If nudity/sex/rape is forbidden in your games then so should aggravated assault and murder be as well. >nooo you can't engage in the oldest profession of humanity>but cutting a dude and spilling his guts on the floor, making him scream in agony for his mother as he bleeds out is fine and dandy
>>97897465I'm actually in a game rn that is basically a fetish free for all, we can all express our kinks with out pc's and the gm gears the camp to our taste.
>>97897465>your game should cater to some random faggot on the internet rather than anyone actually playing itYou need to stop being a stupid piece of shit trying to dictate other people's lives.
>>97897465Don't pretend you don't know ful well why you were beaten and kicked out, you degenerate.
>>97897465If a dude gets a boner describing his toon disemboweling someone, he also goes home.
>>97897537>toonOk, boomer.
>>97897540Millennial. Meaning I’ve actually played a game or two, zoomie zoom.
>>97897553I've never heard another millennial call their character a "toon". I've only ever heard it from older boomers.
>>97897465>If nudity/sex/rape is forbidden in your gamesThey aren't, though.
>>97897570If you'd said Gen X I might have believed you. People in their 70's and 80's are not the people you are describing.
No.And if anyone disagrees with that no then they aren't allowed to play at my table. It's really that simple. No retarded argument about how you should totally be able to gay erp in public will change my mind. In fact it will just make me judge you with contempt.
>>97897465My table, my rules. You don't like my rules, you can fuck off if you're part of that group. If you aren't, then your opinion means fuck all to me lol
im assuming you dont play with friends, because what kind of fucking deranged freak uses ttrpgs as a proxy for pervisions like that. you fucking transgender freak
>>97897465I've never explicitly banned any theme or activity from my games, and never felt the need to, because I exclusively play with normal people from my irl friend group, not weird strangers off the internet who might be trying to masturbate under the table.
>>97897465>forbidden in your gamesNone of that stuff would be coming up in my games to begin with, here's why:>nudityDepending on how nude, it's less and less practical. My characters get to very indulgent levels of beef/cheese cake, but if a man rocks out with his cock out, he'd better believe it's going to get kicked, just as a woman with her nips exposed is definitely going to get them twisted at some point. Skin is nice, but a reasonable level of coverage is still necessary.>sexGoing over the sexual acts of the party simply takes time away from the game. The forces that cause pregnancy requires full willingness between both parties, so accidents don't happen, regardless of how many sticky loads are pumped into her.Plus, there are plenty of in-world religions encouraging multiple forms of casual consensual sex, so it's not like it's a universal taboo. It helps that STDs/STIs and such aren't a thing.That aside, when I want to jerk off, I have plenty of sexual scenarios involving my characters I can think about outside the game; when I want to play a game, I play a damn game.>rapeIt is a thing that unfortunately happens in the world. Not as often as in ours, but it happens.It is severely punished by numerous societies, and where the law doesn't know/can't catch perpetrators, there's always people who might make someone disappear over it.This applies as much to male victims as it does to female victims, too. Given that the people of my worlds are largely altruistic, it stands to reason that consent is of huge importance.But, once again, I play games when I want to play games, and jerk off when I want to jerk off; and I hate pretty much every form of non-consensual sexual scenario imaginable.That aside, it'd be impractical for characters to do those things anyway; what are they going to do, rape the monsters? Violate a skeleton? And assaulting each other is out of the question, when you remember that they're heroes and are largely altruistic.[ 1/2 ]
>>97897465Yeah, my games don't have murder.
>>97897570I've mostly seen it come from people who played WoW entirely too long before ever touching a TTRPG. Most of those being middle-aged millennials now
>>97897465>Let me tell you how to run your tableNope.
>>97897465OK but consider: You have plenty of heroes that save the day by killing the villains, but how many heroes do you know that saved the day by fucking the villains, besides pic related?
>>97897465How about “NO”And this is not up for discussion,Now, why don’t you either stop being a creep, or leave the table? Trust me nobody’s going to miss you based on this post.
[ Cont. from >>97898073 ]>aggravated assault/murderMy games involve combat against monstrous, irredeemably evil, inhuman, incursive, and corruptive/destructive entities who are in closer semblance to a force of disaster than a living thing.• Dark LordsThe Dark Lords are the closest thing to devils/demons in my game. They use their Evil Doctrine to raise their Nekropoli and enslave Undead, and the dead cities actively drain the Mana from the land, slowly turning it to ashen desert.Left unchecked, entire ecosystems would die off.• MonstersThey don't really cause ecological destruction, but they do harass and kill travelers, and can't be negotiated with, so they're a problem.• TyrantsMuch like the Dark Lords, their power kills the land. However, it's a passive consequence instead of conscious effort, but it still turns the surroundings into volcanic badlands. Plus, they're very warlike, and want to conquer everything they see anyway, so they'd be trouble to keep around even without making everything lava.• XenithA virus that emerged from cyberspace and seeks knowledge. Unfortunately, its means of attaining knowledge involves torturing and eventually roboticizing all living things it can.How do you suppose regulations/laws against aggravated assault or murder apply to them? I'm genuinely curious.[ 2/2 ]
>OP equates sex work to rape to murder
>>97898346You don't have to equate these things to understand that they come as a trio.Also.>"Sex work"Prostitution.We call it prostitution, because we speak English.
>>97898349>I'm an idiot>Here let me demonstrate itThanks anon, that was helpful.
>>97898359>-t. human trafficking apologist
>>97898383>>The average prostitute or whatever is a sex slave.NTA, but you're either a retard, a troll, a christfag, a legbeard or a simp for a legbeard.
>>97898317If someone wanted to murder and disembowel you they'd be a creep.Violence fantasy, sex fantasy, power fantasy is all linked.
>>97898396>NTA, but you're either a retard, a troll, a christfag, a legbeard or a simp for a legbeard.
>>97898359Prostitutes exist in the black market economy, and are frequently subject to the risk of rape and/or murder.If you would apologise to me we can continue.One of my formative memories was living in a flat in Birmingham England, on the eleventh floor or so, and watching a one-legged prostitute (intravenous heroin addict, gangrene, amputee) being chased around the car-park by her machete-wielding pimp.Her false leg was found in a bin, the rest of her never turned up.>That didn't happen ChudIt did, and it happens twice a day every day.
>>97898461>The thing I'm thinking of at this moment is what determines how words are defined and the associations between themlol, this is embarrassing. Please continue.
>>97898439Still no. What part of “not up for discussion” are you not understanding?
>>97898461>Birmingham Englandthat would explain it
>>97898484This is more of four dimensional proximity set theory type of thing.Prostitution, theft, murder, rape, drug addiction; all these exist inside the set of underworld activities; they are found in the same environments and exist in the same ecosystems and environments.Where one goes, the others are never far away, like the shovel and the freshly dug grave.You are being very silly.
Players flirting with NPCs is alright but forcing your GM to essentially flirt with you is bad.
>>97898529>Can't tell the difference between sex work and prostitution>Thinks prostitution is related to rape and murderDon't you have some death metal to blair in your bedroom loud enough that you hope your mommy will hear it? You've got that incel energy, my man. You're well on your way to becoming a wizard.
>>97898349>You don't have to equate these things to understand that they come as a trio.No? What the fuck?
>>97897465Murder and violence can be used to generally advance group-wide goals, and the adversarial nature of them means that the details of precisely what happens during such an encounter is relevant to play.Nudity/sex/rape generally does not advance group-wide goals, the former two's generally non-adversarial nature means the details are largely irrelevant to the continuity of the participating PC. The final is not only a moral violation, but a practicality violation as well; rape accomplishes little in the time-frame of most campaigns that general torture wouldn't. Further, due to the practicality violation, such an act pegs your PC group as outright evil rather than desperate or overzealous, which is generally a bad thing.
>>97898507Given the child prostitution rings in the UK, I agree, OP is probably an expert
>>97897465I've always been particularly aggravated by the 'oldest profession' assertion.It always sounds like the most leftist argument for normalizing libidinous conduct.
We simulate the need for your character to sleep, we should also simulate the need to go the the bathroom too.Different races have different languages, why doesn't the human language change over miles, being unintelligible from one side of a kingdom to the other.Full plate came into common use after guns, why aren't there guns?
>>97898625>we should also simulate the need to go the the bathroom too.
>>97898543The real incels are the sad fucks like you who are so repulsive they need to PAY to have sex.
>>97897465>i only have fun with rape>let me rape or don't let anyone else have fun either
>>97898073>>97898321You wasted your time.How does it feel?
>>97897465>but cutting a dude and spilling his guts on the floor, making him scream in agony for his mother as he bleeds out is fine and dandyStop putting your gore fetish into the game.
>>97898693I read that and at least it's informative, if autistic (not in insult sense). I prefer honest, genuine autism over noncommital shitposting designed to throttle any discussion and lower the quality of this shithole board even further.
>>97897465Rape and sexual assault are both vastly more common than aggravated assault and murder, so the former is much more likely to make someone uncomfortable at the table. What is and what is not allowed at the table is not based on arbitrary categories, but if it will or won't make the experience unpleasant for someone. If you can't understand that then you have brain problems. In addition, while you can justify violence, there is never any moral reason to rape.
>>97898802>there is never any moral reason to rape.Currently that might be true, historically there were times when it could be a life-saving measure, thus morally justifiable.
>>97897465Finally, a /tg/ user with common sense. In My games I simply don't allow evil characters. Rape and wanton violence are for the villains only.>>97898321This sounds fun Anon
>>97898829>historically there were times when it could be a life-saving measure, thus morally justifiable.I genuinely can't think of a single instance, either current or historical, in which raping someone is the better option. Maybe in an absurd hypothetical, like>Oh no, aliens are invading and if you don't have non-consensual sex they'll kill everyone!!! But never in anything remotely close to realistic.
>>97898866Robespierre's Reign of Terror - as a general rule pregnant noblewomen were spared, so knocking one up, even against her will, would be a life-saving measure.On more general terms - in the face of secular justice pregnant women were often exempt from death sentence, even for crimes that would otherwise guarantee capital punishment (piracy, treason).
>>97897465>If nudity/sex/rape is forbidden in your games then so should aggravated assault and murder be as well.Only male fantasies are acceptable on my table.
>>97898944Based as fuck.
>>97898262
>>97898866In current context, with definition of rape getting generalized to include non-penetrative acts (that would historically only classify as harrasment) administering CPR could be both life-saving and classify as rape. Broadly speaking "invasive" medical procedures performed on patient that's unconscious or otherwise unable to consent.
>>97898802>there is never any moral reason to rapeTake a good look at the absolute state of the modern woman and then try to say that again with a straight face.
>>97898802>No moral reason to rapeWhy do you think we let inmates rape pedophiles? It's the objectively moral position.
>>97898955Crossover when?
Wow I can't believe CoD doesn't have whores. Everyone knows you can't have violence without whores.
>>97897465My players can have sex but I'm going to fade to black every time as I'm not here to do a live ERP in front of everyone.
>>97899105Never played CoD online?
>>97899111You don't want to live ERP in front of everyone? You must be a hypocrite because you're fine with acting out violence.
>>97897465>TOWddler image>dumb edgy tourist postAs expected of /v/ermin.
>>97899006>we let inmates rapeThat's cruel and unusual punishment; a perverse sense of justice. Taking away people's dignity after they go to prison undermines your own human rights.
>>97899111>My players can have sex but I'm going to fade to black every timeShould fade to mood lighting when players have sex at the table.
>>97899155I get where you're coming from but in CoD online everyone's moms are whores, there's just no whores IN the game.
>>97899218>"I'm going to take the wench into the storeroom then." >"Ok, sure. Alexa, set lights to 'sultry'">Group now has to play DND with a purple tint on everythingWould be good as a laugh.
>>97899227Don't forget to play Careless Whisper in the background.
>>97899241>Trying to roleplay a hard negotiation between the rest of the party and a local information broker under mood lighting and slow jazzHonestly, it would be worth it for a laugh.
>>97897465Continue crying about how your GM doesn't want to ERP with you, faggot.
>>97897465Nah.
>>97898461>It did, and it happens twice a day every day.One legged hookers get changed around Birmingham?No wonder the place is broke if that's what the locals spend all their time doing.
>>97898110I think the term came from some MMO where you played a cartoon character (it may been Toon Town) and it at some point became to mean characters overall.
>>97897465it's unsavory, no one wants to hear about that shit
>>97897486found the railroader
>>97899668no, the trpg Toon from the 80sdo i know why this one term became commonplace when Toon itself isn't very well known? no
>>97898073I once had a group where the only female player would strip tease and the DM gave her in game benefits. It was neat at first but it got a little too weird for me.
>>97900117Based if it actually was the player, not the PC
This take is such a 105 iq retard take.
>>97899179Pedophiles have dignity?
>>97900662Depends on how you treat them. Humans deserve dignity as a basic right, even if the individual does not. This is a principle. I know lynching, mutilating, and torturing pedos sounds fun, but people who committed lesser crimes or innocents could suffer that treatment as well. Imagine getting your balls chopped for a jpeg, or being labled a pedo because the woman was petite, or because he said she said. Eitherway, most prison rape isn't as ethically sourced as you imagine.
>>97902377>Humans deserve dignity as a basic rightWhy is that?
>>97897465nudity/sex/rape is forbidden in my games and I don't have any 14 year olds in my table, so this is never something that is argued against
>>97897465Traditional games?
>>97897465It’s typical of the US: they have an extremely violent culture mixed with puritanism. They seem incapable of viewing any form of sexuality in a positive or normalised light; anything to do with sex is a fetish (apart from rape). What’s more, they tend to see everything in black and white… The sad thing is that they’ve exported all that crap all over the world.
>>97902460>wtf why can't i make people ERP with me fucking americans!!!!!Your favela DM blesses America every day for restraining your horny ass, if that's true.
>>97902382Because human lives have inherent value. That's an ideal, not an observation. A conclusion based on many centuries of history and philosophy. They were probably on to something.
>>97900662There are two types:Preferential (approx. 50–60% of offenders): These individuals have a persistent, primary sexual interest in children. This group is most closely linked to the "neurodevelopmental" theory, showing higher rates of minor neurological signs (like non-right-handedness or lower IQ).Individuals who have a pedophilic orientation but never offend (sometimes called "non-offending pedophiles") often show higher activity in the prefrontal cortex (the neocortex) and better executive function than those who do offend.This suggests that the "neocortex" acts as a brake; when it is impaired by brain injury, cognitive deficits, or substance abuse, the ability to inhibit those "miswired" urges drops significantly.Situational (approx. 40–50% of offenders): These individuals typically have an orientation toward adults but offend due to external factors like high stress, intoxication, or "regressing" because they feel inadequate in adult relationships.Clinical estimates suggest that between 0.5% and 1% of the male population meets the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.In some anonymous surveys, up to 3% to 5% of men report some level of sexual interest in minors, though the vast majority of these individuals never act on those feelings.
A significant portion of people have Ephebophilia and to lesser extend Hebephilia. These are not classified as sexual disorders because they are part of the normal range of sexuality. Outside of the scientific world, the word "pedophile" has undergone "concept creep," where a specific clinical term has expanded to cover any sexual behavior involving a minor. Most legal jurisdictions don't care about the Greek roots of the words. They categorize crimes based on the "Age of Consent." This is because, legally and socially, the focus is on the vulnerability of the minor and the breach of law, rather than the biological orientation of the adult. In research papers or at psychiatric conferences, you will never hear a 17-year-old’s attraction called pedophilia.
