Bant cat tribal coming through

>>97822923
He's been here for years having these same arguments.

>>97822923
>every guy who opposes me is just one guy fr fr
>>97822924
Correct that's how you know that guy is a larping idiot proxying his wealth in an anime forum

>>97822916
nobody cares about stealth proxies in casual formats either. literally nobody gives a shit besides you, anon. and you calling anyone retarded is a wet fart of a joke, seeing that you argue here for hours on end about proxies for days in a row.
it's fucking sad at this point and you know it.

>>97822924
That's only about a third of my collection cataloged. In my defense I've been playing for like 25ish years and a significant portion of my collection is friends and family dropping the game over the years and giving me their cards

>>97822829
I honestly thought you were going to make him Strefan or something. I can dig this one.

>>97822931
>>every guy who opposes me js just one guy fr fr
How often have you posted the pic in >>97822792 in the past month?

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>>97822758
NTA, but I also limit myself to proxy only cards I own, but are too expensive to buy over and over again.
If someone has a problem with my proxies I can prove I own them at best, and at worst they can sit there steaming as I take 40 minutes to put every real card into my deck.
It lets me have fun by having multiple deck, not dent my wallet severely, while also just not putting broken cards into my deck skewing my decks powerfully into pubstomping territory.
Sorry self-regulation with proxies breaks your brain.

>>97822944
Not him but he posted it a total of 54 times

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>>97822931
>You're poor if you proxy just buy the real card board!!
>Nooooo you're LYING YOU DONT SPEND MONIES ON THIS GAME!!
utterly mindbroken holyshit

>>97822932
>nobody cares about stealth proxies in casual formats either
And yet people do care about being pubstomped, which proxying makes it so much easier to do, it's almost like the issue is that proxytards have no self restraint and pubstomp anyway with perfect manabases while the pod settles with taplands
>i'm not one of them
Yeah sure bud i havent heard that before

>>97822949
In the past month? That's almost twice a day.
You know what? I can believe that...

>>97822946
>self-regulation with proxies exist just like how people can self-regulate their 'my deck is a 7' piles
Lol

Friendly reminder that antiproxyfag keeps track of how many kills his commanders gets.
He doesn't care about fairness or pubstomping, he just wants to be the only pubstomper at the table.

>>97822944
>>97822949
>>97822954
I never said that's not me, but good to know that you think every single anon who argues with you is in fact me lol

>>97822954
Nah not in the past month but just in total, the past month it was 11 times

>>97822963
That's a little over twice a week. Still obnoxious and obvious.

>>97822952
You keep saying that but have you actually played against someone who actually proxied full pubstomp? Or is this just the anti proxy boogieman? Have you tried playing this game with people that aren't total fags?

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>>97822758
I make custom proxies of cards I own but need to have updated oracle text on. Your argument is invalid.

>>97822952
>And yet people do care about being pubstomped
no, they do not. people who get stomped either build dogshit decks or play their decks in the wrong bracket.
if anything, I would argue that pubstomping should be more frequent to push retards out of the hobby, but sadly this doesn't work. and you know why? because nobody, absolutely nobody, except for you, gives a shit.

>>97822942
Good to know this one doesn't seem out of place. Most vampires have flying. I considered just saying fuck it and make him one, but then I remembered he only got infected after SC2 so it's fine.

>>97822996
>Most vampires have flying.
The fuck they do.
Almost all of the best vampires don't fly.

>>97822977
>people stealth proxy (apparently not an issue according to retarded anons)
>proxying makes pubstomping so much easier
>but rest assured pubstompers use only real cards
Kekw my sides

>>97822995
>if anything, I would argue that pubstomping should be more frequent to push retards out of the hobby
Unironically I agree with you so that the only edh is cedh and timmies become extinct, how do you like them apples haha

>>97823006
stealth proxies are not an issue, correct.
pubstomping using proxies is not a thing.
pubstompters are usually paypiggies who want to "test" their $1000 deck against precons.

>>97822952
>>97823006
Do you talk like an unmedicated immature faggot irl too?

>>97823004
yeah but like he said this is his SC2 version so who cares plus the other ones usually make vampire or bat tokens which to my knowledge wouldn't fit Raphael either

>>97823010
like I said, it's impossible to push people out of the hobby via pubstomping, so all concerns about proxies are completely irrelevant.

Do you guys have precons you don't change whatsoever just to go against people who just started?

>>97823013
>proxytards are saint and will never deceive or angleshoot people even though stealthproxying itself is a deception not even showing the decency of saying you play with proxies

>>97823022
No they can have a taste of my Light-Paws

>>97823013
>stealth proxies are not an issue, correct.
The fact that people buy, use, and shill for Chinese counterfeits invalidates this.
This entire debate started specifically because of this happening.
Once again, proxy uses are proving they are deceitful scumfags.

>>97823023
>even though stealthproxying itself is a deception
Subtle mask slip that squirrelfag won't shut up about proxies because he was scammed out of $400 by buying counterfeit duals.

>>97823023
correct. pubstomping using proxies is not a thing and has never impacted anyone who just wants to enjoy the game.

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>>97822912
Try to wrap your head around what you are saying here, it's asinine. Feel free to not buy the product, but the whole 'I'll print chinese counterfeits because I don't want to pay' is just petty and entitled. It's both creatively bankrupt because you aren't creating a proxy or something novel, you are just paying an illegal service to undercut costs of the actual creator by making near 1:1 counterfeits, to have as many of the most powerful cards as you can get to create optimized copy pasted edhrec decklists to win in a non-competitive kitchen table format.

1. these counterfeits rip people off when they are traded for real $
2. you ruin game nights because you are pubstomping and don't even know playlines most of the time
3. if I hated magic enough to not buy the product, I'd stop buying and just sell my collection and stop playing.
4. your faggoty attitude is annoying

>>97823031
>he thinks i'm some retard from years past
Glad to see you cant refute my point, GGs proxytard enjoy your F2P pubstomping

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>in his eternal crusade against proxying he has failed to convince a single person to stop proxying

>>97823030
the fact that people buy, use and shill for chinese proxies just proves that stealth proxies are not an issue for anyone.

I'm gonna buy a proxy of Vivi just because of this thread

>>97823035
Pubstomping is not a thing either the game only knows winning or losing so yeah breach thoracle right in your face buddy boy

>>97823038
You say that, yet you knew who I was talking about.
GG squirrelfag.

>>97823022
No. The amount of times you will go to the LGS, sit down, and the guy across from you is literally shuffling up a precon freshly out of the seal in his first go of magic is about as unlikely as winning the lottery.
I have barely modified precons to play against people playing precons or low powered decks. If I did find myself in that very unlikely situation I would just play one of those and pull my punches.

>>97823036
The actual creator can get my monies again when they relearn how to make foils that don't curl

>>97823036
>I'll print chinese counterfeits because I don't want to pay
that actually okay and nobody has a problem with this.
>creatively bankrupt
buying product is the least creative thing you can do.
>your faggoty attitude is annoying
oh, the irony

>>97823023
But enough about sanctioned event players!

>>97823040
>he thinks i'm trying to stop people from being F2P
Hahaha and why would I do that? Proxying is the sincerest form of flattering wotc and proxytards serve as free advertising even if they do lack self restraint

>>97823042
>I don't know what stealth means.
How many people need to openly disagree with you in a single thread do you need before you realize, that you can't say no one cares because people clearly do?

>>97823036
>creatively bankrupt
What a retarded argument to make when you're defending the game having a paywall behind some of its gamepieces.

Why do we care so much about proxying? Most of my playgroup proxy their cards to test their decks, then they might buy the cards later.
If their decks are higher bracket than mine? No worries, they are now an objectively scarier threat than me. They will die long before me, and my pile of jank comes first or second.
In the end, we all have fun.

>>97823050
I'm glad that you came to accept that your argument of "proxy=pubstomping" has been dismantled. Not many people have the courage to admit mistakes like this.

>>97823067
But I never go to game stores whomst am I advertising to? And on another note, who is left to advertise to? Everyone that's going to play this game is already playing it.

>>97823004
Shit, you are right. Should've said: Most vampires that weren't filtered from my search criteria had flying.

>>97823051
>he thinks i cant use archives
Yet more proof proxytards are in fact retarded, cest la vie!

I mean I don't give a shit what anti-proxyfag says, I'm not paying over a dollar for any fucking cardboard square.

>>97823071
His wife cheated on him because he's a financially-irresponsible manchild. He's middle aged and still tries to act like a teenager. He will never learn because he's an autistic retard that wasn't bullied enough.

>>97823071
>How many people need to openly disagree with you in a single thread
I would say, more than one, because so far, it's just you, and let's be real, nobody takes what you specifically say seriously, because all your arguments boil down to crying about being pubstomped.

>>97823078
>My small group are okay with proxies
Ever consider people play this game outside of your personal play group? There are billions of people on this planet who are not you.

>>97823081
Good to see you admit that if proxying isnt a problem then pubstomping isnt an issue either so yeah thoracle turn 2 next game pls

>>97822683
wait for the FF spinoff set in 2-3 years, they'll still probably make another 60 XIV cards in the set

>>97822860
As long as the creature is prepared you can cast it asap. Some of the better prepare creatures are like that.

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>>97823077
>>97823061
>>97823054
>rationalizing printing chinesium knock offs
just pathetic

>>97823089
you don't have to, just don't pay the chinese for rip offs. print shit like this at fedex for a fraction of the price.

>>97823097
I have yet to meet those strange people that are afraid of getting pubstomped by proxies

>>97823097
>Ever consider people
no

>>97823096
>Everyone arguing with you is one person.
Classic stuff mate.

>>97823086
So you went back through years of archives, saw a loser cuck that got doxxed lose arguments for weeks on end, and thought "hmm, I want to type exactly like this guy and repost his arguments?"
I don't believe you.

>>97823108
Doubtful, and you probably have and have been blown out by them. Which is why counterfeits are getting discussed. Try and keep up.

>>97823098
correct, pubstomping isn't an issue. go play your t2 win deck as much as you like in your cEDH bracket and have fun anon!

>>97823082
>i dont want to admit to people about my proxies in public and in turn advertise wotc so i self contain in my basement
Finally an honest proxytard in this entire thread

>>97823110
anon, you are one person, the voices in your head don't count

>>97823103
>>rationalizing printing chinesium knock offs
>Posts a custom alter people who own Chains would probably rather run as a proxy over the actual card

>>97823120
Brackets and power levels arent a thing anon, there is only winning and losing, you WILL let my cedh deck enter your timmy pod buddy boy hahaha

>>97823135
>Brackets and power levels arent a thing anon
but they are a thing, anon. what now?

>>97823103
>print shit like this at fedex for a fraction of the price.
But then everyone will know my cards aren't real

>>97823125
Yeah, we know it's you, faggot.
You're the dumbest retard in this general.

>>97823138
>entering brackets you dont belong to is le bad
Then pubstomping exists after all and so too is the blight of being a dishonest proxytard GG

>>97823139
oh no! anyways

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>>97823108
>afraid

more like annoyed. here's last night for example:

>oh hurr I just made this deck it's like a 2
>krrik
>turn 3 aetherflux and instantly wins

I don't know if you just lack the ability to read the room, but when the 3 people stare at you while you are comboing off turn 3 or 4 after saying it's a 2 or 3 - no one likes you. Just find other people that want to play at that level and you'll have more fun.

>>97823132
yes, that's the point, are you people fucking STUPID? Can you READ the post you are quoting? If you are going to proxy, just proxy it and have some fun. There's no reason to PAY some asshole in china to print out a counterfeit and then pay again to ship it through customs. It's a waste of fucking money and people rip off others with these counterfeits.

This is why I respect people who use big tit animu proxies.
Distasteful yes, but they are honest about their cards not being real.

>>97823115
>said loser says 1+1 = 2
>i say the same thing
>we are clearly the same person
Roru rumao retard

>>97823142
yeah, paypiggies are prone to enter brackets they don't belong to, sadly. but this isn't pubstomping, this is outright ignoring the community rules for pairing powerlevels of decks.
proxyfags on the other hand respect brackets and don't try to thoracle on t2 in bracket 2 like you out of spite.

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>>97822982
Wotc won't print a version with the actual rules? Proxy time.