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Let Chaos idols take this thread!Happy Easter :D
the defiler kit looks pretty neat, I will probably pick one uplots of extra parts to use in conversions/kitbashes too which is nice
>>97834467it doesn't look like you can make a brass scorpion out of this one
>Bro fist!
ROBO ARIGATOUMR ROBOTO
DARK AGNELSLooking at this datasheet, the guy with the big banner doesn't seme to have any special effects? Is that guy effectively a dark angels ancient? I've been looking at this and the victrix guys and wondering if basically the same logic applies- that we can just have the guy with the banner be the ancient for the dark angels the same way the victrix banner guy is an ultramarines ancient.
And this guy looks like a Dark Angels Judiciar.
>>97834455>TQ
>>97834455>TQA willingness to be a little cringe and be okay with everyone else knowing that's what it is
>>97834490They shoulda had ranged energy weapons instead of swords.
>>97834455>TQ/yourdudes/ are inherently cringe slop.
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
Why are Ultramarines so gay?
>>97832851No, though I am tasking metal rn. lol>>97832863Nah, but since you've mentioned the king Wolf, I'm adding Loken.
>The book ends with Eldrad Ulthuan having a vision about what Perturabo is constructing and deciding that the Aeldari must stop him at all costs.Oh so it's all hinging on a farseer breaking a ten-thousand-year losing streak and NOT fucking up catastrophically. Can't wait to see how that pans out.
>>97834515>meme loreGo back
>>97834515>Eldar doing anythingSpoiler: They fail
>>97834515>greatest eldar seer to ever live only perceives the plan while it's already underwayAmazing. He has the godlike ability to divine into the present.
>>97834468I'm sure you could make some monstrosity that fits the brass scorpion profile
>>97834515>All the AeldariHow's he going to get Vect on his side?Or the Exodites?
>>97834455>What makes one's homebrew avoid being slop?Just the right amount of cringe.
>>97834535>How's he going to get Vect on his side?He's not>Or the Exodites?He's not
>>97834515>the eye of terror craftworld is written as having a reason to participate in the eye of terror warzonewow
played 4th edition yesterday for the first time. god damn it was fun.
Do you gents think titans will survive into the new edition? The lack of a full reset gives me hope for my useless big boy.
>>97834565Where are your L shaped ruins anon
>>97834455>TQBy Realising that 40k lore is retarded and embracing that by making actually creative forces. O and by actually buying Models and making them.
>>97834571Bro no one cares.
>>97834571do you have a scorpian superheavy tank tho? i miss soulbursting that thing
>>97834571if it's resin, it's going away
>>97834565Based
>>97834565Welcome to the team anon, how does it feel to experience the golden age of warhammer?
>>97834565Yeah 4th is great if you're Eldar or Tau.
>>97834576Afraid not no. I am mostly a sucker for Wraith constructs for rule of cool. Taking the titan to tourneys are great if you don't care about winning as it gives new players a real confidence boost when they see something that big and they are able to win against it. It DID have a moment of glory when people spammed Vetrix guard with 4W, that was a perfect fit for its weapons. It was kind of fun having the most useless thing in the game being a solid cheese counter for a hot minute.
>>97834565Based. I'm palying a game of 5th next weekend, but I should convince my friend to give 3rd and 4th a try as well.
>It looks like second edition! Aren't you excited?>By the way we're removing devastators from the game. Get excited.
>>97834589It feels great! I loved being able to cast different spells with my Farseer, and I loved how useful and powerful my Rangers felt. The terrain served a purpose beyond just obstructing the line of sight.
>>97834497But 30k does that and we can't copy good ideas, that would be admitting the specialist studio does something better than us. We need to double down in the opposite direction instead.
>>97834597Retvrn.
>>97834572No need, all area terrain has the same rules.
>>97834565based game haverI haven't played regular in a while, I might check out 11th when it drops and see if its worth a shot, if not I should push my mates to play 3rd-4th
>crucible>world eaters>cultist leader>this guy
>>97834576i havent played since ynnari were supreme its been a hot minute. enjoy me some gladius though (4x game 40k universe). I need to try a jet bike army some day. the saim hann logo is based on the alfa romeo
>>97834614thats a strong womyn who need no man thoughbeit
>>97834597>it looks like 2nd editionThe cover & starter box is trying to look like 2nd, but outside of that it's very much 10.5.t. captain obvious
>>97834626It's just making me very mad how they keep trying to nostalgiabait which would be great if they weren't taking away stuff we've had since RT at the same time.
>>97834614Needs a BBL
>>97834633who said they are removing devestators?
>>97834571hopefully anything bigger than a knight is out (and knights should be a 1 of at best)no fliers either
>>97834633It's maddening & sad. It's not even proper nostalgiabait, it's not even surface level, it's flying 50 feet above ground>remember 2nd edition exists?>remember the cover art having bangles and a dude with one (1) black flame motif?>remember that model we raped nearly 10 years ago? We're unraping it somewhat. Also we're raping another unit.I'll just finish my homeroolz edition and port units with unit creation charts and forget new editions.
>>97834636Them making a gravis heavy bolter squad, the already existing melta squad snd thr inevitable lascannon squad? The other weapons are already covered by hellblasters and desolators. And you can bet tacticals are going away too. At best we'll keep the rhinos if they finally allow intercessors to ride them.
>this much emotional attachment to plastic toys why are SMfags like this
Since we are getting a new gravis unit with heavy bolters, I wonder if they'll make more gravis stuff.I'm still hoping for a gravis veteran kit
>>97834655>why are SMfags like thisFew weeks ago we had guardfags having a meltdown because GW seemingly wasn't going to make another trenchcoat and gasmask wearing guard army.
>>97834655they bought an identity, not a product
>>97834655Sorry for caring about the things we like I guess?
>>97834655>no emotional attachment to plastic toys he assembled, painted and played with
>>97834513>YvraineShe would be more powerful than Malcador. Fix it.
>>97834655>>97834661>>97834663Their passion and excitement is why they get new models every 3 months while you DEfags get a pity Archon model and character within an entire edition
>>97834622Strong indeed. Check out those deltoids. Puny guardsmen cannot compete.
>>97834513>>97834669why is this loser so high up? where are her feats? besides sucking primarch cock?
>>97834673>unprompted DE spergout
My whole army uses 30k models to keep the RT era aesthetic si I guess I'll have to use tartaros terminators to represent gravis and toss my 20 devastators to the trash. Yay.
>>97834673>passion and excitementmore like misplaced self worth and empty consumerism
>>97834571I'm so mad over the discontinuation of the Forge World Eldar stuff. I missed my chance of buying some of the best looking Eldar tanks.
>>97834689>picrel in plasticImagine
so are they keeping legends rules or not
>>97834696Since 10th ed codices are still usable in 11th I'd expect legends to still be useable
>>97834666>getting emotionally invested into corporate plastic toysnigga just paint and play with them, they're not a good replacement for your missing father
>>97834596SOVL
>>97834702I will pin you down and wreck your hole
>>97834689>I missed my chance of buying some of the best looking Eldar tanksThis but with the eldar, IG and tau stuff
my dad got me into the hobby
>>97834716what army does your dad play?
>>97834716my dad looked at my collection fully built modelled and painted and the only thing he said was>waste of money
>>97834702You think mindlessly consuming product is better?
>>97834728What a shitty person your dad is
i resent those who refer to my chapter as glup shitto.
>>97834728Was it your dad's money? If not then tell him to stfu.
>>97834746It was not lol
FACT: guard orders should require a leadership testFACT: guard orders should be 6" range unless both the officer's unit, and the unit being ordered have vox casters, then it's unlimited rangeFACT
>>97834626>The cover & starter box is trying to look like 2ndKinda, not really.It's more of an homage/reference to 2nd edition.If GW tried to properly mimic 2nd edution all of the colors would be much more saturated.
>>97834755i have no idea what any of this means, but GW doesnt give a shit about you rule fags, nobody even plays the game.
>>97834728Your dad’s a cuck, quit blogging about him.
>>97834682>besides sucking primarch cock?Why do you think she is so powerful? Primarch semen is extremely powerful and boosts psychic powers.
lol
>>97834739What does steel fists have to do with anything?
>>97834727nothing, he just knew I was into fantasy/nerd stuff so he bought me a white dwarf mag at the newsagentthen he'd paint random ral partha models and stuff while I was a kid>>97834728sorry bro, I bet they look good
>>97834755There are three facts
A while ago, actually about 6 months, some guy bragged he had built an army of traitor guard by repeatedly buying and selling the Traitor Guard kill team and selling the enforcer, ogryn to people who were willing to pay apparently 30 bucks for the enforcer and 30 for the ogryn but not a whole 65 for the kill team. I want some of those Titus models and realized I can do the same thing (buy Titus and the masters of macragge) and sell off the ones I don't want. Ezpz.
>>97834467Kinda cool that they've got monopose pegs for little timmy but the ability to cut them off and pose for everyone else
>>97834739if your chapter has to get 3rd party stls to make lore-accurate cyborgs as depicted in the art because GW cares so little they won't even do that for you, maybe it is glup shitto.
>>97834770I can see people buying the SM characters individually. Good luck selling the human nobodies
>>97834657does anybody have the leaked pictures of those guys?
>>97834776Seconding this. Apparently there are pictures, but until I see them I'll assume it's wishful thinking
>>97834657It's high time to give Gravis and Phobos both ranged and melee veterans.
>>97834782>phobos ranged and melee veteranseliminators & reivers
>>97834776it's teh rie
>>97834513>no Apex Twins in Alpha plus>Jurgen that low
>>97834689You could try to buy recast, its far cheaper
>>97834513Where would the Cacodominus be on this list
>>97834787that's battleline
>>97834819Only if you let it be
>>97834776Some one at warhammer world left them out in a cabnet, they are just gravis marines with heavybolters with shields on them
>>97834657>gravis with HBoltersBut we already have heavy intercessors...
How's your collage preparations going on, anons?
>>97834821yeah but I still want to see them
>>97834825Still in the planning stage. Diorama with a marines malevolent guy on a pile of dead wolves. Not sure about the basing. I'm thinking fenris because their blood would stand out nicely against the snow and extra humiliation from getting owned om home turf.
>>97834685Can't you use the devastators as hellblasters and desolators and such?
>>97834728Did you look at his collection of vinyls or whatever boomers collect?
>>97834825I think it's pretty sad how one lolcow got you all by the balls.>omg he's so annoying>shower him with attentionI genuinely don't understand what the fuck is going through your heads.I will say it again: you fucks are the other side of the very same coin and are keeping him here. I will not discuss this further, get defensive however you wish, it will fall on deaf ears.
>>97834825I know I had a pot of Blood for the Blood God but I can't fucking find it
>>97834728>Look at something creative you child spent many hours of passion on>Tell him it's shitBruh that makes me sad
>>97834825Going pretty good, I might actually end up having to two models for it.
>>97834838Tyranid Bioform or Slaaneshi Daemon. The answer will shock and disturb.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97834825I havent done the collage in a few months, whats the april one?
>>97834837I guess you're just doing a crucible character.
>>97834837>SW=lolcow guySeparate the art from the artist, man. It's SW getting rekt, not decalfags guys getting rekt
>>97834825I already posted it a few times, so I won’t post all of it again, but I do got a question for a part of it, how do I go about painting this head to look like its been drained of blood and beginning to decompose? would a grey white with nuln oil slapped on do, or is there a better way?
>new Defiler is $145 for a model the size of an armiger (which are $100 for 2)>immediately sold outit will never get better will it
>>97834823I think I just realized every single unit on the Marine side of the starter box is from Space Marine 2. Besides the speeder.
>>97834851Crucible character and/or SW getting absolutely destroyed
>>97834851Double theme, so you can either do one or both>Space wolves getting destroyed>Crucible character
>>97834833Desolators maybe but I can't do thay with the lascannons, melta and heavy bolters. And I already have 10 dudes with plasmaguns to use as hellblasters, plasma cannons are too big for that.
>>97834825all the major bits are dry fitted.gathering some focus before pinning, because i know i'll regret not doing it
>>97834682The more ridiculous feats(feets) of hers are in the Gathering Storm books; such as saving Crastworld Biel-Tan from a daemonic incursion (after nearly destroying it herself), and effortlessly reversing the Rubric of Ahriman.
>>97834837never in the history of this website did ignoring lolcows/shitposters help, might as well have some fun with it
>>97834838Unfortunately i have only khorne red and spiritstone red, i should try to combine it for severed head>>97834851Space wolves humilation and /yourdudes/ kitbash for crucible of champions
Are there any interesting examples of tzeentch-focussed chaos space marine chapters that are NOT related to the thousand sons?I.e. one that do suffer from mutation and just deal instead of making retarded dust-related bargains
>>97834861the double theme is a bit of a letdown, especially when any entry can be made "SW getting rekked" just with a bit of base decoration
>>97834869get Scourged
>>97834837don’t care, its funny. you literally said it yourself that he’s a lolcow, and we’re milking him for laughs. this isn’t even that much, you should see the shit done to chris chan for a proper “showering of attention”
>>97834872
>>97834860>>97834861>>97834867thanks lads, I think I have a few random kits sitting around I can dust off and make a character out of
>>97834837I you think Decalfag is bad then you don't rmember the gloy days when Iron Tard was here. He was Great and his shitty painted Iron warriors were a cherry on top of that spergy pie.
>>97834869the scourged are actually pretty cool, I good tzeentch oriented gimmick that isn't magic/birds
>>97834728I got into gaming about two years after my Dad passed away so no idea what his opinion would be. Considering he was a Sci-fi nut who bought plane tickets to attend big Sci-fi conventions I'm sure he would at worse case be indifferent. Only tg thing he did was he bought a copy of D&D from the book store in 1980. The satanic panic was going on at the time and he wanted to see what all this hubbub was about.
>>97834869you also got the Oracles of Change
>>97834565>tfw haven't played 4th since 2007When you grogs play do you only use units that were available in that edition? Sounds like a silly question but I dont remember that wraith variant being in the codex at the time, although im probably wrong
>>97834869and there was a Night Lords Warband in an issue of White Dwarf called The Rapturous Flayhost that was led by a Daemon Prince whose soul was ripped in half by Tzeentch and Slaanesh and the warband would be devoted to either god depending on which half was in ascendance.
>>97834872ain’t nothing wrong with the entry being simple the last one was literally “big stick” and people who posted dudes carrying heavy bolters, and las guns were included.
>>97834772you call it glup shitto, i call it an opportunity for kitbashing.
>>97834825Ive got a plan but im having trouble figuring out how to execute it. So a marine pilot comes with the kit, but i want him on the ground face down. Problem is, hes in that huddled pilot position which would look awkward, would it be easy to convert it to look like a dead body?
>>97834772>needing daddy GW to tell you how to build your modelsNgmi
>>97834905Do we have this picture without the shitty "Warhammer Community"?
>>97834908Use a hobby saw and green stuff to reposition him
>>97834512They're Romans
>>97834739why do you concern yourself with fags spouting tumblr memes?
>>97834864>I am so glad the demons came around and nearly destroyed this world so I can blame nearly destroying it on them and divert attention away from me while also playing myself up as the hero>I am a genius!
>>97834924try a reverse google image search or you could just crop it out.
>>97834924Gimme like five minutes and I should be able to get it off of there.
>>97834857I know it gouging but I'm probably going to fall for it, I like the kit and can see a use for the extra parts
>>97834924>>97834965Here ya go.
>>97834855wut terrain is diz
>>97834860>>97834861Cringe shit no one is participating in.
>>97834455Postan'.Muh Chaos dudes will be clad in demonic armor cursed from the eye of terror influence.That's it.
>>97834923>HAVING NO SUPPORT IS JUST HOBBYING LMAOEven the exodites have more support simply because you can buy all the dinos from lizardmen and put elfdar on them.
>>97834989Thanks anon!
>>97834859That's simply wrong.
>>97834605Genuinely, do you need 'more'?
>>97834857160mm base is fucked on any ordinary table though. Being able to go through terrain doesn't matter if you cannot fit on the board. Sure, there will be some places you can go, but large portions of most boards will be inaccessible. It's also not that resilient with T11 and a 3+/5++. Anti-tank will melt it.
>Found a beat up box in a FLGS bargain bin>Its an old triumh of saint katherine with the old black and green 40k logo>ten poonds because the box is damaged>take a gamble, worst case its bits fodder>the box is damaged but everything in there is fine as new>happy with my steal>but now i gotta do my biggest sub assembly paint job everThis shit is very intimidating.
>>97834992
>>97835004I need the unit to not stop existing.
Man, Xpress Seraph Red smells so good and when it's wet on the model it looks like candy. It's so hard to resist just drinking the bottle of paint.
>>97834872Simple concept = More entries
>>97834992Except meGo ahead and do your faggy middle school-tier roleplaying, I know you want to
Thousand Sons have a few Daemon Engines now, do they have a Detachment based on running a Daemon Engine heavy list?
>>97834995If that's your train of thought then so do all those chapters once they have their 30k ranges to get stuff from, since you need an official GW model to appease you cuck nature.
>>97835020yeah but it's half-baked, like everything else in their codex. got indirectly nerfed by the change to termie sorc rule as well
>>97834596Based secessionistsWe have ~14 people in our Badab campaign here, next game day is in June
>>97835020Thousand sons helmet looks like he came home to find dog shit or vomit on the carpet.
>>97834927Thats what ill have to do, shouldn't be too hard
>>97835025Sounds like a good candidate for a 2-point Detachment in the new system.
I think detachments are pointless and encourage people to just spam the same unit over and over, and this new system isn't going to do enough to change that.
>>97835034it could probably get away with being 1 point
I want a flayer hq unit and rules for a flayer detachment thats just "make some green stuff skin and drape it over existing kits" like how you made the old destroyer lord.
Why does GW refuse to make rules for 1,500 point games? People love 1,500 point games. They're what 2,000 point games used to be several years ago.
>>97835023Faggots like you are unironically the reason this general sucks so bad. It's not hobbying if the range just straight up isn't being supported.
>>97835037idkif i can combine changehost with pretty much any other detachment I consider that an enormous boost to my enjoyment of the game
>>97835051Because it would sell less slop like knights and tanks.
Why is the Leman Russ tank named after a loser Primarch?
>>97835061Because guard is the loser faction
>>97834990its from 2022 kill team starter set, the one with the kommandos and krieg
>>97835061Because the guard are the losers faction. Simple as lad.
>>978350511500 point games use the same rules as 2k games. Strike Force is "up to 2000 points" just like Incursion is "up to 1000 points".
>>97834855vallejo pale flesh + thinned reikland flesh-shade
>>97835054it's not my fault that you're scared of converting.If you're creativity is stifled becuase you require their to be a 1:1 replica of what ever lore unit you want to run that fine, but saying that other armies are lesser because their motif require some converting is retarded, that type of thinking is gay and the reason why we're seeing less and less custom chapters in this hobby.
I know people who don't kitbash and they are all cowards. If your units dont include at least one piece per 3 models from a different kit you are basic and your army will never be ballin'
>>97834992>no one is participating ini actually might have 2 models to submit this collage since i'm so motivated but such a fun theme.
>>97834825Still waiting for 3rd party wolf heads to show up
>>97835020GW could have easily made things okay for trannysons by giving them that big HH robot too and world burners probably literally anything from butcher surgeon to butcher terminators to variants of berzerkers but chose not to.
>>97835061Because the tank first appeared in the Armies of the Imperium supplement in 1991 and officially released in 40k around 1994. It wasn't until the cash grab of the BL books that they shitted up Russ.
>>97835061Leman russ tank is gool
>>97835076May your Chapter have new lore soon, brother.
>previous sisters of battle combat patrol: cannonesse, unit of sisters, unit of repentia, unit of flagellants, unit of jetpack sisters, penitent engine and a fucking whole ass rhino for like 75 poonds>Modern sob combat patrol: canonesse, unit of sisters, unit of flagellants, unit of 5 sacresants, 110 brexit bux, also go fuck yourself.>Proceeds to sell former combat patrol as "limited reprint of their 8th/9th launch boxFor what purpose?
They really didn't make enough huh?Sold out before the fomo boxes even
>>97835102Eh, if they get new lore that's neat, but the fluff that came with the 8th supplement and the Feirros stuff was honestly enough to have some good story beats to build off.I don't care about my chapters yearly tax returns, having some players and a couple of plot points is all I need to build around and make a cool force that fits in the universe.
>>97835026Damn, I'm jelly anon. I have to convince my friends to start one here as well.
>>97835079Your a quick painter ill give you that, swear you only built that thing yesterday
>>97835108It hasnt gone on sale yet has it?
>>97835037I don't like detachments/subfactions in general, but this change at least in theory could fix one of the main issues detachments/subfactions cause. It's stupid when unit A is only good in detachment A and shit everywhere else while unit B is only good in detachment B etc. So in theory with this if you want to use unit A and unit B together you just pick the mini detachment that buffs unit A and the mini detachment that buffs unit B together. Of course this is inferior to just not having detachments and making units always useful by default but you have to take what you can get I guess.
Just finished my first model
This is part of my emperor's chosen army homebrew chapter
>>97835145
>>97835145Cute. Make sure to save it to see how much you've improved later
>>97835105The sister launch box was shit since it had no options for the battle sisters/seraphim and not full units for the other shit. Even if you bought two you still wouldn't have full units for the repentia or arcos. Basically everything in the box was useless unless you had tons of leftover bits from other kits. It was a fucking terrible starter. The new one might be less plastic per dollar but it's objectively a better starter since you actually get full proper units.
Just finished my first 40k miniature, I would appreciate to hear your thoughts!
>>97834857I can afford this hobby still because at the end of the day it's just a small luxury but sometimes the illusion stops working for a minute and it really sinks in the fact that this company is charging 50 dollars for a single 2inch tall plastic model. Like jesus.
Ive still got my first model saved, granted its not really my first, first in about 20 years though
>>97834992Last month's collage received 30+ entries, what will be your excuse when this one gets around that same amount?
>>97835174I think your Imperial Guardsman fell into a tub of HEV
>>97835177AI
tempted to get that iron warriors patrol, wish it came with a vehicle or something though
>>97835177A lot of them, unironically, were AI images made to bulk out the Collage in an effort to hide how it is dying
>>97835020so this also comes with iron warriors and word bearers variants as well right? any others?
>>97835172>he still buys directly from gwngmi
>>97835203Point to which ones are AI for me, o wise one.
>>97835166your first mini and you decided to do nmm? looks good not gonna lie>>97835172he doesn't seem too difficult to kitbash with something like thunder hammer, cathapract terminator and techpriest bits. Or just print him
>>97835172I mean plastic is much more enjoyable to work with than resin and making plastic molds for print runs for nerdy little space men and designing cool ones isn't cheap. I don't think its really that jewish, people who are like lmao just make a resin print shop in your basement and shave years off your life because you sure as hell ain't wearing PPE the whole time
>>97835172It is a really cool model and I wish I could run it as a loyalist.
>>978352093 generic spiky chaos ones as well i think
>>97835231honestly doesnt look that hard to de-chaos the model
>new objectivesThey're really doing their best to make 11th the most shrimplified edition ever, right?
>>97835235Issue is more rules-wise. There's no terminator techmarine. I think you could make a loyalist warsmith with the crucible but I'd like proper rules support.
>>97835174I miss this kind of green on orks. They lost the sauce somewhere around 2020 methinks
>>97835203this dude gonna go into psychosis come the end up april.
>>97835237Hope so. 3rd is still the simplest edition and also the best one.
>>97835190>>97835203Anyone with "delusional reasoning" can mark it off on their bingo sheets.Any folks with "there's actually a hidden super duper bomb" keep an ear out because I think it's coming soon.
>>97835174grimy little fuck
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tgz401zu/revealed-inside-the-incredible-new-defiler-kit/Do they really think this shit is incredible? One of the worst kits they've released in years.
>>97834956>this worldShip secondary-kun
>>97834878I know there is a version of myself in another timeline that picked Scourged as their warband.
>>97835241dont iron hands have termie techmarine epic?
>>97835249Base aside, how so?
>>97835249>One of the worst kits they've released in yearsWhy?
>>97835258it's hideous..
>>97835172Trust me brother i have been in this hobby for nigh on 15+ years now, and i can tell you you are not alone in this feeling, GW is pricing themselves outta a market. 40k was always a luxruy hobby, but GW is currently high off thier own supplySee back in the 2000s and 2010s, GWs prices were justifiable because at the time, they really were the best model makers. They had the most detail, the most durbility, the easiest to build, they really were worth the money, now? Model making tech has come a LONG way, and the fact of hte matter is, GW currently is no longer the best bang for your buck. Other companies are doing greater detail for cheaper, other companies are making much larger models for cheaper. GW has largly remained the same quality, if anything i would actually say they have regressed as their new models are a fucking pain in the ass to build and sub assemble now. Recasters and 3d printing have taken off because GW is reaching a point were their price and quality is just not fucking worth it anymore.Covid bux stopped years ago, and the economy is going to put luxury hobbies like this on the chopping block first, and printing and recasting is gonna be the old thing keeping it going.
>>97835249>its one of the worst because I don't like ityour opinion is worthless thougheverly
>>97835034How so? >>97835020There is a vehicle detachment that gives a bunch of rerolls yes
>>97835261In what way? Use your words.
>>97835261Personally I think people that complain about tomato's to be childish.
>>97835256He's more like a master of signals or siegebreaker than a warsmith. Can't repair anything.
>>97835108Ever since 8th ed GW has been trying to run SUPER lean for 2 reasons1) to create a false sense of FOMO to drive sells 2) they dont wanna have a repeat of their 2008-2016 years where they had a LOT of back stock they could not shift and just had plastic sitting in warehouses doing fuck all.
>>97835172>>97835262>>97835108Blame (((scalpers)))
>>97835262>Other companies are doing greater detail for cheaper, other companies are making much larger models for cheaperWho? Anyone making models the quality of GW is changing the same.
>>97835274Its partly scalpers partly GW getting high off their own supply.
>>97835246Simple ≠ shrimple
>>97835274I wouldn't blame scalpers but rather the retards who buy shit off of them.
>>97835275no, check the coming starcraft table top. take a look at the new gundum miniture game coming out. Shit just take a look at the gundam model in general, they are able to color print articulating pices on spru. Gw still makes good quality, im not denying that, im saying their price does not justify that quality when you factor in things like amount of models and plastic you get, combined with ease of assembly.
Funny that the new defiler is actually getting people to start a chaos army, I guess they really made a good model this time around.
you brought a 300+ point model? your win doesn't count
>>97835287>gundams Barely any details on those
>>97835262Literally every time GW makes a new model or a new boxset it almost immediately sells out. Why would they not raise prices?
>>97835242I would've continued with this style but it would've taken me forever to paint my boyz so I resorted to contrast for the skin. Im a very slow painter unfortunately
>>97835306Because they might push 3D printing over the threshold of being the standard
>>97835295>tfw dont have oneThe closest thing i have is a Gorkanaut and I never use the fuckin thing
>>97835295Yes it does and fuck you The baneblade is cool and you're a stupid freak for not bringing enough anti tank
>>97835295I'll being my Malcador Defender to a 1000pt narrative game and you'll like it
>>97835262problem is they can price out 80% of their long time customer base as long as they have a few whales who will buy any box no matter how shittily made and how expensive it may be. Warhammer just isn’t meant for you anymore.
Decal man, if you're here can you post a picture of your space wolves tanks please
>>97835319you brought a meteor to a game of rock paper scissors, congrats on your win, you toddler>>97835324I had to look that up, I've never heard of that even once
>>97835306>Why would they not raise prices?They would be stupid not to, scalpers are a fucking bane upon any fandom they get their shitty claws into, this is also why i hate when a hobby or game goes mainstream because its basically a carrion call to scalpers to come and feast and then you get this shit show of faux value for models, GW is not pricing for what these modesl are really worth, its being priced by faux scarcity due to GW running low numbers, and scalpers reselling them. >>97835305Sure, GW beats them on quality, but they dont beat them in terms of cost and amount of plastic is the thing. You can get a gundam that is the size of a warlord titan for the cost of a knight. Its not JUST detail that matters. Overall GW WAS the best in everything in the 00 and 10s but over the years they have no longer remained the best detailed AND the most bang for your buck AND the easiest to build AND the most durable. They used to have all of these, now you are just getting best quality and durability which IMO their price no longer justifies just those qualities.
>>97835295>kill tank 295 points>morkanaut 280 pointsI am safe
>>97835287Gunpla is a bit of a difference beast, Bandai stuff is so inexpensive because Bandai owns all the factories making their models, rather than having to pay someone else to manufacture their stuff. GW also owns all their factories though so that's not much of an excuse>>97835305Depends on what you buy, of course the cheap $15 model you can put together in about an hour won't have much detail aside from a few panel lines, but MGs and PGs have room for articulated inner frame, LED lighting, full cockpits, and more.
>>97835327bro just go through the archive if you need a reference.
>>97835325>WhalesYou mean scalpers. Thats whos really buying most of these things. GW is eventually going to price themselves into a hole were the only people buying them are scalpers, at which point even the scalpers wont be able to shift it anymore.> Warhammer just isn’t meant for you anymore.modern warhammer is not, or rather modern GW is not. I stopped buying shit from GW when they changed their website to the dog shit it is now. I have still been playing TOW and HH since then but have never bought from GW since. I just buy forge world east and laugh when 40k fanboys spend 4x as much as i do for like 1/3rd of the amount of models.
>>97835337I couldn't be fucked mr queenslander
>>97835318>>97835333
>>97835330I WON and you LOST
>>97835027That's the equivalent to what the burning of prospero was.
>>97835330>I had to look that up, I've never heard of that even onceBecause you're a phony. A big fat phony
>>97835353I don't play guard and I care not about the ten billion different tanks they have, especially legends
>>97835359>I don't play guard and I care not about the ten billion different tanks they have
>>97835359You're a phony.
>>97835373You do not know every god damn legends unit in the game bruh
>>97835375I have a decent understanding of most FW units, as any true 40k connoisseur should have
>>97835385guard is boring and I care not to learn their boring tanks
>>97835385ntaYou could theoretically in one list using the rule of 3, go to about 170k points with imperial guard. Highest in game.
>>97835389>Guard are boring>This nigga literally exists and came back from the dead.
>>97835400oh wow, a tank
>>97835339>Whales>You mean scalpers.Not that Anon but I guarantee you that whales exist and not in small number. The discussion about the new Defiler in my club had most people that played chaos debating if buying 2 of them or buying 3.
>>97835257>>97835258Way too busy. So much visual noise my eyes want to glaze over when looking at it. Looks like instead of having the defiler and soul grinder as separate things they just got lazy and smooshed them together. Now instead of having a cool warmachine you get this thing that looks like it wobbles and flails around comically if it tries to move.
>>97835406Tanks are kinda cool, they're like anchovies in pizza they grow on you
>>97835411OH i would not deny that, that sounds about right for 40k fans.Its why i was laughing at people who think the total warhammer 40k game is not gonna be the best selling total war game of all time with metric fuck tons of DLC that is just skin swaps. 40k fans are fucking mindless drones when ti comes to CONSOOOOOOMING anything with a 40k logo on it and then defending it as if it is their own child.
>>97835339Yeah warhammer is still cheap compared to other male hobbies for well to do people, and more nerds of means are getting into it, GW sales not going anywhere any time soon.
>>97835389You're a phony. A big fat phony. You're a despicable simian with a pedestrian sense of taste and style.
>>97835417>>97835433you can keep your smelly fish and your smelly tanks, smelly guard players
>>97834825I have my paints picked out for Lhykhis' skin. Stopping by the game store today to grab them.
>>97834825you will not trick me into painting space wolves!
>>97835439You're a phony and a tourist
>>97835439A rogal dorn bent you over the terrain busted you open, didn't it?
>>97835389>>97835439You already told us one hundred times, Paul. Go back to your centurions.
>>97835431>Warhammer is cheapEhhhhh no, i would argue that there are a lot more male hobbies that are a lot cheaper then warhammer. Warhammer has an expensive upfront cost, but also has a long time bleed cost as well. Most hobbies have a expensive upfront cost but a much cheaper long term cost. Example, even something extreme like dirt bike riding, its gonna have an expensive as fuck upfront cost, but then yearly cost for a dirt bike? Looking at maybe 300-400 a year? Baring any major breaks. Warhammer? if you are looking to build armies, your looking at easily 1200 a year if not more considering the models, paints, brushes, supplies. Warhammer is expensive as fuck as a hobby to play.....if you are not buying FW east. GW aint gonna go anywhere anytime soon so long as the economy keeps limping along, but im here to tell you if we hit a 2008 or worse style recession, yeah GW is gonna take a big fucking hit.
>>97835454Oh God he's going to lose it when they go to Legends in a few months, isn't he?
>>97835448learn a new word>>97835449guard has a million different boxes and none of them are cool>>97835454I don't watch him, his voice annoys me
>>97835459>Oh God he's going to lose it when they go to Legends in a few months, isn't he?And fucking hard
>>97835457400 a year seems a bit extreme. Maybe for people that start a new army every year. I've been on one army for almost a two decades now and rarely spend more than 200 an edition new kits.
>>97835442You'll want a reddish purple colour to do a filter with at the end and add life to the skin too. Assuming you don't already have one.
>>97835457>expensive as fuck upfront cost, but then yearly cost for a dirt bike? Looking at maybe 300-400 a year? Baring any major breaks.Not a dirtbike, but my friends up north have their own snowmobiles and I think one ride typically amounts to $500 all things considered. You have to count in malfunctions and transports and storage and everything. Warhammer is not expensive in comparison.
Is orange armour bad luck for space marines?>Angels Penitent: got taken over by a cult. Twice.>Fire Hawks: Lost the Badab war despite winning, small fraction became Legion of the Damned>Covenant of Fire: Very obvious Word Bearers successor, no repercussions yet>The Unnamed: Inherited the most grimderp angst about the Fallen>Wrathhost: Literally nobody cares, despite Nachmund being a big deal and *probably* being Ultima founding>Hammers of Dorn: Broke the curse by insisting it's bronze, still defined by seething about GuillimanIs the curse of orange real?
>>97835469Sure, you might only rock 1 or 2 armies, i do as well, but its just a lot of little things that adds up espeically when you see how some people buy 40k who just drop money every time a new thing comes out. I know people who have a fucking garage of shame with stacks and stacks of models and gray plastic. I think a lot of nerd hobbies are deceptivly expensive, you dont realize how much you are spending becuase you are just spending micro amounts here and there constantly Like if you buy 1 model kit a month, that does not sound like a lot, but then you realize if you are buying a single 50 dollar kit a month that's 600 a year for 12 kits. Dont even get me started on magic, holy fuck, magic is expensive as fuck.
>>97835457You can get an army for around 700$ and most people don't no life it and it will take 6 months to a year to assemble and paint the hwole thing it really isn't a pricy hobby.
>>97835481does it matter if covenant is totally not-wb? they're full on the promethean cult kool aid
>>97835479>snowmobiles To be fair, snowmobiles in genreal are a lot more fucking expensive then a dirt bike. I spend 5 grand on my dirt bike 5 years ago, and ride it almost every other weekend in the summer and spring, some times into the fall, and the only thing i pay for is gas, oil, and maintenance parts like filters and shit.
hey guys I need help with something.Are there images of a Orange Plasma effect somewhere like this style?
>>97835482>I know people who have a fucking garage of shame with stacks and stacks of models and gray plastic.Far be it from me to sweep for GW's whale-encouraging habits, but there's people who are wired to want to burn money filling their garage with junk, and life finds a way.
Let's be honest here. Saying that 40k is not an expensive hobby is like saying that smoking is not that expensive as long as you stick with a few cigarette every week. Technically true. Most people are still not going to do that.
>>97835491...put orange where they put blue.Ok, what number apple visualization are you, be honest.
>>97835476I've got some targor rageshade lying around. I no longer like acrylic washes, but I can still get some use out of that.
>>97835487>they're full on the ___ cult kool aidIt turns out all this time the Word Bearers just needed a nicer cult.
>>97835499People call 40k expensive because it super-inflated "past the inflation rate" and it's setting the standard of what to charge people.People are pissed off at them for it. It's like Ford bought his company ahead of trying to monopolize the company to sell the Model T for cheaper... Except he sold it at 280% higher rate instead.It's fucked bro.>yes I picked 280% because thats what GW did
>>97835490I believe you, but there's auxiliary costs like a pick up truck to transport it and such things that you don't really have to worry about with warhammer. And 5 grand is probably what I've spent on this hobby over a course of 25 years
>>97835502I rather not experiment and wait 3 weeks for each new paint to return to experimenting. I'm doing a bunch of models I rather not repeat.
>>97835499It isn't really expensive once you find out what other people are paying for theirs.
Have we reached the point that PC gaming is now more expensive than Warhammer?
>>97835230I don't think their actual factory costs are that high, injecting plastics and making molds is expensive but I think they probably have some of the most eye popping returns out there.There are other model makers out there doing high quality plastic kits for a fraction of the price. These prices are because people will pay them and being a very inflated corpo behemoth with a high quality IP that is currently trying to expand into basically every single space at once is what is costing them so much. That being said this is not changing any time soon and hell I don't think they're even remotely close to how much they can charge for these models and still have every single new thing they print run out in 15 minutes after going on the store. I'd wager they could easily cost double of what they cost right now and still sell like hotcakes.
>>97835526If you're buying multiple AAA games a year, then yes
>>97835530DLC*
>>97835526Unironically, yes. Although I'd still rank it as one of the more cost effective hobbies considering $ per hour of enjoyment. What's a decent PC nowadays? 3k? And it will be decent for 5 years or so?
>>97835516>>97835516>And 5 grand is probably what I've spent on this hobby over a course of 25 yearsWell to be fair then, and understand i dont say this out of disrespect or anything i just saying it as a fact, you have no spent very much on this hobby then, espeically in 25 years, that comes out to...16 dollars a month I have over probably 3-4k in knights/titans alone. Granted im on the upper end of the hobby spending so I wont pretend to usemyself as a metric. But i also suspect you are vastly underestimating your spending. Because your total cost would amit to buying like 3-4 paints a month. >>97835523It is when you compare it to other hobbies. For example. Guitar, i have spend like....800? maybe? and thats been it for like the last 4 yearsYou can do stone carving for less then 600 and then just either og pick up boulders in teh wild, or fill a bucket full of cement and carve that. Again, 40k has an expensive upfront and long term bleed cost. >>97835529A large amount of the cost for GW is actually from regulations, its why they are moving away from resin actually. the EU or UK rather, taxes the FUCK outta non recyclable materials like resin, and so it costs them a fucking arm and a leg to make them, its why if you buy resin in the US its super expensive but monumentally cheaper in the UK becuase they dont have to pay the taxes as much on it.
>>97835534>>97835526Depends. For example, if you drop like 3k on a new PC and your intent is only to play older games? Yeah your gonna get WAY more value outta that then warhammer. But thats a specific flavor of entertainment.
>>97835526It depends a lot on what games you play and how much. A gaming PC might have a big upfront cost, but the successive costs are very different if you buy an AAA game every month or if you proceed spending 5000 hours in LoL
>>97835499It depends on what you compare it to. Compared to hiking it's an expensive hobby. Compared to sailing it's dirt cheap.There's also obviously a bit of a humble brag in saying it's cheap. And also that there are different markets for it. For me as a yuro €150 is not a big deal, but it starts to inch into something I might think twice before buying. For an american $200 probably doesn't even register as money, it's like having a few beers with the lads for me.
>>97835554>For an american $200 probably doesn't even register as moneyooooo brother, you do not know how bad things are in teh US in terms of economy for the average 20-40 year old do you? Most people in the US cant even cover a 500 dollar emergency. Most people are living pay check to pay check in the US. 200 dollars for the vast majority of the US is a very large chunk of money to consider dropping on plastic toy men.
>>97835548>For example, if you drop like 3k on a new PC and your intent is only to play older games?You do not need a 3k PC to only play older games though.
>>97835514>yes I picked 280% because thats what GW didSomething to keep in mind with this is that it's almost as cheap to make an army out of OOP minis, if it's for a popular faction, as it is to use new models. That's almost unheard of, especially when the OOP ones are made of more expensive materials sometimes.If people were more rational, GW would be competing with their own secondary market, except they already do rules churn to get people buying models for "finished" armies.>>97835534I would argue that $ per hour can be a negative in opportunity cost. You can't measure happiness, but if I'd have a really good time spread over five hours, or the same amount of fun in 1 hour and then spend 4 hours doing something useful, the latter is probably better.>>97835554>For an american $200 probably doesn't even register as money, it's like having a few beers with the lads for me.>ladsDoubt.We're not fatcats because we spend $200 on a night out, we're poor because a night out costs $200 if we were to go.
>>97835554according to research teams roughly 74% of americans below age 40 are living paycheck to paycheck
>>97835568Correret you dont NEED a 3k computer buuuuuut, everything costs an arm and a fucking leg, thank you very much AI.>>97835571>We're not fatcats because we spend $200 on a night out, we're poor because a night out costs $200 if we were to go.This. Before covid i could spend 200 bucks get like 4 or 5 drinks, get like 3 lap dances and something to eat all at an over priced titty bar.Now? 200 bucks gets me like 3 drinks, a meal from a fastfood place and then that leaves me with like 120 ish left which is not a lot to do anything meaningful. Night out is fucking expensive now.
>>97835416alola-exeggutor is cool though
>>97835499Fuck you it's cheapMost people on this websites are perma-NEET losers or young people still working for pocket lintAnyone with a skilled career that doesn't have to support children is going to have a fair amount of expendable income. 800-1k plus a few hundred more for paints and accessories for a new army every year is cheaper than a lot of things that provide far fewer hours of entertainment
>>97835521Anon, I...
>>97835593"Young people still working for pocket lint" are 35 now. You're going in the gulag and/or showers.
Looking at yuropean alternatives to battlefoam, is Feldherr any good?
>>97835597>You're going in the gulag and/or showers.skill issuehave you tried not having worthless skills?
Just took a look at my usual place for ordering new releases at a discount>Defiler (SOLD OUT)>Kravek Morne (8)>Mutilators (3)>Knight Destrier (5)>AdMech Box (3)>Hastarii (11)>Thulia Guld (11)Why is the AdMech range so fucked that no one wants it?
>>97835593>Anyone with a skilled career that doesn't have to support children is going to have a fair amount of expendable income. 800-1k>20-40 year old man>no kids>no expenses >800-1000 disposable income ( assume 110k yearly income)>any race, height>Probability >.44% of the populationYeah anon i think you have a bias about how many of these people actually exist lol.
>>97835610>hard to paint>awful on the table top>ugly models>no interesting centerpiece unitshmm I wonder why
>>97835203>A lot of them, unironically, were AI images made to bulk out the Collage in an effort to hide how it is dying???
>>97835610They got mogged by Mechanicum again.
>>97834905Their heads are so laughably tiny compared to their bodies, god I hate space marine proportions
>>97835521With or without airbrush?
>>97835614>assume 110k yearly incomethis guy is fucking bad with money he thinks you need 6 figures to have money for entertainment
>>97834825Jain-Zar-sama will notice me!
>>97835604Hell yeah! I've been using this bag for a decade, now.
>>97835571The fact that spending less time on a hobby will grant you more time to work or doing chores isn't really important for the calculation, I think. I think entertainment cost per hour is completely justified to bring up if we're discussing if a hobby is expensive or not. And this is where 40k excells if you're doing every step of the hobby properly.
>>97835632If you have 110k yearly income you're losing at least 50% of that to taxes.
>>97835655Are you from fucking Denmark or something?
>>97835610>Those # of boxes leftI know the exact store lol. Do you actually live around the area or just order from them?
fact: there are no space wolves marines, they don't exist. They're all actually booby traps.
>>97835632>mfw I live in the Technocratic Kingdoms of Cali-Fornicum where 150k is barely above poverty
>>97835655In the US? no lol. you will lose about 20% to taxes>>97835632If you live anywhere in a city and are renting yeah your gonna need 100k before you can actually start considering luxury and being responsable at the same time. Sure you can live on like 70 or 60k and enjoy luxury spending of 800-1lk a month....if you are being irresponsible as fuck and not investing and saving.
I like the storm shield and hammer look a little more, but holy shit Lightning Claw Assault Terminators are so much easier to paint lmao.
>>97835664I live in the state, but in the lower half where most everyone is. I figure buying in-state is usually faster.
>>97835672>In the US? no lol. you will lose about 20% to taxesThe rest you lose to insurance and general cost of living being insufferably expensive for no goddamn reason.
>>97835655Surely you know how a progressive tax system works by now. Anyway, warhammer 40k?
I just had a though while trying to find a place to buy an Iron Warriors Warpsmith online. Do you think the US will get a shot at getting those Warhammer World exclusive minis when the US one opens up near DC next year?
>>97835672>spending of 800-1lk a monthOk but I specifically said one new army a year. Unless you're some slapchopping degenerate metawhore, it's going to take a while to stand up a good looking 2kpt army. Assuming you're not some painting fiend that must spend all their free time with a brush in hand.
>>97835677What's the 40k community like in that area? It's active here around the store you buy from, and the same store runs a pretty big tournament yearly along with frequent smaller tournaments.
>not being skilled enough at painting that the hobby pays for itself with enough left over to be profitable Embarrassing
>>97835719I doubt there are many (if any) commission painters here anon
>>97835696OH a year, ok fair, i normally look at finances on a month to month bases so when you said 800-1000, i thought you meant a month not a year, ok yeah thats fair, its a lot more reasonable to do that HOWEVER its still very are considering majority of us citizens live paycheck to pay check.
>>97835719I'd rather not deal with the local freaks in my town trying to lowball or scam me.
>>97835719By doing commissions? I bet most people would make more money working a second job or overtime or whatever. Painting for the sake of painting isn't really tempting for most people if they can't keep the models
Ive heard from commission painters that their best clients are people that also paint as they appreciate and understand the time and effort it takes to complete a project, the worst ones are the competitive waac players who have never painted in their life
>>97835719MOM! Anon is larping that he owns models again!
>>97835719Funnily enough the idea of doing an occasional character model to sell has been going through my head lately. How much could I get for something like Guilliman or Lion painted to high tabletop/low display standard?
>>97835745My best client was miniwargamingThey send a list of models they want painted, you tell them whatever price you want to charge and they just pay it. Wild.
>>97835758Do you still do commissions, anon?
>>97835694Only way to know is to wait. Worst case scenario you take a trip to nottingham. There are other exclusive kits you could always grab to resell
>>97835753I sometimes give my friends painted models as gifts. Try it. It's nice painting something different.
>>97835753Depends how good it looks and how long you want to have it sitting on eBay. I’ve sold single characters for 3x msrp but whole armies go faster and for more money.
>>97835499>X is expensive>But what about other super expensive stuffImmediately tells you something is expensive when people try to deflect/justify it>>97835526I still refuse to pay 60 bucks for a big game, now seeing we're at 80 minimum is wild to me.I'd rather wait for a sale, even for games I'm really looking forward to trying.
>>97835761Not really, I’ll just sell painted models on eBay or occasionally do commissions for a wealthy friend I’ve done 6 or so armies for.
>>97835776Get with the times, grandpa. The economy is fucked. Have you seen the price of beef? Coffee? Gas?
40k is a very consumerist franchise, but it's still a pretty fucking good hobby for pragmatic consumers.There are so many ways to scrimp and reuse that once you're established, you're pretty much set so long as you space out your projects and take short breaks. But maybe it's just because I'm the kind of person that looks at my oldest model on the shelf and says "I can do better" and breaks out the engine degreaser. If you need a new piece of plastic every time then maybe you should just sell off your shit and stick to vidya.
>>97835785>Get with the timesThat's why I'll be paying half a grand for a custom printable miniature yes
>>97835776here's a hint anonif everything else is more expensive, then this isn't expensive by comparison
>>97835719Last thing I want is for painting minis to be a job.Doing art for a living has already taken it's toll on my enthusiasm for it.
>>97835724>>97835719I am, but i stopped doing it because i found no joy in it , and i dont wanna turn my hobby of pleasure into a second job.
>>97835771Nice. I painted this guy for a friend I play SM2 with last year, I don't know if he will ever have an interest in the hobby but it's cool giving people personal gifts.
>>97835727This is also true, a lot of commission painters HORRIBLY low ball themselves.
Me? I pay more in rent for my group's locale than I actually spend on models and paint every month. 100% worth it
>>97835815>>97835782Do you two have any images of your work? Im interested to see it
>>97835806Your logic is retarded.>Expensive:>"Expensive" describes items, services, or experiences that cost a large sum of money, are high-priced, or exceed an average person’s budget.In short: expensive is compared to THE MONEY YOU HAVE, not OTHER ITEMS.
>>97835826Yeah this is my personal stuff This is something i would charge probably around 100 bucks for.
>>97835835>>97835826These are guys i would probably charge 25-30 bucks for.
>>97835835Looks nice anon
>Da 'Umies got a gargant-beakie! Run, boyz!
>>97835835Based....
>>97835839>>97835835This is something i would charge like probably 1000-1500 for, considering i would also need to be building this bitch.
>>97835815An ex of mine was friends with this weird old lady named Roberta who was on disability and made jewelry for extra cash. She got offended when I said making jewelry was her job since she considered herself an artist. I asked >do you depend on the income from your art>yes I do>than it’s your job.Making art and making money are mutually exclusive and whoever came up with the slogan >find a job doing what you love and you’ll never work a day in your lifeWas a no job retard. The easiest way to hate a hobby is to turn it into work. Once you add deadlines and an hourly price tag to your hobby you are on the fast track to hating it
>>97835839>25-30 bucksPer guy or for the 5?
>>97835826Here’s some 30k fists I did a few years ago
>>9783586325-30 per dude to that level of quality. probably on the 30 dollar side considering its plasma and those guys have a lot of extra detail on them. >>97835860This, its why the only time i have ever taken commissions is when its something that generally interests me.
>>97835863>anon is the lowballing gremlinGet the sock dreadnought
>>97835860>Old lady having fun doing what she does>NO, IT'S YOUR JOB, YOU CANNOT HAVE FUN YOU OLD HAGMaybe people like you make people hate their hobbies
The most I've spent on a "model" was around $400 for some OOP FW terrain. 400 bucks is basically what a dinner date costs at a mid range place
>>97835872>lowballingHave clear prices or expect people to ask you for clarity.I don't argue pricing but I do expect for my money to be respected too. This is a mutual exchange and fairness goes both ways.
>>97835860>tfw shitposts at my job for 8 hours a day>tfw love my job>tfw llove shitposting
>>97835878>400 bucks is basically what a dinner date costs at a mid range placewut>>97835883I'm not commission painting anon, maybe he's nice but I'm not.>I do expect for my money to be respected too.Yeah it's a good substitute for a personality.>This is a mutual exchange and fairness goes both ways.A. There is no exchange happening.B. The obviously wrong price is obviously wrong, you jeet scammer
>>97835172I don't bother with character models. Combat patrols and battleforces usually hand out hqs like candy, named characters can fuck off and die.Sucks that stuff like the defiler, knighhts and khorne lord of skulls are locked behind a retard-tier paywall.Also t he Lord of Skulls should be in the Chaos Knights list.
>>97835198I am actually annoyed to realize the upgrade sprue has not been released and it'll be months before they do it. The combat patrol is a bunch of shit I don't need that has the sprue I do need.
Based the new preorders are up, just picked up the sons of dorn battalion.
>>97835895>I'm not commission painting anonNo shit nigger
>>97835895>cab>drinks>food>dessert>mabye more drinks at some other place>cab home Really, 40k isn't expensive at all compared to normalfag hobbies
>>97835274No, scalpers exist because it's lucrative, and it's lucrative because of GW's pricing and FOMOs
>new defiler mini is out>its new rules aren't on the official app >none of the april 1st updates are What the fuck is GW doing? 3rd party apps shouldn't have 2 full days on the official product.
>>97835306See >>97835274it sells out because there's always faggots on ebay selling it for a markup>>97835262GW's bullshit is egregious because they keep raising prices during a recession when other companies like mcdonalds are begging customers to come back.
>>97835895You've never been on a date? I'm not surprised.
>>97835915>cab
>>97835878>$400 dinner date for a mid range restaurant could you do me a favor and break down what the bill looks like? because even the highest quality restaurant in my city only ranges around $120 per person, and what I consider mid range is about $30-$40 per person, so I don’t get where you’re getting $400 from.
>>97835915>>97835925Apparently he goes there in a fucking coach like he's Cinderella.
>>97835327
>>97835694how do you get them? Like they give them out for free as a grand opening thing or event thing, or is it like "limited time- spend 50 bucks on Glup Shitto, Iron Hands father".
>>97835925A three course menu is around $100. A cab will be $40 there and $60 home. The rest is spent on drinks for around $10-20 each
>>97835932holy shit can you keep the gore on /b/ please?
>>97835869Incredibly based.
>>97835844Still don't get why the fuck they put a primaris ultramarine in a book about the third war for armageddon.
Holy the new Eye of Terror Battalion and the new Iron Warriors combat patrol both just sold out.
>>97835930Just a regular ass taxi driven by a smelly Turk talking to his cousins using a hands-free. In most civilized countries DUI isn't the norm.
>>97835932not him, but thanks for posting because I didn’t realize you used bare red shoulder pads with no “teeth” on them like the grey hunters have. this will make it easier to make my submission.
>>97835947Jealousy is unbecoming brother
>>97835970The irony.
What happened to this TS battleforce? Why is it gone from the official shop but still on random resellers?
>>97835925>2x 100>40>60>2 to 6 x 10 = 20 to 60Checks out, nearing 400 pretty quickly
>>97835947There is not going to be an.in a couple of years. Someone on /m/ leaked what's going on with the site.https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23803175/#23803175
Here is your defiler bro
>>97835932>massive overspray/drybrush mistakes with the yellow>armor is literally just one coat + fucktons of wash with big dark spots where it pooled>too pussy to paint the inside of the flyer>lots of decals don't make sense, why would the SWs have hammers and gryphons and a fucking playing card club on their shit>decals also probably hiding other mistakes
>>97835985I wonder how much 4chan costs to purchase and maintain
>>97835970why would I be jealous of a turd on the side of the road?
>>97836001Looks like a nu-doom enemy.
>>97836004Moot himself said it broke even back then. I doubt the site has expanded significantly. Also this is probably schizo nonsense anyway because the odds of them actually telling the jannies anything are slim. I highly doubt their opsec is that good.
Hello, do someone have the scans of v10 end books like 500 world or Maelstrom?
Could I just cheat my way to having passable eyes by using a micron pen?
>>97835932
>>97836039No but you could definitely cheat your way to having a micron pen by having passable eyes
>>97836001Welcome back quake
>>97835874Nah Roberta was a Janice soprano, literally taking Medicaid for Epstein-Barr. That bitch was miserable before I met her, which makes it easy to assume you are too
>>97836039I found swords and brushes (youtube channel for mesbg) to have the easiest method for painting eyes. Thanks to his videos I managed to paint this Gandalf. I like to think it's passable.
>>97835932I know it's fun shitting on austimo but, outside of the Dreadnoughts, which I dislike more for being gaudy as opposed to the decals, I kinda like the vehicles. Yes, it's a bit much and I personally prefer models that emulate a battle worn aesthetic, but it's not the worse thing.
>>97835932Ty decal man
>>97836082>I kinda like the vehiclesIt's literally just two colors and basic detail painting. Without the decal spam they'd be plain as shit.
>Assault on Black Reach was 60 bucks when it came out for 47 minis + rules + dice + templates
>>97835977every battleforce box is a FOMO box now
>>97836108We've lost the science behind starter sets. We don't knoe how to do them anymore. It's lost technology
>>97836095>It's literally just two colors and basic detail paintingWell I didn't say they were parade ready masterpieces, but for playing the game they're fine. I don't engage with decalfag so I don't know how good he acts like his model painting skills are.
>>97836082His models look fantastic compared to the average player and I'm tired of pretending they don't!
>>97836123>I don't know how good he acts like his model painting skills are.He claims to be "one of for sure" the best painters in /40kg/ and routinely says he "mogs" other people's models and paintjobs.
>>97836123>I don't know how good he acts like his model painting skills areThat's one of the many issues with him, he pretends these incredibly low effort paintjobs are somehow a lot better than they actually are.
>>97836122
>>97835878>>97835943you know what, maybe being single isn’t so bad.
>>97836140Well then fuck him
>>97836140>>97836139I'm clearly one of the better painters and sculptors here but because you pretend I'm not and attack me with vicious condemnations you end up scaring away new modelers and painters.
>>97836152>better painters>chalky drybrushing and flooded details>better sculptors>zero moldlines or spruegates cleaned and gaps left unfilledlol!
trying to paint space wolves well is like polishing a turd, it just isn't worth it
>>97836146case in point >>97836152
>>97836161Where's the lie?
>>97836164right here >>97836156
>>97836077That Gandalf is amazing anon, would love to have him in pictures with my army XD
>>97836164You didn't sculpt anything in your life, you can't even assemble cleanly and your painting barely qualifies as battle ready. I don't have an issue with any of these but pretending it isn't lazy and low effort hobbying is disingenuous, unless of course you're just shitposting for attention.
>>97836199Post your models dumb ass
>>97834571just bought a titan so it tracks that james would squat them
That's some fat ass baby
Now I think I actually want to order bits to kitbash kravek instead of just getting the model...
>>97836202>posts imperial fistsanon, you’re meant to be impersonating decalfag. keep up now.
>>97836215I posted it because he looks like a dope chad, now post your models cretin.
>>97836202So you can obsess about them every single time I post like you do for others that btfo'd you? No thanks lmao
>>97836226it's all so tiring dealing with my inferiors...
>>97834625what the fuck anon
>I've got bitboxes so deep I can do whatever I wantI want everyone to experience this. It's basically like playing with legos again. The same childish joy seeing your project materialize from the realm of imagination into reality
And now, back to guardsmen
>>97836238Don't draw attention to that filth
>>97836236whatever helps you cope, hobbylet
>>97836243>nu-cadian legsBut why? The traitor guardsmen are without those silly pads. Cutting of some eight pointed stars shouldn't be thst much work
>>97836254The kneepads I don't have an issue with.The elbow pads on the gun crews are another thing though.
>>97835977>a bunch of crap>and a vortex beast250 dollars, take it or leave it.
>>97836244>not wanting a girlfriend who is maimed and thus totally reliant on you and can never leave and is grateful for you hand feeding her and wiping her bum.
>>97836283It's 180 eurobucks in my cunt
A sloppily-assembled paint list for any other brown elf enjoyers.
>>97836240I need more spare space marine bodies. And spare tarellians. And spare drukhari and kroot. Not ghouls fuck ghouls I'm not going to the gw store for the 'free' ghoul.
>>97836291
>>97836152Paintjobs aside, what have you actually sculpted yourself? Asides from your Knights with the 3D printed heads every single one of your models seems to be built exactly to the instructions with zero kitbashing involved.
red chaos marines awaken my neurons
>>97836307Red gets old
>>97836305Many things but we've moved on so lets not go back.
>>97836303some men just want to watch petite anime girls get fucked while helpless.
>>97834625stop posting your furry porn here decalpedo
>>97836320lying again lmao
>>97836320>I've kitbashed many things>but I'm not going to post them>now let's change the subjectLiar. LIIIAAAR.
>>97836312"charges and kills you" Back the fuck up?!
>>97836320>but we've moved onThe hell we have. What are "many things"
>>97836320post timestamped sculpted models
>>97836326I hate that its probably you that actually posted it
Can a 200 point mutilator squad even kill a 150 point custodian guard squad?
>>97836343so this is the emperor and primarchs but who is that one really huge naked guy
>>97836338>>97836334I'm not a monkey with a tambourine here to make you giggle, go hobby.
>>97836343stop impersonating the decalpedo
>>97836348probably Magnus
>>97836350see >>97836351
>>97836350I am literally kitbashing a model together right now as we post. Please enlighten the thread on what "many things" you've sculpted.
>>97836348space sharks chapter master
>>97836244Shut the fuck up, decalhomo
>>97836350hellblaster status?
>>97836350that's literally what you are to this thread thoughbeit
>>97836295>Boney spikes
>>97834625
>7 attacks at strength 12, -2>6 atacks at strength 16, -3knight niggers should fear my defiler
This picture was created to anger anon who loves Space Marines and their French Vanilla Primaris.
>>97835054we've got xenosfags making models based off of mentions in books and your average marine player has 20 trillion models and is whining because there isn't an extra upgrade sprue for whatever the fuck they want
>>97836351>>97836358Why are you like this?
>>97836374we dont use that word here
>>97836385Post kitbashed Hellblasters
>>97835442So is this Topaz Skin as a base and buffed hide on top, leaving the recesses as topaz?
>>97836376Vanilla is pretty esoteric when you think about it. How could a parasite flower become the "normal" taste?
>>97836385where's the sculpting?
>>97836399>>97836390I'm going to play a game I'll be back to hang with my peeps later. Have some fun this weekend guys!
>>97836385>he actually still posts here and it hasn’t been random dudes impersonating himits honestly so sad to see there are actual people like this existing.
>>97836385Hey thanks ban-evader this will help next time you try to claim this didn't happen or you were being falseflagged
>>97836404his behavior is absurdly similar to chris-chan, it's pretty much guaranteed he's autistic
>>97834825The hype for the Total Yiffer Death collage is crazy. There's so many people making things and they're even getting done early. I think this could be the highest turnout collage yet!
>>97836403You mean the game you've been saying you're going to have for the past few weeks? The same way that you've been saying you'll finish your Hellblasters this weekend, or the last weekend, or the last weekend, or the... you get the point.
>>97836396Yep.
is it bad if i kinda like space wolves for their runes and shit? its kinda cool in a fun stupid way(im NOT decalfag do NOT fucking shower me with (you)s telling me to paint my hellblasters, i dont even own any, yell at me to paint my infernus marines if anything)
>>97836435Paint your infernus marines
>>97836435votann and word bearers both make extensive use of runes without any furry autism slapped on.
>>97836376>mfw there are people who cry about how sigmarines reviving is supposed to be bad when it's literally einherjar>mfw the same franchise with skeletons, daemons, chaos resurrecting whenever they want, Necron reanimation, and Swarmlords with the same consciousness, and numerous non-good guy factions who lolnope death all the time but that's okay
>>97836452yeah but votann are basically unfinished and arent most of the runes just drawn on metal mining rigs?>>97836451ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh IM TRYING okayyy maybe next weekenndddddddd ughhhhhhhhh (i will be buying more things that will be done before them because im apparently allergic to painting battleline)
Primaris are gay and ruined 40k.
>>97836435Give Bear Marines
>>97836453It's literally ok when the bad guys do it
>>97836460>posts primaris
>>97836385>could have posted the timestamp alongside one of the "many things" he's kitbashed and dispelled the swamp of accusations>didn'tYep. Confirmed for a liar. Meanwhile all the collageposters he keeps shitting on are pumping out dozens of kitbashes for April's collage.>>97836435I'd say kind of, yes. The viking and wolf motifs are spammed almost as hard as the mutant's decals, and need to be cut in at least half.Speaking of the collage and decals, is anyone here painting a transport vehicle for the collage?
>>97834825Got things printed and into the appropriate subassemblies; current working out the exact posing before I get to the battle damage.
>>97836460>he says while posting a primaris marine that's just wearing a mk7 helmet while using a primaris style heavy bolterThe lady doth protest too much, methinks.
>>97836435you can have a chapter use runes without being associated with the space wolves in the slightest
>>97836465maybe its just because it's a passing appreciation i havent seen like, how bad it can getlike, i've painted ONE and it was the free one GW gave out, and i had a fun time with it
>>97836376No, what angers me, a I don't even play aos, is I'm reminded of the retarded newfags in the whfb community. We didn't care about any muh grounded shit. We cared about big heavy armor vikings with demon swords.
>>97836475...you can? im kinda new so i wasnt aware anyone but them and their successors used it
>>97836385>that las cannon barrel on the right>retarded glow on the front armor for no reason>shittyly painted heat effect on the left tank's gatling guns>obvious hull lines>0 washes used or shading or highlights>atrocious airbrush "lighting" effect on the terrainFucking god awful.
>>97836453Your new zombies have arrived.
>>97836385why is it so dusty?
The only way to save 40k is if the primary ass marines turn out to be just as insane as the thunder warriors and need to be put down.
>>97836484Wfb knew what was cool. Middle aged women and niggers everywhere is not cool. Pygmies? Those niggas cool. Niggers in Couronne ? Not cool. Jean d'Arc carbon copy? Cool. 50% of your household knights being femoids? Not cool. People instinctively kneo whats cool
>>97836484To be fair, goblins are historically grounded.They were a very common part of regional folklore all over Europe that came about to explain all sorts of random shit that happened that people didn't have explanations for.Actual goblins being in WHF, a setting heavily inspired by medieval europe, at least in the Bretonnia and Empire area, does make sense. Also WHF, a game made by a british company, aka european company.
>vanilla vs French vanillaI don't want WHFB or AoS to get more human factions specifically so they can avoid becoming like 40k with Marines taking up all the attention.
>>97836435Paint your Hellblasters, pedo.
>>97836497Trying too hard.
Fantasy Battle has taken the lead in the cool department a while ago.
How many chaos terminators is enough?What legion is the most terminator coded?
>>97836503>>vanilla vs French vanillaIce cream boys at it again.
>>97836499>Jean d'Arc carbon copy? Cool.No it was shit and fuck Stillman's cereal box Arthurian slop. Fuck what was after but it was completely uninteresting. Fuck Cathay, fuck Nippon, fuck these bland takes on mythology.
>>97836509>no obese brown women in sighthow did AoS get it so wrong?
>>97836509I found the older marauders better. Especially the horses. These just don’t make me feel anything. It’s just white noise.
>>97836514black legion is all about the terminators
>>97836514>What legion is the most terminator coded?Black Legion and Iron Warriors
>TOWTrannies have infested even the 40k thread for literally 0 reasonthey're really having a melty because GW is abandoning their game (no reveals LOL) and no one plays it so they have nothin else to do, huh? i guess they gotta do SOMETHING as they dilate their axe wounds
What if >generic fantasy Monty Python faction and nobody bought it then people cry when it's squatted?
>>97836507Why not? They were as big, and maybe the emps deliberately toned down the marines to prevent the insanity. Then Cawl comes alone trying to "improve" things by dicking about and restoring the old flaws in the process..
>>97836518My penis is suddenly interested in AoS thanks to your post. Tell me more.
>>97836483I bought a box to kitbash with, and I shit you not the average space wolf bit has at least one wolf or rune greebly on it.
>>97836497>>97836532you already exposed yourself as a tourist with your first attempt at baiting when you didn't know you were posting with a gif of a primaris
>>97836544Desperation.
This picture is me pretending to like unpopular WFB factions. I will now act hipster and pretend to like 40k factions nobody likes and demand factions nobody wants get a codex.
>>97836488space wolves don't have an ownership on viking themes in the imperiumthe culture either resurfaced coincidentally on fenris, or it resurfaced due to factors that could have been present on other human coloniesfor example the leagues of votann also have runic viking themes, and the votann themselves are golden age supercomputers and STCs, which may mean other old STCs may have similar runic inclinationsnot to mention you could have your imperial planet influenced by the squats themselves in ages past for an easier explanation
>>97836541i think at least one is fine, imo. the free mini they gave out has a little fang on the shoulder and one on the arm and i think that's alright for keeping the faction visually consistent, but maybe im just not aware of how it looks all grouped together>inb4 someone hits me with "coping space wolf player"i actually run a custom chapter like a faggot
I missed the Dorn Battalion preorder, my FOMO is immeasurable and my day is ruined
>>97836376>mfw when I realized Sigmarines aren't Space Marines>they're literal Thunder Warriors
>>97836558you snooze you lose
>>97836516It's so funny that guy pushed for years to make people believe his fake story and it never once worked
>>97836521>I found the older marauders betterYou do not actually think that.
>>97836563I can't argue with you, your argument is so correct I can't refute it. I will simply have to hope my LGS gets one that I can grab.
>>97836558I still haven't touched the dorns from the Christmas box two years ago. I sold off the cadians but I can't figure put if I want to do StuG-al Dorns or keep it vanilla
>>97836527It's probably just /twg/ runoff
>mfw no bear vikings
>>97836568I do. They’re not a mess to paint like whatever that bundled garbage you posted before looks like. I also had plans to kitbash the marauder horsemen into centaurs before but they also replaced that for jigsaw puzzles that are also overdesigned and busy as hell.
>>97836576no no, the box with the two repulsor executioners, the redemptor, and the ballistus.
>>97836560Heh, not wrong.
>>97836583>They’re not a mess to paintskill issue
Id hate to be the decal enthusiast, if I posted anything and someone asked me if I had finished my kommandos yet every time id lose it
>>97836385Don't you have a game today?
>>97836590Kommando status?
>>97836243How can I traitor guard
I like orks :D
>>97836617Who asked?
>>97836617Based>>97836624I did
>>97836617I liek kroot :DD
>>97836624I asked.
>>97836624I arskt
>>978366095/10 are done but not based
i like tau
>>97836617I like orks too :D how are your kommandos coming along?
What did GW mean by this?
>>97836555>space wolves don't have an ownership on viking themes in the imperium the culture either resurfaced coincidentally on fenris, or it resurfaced due to factors that could have been present on other human coloniesI'm having a chuckle now thinking of the expanse. That area of Mars that was colonized by Indians and Texans. Ended up with the solar system polluted with Jeets wearing ten gallon hats saying y'all.
>>97836463Does this mean they are allowed if they start molesting kids?
>>97836643HOLY BASED
>>97836649It's klinge is what it is.
>>97836491Chaos Xenos when?
>>97836649It's Yarrick don't get your hopes up
>>97836649Night Lords are Lame and Cringe
Eldar are cool. Necrons and old ones are not canon, and they built the webway.
>>97836661It's ok for fictional bad guys to molest kids, yes.
>>97836385Ew
>>97836674No u
>>97836460Is it a bit weird that after so long the MK7 helmet has still persevered as an iconic symbol of 40k despite GW trying to make the MK10 helmet the symbol? How did it persevere?
>>97836657>Indians and TexansCowboy Marines?
>>97836697The mk10 looking like hockey equipment isn't helping.
>>97836707>umm but its okay when they look like birds
>>97836646long since done. working on the collage submission now :D
>>97836716where is the defeated space wolf, ass presented in the air in submission against his superior orc enemies?
>>97836697Mk10 basic Tacticus helmet looks like a chinlet, an airsoft helmet and is pudgy to boot. It's irredeemable, no matter how hard GW tries to make it a thing.Gravis and Phobos helmets are better
>Word BEARers>no BearsI am sad.
>>97836716What are you doing for the collage? Ive still gotta order my mini for it
>>97836715NTA butBirds are cool and the Imperium's symbol being a double headed eagle kind of works well with it.I would have liked the Primaris marines more if they used the spike-less MK3 helmet. But I like both the Mk3 and the nuMK3.Because LOGH made me like German things.
Is Angron's right knee guard supposed to be like his shoulder with the iron teeth and rust effect between them?
>>97836697Putting aside that MK7 was THE helmet for the majority of the hobbies history, I put it on the Astartes guy. Primaris came out but then ASTARTES released a year later and everyone jizzed themselves so hard over it and how perfectly it captured the setting.
>>97836497>PMs fleeing eradication of course turn to the powers of Chaos to help them to survive>all surviving PMs are now Chaos Space Marines, larger and tougher than loyalists who are now only firstborn>And the strength dichotomy between untainted humans vs. Inhuman Chaos tainted warriors of Fantasy is restored to 40k
>>97836715well, yeah
>>97836736>>And the strength dichotomy between untainted humans vs. Inhuman Chaos tainted warriors of Fantasy is restored to 40kIt should've been>All Marines are CSM and the Horus Heresy was all of them becoming traitors
>>97836728>world eaters>only loyalists eat worlds
>>97836722>>97836729no body I’m afraid, the armor got blown to bits. they did get his lifeless head watching the orks pawn off whatever they could scrap though!
Is there anything more pathetic then fakegrogs fantasizing about Primaris all being killed
>>97836752cool diorama
Armies for this feel?
>>97836753>defending the sigmarines of the 41st millennium
>>97836715bascinets are kinofuck you
Is it strange I'm enjoying the way AoS handles Chaos more than 40k?
>>97836778One has Chaos Warriors and the other doesn't, so no not at all.
>>97836778What's the difference
>laurels not wrapping around helmet quite right>cut it in half >lose helmet>get new replacement helmet>laurels don't look like they would have fit just fine on it with out cutting it>image limit reached so i can't even post mfwrip
>>97836753ToW players
>>97836778Not really. It's not really much of an accomplishment to handle Chaos better than 40k. 40k is probably at it's best the less Chaos shows up, or rather the less Chaos Space Marines at least.
>>97836785Their demons are cool. Sadly the image limit has been reached so no cool demon pics for you.
>>97836759>gayBlood or dark angels
New thread because image limit tradition>>97836798>>97836798>>97836798
>>97836785Chaos is a tangible and universal force like gravity and shit so you can actually interact with it instead of it only really interacting with you. You can also actually purify it reliably instead of blowing a planet up, genociding an entire city, or degloving your best friend because he grew a third arm. All three of those things still happen funnily enough but chaos is less “you lose” and more “you fell into a rampaging river filled with mutant hippos”
>>97836785There's Slaanesh daemons scrambling around and infighting over what to do i.e. try and repalce Slaanesh vs bring him back at all costs. There's different interpretations of Khorne>Brass Belladonna, Kharneth the Axe Father, the Blood Kraken, the clockwork canine known as the Red Hound that drips blood and tears time, Kalkor the Red Scorpion, Kursk the Raging Hound, the Blood Crow, Arkhar the First Betrayer, the Godeater, the red daemon Oxhead worshiped by beastmen, the pig-faced King Cleaver venerated by butchers, the Red Ruin, the sharklike Khar-Khaarnadon that rises from depths when fresh gore is spilled in the ocean, and the Ice Reaver whose worshipers carry harpoons made of frozen blood.like an 8 limbed spider because his sacred number is 8.
>>97836484But WFB is grounded in historical ideas.Grounded doesn't mean "everything is historicals".Don't be a retarded faggot.
>>97836812>But WFB is grounded in historical ideas.NTA but it's retard fantasy Europe filled with retcons and completely unrealistic, ahistorical, Monty Python jokes. If you're not trolling then you're exactly the mudcore slurper who fundamentally misunderstands WHFB and even the /vg/ Total War general would shit on you.Also fuck what they did to Bretonnia. Anyone who likes Stillman's Bretonnia is literally a child, at least mentally. It all reads like the most generic and fluffy children's book with a title like "My First Book About Knights" or something. Not saying Reynolds boring grimfest was any better, but dammit at least it had the big tweest of Bretonnian leadership being literally WElf plants. Controversial though it may be amongst HFY fans (I don't really mind it personally). Stillman's Bretonnia deserved being forgotten for providing 0 reasons for a player to engage with the army beyond "me likey the colourful horsies". Indeed most players I met who started Bretonnia in that era (2 guys but still) both painted their Brets as historicals (HYW Burgundians and Bretons respectively) and basically ran with their own fluff based on medieval France.IMHO the best official stuff we ever got for Bretonnia was the KOTG sourcebook. /wfg/ hates it because it continues the hated plotline of WElfs controlling a lot of Bret society indirectly, but I quite like it. It does a lot to diversify the previously very one tone fluff with loads of examples that make the country actually come alive instead of being a thinly veiled ad for plastic miniatures.
>>97836822>NTA but it's retard fantasy Europe filled with retcons and completely unrealisticAnd that means it's grounded in history. You got filtered by English. Not gonna read the rest.
>>97836697Mk7 persists because it was the face of 40k for decades.The same thing would happen if in a hypothetical scenario where the primaris mk10 helmet came first and had been around for decades as the face of 40k before GW tried to replace it with mk7.It's the simple of an answer.
Decalfag and myself are too busy kissing pretty girls to keep up with the reveals. How much is the new AdMech milf and are the new Skitarii worth using?
>>97836832>>NTA but it's retard fantasy Europe filled with retcons and completely unrealistic>And that means it's grounded in historyOther anon but your response to >completely unrealistic and retcons Is it being grounded? The fuck? There's history rewriting and then there's saying reality retroactively gets changed like it's TES CHIM.
