Frog Cinderblock editionPrevious Heresy: >>97890351>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread Question:Should Custodes really have vehicles?
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>>97903578>Should Custodes really have vehicles?They wouldn't be able to properly execute their function as bodyguard of the Emperor without them. But I really hate the Eldar grav tank rip-offs that cuckstodes got, so ugly.
>>97903578Man I saw one of these in person recently and Jesus christ they're so big. Bigger than their stats or the pictures imply. And yet, even they don't look like they could actually fit 7 custodes inside once you take away to grav nacelles lol.
>>97903578yeah but they should have been more like sisters style parade floats
>>97903578Slowly building a unit of cavalry for 1.0 following mournival's imperial army homebrew.
>>97903629Meant for >>97903601. Kinda of a shame that through all of the damned's kits there isn't a single left hand holding a machete because ak47 autogun+machete would shred imo.
>>97901524>Command squad stands on objective worth 3 VPUnits cannot be deployed on or end movement on objective markers.
>>97903652It obviously meant in range of the objective and around it, not literally physically on the objective marker, autist-kun.
Thanks for the replies back in the previous thread, I have a follow-up question: did the Incubi exist during the Heresy as well? I'm getting very mixed messages when searching for it.
>>97903714Probably, yes. Aspect warriors from the oldest shrines show up in HH novels, and some sources (6th edition eldar codex iirc) say Arhra betrayed the other Phoenix Lords shortly after the Fall of the Eldar.
>>97903578>TQBig guns to go with having the best fighters and premium dreadnoughts is fine. It's Sisters that should fulfill many of the other odd niches they don't bother with, with psykers obviously off-limits, but GW gutted the fuck out of them in 3.0, so...Now when will they do an Aquilon Shield-Captain? Coasting on effectively one HQ and a half for however long in Heresy is pretty fucking lousy.
>>97903578>TQWhy not?You are hardpressed to counter enemy vehicles with infantry alone, unless terrain is high or you have high speed to get in to melta range.As they are a fighting force, not having vehicles would be very odd.I'm more surprised the venatari do not have more dedicated anti-vehicle gear.
>>97903633Yeah, the lack of options for offhand items is really a shame. Besides that, this range is amazing.
Two more dudes done, technically sergeants but their squads probably aren't going to get painted
>>97903941Nice, that combibolter reminds me of Borderlands with that rectangular scope. Where’d you get the scope and the spear?
>>97903578>you've got the touch>you've got the powerrrrrr
>>97903993The spear is from Moloch, the minotaur guy, the bolter is the SoH banestrike bolter from the kit
>>97903578>TQWhy the hell not? Should the Emperor's Ten Thousand be obliged to walk onto the enemy's guns without their own fire support?>>97903629Any demand for an Imperial Army homebrew in 3.0? I was going to write one for 2.0 but procrastinated so much the new edition came out.
>>97904016I don't play 3.0 but don't let that stop you from hammering out an army list. Here's the mournival stuff for 1.0 if you want a starting pointmega.nz/folder/pRBSgAxZ#wsz_TBnE0BxjUw8GWEWK9gImperialis auxilia has the imperial army.
>>97903668>erm ackshuallyShut the fuck up faggot. Retards like you are why GW had to clarify that conceding is a game loss.
>>97903601Postin
>tqTransports yes, tanks no, their job is to catch bullets for EMoney, not get into slap fights with enemy armour.The same reasoning sorta as why I headcanon muh dudes to have all their vehicles operated by servitors, Astartes have advantages over humans in every respect sure, but their greater ones are being tougher, stronger and faster, which comes into play most in hand to hand combat, not sitting in the driver's seat of a rhino.
>>97903601Great color on your SoH. I like it.
got a ton of old male custards primed gold, is the forge world scheme just a green wash and highlights?
>>97903601Slowly working on gunline dreads
hello lads!
>>97903941why no squad paint?
>>97902279Man, your making my credit card finger twitch....making me consider a nemesis over an OG Thunderhawk from wartable...>>97904254Holy fucking SHIT the saturnine dread is massive....
>>97904605>Thunderhawk from wartableFrom wartable?
>>97904608Nice try James
>>97904622OH its a recaster got it. Say no more. Ithought it was like a print shop that sold STLs of "legally distinct thunderhawks"
freaky Friday!
>>97903714no eldar didn't exist in heresy no aliens did they only spawned later because of chaos or something all mentions of aspect shrines, harlequins, ork raiders, squats, rangdan or other aliens during, immediately before and immediately after the heresy are all lies.
>>97904678Unfortunately it is a pretty fucking dire game. People only like it because they liked epic, they are not at all of comparable quality
>>97904537is that a fiskars mat? I have the same one
>>97904678>olden demonmega fag, defends 10e on literal sales and popularity grounds. opinion discarded.
>>97904865It is indeed anon, good eye
>>97904404Looks like flesh shade or sepia over the bulk of the model, with something like sotek green in very specific places around rivets and similar.
>>97904864nobody liked epic, netepic was people who couldn't admit they'd invested too much time in an unfun game gritting their teeth and making it worse instead of admitting defeat
>>97905077excellent choice. served me well on many tabletop projects
>>97905100that's pretty on the nose for the horus heresy general of all places
>>97904678>Grifters posting clickbait/ragebait hyperboleIn other news, water is wet.Also, buy an ad.
>>97904537>Havoc launcher on the plasma dreadNothing personal, but after the launch of 3.0 every time I see anybody put havoc launchers on stuff I automatically assume they are a faggot.
>>97904537Traitor XIXth my beloved
>>97904605Do it, titans are cooler than giant planesI just started on a pre-owned reaver, already built but needs a repaint>>97905162not him but looks > rules3/4/5/6.0 will come and go but havoc launchers will still look cool
>>97905162>I hate that GW finally made a shit weapon half decent?????Also fuck you they look cool as shit.
>>97905251>a weapon is half decent because it inflicts a status as part of a contrived system no one asked fordifferent strokes I guess
>>97905162I always put havoc launchers on my dudes cause more gun equals more shootan
>>97905251
>>97905269no its half decent now because it adds a status and blast rules made it so that small blast actually hits its target more often then not. Thats why its better. in 1.0 and 2.0 statistically speaking, small blast MISSED more then it would hit.
>>97905151yeah but at least we're not maintaining a rulebook, can you imagine the slop we'd birth
>>97905288I don't need to imagine I've seen the kind of shit people spew as rule "improvements" unironically
>>97905336I have a rules improvement I'm giving custodian guards plasma cannons I think it will be a great way to fight back against overpowered units like custodian guards
>>97905195Noice. I currently have a reaver, two legit warhounds and a recast warhound from wartable. Would grab it but I might have to wait a bit as I JUST found a different recasting site that actually claims to have the OG Aquilla Lander, ive been looking for one of those forever to add to my ever increasing resin fentanyl collection....
>>97905459I have a reaver and warhound built but needing repaint and a second warhound unbuilt in box. all legit but secondhand. gives me my favourite Titanicus maniple (venator) to take to TOC events here in the UK.need to find some decent files for warhound voliktes and meltaguns though
>>97905459>two legit warhounds
I wanna make a SA army but I suck at painting so i'm just going to do krieg nd keep using my scuffed mecanicum list
>>97905548Isn't it possible to figure out some fool proof colour scheme for SA, with a lot of shades/washes? The models look textured enough for it.
>>97905548I was having a really hard time figuring out what I wanted to paint and this video was great, tried them all out and really liked the Agathon recolor. https://youtu.be/Zg2aHqXP3q4?si=XimKDdr9Ash7oxYr
>>97905570I saw a tutoria where the guy painted the armour the just coloured the rest of the model around it, might try that
>>97905548Solar aux aren't any more difficult to paint than kreigers, assuming you painted them. The armour is quite raised so you can do the under suit first then tidy up when you do the armour. they take contrast very well too.
He's getting closer and closer to completion, I keep getting sidetracked with other painting projects. Also finished a metric fuckton of terrain and printing out an Imperial Fortress.Post some fatties anons
>>97905662Ye I started painting krigers, I don't think they look as bad, i thought the krigers would be hard, but they aren't at all
>>97905701that doesn't look nearly as bad as you implied, and cameras always make your models look worse.looks like you're staying within the lines, managing to pick out straps and the tiny eagles. Solar aux won't be any worse than that.
>>97905732Thank you, i think i just get in my own head, I'll try my SA once I've finished my krieg
I'd noticed a couple of days ago that A Thousand Sons had received a second audiobook narration. So I decided to do a bit of a test, by mixing both.>Narration by Gareth Armstrong, and dialogue by Martin Ellis:https://voca.ro/128wfj3peErD
Which Warhound pattern is best Warhound pattern?
>>97905896I do be liking mars, but i also like the lucius pattern alot, but im going to say mars....because i own one....
>>97905904I think the Mars is an objectively better design honestly.But that fortress look of the Lucius... daddy like
>>97905896Depends on personal preference. I just like the brutal, blocky look of the Lucius pattern more.
>>97905504I know someone here knows where to get a volkite for a full sized warhound, but of course when you ask them where they got it its just shitty memes about james and recasters getting "shut down" if theyre EVER mentioned.
>>97904593I built them for 2.0 and changed my oaths so the loadout isn't appealing, and I ripped 2 for bits so now it's a weird squad of 8, and I'm not really interested in cataphractii since I'm not using my warmonger like I was planning.
>>97905283>small blast MISSED more then it would hiHow many scatter dice did they use to roll?>>97904663I like EC as Paragons / Obsessed with perfection better than Muh Excess.Like, turns out Slaanesh isn't the Lord of Excess. It's the Lord of Sex Drugs and Rock & Roll Specifically. 360 no scope? Pfft here's a guitar faggot
>>97904683I love that xenos saw the monkeighs busy killing each other and all collectively decided to do a galactic cease fire.Nah jk, they did attack while humies weren't looking...but we collectively don't care and are too busy literally counting rivets on armour
>>97906088Blasts used to always be 2D6 scatter, minus BS, unless you rolled a hit. For BS 4 this meant scattering 3" was the most likely result.
>>97906088>How many scatter dice did they use to roll?same as everything else, 2d6. And average scatter would be 7" - BS which was 4, meaning you scattered on average 3" problem is, scattering 3" means you miss a 32mm target, and just barely clip a 40mm target.
>>97906088WE HAVE SUCH SOUNDS TO SHOW YOU
>>97906088>I like EC as Paragons / Obsessed with perfection better than Muh Excess.That's the best way for them to be in HH, starting them down the path of Slaanesh. And I'm fine with them devolving over 10,000 years into "muh excess" by 40k. Though you have to admit, Fulgrim always was a bit excessive.
>>97906177And as I paint them up, EC's unique models do have an absolutely excessive amount of fucking trim.
>>97906088>scatterTo follow up on what everyone else said: Your BS didn't help you land direct hits. Your BS3 Militia fire support squad had the same chance of landing a direct hit with a frag missile as your BS5 Veteran Tacticals; that is, 1/3, because the scatter die had 2 hit faces. It was OK on bigger targets and/or bigger blasts because you couldn't scatter far enough to actually miss, but it got to the point where plasma TSS were actually stronger than plasma HSS purely because you couldn't count on your plasma cannons to hit infantry model, whereas the plasma gun was just straight up 2 shots at BS4.
>>97906262>Your BS didn't help you land direct hits.I mean it kinda did. You could roll a direct hit, but the high your BS, the higher you had to roll before you started to scatterWith a BS of 4, rolling a 2, 3 or 4 on the scatter die was just as good as rolling a direct hit. So i mean yeah it did kinda matter. BUT yes, The reason scatter sucked in 1.0 and 2.0 is because GW had been using the same scatter template size since 3rd, and the problem is bases did not stay the same size, so it was a lot harder to get more hits. But yeah large templates did not have this problem becusae 2d6 - BS4 resulted in a hit on the intended target on average with a large blast .Either way 3.0 blast rules? Big brained.
>>97906262A nuncio vox (provided re-rolls for scatter in 2.0) did make plasma cannon hss quite reliable. But resolving up to 10 scatters with re-rolls took forever, easily doubled the duration of a shooting phase.
>>97906319plus the other thing always was....you could just take las canons for the same cost iirc
>>97906149Speaking of, are the Kakophoni figures wearing MK VII armor? Sure as fuck looks like it in the pics. Would adding bits from the "modern day" noise marines, like their backpacks for instance, be heresy approved? I also want to get a bunch of recasts of the single noise marine figure they made (that you used to see all over ebay and even amazon for like $25, now you cant find a legit once for less than a cool hundo, fucking scalpers and fucking GW with their artificial scarcity bullshit) and use the guitar shaped blast master on some heresy era figures. Fuck GW for not giving them guitars, the Fulgrim book said that their weapons were also STRING BASED instruments, and I know...>hur dur BL slopI dont care, noise marines with insane guitar combi bolters, hell, even crazy combi weapon violins/mandolins/stand up fucking basses would be awesome.
>>97903601Very WIP, but i got the first pass of airbrushing done on my Custodes battlegroup. >>97903578>TQYes, but no more than a single custodes crew per vehicle.
>>97906689Ooooh, how was the tank assembly? Could you take a snappie of the bottom so I can see how it lines up with the base, please?
almost done with this squad lads, just gotta clean up some unintentional defects, finish off the weathering and probably paint some corrosion on the plating then dunk these guys in seraphim sepia (all my legionaries are in a similar state to this guy now)
>>97906770the tank was pretty easy, it went together without too much fuss. By far the fiddliest kit in the box was the dreadnought, but that's mostly for the sake of poseability, so I forgive it. Funny thing - when I was assembling the tank, one of the grav-plates disappeared on me, so I had to make a greenstuff mold of the piece and recast it with milliput. Worked out pretty well imo.
>>97905904I see you also did the footprint thing for your Warhound.Good choice, adds a lot of stability.I will have to finish mine.
>>97905251cool mini, but the mould lines on the should pad irks me
>>97903601slow yet steady progress
>>97903578Well of course, Mr Emperor's motorcade was probably in the thousands everytime he moved to kiss some babies before elections (elections meant bombing your planet to the stone age)
Working on my Iron Hands assault marines. >>97906939Beautiful anon.
>>97907663Jesus fucking compression Christ.
>>9790361540k vehicles are out of scale with infantry, shrunk down. That's why I avoid having a little dude pop out the top hatch at all costs.
>>97907768This isn't 40k.
>>97907875Yeah it is, it's just a different era of the setting. There's not really a world here where you get to pretend that the scale is different bro.
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>>97907909These look like shit.
>>97907909That's a big marine.
>>97906919Nice job anon
>>97907909It needs to be bigger after all terminator armour was also called the tactical dreadnought armour.
Are the Assault Marines, the jump pack ones, different poses than the bodies used for tacticals?Wondering if it might be worth getting a box to mix into some squads to change up posing a bit.
>>97908167They'll look odd if you mix because they have plating in the front as part of the Jump Pack
>>97908182Ah, damn.Do you think they could work as IW Breacher bodies, at least? Extra plating could make sense for Veterans.
>>97908193Seen one anon do that, it looked alright for breachers.
>>97908199Cool, could be worth a shot. The MK2 assault bodies with breacher upgrades and IW heads (really wish GW did more than just the MK6 ones) could make them stand out a bit more.
>>97907909P H A THAT
>>97905441I'm giving them 2+++ FNP because they're supersuperhuman
>>97905276>>97905162Leviathans should be able to wrist mount havocs, fite me
>>97908193If youre doing breachers the posing issue stops being a problem because of all of the different ways you can kitbash a shield and other weapon onto them, but yeah this could probably work.
>>97908193good for melee breachers maybe for the moar dynamic pose
>>97908653>buy a box of mk2 assaults and breachers >make ashen circle and veteran breacher squad by swapping the arms and packs
>>97906927Thanks, sweet.
What am I getting into.Doors will be 12" up and 12" across.The wall is gonna be 4 ft across.
>>97908929What even is that
>>97909140Side portion of a giant door.Based off this STL set using the extended walls (approximately twice as high as the ones in that picture)
>>97903601Built a vet breacher squad. Might need to add more bits (maybe chain some skulls to the front of the shields?)
>>97904678Olden Demon is straight up a shithead. Let him fade into deserved obscurity
>>97905701Krieg as Solar Aux is kino but also I don’t think Krieg is that much easier to paint than solar aux.
>big gap between the right hand and body of the bolter on the left>bolter so angled compared to the right hand on the left that you can see the flat part of the trigger guard that's suppose to be against the back of the magazine well of the bolterHow did these pass assembly, let alone get photographed?
Slowly painting my way through some batches of infantry
how much tolerance do /you/ have for kitbashing night lords when it comes to putting them in distinctly off-legion armor they presumably stole and redecorated
>>97909692Those look like some fine and upstanding citizens.
>>97909733Are you building blood angels and painting them in NL colors or something? Just how evident is it?
>>97903601Working on my unfinished minis
>>97909733As an NL player? I use Pollux and Corswain in my collection. But I have also removed all relevant insignia from them. If you mean "actual iconography"? As long as its clearly "scavenged" rather than "a model from another legion painted blue".
Is solar auxilia really the only thing they have for humans? I’m not a fan of steam punk shit.
>>97910429There's also militia. Gotta decide which models you wanna use for everything yourself, but their rules are free.
>>97910429If only there was a way to models with a design you enjoy, but where could one find human troopers with some armour and a laser rifle?
>>97910429Theres militia, which has basically any human aesthetic you want.
>>97910429>steam punkit's The Phantom Planet punk you fucking retard
>>97904254Ah Death Guard.The first resort for shit painters everywhere
How are we still working with these dogshit PDFs? By this point, we had perfect scans for 2nd ed.
>>97909232Where'd you get the shoulders?
>>97910829A recaster. Theyre just the old MKII ones.
>>97910815No we didn't. For 2.0 GW still released digital EPUB of the rulebooks, and converting those to PDF was piss easy and takes little time compared to having to manually scan every page of a physical book. Which is what is needed for 3.0, because GW stopped releasing digital versions of the rulebooks. Which is frankly insane, the weight of the main rulebook, liber astartes, and some journals is not trivial for anybody who isn't a healthy reasonably fit guy.
>>97910930The books arent that heavy. But yea, its super inconvenient.
>>97911007As much as I hate people spending time scrolling on their phones during a game, GW's games are un-ironically being carried by 3rd party apps.
>>97907909Oh I get the irony now. You say that whenever you post something horrible
>>97908167They can be useful for posing. Arms are the big thing. I tried using normal mk2 to make an adherent squad and they came out looking kind of stupid thanks to arm poses, the assault squad arms are much better for melee + gun. The chest plates might look weird though.
>>97909232Chang doesnt sell the lascutters a la carte, I want to do vet breachers so badly but they literally only fucking come in singles from entire breacher upgrade kits. This infuriates me to no end
>>97910930Blessings be upon scanon
>>97910930>the weight of the main rulebook, liber astartes, and some journals is not trivial for anybody who isn't a healthy reasonably fit guy.
>>97911532>Chang doesnt sell the lascutters a la carte?
>>97911391Well it's mostly oversized truescale stuff, but you're right
