Anyone got any better than this D&D now vs then comparison pics, especially for art style?Seeing the new MTG set look so incredibly gay and full of mediocre modern digital fantasy art is quite sad.
>>97831907The gayholder always gives me a big smile. Cringekino.
OP then and now.
>>97831907>dude in the left wears a ring Ngl that’s gayer than whatever’s in the right
>>97831907Oh boy, another repost of the same art that was literally made just for the occasion and does not exist in the actual products.
>>97831964at least it's not ai
>>97831964No, the actual product just has combat wheelchairs and dwarven cookies
>>97831964Gay beholder who just wants friends is literally in the book
>>97831907>>97831915>>97832503Pic on the right is a trap. Sure, it looks like Fulsom Street in San Francisco with less leathermen. But it's also exactly the kind of thing a beholder would do and the reason is to attract other beholders to the degenerate spectacle so the gayholder can slay them. Beholders hate most life forms but hate other beholders most, because they aren't perfect like that beholder. I'm surprised that mirrors aren't more effective on them. Here, just stare at yourself while we get the flaming oil ready.
>>97832558Not all beholders hate everything other than themselves. Some can get along with others like that one leading a thieves guild. Spectator Beholders like that one you meet in BG2 is pretty friendly and will talk to people.
>>97832503>The beholder casts ray of gayness>Make a will save of 18 or your characters become gay
>>97831907Sure.
This is stupid.Both of these images are false. The image on the right is not new-D&D, it’s what pearl clutchers and grognards think new D&D is like. And I’ve read the old stories of pre-millennium adventures. Those were just as prone to colossal shit-shows as today.Nothing’s changed, except which rules are getting argued over.
>>97831964You call it many things, but never a lie.
>>97832600>that one leading a thieves guildYou mean the one that is literally insane?
>>97832723>not new-D&D,Its official artwork
>>97832723Cope
>>97832678>>that bottom imageAside from the "herp derp we must be diverse as possible" bs, what may I ask is wrong with the bottom image? The cookies? What, dwarves aren't allowed to like cookies now? That seems a bit silly to me, honestly.
We need to movie D&D headquarters from Seattle
>>97833119>Aside from the shit, what's wrong with your salad?Serious answer: It's soulless. Nothing about the image inspires creativity or imagination. It's like they asked ChatGPT to generate an image. I can look at this image for twenty minutes, memorizing every little detail, and the moment I look away it'll disappear like dust. Even a passing thought gives me more interest in what Dwarves could be than that image.And you know what? I get why they had to do that, because DnD is so utterly divorced from any sort of cultural context that every race has to be boiled down to an Ur-Example of what they are. The Elves in the PHB are shown sitting around drinking wine and casting spells. That's all they could realistically show them doing. I guess that's the horror of the bottom picture and why it turns people off, because it lacks any humanity to it.
>>97831907Veteran of the Planar Wars here. I didn't slay the Lich of Eddenburg, lay waste to the Red Dragon Tamunduphax and slaughter hundreds of Tanar'ri for that future..
>>97833143>>soullessSo in other words, it's lacking in charm then, in your opinion? Fair enough, at least that's more reasonable than a reflexive "new thing bad" mentality.
>>97833119The problem is the forced message of reversed gender roles. They're trying way too hard to push the point of "seeeee??? the man should be in the kitchen bringing cookies to the two strong women who are doing the real work and the gay man who is helping them."I don't want to play dnd thinking about someone's modern political issues that they are writing about on twitter. I want to look at in-game artwork and be immersed.
>>97833168Fair enough, but I will say that there are enough male cooks/chefs around that being a cook/chef isn't really a feminine profession exactly, and yes I know that female cooks and chefs also exist which means it's not an inherently masculine profession either.I don't understand why you think the male dwarf at the forge is gay though, honestly.
>>97833182The first impression I get from the image is not that the dwarf bringing the cookies is some kind of professional chef. The first thing I get is "wife bringing cookies to the hardworking men but gender swapped".Obviously, there is nothing inherently wrong with such a scenario. It's the way it's shoved into my face at a place I don't want it to be at that bothers me.>I don't understand why you think the male dwarf at the forge is gayI was being half serious but he does kind of give me that vibe. I don't know what it is. His hairstyle? His tan? His choice of cosmetic accessories? His body language?If I had to bet I'd say he's at least open to experimentation
Where would this cleric land in context of old and new D&D art in themes?
>>97833206Wait, I take it back. If I had to bet I'd say he's the top and the guy bringing the cookies is the bottom
>>97833207You know, people hate the art Puckee commissions because it gets spammed on here a lot, but I think I would prefer it to a lot of "official" DnD art currently.
>>97833206>>97833214Fair enough, to be honest with you I don't like most modern DnD art either. I just can't entirely put my finger on why the way you and a lot of other people can. It just rubs me the wrong way, it feels like it's lacking a proper sense of adventure.
>>97833206>I was being half serious but he does kind of give me that vibe. I don't know what it is. His hairstyle? His tan? His choice of cosmetic accessories? His body language?Dwarves inherently lean gay in depiction, as does almost anything "overtly masculine", hence so much of gay porn being obsessed with muscular men and fatsos.
>>97833151>reflexive "new thing bad" mentality.People have bren saying what the specific problems are, it just gets ignored
We have this same thread every day. Can you sing some other tunes for once?
>>97833231>it's lacking a proper sense of adventureIt's because the focus of the artists is something else. What I think is happening is, the artwork is made to depict certain imagery and elicit feelings that a specific audience will approve rather than invoking a sense of wonder and adventure. Namely, "inclusiveness", "a safe space" and "acceptance". Soft, muted lighting, neutral colors and non-threatening figures.As opposed to older images which feature extreme contrast, sharp edges, "dangerous colors" (such as blood red or blinding yellow) and generally shocking imagery.
>>97833207I actually like this pic and will probably use it for something. Am I braindead?
>>97833275Yes
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>>97833119It depicts dwarves doing something other than fat drunks or manly weapon smiths so it is wrong.
>>97831907Is it really hard not to be a bigot?
>>97833119>>97833320ngl I feel like if dwarves were to like any activity besides brewing and smithing it would be baking. They already have the ovens for it.
>>97832998>Its official artworkFor the umpteenth time, the right image is a Pride special artwork made by Ultra-Pro. It's not WotC artwork. It was probably approved by WotC, but it's not in any offical D&D product.As for the left image from the Days of Yore, you have two white dudes screaming in terror, a Girl Boss who is the only that is actually doing anything, and a pretty boy with an ear-ring & curls string a pose. If you put half as much effort into your campaigns as you do being offended by nothing, you'd be having a good time instead of being the miserable pricks you are.
>>97832992By human standards you could rightfully call any beholder insane
The 2 male dwarves' arm tattoos are of the other one's beard. It's super gay.
>>97833207>puckee spamming his commissions againhttps://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1j5ot3r/artcomm_sister_althea_human_cleric_by_dennis/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/nJCQeA9MiQuu2AvMvA_6Gw/>33 times since March 2025
>>97833355>>ngl I feel like if dwarves were to like any activity besides brewing and smithing it would be baking. They already have the ovens for it.There's some sort of edgy joke about Jews that could be made here, but I'm not witty enough to phrase it properly.
>>97833235Not by me, I at least understand where you guys are coming from with your disdain for this stuff.
>>97833228I feel bad for the artists themselves, because they do have some technical skill even if they're a bit bland. But now they're associated with annoyance.
>>97833119>>97833355Dwarven cookies seem like they'd be a good snack for laborers. They'd be made more calorie dense, sweet and salty, and be easy to eat for quick energy.
>>97833119>Aside from the "herp derp we must be diverse as possible" bs, what may I ask is wrong with the bottom image? The cookies? I feel like you and I are complete polar opposites.I'm not bothered by the diversity but the ugly gay fucking manbun, big goofy smiles, and "quirky wholesomeness I GOT COOKIES!" shit annoys me. Like that Legends and Lattes book, I can't imagine having a fantasy world and deciding to focus on putting a Starbucks in it. It just feels so fucking gay and allergic to adventure and perils
>>97833389That Battletech fanzine with the trans flag, that orc fanart with the cartoony smile and camera meant to mimic Hearthstone's art style. There's another one I forgot but /tg/ really loves to get mad at fanart and say it's official
>>97833168>The problem is the forced message of reversed gender roles. There's a guy front and center doing physical labor. >and the gay man who is helping them."How is he any more or any less gay than guy with the manbun, rings in his beard, and mittens(gay, touching the stove is based) and dumb grin. Might as well say the two guys on the table are gay.
>>97833231A lot of people here have political reasons but you hit the head on the nail. It just doesn't look or fun and usually has bland art styles and scenery. Even some edgy art suffers from the latter too.
>>97833750>There's a guy front and center doing physical labor.He's not looking at the work the woman is doing. He's the easily distracted assistant checking out the queer little bread boi.
>>97833797>He's not looking at the work the woman is doingWell yeah, he smelled the gay guy's cookies and their lunch break is probably starting.And you just know manbun yelled "DINNER'S READY!" as he walked in.
>>97833733Among other posts in this thread I'm>>97833231So I actually agree with you that this quirky wholesomeness and similar such shit is unappealing to me. That stuff has it's place and time, but it seems far too front and center in modern DnD artwork.
>>97831964This is part of the oroducts, though.In before>uh uh you didn't pay for it tho!!!That makes it worse, you fucking faggot.
>>97833419Insanity has a definitionalsoHe is insane by beholder standards
>>97833832I didn't even notice the tattoos, honestly. I'm guessing they each have a tatoo of the other one's beard? That does seem kinda gay now that you mention it.
>>97833389Alright how about the mexican orc natives?Or the gayholder on the official safety checklist for session 0?
Just remember, you fucking faggots were warned about all of this. As soon as 5e back in 2014 put a whole paragraph of SJW bullshit into their Gender section in the PHB, the beginning of the infection was clearly present. You are the idiot who had a tick bite on his ass with a red ring around it and ignored it thinking it would just go away. You are the idiot who thought that it didn't matter because you could just bury your head deeper in the same and it would all go away. It didn't go away, did it? You knew it would take effort to fight back, so you convinced yourself that it was pointless. So you let these faggots take over the hobby, let SJW bullshit like Session Zero and X Cards get inserted into the game, let the reddit chinstroker blogger faggots astroturf it into standard practice,and you didn't do anything to stop it. You could have called it out as the disingenuous bullshit it was. You could have targeted normalfags getting into D&D and tried to keep them out. But I bet you didn't. You went right along with it. As soon as some 5/10 bitch with tattoos wanted to learn how to play the game from Stranger Things (which she watched while Chad was rawfucking her) you folded like a good little simp and taught her how to play, then she went home and got rawdogged by Chad again. Fucking imbecile. Then you let trannies in, because uhhh they're so heckin cool and quirky and draw le cool art for our game. Nice job idiot because now you have an endless supply of drawings of your warrior hero in bisexual lighting and all it cost you was the entirety of your hobbys culture and creative identity. Fantastic trade! You are like a boomer, a short-sighted hedonistic retard who let D&D culture turn into complete slop because you wanted to get your dick wet. And the saddest part is, you probably didn't. Go fuck yourself. You knew all of this was coming. You were warned. And you did nothing. In fact you actively spit on the people warning you. You deserve all of this.
>>97833886mucho texto
>>97833888Its really not.400 words is standard middle school writing.
>>97833888>mucho textoNot an argument you ADHD-addled zoomer fuckwit.
>>97833899Lack of paragraphs isn't though. Text walls are obnoxious.
>>97833315No, THIS is
>SJW bullshit like Session Zerooh you're that guy
Reminder that pic related is what current D&D art actually looks like. Everything else is year old ragebait to get a dopaine spike out of your brain burned on culture war stuff.
>>97833886What else were we supposed to do?Our ability to control a companies actions ends where shareholder interests begin. A lot of people just want to throw a few dice and don't even really interact with any of the SJW/culture war bullshit. I mean fucking hell I don't even own any of the books. I just write copy down the bits I need from a friend or google.
>>97833207tits too small
>>97833991Stuff like this makes me realize I'm just not into digital art
>>97833119As you said the forced diversity (demihumans having the same mandatory racial phenotypes as humans) and the focus on SoL (plus queerness and lighthearted tones expressed through saturation/lighting other than composition), which the game itself doesn't actually reinforce in any dimension (hence a tonal whiplash).
>>97834033She's under armor. But yeah she looks like she's more of a "face girl" than a "body girl" aka butterface.
>>97833119>Aside from this>they aren't allowed that?Assuming you're in good faith, I'll put it this way. Yes, the forced diversity by itself is already bad and corporate, and no, the cookies by themselves don't make this reproachable, but there is a collection of little things in the image that, separate, are harmless, and together are fake and gay.It's the forced diversity + the cookies + the performative male feminist haircuts + the basedcuck facial expressions + the cat + the guy on the left being such a faggot he'd wear sandals to a forge + him being the whitest male in there and taking the cookies to the brave women and racial minorities in a subliminarly subservient position + the excessive gay bear porn muscle glimmer + the hammers looking like MCU mjolnir + the art just looking bad.None of those things, in a vacuum, would completely ruin an image, just like having either AIDS or the flu won't kill you.The top pic is just male power fantasy, a guy taunting whoever's facing him, 2 weapons in hand for double ass kicking. It fits better a game that dedicates so many pages to combat.
>>97831907Friendly reminder that the only people who still are seething or gave a fuck about the image are never-games trying to stir up shit in some idiotic front of ACW (American Culture War) that nobody actually playing gives a flying fuck.Let me riddle you this:If this is "now" and so common, why are you unable to get a new image, but keep reposting the same 4 images (this, the two player parties and the one made to promote combat wheelchair, which already fall into obscurity even as a bait material)?
>>97834183The fact this happened even once is already enough to complain forever, or at least until a scapegoat suffers to appease the mad god.
>>97834188but you do realize that spamming the same ragebait even 2+ years later will make people see you as annoying spergs, yes? By repeating the same shit over and over and over again, you are alienating people to your cause by pissing them off
