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tell us any stories about your LGS and it's customerbase, good or bad
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>>97865220
I want to beat the shit out of this man in the parking lot. Invest in crypto like a proper white nerd, holy shit. Suddenly, all the criticisms the whiny SJWs make sense about the hobby; look at all those fat, slovenly nerds. No muscle, all fat - and despite this, they engage in terrible practices that turn people off from the hobby. Of course I'll take some pronoun-popping hobbyist than a "lifer" like this, holy shit.

Anyway does anyone have some good recipes for pancakes. I've got some Dolly Parton mix.
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>go to the usual store in the city, check out if there's anything cool I want to get
>have a look around at the tables downstairs
>kids are going around mocking people for their paintjobs
>a few of them are playing
>it's just netlists on an almost flat surface deployed on the long side so that they can smash in the middle
>meanwhile some guy who thinks he's cool is rolling up a cigarette near the fire exit

And that's when I decided I would never play in these places.
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>>97865302 (Me)
>accompany a friend who has to get some comics
>there's small tables to play pokemon, yu gi oh or whatever
>a grown ass man opens his fancy briefcase and uses an optimized deck to play against a kid that's holding his head in his hands while looking down at the table
>the man has the gall to look smugly pleased

What's wrong with these people?
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>>97865220
>walk into shoebox LGS that opened down the street
>owners haven't cleaned or renovated the store at all
>haven't even bought a sign
>there's like a dozen comics and a few board games on the wall
>3 obese neckbeards are hunched around the table, sifting through a few thousand MtG cards
>all of them have their shoes off, shoes strewn about the miniscule floorspace
>store smells like mold and feet
>never return
>store shuts down a few months later.
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>>97865264
whats worse is the LGS is letting him

this isn't your usual scalper, but a regular who is currently scalping and the LGS lets him get away with it because he's a loyal customer
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So, funny quirk about my usual LGS, it has 2 Yu-gi-oh trophies on display, despite not stocking Yu-gi-oh merchandise, nor hosting any Yu-gi-oh games, they even have a standing policy that if they see you with Yu-gi-oh cards, you’ll be asked to either put them away or leave.

I guess in the past (before I started going), they did used to host Yu-gi-oh tournaments, and stocked the cards. But turns out our local Yu-gi-oh community are a bunch of unsocialized gremlins who would trash the store’s gaming area, do shady dealings, counterfeit cards, etc… they were giving the store a bad reputation and making the store’s regulars uncomfortable. So the owners lost their patience and banned the game outright from the store, in its entirety.

As I heard it told, the Yu-gi-oh players moved to playing at the Del Taco across the street, until they got banned from there too.

Regardless it’s held as one of the reasons the store’s original owners have always been held in high regard.

They both died in 2020 from Covid. But the store’s continued to remain open, changed hands a few times, but always remained open. Though it’s lost some of its atmosphere from those days.
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>>97865696
name the LGS plx
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>>97865696
Yu-gi-oh is universally banned in my area at the game stores:
>never buy anything not even a drink
>loud and obnoxious, heavy profanity
>cards/decks getting stolen
>fights
>5-6 things shoplifted during each event
They were all trouble and no benefit.
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>>97865264
>I am a tourist
Lemme guess, triefling?
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>>97865829
bot post?
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>>97865349
Why wouldn't they?
LGS are a business.
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>>97865882
Selling ALL of a product to one consumer is actually bad for business, since you want as many repeat and happy customers as possible

>Dragons Den always sells all its pokemon to that fat guy. Im going to the JokersChest from now on!
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>>97865891
>Selling ALL of a product to one consumer is actually bad for business, since you want as many repeat and happy customers as possible
Depends entirely on turn-around for the store.
If they order in extra accounting for it or can re-stock within 3 days it's no big deal.
An easier way for a store to go bankrupt is to refuse to sell to people.
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>>97865909
They don't refuse they set limits. Your business will not sustain itself if you keep selling all of your product to one person forever. You will drive away an actual customer base in favor of one pig.
This is basic business practices, and I'm not really sure why you're arguing against it as though you've come up with some new economic thesis
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>>97865772
Yeah, because any Yu-gi-oh players over a certain age are unsocialized gremlins. And any players under that age threshold legally can’t work so the money they have to spend is limited.
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>>97865220
I could never respect an LGS that doesn't have a limit on Pokemon.
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>one day I was bored
>I decided to try visiting an lgs for a change in search for some game groups
>they have magic game groups!
>they're the good kind of neckbeards, like human equivalent of dwarves in terms of general mood and humor, playing with them is fun(though I just look when it's edh time because I don't like it)
>they dubbed me the Shadowmoor guy because almost all the cards I use are from shadowmoor
>when lorwyn eclipsed came out they presented me a few boosters for my birthday
I got lucky meeting those lads, bless 'em
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>inside is louder than a casino
>fat fucks are smelly
>hot and moist during summer and winter due to the number of people
>outside is full of smokers
>is hot as hell during summer and cold in winter
>all the terrain are L shape of unpainted mdf
>there is an event almost everyday and a tournament every weekend
>so if you want to play you either have to play competitive wargames or hope there is an empty table
>there aren't other options because I live in the third world and most of the player base it too poor to have a proper club
I hate it hear.
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>>97866913
commit suicide o algo
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>>97866920
I could culturally enrich one of your countries.
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>>97866944
im from india
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>>97865220
Is every human in the USA fat?
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>>97866950
Guess my life is not that bad
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>>97866952
The USA is populated by Americans, anon. Very few humans live there.
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>>97866952
40% to 70% are obese in the USA.
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>>97866985
42%, not even in the top 10. What a disgrace.
Gringos are getting thinner as years go by, but when they get fat they get their own gravity well.
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>>97865220
Okay, old grumpy man here…

Most of the gaming shops in the UK are basically used by inattentive parents to dump their little shits off at whilst they go have affairs so it's basically a fucking youth club (remember those?) most of the time. Lots of screaming and throwing minis about.

My LGS has a booking system for the roleplaying tables and you best bloody use it because they seem to have a magic tournament going every fucking week so if you just want to rock up and play something else you're out of luck. And no it's never promoted beforehand.

The place used to be bigger and have more board games and niche stuff but shockingly no one wanted to pay £10 more for a box some sticky fingered goblin has been licking. They have since downsized the shop part of the shop.

We have a fortnightly group meet up for people wanting to find people to play roleplaying games with, but it's mostly just a popularity contest. Full of your “actor” types. The ones who are already in with the “cool kids” get swamped with requests whilst people like me wanting to run TOEE get ignored cause we're not doing a homebrew Bridgeton mod for 5e or some other other crap.

We have a high student population where I live, so most of the customers for game shops are poncey hipster pricks who have bought their decks online or have watched Critical Role so much they can quote it from memory and don't understand how combat works.
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>>97867210
critical role and its consequences have been a disaster for the rpg society
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>>97866166
>not sustainable
>sell to him forever
>forever
Sounds sustainable
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>>97867793
I have nothing against people playing a narrative focused game in the streamed/recorded vlog style of Critical Role. What I have an issue with is using D&D to do it. The rulebook is 80% about combat, it's balanced for dungeon crawling with limited rest stops. (And thus something like a lore bard + tome warlock multiclass makes the social game a breeze.)

Let's say you take something like Legend in the Mist, a system built from the ground up to be a narrative game (and in fact quite a lethal system if you look at the death spiral/5 stacking hits and incapacitate rule). These sorts of players don't want to play LotM because it's not the 5e game they know.

Ironically they also don't want to play Daggerheart for the same reason. It becomes about wish fulfillment theater improv with no consequences and not a game where you have to play to not lose. I don't even hate pre-2024 5th Edition, I think it's fine. I just don't like where the hobby has gone.
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>>97867856
He gets shot or dies from one too many big macs and now you lost your whale AND all the people that got scared off from your store
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>>97865882
Plenty of stores put limits on how much individual customers can buy, including shit like walmart and pokemon cards, so ask them
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>>97865220
My LGS has survived fires, burglaries, embezzlement, a child diddling scandal, and the wokeining era.
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>>97866952
no. just the cattle
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>>97866920
what does o algo mean again
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>>97866952
it's our Strategic Calorie Reserve and it can shoot back
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>>97865220
it STINKS
and now that warm weather is upon us it's only going to get worse
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Thought I was on /k/ for a second lol
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>>97867856
Fucking retard lmao go write a book on business practices
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>>97865220
I no longer go to local game stores regularly. Despite there being 4 in a 2 mile radius in a small city with only around 70,000 people in it.

I play board games with my friends inside one of their businesses for one group, and the other group is inside a brewery. The only time I really go to the game stores is to buy card sleeves or an occasional comic. The few times I do go to my comic stores to buy sleeves or comics, it's full of neckbeards and it stinks. They are usually playing TCGs like One Piece, Grand Archive, or MTG. One of the places used to be a restaurant with a banquet hall, and the entire banquet hall is full of tables for games.

I'm kind of tired of TCG friendships really. A tournament is absolutely exhausting, and there are so many other things I'd rather do with my time. I like board games mostly because of the variety and social aspect of it. It isn't really competitive and is more relaxing to play.
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>>97865220
>Be me 2-ish years ago.
>New LGS in town. Town is small so it's only LGS in town too.
>Go along every weekend for ttrpg nights to support it.
>Owned by three people, two dudes and one chick. Dudes kinda don't like that, to be a business, they have to actually make money as a cafe.
>Chick is pretty cool though. She knows that to start out the cafe part is always more important, and that owning a building costs money, and yet she's also the least spergy person of the trio.
>Their games nights are 'one big setting with multiple paid DM's running 5e, with only the PhB, and at different levels'.
>Basically people come in on the night and sit down at random, and the DM runs something like DotMM or LMoF or something.
>They're complaining about expenses and have only one paid DM (whom I kinda co-DM with), plus a couple personal games.
>Offer to be a rostered DM to main guy. Willing to do it for free, and I've chatted to all of them a lot by now.
>Get told no.
>Ignore this and take on games and tables myself because eight newfags on one HMF grog DM is too much, and actually have pretty fun sessions there, taking eager 8 year olds with knight PC's on quests for rare flowers and the like.
One of the most kino games I've ever had in all honesty.
>DM likes that there's someone else there who's fairly experienced in the hobby, who isn't massively autistic and can communicate more than three words a minute.

>Leave for two years to go overseas.

>Come back. Decide I want to go in for an in-person game.
>Rock up, and everyone's sitting in chairs, staring at me with their heads down (I've an athletic, 'scary' build that doesn't immediately suggest a WoD enjoyer).
>Go up to the main guy and say "hello again".
>Has no idea who I am.
>Ask if there are any games going that I can join in on.
"Do you have a ticket?"
>lulwut.exe
"We have too many people coming in to play games. You need to reserve a ticket prior to the session if you want to play."
>Offer to run a game.
"No."
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>>97868489
Getting some real autistic vibes from this mother fucker.
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>>97865220
Mine closed during covid and never reopened.
There is a weeb store that technically sells cards but they make the bulk of their money selling overpriced plushies and used manga that they buy in bulk somewhere.
There is also a place that sells Warhammer in my town, that is tiny and only opened two days a week with really weird store hours, so I personally never seen them opened.

So yeah, I buy my stuff online and only play with people I know from martial arts clubs or occasionally family members.
Tried several times playing online and it was always without exception a shitshow, mainly due to scheduling and people not showing up/ghosting.
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>>97868067
In reality a new whale comes and takes the now available stock
>nuh uh
K. It may shock you to know many companies have one major client that keeps them afloat
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Mine opened in a real small town without much play space. It closed after a year. Me and the boys had to start going to the one 25 minutes away, which isn't too bad but sucked that our place died. We've been coming to the other one for a year or two now. Admittedly it's a much better shop.
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>>97865264
Even if what you say is right it is not a good idea to choose a lesser evil over what you deem is a worse evil.
In the context of an LGS community of course. There are contexts where it is better.

I just hate pokemon scalpers mostly because it is becoming dangerously common for scalpers to engage in more insane ways for cardboard crack to scalp online like robberies of varying comical degrees.

The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already and eventually it will reach wargames.
If it hasn't already to the level that pokemon scalpers go to get their cards to scalp online.
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>>97866952
Only old people and minorities.

As a chubby chaser, trying to find a fat white zoomette under the age of 25 is like trying to find a fucking unicorn.
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>>97867210
Sheffield?
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>>97870043
>America solves its obesity crisis
>With inflation
Comical
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>>97865315
>Sees Seto Kaiba IRL
>is displeased
Mad bcuz 3rd rate duelist
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>>97869885
>The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already and eventually it will reach wargames.
Politely, no it won't, at least nowhere near to the extent and problem Pokemon has. Retards like the Pauls have desperately tried to do it with Yugioh and MTG and are actively failing.

The primarily problem is that most people in the Pokemon TCG space dont actually play the fucking game. The cards are glorified NFTs. They hold the same "value" as sports cards like a rookie MJ. Its less a game piece and more a collectible.

While there ARE rare and expensive cards in Yugioh and MTG, price is almost completely dictated by powerlevel and popularity as a GAME PIECE. Gaea's Cradle is 700 dollars because it's one of the most powerful lands ever printed, and legal to use in the games most popular format (EDH). Force of Negation is 50 dollars because it sees play in multiple formats and is one of the top 5 best counters of all time.

This sams logic applies to Yugioh, albeit differently due to how Konami handles powercreep, archetypes etc. But the same philosophy applies; Expensive cards are expensive because theyre good.

You dont need some first edition numbered fractured foil ghost rare artist signature insert to play the game. Youll just get the cheapest, most accessible option.

This is where it's really funny to go to any LGS or vendor where you can tell theyre some Pokemon scalping crypto retard and they thought they could break into MTG. All they ever carry is slop from the newest sets and they're bewildered and dont understand that that "special foil mythic alt art" they pulled is fucking worthless because the card is dogshit unplayable and nobody cares.

Pokemon? Collectors and investors outnumber players. In MTG and Yugioh its the complete opposite.
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>>97870106
That was actually a wonderful read anon.

Does this whole thing mean that wargaming miniatures are safe from the extreme levels of scalping that Pokemon cards have at the moment?
I know that wargaming miniatures are not immune to scalping. I'm talking about the level Pokemon cards face like robberies for cards, physical fights over them the second restocks happen etc.

I think the companies benefit heavily from the scalping epidemic on their end and maybe mini companies will see this and want to entice scalping of their products for quick term big profit. Especially with 3D printing (allegedly) getting more easily accessible and usable to the ordinary joe.

If the Pokemon Scalping level hits Warhammer I can imagine most game stores will be screwed over as boxes of minis are scalped and fights and even stolen off the tables of ongoing games.
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>>97869885
>The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already
Europe just passed a law to make pokemon cards "collectible art pieces" so now if you're trying to "invest" in them you'll get taxed to hell.
it probably won't stop it but it's at least something
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>>97870133 (here)
Forgot to add.
I will admit that part of me wants to see the insanity happen as I want to feel superior for not taking part in such pursuits of dollars over dignity. Which is why I partly want to see the scalping menace reach Warhammer.

But if it does I'll probably suffer too and regret my wishes.
>>97870106
>Politely, no it won't, at least nowhere near to the extent and problem Pokemon has.
How badly would it reach at worst?

I need another coffee.
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Mostly reminded by the numerous mentions in the thread and this >>97869885 in particular but down here in Australia from what I've noticed LGS are divided into two categories generally; those that ban specific TGCs and those that don't. The ones that do ban them usually ban everything but MtG while the ones that ban none of them invariably garner absolutely scumfuck reputations; there's one particular LGS a couple suburbs away from me that shut it's doors because the owner went to jail. He was prosecuted for unsealing boosters of Pokemon/Yugioh and selling the profitable cards then resealing them with junk filler, which down here is a federal crime. From my perspective TCGs are a net negative to LGS businesses and are only tolerated out of the evil necessity of pulling in profit. So for me, easy way to immediately spot a bad LGS is whether they're banning almost or all TCGs; YMMV.
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>>97870043
>almost a third of millennial women is obese
Americans is this true?
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I really like my LGS. The staff are friendly (even though a couple of them look scary with piercings and tattoos) and the people who play Warhammer Fantasy there are great. The card game people are a little unpleasant, but they're on their side of the store and the wargamers are on the other, so that's okay. The store caters really hard to people who play card games and 40k, but that's how they make money so that's alright and they do allow and even encourage people to play other games. The guys who play the star wars wargames are kinda mean though, they get real mad at you if you show up wanting to do anything else on "their" night even when there are lots of tables not being used. There's a healthy WHFB community there, sometimes they have really old models from the '80s just waiting to be discovered (I got the chaos renegade that I used to make this fella from there) and that's why the store is great. I'm going to miss it very much, but I've made a lot of memories there over the last four years. If I'm ever back in town, I'll be sure to pop in and see how everyone's doing.
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>>97870133
>>97870147
The thing you have to keep in mind in any hobby or game where Players outnumber Collectors is that players will find a way.

I dont want to get into the ethics and opinions about proxying, but the more time you spend in circles of people who play warhames, tabletop rpgs, even Magic, people will find a way to acquire or make game pieces to play with their friends or their LGS. Yes, yes, they aren't condoned for official tournament play, but your average Billy and Jimmy dont give a single fuck about that and just want something to do on a weekend.

You joke about 3D printing but theres a reason its taken the hobby by storm. The models are cooler, more varied, more accessible. That's not even getting into the part of the miniatures hobby where alot of people enjoy PAINTING more than they ever give a fuck about PLAYING, so who gives a fuck about whether its an Official GW Chaos Space Marine or an Evil Maelstorm Galaxy Knight, you just want plastic to paint.

Pokemons main issue is that most people dont play the game. Theyre more obsessed with grabbing whatever chase card is in the set or collecting their favorite Glorbo, Sproingus, and Glup Shitto.

I went to a card show in my state recently just to pick some shit. No joke, all the Pokemon stuff was slabbed up. Nobody gave a shit about the game. I bet you my left nut if you asked half those vendors how to play they'd go cross eyed. All anyone did was talk about market trends and "pop scores" and other crypto adjacent bullshit. Meanwhile when I found one of the two or three actual Magic stalls? Surprise surprise, people and the vendors actually TALKED about the game, their decks, their favorite strategies and formats.

I'm not saying the cryptobro bullshit cant infect some of these other hobbies, but it is INFINITELY harder for them when you see just how quickly your average wargames or Magic player will just go "lol fuck you" and play with sticks, stones, and paper scribbles if they have to.
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>>97870133
> Does this whole thing mean that wargaming miniatures are safe from the extreme levels of scalping that Pokemon cards have at the moment?
I honestly don’t see how they could.
I mean a wargame’s miniatures are, 90% of the time, sold as model kits. Those kits aren’t going to be “rare” because all players need access to them, they may be locally rare, but if a mini is actually rare and hard to find, it either means the mini is being phased out of the game and probably won’t have rules for it pretty soon if not already (making it worthless), or the game itself isn’t extremely popular in the area/the game is dying, which means there’s likely nobody interested in buying the minis (making them worthless).

The only way I can see being able to turn over a profit from reselling wargame miniatures would be to buy the kit, take it home, assemble the kit, paint it, and then resell it as a finished model; but that would only work if the quality of the work was of a higher level than what the average wargamer can produce themselves. But this would require effort, and hard work, and I don’t think that’s what the typical scalper is looking for.
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>>97870043
Isn’t the joy of architecture building from the ground up?
Just feed a bitch anon
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>>97870133
I don't think that's a possibility. Some of the big box sets GW puts out do get scalped but those boxes are just a bunch of kits bundled together. The really egregious price-gouging only happens with metal models from the '80s and '90s and that's not so much scalping as it is those models just being rare and desirable.
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My LGS used to have a gumball machine that I would leave quarters in for the little ones until some dipshit let his kids knock it over and break it.

Aside from that everyone there is chill albeit there is a tranny that shows up for Magic and is super fucking prissy and I instantly hated it from the moment it gave me shit for smoking in the parking lot.
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>>97868128
“or something”
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>>97870316
>pic
fucking zog dogs
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>>97865220
>LGS I used to regularly go to breaks off from the nation-wide company that used to own them
>complete rebrand and ownership change to the former managers
>skip forward a year
>I'm in the area for other reasons and go in to possibly grab some sleeves and ask about what games they're run during their alt-wargaming Thursdays that recently started
>literal fat neckbeard manager is down the back, sorting chairs and cleaning tables
>part timer chick is stocking sleeves near the entrance
>I walk up and look at the sleeve prices
>roughly double what their former parent company and Amazon charge
>almost scoff at the price
>walk up to the counter and buy sleeves on my phone while waiting for someone to come talk to me
>chick finally notices me and comes up
>I ask about the Thursday event
>"Uh... I think Yu-Gi-Oh is the only thing we do on Thursdays"
>tell her that the event calendar on their website and FB page lists Thursdays as alt-wargaming and to call or come in to ask about what they're running each week
>she walks behind the counter, opens up FB, scrolls up and down on the store's page for 5 minutes without stopping to read anything or look at their weekly event calendar, then says that I'm wrong and that Thursday is just D&D and Yu-Gi-Oh
>she doesn't say anything else and just goes back to stocking shelves
>I walk out and go home
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>>97870133
I'll throw in mine too and say hard no. The biggest reason it's turned into a scalper engine is due to the random chance nature of card packs. Cards are stupidly cheap to manufacture, miniatures are not. The only way to make money flipping pokemon cards is to consume enough volume that whatever you spend on them is extremely likely to pay off with a few good cards. Why those cards have any value has already been described better than I could have. If a miniatures game came out that had a blind-box system, and was giga-popular, and stayed popular for a long time, then maybe it could, but it still wouldn't have the accessibility of a card game.

The closest to it might be Games Workshop games due to sheer popularity, but that's virtually a pure collector ecosystem, nobody is buying unopened Battlefleet Gothic starter sets at $600 apeice and expecting it to finance their retirement 20 years from now.
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Turn up to lgs for a quick wargame. We figure there should be a space on a wednesday evening.
Shop is full of mtg players downstairs so we go upstairs and set up on the larger (3.5 x 8) table.
Partway through our game 2 guys walk in to the room and start looking for a space to play, completely ignoring the small (4 x 3) table before heading back downstairs.
Owner comes up to tell us that the table was booked and told us to relocate our wargame to the small table.
The 2 guys come back and play a single mtg game on the large table before leaving.
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>>97872377
You were in the wrong here, dripping with spite for some reason. Also if you were unable to also bring those events up on your phone to prove yourself right it leans more towards you being some weird sperg that probably wasn't even in the right store
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>>97865220
>go into store
>buy Humbrol 66 Olive Drab and 67 Tank Grey
>purple haired girl behind counter
>"hey anon, what are you painting"
>reply "Nazis, lots of Nazis"
>bitch looks at me like I've just raped her
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>>97868128
"Or something" or something
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>>97869672
>It may shock you to know many companies have one major client that keeps them afloat
Did it shock you to know that real companies also place limits on how many pokemon cards you can buy
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>>97875877
kek
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>>97867793
Nope, Brighton.
But it just shows how common the problem is in the UK.
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>>97876093
Real companies do a lot of things
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My LGS is chill. There's small subcommunities, notably the RPG, MTG, WH, and classic wargame groups. It's neat though, the classic wargaming group is a bunch of older guys, they play those games with the little tiles on em.
Also one of the employees hits me and laughs when I cry out in pain and the store owner allows it because it's funny and I'm annoying
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>>97876307
Like that
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>>97877000
Chekd and yes, and also not that
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>>97870316
>or collecting their favorite Glorbo, Sproingus, and Glup Shitto.
That would've been fine on its own, it was the mindset of a lot of kids back in the day. And yeah, kinda the reason why we're in this mess. But like you said
>All anyone did was talk about market trends and "pop scores" and other crypto adjacent bullshit.
That's all of it nowadays. I've seen the youtube space go from manchildren waxing nostalgically or talk about art to manchildren soullessly talking about market investment garbage and mispronounce names and talk like the most generic failed youtuber. It disgusts me.
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>>97875877
Based hope she bans you
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>>97865220
had one girl playing some card game a table over who was talking loudly about how her mom or herself made lewd cardmats on commisions. which is about par for the course for card gamers.
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I've never been to a [Friendly] Local Game Store. They always seem to be mad that I came in. It got to the point that I thought I had bad hygiene or something but no, they just didn't like having me in the store.
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>LGS staff want to ban a player because he attends meetings for the restore UK party
I had to convince them to back down because the person hasn't actually done anything wrong (because they actually haven't in regards to the LGS or its playerbase) and it'd just make matters worse
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>>97878452
They can smell you're a disney adult
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>>97878474
how did they even find out
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>>97878484
I don't know, it's one of the magic players and I don't know them personally
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>>97878474
>people being banned for having the wrong opinion
>>relax anon, your rights arent being violated
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>>97878474
To be fair, they're just doing their jobs as loyal UK citizens.
Didn't you know that it's illegal to think anti-establishment thoughts or to go against the agenda of the current government?
Fuck the UK. My parents want to leave Australia for England and I'm all but begging them to go anywhere else since the British police are already doing door knocks and arrests for people posting shit online.
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>>97878481
I was wondering why you picked Disney but then I realized that Disney owns Marvel now.
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>>97870156
You are conflating game stores with card stores.
Card stores invariably suck nigger cock.
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>>97866858
>they're the good kind of neckbeards, like human equivalent of dwarves in terms of general mood and humor
I know exactly the kind guys you're talking about.
Used to hang with a similar group before I moved. Banter, accommodating, and everyone just enjoying their time.
I miss those guys.
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>>97878750
I still think he's retarded, and I don't know if he was doing that to be an asshat or if a lot of people unironically did forget that Disney only bought marvel in like 2009. Which would be fucked up of true
And that pic has got to be from something way older than that
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>>97865829
The artist of that image makes guro porn of that OC
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>>97865220
My LGS has been around since the 80s, customerbase is a mix of old grognards playing historicals, some younger guys that play 40k, and the occasional smattering of MTG players. The place doesnt stink, the staff is friendly, and everyone is pretty chill, so much so that ive even seen some normie women come in occasionally, and they dont immediately run for the hills
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When I first visited my LGS about 2 years ago, I was introduced to 40k by this guy named Brandon. Now Brandon was an odd fellow, wore furry merch like hats and shirts, was visibly autistic, and, above all, a newbie poacher. He'd only play against new/inexperienced players, CHEATED during said games, then be a smug faggot all like "yeah, I have a 100 game win streak". I, a fellow autistic furfag, was immediately repulsed by his 1% more autistic demeanor, so I called him out on bullshit, made him quit tau because he couldn't daisy chain spotter-shooter pairs, and claimed games with new players before he could. Unfortunately, during that time, he got 2 new kids to quit 40k out of frustration.
He was then banned for showing dick pics unsolicited to another player.
Fuck you Brandon. I know about the diaper stuff
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>>97866166
There's nothing more sure of himself than a fool.
For he does not know what he does not know.
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>Wargamers getting shoved aside for Magic, Riftbound, and Gundam players and One Piece collectors
>retards come in and blow $400+ on booster boxes and shit during events
>Warhammer/Conquest/Legions player will buy a box or two almost every week
>try to run event for Warhammer
>politely get told to fuck off halfway through because they need the space for the hambeast Magic players

People are cool overall, but I just got tired of being second-class 'cause I don't blow triple-digit dollars on coomer shit like One Piece cards.

>>97865264
Melted butter can help make it more batter-y which turns into soft, fluffy pancakes. I did some from scratch recently and they were delicious.
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>>97879613
Im genuinely so happy that my LGS only has like one tiny corner of the store dedicated to magic, and the entire rest is dedicated to wargames and RPGs. I feel like it definitely fosters a better community
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>>97879577
>Fuck you Brandon
I swear Brandon is a cursed name. My local store used to have a regular named Brandon, who I accidentally created the nickname Captain Autism for by calling him it once while hanging out with the two employees of the store, that they had to tard wrangle all the time. The thing that they most consistently did was ask him the name of what ever woman he was attempting to bother which would make him give up. He was annoying but wasn't really that bad, he just stopped showing up since the store moved and wasn't within a 3 minute walk for him anymore.
The YuGiOh guys were more trouble anyway. Cheating in tournaments against the biggest shitters, theft from one another, no bathing, the occasional theft from the store, yelling various curse words and slurs all day even when the store had normalfag families looking at board games, and an eventual devolution to where they never actually bought anything from the store resulted in all YuGiOh events being dropped and a much smaller amount of product being carried in the store. Our Brandon was one of the YuGiOh players as well, mostly due to him getting into anything he could get his hands on, but was just annoying and actually bought stuff, didn't steal, and I never heard him say a single slur or curse in the first place so he wasn't really part of The YuGiOh Problem. Having to share a night with the YuGiOh fags for a few years was hell.
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>>97875877
I always assumed this shit was a meme until I nearly witnessed a fist fight between a Bolt Action player and a resident nagging leftist who automatically assumes that every historical wargamer supports the local "far right" party
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I have a couple LGS and they all are kind of falling into the same traps.

>Local GW has some cool staff, but others just try to shill stuff to buy even if you bought something or just want basic advice. The entire store is also just filled with tourneyfags now who run comp lists for anything from bloodbowl to 40k.
>No "your dudes" allowed seems to be the go to, as many people outside greybeards want only GW models with no bits of any kind.

>Another store used to be part of a franchise before they bought themselves out, now they only do card games or occasionally 40k. They got rid of all their board games and rpg books.

>Third store is a general hobby store that branched off recently to have card game or 40k nights. AOS and old world are kind of layed there, but terrain is limited to L shape ruins.

>Last store around me is a comic store that has some cool staff, but it mainly focuses on cards or skirmish games. Some staff there get really pissy over Warhammer or historical stuff because they think it supports the wrong people while other staff enjoy it, so it is a toss up of what happens.
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>>97869885
>The Pokemon scalping disease will spread to other card games if it hasn't already and eventually it will reach wargames
I've seen people try and sell 40k and aos battleforces at prices so high it's actually cheaper to buy all the contents individually straighr from GW. I can only assume these are tcg scalpers trying to dip their toes into doing the same thing for warhammer but being too retarded to figure out what they're actually trying to scalp and why it doesn't work that way.
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>>97869885
>>97880380
Scalping has already hit almost every war game. I saw almost a dozen people lined up to buy some box and try to finagle getting the mini of the month so they can "make bank on selling a leader they got for free". People were trying to sell some generic ghoul and space marine for like $35. Some of them got mad because a dude gave me two for being a regular and not a scalper.
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>>97880389
There was some chaos dwarf commemorative miniature released a few weeks back that you only got with a 100$+ purchase, but I can't imagine people lining up to scalp the literal 1 ghoul from mini of the month.
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>>97880403
That was the weird part. There were no commemorative minis being released. You had some random people there all lining up near the start of the month all trying to get generic mini model that they could sell to "losers" .One got mad when I asked why they were desperate to get a generic grunt ghoul model.I have used the minis of the month to convert into characters before, but these guys thought the basic one model sprue was worth as much as any character.
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>>97866950
>from
So what, you left there to go somewhere else because you hate being around indians? Way to share the fucking problem asshole.
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>>97880414
no accounting for retards I suppose
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>>97869885
The solution to scalping problems is to decentralize card supply.
With services like MPC to print your own the false scarcity and gambling aspects vanish and scalping/theft along with them.
I've got two EDH decks this way, both $80 flat. The one is comprised of cards that, if "real" would make the deck "worth" $10,000 or so, the other is pure fluff fun with Elesh but that card alone is $80.

This "official" mentality with TCG's is a deeply ingrained absurdity. Chess pieces are valid wether purchased or carved by hand, all that matters is that the rules are adhered too, and with the insane power creep of "official" cards like with MtG for about a decade now even that angle could be seriously debated (old community sets respected design space and power scale more than New Thing does)
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>>97870043
I always thought fat men were more common than fat women...
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>>97880380
>>97880403
>>97880414

This is actually fascinating to read. Because it really makes clear the mindset of the typical scalper. They clearly don’t see the value of what they are trying to resell, nor do they actually understand why others might value it, and they clearly couldn’t be bothered to do any homework prior. To them it’s just a “pump and dump” routine, grab as many of thing you believe to be a “collectible” (or is collectible-shaped) to get a big-ass stockpile and drive up scarcity, start talking up the rarity and potential resale value of the thing you have bought up, to further drive up the price, and then sell them to some sucker for outrageous prices as fast as possible.

Which, funny enough, is basically how all the big speculative market bubbles came about: crypto, NFTs, dot-com, beanie-babies, baseball cards, comic books, the East India Company, etc…

All can be summed up as what happens when you get a cycle of scalpers selling to scalpers to sell to scalpers, with everyone involved moving too fast to actually pay attention to what’s going on.

You’d think someone who is looking to make a living as a reseller would’ve taken at least one economics course at some point, which would’ve likely covered this exact economic phenomena so they don’t fall victim to it. But what do I know? I’m not a reseller.
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>>97880688
>with everyone involved moving too fast to actually pay attention to what’s going on
Or alternatively, they're perfectly aware that the whole thing is a pyramid scheme about to come crushing down sooner or later, and they're just gambling to get in, profit, and get out before it does.
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>>97880757
That too.

Regardless, with as many times as it’s happened you’d think they’d have learned by now that the best move is to not get caught up in it.
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>>97880358
>>No "your dudes" allowed seems to be the go to, as many people outside greybeards want only GW models with no bits of any kind.
i took a break for 20 years and came back to try out kill team. at an LGS, where theres rule in the league your models have to be 75% GW plastic. its just? why? there are a world of models to make, print, and bash.
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>>97880853
Play frostgrave or stargrave. Almost the same, but mini-agnostic
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>>97880912
i'd rather play anything but GW, its all thats at the store. my fault for living in a small town. stargrave looks pretty cool
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>>97880853
>I'd like to play at your LGS with my 37 printed kill teams
>no, I don't plan on buying anything from you
Do you understand why this might not be a good look for you?
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My LGS (Alphaspel) has a really cute girl manning the register but I'm too much of an awkward nerd (like everyone else there) to ask her out. Well that, and the whole married thing.
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>>97865696
>>97865772
I too have noticed that yugioh is primarily played by blacks.
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>>97878933
>>97866858
Ye, that type I know too, they are cool.
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>>97881020
I still can't believe the Konami suspended player list has shit like:
>Jerome Ali
>Banned for assault and unsportsmanlike conduct
Too bad the suspended player list is not public anymore after the 2020 george floyd riots.
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>>97879504
Sauce?
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There's a fat guy behind the counter, he's very polite and knows a lot. I have never seen another customer in there, no matter the time of day (I pass by daily on the way to work). They have no game nights despite having a room full of boards and tables. They've been in the same location for over 15 years and I have no idea how they stay in business.
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>>97880688
My perspective as a guy pushing 50 modren society has developed a get rich quick mentality. Everywhere you turn there's the mantra of "side hustle" and "passive income". Back in the day you bought things because you enjoyed or needed them. Now everything in some way became a investment instrument. I bought my house in 2004 as a normal home that I'm going to spend the rest of my life in. Now many people buy homes as a three year profit investment or rentals. My one friend bemoans that his house is the only house left in his neighborhood that isn't a rental. The internet and bots shitted up all kinds of markets. I stopped selling my old stuff on ebay due to it not being bought buy fellow players at a nice discount, but by resellers immediately putting my used stuff back up for sale at msrp or greater price.

/grog rant
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>>97879613
>Gundam players
the games already out?
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>>97880974
nah, i get it. except in the modern world. online shopping exists, model can always be found cheaper than in a brick store, even guaranteeing every model is 100% GW doesnt make them all bought from the store. Plus main support to the store comes from table fees or league fees, yadda yadda. I understand its not a social club and has costs. Hell, i go out of my way to buy all my paint and supplies there. I like the store, i just want my guys to be the coolest i can muster.
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>>97881202
Card game is, Wargame not yet.
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>>97881313
>i get it
Fuck that, it's a retarded rule, the only thing that would make sense is the rule being
>you have to buy 75% of everything you play in this store, from this store, with receipts to prove it.
The "must be GW" bullshit does not benefit the store as anyone can easily buy 100% of it online, making it financially identical to 100% prints as far as the store is concerned.
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>>97881374
Additionally the store can make money from printers by just stocking bottles of resin.
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>>97865264
>he doesn't know that the whiny sjws and the fat scalpers are the same exact person
Anyway, don't eat pancakes, you fat fuck.
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>>97878452
it's generally considered disrespectful in polite society to rock-up to a place naked and covered in chicken grease.
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>>97881374
The only thing that would make sense was to throw out freeloaders that only come to play tßh.
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>Walk into local store I hadn't realised existed in this small town, near where I live. Other than that, the closest place is a two hour drive away
>A bunch of fat, not obese 30+ males talking passionately about some game (mix of owners and customers, I think)
>A woman and a man is playing Warhammer, I think Old World, at a table. Seem to be having great fun
>Very nice, welcoming atmosphere
I was pleasantly surprised at how neat it was. They seemed to focus hard on Warhammer and card games, whereas I only really cared about TTRPGs and board games, but other than that it was really nice.
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>>97881081
>I have no idea how they stay in business.
There are many ways. First game store I hung out at started because the owners dad worked for GM. The dad died in a accident at the plant so he and his Mom split a $600k wrongful death settlement in 1991. There are two guys locally that make their living through MTG sales. They pop into and out of owning a game store. They buy magic collections to sell online and at conventions. For the past 20 odd years magic is basically their only income. There are nitch stores I know of owned by people that made their money when they were younger. The store is their dream so as long as sales almost cover cost they're happy.
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>>97880688
>>97880757
This, it's not that they don't know it's a scam and it's all going to collapse, it's that they think getting caught holding the bag is a skill issue and that they're better than all the past retards who have been bagholders.
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>>97881092
>modren society has developed a get rich quick mentality
Happens every time people see their economic future looking like less than what their parents had. Gig culture, hustle culture, constant scamming, and loss of ethical structure are inevitable whenever wealth centralization gets so bad that kids see themselves as unable to afford the lives their parents had for the effort their parents put in. The counterpoint is the ones that don't want to do this shit losing all ambition.

Generally there's a complete breakdown of reciprocal loyalty in there somewhere too.
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Personally, i stay away from buying pokemon product. I get a few singles of my favorite mons for my binders, once in a while but that's it.
Ironically, every LGS here runs nothing but pokemon events
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>>97865220
I once saw a literal 500lb man with a bearded woman at my LGS
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>>97865220
1/2
Since this is a general LGS thread
>1993-2011
First store I hung out at was a regular game store for its time. 50% was us young people starting the gaming hobby, 50% were grogs that have been gaming since the 70's. It was a time before the culture wars so it was fun with no special bullshit. There were as many games as you wanted to play as everyone played anything that attracted three or more people. The store got bought by three partners after the original owner got tired of the store. The Doctor partner eventually elbowed out the other two and he put his trophy wife in as the manager. The store slowly went down hill until we abandoned it and it went out of business.
>2011-2014
Our group moved to another store that was pretty good. We noticed that the younger players looked at us as oddities. This was due to that we played everthing. RPGs, wargames, boardgames, and some card games. They seemed to pick one aspect of gaming and that was ALL they did, whatever. The store was owned by a partnership. The one guy busted his ass on the store, his partner was less intense and a bit flaky. The flaky partner eventually sold his half to this one waste of oxygen know locally as "grease ball" due to his hair looked like it hasn't seen shampoo in 15 years. Grease ball is a literal NEET that lives off gibs from his parents. His refusal to do anything but cash a share check plus other issues caused the store to go under. The sad part was it was later discovered that the flaky partner never got around to cosigning the loan so the good owner go stuck with it all. Last I knew he us still in hiding from creditors.
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>>97881590
2/2
>2014-2020
Our group went to a new store ran by a mother hen. She was left leaning and catered to hipsters but the store was nice and was the cleanest LGS I've ever seen. It did well for itself and wotc even did a couple articles about it. It went out of business due to covid.
>2020-present
There are many stores around but none of them fit my groups fancy. One of the former employees from the first store is the manager of one of them and is actively "trying to get the band back together". It being located in a mall plus bad blood with the general manager means that's not going to happen.
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>>97881459
My two closest locals are
>Warhammer shop
>Card shop that recently gutted its wargame selection to save money
Neither of them are my kind of place, but at least they're friendly and filled with good people. I'm glad that they exist too.
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>>97881512
So, hubris.
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>>97881708
Well, hubris and a small sprinkling of sociopathy. (Improvidence is a trait of sociopaths)
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>>97881450
No, having people playing in the store is a living breathing advertisement.
Sell the games your players play, sell the tools they use.
If your locals print, that is tbe market speaking, if the business doesn't listen to that, that's lost profit.
LGS's with wargamers need to sell resin, not ban prints.
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>>97881924
Good way to kill your shop.
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>>97882201
>selling the things your customers use will kill your business
Sure thing james.
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>>97882213
profit margins, nigger
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>>97882295
Much more profitable to sell things locals don't buy and ban them for not buying those things.
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that I don’t think it is actually bad to let people play with whatever in the store since the stories about these bans happening are the odd ones out, as opposed to the opposite
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>>97865264
Just a reminder that TCGs are not a hobby, they are an activity. Hobbies have to be a creative outlet. Mindless consumption is not a hobby.
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>>97873936
I hope you raped everyone involved.
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>>97875877
Based hope she bangs you.
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>>97881512
A lot of crypto is set up that way. They openly sell it as a scam and know it's gonna come crushing down, part of the deal is trying to get in on it first and leave someone else holding the bag
Decaying society btw
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>>97883286
With her throbbing gock
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>>97883190
Don't tcg autists love figuring out metas and how shit works
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>>97881400
Scalpers are guys who failed at NFT and crypto and are currently jumping at AI and the few times they touch politics is sucking Elon Musk's cock and when Trump loosens polymarket gambling
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>>97865891
as long as you sell your inventory at a profit, anon, it doesn't matter if you sell it to one turbo autist or a hundred regular autists
sure, long term, a larger number of customers is more sustainable but if the owner's spending as much as he wants to on pokemon cards and selling out of them, he's coming out ahead regardless
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>>97869885
>card crooks
is that one on the list
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Maybe the problem will take care of itself?
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>>97883190
Deckbuilding is just as creative as list-building in wargames, without throwing hours building and painting a unit only to realise that you don't like how it plays.
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>>97884214
>without throwing hours building and painting a unit only to realise that you don't like how it plays
Most people I've played against think I'm weird for occasionally using half-assembled and/or unpainted armies, but I honestly don't want to put in the effort if I don't like how it plays (I can always re-use the unpainted models in other armies or cannibalise them for parts later down the line).
I have YET to regret this.
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>>97881092
>modern society sees people working more hours for money worth less than ever
>older generations don't even care to know what a dollar really is
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>>97881539
>tranny open carry
Haha I'm in danger
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*FLGS
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>>97878536

They're about to do it in the US, too. The Trump administration is suing private companies for the records of people who've posted negative stuff about ICE online.
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>>97865220

My LGS is great
It has a gaming area bigger than most LGSes, with 4 dedicated wargaming tables, plenty of multipurpose tables, and regular events, they also sell drinks and snacks at fair prices.
They even told all the CHUDS to be respectful to everyone or "they would not be missed" a decade before James Workshop did
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>>97895956
>reddit spacing
>tranny defense out of nowhere
k troon
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>>97896066
yup
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>>97879504
I hate this knowledge.
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>>97878536
>citizens

Subjects, more like.
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>brooklyn LGS
>real old school spot
>playing tcg when I hear a buzzing noise behind me
>the owner is giving a kid a haircut five feet behind me in the middle of the store
>it’s carpeted
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>>97884214
deck building doesnt involve painting and list making isnt the hobby part of wargames retard
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>>97897113
so RPG's aren't a hobby then either
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>>97871983
You should quit smoking, it's bad for you and I don't want chill dudes who are kind to kids to die before the local obnoxious man-woman
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>>97880527
>shows up at the lgs with $10k proxied deck
>"yeah its like a strong bracket 3"
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>>97868489
>Offer to run a game
>"No."
Had a similiar thing happen to me, where I offered to run a one-shor while the DM was out of town, though he didn't say "No." He damned the idea with faint praise and nobody showed up that week.
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The LGS I visited regularly is a very MTG first store. The shop owner has been playing since the 90's and has real dual lands in the case for sale which is cool. I'm a commander player so me and my friends like to play every so often there but jesus christ the regulars. One regular is straight up a tranny meme. Like imagine Collin Robinson from what we do into the shadows bald glasses and all but wearing a very fake red wig, GIANT fake silicone tits not implants like wearable tits triple HHH sized and a miniskirt with unshaved man legs, and to top it off their playmat is giant tit futa anime girls with like wet bedsheets covering them barely. Budlges and all. The other autistic MTG regulars are all smug cEDH wannabes that think playing in the EDH kittypool and curbstomping noobs is an achievement. Cool store cool owners clean just absolute dogshit regulars that constantly want to join my pods and I always have to swat them away.
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>at my Yu-Gi-Oh locals
>10 year old kid pulls Ulti Nib from his entry pack
>no less than 3 people immediately descend on him
>to give him sleeves for it and tell him very emphatically not to give it away or sell it without being triply sure that he's getting a fair deal for it
Man, some people are seriously fucked with their FLGS situation. I'm lucky everyone is so chill where I'm at.
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>>97865220
My LGS went down the drain over the course of 5 or so years. It had mainly YGO players and they are were all fucking thugs and kept fighting each other on top of stealing each other's cards. I played Pokemon in the corner because it wasn't popular back then but like god damn wtf is wrong with these people. Either way another one opened closer to me and I stopped going. Recently went back to visit and there's no space at all anymore. Everything to replaced by cardboard boxes of product. Most tables got removed and the few that remain have boxes on top of them. They don't host anything. I think they're just investors or resellers at this point. Dunno how it's still open.
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>>97866944
you couldn't culturally enrich a pile of shit schlomo
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>>97870133
scalping is always a shortfall boon for production. it's main benefit from an industry side is it guarantees max sales in a certain environment. but that only works so long as you don't max out the supply and can always replenish the supply
so the standard scenario is: scalpers buy up the majority of stock; sales needs met, but core audience and newcomers undersupplied and unfulfilled; scalpers capitalize on it by preying on the whales; proucer capitalize on it with successive production waves; initial scalping was successful so scalpers scalp more; this continues until either enough of the core audience can participate in it to validate the success or the scalpers literally starve their own market at the vine; fresh prduction continues but meets with exponentially more flacid figures because after the scalpers give up everyone either buys it late for their own interest or has moved on; if the scalping is particularly bad, the they'll lose some core audience to competitors or the cooling secondary market because that audience was underserved anyway so why care about engaging with it?
it was a problem very evident in the ps5 scaling days. now the production value and supply of a high end console is different than the deliberately controlled production of a game piece but the same trends emerged for different reasons; sure sony sold plenty of ps5s whether they ended up in fan hands or not. but the market after the first year or so very rapidly cooled because the fuckers that were selling the consoles just to inflate the cost killed two sales figures: they killed their own console sales because the thing was already fucking expensive and there's only so many whales in the sea, so why the fuck would they ever sell all those consoles they bought; and they killed more critically the game market
cont...
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>>97870133
>>97902810
the fuckers couldn't as easily have a monopoly on those - how could they? games are available more easily than ever digitally and cheap as chips physically anyway, so they didn't buy games at near the same rate if at all outside the most demanded. this is also mitigated by the fact a vicious and predatory games resale market already exists and no casual opportunist scammer is breaking into that gravy train with no knowledge. so no scalpers were buying games but more critically because they had no consoles, no players were buying games either. why would they if they weren't sure a console could be secured? after all most of the games are similar enough that casual fans would just play them somewhere else and even hardcore fans might as well from pure exhaustion with the market or fomo. this is the real reason why sony are pushing the digital console so hard by the way - to guarantee a one direction market control with high predictability. and even then the greedy fucks will raise the price 5 years later by $200 and simultaneously claim it was the customers themselves that are killing the physical game market when they let all these problems happen, profited from it and then try to sell people mineral water at the water fountain
all this to say is that grifters should be lined up and shot
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>>97902556
Was the opposite at my locals. The resident vapebros would always scam the young and the retarded.
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>>97870054
isn't that how it is in europe? food costs like 50% of your income but you can actually get it and eat it and it's good for you?
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>>97876351
hit him and laugh and see if everyone still laughs
you might get banned but hopefully he stops being a fucking retard
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>>97878481
but lorcana is really in right now so i thought i'd fit right in
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It's pretty nice. Good selection, nice employees, tons of leagues and tournies. I suppose the only problem is lots of normie gawkers and it's across the street from the library so this crackhead lady sometimes wanders over.

Before they opened the longest-running place had banker's hours, very few events, and an owner who was checked out. And for part of 2008 we had a little store that closed because the owner imprisoned for dating a 15 year old.

My college town had a weird lack of game stores despite a population of half a million.
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>>97902810
>sure sony sold plenty of ps5s whether they ended up in fan hands or not
From my personal experience Sony tried what they could to combat the scalpers. My tail for the time:
>not really into video games
>wanted to play Ghost of Tsushima and Horizon Zero Dawn
>go to the buy'em, beat'em, trade'em store and buy a used ps4 pro
>create a ps account
>while later get a email from Sony
>Sony is running a lottery with the ps accounts, your account was one drawn. on this date at this time click on this link for a opportunity to buy a ps5 from sony for msrp while supplies last.
>do research and find it's a legit thing going on with Sony
>at date and time follow link to a special area of the play station store, toss a ps5 in the cart and check out
>few days later ps5 is on my doorstep
>get a pile of offers for it from people I know
The PS5 release was a fiasco but I will at least say Sony did try to get them out there to fans.

Still not much of a video game guy so other that opening the top of the box and peeking inside that thing is still new in box sitting in my closet
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We have a Great Unclean One at our club. Seriously, dude looks like a GUO wore baggy tshirt and cargoshorts. Smells worse than you can imagine, the whole play area is affected by a deathly stench. It feels like once he's in the room, humidity increases to near 90%. No one has ever commented on this, I guess people don't want to hurt his feelings. I can't imagine how tournaments look when he plays in them. Also he's literally the only one like that. Everyone else is well kept and not even fat. Its like the single living avatar or spirit of neckbeardness that haunts the place.
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>>97866952
Milennifats and boomers only
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>>97875877
With alt girls this behavior either gets you incredible sex and a cool gf or a lifetime b&, they're either virulent racist White supremacists or normalnigger theater girl Becky playing "tough girl" dress-up. You'll know which is which by how "quirk chungus" they behave. More tattoos + more visible piercings + brighter colors = worse odds she's scum, obviously.
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>>97903302
>wanted to play... Horizon Zero Dawn
Fucking why?
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>>97903327
he's a totem drawing the neckbeardiness to himself. If he were to leave, you would gain 50lbs and feel an irresistible urge to buy a fedora.
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>>97876351
>I cry out in pain
...wtf? You sound like you deserve it.
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>>97895956
Everyone around you knows you're a man in a dress and is disgusted by you, they just don't want to lose their livelihoods for telling you the truth. Just thought you should know.
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being a hobbyist has taught me that you can judge a book by it's cover because all you fat guys are in fact annoying and retarded
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>>97903511
Post apocalypse open world game with princess Mononoke rip off themes.
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>>97879613
I’ve met the guy in your pic in person twice, he was the personal trainer of my friend who just got invited to the Mr Olympia natural section this year
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>>97867210
>We have a high student population where I live
Reading?
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>>97875877
you forgot to mention your dad works for nintendo.
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>>97878484
he was probably a sperg who couldn't shut the fuck up.
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I saw myself in the background of one of the Yugioh player's content I found on YouTube, buying some minis at the counter.
It made me realize how fucking fat I was.
I've lost 100lbs since.
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>>97865220
My local shop died back in 19. The first two owners had heart; but the last one was a Jew who thought he could treat MTG like he was an NYC jeweler and drove out the community that was keeping the joint afloat(lord knows the 40k players weren't spending as hard with 8th being mid and X-Wing announcing 2.0 killed that community fast). They had the best custom built large wood wargaming tables, a massive space that held over a hundred nerds, every game you could think of on the shelves, some of the best in house painters around, something big every weekend, etc... It was great while it lasted. Fuck you, Goldberg, you fucking fat yid twat.
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>>97870133
people broke into the local GW and robbed some chump change from a safe, the guy who worked in there said they'd have got much, much more if they'd each just taken a box from the shelves next to it.
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>>97905125
The store I first hung out at got broken into a few times in the 90's.
>mtg came out and was selling like gangbusters
>someone broke through the back door. stole all the magic and the money from the snack cup
>landlord fixed the door, installed a heavy deadbolt and chain
>after awhile someone tore the back door off with a truck. stole all the magic and the money from the snack cup
>landlord replaced the door and installed a couple heavy steel crossbars
>after awhile someone tore the back door off the empty store next door with a truck. broke through the drywall. stole all the magic and the money from the snack cup
>landlord replaced the other door and installed a couple heavy steel crossbars on the door in the empty shop and the door to the other shop next door to the game shop in the strip mall.
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>>97903673
>Post apocalypse open world game
If this combination of words doesn't make you shudder in cringe then you're a colossal faggot and probably a soilennial as well
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I got into a fight with a meta gamer right outside of our lgs because he didn't like the way I spoke, it's how I got over my fear of fighting people one on one
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>>97905125
gotta resell the stuff
money is easier
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>>97883190
>reading, sports, vidya are not hobbies
Shut up retard
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I went in to get some flock today instead of having to bother to paint sawdust again and every single table was filled with MTG players. This would be fairly normal, except they were also inbetween the tables sitting on the floors, and outside of the store in the mall on benches and the side of a fountain and in tables at nearby kiosks.

It must be like their Hajj season or something.
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>>97903530
lmfao it's just some light jabbing, nothing that actually hurts
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>>97906274
How was the smell?
Does an LGS that enforces a hygiene policy eventually lose money?
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>>97881539

The reason I won't go the store in play in public anymore. Such a disgrace. I grew up in the game store and now it's not an appropriate place for my kids.
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>>97875877

thank you for the laugh
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>>97908655
>Does an LGS that enforces a hygiene policy eventually lose money?
probably depends on the hygiene policy,
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>>97908655
>Does an LGS that enforces a hygiene policy eventually lose money?
Nta, my experience its a even trade depending on how you do it. One crowd pushes out the other. There is one store I know of locally that actively enforces hygiene. In the end it doesn't have 90 fat smelly guys buying fistfuls of $1-$5 mtg singles. Instead they have stem/tech normie hipsters buying up $60+ board games. Catering to the hipster crowd let the store thrive without touching mtg. I always get a laugh when a game company did a demo/event at the store as they would always comment that the store had the cleanest bathroom they ever seen at a LGS. It wasn't all hipsters, anyone that knew what soap is was welcome. I took advantage of the 10%-15% off 40k there.
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>>97903172

owner of a game store can't handle bants but sells DnD trying to act like queer culture is wholesome and fine for my kids.
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>>97908893

The fat anit-social freaks that hang out at games stores aren't good source of income. They spend like $20-30/wk to sit there hours every day and keep people out.

meanwhile board gamers, war gamers, some older more professional dnd players will drop hundreds a quarter on the slow release for their game and paints and only be there 1-2 times a week.

This is happening now with the lgbtq, families that would drop $2-300 and train the next gen of fans aren't going near stores anymore.
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>>97908655
I can only describe it as "muggy"
It was a muggy smell. You could feel it as much as smell it.
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>>97876351
Are you some sort of deformed and hunched store goblin kept behind the unsold Eurogames for the entertainment of the actual customers?
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The only one guy banned in my local LGS that I know of was a Kill Team tournament player who would volunteer for the introduction games for new players. He would roll in with his sweaty meta comp, crush the newbie, and then deliver some cringy line like ''heh, you don't have what it takes to play this game, pal''. He actively turned people away so the owner told him to piss off.
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>>97909494
There is only one guy I knew locally that got banned from a LGS, it was due to going mental. The guy had a glazed eye schizo melty which was the last straw for the owner. The guy already did 6 involuntary stents at a funny farm. It was considered tragic as the guy was known as one of the greatest GMs in the area, but ended up on a downward spiral of mental illness. The other downer to the community was he owned a lot of rare, desirable, and valuable books. When he was institutionalized for the third time his Mom threw all his gaming stuff away as "Satan and gaming was the reason her Son was losing his mind".
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I have a friend who got our local store in trouble with Yugioh's organizational officials a few years back because they'd want pictures to show the store was actually doing events like they said they were and in each and every one of them he was always wearing the same shirt, pants, hat, and shoes so they accused the store of faking pictures when he was just a lazy slob with three shirts, one pair of pants, one hat, and one pair of shoes.
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My LGS went under after the owner sunk all his savings into creating a tabletop wargame alongside with my at the time DM. The owner came to the new gameshop my group migrated to in order to threaten that DM over money. After that we lost a series of game shops during the covid so now we just play at one of the group members house. The closest gameshop to me now is a retail shop that sells MTG and board games and has a half-empty shelf of army-builder paints.
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>>97870168
Yes
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I like my LGS, they have weekly games for warhammer, MTG stuff too.
Shame I just got into 40k and I have a lot of work to do in order to have a proper army
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>>97870043
That chart looks more like people start healthy and after HS they start bloating. I don't think zoomers have better food options or a healthier eating culture.
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have you ever been to an LGS that banned (or created a hostile environment towards troons that succeeded in keeping them away)?
how did they do it? was it nice?
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>>97880688
I think a lot of people are deeply uncurious about the things they do. I run games in a medium discord server, big for a non-5e exclusive one. There are regularly people not following the very basic channel instructions about what goes where, and reacting angrily or even leaving when told that it's done a certain way because it's what works (post this way so the inter-server bots picks the game, post here so people see it, don't spam to anounce the game, very basic shit). In the last year I saw three discussions about how to make new users act rationally and all the changes haven't made too much of a difference.

People start something, assume they know best about something they just started, and get really mad when corrected. Not just zoomers, because I can totally see a 14 year old acting that way, I saw at least two dudes in their 50's make a scene in a general chat because the moderator in his 20's asked them to act civilized.

Then you have what other people said, every scalper thinks he's the smart one. But a ton of actual businesses start with no clue about the market, so I still lean towards people being generally retarded.
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>>97909325
They like to poke me in my little cage and make me dance for chips and soda
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>>97865302
>meanwhile some guy who thinks he's cool is rolling up a cigarette near the fire exit
How do you know he wasn't cool?
Did you check?
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>>97906226
Sports are hobby if you play. If you just watch, they're a pastime.
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>>97911539
Nope. Every one I've stepped foot in has been banning the kind of people who'd use the word 'troon', even if they were big spenders or offered the owners 3D printing services.

Helps build community. Encourages people to come to the store more often. Ends up being worth it in the end despite the initial financial hit.
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>>97865264
>uddenly, all the criticisms the whiny SJWs make sense about the hobby; look at all those fat, slovenly nerds.
????
their problem wasn't that nerds are fat, slovenly and ugly my nigga the fuck are you saying here.
the man is a faggot we don't need to pivot to politics.
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>>97865220
My LGS is a divebar for gamers
great community but dingy,
they kicked the warhammer players out and we found a metric fuckton of stolen shit in their storage area.
just saying
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>>97911680
>Helps build community. Encourages people to come to the store more often.
>akshually, pandering to 0.1% of the customers at the expense of 20% creates more business.
that's obvious nonsense. shut up, troon. my lgs had to ban all discussions about politics because their one single trans customer couldn't stop having melties about it and scaring everyone else away. by the time they finally got rid of the spastic autismo nearly half of their regulars had organized game nights at someone's house and started buying cheap 3d printed shit off temu. they have yet to come back to the store and it's likely going to go under before long. once people invest in a home setup they're not going to come to the store to spend money they don't have to just to have their night ruined by an autistic troon's self-righteous tantrums.
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>>97870168
>Millennial women are overweight.
>This is bad?
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>>97870043

People under 25 have insane metabolisms. Speaking as an unc there's probably other medical issues at play if you meet a fat college girl. I mean, date who you want but it's definitely a consideration if you want kids someday or don't want to go broke from medical bills.

>>97913433

I've broken dry spells with overweight friends and exes and there's a lot of gross issues people don't even think about that the overweight models and convention attention whores managed to dodge. Stretch marks for instance. And rashes, odors, and skin tags accumulating in places where two folds of skin are pressed together. Extra body hair from their hormone levels being messed up(I actually like bush and armpit hair but not mustaches and stomach hair on women).
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>>97913433
>this is bad?
Yes, it's bad. She's a Pump-and-Dump at most,
due to obvious exhibitionism / narcissism, and she
will probably just gain more weight as she gets older.
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>>97911680
>>97912406
I have noticed some odd shit about game stores and transfakers /
transvestites / femboys.
In 2022, EVERY GAMESTORE in an 80 mile stretch of metropolis had at
least one Trans-like employee at their store. It was way too consistent to
be just a trend, it's like a group of them went out specifically to get hired
and occupy the spot.
And i'm talking 14 different game stores...

The rainbow tribe is seriously out to invade and take over this hobby.
...and yes, this is on-topic, it's a Game Store thread on /tg/
>friggin' censorship brigade
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>>97913587

I don't think it's a conspiracy or anything. Just alienation. They have a sense of wrongness stemming factors like autism and too much screen time which gets channeled into the trans thing. It also gives them a premade group of friends, culture, lingo, etc just like a religion or subculture would have in the past.

If you think about it, game stories are some of the last third spaces standing. Big chain coffee houses are now drive thru only or have purposefully uncomfortable furniture. Malls are dying. Concerts now cost several hundred dollars to go to. Some little record store or other hobby business wouldn't be able to pay the artificially high rent imposed by private equity. And then you still have this little game store open 7 days a week selling escapism to people who desperately need it.
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>>97913611
Don't tell anybody the secret, but public libraries are extremely comfortable places to work, read or study. My local library has become a third place for me
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>>97911539
I wonder this too. It's a necessity bc they are hurting sales but the stores can't do anything obvious which is f-ed.

My local store lost myself and my family, older war gamers, 2 other families I used to go with to get our kids together, and home school pod that was probably up to 8 families less regulary.

Me and the war gamers are the type to spend $200 bucks at the store instead of $160 online too. While they gained some mentally ill degenerates that saved up to buy a d20.

1 fucking d20, not a set, not a game, just the dice.

It's just not fair to businesses. Guy had a full board game store and let people pay $7 do use games from his library all day. Was a great family product, just ripped away.
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LGS Phenotype Archive: The Redditior

>Top 1% poster on the D&D subreddit
>"Hey guys as long as we're having fun, the rules don't matter"
>Will relentlessly chide the DM for not letting him play a homebrew class
>Thinks the height of roleplaying consists of making the funniest joke at the table
>Furiously white-knights both women and anyone he deems "marginalized" from "problematic" content
>Is the subject of horror stories without realizing it
>Hopelessly unoriginal, takes cues from actual plays
>Voracious consoomer of DnDTube. Loves XPtoLevel3, BobWorldBuilder, etc
>Thinks Brennan Mulligan is the "best DM out there" and takes cues from his style
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>>97914860
LGS Phenotype Archive: The Knitter

>Usually older, often in her 40's
>Married to a grognard who spends most of his time playing Pathfinder
>Spends her time between turns knitting or crocheting
>Generally quiet, matronly type. "Party Mom"
>Surprisingly good roleplayer at times, prefers to avoid combat focused games
>Enjoys board game nights
>Will bring cookies
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>>97914865
LGS Phenotype Archive: the Character Builder

>"Hey so I have this idea for a build..."
>Despises character "arcs" or story. Backstory non-existent
>Chases his next "epic moment" like a heroin fix
>Routinely peruses websites for the next "broken" build
>"So this build is called "the Darkblade Seer" It's three levels of Rogue, two levels of Warlock, 4 levels of barbarian..."
>Chases the dragon of an "ultimate build" but never has the patience to endure a campaign long enough to finish it
>"Hey DM can we try an epic level campaign starting at level 16?"
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LGS Phenotype Archive: the Loud Girl

>Loud hair, louder mouth
>An LA 3, NY 4 and LGS 9
>Overly flirtatious with other women in the LGS. Very "Yass queen". Secretly despises them
>Loves the attention she gets from the Redditors, might even string one along. Furiously protected by them
>Always asks to "guest DM", tries running exclusively out of Journeys through the Radiant Citadel
>Ginni Di wannabe
>Uses Gen Z slang "in character". Taps her fingernails together to indicate amusement.
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Two main ones from mine were:

>After overhearing me make a comment about the price hikes of 40k kits to my friend, a mouth-breathing milquetoast chubster in a sweater vest inserts himself into the conversation to say: “You want the models to be cheaper? Get more people into the hobby.” I was legit blown away he wasn’t joking.

>Random dude dropped off his child to run around the store while he went off and did… something. Genuinely couldn’t tell the gender or the race of the thing, but it kept getting way too close to the boards, and even started touching my friend’s models. My buddy asked it to stop and it just angrily stared at him without saying anything for a solid 30 seconds before he ran off.
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LGS Phenotype Archive: the Queer

>The only person in the LGS louder than Loud Girl
>Routinely hits on straight men for fun
>Borderline rapey vibes
>Every character arc is coded in anti-capitalism or queer theory
>Never plays a human. Tiefling or animal-person almost exclusively
>Insists on neopronouns in character. No, it doesn't matter if you are playing a setting inspired in real world 2nd century Rome
>Redditor seeks validation that they are good people by befriending the Queer
>When allowed to choose a game it will be PbtA such as Monsterhearts
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>>97914890
Woof, seen this one before. Very accurate, anon.
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LGS Phenotype Archive: the Crust

>Loves the "indy RPG scene"
>Prefers his RPGs to be nearly 90% art and 10% rules
>Unironically runs Apocalypse World
>Loved Zack S before the rape controversy
>PNW asthetic and trend driven: this extends to his RPGs
>Somehow incredibly elitist about his terrible taste
>Will reference his extremely esoteric blog scene
>Occasionally comes up with creative ideas, but is utterly insufferable
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LGS Phenotype Archive: the Lonely Grog

>Usually here with his kid. If it's a girl they are playing 5e. If it's a boy they are playing magic
>Desperately longs for an AD&D group, but nobody wants to play it
>Thousand yard stare from the inability to capture the magic of the late 80's early 90's
>Has dozens of stories of old characters and campaigns from years past
>Trapped playing 5e, if forced to play he tries to play Curse of Strahd
>Satisfies his thirst for mechanics by paying PF2e, but just doesn't love it
>Excellent roleplayer and problem solver at table
>Loyal and will always show up on time in spite of having a full time job and children to raise
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LGS Phenotype Archive: the "Cool" MtGer

>Beloved by the store owner as he's 40% of the operating revenue
>Always talking about "drafts" "events" "etc"
>When not wearing band shirts he unironically wears a team jersey for his MtG team
>Thousands of dollars in cardboard debt
>Unable to play anything but Magic
>Thinks that because he doesn't smell that he's in any way sociable or likable (he isn't)
>Often caught screaming about being targeted by other players during commander night (would end the game with his broken ass combos if he wasn't)
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LGS Phenotype Archive: the Yu-Gi-Oh player

>Black, Asian, or hopelessly autistic (usually all of the above)
>Considers themselves, inexplicably, superior to other card game players
>Exhaustive memorization of mechanics, game state changes, and card statuses
>Is able to speak complete sentences entirely in game terminology and game vernacular
>Laughs at esoteric YGO memes
>Unable to maintain eye contact with anyone not on spectrum unless...
>If black, absolutely bullies other YGO players including physical threats
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>>97914927
This is all I got for now. Interested in collecting these phenotypes for later.

>>97914906
Thanks
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My LGS is neat and I've been going there for a very long time, only issue is that it's completely slanted towards netlists and competitive play to the point where even crusade leagues are just netlists. Nice place anyway.
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>>97866858
I used to go to an actual Warhammer store, and usually just hang out and paint, because the regulars there were just good folk. Fun way to spend an afternoon.
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Great effort posting

>>97914860
>XPtoLevel3, BobWorldBuilder

god I hate these channels

>>97914915

Literally me.

Has anyone else always seen,

>the normal good looking who just wants to do dungeon crawls and obstacles like he is looking for engineering problems?
>Is probably looking for something closer to war gaming or board games but they aren't open ended enough for problem solving?
>All the women flirt with him and he has never sad anything to the queer, so the reddit guy absolutely seethes when he shows up?
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>>97915193

that formatting come out wonky. I'm literally the grognard not the bro gamer.

The bro gamer pic is from here years ago that caused a bunch of seething so I thought was funny.
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>>97881400
>everyone i don't like is le blue haired barista
you can see the fat retard in the picture, anon. he's /yourguy/.
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>>97865220
>pokemon scalper
>dressed in rags
Is this a recession indicator?
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>>97914865
I need to marry this woman
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>>97914925
I work with two of these guys. They will talk about the fucking MtG meta and new expansions for hours without pause. They're annoying and they smell weird, and I wish I was dead whenever i have to deal with them.
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My LGS had a dude disappear. Like completely off the grid. His ex-girlfriend tried to shoot him, so he packed up all his shit and disappeared one night. No one's heard from him since.
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>>97915052
There was a time, not so long ago it feels, when the Warhammer stores had plenty of tables and felt inviting to come and hang out in.

Nowadays it just… doesn’t feel the same…
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>>97865220
>On second thought, let's not. Tiss' a silly place.
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>>97913515
>don't want to go broke from medical bills
I knew a fat chick and this is super accurate. I've been to a doctor maybe twice in my adult life, but this chick goes there so often that she genuinely considers her doctor a friend and they tell each other all about their families. Where the fuck do they get all the money to go so often?
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Got a story from my first time going to an lgs
>got a friend that got into yugioh
>he successfully pressured me into getting into it as well
>decide to go to an lgs by myself so I can get the people there to help me out and surprise my friend with whatever deck I get
>go to the front counter to explain my conundrum
>before he gets a word out a fat dude in a baby blue polo and a fedora speaks up from his table saying he can help me out
>he looks like the genuine article, I could imagine seeing his ass crack at a card tournament
>tell him I have no experience in yugioh
>he asks if I have experience with any card games
>tell him I occasionally participate in poker tournaments and place somewhat highly
>dude scoffs at that and says "well yugioh is an actually complex card game with yada yada yada"
>keeps talking about how there isn't a six of diamonds
>REALLY wants me to know there isn't a six of diamonds in particular
>goes into a never ending diatribe about the current meta and the booster packs I should be buying and such
>and seriously, there is no six of diamonds
>after an hour long lecture (I was looking at the clock) I say "okay... So I'll go ahead and look for those card packs"
>"Oh you won't find those here, you're better off buying them online from a reseller"
>guy behind the counter looks like he's contemplating turning this guy into a blood eagle for ruining a sale
>buy a shitty keychain and leave
>don't get into yugioh
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>>97915302
Nerds aren't known for knowing how to dress themselves
But yes.
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>>97914927
LMAO I will say it's a bit inaccurate for black YGO players. They can maintain eye contact. That's it. The rest is accurate, they are fucking aggressive both physically and vocally.
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>>97915812
it's covid. post-covid tables don't feel nearly as inviting. they're either on their own doing their own shit/waiting for more people or they are already with their group. socializing is unironically a thing of the past unless you play smaller tcgs or smaller wargames like warcrow.
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>>97865696
It's not the local yu-gi-oh scene, anon. My store in VA banned the fuckers too.
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>>97908655
NTA, either but this anon>>97908893 is spot on. My LGS instituted a hygeine policy and actively started banning retards so now it's known as the store for 'adults who have jobs and high functioning spergs'.
Meanwhile the other store in the area has now devolved into 'Nurgle's unwashed asshole' because all of the people too incompetent or disgusting to wash themselves have spread the word that their kind are welcome there.
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>>97914865
Grognard = Pathfinder?

Not like AD&D 1st Edition or DCC?

17 year old anon thinks Pathfinder's old school.
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>>97916141
>LMAO I will say it's a bit inaccurate for black YGO players. They can maintain eye contact,
that anon does say, Unless their black with the eye contact thing
>unless...if black,
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The issue we have in the UK is that under the Equality Act 2010 you can't turn people away from the shop just for being retarded.

What this means in practice is that lots of game shop owners will put up with one or two people who will make the experience actively worse for everyone else there because they're too worried about the kid’s mother phoning the police.

Often as a customer you have to directly say to them yourself “No, you can't play. Now please go away or I will force you to leave.” Which yeah sounds insanely harsh but most parents/guardians of these autistic people know full well what they're like in public but allow them to go to the shop unsupervised anyway. I'm perfectly happy to play with high energy autistic kids but that should be something I choose to do, not something that's forced upon me.

Most people over the age of 25 that have spent time touching grass know how to behave around others. It's just a shame that these game shops won't run a dad's gaming night or something so I can actually meet normal gamers my own age.
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>>97916650
Sounds like you need a club mate and not fucking Geek Retreat or whatever
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>>97916704
There are no clubs in the UK (that I've seen) that don't function around a discord server that only play online or through a LGS directly.

Even with a club you have to wade through the greasey web of 14 year olds playing Warhammer to just to find RPG players. Whilst all the adults wonder if your a pedo.
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>>97916613
You aren't wrong that AD&D and DCC are more apt. However, most of the older nerds cannot find (or refuse to run) those games. PF2e games classically have half the table over the age of 55
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>>97914902
>Borderline
Don't try to give faggots dignity
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>>97916762
>... cannot find (or refuse to run) those games.
Talking about people over the age of 55 not being able to "find" AD&D?

Grognard doesn't mean age.
Grognard means someone who refuses to play anything other than Gygaxian roleplaying games.

Why would a Grognard play PF2nd (the game is basically a high fantasy feat collector) over say even the first edition which is basically 3.5 D&D?

I reckon that you have experience with someone over 30 who ran PF2nd and now thinks Grognard means that.
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>>97916141
>Unable to maintain eye contact with anyone not on spectrum unless...
>If black, absolutely bullies other YGO players including physical threats

>unless...
>If black

No, he said the black ones can maintain eye contact
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>>97916830
>>97916628
Shit I can't read! Then it's completely accurate. Why does YGO have a grasp on the hood?
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>>97917486
It aired on non-cable channels/back when cable was cheap.
Cards were available in non-LGS spaces like Walmart where poorer families shop.
Shonen anime is crass and appeals to crass people.
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>Be me
>Move to new city in 2022
>City has a military base, local game scene might be good
>Was getting kinda burnt out on Warhammer at the time and Battletech has caught my attention
>Ask around, find out one of the stores near my house supports it
>Go there
>Giant fucking mural of a Free Worlds League Atlas on the wall
>LGS owner is a big Battletech enjoyer, has the best stock of it I've ever seen
>Battletech doesn't see much play despite his efforts
>Hmmmm
>Decide to fix this
>Start recruiting. Post on facebook, create a discord for the group. Get in touch with a longtime group in town.
>Decide to host Mech Mondays to get the local community aligned on the same night
>I run demo games every other week minimum to get new people onboard
>It works
>Three years later, LGS has the biggest and best battletech scene I've ever heard of. 20+ people showed up for campaign night two weeks ago, we had four tables running simultaneously as we recreate the Ghost Bear invasion of Rasalhague
>Battletech genuinely crowds out other games on Mondays, we're running out of room to share with the Halo Flashpoint guys.
Life is good, anons. Life is good.
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>>97916797
I know what grognard means. I know why they play PF2e. Argue with a wall.
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>>97865349
You're just mad because your mom doesn't let you.
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>>97917879
Care to share your workings with the class?
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>>97916650
On top of that, there are parents that see game shops as babysitters
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The other day I tried going to an LGS to try out Grimdark Future with their display minis to see if my friends actually enjoyed wargames; they like 40K lore thanks to loretubers. I hadn't been there since 2021. The precise reason I went there was I saw their mask policy was "Masks optional with proof of vaccination." By the time I got there, though, the policy had changed to "Masks and vaccination required, the unvaccinated need not apply," and I realized that my J&J jab was not the beginning of better times.

Turned out there was a tournament going on, no tables available. That's on me.

But what bothered me was that all the employees were still wearing masks. In the year of our lord 2026. Along with 20% of the MtG-and-board-games upstairs clientele. No masks among the wargamers.

Also, the entire staff was trans for some reason. But the main thing I hated was the masks.
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>>97916613
>>97916797
>Grognard means someone who refuses to play anything other than Gygaxian roleplaying games.

Wrongo.

It's a re-use of the napoleonic 'Grognard', which means old grumbler.
Historical Wargames
OSR
OldHammer
Battletech (a true Coelacanth of a game)
Even pauper old-frame MtG would qualify.

I dunno where you fucks get your bad definitions from, but I have seen the old grumblers
pick up new games like Flames of War, One Ring, Star Trek Adventures, and Call of Cthulhu 7th.

PF2 makes sense as it's less fucked than 5e or 5.5e
They just don't like dumbed down shit or rainbow sparkledogs.
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>>97920512
>Also, the entire staff was trans for some reason.

>>97913587
>In 2022, EVERY GAMESTORE in an 80 mile stretch of metropolis had at least one Trans-like employee at their store.

Wow, it's like things just keep adding up....
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>>97920520
Why do I get the feeling this the same guy I was arguing with before now posing as someone new?

Hey, you know whatever you kids want to redefine what a term means you go for it. It's only been something my generation has been saying since the 80's. I suppose time moves on and this hobby has a particularly bad memory when it comes to anything older than the 2000's.

I'm off consider this a win for you I guess.
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>>97920512
Trannies still wear masks because it allows them to hide their manjaws and help them convince themselves their women. I don't mind it because I don't want to see their ugly freakshit faces at all. I literally avoid FLGS that have trannies in my area.
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>>97916527
I don't have a job right now and I smell better than 2 of the fat fags at FLGS who worked for investment companies and had way more money than me.

>>97916104
Good Yu-Gi-Oh is shit and that fat autist would have been a recurring theme in your life if you had gotten into it.

>>97916042
They have a father or husband with really good medical insurance.
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>>97920691
Unfortunately, trannies and tranny-fanciers/boosters are omnipresent in my area; I live in the hipster neighborhood of Chicago, and trannies have utterly consumed the place.

I see maskies every day, they're always either a tranny, or a frumpy chick with frizzy dyed-grey/teal hair.

>>97920534
Apparently once one gets in, they start to proliferate. I tried going to a volunteer clean-up-the-park thing, and all the organizers were trannies. The one biological woman in my group introduced herself with her she/her pronouns.

I was there because I was told volunteering was a good way to meet women. Fuck my life, and all that.
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>>97921058

what the f- is the profile of people wearing masks still? Like damn are they mentally ill, weak willed, did lockdowns give them something?

it's like someone in 1951 still scrapping and rationing for the boys over seas in Europe.
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>>97916728
There's a club in my town (Stourbridge, West Midlands) that operates out of a church hall.
Open one night a week, three pound a week fee, which goes towards maintaining the hall and common equipment.
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>>97875877
This is exactly why games go out of their way to just call them Germans.
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>>97921914
I'm not quite sure, my theories aren't based on actual interviews with these people, just what they say (online) and other things I've observed, since I really don't want to have an IRL conversation on the subject, it'll just be proof to them that I'm a bad person.

The Ugly / Trannies; it's an excuse to cover their faces, at this point, Taking Covid Seriously is just motivated reasoning to keep masking, as >>97920691 said

During covid, after some initial wobbling, it was arrived at that Taking Covid Seriously = [Leftist/Just Being a Good Person/Saving Lives], with an exception of course made for protesting racism. Only bad people/republicans/racists don't wear masks. Therefore, as good people, they must wear masks, and they just kept a death grip on the idea to this day.

Also, just avoiding/averting illness in general became a Cause; I saw one chick I knew (she was young and a conventionally hot leftist, not a turbo-queer NB they/them) in early 2021 talking about how great it would be if everyone kept wearing masks for forever, because then flu season would be less bad and slightly fewer people would die of the flu. I'm not actually sure if current-day maskies are only worried about COVID, or they're worried about communicable diseases in general. They didn't before (beyond a general excess of social conscientiousness, they were probably also the type to get flu shots every year), but I guess their Awareness was Raised.
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>>97923450
During COVID, there was a lot of social pressure among the covid-conscious to not get sick; a lot of these people are urban and live with lots of roommates, and social pressure is the water they swim in. Only the people in your "Covid Bubble" are safe to interact with, everyone else is unclean, you don't know where they've been, they might have been going, gasp, outside (but not to protest. remember, Protesting is fine). Being the person who brought Covid into the bubble means that you sinned somehow. People were afraid of the social consequences moreso than the health consequences.

Others were trapped inside, alone, exposed to internet fear-mongering, and it plainly had a negative effect on their mental health.

Despite how bad it was for them, some people loved lockdown because they got to be comfy and lazy and had a nice cushy setup, and saw no reason why this state of affairs shouldn't continue, they'd say smug ominous things about how this was just going to be the new normal going forwards for forever, and they were totally okay with it. It was a trend, and these people never saw a trend they didn't chase. They have to be at the cutting edge of social progress to outcompete everyone else at being a visibly good person, get in on the ground floor. "I for one, support our new insect overlords" and all that.

This last bit comes from my observation at the time of a (former) friend who was a serial monogamist social climber; he had reconfigured his personality to be whatever was maximally appealing to college-educated affluent white women, so of course this meant he had had become a black gay communist. And he was all-in on masking. Not actually afraid of COVID, he just had no persona underneath the Childish Gambino skinsuit, so saying whatever he thought would put him ahead of the pack was cheap to him.
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>>97923537
Being a maskie has become a distinct subculture among Leftists; in the past three years I've never seen a maskie under the age of 40 who wasn't visibly gay, queer, trans, or a straight woman who identifies as a queer/gay/trans ally.

Some of them are just old people who are some combination of genuinely immuno-compromised and generally neurotic. I feel slightly bad for them, but they don't infuriate me the way young maskies do.
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>>97921914
>I will never jeopardize the beans

Holy shit lmao
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>>97917877
your happiness makes me happy
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>>97921914
I will occasionally wear one for the following reasons:
>I am sick but dammit I need to get this work done today. Enjoy listening to the miserable sounds of a slow and wet death emerging from my workspace for the next 9 hours, because I sure won't.
>It is cold outside and I lost my scarf again. It's also cold inside because I'm underneath a vent I can't close.
>Everyone else is sick but dammit I need to get this work done today. Please stop trying to shake my hand I can see your eyes are red and your nose is running.
They're a harbinger of misery but I feel a little less guilty about showing up to work sick when I wear one so what can you do.
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I sometimes wear a mask at work to cover the fact that I didn't have time to shave in the morning and look all scruffy.
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>>97920691
>>97923450
One important thing to know is that it is better to minimize interaction with anybody trans or queer at the LGS.
Especially when the LGS is your only place to get games going.

It is akin to risk mitigation.
No matter what you do eventually you will say something seemingly innocent that gets taken the wrong way, breathe wrong way or "give off a vibe" and that's it you're a bigot and on the road to being banned due to social politics involved. Even if the offended party had very clearly overreacted. It won't matter.

Maybe there are some that through communication will allow you to explain yourself so things get smoothed over but the chances of an offended sperg blowing things out of proportion that could mean you getting banned is too high so it is better to minimize interaction.

Learn how to make excuses to avoid them at the LGS.
But that's all down to whether you are good at making believable excuses. If you're the GM of a TTRPG session saying that you can't handle more players is pretty good.

Some will probably get the message that you're excluding them but hopefully they won't have the ability to get you banned as your excuses will be good enough that you'll be fine.
But as always the chance of one freaking is always present and the LGS manager will probably believe them over you even if you are clearly in the right because they can make social media posts that will damage the reputation of the shop and it risks losing money.

I don't even hate them. I just know that this is the best course of action because it is a small community and the chances of a bad apple in the barrel are too high so while the barrel may be in the same room you can avoid taking an apple from it because you don't want a bad one.
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>>97924837
fucking stellar post

>>97923556
>>97923537
>>97923450
Seriously? They are just keeping going for the hell of it?

>>97921058
>Apparently once one gets in, they start to proliferate.
I can confirm it's not just them. If there is any activist type, they will call upon their
little friends to join in as well. I mean, why not?
In the end, humans, of whatever stripe, still behave like humans.
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>>97920218
That's a global issue for sure. My local game store in Idaho has groups of 20 somethings that used to be 8-11 year old kids left at the game store after school got out each day to play Yugioh or Vanguard or whatever with their parents/guardians coming by to drop them off McDonalds or Jack In The Box around diner time and then leaving them there until an hour before closing. The only things that have changed are they've got a no outside food rule now since people kept making messes and taking up large amounts of table space with their fast food and the new groups of children are smaller since the store moved to a less central location that it used to be in which also had the upside of making it so less of the actually mentally ill people who were dumped off by their state appointed caregivers had to instead be at home getting proper care since it's too far away from their homes now.
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>>97925305
>Seriously? They are just keeping going for the hell of it?
I feel like it's partially a weeb thing. Japs were wearing masks even before the coof whenever they suffered slightest bit of cold symptoms out of politenes as to "not bother their surroundings" with sneezes and coughs.
Which, in and of itself, sounds like a sensible thing. Which gets mindlessly copied by weebs.
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>>97921914
The right man for her is out there, she's the only one who can protect his beans from that dog.
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>>97904948
Good for you, Anon.
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>>97914907
Holy fuck that looks just like my dad. Please tell me it wasn't taken in the UK.
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>>97927072
Why is your dad cooler than you?
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>>97870043
is obese here like morbidly obese (little car riding tier) or just over average BMI?
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>>97913433
>tattoos
I cannot grok this
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>>97921914

Can't speak for anyone else, but for me:

a) they're a cute fashion accessory.
b) I will forever be a weeb in remission, and they make me think of those delinquent girl fashions.
c) I have a skin condition. When I run short errands it saves having to put on a full face of makeup to cover it. I won't wear it though if I'm going to a social event, eg. tabletop night.
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>>97931472
>When I run short errands it saves having to put on a full face of makeup to cover it.
show bobs and vegene



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