Petty Edition>Previous>>97840176>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>5e Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>VtM to VtR fan translation guidehttps://mega.nz/folder/LhYTUD7b#cRDFTcMXSB_2TjD7eJoE5Q>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionWhat was the pettiest thing you have done to annoy another person or vice versa in your chronicle?
>Petty EditionOf what, OP? :)
>>97862211>Fucked it upSend OP to the soulforges IMMEDIATELY
>>97862211>insert gangrel picture>shit the bedWhat did OP mean by this?
Shit like this is why the prince kicked all the Gangrels out of the city
>>97862439And here comes the petty.
>>97862621It means Im sleep deprived. Was tempted to say it was 'just as planned' but Im compulsively honest when Im tired.
>nosferats fuck up>gangrel fuck upTime to give the intertubes management to the Tremere.
>>97862679If that came across as petty then get off the internet.
>>97862211>What was the pettiest thing you have done to annoy another person or vice versa in your chronicle?I had to somehow conjure up a Settite that "owed a favour" to the local Sheriff so he could rip out the heart of my Toreador player, because he was coking up whores and then fucking them with Celerity and intentionally spreading STDs everywhere and I didn't want to just sunrise him (not yet). He did end up switching to Power and Inner Voice, so it happened anyway several sessions later. Welp.
>>97862823>fucking them with Celerity
>>97862823>fucking them with CelerityAnd leaving a trail of friction burn cases in his wake?
>>97862823Motherfucker thinks he's the fucking Flash.
>>97862911to be fair he had like Celerity 2 so not friction burn territory, but imagine a whore high af on cocaine getting fingered at 3x speed as foreplay I thought it was hilariousnot the STD-spreading part thoughhe did it out of spite so he could trick the Gangrel player to feed from the diseased whores
>>9786Found out a rival Ventrue had a garlic allergy as part of an obscure curse on his bloodline. So I summoned him for a peace summit in a Korean eatery.
Which Legion do you guys think you’re realistically going to be inducted to when you shed this mortal coil? And don’t say the Legion of Paupers or the Legion of Fate, because A)You literally can’t plan for that and B)You are not “built different”.As for me, I’m pretty sure I’m going to drink my way into the Skeletal Legion.
>>97863310Judging by my family history I'm probably going to die of cancer, so the Skeletal Legion.
>>97863310Either Grim or Silent.
>>97863310Family history says either Iron or Grim. if you don't die for some dumb fool fight, you live til your 90s
>>97862211It's time we punish our designated baker, any ideas?
>>97863386>any ideas?You could do it yourself.
>>97863386Rape.
>>97863386Forced femboy training course.
>>97863386Send him to the Tax Man's dimension
>>97863421But Im not cute enough to be a femboy. Im also too old.
>>97863310I am in fact "built different," until my shadow decides I'm not
>>97863673Metamorphosis/Life Sphere/VicissitudeIt's ok we can make it happen anon
>>97862211The Brood had the best fucking intro of any stable, change my mind (you won't)
>>97863803>W5 writers had professed a lot of hatred for WtADo we have any links for this? It's certainly the impression I got from W5 it almost felt like deliberate sabotage. It would be nice to be vindicated.
>>97865127Again, I don't think what you were talking to was human. It was damn obvious they were tourists at the very least.
>>97865382The might have just been VtM purists or Bloodline fans. They tend to be unwilling to view WoD as anything other than a vampire game and Paradox have really catered the setting to them during their custodianship of WoD.
>>97865401I sincerely doubt that.
>>97863386Force him to withstand a hermetic's rant about the tremere
>>97863673Don't worry. We have vicissitude.Here, roll for your new hair and eye colour:https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Random_Hair_and_Eye_Color_(DnD_Other)
This thread feels so hidden that I'm starting to agree with the bakeslave punishment Thank you for baking though, I still appreciate you >>97865366There were interview lines and some quotes in the books themselves about it but a lot of that was posted back in the old Werewolf threads late last year, I remember one post had a quote from a writer or maybe a forum post about how he hated lore grugs>>97865382>>97865401Probably secondaries I think, I genuinely don't think there's any real VtM fans who want WtA to be VtM but furry. There's a legitimate argument that maybe it could have pulled better from folklore instead of putting in the druidic stuff but then again a fair amount of this was inspired by Anne Rice right? I have to admit I find it somewhat ironic that people dislike old Werewolf for being gross and weird but conveniently avert their eyes from old Vampire being gross and weird too, but it is what it is. I suppose they have a certain propensity towards games and themes more archetypal of the radical left like turning into an authoritarian big titty lizard fiend and enslaving the normies, but what do I know? Feel free to ignore the schizo last sentence, was mainly a joke
Rolled 59, 2 = 61 (2d100)>>97865646Ugh. Fine.
>>97865730Beach blonde or aqua hairYellow eyesI am actually fine with this.
>>97865401>and Paradox have really catered the setting to them during their custodianship of WoD.As a VtM purist, no, no they have not. V5 pushes to the margins the best parts of the setting, relies on very unwieldy metaplot surpassing even the worst of Revised, and engages in more retconning than one might think on the surface. Bloodlines has fun with the setting, V5 is a no fun allowed version of the setting. If WoD5 caters to anyone, it's weird european larpers.
>>97865738>yellow eye blondeSeibah?
>>97863310Which is the one for either utterly fatebound fuckups or suicides
>>97865750More like Miquella
>>97865811>suicidesWelcome to the silent legion.
>>97863386Force him to withstand a tremere's rant about the tremere
Bros, he's so cool. So far I'm going to have Sullivan Dane stalk the PCs, call them on the phone pretending to be a wrong number, send them pizzas they didn't order to see how the PCs react, and test supposed weaknesses like garlic and UV lights on them. When the trial for the Masquerade Breaker the PCs are supposed to bring in begins, he'll set the mansion ablaze and snipe from afar. Any more ideas? I'm having him pretend to be a hobo with a violin a couple blocks away from where he'll be studying the PCs.
>outed myself as a filthy phoneposterFugggggggg
>>97865896Just bear in mind that humans are squishy as hell. Overplan like hell, I recall one Anon saying he used Sullivan Dane, made a small mistake, and it ended with the PCs gunning him down.
>>97865816Whatabout "bulit different" to be divinely blessed to be a fuckup no matter what ?
>>97865896Have him impersonate and try and steal of one the PCs old identity/life.
>>97865659>I have to admit I find it somewhat ironic that people dislike old Werewolf for being gross and weird but conveniently avert their eyes from old Vampire being gross and weird too, but it is what it isVampires magically coercing people into being the sex slave blood dolls is a part of the traditional folklore pop culture vampire fantasy.Werewolves fucking wolves and setting up arranged marriages with humans for the purpose of a eugenicist breeding program is fucking weird with no basis in any folklore, pop culture or tradition.
>>97866109>with no basis in any folklore, pop culture or tradition.It's basis is in necessity. It's necessary to ensure there are enough warriors of Gaia to fight and win the war. And it's supposed to feel like it clashes with their spiritual side as a result. Everyone that comes to the "eugenics, eww" conclusion is coming to the right conclusion. But at the same time everyone that comes to the "eugenics, eww, it needs to go" conclusion and saying it should be removed because it makes them uncomfortable or has "no basis" for existing has zero grasp of the nuance.
Reposting my question from the last thread (it's mostly for the VtM to VtR2e conversion anon):VtR2 Celerity says"however, the vampire is still limited to one instant action. She cannot use Celerity to make two attacks, or an attack followed by another instant action. Likewise she cannot move further in a single turn than her Speed would allow". Which I guess means the vampire isn't taking an extra action, just acting out of turn? If they already took an instant action that turn, they can't use the interrupt, right?Meanwhile, the Conversion has"-Interrupt an action with your own. This could be a counter-attack against an attacking enemy, a dodge, a discipline use (keep in mind blood per turn limits), basically anything that takes an Instant action. You may not use the same action multiple times in a round, and may only use this power a number of times equal to your celerity per turn, even if your blood potency permits it."Being "per turn" instead of "per scene" means you ARE getting extra actions, I take it. However, what does "You may not use the same action multiple times in a round" mean?Is it referring to the action I'm interrupting, e.g. when Crook A attacks me, I can only do one interrupt action and not threeOr does it mean the action I've taken, e.g. if I've already attacked this turn, and Crook A attacks me, I can't use my interrupt to attack again, only to dodge, move, use a discipline etc.Similarly, in either case, does my interrupt HAVE to be related to the character who was acting, or can I interrupt Crook B's attack on the other side of the room by attacking Crook A?Examples would really help.
>>97866134>It's basis is in necessity.That necessity has no basis in folklore, pop culture or tradition. It's weird bullshit made up by the writers for werewolves which aren't anything like folklore or pop culture werewolves.
>>97866109>>97866142The biggest problem in the original design for werewolf is that werewolves are no real codified folklore whereas Vampires have far more. White wolf pretty much had to make their own wholesale. Then also come up with a game loop which was more than just you become an uncontrollable monster every month.
>>97866149>Then also come up with a game loop which was more than just you become an uncontrollable monster every month.This would have been much more compelling. Having to manage an ordinary life and struggle to maintain some sort of normalcy, or search for a cure to lycanthropy, or for an adequate target deserving of your rage, before you pop and go full rampaging wolfman when the full moon rises. It'd be all about preparing for the full moon and dealing with the aftermath of the full moon.
>>97862211I swear to god I didn't remember he existed when I decided to make my next character a Gangrel that was a wrestler in the 19th century
>>97866142Werewolves have some of the highest mortality rates of all the splats and their dwindling numbers IS part of their plight. Repeating your assertion that their methods of refilling the ranks aren't based on your arbitrary requirements is pointless and changes nothing.
>>97866232Again, no basis in folklore or pop culture. No one cares about White Wolf's headcanon.
>>97866173I think it would have been a very hard sell to RPG groups of playing a disempowered person who sucks and who main antagonist is themselves. See Wraith, and wraith had a ton of cool world building. There would be very little world building with that scenario - no content to actually sell books and maintain interest in the game/setting. Keeping a game like that going long term would be very hard too I have difficulty seeing how you could maintain interest past loop 3 or 4. Especially since if you have told that story once would you really want to play an almost identical story again?
>>97866273That's like saying that Vampire isn't playable for more than one game.
>>97866279Vampire is about a bit more that how to mitigate the gigantic fuckup that will/did happen next/last month. If vampire had purely been a game of how to get fed while also you suck you would be right. V5 pushed that angle and the consensus here is that was a mistake.
>>97866252>the literal source material of the franchise is "headcanon"What a fascinating bit of mental gymnastics. Demoting thirty years of published, established world-building to the level of fan-theory just because you don't like it. Truly fascinating.By that logic, anything in ANY book, from the stats of Crinos form to the existence of the Umbra, is just "headcanon" until a modern developer decides to keep it. Must be nice to simply dismiss any aspect of reality that doesn't suit your tastes and insist that dismissal sticks.Why exactly are you larping as one of the new writers?
>>97866368>just because you don't like itBecause it has no basis in pop culture or folk lore. Ask anyone unfamiliar with White Wolf what a werewolf is and what a werewolf does and they will not describe anything that remotely sounds like Werewolf the Apocalypse.
>>97866387Can I ask if you genuinely want a game that just regurgitates pop culture? Outside of WoD just any game at all that would do that? The original VtM can pretty much all be described as headcannon after all. It really helped shift the modern interpretation of what vampires are like and what they do.
>>97865896Do your players have ghouls? He should be stalking them by day and their masters by night. Hunters (good ones) are all about making sure they have every advantage they can get once they jump you. Dane should know that stuff like garlic doesn't work since he's been at it for a while, he should focus on weaknesses like addiction or how much your identity means to you. Make sure you read the rules on true faith if you want him to be a bit more dangerous on his own.
>>97866387There is a single precedent with the benandanti's bullshit but everything else about the Werewolves is just some bullshit like "here's big dog or guy who becomes big dog, does fuck all of relevance and gets killed"
>>97866420Vampire the Masquerade is infinitely more connected with and inspired by folklore and pop culture than any Wieckslop splat.
>>97866420The problem people who bitch about werewolf having all the weird shit it does is how much of a non issue is to butcher it into el generico werewolf depiction.Just skip the bullshit and write a game where you are diet Sabbath or whatever the hell.
>people falling for bait Guys, please stop. It's not about your time, some of you probably like arguing with our resident retards, it's about not giving him that dopamine rush when he sees a shitload of (You)s.
