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>GURPS Ultra Tech is apparently bad
>People say to not reskin 5e (e.g. Ultramodern 5)
>Stars Without Number is just OSR grog slop
What systems are actually good for running sci fi games then?
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>>97839664
>GURPS Ultra Tech is apparently bad
Mostly the weapons, and even that only because it becomes rocket tag if you don't curate the weapon list
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Anything wrong with Traveler?
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>>97839704
Is it generic enough? I heard the vehicle and ship rules are pretty setting dependent.
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>>97839724
All I know of Traveler is that it is one of the more popular TTRPGs. Possibly the most popular sci-fi based one, but I'll leave it another anon who actually plays it to give you his opinion.
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>>97839731
Okay. But Traveller also feels different due to the dice used.
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>>97839704
I heard you can die during character creation.
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>>97839664
>Stars Without Number is just OSR grog slop
Not really.

Have you looked at M-Space?
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>>97839731
It's also one of the oldest TTRPG's to be something that's more of its own thing mechanically instead of following D&D's formula.
>but I'll leave it another anon who actually plays it to give you his opinion.
Same

I know it was considered very setting agnostic early on, but that's only a fun fact because they started adding game specific lore due to people asking for it so it probably is setting dependent.
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Gurps Space is still a good tool for sf/space opera.
Stars Without Numbers is great for generating a sandbox campaign. I have a soft spot for the Dead Names extension.
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Are Space Marines cooler than Space Fascist Deathtroopers?
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>>97839664
Depends on the sci fi
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>GURPS Ultra Tech is apparently bad
Is it? I want to put together something like a not-infinity one shot to have high-to-ultra tech firefights against aliens and dastardly intelligence agents. Is the book not good enough?
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>>97839940
Yeah there really isn't an accepted sci-fi "blueprint" like fantasy, things can go all the way from cyberpunk to space opera.
That said, it's Dune. Dune is to sci-fi what Lord of the Rings is to fantasy. It has its fingerprints everywhere but so do others, but they're like the Conans and Elrics and so on.
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>>97839803
So you agree, there is nothing wrong with it then?
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>>97839968
Yeah bro, I love wasting my time.
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>>97839724
Where did you hear that? The only major quirk I can think of is that FTL involves week long jumps of 1-6 parsecs, with no FTL signals. I guess the fuel consumption also restricts the kind of ships you can make.
There's a lot of setting specific stuff, but you don't have to use it, and IMTU (In My Traveller Universe) is common enough in the community to suggest that a lot of peopel don't.
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>>97840009
I read it on forums for traveller gamers. That might have been an older edition. I downloaded the quick start rules that are free, and it seems like a system that wouldn’t need much tweaking to work.
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>>97839664
I am running one with Savage Worlds and the science fiction companion. This one is just starting but I have ran others with it.
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>>97839803
Only in the original. That's not something that can happen in the mongoose versions
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>>97839724
Try Cepheus Engine if you want to separate the setting from the game completely, it’s essentially genericized Mongoose Traveller 1E. Other than that, you can just tweak or ignore whatever piece of setting lore you don’t like, and leave the big picture stuff as background info that’s irrelevant to most of the campaign.
>>97839803
That’s only the default in Classic Traveller, they introduced an alternative rule where you get ejected from the career following a mishap or injury, and later editions use that as the default.
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>>97839664
Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader --i.e. 1e. It is actually a skirmish wargame-rpg hybrid and requires a GM.
If you're looking for a military sf type of game, it comes with a cool setting, and cool tables which is the sweet spot between strict setting and GM homebrew.
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>>97839955
Nah it works fine for Infinity style
But you do have to tell your players what equipment they are allowed
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>>97840865
I can live with that.
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>>97839664
Dark heresy and the star wars one are both pretty good. Nothing paizo makes is good but starfinder exists. Any of them can be generic if you file the serial numbers off.
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>>97841029
>starfinder
How is it actually? I don't imagine the formula translating well to scifi, but that might be me.
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>>97840915
The catch is that there's a *lot* of equipment
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>>97841137
Seeing as it's supposed to be a oneshot, I can partly pregen character equipment to keep things in line. If they like the premise and want to play it again I can always brief them about the tech level I guess.



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