Everyone's issues with RPGs are solved when you do sandbox play. You don't need to prepare too much, you don't need to force players along a track to a desired outcome, players will want to explore the dungeons you've prepared, it's not possible to avoid content for very long when they track resources, everybody wins. It's easier to not railroad players.
>>97889041Provide actual examples of play or shut the fuck up.
Is OP the same guy from that other thread who bragged about his improv skills, but it turned out he was doing a play by post game?
>>97889052Oh, so now we need examples of play, and not with the spammed "in ur settan" nogames threads?
>>97889071It seems to be.>>97889197It’s cause if you’re going to talk mad shit, you better back it the fuck up with actual examples instead of vagueposts about nothing.
>>97889236>vaguewhat is vague
>>97889243> vague>/vāɡ/>adjective>of uncertain indefinite, or unclear character or meaning.Explain why you are gung ho about sandbox campaigns in specific. Explain what you mean when you say “prepare too much”. Explain why resource tracking is necessary in your ideal game. Explain what it means to “railroad” players, because I’ve seen far too many people abuse that word to describe the most benign shit.In short, stop being vague, asshole. Explain why I should force my players into a sandbox campaign when they have never expressed interest in it before.
>>97889236Seems to be a case of inconsistent standards.
>>97889287Only thing that matters is putting up or shutting up.
>>97889041>Everyone's issues with RPGs are solved...When you start playing other systems. And I mean actually reading them and understanding what they are attempting to say and do, instead of just trying to play every game like D&D and then getting upset that the game isn't D&D.
>>97889281Sandbox is pure RPG, if you don't do them then you're squandering the potential of the medium.
>>97889361Playing other games is a crutch.
>>97889452>continues to vaguepost after being called outYou’ve failed. Get the fuck out and play a real game.
>>97889452So can you post some fun anecdotes of the sandbox games you've run?
>>97889041>>97889197>You don't need to prepare too muchSorry anon but a retard that spouted "don't prep" rhetoric got exposed for being a play-by-post player (not even a GM) on discord so the credibility of anyone saying that you shouldn't prepare is at an all-time low.
>>97889454Vagueposting is a crutch. Now make like Tiny Tim and go die of a mysterious, unspecified illness.
Your bait is boring and your opinions are bad. I will continue to play how I want and run games how I want. You will continue to be nogames and no life.
>>97889041You're everything that's wrong with RPGs today, and very probably a tranny.
>>97889041>Everyone's issues with RPGs are solved when you do sandbox play.But I've never had fun playing a sandbox game.
>>97889307Okay, so the faggots who spam "in ur settan" nogames threads should put up or shut up.
>>97889041>You don't need to prepare too muchblatantly untrue sandboxes require exponentially greater amounts of prep then linear games. simple logic; a square covers more space then a line.
>>97889825So no examples of play, OP?
>>97889485Preparing is good, but you aught not do too much.
>>97889834I don't think you understand a sandbox. It might be the case for most of you, since you're crying about being vague and begging for material to help you.
>>97889041I tried playing my friends rpg like it was a sandbox; I said "I split from the party and travel north until I meet something." And he had no content for me so I was forced to go back. He could tell what I was trying to do and denied me.
>>97889041I like sandbox play. It is not a magic band-aid to issues with the group. It can side-step certain issues that are present in more linear campaigns, but it isn't some magic silver bullet to solve all campaign woes. You can utterly bungle a game in a sandbox in most of the same ways you can utterly bungle a linear campaign.
>>97889052OP won't but I will, from the archives:An Anon has shared an awesome AzteCKS campaign report. Check it out!ttps://mega.nz/file/id51UZqa#9pZoBcVtOF3vssbZ4kON2WN9XAbGvSi-TStiB9nKTxY
>>97889879Not OP. Get consistent with your standards.
>>97889041You're close, but the actual solution to everyone's issues with TTRPGs is a greater willingness to compromise.Are you running for a bunch of storyfags who hate combat, exploration, and survival? Compromise for them, and go as close to freeform as you need, as you all create a narrative together.Is your group composed of people who are there for the game you all agreed upon? Compromise, and make sure you know the rules well enough to fill in any gaps of knowledge, that things are run consistently and fairly.It's easier to talk to your group and find out what they want and be willing to compromise on that, than it is to take "the one CRAZY trick that doctors HATE" some shitposter on /tg/ is spouting off about as a universal truth.
All of the best campaigns I've either played in or run myself had had a clear goal or primary plot if some sort - not a prewritten plot, but something more focused than a sandbox. I've tried pure sandbox play as well, but I've not liked it all that much. Players wrecking whatever the GM had in mind and taking things to a different direction is fine, great even, but in my experience games tend to work better if there's some kind of a clear, strong starting scenario, at the very least.
>>97890792My standards are “stop talking out your ass and provide tangible examples to prove your point or shut up”.>>97890787See, this anon fucking gets it.
OP sounds like he got BTFO in some other thread, so he made this one to "win" the argument.
>>97890905Pretty much. Sandbox campaigns aren’t superior or inferior to a linear campaign in how much fun they produce, it’s about delivering the experience party came for to begin with. Honestly, I find that if you just work out an agreed upon overall goal for the party but otherwise let the players determine how they want to get there themselves, they’ll be a lot happier and less constrained overall than even in a sandbox campaign.
>>97890646A sandbox is not "make some shit up in the fly". If you want to make a world to explore that feels good then you're going to have to prep and prep harder then any linear campaign since the players can go anywhere.
>>97890881Okay, so the "in ur settan" slop thread spammer should stop talking out of his ass and provide tangible examples he plays games, or shut up.
>>97891266Yes, just like how faggots like OP should be actually providing examples instead of talking out their asses. Spammers and OP are both scum worthy of derision. We don’t have to focus solely on one or the other, we can castigate both.
>>97891308>we can castigate bothSo where is your castigation for the "in ur settan" faggot?Put up or shut up, remember?
>>97890787The only good thing that guy ever wrote was this embarrassing meltdown after people ridiculed him for being a boring GM, and it's only good as a pure example of the cringiest sort of loser lashing out at everyone in total frustration.
>>97891314I have no love for that tosser and he should be banned, but unless he posts in thread, his existence is irrelevant to everyone. Why the sudden obsession over this red herring?
>>97891337lol you're still doing that >I've been on a years long trolling campaign but it everyone else who's having a meltdown bit
>>97891372I'm honestly wondering how he even found the post at this point.He must be sitting on the archive day in, day out, hammering F5 on certain key phrases, just waiting for his chance to try and shit up a thread.
>>97891338>his existence is irrelevant to everyoneHis existence is spamming up the board with nonsense threads, nonsense threads you seem to be absent from whenever they crop up, in spite of your expressed attitude for putting up or shutting up.I just thought it was odd someone seemingly so vehemently opposed to threads that don't put up their own experiences with games is mysteriously absent from those threads and willing to deflect from the harm they've been doing.But the fact you call him a "red herring" reveals your true nature.You're a hypocrite, a liar, and a waste of resources.
>>97891372>>97891396>immediately trying to perform damage controlNice try, but you're the guy who decided to try and shill your game in the /3eg/ during its last kickstarter and got laughed out by everyone there. That's when you had your super-cringe meltdown./tg/ doesn't forget that kind of faggotry easily, especially when it's known you'll start shitting yourself with even the slightest bit of pressure.
>>97891430You're like a textbook on malignant narcissism. We've all seen it fish.
>>97891442>"we" all agree with me!>everyone who disagrees is one guy!Oh boy, are you gearing up for another embarrassing "screaming into the void" meltdown?
>>97891404Anon, that particular spammer is a faggot. OP is a faggot. Those are both facts. You are acting like the board can’t hate both wastes of space in the same thread. Or in an uncharitable light, you’re trying to change the topic to discuss some other loser in a case of whataboutism to divert attention away from calling out OP on being a vague posting lower talking out his ass. Either way, take your pills.And I’m still waiting for those examples of play from OP to prove why sandbox campaigns are so great, btw.
>>97891404All of those threads are full of people telling him to fuck off or asking about what game he's talking about. You're also more than welcome to pose the question of examples to him yourself if you think it'd be hypocritical not to. Just because somebody calls out one thread in particular doesn't suddenly make them the board police responsible for calling out every thread in exitsance. All you're doing it providing cover for OP by suggesting that nobody can press him for details because there are worse threads out there. Meanwhile the ability to press everyone from details already exists, and you're the one wasting time by pretending a choice has to be made.
>>97891337>Beelines for the only thread-relevant post and immediately starts dramapostingFuck off retard.
