>TQ
Why shouldn't it be?
Warhammer 40k is so over the top that any "realism" conveyed by live action will most likely not work.
Imagine the size of the renderfarms if those are still used for it all though.

>>97863174
>>97863161
I'll also add that I will happily cite specific sources for any claim I gave in this thread (or I guess now the prior thread) or the threads I linked if you're skeptical, but you need to actually read what I posted instead of just dismissing information that's different from your preconceived notions about the topic

You're not gonna find somebody more willing to be patient and to answer questions on Mesoamerican shit then me, so whatever I have to do to prove to you i'm not talking out my ass and that I know what I'm talking about, tell me and I'll do it.

>>97863186
Fuck off, you autistic twat. Leave your apologism for filthy savages in the last thread.

why do you retards care this much

>>97863186
This is the good kind of autism.

>>97863186
do you regularly post here, or do you have some weird telepathic ability where you can sense someone brought up aztecs? if its the former, I wonder what other posters have some historical autistic fixation they’re just waiting to dump on.

I like orks :D

I am indifferent to orks :|

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>>97863191
nta but he's right

>>97863186
I thought the Spanish accounts of a Temple dedicated did involve tens of thousands of executions within a year. Is the archeological evidence not in favor of that?

>>97863186
Go on ahead and give me a list of books or media to read up on this stuff myself. I know an issue with meso American history is that it’s usually unreliable information because of the whole one sided views of the topic

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>>97863178
While it's not offically confirmed, it's most likely that Cavil's show is the previously-announced live-action Eisenhorn show and that's a good place to start for the normalfag audience. And good for the budget. Attempting to do a lot of CGI that would be required of huge battles or a full series in CGI would drain too many resources and leave things looking like that awful old Ultramarines movie.
With Eisenhorn, you have what is essentially a space detective who can go from planet to planet with his small retinue to misfits who would be the our primary cast. With this format you can introduce the lore of the universe at large in small, bite-sized pieces without needing a massive info dump.
And, if it needs to save budget they could to a "bottle episode" or two where there's some mechanical mishap or alien loose on their ship and they never need to leave the soundstage where the ship's interior set is.

>>97863211
It is but he's a worthless apologist who tries to pretend all the skeletons and first hand writings of the aztecs don't count.

>>97863186
I’ll admit, its likely I’ll never get around to it, but while you’re here, what are the best books about aztecs? you cited the book by Ross Hassig, but are there any others? Also, does your fixation lead into indian tribes, and do you have any good books on them?

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As I read through the 6-10th edition Imperial Knight codices - Codexes? I think I can safely say that Imperial and Chaos Knights are side by side with Genestealer Cults for being /yourdudes/ armies to the core. Aside from Canis Rex there is no focus on canon and named models, you are given the freedom to paint and customize your miniatures in any and all possible ways and thankfully, there is no expensive, Primarch-style centerpiece that you need to play your army "properly". I forgot how good it feels to not worry about needing a Primarch/Demon Primarch/Calgar/Wolfboss or any other silly and forced character in both fluff and army crafting.

>>97863218
>And, if it needs to save budget they could to a "bottle episode" or two where there's some mechanical mishap or alien loose on their ship and they never need to leave the soundstage where the ship's interior set is.
hell yeah, star trek maxxing.

>>97863205
I dislike your entire existence :(

i dont like orks :(

>>97863218
>And, if it needs to save budget they could to a "bottle episode" or two where there's some mechanical mishap or alien loose on their ship and they never need to leave the soundstage where the ship's interior set is.
Surreal green screen and ship set interior dream/drugged/injured fever dream episode. Or introspection episode as Gregor grows more and more extremist.

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Wealth beyond measure, outlander.

>>97863248
>Surreal green screen and ship set interior dream/drugged/injured fever dream episode
Or a "the Gellar Field flickered" episode.

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It’s time to Tzeentch post
> 97863253

>>97863232
>Imperial Knights
>there is no expensive, Primarch-style centerpiece that you need to play your army "properly"

U avin a giggle mate?

>>97863251
Was that a Darkest Dungeon reference in your words?
Sometimes I look at the eyes of 28mm minis and just want to put black washes in them and call it a day.
But then they'll look like goth eyeliner.

>>97863254
Beautiful work if those are yours, Anon. I was trying to work on my TS warband but mold line removal killed my desire. Fucking GW needs to QA their kits better when you have massive slips to clean up and fix.

>>97863247
FUCK YOU

>>97863178
>TQ
It being animated would be cool, but it would need a hefty budget to sell the setting. I’m still betting that live action is gonna be what they’re going for

My biggest concern with the 40k show is that they’re gonna try to do way too much shit at once. With live action, practical budgetary constraints are gonna push them towards telling a smaller-scale story within the setting, which is what I think the show needs to do

>>97863257
Knights are centerpiece models, but I meant it in you do not need Gorillaman or Lion or Magnus or Morty or the Silent King or any of that shit with the pay to win buffs/rules that GW is trying to force into every army. I can paint each Freeblade to be a unique, OC donut steel who exists in his own fluff bubble if I so want.

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Do you like the blood angels?

>>97863275
They are too gay for me

>>97863218
With The Boys coming to a close pretty soon, I’m guessing that they’re gonna want the 40k show to occupy that same sort of “slot” on their streaming service.

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Yes it is my army. I have had it for a long time now and have beautiful opals I cut and polished based on it to make it have a warp esque appearance or some shit idk. Lol. I have mixed feelings about 2 different color schemes. The blue is older and the tan is more recent work of mine. Granted the thousand sons are very fractured so it’s not unusual for different color schemes warbands to operate together. The tan was supposed to be cult of time and the blue Ahrimans followed.

>>97863291
I wonder if the gore in the 40k show is going to get obnoxious as it was in some of the other Amazon shows. The Boys banks on it way to hard for shock value, I would hope 40k it could be used in a bit more subdued way, but chances are we're going to see a Psyker's head pop for comedic effect.

>>97863293
the thousands sons being extremely drab contrast so well with the weird technicolor daemon. makes it look really alien and horrific.

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>>97863199
I'm on 4chan constantly for general browsing and posting on various boards, but I don't frequent /tg/ specifically aside from to check in to see if there are threads where Mesoamerican info is needed.

>>97863191
Not even the Spanish thought they were savages, see pic. Though I will say in the interest of being particularly intellectual honest that the quotes were specifically selected to stress a point, and you can find other Spanish sources which are less positive

If you want the completely unedited quotes without any cuts or paraphrasing I can post them, in case you're skeptical.

>>97863211
>>97863224
You're probably thinking of the 1487 re-consecration of the Great Temple, depending on the source (and to be clear, both Spanish and Indigenous sources cite these numbers, so it's not just the Spanish exaggerating: The Aztec also exaggerated the numbers, because the scale of sacrifices was a way to show off military power and the consecration was coming after the militarily disastrous reign of Tizoc, so they needed to present a strong image) they say that either ~20,000 or ~80,000 sacrifices happened over a period of 4 days.

There are logistical reasons that's not possible which I can get into if people want, but the actual damning proof that the number of sacrifices for the event weren't that high is the fact that the Huey Tzompantli skull rack built from the event's victims (at least according to Duran) has been excavated, and the rack only holds ~16,000 skulls (plus a few hundred or perhaps thousands more in two adjacent skull towers). There may not have even been 16,000 sacrifices in the re-consecration either, because at least some of the skulls were deposited from earlier or later periods, not just from the consecration

However I freely admit that there's nuances I'm not quite getting into, if you want I can clarify further in a follow up post, but i'm at the character limit

2/?

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>tfw when shit spills over into the next thread

>>97863311
eh, at least the off topic shit is actually interesting this time.

my two model collage entry is turning into a diorama idea. i think i have time to do it, it's still pretty early in the month

>>97863251
My fuckin n'wah.

>>97863291
The Boys has way too much gore for the sake of being edgy. The comic was pretty awful to read. It'd just be dimestore slop if not for Butcher's and Homelander's actors turning in great performances.
If anything, 40k will fill the niche of Fallout with a world with tons of lore that's only hinted at but a small but dedicated cast that we see the big wide world through.

>>97863311
Look, it's not the usual lolcow shit or ritualpost faggotry, this is the best we've gotten in literal weeks.

>>97863311
I'll take this over decalfag posting the exact same insults and images again or something unholy like an ACK meltdown. It's at least interesting to read even if it isn't 40k.

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L shape bro's.....it's over for us in 11th.

>>97863293
Gorgeous stuff Anon. I need to get more gumption and get back to work on my TS. Occult Terminators are incredibly relaxing to build but I am not looking forward to the painting. I'm going for orange as the main color. Might have to break out my airbrush if I do not want to suffer more than normal. The opals you cut really add a very impressive and otherworldly look to the miniatures, goes great with the schemes and basing choices!

>>97863302
>Entire portrait done in Feathework
What the fuck, that's amazing.

>>97863297
They got fallout for their more wacky sci-fi stuff, so I can see them giving the 40k show a bit more of a serious tone to set it apart from the other adult oriented shows on the platform (and any writer who actually knows what they’re doing is gonna realize that 40k’s comedy works best when played completely straight). But we’re definitely gonna be getting some crazy gore given how much that aspect of the boys is loved by audiences. The suits definitely picked up that clips of gory spectacle get shared on social media and are essentially free advertising. I’m fully expecting to see people getting gibbed from bolter fire and everything

>>97863347
I'd be fine with that as long as it's quick and not dwelt upon as you say. For example I'm fully expecting someone at some point to just get eviscerated by a Chainsword in a brutal manner but my preference would be that it serves as the climax of a prolonged fight, as opposed to a bit of theater for when a Space Marine shows up for the first time.

>>97863186
Not interested in Aztec, Nazi or Communist apologetics. This isn’t the place to spew your vile hatred.

>>97863297
>>97863347
I’m betting good money that we’re gonna see an overcharged plasma gun blowing up in someone’s hands

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>>97863335
The Age of the L Shape with circles is over. The time of the L shape with rectangles has come.

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>>97863302
cont:

>>97863215
>>97863228
Me and my friends have a WIP bookchart here but it's pretty unfinished. I also admittedly don't read many generalist overview books, rather I tend to get my info from academic papers in journals and conference presentations or specific book chapters I read when following citations in other sources,

If you had to press me for overview sources, then one of the best I've seen is ironically a paper published by someone at a Mormon institute called "The Cultural Tapestry of Mesoamerica" (https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1519&context=jbms), it's around 20 papers and is a great introduction, aside from not touching on West Mexico, especially the Purepecha, as much as I would have liked. I also can't vouch for other publications from the same source, since a lot of stuff on Mesoamerica by Mormons goes into nonsense /x/ territory.

Beyond that for generalist overviews, i'd defer to what /r/askhistorians's booklist has (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/books/americas/latinamerica#wiki_general), despite being reddit, the Mesoamerican content there is generally very high quality. Really I'd recommend binging posts on Askhistorians in general, a friend of mine compiled a bunch here: https://pastebin.com/Mc881KkN though this was put together many years ago and there's plenty of additional posts now.

If you specify what kind of subtopics interest you it'll be easier for me to give specific suggestions.

>>97863338
Yes, feather mosaics are a favorite subject of mine. I'm already posting the bookchart this post so I can't attach images of more, but see here: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/his/image/1723/18/1723189132251.jpg for some more plus an extended Spanish description of the art form. I have a shit ton of papers and books saved on the topic, so if you want more info let me know, but one of the better places to start is probably "The Art of Featherwork in Mexico".

3/3 for now

>>97863335
>no windows

They really took the sovl outta everything didnt they

>>97863368
But just think of the portability!

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Covid apocalypse board any one ?

>>97863335
I know L shaped terrain is basically a staple of 40k at this point unfortunately.
But is there any effort to make it at least look good or are these examples really what current common terrain look like on average?

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>>97863335
Literally nothing has changed.

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>>97863387
Yea it’s kinda sad. I really miss the days of i place a piece then you place a piece.
My buddies game room was basically open to nature. This was the result .

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Could I run this as an Imperial Knight if I add arms with the appropriate weapons on it?

>>97863396
I’ve seen worse knight proxies.

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Let Chaos idols take this thread!

>>97863335
The age of 2d terrain is upon us.

>>97863232
Kind of why I like the nids. Sure theres some good named monsters, but its real easy to just leave them out and run your own hive/splinter fleet. You dont have to run The Swarmlord in every list.

>>97863396
... I need to turn this into a windmill knight to ally in to my Dawn Coyotes

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I put Chrome on some thousand sons. If it dries good I'll put clear blue, or maybe red, on them.

>>97863414
I forgot to add Nids with GSC, oops. The Herohammer nonsense is exhausting and makes public and LGS games feel like playing a F2P video game against people who spend real money. "You should bring Magnus in your TS!" "You should buy Lion!" "You should get the Silent King and Abaddon and all the named characters!" Fuck that noise. I make my dudes and they might not be giant sculpts that cost a fortune and have a bunch of special rules, but they are mine and get battlefield trophies and have their stories grow with each game they participate in.So tired of this auto-include and meta bullshit.

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>>97863178
LIVE ACTION OR NOTHIG NIGGA

>>97863434
Lead by Chapter Master Sancho?

>>97863442
cringe

>>97863442
What's with peoples obsessive need for things to be live action when animation would be a better medium to be able to show off the scale of 40k.

>>97863449
low iq fags who can't picture an apple in their heads

>>97863449
They see a familiar face they idolize and get the same, strange mentality as Primarchsloppers do. Abnormal and parasocial relationships with celebrities and fictional characters and streamers.

>>97863449
I stopped trying to understand the normie preference for live action over animation. It truly baffles and confuses me that people will cite "It has [Designated Actor]" as a reason for it being better.

>>97863449
>scale of 40k
The scale of 40k is anything from a rogue trader going on adventures to apocalyptic battles that engulf entire systems. The latter would just end up looking like Avenger's End Game-level CGI slop, so they will likely go for a more subdued approach. There is no reason 40k can't be adapted into live action if the story is about an inquisitor or rogue trader. This can be done faithfully with some decent costuming and practical effects.

>>97863439
What product exactly? Thats a pretty nice metalic base, but I cant tell if its clogging details or not, hard to see with the reflections and all.

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Gonna pick this up, any idea's what to run Denji as in a csm army?

>>97863387
Do you not see the narrative they’ve added?

>>97863449
I've been told that watching animated stuff is childish and normies don't want to be perceived as childish

>>97863479
chaos spawn?

it's normalfag

>>97863482
The Dutch.

>>97863487
Maybe, but i'd have to build his base up to be the right size, maybe put a bunch of dead poxwalkers piled up underneath

>>97863387
I asked a few days ago about selling my army. Today’s articles unironically pushed me over the edge. I will photograph my guys for sale tomorrow. I am not looking forward to bagging and labelling all the sprue stuff.

>>97863497
be sure to play one last game and say in lore they were wiped out.

>>97863476
Molotow liquid chrome. Saw some dude say to pool it on for the reflective finish and after letting it set for about an hour now the details are much better.

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>>97863496
what would actually be super sick. Im imagining him like riding on a wave of them. He is even posed for it already, just swapping out that tactical steppy. Im picturing something built up like these forgeworld ripper swarms.

>>97863505
That's a good idea but I am kinda meh on 10th. Maybe I can convince someone in the disc to play 9th.

I was going to go heavy on vehicles/monsters but I think it would more fun to go heavy on infantry for wrecking other peoples' vehicles/monsters

>>97863512
I will be waiting for the 60 minute post then. Ive seen people prime stuff that way too with jesso, where when it dries it shrinks and pulls itself taught.

>>97863521
Where you at?

>>97863528
Alberta.

>>97863409
True Line of sight is still a thing, you still need to have something obstructing your dudes.

Anyone have a STL for the shoulder weapon mount on a Wraithlord?

>>97863530
Damn. Washington here.

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>>97863442
Why did so much of the 40k collective practically worship Cavil when he started making PR pics of him liking Warhammer?

I always thought it was more negative to public perception of 40k fans because a big celeb who isn't an ugly ogre hoisted as the representative of it kind of says he is the exception that proves the negative perceptions to be correct.

What realm of chaos do the night lords even fall under?

>>97863573
they're just chilling in the eye of terror and realspace.

>>97863482
I feel like at a certain point you gotta take ownership of how your games go. Giving players templates with rules and leaving it up to the players to determine how that terrain is represented on the table is a perfectly fine way of doing things.

>>97863573
As a Legion they’re shattered as far as I know, so they can be whatever. Though in the books and narratives, they’re largely represented as Undivided.

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>>97863573
Up to you. Night Lords are a fractured and broken legion split into hundreds of different mercenary companies, warbands and cults. In desperation or revenge they might drift towards a chaos god.
You could flavour them however you'd like:
>Slaanesh, because they truly relish in the fear they create
>Khorne, after they became addicted to the carnage they cause seeding fear
>Tzeentch, due to he visionary flaw of their geneseed
I don't know about Nurgle. Maybe because they're always wearing rotting skins and bodies?

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>97863604
After exodites.

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>>97863567
No normie has the energy to look at a fanbase close enough to realize that someone like Cavill's the exception to the rule. He was always going to be good for the perception of 40k simply because of social inertia.

>>97863573
What do you mean? They're shattered into dozens or hundreds of warbands. Many in realspace and don't touch chaos at all, some in whatever god's realm you want. They're the most /yourdudes/ chaos legion.

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40kg bros what project are you currently working on or recently completed? im currently assembling my pile of shame + painting it. picrel, some former ultra intersessors that im turning into dark angels......wbu?

>>97863554
"Obscuring terrain areas cannot be seen entirely through,"
Nope, can't see through the flat rectangles.

>>97863613
Gosh, I wonder if there was something you could do to make it actually obscuring in instances where it applies

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I'm glad to see GW still can't make terrain rules to save a fucking life

So how much xenos weaponry is completely safe for humans to use without adverse effects? I want some stuff for my renegade warband

>>97863643
Part of the Deathwatch’s gimmick is using sanctioned Xenos weaponry, maybe take a closer look at how they do things.

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>>97863524
So far it looks like its drying well. Going to wait a good while longer before I apply some colors but so far this stuff seems to be working well.

>>97863648
Not gonna lie when I saw the first photos I'd thought you'd completely fucked the details on their pauldrons but it looks like it's tightening up a lot as it dries.

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The closest I'd ever come to rage quitting a match was when a guy, who had waited to see my army to decide whether to bring the Lion or Canis Rex, who complained about me taking two Legends units, brought up plunging fire and said his guns were now AP-2 because he was a couple of inches off the table height and he looked me dead in the eye like he expected me to want to play with such a retarded rule. Glad to see such idiocy is still in full swing like James has to keep being a fucking retard by contract.

>>97863600
>talos vs 3 chaos gods
>temptation and whatever
>talso and nurgle
>fatman goes 'eh, we're not really meant for each other but I have to be here because everyone else was doing it'
was a funny bit.
Could do a warband plauged with nostalgia for the old nostroman ways and they just make everyone and everything dead to keep the illusion shambling along.

>>97863665
SO you wanted to rage quit a game because you were too stupid to know the rules?
And you think you're going to get sympathy here, bitching about sucking at the game?
lol
lmao

>>97863387
>I love getting 1/3 of the board to deploy my army that is too big because my models are too cheap pointwise so GW make me buy more models to fill out the oversized deployment area.
Shame they wont go back to smaller armies and fuck off all the big shit that's been ruining the game since 5th

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>>97863682
We can only hope that 11th crashes and burns and they are forced to create a 40k Classic based on 4th edition rules.

>>97863682
Literally nothing is stopping you from playing smaller, 1,000 point casual games.
Aside from your inability to communicate with other humans in a way that they ever want to interact with you.

>>97863686
There never was a good edition of 40k.
And never will be.
And I will be proven right.
As much as I want to be wrong.

>>97863689
NTA but 1000 point 10th edition games still suck ass because it's 10th edition

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gib space lizards

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>>97863691
4th with 3rd edition codex's is actually very very good. Problem is 80% of the playerbase now is post 7th zoomies who don't even know how good 40k used to be. Plato's allegory of the cave and all that.

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>>97863611

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>>97863691
7th was good before they intentionally ruined it to make way for 8th edition and I'll die on that hill.

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>>97863387
but there are L's everywhere

>>97863701
finally a missile launcher with a decent ammo supply

>>97863702
7th had good ideas but overall, the state of eldar in that, especially Soulburst and the allies matrix, made the entire edition unsalvagable dogshit even before Formations got out of hand.

>>97863611
I've got my second land fortress sitting on my porch drying from a spray prime right now. It's still a little too cold to be using a rattlecan where I'm at right now but I really don't wanna break out the airbrush, prime it white, and then hit it again with a metallic layer since white is the only airbrush primer I have when I have a can of rustoleum silver ready to go. Not really worth posting a picture of it at the moment.

>>97863705
>but there are L's everywhere
Including the guy posting!

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>>97863701
You know, I thought you were just showing off the scale of the launcher to a Rhino, not actually working on making it a thing.

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>>97863709
>the state of eldar in that
Hardly a unique problem, especially considering what came after.

>>97863702
Yeah, so good it unironically nearly killed GW.

>Want to take a group shot of my army.
>Everything painted and based.
>Except one unit. which is only grey.

AAH I have to paint it, but I am busy writing for a deadline.

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>>97863665
He tried to warn you

>>97863719
kek
>>97863717
that was a separate issue. It was good enough that it provided for a secondary game to last for years after 8th.

>>97863717
Kirby being a retard is what nearly killed GW, not 7th edition. You gamer types being completely ignorant of the actual financial aspects of the business is super cringe. The only reason GW even made it to 7th edition 40k was thanks to the LOTR game MESBG. And it's not the rules that caused the 40k blowup from 9th onwards.

>>97863611
I was a bit bumbed out when i realised i missed the retilation cadre rule only affecting battlesuits, but with multi-detachments coming back i'm planning on getting my breachers ready to run in a montka detachment.

>>97863731
>90% of collectors play less than 4 games a year

yeah i don't think teh rules are that important to how well the product sells

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Armies by popularity

Space Wolves suck btw

It is remarkable how convoluted the devs are making 40k.
Unit special rule paragraphs, detachment rule paragraphs and stratagems, army rule paragraphs, ridiculous predefined mission and terrain layouts (because they can’t figure out how to actually balance shooting and vehicles so they have to block firing lanes) obnoxious and absolutely soulless secondary mission objectives (score bonus VP for arbitrarily moving a unit to a quadrant of the board?) with a scoring system that requires so much extra bookkeeping to track scores out of 100 and such shit rules for scoring that your entire army can be fucking killed to the last man and you can still win the game with a big lead.
Now 11th wants to double down with even more detachment rules and a convoluted mission structure based on your MTG color archetype matchups that predefined your mission objectives and essentially automate the gameplay.
Is it so hard to just have more open ended missions and terrain so players can just fucking kill each other and score missions? The game is increasingly playing like a combination of a card game and a spreadsheet.

>>97863748
Genestealer Cults being that low is evidence that the masses have no taste.

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>>97863611
Grinding away at my Apothecary

>>97863750
What blows my mind is that the masses eat it up. They love the slop.

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>>97863754
>dead furry
i kneel

>>97863754
>I'm here to collect geneseed.
>Yours.
I love angry apothecaries.

>>97863754
How’s he supposed to do battle surgery with his wrists all chained up like that?

>>97863750
>he game is increasingly playing like a combination of a card game and a spreadsheet.
Yes that's intentional

>>97863750
I just want to enjoy 40k again. I haven't for probably 5 years now.

>>97863753
To be fair they are an absolute bitch for new players to paint, collect and play. I almost wanna start them myself now that I'm more experienced with the hobby but I'm doing traitor guard as my third army instead.

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>>97863748

Imperial Fists primaris intercessors

Imperial Fists are primarily intersex

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>>97863748
agents stay winning

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What's the worst still technically-current model?

>>97863754
Your models are so Kino B. I just can;t stand it! jk, well done anon!

>>97863813
Catachans are bad but they're old. Wulfen are new are they're even uglier. Space Wolves looked at the Eightbound that no one likes and thought "we can be WAY uglier than that!"

>>97863825
but wulfen are older than eightbound?

>>97863831
I thought they were newer. I don't pay attention to when space wolves models are released bruh

>>97863833
Bruh, the plastic wulfen kit is a decade old it's a bit hard to miss them for that long since they've been a meme since release.

>>97863837
I've only been in this hobby for like 5 years

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>>97863843
Maximum retardo nigguh

>>97863843
don't do this to me man...

>>97863849
fuck off mutant.

>>97863849
wat
>>97863851
wat

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>>97863855
>wat
I stuggle to accept that the PS2 is a retro console, being reminded that people who started this hobby 5 years ago started in 9th will always fuck me up.

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>>97863813
You now remember the codex and the plethora of rules it gave you for jungle terrain and simulating fighting on a death world.

>>97863854
Good god stop fucking responding to me you psychotic freak

>>97863873
Fuck off mutant.

>>97863748
considering Sisters, Grey Knights, Deathwatch, and Agents are this low, i say just squat them all into a Inquisition faction
also Sisters are the biggest frauds in the game, everyone pretends they're iconic but no gives a shit about them

>>97863875
OH dude, you are so weird...stalker vibes

I think the Tactical Squad should come back as a modification of the Deathwatch Kill Team datasheets. I say modification, but largely I just mean the ability to take it in other Space Marine armies. I feel like it’d be an easy way to reflect the tactical flexibility of seasoned Space Marines without going full Veteran yet.

>>97863833
>Proudly voices opinion on shit he knows nothing about
Peak 4chan right here

>>97863883
Tactical marines should come back because turning marines into aspect warriors was incredibly fucking stupid

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>>97863876
That's not fair to Sisters, they're as popular as the other three combined.

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>Mike Brooks next book is about the Tomb Kings

>>97863894
I can't wait to read about the first genderfluid black skeleton in warhammer history.

>>97863898
>Black
I think you meant to say Khemri American

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>>97863754
Did the freehand before bed. Just a little bit left now.

>>97863876
I think it’s one of those cases where the rules scare people off
>”Hey I wanna play the army of Space Nuns in Power armor, should I start my collection with a basic box of the Space Nuns in Power Armor?”
>”No that’s actually very unoptimal and they kind of suck too, buy the baby carriers instead,”
Regular Space Marine Intercessors can be a little cracked for what they are, but it does mean there’s no chance of getting burned for starting your Space Marine collection with the most basic troop box you can buy.

>>97863914
By baby carrier, you mean rhinos?

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>>97863907
Khemrians are brown but somehow there will be a negro skeleton who was black while he was alive. Mark my words (Arkhan wasn't black he just got the nickname " The Black " because his teeth were stained black from betel nut which he was addicted to when he was alive )

>>97863913
Nice, i like what you did with the shield thingy

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>>97863919
>he doesn't know

>>97863913
holy shit it looks incredible, nice job man.

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Why do we never see edgy chaos stuff modeled in 40k like we do see sometimes in other GW game systems?

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I want to get into 40k, but i fucking hate the primaris aesthetic with all the tacticool and antigrav bullshit. Is there any way i can field bunch of beaky boys with land raiders and predators nowadays? I would like an army that looks good, but is also playable in tournaments.

>>97863933
40K is GW’s most marketable property, and thus needs to avoid the weird stuff. Best you can get is some bondage space elves who never show up anymore.

>>97863933
Because we here at /40kg/ are a more sophisticated and evolved crowd of individuals. Do we enjoy such excessive violence? Yes, but we also like to keep a place of upper echelon decorum where we can come and converse with one another in peace.

>>97863894
>wot if Settra woz gay?

>>97863948
Settra can't be gay because his first act as king was to sacrifice all his children to the Khemrian Gods to gain their favour before successfully restoring the kingdom.

>>97863941
You check out Horus Heresy instead of you want the Rogue Trader aesthetic.

>>97863941
Unironically get into HH. It's also a far far better game than 10th edition 40k. The only drawback is the lack of xenos but if you don't care then there is no reason for you to play 40k over HH.

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>>97863933
>asking this when you know full well this corporate world globally promotes violence at the near complete exclusion of sex
Rhetorical question, much?

>>97863914
That is part of it. SoB will never rank highly in competitive popularity because.
1) They are expensive and time consuming to paint.
2) Even when they're capable of ranking highly in tournaments, they still require the highest level competitive autist to do so, so most tournament-focused players will pick an easier army to place with.
3) Their rules do not fulfil their "army fantasy" well so they're not really fun for casual players either.
This puts SoB as a just paint and collect army for most people.

>>97863956
NBR

>>97863974
but the post you are replying to only shows violence not sex, unless I guess nudity = sex for you?

>>97863866
The ps4 and soon 5 are retro man.

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i know this is completely subjective to your local experience but im wondering really how competitive is your local RTT? I’m considering signing up for my lfgs last tourney for 10th. I’m ok with losing every game i just don’t want to get tabled round 2 by people way out of my league. I’ve been playing for a year now pretty often.

>>97863978
?

>>97863396
I was planning to run one as a baneblade variant for Vostroyan guard but new plunging rule might actually make knight make more sense, good idea

>>97863701
>Holy omnissiah save this machine's suspension system, for I cannot

>>97863933
The marine boys have become so jaded that they've ascended above plebeian outrages like hanging women upside down and dwell in the cerebral realm of abstract perversions, like wearing pink and leopard print.

>>97863927
Not having the dangly legs hanging off the front does a lot for this

>>97863933
How quickly we forget the Night Lords Rhino festooned with giant infant corpses on the tracks.

>>97863985
>heh, I see you think rape goats carting around nude women implies sex
>you must be a real big pervert, bucko boy
Incredibly tiresome and dull. Go rub yourself down with a whetstone.

>>97863933
Indecent, that shield is indecent.

>>97864018
He might be European, so he may not understand that nudity does actually imply sex in this instance

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I just bought this but have yet to read it. Is it any good, and should I buy the prequel called Sacred Hate?

>>97864025
>boughted
>haven't readed
>asking to buyed more stuff
brother..?

>>97864025
How about you stop consooming and read what you purchased first

>>97864039
Kino. Not a fan of the wolf head on the knights but as a whole the army looks very cool and well painted.

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>>97864032
I'm retarded

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>>97864039
wtf anon its a blue board, at least spoiler when you post blatant gore

>>97863967
>>97863973
HH is pretty cool but i live in a shithole of a country, there are like 4 WH stores in total, everyone plays regular 40k. Is it possible to use HH models for Chaos army if i use current edition weapon loadouts and just claim they were chilling in warp n shit?

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>>97864039
aye brother, I shall awoo with yon faggot wolve models that aye also possessed

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Why are there no fat guardsmen?

>>97864045
>>97864049
Samefag

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>>97864093
Nigga is that a pride flag?

If I were to make a Word Bearer army, would I need to be using a bunch of cultist and traitor guardsmen models?

>>97864154
They are just basic CSM so play them however you like.

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>>97864120
Why are there no fat guardsmen anymore*

>>97864154
>need
No but it would be thematic and thus based

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>>97863439
>>97863512
>Molotow liquid chrome
So someone ITT finally did it eh
https://illuminatorhobby.wordpress.com/2018/03/30/the-knights-resplendent-an-experiment-with-chrome/
>Another very important note: keep your grubby mits off the model! While it’s drying, the finish is incredibly fragile and even after it has dried, it remains easy to damage. Simply touching the model (leaving trace body oils) will result in a dulled shine, closer to Games Workshop’s brightest silvers rather than a true chrome. As such, I don’t think I’ll ever risk gaming with these fellows, or extending the project into a full army (because of cost restrictions as well).
Also you can't paint over it at all.

>>97863699
I've taken too many BA Rhino Rushes to have fond memories of that.

>X edition is great if you don't play the broken lists
Anons will say this without a hint of irony.

>>97863748
The only reason Nids and Necrons are that high is because they were 9th/10th starter.

Watch Orks skyrocket to #2 at the end of the year.

I want to start a CSM army, but I don't like demons, corruption, or chaos. Is it OK if I just paint loyalist marines and use the CSM rules?

>>97864197
>wants to run CHAOS space marines
>doesn't like CHAOS
nigger, just play space marines

>>97864202
but CSM is very popular on social media right now and I don't want to be left out.

>>97864204
But why play an army that you don't like the core conecpt of?

>>97864188
>the only reason Nids and Necrons are that high is because they [received a ton of new kits and were heavily advertised while being in discount boxes]
>watch [the same thing happen to Orks]
It applies to Death Guard at #4 as well.

>>97864197
This used to be more permissible when Alpha Legion pretending to be loyalists was more of thing but nowadays with rules being what they are, this is a harder sell when you have ornery shitheels chasing WYSIWYG in pickup games. So you can try to convince people but more often than not you likely won’t succeed

>>97864206
Anon, he probably likes the renegade concept but is too lazy to shave off the insignias. The only way he can be lazier at this point is if he somehow had unfinished Hellblasters.

>>97864212
>This used to be more permissible when Alpha Legion pretending to be loyalists was more of thing
The novelty of this idea wore off pretty quickly even back then since the main people that did it were faggots.

>>97864217
Yeah, with the new red corsairs rules it would be a good opportunity to run more rengade styled marines, but when he said paint loyalist marines ran as csm I just saw it as him wanting an excuse to double dip armies without any effort being put into modeling.

>>97864221
Yeah it’s pathetic. I’m assuming someone saw the Defiler data sheet and thought it would be real funny to try and meta chase. Like dude just play loyalists or buy the CSM kits if you’re not gonna put the work in.

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Blue terrain is certainly going to be impassable, but the yellow pieces are probably difficult terrain? Meaning infantry can run over it at a penalty while vehicles can just run over it. I doubt there will be difficult terrain tests but it would be cool.

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>>97863941
My entire army is based on RT styles and I only use 30k models to get those designs. It's definitely possible right now.

>>97863941
You want diaper marines instead?

>>97863883
>>97863888
It can still have a place if GW cared. In 30k you have three squads. Tacticals that can only take boltguns and are more like current intercessors, veteran tacticals that can take a bunch of weapons and are more like 40k tacticals and seekers, who get a dedicated drop pod, special issue ammo and combis, making them very close to 40k sternguard.

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2026, I am forgotten...

>>97864276
Why is he wearing a diaper and no shoes

>>97864276
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>97864276
I used to think this was acceptable design, then I quit drugs and went clean.

>>97864276
Cut off the toes to get an elephant foot look.
Paint the flesh a daemon colour rather than swollen white guy skintone.
This fixes the model.

>>97864253
If the vision works the way it does now, melee armies are gonna be eating good. So much shit to hide behind.

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>>97863178
>TQ
Yeah, as much as I'd like it to be all practical effects and real actors I think 3D animation is probably the way to go. Otherwise we'll never see it be released.

Pic unrelated, just a cool duck that came up to me during my lunch break. I think I'll name him Beauregard.

>>97864333
Trips for duck.

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Why do they refuse to fix it?

>>97864351
Fixing it would mean admitting they made a mistake in the first place.

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>>97864351
Because the feelings it causes in you bring them great pleasure.

>>97864359
This looks AI generated.

>really like Knights visually
>have easily 2500+ points of Knights
>can never play them because it's a 2 player game and they're miserable to play against
At least I can show them off by allying them to my other armies.

>>97864362
Everything looks AI generated when you've convinced yourself it will always be possible to tell the difference

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The empire will really take anyone these days

>>97864365
If you have a local group just put ask if anyones up for a game against knights.

>>97864362
Like the bases?

>>97864351
They probably paid like 500 million pounds for that logo

>>97864377
>Pajeet thinks AI is going to ever reach that point
The bubble is already popping, enjoy being stuck back in a call center begging Microsoft to give you a job with your worthless AI engineering degree next year mohindur

>>97864362
I can see why you think that, but I will also tell you you're low intelligence for thinking the reasons you think that are valid reasons.

>>97864362
That art is at least 10 years old, anon.

>>97864409
those bases were touched up with AI doe

>>97864351
this fucking pisses me off, what kind of absolute mongoloid double nigger approved this shit???

>>97864365
Play them as gargants in Sigmar. It's a better game anyway because no strength or toughness and damage works both ways.

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>>97864039

Furrbros, what 3 paints would you use on a space wolves vehicle? Im trying to figure out a palette for an airbrush

>>97864093
this would explain the women behaviour

>>97863261
>Was that a Darkest Dungeon reference in your words?
jesus fucking christ anon

>>97864329
Every area is obscuring, yeah.

>>97863261
N'wah

>>97864045
I feel like if he wasn't such an easily provoked chrischan type retard his space wolves would be beloved. Alas.

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>>97864546
>>97864550
I'm sorry lads.
In my defence the "wealth beyond measure" reminded me of DD.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyy8wEV7zDI
It may have been a reference to the Elder Scrolls game quote of wealth beyond measure.

I do think Wayne June would make a good narrator for Warhammer 40k universe stuff.
If he was still alive.

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This got a chuckle out of me. If you don't think it's funny I'm ending our friendship.

>>97864589
Ruin has come upon the house of Hlaalu.

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Still some things to touch up like that fucking missile but i'm leaving it here for now. This was a fun little distraction

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>>97864333
>him

>>97864618
you could have used a legiones imperialis rhino

>>97864641
Oh damn it was a female duck? Well her name is Beauregard now.

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>>97864618
Been trying to print the new 30k whirlwind turret on my scoprius so it looks more like the 40k whirlwind but the fucker just won't print correctly.

>>97864662
What about Beaurehild?

>>97863611
I'm just about to scan some old pewter marines (shits and giggles). I then got the idea that it would be cool to trawl ebay for some cheap metal minis (scan them for posterity) and then build/print a 2ed army. Holy fuck though, I was not prepared for the prices of old metal minis.

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>>97863698
GIB!

>>97863218
am I the only one who didn't like the eisenhorn books

>>97864745
Yes. You are the singular, lone soul that has and will exist to not enjoy that BL slop of a plastic miniature pulp novel.

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I like aztec/soth american anon(I know that Aztec is somehow technically incorrect but dont know why entirely).
I think 40k wuld benefit from a south american aesthetic chapter that get as much focus as the Black Templars. Having a foreign relegion inspired chapter (foreign to the british and white western audiance) that are also seen as just as faithful despite their different cultural practices to the catholic black templar would help make 40k feel weird, distant and unrecognisable

>>97864762
>"I like <insert> aesthetic"
>"I want a Space Marine chapter of it"
Marinefags are the worst. Just customise/kitbash them, its not that hard.

>>97864618
based

>>97864775
no fuck you I want them to be somewhat prominent in the fluff and more importatnly in the canon art of the setting.

>>97864759
I like some BL books. What I mean is, I often see eisenhorn novels as the books everyone recommends as an approach to 40k universe.
I however started reading them after being in the hobby and lore since forever and I thought they were poorly written, and after the first one rather boring too. Not to mention some fluff in there is basically wrong nowadays.

>>97864783
Your enjoyment of a faction/army is how popular it is? This is how a reddit upvotes addicted mind operates.
Who cares if your army is "established"? Just make your own. 90% of the time only you would know it exists anyway.

>>97864783
sucks for you

>all of these spew reacts replying to a deleted post

What did the decal merchant post?

>>97864803
Doesn't matter. He's getting deleted for ban evading.

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>>97864762
there's two free primarch slots for you to do whatever the fuck you want with

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Just saw this converted speeder to have two weapons in the upper slot. Gonna copy this so I can use the updated speeder loadout with all three guns.

>>97864803
use desuarchive to search it up if you’re curious, but it was just his standard army picture.

>>97863665
>gib
While its not very common, if a few models are ontop of a ruin and some of them are on ground level (still within coherency), do Towering units then get the bonus for the entire squad?

>>97863698
>>97864740
>>97864762
lizardmen+bolters there you go
space marines+severed heads and aztec tattoos there you go

>>97864805
>>97864819
Ah fair, he can't help himself what an absolute madman

>>97864818
The Lean Marines

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>>97864815
You can do anything you want with them but you have to make them kiss

>>97864848
maybe that's why they were wiped from imperial records

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>>97863611
Still working on guard shit. Sorry for shit pic.

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>>97863611
got some progress done on my terrain, but not as much as I would like because someone invited me to line dancing (I hated it), but I did leave early to keep painting. definitely a lot of small details still need doing, and there’s a lot of cleaning up to do, but I’m pretty pleased with it.

>>97864818
is the new land speeder meant to look much different to the old one?

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>>97864253
>Blue terrain is certainly going to be impassable, but the yellow pieces are probably difficult terrain? Meaning infantry can run over it at a penalty while vehicles can just run over it. I doubt there will be difficult terrain tests but it would be cool.

3rd and 4th edition's area terrain pretty abstract. The new terrain rules don't seem like much of a departure from those older editions.

In 4th edition for example, it didn't actually matter what was in the foot print of the terrain feature. Features like Trees, bushes, wreckage, or ruins were really just there as a physical reminder of the terrain type. You didn't concern yourself with the actual location of the features beyond where your models could physical rest. This meant that you could freely move through the foot print of the terrain piece, you could walk through solid features rather than path around them.

You could shoot into area terrain, out of area terrain, but never through area terrain. Terrain gave a bonus to units occupying it.

Because terrain was abstract, it made things pretty Samey. The difference between a forest and a ruined building wasn't a lot. What was physically present also didn't matter, terrain didn't need to be tall or short. They stopped shooting and provided a defensive bonus against shooting attacks. The benefit of either was very subtle.

Things being kind of the same though allows for a lot of creativity and possibility. The requirements for a good piece of terrain were so much less. Making your own terrain from every day house hold items was the norm back then. You could have jungle terrain, ruined cities, ice planet terrain, and what ever else you can think of and at the end of the day you could play an enjoyable and thematic game on it. You weren't going to get your shit pushed in because you were playing in the swamp themed table rather than the cities of death themed table.

Hopefully this is the way forward. Pic related.

My hope is that standardized terrain means lots of specialized neoprene mats for different factions like we saw last edition.

Couldn't we end the "what type of terrain is this" argument by having colour coded 'bases' for them? I don't mean actually attaching them to bases, but for the sake of rules the terrain could come with the 'platform' to place it on that clearly states what type of terrain it is.

>>97864894
I saw people do that sort of thing for Kill Teams because the terrain system is a little wild there, especially the way more competitive players use it.

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>>97864884
Seems identical to the current one but with all 3 weapons at once. Since I got a proteus speeder and it only has 2 weapon slots I was a bit fucked.

>>97864903
If the new landspeeder doesn't have like twenty guns strapped to it, it probably won't be taken.

>>97864906
Eh, ATVs get taken with a single multi melta. I don't care much as long as they keep the rule that buffed whirlwinds when you took speeders as spotters. Otherwise it's just a fast and cheap platform for a heavy weapon to move around the baord wherever support is needed, as always.

>>97864910
It just seems like vehicles are ending up with a crazy amount of weapons nowadays, like new dreadys and space marine tanks.

>>97864913
It's really just the little stubbers and stuff they fill them with. In terms of main weapons it's mostly the same as always.

>>97864916
They stole stubbers from the guard.

>>97864906
Starter box units tend to be a toss-up competitively. The cynical reason might be that GW wants people to eventually upgrade beyond those units and replace all of them but more likely they're just shit at balance.

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>oh cool this is relevant to my interests!
>he's just buying bundles at a discount and selling hte models he doesn't individually want to recoup his money

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Finished a venomcrawler today. Next is a squad of the old Raptors ( with the nemesis claw heads), and a termie squad.

>>97864906
Lets just wait and see. Maybe those thinkings sticking out the front turn out to be a pair of stubbers and they fashion some gun turret on the back as well. Plus a (pair of) missile pods under the chassis.

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>>97864958
A few small kit bashes, and some skin capes which you cant see.

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>>97864962
And some night lords i did 2 weeks ago. Im ditching the desert basing, and going to dusty rubble like the vehicles have.

Fun fact; Eldar can smell your emotions.

>>97864977
They just smell my precum leaking whenever I'm near them.