This thread is for OPEN discussion of TSR-era D&D (up to and including 2e), TSR-era settings, and related games, such as retroclones, OSR, and OSR-adjacent games. Free discussion of house rules is encouraged.>GamesIncluding but not limited to: OD&D, B/X, BECMI, AD&D 1e, AD&D 2e, For Gold & Glory, Hackmaster, Myth and Magic, Shadowdark, Into the Odd, Mausritter, Cairn, Mörk Borg, DCC, Mothership, Knave, Troika!, White Hack, Black Hack, and Castles & Crusades.>What is this thread NOT for?Meta discussions and drama related to game creators and other /tg/ threads. We come in peace.>Resources2e fan wiki:https://adnd2e.fandom.com/wiki/Advanced_Dungeons_%26_Dragons_2nd_Edition_Wiki2e archive:aHR0cHM6Ly93ZWIuYXJjaGl2ZS5vcmcvd2ViLzIwMjUwMjA0MTczNzUwL2h0dHBzOi8vdGhlLWV5ZS5ldS9wdWJsaWMvQm9va3MvcnBnLnJlbS51ei9EdW5nZW9ucyUyMCYlMjBEcmFnb25zL0FEJkQlMjAybmQlMjBFZGl0aW9uLw==RPG archive:aHR0cHM6Ly9maWxlcy5zcGF3bmluZ3Bvb2wubmV0L2RvY3MvVmF1bHQyLjAuLS5UVFJQRy1HYW1lYm9va3MvRHVuZ2VvbnMlMjAlMjYlMjBEcmFnb25zJTIwJTVCbXVsdGklNUQv>Previous Thread:>>97823971>Thread Question:What is the worst encounter you've ran and/or participated in?
>>97882907Oh, great, another 75 percent by volume troll thread.
>>97882907>What is the worst encounter you've ran and/or participated in?The one the DM deployed to get rid of my my PC because I was acting like a cunt. In my defence, I think I was 12 at the time.
>>97882992what did you do?
(repost)something im not a massive fan of is the huge range of health you develop as you level in most versions of dnd.one health system i really enjoyed was from barbarians of lemuria where you essentially start with the health of a third level character, like between 10-12, and through progression you MIGHT get up to 16-18. This is balanced out by like all common damage sources being d6+ strength based (2d6 take lowest for small weapons, take highest for 2 handed weapons). so you are on average going to be killed by 2-4 successful common attacks. right in that sweet spot of deadly, but with a little play. I even experimented with starting hp a little lower at like 8 and that was also fun (strong man with +2 str and rolling a 6 possibly killing you outright).
>>97882916>four replies
>>97883912Myself, I like that old school D&D gets pretty heroic at higher levels. I just think it's more rewarding for players to have to work for a bit before they're flying around throwing fireballs instead of getting pretty close to starting at that like later editions.However, there's definitely a contingent of people into dungeon crawlers who are primarily interested in the more swashbuckling adventure story-esque level 1-5 range, and something like Barbarians of Lemuria is a very good fit for those guys.Hell, speaking of swashbuckling, there's a reason the best system outright made for that genre started as a BoL hack.
>>97882907I recall a player drowning in a vat of fish chum. Years later that concept still haunts me.
>>97883912On the low end I run a lot of Savage worlds and you only get 3 wounds before you are down with that
>>97882907>worst encounter you’ve played in?My party was ambushed by gnolls in the middle of the night as a random encounter. We were surrounded so we couldn’t run away and they were all using bows shooting from outside our movement range so couldn’t run to them without dying. Every one had to sit there and watch the DM shoot their PC to death. Afterwards someone asked the DM what we were supposed to do to survive that encounter and he said “I don’t know I was hoping y’all would just figure something out”. I understand why the French would chop the hands off English archers
>>97882907Anyone do anything neat in their downtime? One of my party is a brewer and another has some tinkering skills. They came together to create an early disposable suppressor system for one of their pistols. It uses the same principle as a pillow muffled shoot or one of those DIY plastic bottle suppressors good for one shot.Its a small dried gourd filled with cotton. on the back end it screws in to the pistol, on the front it has a dried gut membrane that is easily penetrated by the bullet. Each is a one time use item, but sometimes you just need one quite heavy lead shot that's quite enough to get the job done.
>>97891719That would involve reading the mechanics and rules
>>97882907>What is the worst encounter you've ran and/or participated in?Every time Andrew had to flex on the PCs by putting us on a plain plane plain so he could showcase how 10-20 orcs with a shaman could seriously hurt a 3-5th level party. Other than being a whitebox it's a decent scenario but we don't need it in every fucking game. D&D, Warhammer, Cyberpunk, Star Wars. The guy was a good DM but he got it stuck in his craw sometimes that the party needed to be taken down a peg and he'd just motherfuck us with the same scenario and shrug like he didn't stack the deck.
>>97893662>trying to give the thread artificial respiration by making up gaming anecdotesBro, just give up. This thread is dead. It's clear that it's /2eg/ or nothing.
>>97893682Why are you responding to a dead thread?
>>97888358I still prefer having variable quantitative amounts of HP where you can tell how robust something is just by its hit die or equivelent. At least from my experience, the stagger element of Savage worlds was a bit annoying. Though I can respect the intent.>>97887151Yah, I can definetly respect the feeling of earning higher and higher numbers and abilities. Though like I sad above, in regards to Honor + intrigue I am not the biggest fan of the "three stages of damage" it has instead of a standard pool of HP.At them moment I am in the sphere of Borrowing from BoL, Scarlet Heros (since it has a similar career system as BoL but its base is more B/X) and Worlds without numbers (which has a similar 2d6 dice resolution for Skills as BoL but it has more elements from Ad&d and 2e). I am thinking about picking my favorite bits from the three and making my own mash up system. The thing I am having a hard time with is if I want to go full 2d6, or make combat rolls the classic d20.Also, I like Crawford's content, but I find he lays things out kind of annoyingly, but also without the entertaining flair that somewhat made Gygax's pontificating more enjoyable to read.>>97893692NTA and I find 2e tard kind of annoying too, but I do apreciate a broader thread than the more narrow OSR one.
>>97893692Because I was onboard with this idea to begin with but at this point it's clear that it's not working. There's no activity, there's literally two of you at most and I don't even think you're posting honestly, just trying to keep the thread alive out of bitterness over /osrg/. The 2e general had plenty of sincere 2e fans and they're not participating here, so it's obvious that only a thread labeled as a 2e thread specifically draws that attention in the catalog whereas this is a dead cope.
>>97894762>The 2e general had plenty of sincere 2e fanslol. megalol.
>>97894762idk, I have like zero interest in 2e, but do have interest in some more divergent tangentially OSR things and the mixing and matching thereof, So I wouldnt be in favor of a solely 2e thread. I do think TODD is a bit of a wonky name though.
>>97894762The /2eg/ thread was pretty clearly being kept alive with all of the troll arguments. It being slow is a good thing, because it means people aren't spending all their time arguing about what game belongs where.
Nothing wrong with slow threads. It's noice to have a boarder OSR thread, if you do another 2e thread the same 2e haters will just show up to detail it sadly .I do agree TODD is a bad name though
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