Repeat after me: MAKE. YOUR. POTIONS. IN. PILL. FORME!Pills are ancient, they predate Egypt! We made pills better in medieval Europe by putting them inside purified nontoxic silver to boost power, we don't do that anymore because it's too expensive.Whole reason why we take pills and don't drink medicine is because any medicine is just 0.1% active ingredients, putting it inside a pill is more efficient, making it a drink is wasteful.Realistically in DND, if potions were real, they'd kill adventurers, all over the Adventures Guild you'd see newspapers like:>SSS-rank barbarian killed in the Dungeon because drinking healpot takes too long!>LVL 99 thief killed in the Dungeon because he choked on manapot... it went down the wrong hole!>The Hero killed in the Dungeon because he tripped down stairs and broke all pots!Potions? Not even once! Pills are the right way.
What a lovely, on-topic and spot-on thread!
>>97835768Do you know how large and how many pills you'd have to take just to get the benefits of one potion?Tossing down a handful of 22mm pills dry is going to be an unpleasant experience, and still will be even if chased down by a glass of water.While most of a potion is water, it's still easier to just chug a bottle of something over taking that high of a dosage in pill form.
Pills require grinding down and homogeneizing the ingredients, and fiddling with binding agents and presses.A salve can be cooked up in a copper pot, and stored in a boiled gourd.Also, not all medicines are for internal use.
>>97835841>In this setting all potions have to be an enema hahaha that would be crazy hahaha
>>97835768>>SSS-rank barbarian killed in the Dungeon because drinking healpot takes too long!>>LVL 99 thief killed in the Dungeon because he choked on manapot... it went down the wrong hole!>>The Hero killed in the Dungeon because he tripped down stairs and broke all pots!Who are you quoting? Also I realistically doubt that you actually play games>>97835837They are magical so obviously you can take just a small one, how dumb are you?
>>97835768>take magic pill>have to wait for it to digest instead of going directly into your bloodstream
>>97835841>Pills require grinding down and homogeneizing the ingredients, and fiddling with binding agents and presses.Yeah potions are just so much easier to create
don't xianxia and cultivation stories feature lots of pills
>>97836337Chinese internal alchemy is the process of using your own body as the furnace to craft your own golden core/pill
>>97835768Cool idea, definitely adapting that. Never liked the idea of potions anyway. Like, are you supposed to just chug a whole bottle of liquid in one go?
>>97835837Instead of studying alchemy, you should work on your art
>>97836391How long do you think it takes you to drink 1 oz of liquid?
>>97836337Yes, complete with mercury for guaranteed immortality!
>>97835768Wait, you guys have been drinking your potions? Those are meant to be applied topically!
>>97836740>potionsEnjoy your miscibility table results
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>>97835768Really I think potions would be alcohol-based infusions and EXTREMELY bitter
>>97835768And the chocolate coating makes it go down easier!
>>97835768>>97835837It's this one actually: >>97836335The liquid nature of potions is a feature: you drink the potion and it's immediately available to your body; readily absorbing into the mucous membrane of your guts. You make a pill and the pill's casing has to be broken down, digested, and your little microbes have to circulate it through various systems 'till it gets to your body. If I could, the potion and the pill are both perfectly practical, but they serve different medical applications:-The potion is best for immediate use despite the complications and expenses regarding storage, dosage, etc.. You wouldn't even necessarily need to consume the potion: getting it on your skin, pouring it on a wound, may be sufficient. Butt-chugging a potion would also have immediate effects. Likewise, in some circumstances; a potion could be theoretically thrown or splashed onto an ill person.-The pill is superior in terms of shelf-life, transportation, storage, is infinitely cheaper, and has the benefit of delayed use. Magical pills would be more practical for long journeys away from society and would be of better use to normal people. Furthermore, the fact the pill takes 30 minutes to 2 hours means pills can be taken preventively: your adventurer pops a pill in anticipation of poison, disease, or massive damage.
>>97835768Seems interesting. I could see it being a more expensive alternative (with the purified silver), but have the advantage of making it quicker to use than a potion. But in any instance where you have time to sit down and bandage your wounds, a potion is cheaper and just as effective. Works well as a way to add more depth to alchemy as a system, where there's now an extra balancing act between utility and cost.
>>97836335>>97837011Maybe a reduced or delayed effect in exchange for ease of use, like requiring a faster action type rather than a full one? It also takes up much less space and you don't have glass bottles with liquid sloshing around.
>>97836755Doesn't apply to healing
>>97837095Could have it so any effect triggers at the start of the character's next turn, so that even if it doesn't require a full action to consume, there is still some planning involved. Weighing less is also a potential aspect, although potions aren't exactly the heaviest thing anyway.
>>97836415Obsessed
>>97837304I don't think there's many cases where the volume/weight of potions actually becomes an issue, and it mainly would depend on the dose and size of the container anyway.
>>97837665I think it has to do with WoW, where, at least in vanilla, the icons for healing potions seemed to depict larger volume flasks for better potions.
>>97836372And they also use pills. You gotta eat write and they probably experiment with all sorts of shit, so a pill wouldn't be too insaneI had some webm from a donghua of some xianxia just fucking guzzling the things
>>97835768Don't most pills take hours to start working. Like they have to break down, be digested, flow through the bloodstream, and be processed by the liver. How would that be better than something that can be used instantly both by drinking or used topically?I can dump a potion on a party member that is unconscious and have them back in the fight in a single turn.How the fuck do I get a knocked out person to take a pill in the middle of a fight? Shove it up their nose?
>>97839408You poke it up their bumhole, then you wait.
How bout treating each wound and ailment separately like the autists that we are
>>97839551We are talking magic emergency trama care mostly. Leave the realistically healing to after the battle is done, otherwise it makes the game significantly worse for no gain.
>>97836335You have to digest some fluids too you know. It doesn't all just go into your body instantly.Of course all that hinges on how magical the nature of the healing is. If it's almost entirely magical the delivery won't matter.
GUYS WAIT YOU'RE BOTH WRONG.Hear me out.Fruit Gushers Healing Potions. You bite in, the healing component is then swallowed.
>>97839670Then you run into doses mattering.In most games you have to chug a whole very large flask by end game. The more hit points or equivalent the heal the bigger the pot generally gets.Do you know how many pills you would have to munch on to equal the same dose?And as others have pointed out, you don't necessarily have to drink a potion for it to work. You can just splash it on your ouchie bits and you are good to go. Can't do the same for pills.
>>97836999>You wouldn't even necessarily need to consume the potion: getting it on your skin, pouring it on a wound, may be sufficient.I was going to say Magic Healing Juice might work better as a topical...
>>97839408You would need an approach to potions (pills), or let's say buffing, that's like the witcher: you take them before the fight you know is coming. So more preparation and less emergency and situational button. Unless you just delay the effect like discussed before.
>>97836335>>97836335Alright, new plan. For the fastest acting and most compact solution, use powders.Healing potion? Apply directly to the cut.Haste potion? Snort that shitFlight potion? Right up the butt
>>97839681Here's my setting's healing potions.
>>97839718Wait why is the flight potion a suppository?... You know on second thought maybe I don't want to know.
>>97839670I have seen a system use syringes as a delivery method as a way to have the effects of a potion be instant rather than delayed. But no matter what any sort of medicine having an effect within 10 seconds is unrealistic, so you're right that any sort of distinction is just a nod towards realism rather than any actual representation of how it should work.
>>97836335Real alchemists use autoinjectors.
>>97839742Technically, you could snort that one too, but if I'm in the process of falling off a cliff, it the powder might go everywhere. So, I just stick my damp finger in the potion and up the pooper it goes. Kicks in quick enough to survive, provided you're wearing proper classical adventuring attire. (Pantsless)
>>97839810It's easter anon, is this how you are going to spend it?
>>97839810There's been plenty of actual discussion of how to mechanically implement pills relative to potions. At least read the thread before you start bitching
>>97839822Anon, at this point assuming that he actually wants to do anything but shitting up every thread is futile. In threads about games he asks "what worldbuilding setting?" instead. He's just that pathetic.
>>97839408>>97839711In this case, wouldn't a healing pill be more like giving someone a low level of fast healing or regeneration for a bit, good for smaller wounds so they don't build up?
>>97839878That or a lingering effect that applies the healing after the damage is done, but it sure starts being more complicated than it needs to be, on the fluff side.
>>97835768it's satanic game, ofc it will be potions witches brewed>Realistically in DNDI have personal grudge all these works instantenously, no digest time
>>97835768>nontoxic silver
>>97836335So maybe rectal suppositories?They were known to ancient Egyptians and they are absorbed faster than pills.
