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wow if you think about it citizenship should be earned the capellan way instead of given!
4/6/4 or 5/8?Or in more concrete terms, would you rather take a Timber Wolf or a Night Gyr on a long campaign?
What is something you consider an iconic match-up that most others probably wouldn't call iconic? For me, the Clans versus the Republic of the Sphere is a very iconic rivalry.I'm a (relative) newfag, and the Falcon's Desant, the Steel Wolves invasion of Terra, Clan Wolf's rampage across Republic space and so on are some of the first parts of BT I ever experienced. I love it, and it's the main reason I'm painting up an RAF army to fight my mate's clans.The Fidelis and Republic Remnant facing the Wolves on their march to Terra, which ended with the scuttling of the Flatus to kill the Clanners aboard, the Steel Wolves, RAF and Stormhammers fighting side by side against the Falcon's invasion of Skye, the Steel Wolves facing the Highlanders and RAF during their failed invasion of Terra, all of this IS Battletech to me.What's your unusual iconic match-up, anon?
>>97874571For the Confederacy.
The new celestials are going to be so fucking fat.
>>97874608grotesque
>>97874582Timber Wolf is boring and liked by predominately dull people. Night Gyr is more fun and the people who like it tend to be a entertainingly crazy.
>>97874646This but the much chadlier Nova Cat.
>>97874590the wobby's wobblemeat goonborg enhanched slutbitches vs my stud schmeat
The forces of Fortress Republic and the Republic Remnant fought one another? I thought that only happened once, when the Wall came down and the Fidelis turned on Redburn?
>>97874932Probably because the Remnant and Comstar were working together outside the Wall and Stone is a complete sperg.
>>97874590The Stoners were never rivals. They were a failed state dying quickly after the Blackout. It was so bad, they had to make the Wall because the authors had no idea how to drag out their death any further without magical bullshit. They literally had no idea how the Wall would actually work when they invented it.
>>97874959>>97874924I'm going to assume you think you're in some way funny and thus also assume you are a retard.
Uh...anons?
>>97874976The fuck does any of that have to do with anything I said you inbred jew?
>>97874978Mine was an honest answer. Stone was a vengeful retard. You ever look at his Eruptio targets? He was off to punish the fucking Senate Alliance instead of securing key systems. Then thinking he could coerce the Wolves after literally watching what happened when the Lyrans tried that trick for the last fifteen years and nearly destroyed themselves.
>>97874959>Probably because the Remnant and ComstarNo? Poor bait.
>>97874985Rivalries are among equals or at least two sides with a chance to win. RotS never did anything but get beat on and lose. It's like saying the hogs are classic clanner rivals and not a speedbump.
>>97874995>No?Where's Remnant headquarters and where's Comstar outside the Wall headquarters, mansly? Who was asking for Comnguard help during the 3135 RotS civil war? What rogue paladin was the reason for all of Comstar under the Wall getting nationalized and was that after the Remnant got sent out?
>>97874997That still has literally nothing to do with my post? You're an actual retard.
>>97875002Retarded headcanon, bait or sheer stupidity. Call it.
>>97875004You're the literal retard if you can't understand that the comment is Stoners were never rivals to anyone. That's what you called it, though. You could have used the word matchup or fight, but you didn't. So you're getting made fun of. It's not the answer you wanted, but it's certainly relevant to your post.
>>97875012So, you're just trolling now...or you've never actually read the Dark Age material.
>>97875017>You could have used the word matchup or fight, but you didn't>What is something you consider an iconic match-up that most others probably wouldn't call iconic?>What's your unusual iconic match-up, anon?Ok buddy.So anyway, the RotS vs the Clans is a very iconic rivalry to me. Tell me, what's your unusual iconic match-up/rivalry, anon? :)
>>97875026I've read all of the Dark Age sourcebooks and a ton of the books. ComStar are not involved with the Remnant at all, my lil baiter.
When a mech loses an arm, is there a roll you have to do to see if it's usable as a club? Or is that always the case?Can you pick up your own arm to use as a club?
>>97875038Sure, it's just a coincidence that they set up shop on the same world for their capital. I'm sure the ruling regime protecting them from clanners and both working on fixing the blackout that destroyed everything for both of them would never have any impact on relations. Just because Comstar didn't have any military forces, doesn't mean they weren't a player.
>>97875058>Gets called out>Y-yeah? Well still! My headcanon says this! No I've no proof!Lmfao i accept your concession, you dumbass.
>>97874978I genuinely felt hornymmm wobbly wobbiepillowsi will settle for an elemental muscle mommy though
>>97875052>Can you pick up your own arm to use as a club?No, because Kerensky forbids it.
>>97874590Thematically? Manei Domini VS Society, of course. The schizo madtech IS vs the schizo madtech Clan. Society designs are mechanically better but Manei Domini are better pilots. One day I'll finish my Society stuff and manage to suffer through it. >>97874924Please, anon. The fact that some of us are into cyborg women make some people uncomfortable, let's avoid triggering some anons. Discipline.
>>97875073The we never got anything to do with the Domin and Society interacting is a fucking crime
>>97874590The Word of Blake vs the Com Guard/ComStar is most iconic thing in all of BT to me because I was introduced to the game with the ComStar and Fall of Terra sourcebooks.
Canonize LRADs
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>97875064In the interest of honesty, I went back and dug around. In Sword of Sedition, they're working together basically because Comstar owns Australia. Ariana describes their relationship outside the Wall as tense in ER:3145, so probably not holding hands. They're not at each other's throats like under the Wall but more politely ignoring each other as both organizations die. McKinnon wouldn't like that (Target of Opportunity and Bonfire of Worlds), but he doesn't have much say out there, and Stone sacks him as soon as he wakes up. We're never told what for, but probably him running all his own little ops outside Levin's purview.
>>97875097>Give the mech Hips>what? why?>Hot
>>97875103
How is MegaMek's RNG? Does it roughly match your experiences at actual tables? Or have you had crazy things constantly happen only in MegaMek that you've never seen IRL?
>>97875026I'll just take a ton of flak ammo on every mech with an AC, mg's and flamers are worthless.
>>97875170A wise choice until CGL gets their heads out of their asses and finally rounds down infantry damage again.
>>97875052Any arm lost to destruction of the corresponding side torso or any limb lost to the 'blown off' result on a critical hit check is usable as a club. A 'mech can't use it's own arm as a club because using a club requires two functioning shoulder and hand actuators.
>>97875140
>>97875169Megamek does this weird thing pretty often when it makes the same kind of roll, it has way more of the exact same result than should be statistically-likely. Say you fire 5 medium lasers and they'll all roll 6. Otherwise, it's pretty good.
>>97875178CGL doesn't exist on my table.
>>97875186I think he just wants to perform the EZ-8 maneuver.
>>97875196I noticed that there's multiple settings for RNG, has what you describe only been with the default?
>>97875210Yeah, I've only ever played with the default.
>>97875200t. has no table
>>97875224Unlike you, I don't live in mom's basement.
>>97875200IIRC the anti-infantry properties of flak is a CGL rule?
>>97875188
>>97875205That's fair. While the base rules don't allow for one-handed clubs, the Slugger Special Pilot Ability does, so it can be done with campaign rules or character cards.
>>97875200Why would CGL, as an entity, be localized entirely within the confines of your table?
>>97875254The company is just that small, a literal who with only enough product to prop up a convention booth that relies on kickstarter for funding.
you ever play a game and realize after going home that you broke the rules and nobody noticed?last weekend i got distracted and did a kick and rolled on the normal hit location table instead of the kick location table and nobody noticed. i got an arm hit for free. i still feel dirty
>>97875264Really?! Only enough product to fill the booth at a convention? How have they survived for the last 19 years conducting business this way?
>>97874976>The interstellar nation with hundreds of worlds and some of the most advanced and powerful military tech in the Sphere is too weak to be rival of the Falcons or WolvesTrying Too Hard
>>97875301>Literally 3 regiments of actual mechs in 3135.
>>97875274Dude, they can't even fulfill kickstarter backer rewards.
>>97875314Not even kickstarter rewards?
>>97875267I forget to add movement heat sometimes. Isn't that something they're changing?
>>97875267No, I get called out immediately when I fuck up. I numb the shame at home.
>>97875312>literally a lorelet
>>97875335>3 governors and the senate break off in less than 3 years after the blackout, taking all that with them>only 25 regiments of machines after 10 years under the Wall with the full might of Terra and Prefecture X unmolested for a decade>b-but RISC Yuh huh, you lorelett.
>>97875320>we will refund you because we can't make enough mats.and>where's muh mercs box?
>>97875354God, it feels good to have been 1st wave rewards.
>>97875342>>97875312>THEY DON'T HAVE A BILLION MILLION MECHS IN THE DARK AGE>Basically no one has many mechs in the Dark Age?>THEY DIDN'T MAKE A BILLION MILLION MECHS WHEN THE FORTRESS WAS CREATED!>Basically no one could make a load of mechs in the Dark Age. Also, the made new Battle Armour, Super Heavies, Vehicles->SHUT UP! MECHS ONLY! >The Dark Age was mostly combined-arms focused due to a lack of mechs.>SHUT UP!
>>97875359>>Basically no one has many mechs in the Dark Age?Stoners have less than half the machines of the surrounding states after rebuilding for more than a decade. The Fedsuns after getting most of their army glassed at Palmyra have more machines than the Stoners.
>>97875354They're refunding Battletech mats?
>>97875359>Everyone has basically 1 mech batt to the regiment>Stoners still less than half most statesKek
nta but anyone who looks at BT numbers and believes them is a drooling non-white. There isn't a House, Clan or Periphery nation in all of BT with enough military forces to hold even a 10th of its territory
>>97875381When a major state has less mechs than Wolf's Dragoons, you can draw some fucking conclusions.>What? The disarmament faction disarmed? No way!
>>97875371>>97875366>MMMMEEEEECHHHHS!!!>The Dark Age is probably the BT era with the least focus on mechs. It's focused on combined arms. The RotS have advanced BA, aerospace, vehicles, and what mechs it did have were highly advanced, they even had Super Heav->MECHS!!!!!!>Anon->MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEECCCCCHHHHSSSSS!(You)
Read Starving Vultures from Shrapnel Issue 13. Very depressing to show how bad it is living in a planet that's soon to be removed in star charts (I do hope Jim McCullough and Kate Mulligan keep to their happy ending). I must ask (which I asked before): is it not possible to find a system removed from a star chart for resources that people stopped acquiring?It's mentioned in that short story that Bamburgh, where the story was set, had nickel deposits no one in the Inner Sphere wanted to buy from anymore (Kate telling Jim that there were untapped deposits in other planets in the Crucis March and that those who bought from the mining companies in Bamburgh opted to buy from those untapped deposits). Is it not possible for someone from the Inner Sphere with enough money to try to find Bamburgh and gain access to the abandonned nickel post-2864 as that was when it was removed from star charts?
>>97875397You're purposefully ignoring that the proportion of mechs to everything else is consistent. Mechs are about 1/3 of total forces in the Early DA. The Stoners did nothing but lose and die without their Wall because they didn't have the forces, never did. Also, just checked FM:3145. 28 total regiments of forces. 19 regiments 2 batts of mechs. Wooo weee.
>>97875398>is it not possible to find a system removed from a star chartAndurien dropped off some early star charts but re-appeared later, so anything's possible if that generation-haunting horror show could make a comeback.
>>97875381For what it's worth, the canon regiments are the big major players that can be moved around from world to world. On planet militias and royal guard are going to be less interesting. Conventional infantry, locally produced trucks, Scorpions and Vedettes bought in bulk. Maybe a lance of busted-ass heirloom mechs they pull out as last resort and/or for parades. Then you've got the countless solo, lance, and company scale commands floating around. Corporate Security teams, so on and forth. There's a lot more than is listed, but the stuff that gets listed are the movers and shakers of the setting.
>>97875423Ironically, this is already accounted for with Stoners in the Republican Guard because they were so ant-private ownership, and those are noted as depleted after the Early DA fighting. They did also nationalize all their mercs under the Wall so fucked that as well.
>>97875415>Also, just checked FM:3145. 28 total regiments of forces. 19 regiments 2 batts of mechs.>THERE'S NO MECHS IN THE MECHLESS ERA! AAAAAH! HELP ME FASA I'M GOING INSANE! AAAAH!
>>97875416> if that generation-haunting horror show could make a comeback.Well now I’m curious. What happened on Andurien?
>>97875436Canopian Whores and Dragon things.
>>97875436Some of the earliest atrocities between the young FWL and the Capellan Commonality, small potatoes compared to what would happen later but at the time was pretty hardcore.
>>97875398>is it not possible to find a system removed from a star chart for resources that people stopped acquiring?Yes, but unless you have a good idea of where you should look for it you're essentially going to be blindly jumping into random most likely uninhabited systems, which given that you need to spend roughly a week between each jump to recharge the KF drive most wouldn't bother with. If you manage to find some documentation that give you a good idea where the system should be you may be able to narrow it down a lot, and if you get your hands on an old starchart that still shows the location of the system finding it becomes trivial.
>>97875499And I take it a lot of pre-2864 star charts that listed systems like Bamburgh and Szepes (I bring that system up because after finishing the Stacks duology a month ago, I find it baffling that many in the Inner Sphere gave up on Szapes' limestone deposits given how rebuilding structures destroyed in the fighting will need limestone; I refer to the short stories Breech and Promise that star Wade Staczyk as he's nicknamed "Stacks" in those stories) no longer exist save for the one Wolf's Dragoons had that allowed them to know how to go to Ilion in 3151?
>>97875186The thought of a locust trying to wield its own stubby arm-wing as a club is amusing.
>>97875328Heat for attempting to stand up, not movement heat in general.
>>97875659>Burn walk points>Don't earn walk heatSeems more complicated to me.
>>97874590Taurians vs Canopians. They are just such perfect foils for each other and are two of the better known periphery nations. That being said, most people don't care about the periphery at all but I would like to see more about their cold war heating up.
>>97874590Wolf's Dragoons vs WoBBlame "Blake and Wolf" being my intro to Btech.
>>97875571>limestone depositsProbably just easier to locally source, since BattleTech is brimming with Earth-likes.
>>97875774Then what would be the one resource in this franchise that cannot be easily found like nickel or limestone that would be worth trying to rediscover a system removed from star charts during the Succession Wars?
>>97875822Germanium.
>>97875822As far as base resources go: nothing short of exotic materials.But… given everything that’s happened in the succession wars, lostech and intact industrial centers would absolutely get someone’s undivided attention.
Super heavies should be more common.
>>97875849Hell, even a livable hideaway OFF the Star Charts has it's own value.
>>97875911Though would it be worth using a planet no longer in star charts given that those who lived in such planets had pet animals that could have evolved into being dangerous? In Starving Vultures, there's mention of a veterinary clinic and that Jim having a pet dog that was regularly taken there. A system being removed from a star chart because it stopped being seen as somewhere with something worth offering dooms any society living there in the long run that if they had pets, try to imagine what'll happen to those that outlive the humans still living there?
>>97875980That's acting as if the local Fauna aren't nightmarish Space Horrors half the time.
>>97875854They have little reason to be more common than they are.They cannot be jump capable, even the lightest ones can't practically go faster than 3/5, they're locked out of a wide variety of advanced tech, they're universally very expensive just because of how large and full of stuff they are and it's a massive investment into a single machine that is still very vulnerable to crits and headshots.They're an extremely constrained weight class that isn't capable of adequately filling niches besides juggernaut and heavy sniper. I don't see there being room for more than a couple additional hypothetical superheavy mechs ever unless their tech restrictions are lifted.
>>97875854Plastic WoB Omega when?!
>>97875854>Super heavies should be more commonI like Ares.I would like a plastic Ares.Plz CGL.
>>97875854Then go play Warmahordes
>>97876065>>97876056>so we decided to redesign all superheavies from the ground up and make them look completely different for no reason>here's our generic blobs of edgeless matte plastic slabs
>>97876120Trying Too Hard
>>97875980> had pet animals that could have evolved into being dangerous?Oh, no! You’re right! All those domestic animals might’ve reverted back into something resembling the wild animals they were originally domesticated from! That means instead of finding a passive garden world, they’ll be coming to a wild and savage Earth-like planet. And we’ve never had to deal with THAT! Ever!Please.If anything re-taming the planet this time around is likely to be noticeably easier, since this time around they’d be doing so with guns, lasers, and 15-meter-tall giant robots, and not just sticks and stones alone.
>>97876132See >>97876123Thank you.
>>97875911It's like having your private island, but a milk run takes one to two months.
>>97874590Free Worlds League vs Free Worlds LeagueGlory to Marik
What would have happened if that Rassalhauge dude didn't gamble the Second Star League on that vote of no confidence but let the Lyrans, FedSuns, and Capellans just leave?
>>97876694The Invincible still shells the fuck out of the faggots.
Been meaning to dig into the “Battletech:Universe” book for a good, long while.This page giving a quick summary of the basic mech weaponry just have to say:1) HA! The PPC IS basically a weaponized particle accelerator! I can’t remember if it was at my LGS, or here somebody was trying to argue that it wasn’t, but something closer to an ion thruster or something. This is clearly describing a particle accelerator.2) gotta say, and I don’t know why this didn’t click until just now, but mech flamers sound more like a 40k melta-weapon than a conventional flame thrower. Not that I’m complaining mind you…
>>97876974All this info is in the OG Battledroids manual bro. PPC literally means Particle Projection Cannon.
>>97876988> OG Battledroids manual bro1) not everyone has access to shit from the old days.2) yes, I know, I still got argued with. I don’t know what to tell you.
>>97876974Gauss rifle best weapon
>>97877012>I still got argued withYou're posting in the Battletech general. Expect to be argued with even though you posted nothing wrong.
>>97877012>1) not everyone has access to shit from the old days.I mean, that's why we maintain the archive, so everyone does.
>>97877063That's bullshit, that never fucking happens here
>>97877012See? >>97877063I >>97877063 was right.
Literally the only flavour flavour of FedSuns I can tolerate is the Swordsworn. I hate everything else FS.
>>97877095>Not respecting Erik as the best Regent and Prince's Champion long after Tikograd.You bring shame on the swords of Avalon.
>>97877057Respectable.But there’s just something about shooting a bunch of subatomic particles at a target at 90%+ the speed of light that just feels so excessive in that mad-science kind of way. Plus there’s never a time or faction that doesn’t have access to PPCs
>>97877113>Plus there’s never a time or faction that doesn’t have access to PPCsExcept when plot demands scarcity, Marik and Liao both notably weathered PPC shortages enough to warrant refits of preexisting 'mech designs using large laser replacements
>>97877095It was pretty cool that, despite being a mere Republic Splinter Faction, they fought on the frontlines of the Liao Incursion and defended the Republic/FedSun worlds against the Caps. Quite brave and noble.
>>97877134They went official Fedsuns after VSD's funeral, just like Dragon's Fury went official Drac.
>>97877095I hate the Fedrats so much my representative unit for their faction is currently non-canon despite their work being baked into the setting lore.
>>97877147>Team Banzai>Non-canonwtf are you smoking, man? Also, post that black and yellow proof.
>>97877145And I didn't say otherwise. However at time they were still just break aways.
>>97877167So, fun thing. If you read Scorpion Jar, they never officially broke away. In fact, Aaron is all talking to Levin going "No bro, we're still totally loyal boys." as they're flying over the ruins of Hilton Head.
This is one of my favorite form-factors. Dragon, cent, good solid mechs.
>>97877163No mentions in FM: Davion or in FM: Mercs. CGL washed them out as a unit.
>>97877187Where's your antennae, brother?
>>97877185>So, fun thing.Pedantic and reddit-coded. Hell of a post, anon.
>>97877187
>>97877196I sorta forgot them. Maybe if I get some piano strings, I'll glue some on later. I also have a conversion of the WFT-2 I'm working on, that one has the antennae
>>97875026I just need to say that a single hex-wide river all the way down its length is PUSSY BEHAVIOUR.
>>97877185Sure anon
>>97877227>Posts an excerpt from ED: DA and doesn't realize Sword of Sedition takes place after Scorpion Jar where they went full Fedsuns after nominally pretending to be official RotS the whole time before that.I fucking hate dumb niggers that don't read the novels.
>>97877227>Katana Tormarka shit, a SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>97877227The fact they Stormhammers and Swordsworn would still, from time to time like the Falcon invasion of Skye, work with the RAF to protect the innocents of the Inner Sphere is a great detail to me.They breaking away from the RotS FOR their people and if keeping them safe means fighting with those they broke away from sometimes, they'll do it for the greater good.Very noble.
>>97877257Awww, sorry I pointed out you were wrong pal.Lol cope and seethe
>>97877260How's she doing in the old ISF sex dungeon in the ilClan? Must have been there like seven years at this point. It's got to be full Taimanin Asagi at this point.
>>97877266You are wrong. Keep being arrogant. It just shows you're too dumb to realize you're wrong.
>>97877269The Dracs were going to try and get info about something big and important out of her last I heard but whatever new plot Katana was meant to be involved in was probably dropped long ago.
>>97877279>You are wrong. Keep being arrogant. It just shows you're too dumb to realize you're wrongCope.And.Seethe.Buddy.:3
>>97877057Aren't gauss rifles just massive magnetic clacker guns?
>>97877132Didn’t the FWL develop the awesome? One of the greatest PPC boats in all of Battletech?One would think they, of all people, would know how to build a damn PPC
>>97877295Start at page 282 of Sword of Sedition and just read nigga read.
>>97877305They’re basically another word for what is usually called a rail-gun in other settings.
>>97877328They were so short on PPC's, they were making some non-PPC Awesomes at Savannah. Where do you think the 8R and 8T come from?
>>97877328Like I said, scarcity for plot's sake only. SUDDENLY Marik can't make PPCs to sustain their Black Knight stable so here's this NEW MODEL with a large laser instead!
>>97877185No they 100% a Republic splinter faction. Don't know why you'd lie about this lmfaoIs this cope? Bait? It's something.
>>97877269>How's she doing in the old ISF sex dungeon in the ilClan?Going by In The Shadow of the Dragon, the ISF has fallen pretty far from their infamy since the Indrahars.
>>97877361>A book written years after everything happened.They were not treated as a splinter by the government at the time. They were legally treated as loyal soldiers of the Republic right up until they switched to the Fedsuns. That's the point.
>>97877386Holy Mother Of Cope.Your L, m'lord.
>>97877388Holy faggot of personal attacks! Exclamations make your point so much more real!
>>97877386>They were legally treated as loyal soldiers of the Republic right up until they switched to the Fedsuns. That's the point.You can literally see in both posts>>97877361>>97877227They were being treated as foes mere months after Gray Monday.
>>97877399They were not. Read the fucking novels. Jesus fucking Christ, this is a complete Takashi didn't kill himself, Waterly didn't retire to Atreus situation.
>>97877395>Holy faggot of personal attacks! Exclamations make your point so much more realConcession accepted, anon.
>>97877185>>97877257>>97877279>>97877331>>97877386>>97877386>>97877395>>97877402>Gets proven wrong in 2 screenshots>Immedately melts downMany such cases.
>>97877412Kill yourself already, faggot.
>>97877350> Where do you think the 8R and 8T come from?Ngl, upon seeing how the 8Q was the GOAT, I kinda, never bothered to look at, or acknowledge, that the Awesome even had variants. I mean, who’d be so arrogant to think that they could improve upon perfection?
>>97877420;w;
>>97877417Oh hey, here's the duke getting treated as a regular Governor in a tour of Terra in 3135 and trying to smooze with the Davions because he's still part of the official RotS with his official position.You know, because you didn't actually read the pages when given.
>>97877426While I also celebrate the child of Saint Technicron, we must remember the weaknesses that made the world join the Silverhawk Coalition.
>>97877452Oh hey, that doesn't change anything shown here >>97877227Or here>>97877361Crazy!Take the L, and move on. It's ok to be wrong, pal :)
>>97877475You can't be a splinter and still be part of the main government. We know he's doing his own shit, but Redburn and Levin never acknowledged it. He was a full on regular Governor right up until Harrison got pushed out a window, and he threw in with Caleb.
gonna do a maddog next.what should the 5th be? got a thunderbolt I was thinking of maybe modding into the IIC.
>>97877475>I posted two things from ED:DA written from the 3140's perspective.Who cares?
>>97877491>I-uh-W-Well yeah he was a breakway who was actively fighting the RAF and trying to claim worlds for the FedSuns but the Exarch just ignored that!Got a permit to move them goalposts, mate?
>>97877492Battle Cobra
>>97877503>but the Exarch just ignored that!He did. Again, read the fucking novels, dude.
>>97877499>You quoted the lore. Who cares?Annnnd I accept your concession.
>>97877517I quoted lore as well, at a higher canon level, so I accept your concession.
>>97877516>>97877521>Y-yeah?! Well right back at ya! Ha! + Goalposts movedI win lmfao
>>97877503>trying to claim worlds for the FedSunsDidn't officially happen until after the 3135 civil war. The Swordsworn going Feddie lines up almost exactly with the rape of Danai Liao.
>>97877530>Retard declares victoryDon't break a tooth chewing on your brass medal. There's Capellan lead in it.
The people who argue about shitty Battletech lore have a special kind of loneliness to them.
>>97877552No, we just have krautism.
>>97877540Headline: Danai Liao Raped! Swordsworn Flee Charges! FedSuns Say "She Had It Coming!"
>>97877547>Still stamping his feet and cryingAwww it's ok buddy. I won't tell anyone you're a retard.
>>97877328The scarcity meant they were pulling PPCs out of other things to feed the Awesome line.
>>97877360>>97877132Original lore vs the nulore.Prior to the retcons the PPC was an increasingly rare weapon amongst the Inner Sphere, to the point that Earthworks was having to hoard their stockpile of PPC's for Warhammer production, and there was a genuine chance that they might have to switch out to using Large Lasers instead if the situation did not change. the FWL had basically exhausted their fresh stocks and where reduced to recycling old weapons for new chassis, and ended up having to make sacrifices, replacing the PPC's in their Marauders and Awesomes with Large Lasers instead.Then the retcons happened and suddenly Earthworks is able to produce the Thug with no issues, and PPC's are everywhere in chassis that where formerly extinct. What we are left with is a weird bit of lore that makes no sense because the retcon to bring all these extinct chassis back into production completely ignored the increasing scarcity of certain systems. It also completely ruins Operation Rosebuds big reveal as there is no reason for Davion forces to be shocked by House Kurita deploying dozens of fresh extinct or near extinct chassis when said chassis are now commonplace. Same with the tech, those losttech examples where a major reason why the War of 3039 didnt result in a major Drac loss, but suddenly said tech is everywhere.
>>97877584Now the reason for the War of 3039 not resulting in a Drac loss is Jake Mason from MW5. I'm joking, but he does beat the crap out of Snord's Irregulars in Dragon's Gambit.
>>97877584>Same with the tech, those losttech examples where a major reason why the War of 3039 didnt result in a major Drac loss, but suddenly said tech is everywhere.Teddy K's Rasalhague deal with ComStar explains that for the Combine, but I don't recall ComStar doling out lostech gibs to anyone else in 3039.
>>97877622The deal was in 3034. He's getting at the tech rollbacks which had a lot of prototypes in 3039 and full production in the 3040's that were formerly 3050's stuff. See the Grasshopper 5N and how many times its been rolled back.
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Having a look at characters, lore and dossiers, a lot of people piloted an Arbalest during the Dark Age.What an odd choice.
>>97877076Fuck off cunt you know damn well it does.
>>97877767>giving a shit about Dark AgeI should probably start to tbf
>>97877792>falling for the baitAnon, pls
Now are the domino masks normally part of the ComStar uniform? Or is that only for members of specific departments?
>>97877846I like to think the robes and mask are for when mingling with outsiders, but 90s tech weenie /fa/ is for when on the complex.
Been messing with some metallics i have a very blue rifleman now might make it a royal guard or something idk
>>97877924Sexy. I keep trying to do that with white but I haven't mastered the paint-to-medium ratio so it keeps looking like silver when I'm aiming for pearlescent. I'll keep working on it.
>>97877969Just do an ink wash over chrome. That's classic candy coat stuff.
>>97878008Never fucked with inks, might give it a try.
who owns/operates the HPG's after comstar was blown up and the blakists were killed? Do credits even exist in the ilclan era?
>>97878172Dirty Clanners getting theirs back for Tukayyid by becoming the de facto nu-ComStar.
>>97877584>retconsThere's like a 3-5 year period towards the end of the 4th SW where things are getting a bit dicey for PPC manufacturing...And then the Helm Memory Core revival happens and the problem goes away.Now I know that reading between the lines is something that BT fans hate to do, but I think the implication here is obvious: the Helm revival allowed the Caps and Burds to get a lid on PPC manufacturing and solved the issue.War of 3039 continuity is just an utter clusterfuck, I don't even bother trying to explain that shit anymore past "the Federated Commonwealth accomplished a major military victory against the Dracs that they regard as a loss, and we're supposed to feel bad for them because of it."
>>97878195It's funny how them making the clan inherit HPGs and international currency completely undoes any practical consequence of comstar dying.Comstar was always a background character that effectively didn't exist on a map, so their destruction is meaningless if someone else can just take over their jobs.WoB was just a BBEG that spawned in the middle of the sphere for some lazy cheap drama, did nothing of substance and then died, so their destruction was also meaningless.Someone else is doing what comstar was doing, WoB's jihad had no lasting effect, it's like comstar never existed. Why even kill them at that point?
Why did the Cappies nationalized mercs into their regular army? Wouldn't it burden their finance even more?
>>97877622A lot of the stuff that was really rare or only just entering prototype phase in 3039 was retconned to be in production, the same with rare chassis. That the Dracs got several mechs, accidentally, with functional lostech is a major plot point as it gave them a massive edge. That vanishes when those said weapons are suddenly already in production. The same with the rare chassis they get supplied with - when those become readily available the shock factor goes.You have to remember that in the original fluff the tech rollout took a lot longer and even by 3049 most mechwarriors did not know what an ER laser was, let alone a Gauss Rifle.
>>97878304China must grow larger.
>>97878283You know what?All this is a consequence of 2 things together: the IP changing hands regularly and each new owner wanting a “fresh start”. But none of these owners actually wanting to do a hard reset, so they just move the timeline forward a little and have something happen that functionally puts everything at a perceived status quo, but not undoing anything that happened before.It all makes for a really messy history and timeline that… I’m kinda all for. Makes the Battletech universe feel more real, more lived-in.
What was Myndo's reason/gain for proposing Rosebud?
>>97878304Yes and no.Hiring a merc is more expensive than having a regular, both in terms of paying them and all the associated upkeep. Decent merc units are going to get salvage, repair, maintenance, and transport rights as well.The problem comes in when you don't need that military capacity for whatever reason. If you have a bunch of mercs and you want to downsize, you just don't renew them. Problem solved.Of course, then if you do need that capacity you may have burned the bridge with them, or they may be available... or they may be working for the enemy, with the advantage of having played OPFOR against you for the last six years and providing their new employer with all that intel.The Caps were in a bit of a unique situation where they had a shit ton of cash to throw around but limited ability to build or produce their own war materiel. Most new production was going to the FedCom and Dracs... but there's a bunch of long-term mercs who know they really can't get a job anywhere else sitting around, so two birds, one stone.Otherwise it's a bit more nuanced. There's a benefit either way.
>>97878347Not allowing the fedcom to roll over their biggest rival and solidify themselves as an even more dominant power than being two great houses already made them. Comstar doesn't want the balance tipped over like that.
>>97877923> 90s tech weenie /fa/ is for when on the complex.Oh. I thought the general attire for when on the complex was kinda like with Unseen University: hooded bathrobes with a mix of stars, and algebraic equations intermingling with coffee & tobacco stains, with matching sweatpants and fuzzy slippers. Because when your a tech bro turned wizard among other tech bros turned wizards, why put in the effort?
>>97878340>Makes the Battletech universe feel more real?It's like if the european wars of religion happened but all of europe just went back to being catholic immediately after and nothing changed.It doesn't feel real, it feels contrived and lazy.
>>97878387I always presumed it was the opposite, the tech religion in ComStar was supposed to be a front to fool outsiders, but the Wobbies got hooked on the Kool-Aid and took it seriously.
>>97878449>geez blake, how the hell are we going to survive to forthcoming succession wars, we're just a telecom company for gods sake>WAIT, say that again>what? for gods sake?>yes, for gods sake... that might just be crazy enough to work! of course we'll need to hide it from outsiders, and high ranking members will need to know the truth, other wise we'll be at risk of being taken over by fanatics of our own creation
>>97877480Looks interesting Anon. Part of a RPG campaign?
>>97878449Oh, no, no, no.The creepy doomsday cult was the Real ComStar, the tech-bros with the wizard shtick was the mask.
>>97878449Other way around, the tech religion was meant to fool Comstar into caring about the mission even if they themselves get nuked into the stone age. Cultists will gather in a cave with torches to plot their rise to power, corporate employees will not.
>>97878488Tbh I'm not sure, I saw it in one of these threads and saved it, just like pic related.
>>97878480Oh, I am certain it went like this:> “so we’re a doomsday cult first and foremost? And the phone company is just the front?”> “indeed, with this company, we will be able to monitor all the secret communiques, and get close to the leadership of the vile houses to best facilitate their ultimate downfall and scouring of the inner sphere so we can rebuild the Star league better than before! And better still, it encourages the houses to turn a blind eye towards our schemes, lest they lose their ability to communicate with their systems.> okay… but why all the pomp and pageantry? Why not just run it like a normal phone company?> what do you mean?> the robes? The chanting? All the unnecessary mystical rituals and incantations that’s been added to our company SOP?> IT IS THE WILL OF THE OMNISSIAH!> wut?> I said it was to confuse outside observers and mystify advanced tech and add layers of superstition, so as to discourage outsiders from reverse-engineering tech we don’t want them to learn.>… Blake, how much time have you been spending around the HPG exactly?
This chart will need to be updated soon
SOVLCatalyst should hire the guys from Firestorm Armada to cook up space combat game rules for Warships
>>97878643I cannot find that Clan Invasion book listed there anywhere.
>>97878798It's a box set, not a book.
>>97877560I mean, yeah. All Capellan have it coming. The yellow sluts are literally made to be raped by Davion cock.
>>97878808So it doesn't contain any rules important for using Clantech, good - got it. Thank you, Anon. You're a big help.
>>97878815I don't believe so. I think the only rules in it apply just to the Omnis in the box and only for Alpha Strike, but I also don't own it so I cannot verify.
>>97878822Your input is a good help regardless, as I am slowly chipping away at and working on running a Mechwarrior campaign for friends. One of the ideas was making the players a sibko and training them to survive their Trial of Position, so I was worried whether I would need anything specific for them. On that note, thread question. What would be a good choice of Clan for a Mechwarrior player group?>Hard Mode: Can't be one of the Invasion Four
>>97878841The Invasion Four are lame, and worst Clans. I personally picked Steel Vipers, but they're hyper-isolationists who tolerate no failures and don't even field sohlama so they might not be the path you want to go.
>>97878841Clan goliath scorpion.
>>97877924Brother! I just finished cleaning the last of these and will be priming once weather permits.
>>97878841unironically>>97878921Is probably your best bet, because if you're not going to hit the sphere in Operation REVIVAL you're either sitting around with your dick in your hand doing inter-clan trials, or you're with the Scorpions and doing Seeker shit, and unless you've got a really great handjob one of these is going to be a lot more boring than the other.
>>97878470That got me curious. What happens when you jump when the toads are on your mech?
>>97878932The toads fall off.
What the hell the Albatross' 'beak' supposed to represent?
>>97879052Just an armored cowl over the cockpit.
>>97879052A place to put your deck chair.
>>97879059But the albatross doesn't have that quirk.
Going back to the discussion about systems and star charts, having learned that the Green Stone system being added into star charts during the Third Succession War as it was renamed Clayborne and a part of the Circinus Federation at the time (it being one of many systems removed from star charts when the Second Succession War ended in 2864), I must wonder: was this recognized by nation-states across known space besides the Circinus Federation or do other Periphery powers and the Succession States don't?
We played a scenario in the War of 3039 tonight. Scored my first Highlander Burial against the accursed Fedrats!Dragon Status: HONORED
>>97879148Comstar Cartographic Corps pretty much decides for everyone if something is important enough to be on the map and what it's called.
>>97879164Fuckin' nice!
>>97879148The Successor States don't recognize the CF as a whole, but the Periphery, particularly the Marian Hegemony, does. Similarly to many worlds formerly of the RWR that didn't get sucked into the LC, I doubt anyone kept tabs on it.
>>97879179My friend designed a scenario where the AFFS had descended on an insignificant border world called New Jameson without real resistance only for a scout lance to run into a Sword of Light demi lance riding in with both advanced and ancient weaponry.I had an experimental Grand Dragon, and upgunned Charger, and a Highlandet against a Battlemaster, Centurion, Wolfhoud, Banshee, and Jaegermech (these last two already damaged, survivors of the earlier encounter with the SoL). The sole Davion ‘Mech to escape was the Centurion. I lost the Grand Dragon to an ammo explosion that took out its XL engine.
>>97879148I imagine if you have any reason to go into the periphery you're either using military charts that aren't beholden to public ones or you're using a "local" jumpship that knows the conditions of that part of the periphery.
>>9787916490 t hugelander v 55 t wolverine.yet more evidence of the superiority of the griffin. silly wolverine thought he could go toe to toe with an assault. possibly a former hunchback pilot...
>>97879204That was an 85-ton Battlemaster that got roflstomped by the Kuritan Highlander (courtesy of Myndo Waterly).I also bullied the shit out of that Battlemaster at every opportunity.
>>97879204Rent free
>>97879250silly wolverine.
>>97879208what is a battlemaster except a big fat wolverine?
>>97879274A stud even House lords ride into battle.
>>97879274What an odd thing to post
>>97879290still not as beautiful as griffin, even though it is trying to ape griffin.>>97879298Griffin supremacy!
>>97877057Gauss rifles in Tabletop and MW5 :>Gauss Rifles in MWO big piece of shit.
>>97878283(You)
>>97879303Imagine being this threatened by a handsome lad like Wolverine. Roundfacers should stick to guarding old ladies in chairs, it'll be hard living for sensitive folks in the Inner Sphere.
>>97879442>MWO big piece of shit.This is universal
>>97879442It's amusing that AC/2s in MWO have over five times the fire rate of tabletop AC/2s and they're still mediocre at best.
>>97879552Sticking 3 AC/2's on a Hunchback tho.
>>97879572Makes a not-Hunchback?
Chadow Hawk
>>97879572The standards for facetime weapons are just so fucking high in MWO's alpha strike twitch shooting peeking meta that regular AC/2s don't cut it, you need RACs at least, and you'll still get absolutely bodied by any decent high alpha peeker unless you have extremely favorable circumstances.
>>97879592hunchlessdehunched
>>97878922I'd love to see how your battle armor turns out and also the schemes you do them inI love the design of those silverbacks, something about them is just so cool to me
>>97879614Blasphemy
>>97879598Sticking 2 RAC/5's on a Hunchback is dangerously zased.
>>97875032>what's your unusual iconic match-up/rivalryRoTS vs Valkyrate
>>97874571I always wondered if mechs could work in a setting involving guerrilla jungle warfare They seem too entrenched in conventional warfare
>>97879742In a limited sense, certainly, as long as your logistics holds up.
>>97879742>I always wondered if mechs could work in a setting involving guerrilla jungle warfareNigga never watched 8th MS Team
>>97878694The space combat rules are actually pretty good as is.The problem with space combat is that there's basically only two levels of design optimisation: Targe and Hellstar.If they could just be bothered to go back and unfuck all the shitty designs the problem would be solved. But it's CGL, so...
>>97878694>hire the guys from Firestorm Armada>He doesn't know
>>97875274They appear to be having cash flow issues. They where supposed to be putting on a big display to rival GW at the UK games expo, but they wouldn't pay for the table up front and instead wanted to pay afterwards. The organisers told them no and when CGL insisted they booted them to the free zone where you basically a demo table.
>>97879841Qrd?
>>97879845The free zone?
>>97879845Nothing carving away their mob of DEI hire parasites wouldn't solve.
>>97879845You're talking about Salute, right? I had a friend going there and the Battletech table was a dingy demo table with a bunch of stuff randomly and haphazardly put around. I ran better demo tables by myself, for chrissakes.They also had nothing to buy, because selling your stuff is apparently impossible to organize.I fully understand that being Euro is a cardinal sin for CGL and we're worse than niggers, but it's seriously aggravating at times.
>>97879859Basically the poors bit of the expo, it free to set up in, you just need to book a table in advance. It's used for smaller companies and start ups to try and generate some interest in their games.>>97879868Agreed, but they have to realise this fact themselves
>>97879879No, the big UK Games Expo in Birmingham.https://www.ukgamesexpo.co.uk/They where supposed to be doing a massive display that was larger than GW. It does sound more and more like there have been cash flow issues and financial mismanagement, especially after how popular Battletech has become.
>>97879879>and we're worse than niggersDon't pin the blame for CGL's incompetence on yourselves, Europe might be an ongoing dumpster fire to do business with but lack of preparedness by the guest isn't the host's responsibility. Whomever CGL was supposed to be who CGL event-liaised with probably never even got contacted and never got asked the right questions even had they been, or CGL didn't bother to read over the event statement outlining how to conduct business, it's normally in an info packet sent in advance.
>>97879303>>97879487See>>97869421
>>97879902Trying Too Hard
>>97879879>I fully understand that being Euro is a cardinal sin for CGL and we're worse than niggers, but it's seriously aggravating at times.We're talking about the folks who also have a long history of letting license holders take the reins and do whatever the fuck makes the most sense for their market though.
>>97879895Ah, that's even worse then. Two in a row. >>97879900See, I know it's borderline rage-baiting, but I seriously see a basic problem of civility and honesty when you keep bleating about "inclusion" and "growing the hobby" and everything out of the US gets shafted.I'm not joking when I say the people I play with are the only Battletech players in like a 400km radius in Yuropistan: because if someone wants to play historicals, he orders them online and gets them. He wants to play 40k? He goes to a fucking GW shop and buys them. He wants to play Btech? Hopefully he knows how to print or to salvage stuff from insane Amazon listings or failing German online shops, and also manage the utterly retarded Forcepack situation, because simply starting is an hassle. Not even the Germans play Btech as they used to, and everywhere else the situation is a wasteland. Diversity is diversity just when it's in America, right?
>>97879920CGL dreams big and talks big, but they really aren't good at leveraging success outside the borders. I think that's by design as much as stupidity, because Topps has a hand in such things and I don't know how long a leash they have CGL on. What I do know from several years' experience shadowing dealer liaisons on the convention circuit that had to deal with international business relations is that you get your fucking shit straight with the event before you start talking big about what you intend to do at said event. Going mano-a-mano with GW on their home turf when you didn't even arrange the setup space? Never should have left their fucking lips before the bill was paid and the ink was dry on the agreement, simple as. Euro-market deserves at least a modicum of common courtesy, and CGL's failed to provide even that much. I'm truly sorry they're such rotten custodians internationally for this IP.
>>97879920Yee, the supply issue is a joke. My flgs hasn't had any Battletech stuff in for over a year now, and it isn't because it doesn't sell. They can't get it, noone can. At the moment we have resorted to a system where anyone going to America announces it and takes orders for the rest, usually for the B&N exclusives, but also for stuff that's not available over here. I am thankful for having so much old metal stuff that I'm not in the worst of positions.There's some 3d printer fags amongst us too, they do alright. But the entire situation means its hard to get newfags on board, there's no starter boxes in store to catch the eye, let alone any lance or star packs.
>>97879905Its true though.
>>97879952>>97879954It's steadily becoming a matter of image, also. Mechwarrior was huge and I still meet some grogs that played back in the 90ies (it astounds me that Btech was commonly played by teens and kids here in the early-mid 90ies).But this can't go on forever, the generation that played is pushing 50, the guys who played MW4 are pushing 40 and I don't see MW5/Clans getting new people in the hobby.Meanwhile, GW gets cultists. Trench Crusade players outnumber us 20:1 in my area.Every year it gets harder to get people interested, without even talking about "cultural issues" (when the first thing a guy sees on the official reddit is LGQBT+ flags I usually get a few questions).Again, frustrating.
>>97879992On the other hand, it's cute going on MWO and talking to 50-60 year olds who only use the computer to play Mechwarrior, and send little o7 messages to each other in chat.
Is it true that the Wolverine is for femboys?
>>97880007Yes.
>>97880023How
>>97879954It's like a glorious throwback to the 90s.
>>97879845Source: My Ass
>>97880026It is known.Check notable pilots of the Griffin vs Wolverine
>>97880026It's just Griffinfag cope. HBS Battletech used a Wolverine as the first boss fight of the campaign and they're still salty about it.
>>97880039
>>97879992>>97880002Battletech has a reputation for being a game for Boomers so its already an uphill battle to get people to try it. The type of people who might be interested are massively put off by the "cultural issues" you mentioned, its just a massive set of baggage they cannot be bothered to deal with so kills off what interest they might have had.CGL really need to put all their efforts and focus into delivering a product first rather than trying to pander which by the way, the LGBT+ groups they are trying to appease absolutely fucking despise. You are meant to be a business not a political activist.
>>97880053Ah the Big Black Vegan who is accompanied by his Arkab Legion Butt Buddy.
>>97876170>It's like having your private island, but a milk run takes one to two months.I mean that's kind of the draw; Sure you can't get shit in less than a year, but nobody is going to know where you are keeping YOUR good shit.>>97879642>Sticking 2 RAC/5's on a Hunchback is dangerously zased.Who doesn't love the IIC 4?>>97880058>CGL really need to put all their efforts and focus into delivering a product firstThese are the same people who committed Porchgate, your culture war pandering is just an easy distraction.
>>97880168At the point where you're capable of maintaining your own jumpship, drop fleet and the personal to maintain your base on an uninhabited planet (which includes dealing with the hassle of them dying to the unexplored local flora and fauna at a predictable rate), you might as well buy an estate on one of the many uninhabited continents on an actual inhabited world.
>>97880246Not if I want to keep my Germanium cache safe!
>>97879742the gorilla mechs would simply have chainsaws for hands
>>97880331low tier.
>>97880392/btg/ loves monkey mechs
>>97880408All shitboxes. Save that garbage for Transformers: Beast Wars.
>>97880168>nobody is going to know where you are keeping YOUR good shit.Unless you're right in the path of the Clan Invasion, like what happened to that retired DCMS guy with his family Archer.
>>97879620They're going to be interesting to paint. Well-defined details, but I've never done anything at that scale so not sure how exactly to go about it. I mean, I have a plan, but worry that even something as simple as prime black > base coat metallic blue > thinned blue ink wash > light metallic blue highlights will cake them up. Might skip the ink, or base coat with the light metallic blue.Luckily the Silverbacks come with more minis than I'll ever need so I can experiment.
Got another Mechwarrior game done!This time I played the Lancers while my mate was the Dragoons. I won this time! The Lancers mech seems better but the Dragoons have better BA and tank.Very fun!
>>97880958As an old whale that picked up literally thousands of these and factory sets when they were worth basically nothing to play N-scale Battletech, it's cool to see you enjoying your minis the way they were actually intended. Soldier on, friend.
>>97880958The Lancers really didn't know when to quit. For two months now, the 21st Centauri Lancers and Wolf's Dragoons' Gamma Regiment had torn each other apart amid the long dead city of Hartsburg. It should have been a simple mission, drop in, recover a cache of military equipment belonging to the Word of Blake Militia who had garrisoned Wyatt decades prior and get out.But it hadn't worked out that way. Within hours of landing on Wyatt, the Dragoons found themselves under attack from a force of Lancers who had landed to the east. Somehow, most likely by means of a spy, the 21st had learned the location of the Blakist cache and moved to secure it before the Wolves could. In 3136, mere years after the collapse of the HPG Network and the dawning of the Dark Age, Battlemechs were a rare thing indeed and this scarcity meant neither side was willing to back down and let the other claim Wyatt's bounty. That refusal led to two months of war. Both sides had been savaged brutally in the fighting, and the devastated city had been reduced to an even more ruined state by the ceaseless fighting. But now, a chance to end the war has presented itself. A secret network of subterranean tunnels crafted by the Blakist Militia have been discovered beneath Hartsburg. These tunnels lead all over the city and out into the wilds. Using these hidden paths, a small force of Dragoon's have travelled east, far behind enemy lines, to a small opening on the side of a cliff.Emerging from the tunnels, Captain Cain cast his gaze across the surrounding wilderness. In the distance was the small town of Korburg, the temporary HQ of the Centauri. It was surrounded by Lancer DropShips and bustling with activity, but there were few defenders. The bulk of the 21st's military strength was still engrossed in the fighting around Hartsburg. Cain grinned, flexing the claws of Jade Hawk. All they had to do was get in, wreck the town, kill the commanders and the war would be over.This would be easy.
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>>97880045The Griffin is the patrician choice.The Wolverine is the pleb choice.and the Shadow Hawk is the choice of those who arrive on the battlefield via the short dropship.
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>>97880993Damn straight it's a short dropship, because it doesn't need to carry anything else.Shadow Hawk is the hero mech. Anything worse than it is a mook to be slaughtered. Anything stronger is a challenge to be overcome. Any fight a Shadow Hawk loses is due to the player not playing well enough, not the mech.
>>97880970Based narrative player.Glad you enjoyed yourself.
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>>97874608Nice edit.
Is moving the armour pips around (-1 from LL and +1 to LA, CT to RCT and so on) a class A or easier refit?
>>97881066>>97880968Thanks anons, it was great fun. Didn't expect to enjoy Mechwarrior but I've really been getting into it lately. Which is great, always nice to find a game you enjoy :)
Youre at the club and this guy slaps your girl's ass-- Wat do?
holy blake
>>97882158Suck his dick.You just KNOW Elementals are packing and I will not pass up a chance to enjoy that.
>>97882228
>>97880408Yay Baboon! I like that lil fella. Cool design.Pic from second round of our Hinterlands campain. I was doing night attack on my friend's territory. Lots of fun this game, nerve wracking but this time it was the dice and not my bad decisions.
>>97882158BIGBOOMBOX
>>97882327Depending on the mission next time I'm gonna try to make little bit more open board.
The whole Griffin vs Wolverine debate got me thinking, if you had to pick an introtech 55 tonner which one would it be?Hard mode: no Cronus
>>97882727Oh! The… no, wrong tonnage…Umm…Geez man, the 55’s always end up being in this weird place because it always seems like they’re all trying to do something, but run out of tonnage to follow-through.I don’t know if it qualifies as an “introtech” but I’d probably say for what you’re getting, the Gladiator is not bad. Don’t know why the Kuritans couldn’t get it to work for them.
>>97882793Chewable.
>>97882727Kintaro, but reluctantly. Introtech 55-tonners are loaded with struggles that only Clantech ever seems to address.
>>97880958>>97880970>>97880979>>97880984>>97880991>>97881001Neat. I'd never play it, but at least you're having fun.
Reminder the hunchback isn't a hunchback because of the giant side cannon.Its a hunchback back because of the literal giant hunchback on its back carrying the ammo belts FOR the giant side cannon.
Hunch.BACK.Not Hunchside.
>>97883085Your painting is mediocre and you should learn to do better
>>97882788Gladiator is a solid choice. Even got retconned to existing all throughout the Succession Wars and even into Clan Invasion, well at least the 3R and 4R did. Dracs really are complete autists for abandoning it.You'd think there would be more specialists at that tonnage for introtech but most are best described as generic mook troopers. Even if they drop to 4/6 they seem allergic to the idea of using that freed up tonnage for anything but the most basic of loadouts.>>97882928I don't think that is quite a fair assessment. 55 ton introtech does offer a lot of potential just that a lot of designs squander their options by being generalists.
>>97882788I like Gladiator. Cool looking mech.>>97882727Not exactly introtech but he is fun.
So I'm looking to expand my WoB force, already have comstar command box and eyeing battle box. Inside that box is Lancelot, I like how it looks but his stats are kinda meh and I can get better and cheaper ones.Is there something I miss here?
>>97883179Ever used C3i?
>>97883109> You'd think there would be more specialists at that tonnage for introtech but most are best described as generic mook troopers. Even if they drop to 4/6 they seem allergic to the idea of using that freed up tonnage for anything but the most basic of loadouts.I think the 55t is just a cursed tonnage.
>>97883217>I think the 55t is just a cursed tonnage.Only in Introtech. There are sweeter 55s further along the timeline.
>>97883202Not yet, I'm new to BT. Had some games but my love for the Word is fresh and I'm still painting my force.
>>97882798ty!here's recipe:- purple craft 50/50 water for base- pink areas: Gundam Lfrith pink-> pink ??? primary -> 1:2 pink ??? primary:fluorescent pink - white areas: buff -> radome -> white- 1~2 thin coats of turbo dork tin star for metallic areasthen wash everything with the enamel, let it dry for a bit & remove excess, and then finally rehighlight everything again.
example of building up the pink
building up white
enamel wash / panel lining
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>>97883322Your fifth should be a Battle Cobra
>>97883325I started a Pixie IIC and a Gargles C in this scheme, my battle cobra is painted in smoke jag colours :<
>>97882788>>97883109Gotta remember, the drac gladiator was a 4/6 primitive mech with a large laser and a couple mediums. The standard tech version didn't come about until after the dropped the design. At the time the dracs scrapped the design and replaced it with the Von Rohrs, it was fairly obsolete.
Hey, something I read about the history of the inner sphere and just want this confirmed:The original Star League was initially just the FWL, Terran Hegemony, and Cappellan Confederation. Formed basically after Cameron was able to convince Marik and Liao to stop killing each other for longer than half-a-minute. With the other 4 inner sphere houses, who have had no vested interest with this plan up to then, having to be coerced into joining this grand alliance with either promises of grandeur, or veiled threats. And the peripheries, who had even less investment, had to be dragged kicking and screaming, into joining the league.That about right?Which if that is true, then when the Amaris Civil War erupted, wouldn’t the FWL & CC have a vested interest in going all-in with Kerensky? Since the league was 1) their idea, and 2) pretty much the only reason they have been able to get along peacefully up to now?I mean, I can see why the Lyrans, Dracs, and FedSuns would be wishy-washy about rescuing the League; and why the peripheries would be rooting for everyone to lose…
>>97883390Kenyon Marik hated Kerensky
>>97883423Dare I ask why?
>>97883390It was actually formed when the FWL convinced the Hegemony and Cappies to form an alliance with the explicit goal of getting everyone in.
>>97883390The Star League existed for 210 years, long enough that its foundation was two generations removed from living memory. Allegiances from the time of the foundation were basically meaningless, and each Great House saw Kerensky as a potential threat, not an ally.
>>97882230what if I walk up at the lgs and slap your ass, anon?
>>97883443> Great House saw Kerensky as a potential threatHonestly, the way it’s described in “Universe” it kinda sounded like Davion, at least, was probably less threatened by Kerensky, and more that they had come to see the entire Star League as a bad joke played at their expense…After all, the only reason Davion joined was because Cameron promised that if the Kuritans ever attacked, the SLDF would come to the rescue; and when the Kuritans did attack, the SLDF was so slow to act that the conflict was already over and done. If I were Davion, I’d have a “fuck all you assholes” attitude too and looking for an out.
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>>97883537Noice, I want elementals soo bad. But for some reason we can't get them here, literally got one box in 6 months for entire shop.I got some stls but doing supports for them is driving me nuts, I can't get them right because of their little claw hands and always fuck it up.I wish I could buy like 10 form second hand.
>>97883554Are you willing to get them at a bigger scale? 10mm-12mm worked well enough on my printer.
>>97883554if it's any consolation, these sculpts are pretty messed up. the missile pods are misshapen and one is missing a forearm, most of the hands are messed (3/5)
>>97883563Yeah, I might try it this way. I did rly infantry and had no problems but these guys are more solid models.>>97883567Shame, but still nice paintjob.
>>97883443> The Star League existed for 210 years, long enough that its foundation was two generations removed from living memory. Allegiances from the time of the foundation were basically meaningless, It could also go the other way, after 210 years some house lords might’ve gotten comfortable with being in the Star League and didn’t want to fuck that up. In fact the answer to >>97883390 is likely, unless Marik or Liao had personal beef with Kerensky, they would likely be hedging their bets on trying to make sure that, whoever came out on top, they wouldn’t suffer reprisals for having backed the “losing” side. Because in a way, it didn’t matter if it was a Cameron, or an Amaris, as long as somebody’s ass was in the big chair, the Star League would endure.
>>97883094Still no arguement.Hunch.BACK.
Timber wolfMad dogStormcrowPouncerBattle cobraCougarAdderAny other clan mech in the twin big arm gun gang?
>>97883794summoner count?
>>97883794
>>97883834Nah. That's opposite guns.Ppc and ac.Just like uller and shadow cat dont count.
>>97884026Crossbow is clanner mech?
>>97883794Mad Cat IITundra WolfMad Cat IVWarhammer IICMarauder IICGalahadScyllaMasakariTurkina
>>97884168So then, is it a safe thing to say, that this is the clanner schtick?Double arm guns?
>>97884183No, because the IS does it plenty, too. More safe to call it a standard archtype of mech.
>>97882793Awesome work!
>>97884235That is not an Awesome.
>>97884248Mad Dog work!
Any suggestion for Amaris/RWR mechs (available in plastic)? So far I got the Whitworth and the Firestarter in mind
>>97884304>(available in plastic)Eww, no. Get yourself a metal Rampage.Seriously, a plastic Whitworth isn't bad, and they had access to most of the SL stuff before Cameron's famous birthday party.
>>97884304Stalker, Warhammer, Charger
>>97884199IS loves its big gun on one arm, punchy fist fucker on the other though.>beemer>awesome>highlander>griffin>wolverine>victor>penis hawk>stnger>wasp>panther>wolfhound
>>97884304They would have access by purchase to the same early SL Regular Army designs that were common to the major House armies. Besides that, known RWR 'mech production includes the Archer, Banshee, Battlemaster, Dragoon, Firestarter, Hunchback, Locust, Mackie, Orion, Phoenix, Rampage, Stinger, Wasp, and Whitworth. After the coup they'd be fielding a lot of occupied Hegemony production stuff and SLDF salvage as well, so a pretty mixed bag. Their unique chassis' and homegrown Whitworth variant would be the main things distinguishing a Rim Worlds Army force from other factions of the time.
>>97883435Because he got a dishonourable discharge from the SLDF after ordering very heavy-handed tactics against protestors that ended in a dozen or so dead and when Kerensky questioned him about it he showed no remorse about the deaths and told Kerensky "You won't dare punish me because I'm heir to the FWL".
>>97884539Ah. So the reigning Marik was, I believe the term is: “a little shit”
>Comstar during Tukayyid
>>97884612Kenyon was also part of the generals staff at the time so the arrogance he showed to Kerensky wasn't just him being an arrogant little shit but also insubordination.I also get the feeling from what's in Liberation of Terra I that Kerensky would have privately chastised and/or reprimanded Kenyon if he showed remorse or regret instead of arrogance.
I'm thinking about painting the Goliath and the Scorpion in 52nd Shadow Divison scheme. >The 52nd Shadow Division paints their ‘Mechs black on lower portions (aftward for ASFs and vehicles), fading to red towards the top (forward for ASFs and vehicles)In case of quadmechs, should the fading be horizontal or vertical?
>>97884885Vertical. I'm pretty sure there's some White and Blue Flames from the old canon games.
>>97884419>IS loves its big gun on one arm, punchy fist fucker on the other though.I call that the "Megaman" layout, it's one of your three basic humanoid layouts:The Megaman - A big GunhandThe Gunwalker - My arms are twin linked guns, your argument is invalidThe Mazinger - I broughts two fist for Punching along with my TORSO FULL OF PAIN!
>>97884612Kenyon's the guy that got Resolution 288 passed.
>>97878283>it's like comstar never existedHuh? CSF is taking over ComStar’s social and economic role … which is only possible because ComStar existedWhether some Clan has the internal cohesion to actually fill ComStar’s shoes remains to be seen
>>97884304Depends on era you are going for but any of the TRO 2750 designs fit fine.
>>97885011AMEN.
>>97883217It really isn't. You could make a super Vindicator at 55 tons but they choose not to. Now 60 tons that truly is cursed.>>97884026Why is it trying to do a cheerleader pose?
>>97883217heresy. 55 t is the golden tonnage of utter magnificence. the Lord's tonnage class.
>>97885223DRG fucks.DRG-12K triple-quadruple Ultra fucks.Blasphemer!
>>97885223RFL C3 also ultra-holy-mega-shitting-dicknipple-fuck Fucks.
>>97883280Assuming no ECM it can potentially deliver a PSR check from 18 hexes away with a -1 to hit.>>97885237>>97885247>Needs Clan tech to become decentCase firmly rested.
>>97885234>>97885237>>97885247Are you trying to be as annoying as manic or is that just how you talk?
>>97885264you didn't specify, goalpost mover. you just condemned two entire weight classes wholesale.but your admission of failure and retardation is accepted.
>>97885265oh, hello contrarian-anon. are you enjoying your breakfast of cornflakes some one pissed in again?I swear, you must enjoy being an unremitting, hostile, negative-for-no-fucking-reason, utter useless cunt.
>>97885282Well for starters I only said one was cursed. Second it still doesn't detract that 60 tons isn't an efficient weight class. Now I am going to caveat I do like a lot of 60 ton designs but the maths ain't exactly kind to them.
>>97885223>Now 60 tons that truly is cursed
>>97885287>anon asks a question>nuln takes that personally
>>97885328ANGRY DOGGO BEST DOGGO.
>>97885335are you retarded?
>>97885341Not as retarded as nuln is
>>97885347I'm he, you fucking retard. and anontard number one asked ME the fucking question, anontard number two.jesus fucking wept, you really are thick as two bricks.
>>97885328Now draw her as an anime girl!
>>97885364No.
>>97885356I know it's you, Chris. You're the only one who complains about this imaginary "contrarian-anon" whenever somebody disagrees with you or calls you out
>>97885384you're straight up fucking delusional. insane. how the fuck are you not in a locked ward?
>>97885394Is the contrarian-anon in the room with you right now?
>>97885373
>>97885398
>>97885418I guess that makes nuln a leftist as well
>>97885328The mad cat for poors.
>>97885422you do realise you're literally doing the fucking 5-year-old-arguement idiocy?>nuh uh you are so what am I!fucks sake, how are you not embarassed with your doubling, tripling and quadrupling down on being a fucking cunt?
>>97885438Why would I be embarrassed about some outback sheep fucker having a grumpy dumpy over me being retarded online?
I would not believe someone could genuinely be such a petty sperg if I had not witnessed it in real life. Almost frightening to know it could be more than an act.
>>97885265>>97885287And half of why I'm annoying is because of how I talk...>>97885448>Almost frightening to know it could be more than an act.Indeed, but that's the Internet for you.
contrarian-anon is such a fucking tard, he would do the meme.If someone in /btg/ were to post>gee i fucking love this water, its so ice cold and refreshing I really needed that!contrarian-anon would do the>water's gay, fuck water! Water Sucks! I am Never drinking anything ever again! I will have SALT instead!idiocy and then die of dehydration.
>>97885474Water does suck, I only drink milk for basic hydration.
>>97885474Nah, there is no contrarian-anon. Or if there is one, or more, it's a "merely pretending" troll just to rile up nuln
>>97885478>milk>not wateryou really are a fucking retarded contrarian.
>>97885498Nuln confirmed bonelet.
>>97885508dumbass, milk is mostly water, you fucking idiot. jesus fuck, how did you fail basic grade school sciences?
>>97885517Bonelet cope.
>>97885474But it does...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mW-gvPCxw4
>>97885429Timber Wolf, and it is not 60 tons, nor intended for the same function.
