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>TQ All Marines and everything connected to them
>>97906063>What needs to be squatted?Just get it over with and remove the Eldar factions.
>>97906063TQThe Stilt Mechancius model needs to be squatted.That model is too silly even by 40k silly standards.Devastators too. Same deal.
I like orks :D
>>97906063>What needs to be squatted?Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum.Get rid of them and the worst players and secondaries disappear instantly.
Something weird that I noticed is that the alphas in the new hastarii are equipped with the main weapon even though the model doesn't appear to carry it. Kinda wish they had a way to include it.
Would anyone miss it?
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97906063>What needs to be squatted?Slave barges and titties
>>97906100Only the base version with the big "TITAN" plate on his crotch.
>>97906100No the baby carrier grey knight models are genuinely bad models.Nundams too.
>>97906105Wrong. 40k, if anything, should have MORE titties.
>>97906105We need more slaves and more (bare) titties
>>97906100I think I would, not because it's a good model, but because the conversions people come up with create GREAT models. It's the ultimate "convert more" filter.
>>979060631. Primarchs2. Primaris3. Femstodes4. Shit Xeno factionsThere 40k fixed.
>>97906100Is part of our lives already probably one of the few things you remember when talking about grey knights lol
>TQSquat all 4 chaos legions and make legions of the damned so I can salvage the tzaangors (the only good thing to come from thousand sons) and put them to work in a better army.
>>97906139>It's the ultimate "convert more" filter.NTA butwhat are some other examples of these kinds of models?Preferably ordered on a basis of how much hobby skills is required from retard proof to master converter level too please.
97906146not even worth the (you)
Rate my color scheme.
>>97906063>TQYou don't even have to squat them, but please put GK, Custodes, Death Watch, and Imperial Agents into a generic Imperium codex.
>>97906152Imperial Agents have so much potential but the fucking book is horrible...
>>97906151thanks, doc
>>97906151Thanks, Doc.
>>97906150What’s wrong?
>>97906151Danke, doktor
>>97906085Are the guard really the worst players/secondaries in the 40k collective? Can I have examples/evidence please?>t. guard playerMost of this is so I can be the exception that proves the rule at the very least.
>>97906160Imperial Agents is to four-tea-gay what Dogs of War were to Fantasy. Such a dogshit army, only useful for showhorning whatever units you like into other armies.
Is it a hot take to say the imperium has ruined chaos?
>>97906169Adolf enthusiasts, son>>97906170Imperial Agents are the Inquisition corps anon, not merely mercernaries.
>>97906180They're also homosexuals
>>97906180>Adolf enthusiasts, sonGonna need more detailing than just that, chief. Your post before that (if you are the anon) implied that there is a lot more to it.
just finished my first vehicle… an evil suns looted rhino! very pleased with how it turned out.
>>97906063>tqGuard
>>97906151Salutations, Apothecary.
>>97906151Merci docteur
>>97906194Good job. Thin your paints and the next one will look great.
>>97906151Gracias, doc
>>97906151I don’t understand why no one who replied to you is rating, but I’d give it a 9/10 gives me piccolo vibes.
fat fuck
>>97906246what is the purpose of removing all your flesh only to give yourself a giant mechanical beer belly? what’s stored in that metal sphere?
Fun fact, Shield Captains on bikes and in Terminator armor only exist in 40k
if anyone wants to join the unofficial 40kg painters discord here's the link. all you have to do is post models once you join and you're all set. it's a comfy chill server. alot of thread regulars post models there with no judgment or shitposting. https://discord.gg/ejaDHkwPHn
>>97906063>TQNecron Flayers.
>>97906257fuck off
>>97906250beer
>>97906194good job anonthrow a couple spare grots on it when you get a chance
Traitor Guard Codex when?
I am seriously thinking about acquiring a stormraven. I know flyers are shit but GW keeps squatting shit I thought would be cool, like the eldar webway gay as terrain. Flyers are cool I like the models where people replace the dumb see through stand with shit like the canopy of a forest, the side of a building or a mountain cliff like the vehicle is flying over it or launching missiles and shit.Warhammer isn't 'expensive' in any of the subgames if you're just buying one of the starter boxes- saw a guy on ebay selling the old Wood Elf/sylvaneth box for 65 bucks, 500 points of models- but once you get into the nitty gritty and aren't just buying intercessors or kabalites as footsoldiers and instead more obscure models like a voidraven suddenly you're paying 80 bucks for a single vehicle where you got your third raider used for 30 bucks with no crew except the gunner.
>>97906298I really don't expect them to ever get a full codex army, but something like Brood Brothers where they get Imperial Guard Vehicles would be a nice detachment.
>>97906063>tqCadia does not stand.>>97906147There's an anon here who converted Raptors (chapter) primaris vehicles that don't look like toys.>>97906257>no judgment or shitposting.ingloriousbasterds.jpg
Why did 1d4chan have such a hate on for the Praetors of Orpheus? Just association with Matt Ward?
>>97906334that's why they need a lost and the damned codex encompassing traitors, mutants, renegades and the dark mechanicus.
>Stricking Scorpions are the Elf ninjas of the setting>The best student of the dojo becomes evil on his quest for physcial power, betrays/kills the sensei and has to be defeated by the second best student trope is subverted becasue the dojo master himself Arha became evil>Arha becomes Drazhar and created the Incubi aspect warriors that are the best of all aspect warriorsIt's kino
>>97906364The blissful timeline where Forge World won.
>LGS has the new Iron Warrior combat patrol for 153 USD instead if 170>would all be new models for me since I’ve got noneAh fuck I’m gonna start an Iron Warriors army…..
>>97906387better grab it tomorrow before some faggot grabs it so he can try to resell on ebay for 200 bucks.
Someone posted the other day that tyranids were a bad army for kitbashes and conversions and all I could think was "what the FUCK?" Nids are one of the best, if not the best army for kitbashing and conversions. Just about every pre-10th edition kit has limbs on balls and sockets so you can mix and match between kits of similar size easily. Those kits pretty much all have a ton of left over bits too which can easily be turned into almost anything you want. Cut off the pieces of a bunch of extra guns and glue them together, or glue them onto the side of a head or onto arm stumps or whatever you want. Turn them into vents or new heads or whatever. The bioengineered monstrosities concept means you can glue basically anything to anything and it'll "work" and it's much easier to green stuff the irregular organic shapes to hide joins and such than it is on regular armoured humanoids.
>>97906376Incubi prospects have to kill an aspect warrior to get inducted too.
>>97906376feels more like master asia.
>>97906397I appreciate the idea but I have a hard enough time telling which claws or penis guns are which. Tyranid designs are so similar that only an eagle-eyed 'nid player would even realize you changed something.It's like kitbashing Necrons who aren't destroyers, your hands are tied in a lot of ways.
>>97906378>Get multiple game systems all to themselves They kinda did win.
>>97906397>The bioengineered monstrosities concept means you can glue basically anything to anything and it'll "work" and it's much easier to green stuff the irregular organic shapes to hide joins and such than it is on regular armoured humanoidskek I don't remember correctly, but didn't the 4th/5th edition codex allow you to basically do this by attaching the arms you want for the traits you want or something?
>>97906423I'm just saying someone who was, at the time, a secondary who discovered Vraks first would expect traitor guard to be a major faction.Not that I would know anything about that...
If Ratlings are such good snipers, why does the Vindicare Temple never recruit them?
>>97906441They don't want all their shit stolen
>>97906441too racist
>>97906445They're too good at hiding so they dodge assassin temple recruitment
All of these Ultima color schemes are going to look really awkward once the older faceplates come back into fashion, aren't they?
>>97906457no?
>>97906421Well that's the goal of a kitbash or conversion. To have it look seamless like it was always that way.
>>97906461Yeah that will fit on an angry helmet fine.I thought I had a point there, oh well.
>>97906397Yeah I remember thinking the same exact thing, literally one of the most retarded posts ever. Old Tyranid codexes went out of their way to show you how kitbashable all this shit was, not to mention all the old White Dwarf articles when those kits came out with interviews from the creators were literally explicitly saying the nids had been designed with that in mind, like it wasn't already obvious.Some seriously dumb fuck anons in these threads some days man...
>>97906257I joined this discord like a week ago and before I could post my models it immediately descended into talking about the admin's various sexual disordersthere's just no escaping these fuckling weirdos man
>>97906298best you can hope for is a csm detatchment and some upgrade sprues for HWT / ogryns after they squatted most of the range and left the rest borderline unplayably bad
>>97906441Because Ratlings cannot become Assassins, the same way they cannot become Astartes or Custodes.For the record, Assassins are the most rare and most elite of all of those things btw. This makes Space Marine players seethe, not to even mention Custodesfags, but Assassins are even more elite and powerful one-to-one than Custodes.Remember there are roughly one million Space Marines, there are Ten Thousand Custodes, and there are only a few hundred Assassins per temple, and Assassins can only be unleashed by direct decree of the High Lords they are so valuable and powerful, whereas the other two groups pretty much operate autonomously.
>>97906513>discord>there's just no escaping these fuckling weirdos manYou went into the Eye of Terror and you're mad there's chaos daemons?
>>97906532NTA but it's just a chat hosting app, I don't understand why it has to be a given it's infested with disgusting freakazoids. How did this come about?
>>97906528There's fewer Assassins than the others because they're hyper-specialized, not because they're better.
>>97906540>branded for Gamers, with official brand channels>technically not on the clearweb, but persistent posts and no security to speak of (low skill barrier)>built-in image hosting (gooners)>pseudononymous by design with channel compartmentalizationIt's basically perfect for festering cabals of weirdos.
>>97906540discords from the internet are always shit, 4chan, reddit, it doesn't matter
Does anyone know of any contrast/speedpaint style paints with a colour similar to woad blue?
>>97906540kek, I should take a peek inside
>>97906474even the newer chapters with different colored faceplates would translate fine to beakies/screamer helmets, we've seen people ITT with homebrew chapters like that do classic helmets in those schemes and they looked fine
>>97906563What type of helmet would be reasonably lore-accurate for an Ultima chapter?>MKX>Corvus>MKVII incoming apparently>specialized roles like chaplain obviouslyAny others? I'm asking because I wonder how far one could take the "Cawl is trolling with loyalist traitors" thing.
>>97906569relic mk2/3/4 granted by their parent chapters
>>97906063>TQGrey Knights, Deathwatch, Sisters, Knights, and Custodes should all be rolled into the Agents codex.
>>97906554>It's basically perfect for festering cabals of weirdos.pot, meet kettle.
>>97906581DW should be rolled into Space Marines, there's some incompatibilities but it makes more sense to soup DW with an SM chapter than Custards.>>97906587>we're not so different, you an IIf anything, discord gooners should be ashamed that you managed to even disgust the other internet freaks.
>>97906596I say DW into Agents because they, like Sisters and GK, are an arm of the Inquisition.
>>97906596>discord gooners should be ashamed
>>97906513you don't even have access to the server without posting models you sad little larper
>>97906580That would be more of a one-off thing though. Unless...>laughs in Consecrators
>>97906540It's not the app that's the problem, but people who want to pull traffic away from here to the discord.It's not new either, this used to be a problem with people trying to drag everyone off of BBS's and onto IRC, and then the forum activity declining.
>>97906616I got access because the owner thought my profile pic was cute (her words).
>>97906557No, but you can make your own with contrast medium.
>>97906636helluva security protocol they got over there
>>97906636(you) tried
What is the most and least tryhard armies
>>97906649gameplay, lore, or general player mentality?
>>97906645Guh wrong version
>>97906626This place has been bleeding out for years because of a set of dedicated shitposters and a rotating cast of lolcows Not to mention the constant weeks-long raids we get for EVERY single reveal that the jannies never do anything aboutThe discord was created because modelposters got sick of dealing with this faggotry just to discuss the game and post their models
>>97906660This place is a actually a beacon of freedom and knowledge, stop being so fucking negative all the time.
>>97906670You only keep up this cope because you can't go anywhere else lolcow
>>97906674because everywhere else is infested with npc like behavior
>>97906636>her>>97906660>got sick of dealing with this faggotry>created a discordtopkekwaitwaitwait by "modelposters" do you mean decalfag?
>>97906100No.
>>97906683you're genuinely braindead if you think I was saying the discord was made for the decalfag to get away from here
>>97906653General player mentality
>>97906142play 4th edition.
>>97906257Yeah, no thanks.I'm not gonna tie my discord account to that or this place.
>>97906596>discord gooners should be ashamed that you managed to even disgust the other internet freaksNah that's just you Americans being touchy about sex
>>97906376>Incubi aspect warriors that are the best of all aspect warriorsNot really.
What are human psykers doing when they're born into the Tau Empire? What do the Tau do with them?
>>97906649I feel like Eldar and Dark Eldar are tryhard by design. Like, if you don't try hard, your army dies to a stiff breeze and you lose.
>>97906596Anon, 4chan is a host to /d/ and /b/. This place is literally in no place to talk.Only difference is that this place requires no account to use and is anonymous.
>>97906720while its been forever since they saw the table, I generally didnt like playing my dark eldar much because most of the games were either win big or lose big.
>>97906718They're kind of at the whims of chaos I guess. They have no way to recognize, detect, or stop psykers. Most of whom, without training, just become possessed.
>>97906718They do psyker things.Most likely get taught to control and use their powers from a young age.Also they are probably less likely to become daemon portals because Tau society is less stressful than living in some awful shithole underhive of the Imperium where some ganger might just torture, rape and eat you. And not always in that particular order either. And if you ever get discovered, you might get thrown into 1 of the blackships, which is basically just imperial underhive but in space.
>>97906718We might know if James actually cared about the tau empire to flesh it out properly, but from what we do know they just exist. There is in official writing at least one inquisitor in the gue'vesa ranks, and of course the nicassar are all psykers too.
>>97906636>lying on an anonymous imageboard you have to post timestamped models to get in at all nigger
Are Harlequins their own army or not? I read conflicting things, and they're not listed here.
>>97906766No, they were for a short while
>>97906766They're part of the CWE codex. They were their own army in 8th.
>Genestealer equipment is just random shit they cobbled together>It's as good as everyone else's advanced technology???
>>97906100I'm planning on getting a Saturnite dreadnaught to kitbash it with so yes
What's more rare to see besides Imperial Agents?>Imperial Guard>Adeptus Sororitas>Adeptus Mechanicus
>Local GW apparently has girls play Adeptus Sororitas as their armyReal girls or trannies? Though I have encountered a girl who painted the Space Marine scout kill team bright blue, pink, and purple while also giving them bunny ears and fur around their necks.
>>97906105That is a cool paint effect though
>>97906778>>It's as good as everyone else's advanced technology>advancedWell, we're not talking about the Imperium, whom they prey upon the most.
>>97906649orks, necrons, and tyranids are least. them being so weird and non-human results in them filtering out most people who would attach their ego to their dudes. custodes, and grey knights are most because they’re super powered humans, so it attracts people who indulge in power fantasies.
Can someone help me find this image? I remember back in either 2020 or 2021, maybe 2022, there was some big ass tournament and an Adeptus Mechanicus player ended up winning the entire thing. They drew chibi versions of the meta armies with a Tech Priest celebrating, Custodes crying, Eldar sad, and I forgot who the fourth one was.
>>97906778Most GSC shit is just stolen imperium shit, since most GSC specifically infest imperial worlds.I don't think many people realize that. Or actually think about it.Also the shit GSC use being just as good as other factions weapons is mainly and mostly a gameplay abstraction. It's just for balance reasons.
>>97906815Speaking of Adeptus Mechanicus, are they hard to paint? I can't tell because the video I watched of a person painting them made it look like it was as easy as painting a Space Marine and an Eldar.
>>979061511960s comic villain/10
Any good 40k themed sissy hypno?
>>97906827
>>97906831Stop ban evading
>>97906787>thinking guard could ever be rarer than the adeptus mechanicus you got to stop listening to anons who have an irrational hatred for all things imperial guard. they’re no space marines, but that doesn’t mean its an unpopular faction.
>>97906837I suggest you keep it in line
>>97906778dude, a Cawdor lasgun will kill you all the same as a Van Saar one
>>97906827Ask the new discord.
Anyone playing a game this weekend?
I know the Imperial Guard is larger than the rest of the Imperium's forces combined, but really, how large (as in how many soldiers do they have) are:>Sisters of Battle>Adeptus Mechanicus>All Space Marine chapters>Imperial Navycompared to each other?
You are getting a defiler tomorrow right?Right?
>>97906867What's with all the fucking L Shapes on the board
>>97906879Are the K shapes in the room with us now tardkun?
>9790686703 Nov 2025
>Local GW has this as a playmat for one of their tables under the table with a bunch of other terrain piecesKEK
>>97906885I....am a MAN
>>97906885based GW
>>97906885unironically explain to me why this wouldn’t be a kino battlefield if it were 3D
>>97906877I’m still trying to figure out how I would kitbash one
>>97906891Onager dunecrawler legs and knight body
What is the hardest army to play, with the most complicated rules?
>>97906882That's a C shape not a K shape.
>>97906895Tyranids
>>97906867
>>97906905I haet6 him
Adeptus Mechanicus armies are meant to be actuall advanced technologically, and superior to regular Imperial armies, right? Because they don’t really seem that way.
>>97906870>probably like a couple million >A few hundred forge worlds and probably like a few billion skitarii per planet >About a million, 1000 space marine chapters of 1000~ Marines each give or take loses and chapters that aren't codex compliant (SW, BT)>Fuckton, consider that frigates in the imperial navy have 25k~ crew, while the Dark Angel's Gloriana Class has a crew of a million.
>Rogue Trader thread on /v/ devolved into Pathfinder and cuckingThe fuck is this shit?
>Watch paintinng tutorial for some ideas and tips for models>He pulls out a fucking air brush
>>97906922Owlcat waifufagging attracts some insane fucktards.
>>97906867>>97906879I've seen this pic too many damn times and only just now looked at the absolute state of that terrain.>bulkhead jutting out from small building on right>not blocking access to anything, no evident purpose just... there>palms sprouting out of tiles/bricks>no reason for them to be there either, too skinny to block LOS or anything
>>97906922Waifus are great, but Crpgs, let alone fuckin owl cat, are not good for writing romances. Closest I’ve come to decent romances in a “western” game is from corruption of champions where you can impregnate a mouse to repopulate her dying race or portals of phenron with the wandering bum who starts of being your friend. The latter I’m pretty sure is made by a Spaniard. Anyways, war-hammer 40k. I’d say I’m surprised there aren’t quality romance stories for warhammer outside of ao3 but gw is hard on fan content.
>>97906937wow you're such a wonderful perfectionist, can we see your models/terrain anon? :)
>>97906660>sick of dealing with this faggotry just to discuss the game and post their models>immediately troon out in your newly creaed discord, do weird ass voice memos @everyone, blogpost about how you're a hermaphrodite and how chuds are just so obsessed ohmygawd
>>97906937I can understand the trees just being a style choice, and not caring whether or not it necessarily looks right, but the bulkhead jutting out is insane. way too small of a detail for him to be trolling, and there’s no way he accidentally put it there because it wouldn’t be in the instructions, so he’s got to be a genuine retard who just smashed shit together with no thought as to why something is the way it is.
>>97906959>t.nomodels/nogames
>>97906944>Closest I’ve come to decent romances in a “western” game is from corruption of champions>furry fetish gamelol
Why can no one write Eldar well
>>97906962Who are you quoting?
>>97906969
>>97906965TRANSFORMATION fetish furry game tyvm. Frankly it’s lighter on the furry shit than you would think.
Anyone got the Chaos Marines 10th Edition Codex?
Badab War question:Can I field a regular Space Marine army led by Huron and put an allied force using the Tyrant's Legion list building rules?It's kinda silly that the latter has such a restricted unit selection available(not even Predators, really?)
>>97906100I wouldn't be sad to see Grey Knights squatted entirely. Let them keep a couple units as Imperial Agents but having them as a full faction is daft.
>>97906988RETVRN
>>97906974V3... soon?
Hellblaster status?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97907017Can you feel it in your bones?
>upgrade kit comes with only 9 shoulders
>>97906980Yes but I won't share
>>97906905Did you get to meet J? I like this videos.
>>97906944corruption of champions was the first thing that made my pp hard as a kid I had never masturbated before a friend sent it to me as a "joke"
The Emperor is horny. What can satisfy him?
>>97906905Embarrassing that 40k has devolved to this mess
>>97906905that balding fat fuck has played more games in 2026 than all of this board has in the last 12 months
>>97907058Erda
>>97907046He got it from reddit
>>97907075>He
How's everyones collage entires going?
>>97907084
>>97907088>4chan filenamecome on man, larp properly
I'd noticed a few days ago that A Thousand Sons had received a second audiobook narration. So I decided to do a bit of a test, by mixing both. (skip to min.3 to see the effect)>Narration by Gareth Armstrong, and dialogue by Martin Ellis:https://vocaroo.com/128wfj3peErD
What if The Old Ones made the Tyranids to purge the universe of the one galaxy where Chaos is most powerful?
>the Defiler model was apparently the first Demon Engine that Abbadon commissioned for the Black CrusadesThat’d explain why they waited so long to refresh it.
>>97906180>Adolf enthusiasts, sonThat's orks, anon
Imperial Fists primaris intercessors
TQ, knights, chaos knights and agents. Not as models, but as independent armies. Make ally rules that make them interesting to include as part of a force, but fielding just walkers or just inquisitors as an "army" is to the detriment of the game as a whole. Without knights you could have infantry-focused terrain rules that actually make sense without having to shoehorn in a patch for the one army that's all vehicles.Agents are just a mess, a complete rewrite of their rules could salvage them, but squatting the faction to make better soup rules is probably better, because it's cool to let different imperial armies bring assassins and specialist squads and shit.
>>97906877I preordered one and a mutilator box, though I probably wont pick them up until the end of next weekLooking forward to them actually, tried painting some of my ork stuff today but am a bit burned out on them
Any Wardens of Ultramar players?Is it worth leaving them as their own unit or should i just attach them to sternguard?
>>97906457Perhaps, perhaps not
SQUAWK!!!!!!!!!!
>>97907319>"We have reports that Kroot Auxilia have devoured the bodies of some of our Fire Warrior.">that one Kroot that has suddenly grown big blue mommy milkers
Any idea how can I rip the raw text from Wahapedia easier and qucker than copying it manually, pasting it to Notepad to clean all formating and then copy-paste it to MS Word? I'm working on a 9th edition complete rulebook with all the Wahapedia contents and codexes but I feel like there must be a more efficient way of doing this.
>guard and orks get cool character models with thematic multi-modal rules that either fill or create clear new niches in the army>sisters get a half-hearted mess with nonsensical weapons, 'throw battleshock on there' rules who can't even lead the unit warcom promisedI'm tired, boss.
>>97907369I don't want new special characters at all.
If James really wanted more girls to play the game, they would not just randomly add women in armies but instead make a complete army catering to the global women taste. An army not exclusive but made with women first in mind. New armies need to be made with this in place instead of trying to get players who already have their own armies...I don't know what they would do for that though, what does women generally likes which would fit the world?
JAMES BRING BACK WARLORD TRAITS AND RELICS
>>97907381i dunno anon, have you tried talking to a woman?
>>97907381This is pretty much a pointless endeavour. There's like an entire cohort of fandom women horned up for Dark Eldar after the release of Marazhai in Rogue Trader, but GW is totally incapable of meaningfully interacting with this fanbase.They're removing the slaves and sexiness from Vect's new model. This fanart of Vect was drawn by a woman by and almost entirely shared by women. GW either does not know what women want or is too frightened to give them it.
>>97907381No need, Tyranids already exist.
>>97907392I don't know any who would be interested in the gameAll I know is that women prefer cute things, vampires or beautiful things. all don't really fit the universe (real vampires not the blood angels)
>>97907404Blood Angels are gay for hogging the vampire aesthetic.
Plus you need to distinguish between "I like the setting/lore/aesthetic" which is extremely woman-accessible, and "I like playing a very autistic wargame" which is one of the most male-coded activities ever. Which is not to say that no women want to do it!
>>97907357Click the "i" and go to data export to find where to download as csv, if it's still up.
>>97907381girls in general just aren't into wargamesmaybe they could push the miniature painting side of things to them more but thats about it
>>97907397>is too frightened to give them it.It's this.Giving women what they want is ironically not socially acceptable in any format other than novels.
>>97907478SF&F selling better than ever!
>>97907492Case in point.The kind of hardcore debauchery women enjoy is only acceptable in novels, which is why they downplay (gatekeep) them so much when it comes to the pornography argument.
>>97907350eating tau is taboo and tau don't have big boobs, he clearly ate lots of xenonians
had a nightmare they made a standalone beastmen faction no, not the space wolves and it sold like crazy because they were bought in bulks by suspiciously wealthy peopleI would accept even the felinids instead of that
>>97907381This is the only right answer >>97907438Just accept toy soldiers is mostly for men and not for girls, maybe they can like some stuff like Tyranids, but that's it.
>>97907531what makes james so allergic to goats or rats in space?
>>97907531No one bought these fucking things
>>97907539you can only get birds.
>>97907531I'm gonna put these little 40k skaven guys I got off etsy on the bases on my chaos knights. Gotta workshop some rat-themed Chaos house allied with my Night Lords.
>>97907381they like bright colours, cutesy animals, gloomy boys and quirky gremlinsif you want to add more of this stuff in 40k, you have to add exodites, grots (but can't have a military theme), and add characters for night lords, raven guard and dark eldar for them to fanfic over
>>97907531furries don't like beastmen, somehow they manage to repel them almost completely, furries flock to skaven, imperial guard and admech
>>97907547Big if completed
>>97907540They're pointless rule-wise, they got the damned keyword and high toughness and uh...
>>97907553my autistic girlfriend plays tyranids and is into vore
>>97907539jes didn't have any good idea on how to make sci fi rats that felt distinct enough from their fantasy version to justify the parallel rangesimilar issue as squats, really, except squats had a precedent and so were picked up again eventually, skaven won't be unless gw truly hits rock bottom and considers deleting their fantasy stuff to focus exclusively on 40k, then they will undoubtedly start porting over the more popular concepts from fantasy, and skaven happen to be one of them
My experience with women (successfully) getting into wargaming is anecdotal by its very nature of course but even such a small sample was clearly showing a pattern.>Women are not interested in the list-building and meta-chasing at all. They are allergic to grinding through tables of traits, abilities, wargear etc. All four of them LOVE AoS Spearhead for that very reason. They were very positive about Combat Patrol at first but with Spearhead around they simply got bored with it.>Women have much shorter attention span than men and easily drop the hobby that gives them the feels-bad moments.I literally had to let all four of them win their first games, otherwise they would not try for the second time. That was my wife's advice and it worked wonders. Women would rather play four 30-minute games than a single 2-hours game because in case of a lose, they want to play again immediately in hope of scoring the win. It's a very childish behaviour of course but if you keep this in mind it's really easy to engineer a tailored environment that lets them farm enough feels-good points to not get frustrated.
>>97907607>Women either self-insert fully or pick an army that makes self-inserting almost impossible IF they care about the narrative aspect at allYou give a man a Barbie-doll, he will play with it as a female accountant or pulp-era female adventurer. You give a girl a He-man figure and she will put lipstick on it. When a man picks a Black Templar army he will often simply follow the lore and in-world conventions and don't change much about the core of the army. Woman playing Black Templars would turn them into panthera-riding amazons in Sailor Moon uniforms because she wants to be a panthera-riding Sailor Moon herself. Of course women instinctively feel something doesn't checks out here but they won't give it any deeper thought - feel-good moments are not present, therefore they lose any interest. That's why women often go for the narrative-less options like Tyranids, Sylvaneth (they don't care about self-inserting as a Treelord, they just like pretty trees), Nighthaunt, Lizardmen etc. My wife plays Ghosts and she has only one named character - Olynder herself - and gives no fuck about giving any other model in her army any background because she can't self-insert herself enough. That's why adding female Custodes or mixed-gender Guard squads won't help in getting their attention since for most women it's either all or nothing. SoB should do the trick then but many women find basic bitch human factions boring. If they are supposed to waste time and money on a fantastical hobby, they actually want to have a deeply-personalised fantastical experience. Ladies in my group play respectively: SoB and Sylvaneth, Dark Eldar and Nighthaunt, Tyranids and Vampire Counts (Vampire smut self-insert, I shit you not) and Dark Eldar and Seraphon. One of them considers starting a Night Lords army, I will let you guess which one.
>kitbashing A2 S10 AP-2 D3
>>97907607>>97907613Lego discovered all of this back in the 90s.Boys want to BE Batman, girls want Batman to be THEM.Boys will adapt to a game even if they do not understand the rules and lose, girls will stop playing the game entirely if they lose.
>>97907319genuinely coolest shit Ive seen on this board in awhile
>>97907319how did you sculpt those boobs with one hand?
>>97907540they're actually fun to use, they can deepstrike turn one. In an older edition with psychic they'd be really good
>>97907607>>Women are not interested in the list-building and meta-chasing at all. >They are allergic to grinding through tables of traits, abilities, wargear etc. All four of them LOVE AoS Spearhead for that very reason. They were very positive about Combat Patrol at first but with Spearhead around they simply got bored with it.I was watching 2 tweak femboy canadian shop owners talking about this on youtube and one of them brought up chuds and gatekeeping as reasons why women aren't interested in 40k and I was like, naw nigga its the game itself. Its so fucking autistic that its a repellent for normie women (not all women I know your aunt played through The Campaign for North African ).Its also why I've noticed when they do play 40k its one of the more fantastical races (they generally aren't interested in armour mark or leman russ variant autism).
>>97907319Awooga
>>97907567They're reasonably durable for a Damned unit and can deepstrike on turn one, which isn't nothing, but outside of that they're an okay melee unit in an army that's got absolutely no shortage of potent melee threats. In an army like guard they'd probably be taken but in CSM they're outclassed by even 5 chainsword legionaries. If they got battleline with the chaos cult detachment they'd probably be a more attractive choice.
Current WIP. Hoping to get the main body finished tomorrow so then I'll just have the head and weapons to finish off during the week.
Time to learn how to paint in sub assemblies I guess, this thing is easily 3x as complex as anything I've painted/assembled before.Also>10 fucking heads in the box>No Alpha Legion head:(
>>97907776the khornate helmet is a stealthy night lord head
>>97907798Just make your own NL head
>>97907776and what would an alpha legion defiler head look like?don't fucking say a hydra
>>97907776doesn't bottom right work as alpha legion if you cover the tzeentch symbol and don't use the hood?
>>97907810Not a horrible idea desu. Should be pretty easy.
>>97907810>10 helmets>could have been one for each legion plus one for a generic fleshy demon head>4 undivided ones instead
>>97907821defilers have never had fleshy daemon heads thoughbeit
>>97906151Get in the fucking Wraithknight or the farseer will have to do it again (Why is everyone saying thanks, doc?)
>>97907821These two should absolutely have been replaced with Nightlords and Alpha Legion heads.The one on the left is so similar to the Iron Warriors head that it's redundant and the one on the right is just... fugly. Who would use that?
>>97907821>4 undivided ones insteadWhich should fit all the undivided Legions, what's your problem?
>>97907776>Out since last week>Rules and points updates STILL not on the official appSquintillion dollar company
>>97907826they never had a sexy lickable tummy either, but here we are.
>>97907835Today was actually the official release date.But I wouldn't be surprised if the app people are off work until monday.
>>97907776>Have three blight haulers (I thought the maximum was 3)>Realise you can take them in units of 2>Could do blightmaxxing with 6I don't trust GW to not fuck me over in the next death guard codex if I get another three though.
>>97907834That they don't fit the other undivided legions, who have their own aesthetics instead.>>97907826They should now.
>>97907843Split the difference and get 1 so you have 2 full units.
>>97907843they use to be taken in squads of 3 (for a total of 9), thankfully I didn't fall for that meme and only own 3
>>97907843Blight Haulers are arguably one of the cheapest units for their price point that GW sells. It's like £15-20 for a decent vehicle.Why hasn't GW done a multi-part version of this kit to rinse DG players of their funds?
WTF CHAOS???WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT THE IMPERIUM!
>>97907776There actually is an alpha legion head, but you don't see it because le sneaky chapter.png.
gave my boy some yeezys
>>97907847What is the distinctive aesthetic of Alpha Legion in 40k? Don't show me 30k kits.Night Lords are not running around in Batman helmets all the time either. Black Legion is generic.Word Bearers are covered with a separate head despite having no need to just like BL.Iron Warriors have their dedicated head as well.
>>97907876sus post
>>97907882>What is the distinctive aesthetic of Alpha Legion in 40k?scale armor, hydra motifs, and yes, 30k stuff too, gw has greenlit those outside of 30k as well, like in space marine 2
>>97907888>30k stuff too>>>/tg/hhg>like in space marine 2Secondary vidya """sources""" have no power here.
>Melta (Melter) gun because it melts through big shit and vehicles >S8>Less powerful than an autocannonAre GW going to give it anti-vehicle or will it forever suffer from weapon role dysmorphia?
>>97907826The new kit should have been a dual kit for defiler and soulgrinder>without the armour plates -> grinder>fully covered in armor plates -> defiler
>>97907897it doesn't stop at videogames
>>97907908fuck this art is QUALITY
would you like if abhumans were made into their separate sub-faction to the guard like what GSC are to Tyranid?It would enables more variety in them + introduce other abhumans (almost all of them still are not available in the game, only in the lore)I doubt this will ever happen because I don't think many people would buy this. I feels like any potential new faction in the near future will prioritize easy sells to avoid any mistakes they have done. even if it's boring.
>>97907912Interesting concept but while there’s room here to explore, it’s probably more financially viable to just make abhuman Kill Teams and then backport them into 40k.
>>97907908What a hideous moba-tier art. Is it official?
>>97907912yeah I dont think they are popular enough to warrant it. guard players I'm surprised by how many of them dislike ogryns/ratlings
>>97907912No, because it is largely pointless. They should instead just add more abhuman models/units to guard.
>>97907910It is, and it's great.
>>97907923Oops, meant also to >>97907917
>>97907912the issue with future new armies is that most of the interesting ones would be very risky to do saleswise, but the most of the more boring ones also don't really need to exist.like what next, will they have firstborn as their own armies because it's safe to do?I hope James will at some point stop playing safe and make some actual new armies which changes things hard. As much people memed on the Blue Fish Boys, at least they really felt novel and a bit daring.
>>97907912Not as a new faction, no, but I wouldn't be opposed to a detachment of the imperial guard that expects you to specialise on the abhuman units>ratlings for long range anti-personnel>ogryns for close quarters anvil unit>squats (new) for long range anti-tank>beastmen (new) for close quarters hammer unit>longshank (new) for a living tankthrow in some kind of "abhuman regiment command squad" that's made of a beast handler/slaver and one-off fancy cameos like a nightsider radio specialist, a felinid banner bearer, and a pelager bodyguard, and there you have it, a perfectly self contained small force that you can choose to specialise in or slot into the normal guardeven though I don't particularly like imperial beastmen to be honest with you
>>97907765Shrimp
>>97907903>a dual kit for defiler and soulgrindertriple kit for defiler, soulgrinder and brass scorpion
>>97907835I got the update yesterday, check again
>>97907884
>>97907946the brass scorpion would require a very different bodyplan in order to be done wellI'd make it a separate dual kit for it and a second khornate engine
>>97907882>What is the distinctive aesthetic of Alpha Legion in 40k? Don't show me 30k kits.Official codex scheme for 40k is the one nobody uses
>>97907946brass scorpion would need to be fundamentally redesigned because the cables on its underbelly would be practically impossible to make in plastic without splitting it up into a million pieces
>>97907953>thoughsmiths
>>97907882>>97907897>show me what someone from the “alpha legion” is meant to look like>no, those official alpha legion miniatures don’t count>no, that official game set in 40k that uses those same designs doesn’t count either>only show me examples from a game system that has no official miniature range :) do you really believe when alpha legion gets refreshed, they won’t be taking heavy design cues from the 30K alpha legion? do you seriously believe that?
>>97907956NTA but didn't he say that because everybody paints their AL with the HH scheme and models?
>>97907956>do you really believe when alpha legion gets refreshed, they won’t be taking heavy design cues from the 30K alpha legion? do you seriously believe that?Stop projecting schizo, I never said any of those things. I only said that AL has no themed bits nor miniatures in 40k, therefore I see no reason to cram a scalie-fag head on defiler's sprues. Despite playing Word Bearers, I don't think there was a point in adding a separate head for them either.
>>97907956>only show me examples from a game system that has no official miniature range :) If you hadn't notice, this is the game this thread is dedicated for.
>>97907970You never asked for miniatures, you asked for proofs of them having an aesthetic in 40k, and they do, there's plenty of artwork giving them their own look, that's significantly more different from the standard black-legion-themed miniature than word bearers are to it.If you are genuinely going to argue that no faction should be catered with their own bits unless there were already miniatures with exclusive bits for them then you're essentially arguing that no faction ever should get added to the game or expanded upon.
>>97907988>If you are genuinely going to argue that no faction should be catered with their own bits unless there were already miniatures with exclusive bits for them then you're essentially arguing that no faction ever should get added to the game or expanded upon.That's correct. 90% of faction-exclusive kits are a waste of plastic and pointless bloat.
If AL had their own 40k unit it would have stealth and infiltrator and sniper rifles.
I just want some actual alien faction man.
>>97908002>actual alienTyranids are bot enough for you?
>>97907901We need AVs back.
>>97907999Yeah but AL would never cross over with 40k.
Does WD still do battle reports? Last one I saw was an AoS one like 5 years ago. Batreps are my favourite thing in old WDs.
>>97907866Not really a surprise considering Peter and the IW in general have never given a shit about the Black Legion or Abaddon. The only reason Peter was even humoring Abby was because he's annoying so he sends Honsou to do boring shit for him in his place.
>>97907998we weren't talking about faction exclusive kits as much as giving faction specific bits compatible with generic kits
>>97908002Wym? Theres severalDo you mean like grey aliens or something?
>>97908007Yeah there is a boarding actions batrep with Red Corsairs vs Eldar corsairs in the latest WD
>>97908009My opinion remains the same.
>>97907970>I only said that AL has no themed bits nor miniatures in 40kwhy not start now then with the defiler sprue? the alpha legion “distinctive aesthetic” definitely exists in 40K it just hasn’t been represented by any bits YET.
>>97908018Your opinion is objectively wrong and retarded.
>>97907999I don't like the idea of sniper rifles for a CSM unit. That red corsairs raiders datasheet would have been good as an AL unit (if you added stealth as well).
>>97906877I'm getting the ad mech stuff first, then a defiler down the line.
>>97906877I had an old venomcrawler from that i painted to kind of prep for painting a defiler, but now i dont want to get a defiler. Ill prob get a chaos knight and plaster it in skin, corpses and skulls.
>>97908115Fuck wrong pic. Heres it finished.
>>97907901Is it S8 after the 2x for being in half range?
Why do female players never play Sisters?
>>97908145women don't understand religion
>>97908145Mutilated children in every kit
>>97908165Relatable to the experiences of the average western woman then.
>>97908145Things that appeal to women in these games:>Being a sexy women>Gloomy homoerotic boys with long hair acting gay at each other without explicitly saying they’re gay>Cute animalsThings that women don’t care about at all:>Being a badass (including badass animals)>Look how cool this weapon is>The undeaaaaaad (except for sexy vampires and ghosts)Things that actively drive women away:>Being a nun>Weird disgusting things like Nurgle>Cybernetically-mutiliated children
>>97908210>>Weird disgusting thingsunless they loop around into being cutelike malformed dogs, goblins and nurglings
>>97908221Anecdotally, my Nurgle stuff for my Deathguard gets my wife's cute seal of approval but my Haemonculus Covens stuff for my Drukhari she actively hates looking at and finds repulsive.
>>97908210Also, fanaticism also is something women don’t like. The part of 40K that is “religion went wrong, everyone is now a brainwashed crazy person, and there is endless war” is only appealing to men.Being an army of sexy nuns in boob armor screaming about their hatred of deviance and love of religion is something that only men would like.
>>97906877I haven't even painted my old one.
>>97907540The problem is that James thinks that giving Damned units barely any support outside of their dedicated detachment is a fun and interesting mechanic
>>97906552>be better at killing (the thing you exist for)>BUT YOU'RE BAD AT PAINTING SO YOU SUCK
GW should make an assassins kill team (70 bucks with all the assassins) because it appeals to me plus I don't want to pay 30 bucks per model.
>>97908255>DG are round and kawaii and have little anime mascots>haemonculi stuff is ROIDED AS FUCK and has like 5 arms and scary sleek helmets with hunger eyes and scorpion stingersEasy to understand woman's appeal here. Probably also why women are attracted to 'dad bods' with beer guts sometimes even though fatsos are gross. Ye got that roundness, like a kitten or a baby.
>>97907587Hrud (small robed) and Hrud (big, time dilation) and then those Orb guys who are shards of their god seem to be an easy basis for an army if only GW didn't absolutely hate them.
>>97908296>because it appeals to me>I don't want to payYOU'LL GET NOTHING
>>97906557Maybe Beowulf blue from army painter
>>97907512>tau don't have big boobsWrong.
>>97908344Off model cooker artists please go
>>97908344Now show some official art/model of a tau with big boobs
>>97908326wow rude
>>97908344>um acktually my anime fan ar-ACK!
>>97908344Based
>>97908347>>97908348>>97908363>rent free
>>97907833It's a decent NL head
>make a black inquisitor>literally name him ya niggaWhat did James Workshop mean by this?
>>97908388It's such a shame we will never get a Unification Wars game.
>>97908429GW will ruin it somehow.As the HH has shown it is better when mythological events in 40k are kept barebones in what happened.With that said, Tortuga Bay's thunder warrior minis need to be scanned. One of the few aftermarket/third party models that deserve STL archiving for obvious reasons like their country where they're located.
What weaponry would be good on an imperial guard sentinel? I'm thinking an Autocannon, the chainsword, and then the missile
Almost done painting the yellow and black on my Ranger Wraithlord, but I'm still trying to decide on what color to make the cloak on it (And my other rangers by extension). I'm thinking brown currently, but I'm also seeing some decent examples in grey online. If I'm going with a foresty vibe for my bases (Lots of greens/browns with some greys) which should I go with?
>>97908429Many (are not) saying this.
Bit of a silly question lads.Has anybody tried sentinel multilasers fitted in the main gun part of a leman russ tank's turret?I was thinking of a multilaser version instead of an annihilator turret to be played as a laser version of the punisher cannon.
>>97908429>>97908454>>97908461The only way it wouldn't be ruined would be if you played as Terran Warlords that all predated the Emperor and the Unity. So just a glimpse of life on Terra after the DAOT ended
>>97908468>if you played as Terran Warlords that all predated the Emperor and the UnityThat actually is a very good idea.
There are still many people that hate Primaris Marines and would love to see Primaris unit being removed from the game.Is there any other faction with its playerbase actively vouching for the erase of a particular unit or group of units?
>>97908492>Is there any other faction with its playerbase actively vouching for the erase of a particular unit or group of units?VotannAll of them
>>97908492Thousand sons players sometimes want tzaangors gone
>>97907919>more abhumans>Idea:loyalist beastmen (disposable melee chaff) Might be a neat unit, though right now I think it could be easily represented by just taking the Catachan datasheet and using beastmen as a proxy since they get scout and have a melee buff when charging.
>>97908322>Hrud (bigno such thing
>>97908492chaos marinefags don't like chaos units imperialfags don't like abhumanstaufags don't like kroots
>>97908523Both hruds are hrud, hrudfag, even if it makes you seethe. Like the barghesifag who started crying when an Official infant Barghesi was released.
>>97908512>Beastmen>Always goat headed people>A few big guys are bullsfucking why, where are the lion headed abhumans, or eagle headed ones? Who are clearly walking symbols of the Imperium and whose excistence causes relegious schisms that leds to intense violence and wars because no one can decide if they're a heretical mocking of the emperor or sacred and blessed to being living symbols of the Imperium.
>>97907866Please be because pert was too autistic... please...
>>97908390That's the Iron Warriors head, not either of the ones I circled
>>97908548because warhammer fantasy beastmen are goats and bulls, so warhammer 40K and 3rd party creators have them presented as goats and bulls. simple as.
>>97908498Votann fans don't want votann?
>>97908572>Doesn't know about the recently canonised Tigermen of Ind
>>97908574votann players love the concept of space dwarves, but hate the concept of votann. they want their faction entirely removed and replaced with space dwarves that are entirely different from their current state.
>>97908145One-note army with not a lot of room for creativity>>97908255My gf loves Covens models (along with other surgical models like Fabius Bile [her favorite character] and the painboy)
>>97908548>fucking whyBack when GW(citadel) produced models for Runequest the goat head Broo were the most common kind of beastmen models they sold, eventually GW made Warhammer and included Beastmen in that to try to sell the models to more people. The goat head just became the default beastmen look for GW, even though they can look like other kinds of animals too, such as rhinos. Separately it's also because it looks like that one Baphomet depiction with the goat head.https://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=RuneQuest_(Citadel)#Box4v2
>>97908547>Both hruds are hrudAnd neither was ever big, you're the one getting angry your fanfiction isn't canon.
>>97908574No one wants Votann.
Is it worth reading the HH series?
>>97908619Do you like reading about marines? Then yes, making sure to skip certain books like battle for the abyss or random short story collections.If nothing else you should at least read scars.
>>97908604>they can look like other kinds of animals too, such as rhinos.I remember in a Gotrek and Felix book where a bray shaman is turning empire knights into beastmen, there were also deer, bear and elk headed beastmen which would be cool. Althought I wonder about being horned and rhino headed beastmen on a bipedal humanoid body, the weight of the horns and antlers would make their necks very immobile if not break them over time from the weight. Goats and bulls have smaller horns at least
>>97908619The entire series? Fuuuuuck no.There are literally 54 books and most of them are not particularly good.The first 4 books, Horus Rising->False Gods->Galaxy in Flames->Flight of the Eisenstein are good pulpy fun and fairly competently written, I would recommend those.If you read those 4 and are REALLY hankering for more, then you can consider looking into what others books in the series might interest you.
>>97908548Because goats are satanic.
>>97908512>VictoriaminiaturesI really hope she updates the beastmen to the new Cadian scale.So I can buy the digital file STLs and convert the human bomb to be a beastman like that one anon did a long time ago and satisfy my autism/OCDefect of being able to say I used only Victoriaminiature stuff like the brand loyal consumer pig I am.But for now I'll gather up digital bits to try and get it done.
>>97908619no
>>97908639You know what else is heavily satanic coded? Snakes. Where are the snakemen beastmen
>>97908646Sslyth are a Drukhari thing
>>97908646snakes are associated with all sorts of things everywhere, even today the serpent of the eden isn't the more popular snake around
>>97908663I mean they're xenos not beastmen/abhumans. But ill accept them and the Laer I guess
>>97908554Only if you're an autist with no imagination
>>97908670Maybe all beastmen that look like xenos got killed for looking like xenos?
>>97908548>fucking why, where are the lion headed abhumans, or eagle headed ones?Those probably do exist somewhere within the galaxy.It's more of the case that goat headed + bull headed beastmen just happen to be the generic/default look of Beastmen as a whole.It's like how Ultramarines are the "default" space marine that you see the most of. That's basically it.If you want to use some 3rd party figures of beastmen. Say like beastmen with ursine heads, or even eagle headed ones. No one is gonna care, I doubt people at GW stores would care either.
>>97908619You either read it whole in the release order or you behave like a secondary, looking up for a guide to the HH series, skipping some books, etc.
>>97907388I do believe the lack of warlord traits is what makes 10th edition so focused on named characters. Previously named characters were almost always forced to be warlords, so during list building you had an active choice between a generic HQ with one of your armie's/subfaction's warlord traits or a named character. Right now that choice doesn't exist so you always take the named character.
>>97907941Yeah, this would be a cool way to do it.Getting some new kits for imperial squats would be neat. Also would be really cool to see more obscure stuff like the Longshanks or Pelagers.It's not really viable/make sense for mainline 40k, but I'd like to see the "scalies" abhuman getting a model in Necromunda, since they are an abhuman native to Necromunda, at least implied that way. I like to imagine they look like pic related.
>>97908640But the scale is pretty much the same.
>>97908744>scaleI think I should have said proportions instead. I'm not sure if there is a better word to describe the difference.
>>97908752Ahh, gotcha. Though I'm not sure it's even needed considering the goatman doesn't have normal human proportions in the first place.
>>97908622>Althought I wonder about being horned and rhino headed beastmen on a bipedal humanoid body, the weight of the horns and antlers would make their necks very immobile if not break them over time from the weight. Not sure about how Fantasy handled it but AoS specified that "bullgors" (minotaurs) also included other large animal-men such as rhinos and sharks
So why does Tau of all factions seem to be the biggest fetish bait race in the setting? Is it just because anime weebs have such a big overlap with gooners?
>>97908755I'm just hoping digital STL releases of Vic's goatmen are done and available one day hopefully soon. The reason is autism. And to have some Warhammer 40k goatmen abhuman chaos guard. Best ones I can think of (but aren't in STL form) are the WGA Damned beastmen models. They're in hard plastic.Victoriaminiatures did some pretty good scans of previous works like her Spanish Inquisition models. It is a reference to the Spanish Inquisition Monty Python skit that became a meme. For those who don't remember that old meme. I want to listen to a "this is sparta" remix now.
>>97908736Is that terminator piloting a boarding torpedo like a WW1 fighter with an open cockpit?
>>97908771it's because they are blue space babes with small or nonexistent noses
>>97906063>What needs to be squatted?All of the cult legions merged back into the main CSM armySistersCustodesGSC and nids merged into one codexVotanKnights
>>97908458I can be much help as I'm getting back in and 11th is right around the corner. Weapon load out in a tricky question that has many factors.>what is your force tactics and strategies goals?>what role is the sentinel doing?>is your force a all comers tournament build or tailored to a opponent?>what is your local meta you need to build against?>what is the usual practices of your opponent?These are questions you need to ask yourself.
>>97908780Someone pointed out in once in these threads that it's ALWAYS the blue/green alien that ends up as waifus in every setting and it's a funny pattern once you notice it.
>>97908458Depends if wargear costs points again (it should).
>>97908790it's pretty standard, the point of having a humanoid race in a different colour is to highlight exoticism, when applied to women that translates into eroticism pretty directly.
>>97908798They're replacing wargear cost with upgrade enhancement
>>97908803No. Like not comparable at all. Upgrade enhancement just means you can put the enhancement on the sargeant of 3 units. It has nothing to do with wargear costs.
>>97908813You lost.
>All the soys in my club complaing about the marine half of Armagedon when is a really comfy little starter army
>>97908781Why eliminate Sisters?
Oh yeah. So did I hear right that leaders have to be assigned to units during the list-building stage of your army in 11th and not just at the start of the battle? Is the same going to be true of dedicated transports where you have to state what goes in them at the army mustering step?
>>97908821Just not a fan of the models
>>97908820It has primaris and the death toll of tactical squads how is that comfy?
>>97908827Ready? They have one of the most distinct aesthetics in the game.
>>97908826At the moment dedicated transports don't exist as a concept in 11th.
Is warcom down for anyone else?
>>97908832What? ...but Codexes are carrying over and already have dedicated transports in them.
>>97908841But the new "FOC" to call it something doesn't mention dedicated transports at all.
>>97908829Idk, they just never clicked with me
>>97908843The depth of a petri dish lmao
>>97906063Are Plagueburst crawlers really that bad? I’m looking to expand my DG collection and I’m torn between PBC, Mortarion Or a pred
Three more to do
>>97908832>>97908841>>97908843I imagine they're going to do a whole article on transports in general and how dedicated transports work will be covered there.
>>97908851I am autistic and collected all the DG vehicles because they're rad as fuck and have no clue why anyone would want less than PERFECTION in their collection (I also have all the EC models)
>>97908828It reminds me of my old 7th and 8th army
>make a new thread? NO! Be autistic and use the previous oneBased based based
Where do Votann get navigators?
>>97908890they don't, they use their normal psykers and multiple smaller psychic beacons for relatively short voyages, instead of big jumps with a big lighthouse like the astronomican
So the chaos infighting starts now iron warriors and red corsairs are chipping at black legion
>>97908917wdym
>>97908829Nta, there are times I thought about maybe dipping into sisters but their vehicles are ass clown whitepowerfrogpuking.jpg revolting.
>>97908851As a DG player I believe that right now the Plagueburst Crawler is too many points to really consider. The model is cool, though and things may change in 11th to make them more viable. However I also hate the idea of Primarchs in the game. I don't own Mortarion and never plan on it. Predators have their roles and it can be a lot of fun to convert more standard CSM kits to fit the DG better so if that's something you enjoy it could be a fun project.
>>97908915Even regular psykers can see beacons? Can’t they see the Throne from the Warp as well? Why even use navigators at all if that’s an option?
>>97908940Perturabo declared open war against the black legion basically
???
>>97908985out of print.
Why is the nu Defiler so outrageously expensive? it's much closer to a Redemptor than a Knight in price, yet its priced like the latter.
>>97909026>Why is the nu Defiler so outrageously expensive?Money.
>>97908976navigators are better, more specialised
Who are the scumbag Primarchs that will dare to defy /ourguy/ Abaddon?
I am again torn between buying the new or the old vindicator. I like this one, but the big shield on the other one is so iconic.
I finally took the plunge into the airbrush meme.
>>97909093FW designed them both, so it's ok to like either one. Personally I prefer the Mars pattern one. It's has that brutal siege engine look to it.
>>97909093HH one is more pleasant to build and comes with more bits but the 40k one is simply iconic and doesn't look like a railway carriage from Thomas the Tank Engine.
>>97909026It's the exact same point cost as a Knight Destrier which was released at the same time but it's $35 cheaper.
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>>97909197But why
>>97908917That's assuming Fatrak is correct.He does have someone from GW feeding him some info, lots of other info he just makes up.
>>97909161That looks like the aos elf
>>97906877I got two :)
>>97909226Eldar are well known for their razor-sharp blades.
>>97906877I'm considering one, though I'm waiting on building the CSM stuff I already have first before buying anymore.
>>97909328>waiting on building the stuff I already have first before buying anymoreNGMI
>>97908851Do the crawler or mortarion. I'm eternally envious of the DG range for how quality it is. I don't like the aesthetic, but if you do, damn do you eat with that army.
>>97906877No nigga lmao
>>97906877Maybe it's the absence of dedicated color scheme but looking at this all I see is "CSM beasts"
>NOTE: We previously announced that the special edition of HIVE by Dan Abnett would be available to pre-order today. Unfortunately, this release has been delayed. We'll let you know when it will be available as soon as we can – so stay tuned to Warhammer Communityuh oh
>>97909359>dark mech schemeProbably picrel, yellow with copper rims
>>97907381My gf really likes planes, so probably viable fliers?
>>97909190it is significantly smaller than a Destrier.
>>97909412The destrier is big because it has long legs, most of the 'volume' of the model is blank space the defiler lacks
>>97909412the defiler wastes a lot of sprue space on multiple optional plates and even a second near identical waist that they had to include because they were too dumb for a spherical socket
>>97909412intent behind destrier seems to be to create a mid-sized knight between wardogs and abominant.
i modeled up a character for the collage ezpz a couple weeks ago, but still haven't come up with color choices.he's supposed to be like an Emperor's Champion type guy, but i can't bring myself to JUST paint him up as a regular Emperor's Champion
>>97909442it's actually just to fix the mistake fw made with the excessively tall cerastsus and to pave the way for the complete removal of fw knights from 40k knightsthe normal knight, the dominus and the destrier are virtually the same class of knights, just with slightly different specialisations, there's no spectrum from armigers to dominus, it's just two tiers: armigers and actual knights
>>97909450think of the kind of ritual your chapter might carry out for their championwhat culture does your chapter have? what history?
>>97909458Why would the cerastus be excessively tall being tall is it's main appeal.
>>97909450green and purple
what are you guys working on? gonna take a break from my collage project, but I am SO happy with how the skin turned out.
>>97909473Because it's meant to be an alternative version of the normal knight, but by being this tall it cannot pass as equal.
>>97909491forgot pic like a retard, whoops.
Do we have any in-lore descriptions of what happens when a ctan shard dies? I need to know if they leave behind a corpse or not
>>97909492MANLETSWHEN WILL THEY LEARN
>>97909471>ritualthat's a really good question, i'll have to give it some thought. they're IF successors that side eye BTs, so i'll have to look into them a bit more.gonna be honest, didn't think about characters when coming up with a color scheme for /mydudes/>>97909478 those are my orks
>>97909519I doubt they'd leave much behind, the necrodermis bodies they have are pretty much just the prison holding the actual shard.I think I remember reading that the shard being unleashed from the body destroys/unravels everything in it's vicinity before escaping.
>>97909519you cannot destroy a ctan, nor one of its shards, you can beat it into submission back into its tesseract cage or you can shard it apart further, but there's no way to kill itdemons rule apply, whatever your plot requires it can happen:do you want your dudes to fashion a battle standard from a strip of its living metal flesh left behind from its defeat? you can do thatdo you want there to be absolutely nothing left but a crater, with the ctan retreated into a pokebox or teleported back into a distant vault? you cando you want the reiterating ctan to leave behind an empty shell as a wound in the fabric of spacetime? sure, knock yourself out
>>97909498yeah, looking very orky, m8. working on the same project. spent yesterday greenstuffing onto a couple areas despite already getting base layers of pant on it.
>>97909533>they're IF successors that side eye BTsso I doubt their reasoning for having an emperor champion would be the same, or that they would follow the same doctrine of having a marine leave behind all its identity and armor honours to embody that role you could turn that on its way completely, instead of making it a honour you make it a punishment, maybe your chapter's champions are the ones they elect to send to the feast of blades, and if they return defeated but alive they have to be on penance, stripped of their identity, doused in blood ahead of a battle and sent to fight until they improve themselves enough to win the next feast of blades or die trying
best 40k author?worst 40K author?
>>97909492Or hear me out.Cerastus pattern knights are taller because they are meant to be a different pattern of knight.
>>97909570Best? Probably Dan.Worst? Probably Jude reidUnderrated? Chris Wraight
>>97909570>bestDan Abnett>worstDan AbnettKnowers know.
>>97909573but they are not a different tier of knighthood fw fucked up with all of its knights, all of them are too big
Dark mech is probably the next faction but I don't get why so many want it. Is mech even that popular in the actual game?What the hell will even differentiate dark mech outside of being "mech but even harder to paint and with some general chaos unit"there's a lot more factions that deserves an army than them in term of originality and variation in how they play
>>97909492It's very obviously not meant to be a questoris what the fuck gave you that idea?
>>97909561>you could turn that on its way completely, instead of making it a honour you make it a punishment,volunteering for punishment is very IF, right? i'll come up with something elective, and see where that goes. the answer the chaplains still has to give is "armor up and let loose, brother" thanks for the help.
>>97909592But they are a different type of knight. They don't need to be a different tier to be different. What? Is a Vos pattern lasgun now a different fucking tier when compared to a Galaxy pattern lasgun now since they are different designs and slightly different in size?No, they are just different pattern of lasguns.It's not deeper than that.
>>97909592What do you even mean by tier? Knights have had different patterns with very different shapes and sizes from their inception.
>>97909626>imperium but more spikySlop
>>97909570>Mike Brooks - The mixed-race, transgender custode unleashed Xyr bolter into the horde of Necrons, smashing the enemy with a stunning and brave display of their truth.>Dan Abnett - The olive-skinned woman in the tight black bodyglove used her mary sue powers to kill another 300 chaos space marines.>Arron Demski Bowden - "You are the real monsters, loyalist scum," screamed Zorracar the Baby Eater and Puppy Molester, 1st Talon of the Edgelord Claw of The Night Lord pirate warband.
>>97909631I'm not saying it has to be a questoris, I'm saying it presents itself as an equivalent alternative but was made too big, so it doesn't pass as one.Cerastus aren't meant to be more important or more powerful or higher ranking, but making them this much bigger undermines that.
>>97909636>slightly different in size?this is not a slight difference >>97909492the one between the questoris and the destrier is a slight difference
>>97909646nta you are replying to I just want to add I agree. I always thought Cerastus were supposed to be on of the those 700 point fancy ones. Finding out its just another flavor of big knight was shocking considering its silhouette and profile.
>>97909638At their inception knights had nothing close to this extent of size differences and all the patterns were equivalent to one another, the highest ranking and powerful knight could be of any of the patterns.Meanwhile now fw made titan sized knights, it breaks households structure.
>>97906967Eldar completely fail at capturing the feel of Tolkienesque elves. They are supposed to be the lingering remnants of a bygone age of heroes and legends; beings quite literally closer to God and the early days of creation. A good elf story is one where, though they may be diminished, a glimmer of that bygone age is relived through them in the form of might or wisdom. 40k Eldar can't do this because: A) We don't know enough about the Eldar of old, we're mostly just told they were big stronk and that's it.B) 40k authors never seem to let the Eldar have a genuine win outside of a few small blurbs in their own codex. On the contrary, they are the punching bags of the setting.
>>97909655>I always thought Cerastus were supposed to be on of the those 700 point fancy onesWhy? It's not a prophiyrion. It's taller than the questoris but a lot thinner and fragile looking. It exchanges structure for agility and speed. It's not a direct upgrade but a tradeoff. Works perfectly fine.
>>97909667>but a lot thinner and fragile looking.No, it isn't, it's just bigger.
>>97909671It's half the width of the questoris anon.
>>97909667It just LOOKS fancier man, idk what to tell you. I can't retroactively have perfect knowledge of the entire knight range when I was first learning about knights to have a different first impression.You do realize people can have different knowledge from you, right?
>>97909675No, it isn't, actually look at it >>97909492
>>97909676Looks fancier because FW paints better than GW.
>>97909644You forgot ADB's obligatory waifu that he seems to put into every book (he doesn't know marine players only like big muscle men). E.g.; Octavia, Nefertari, Gyre, Cyrene, Lotara.
>>97909665I never read the Eld books but they must win at least a few times there, even if small winsThey can't be always fucking losers even in their own stories right?
>>97909626Big models more cash
>>97909698Okay but we stan Lotara
>>97909715fuck off
>>97909626Everyone already loves the maximalist augmentations of tech priests, so kicking it up to the next level with ultra-chaos corrupted body horror and xenos tech would obviously appeal to a ton of people and create a very visually striking line of models
>>97909723>admech but spiky>admech but hemunculus covensthere's nothing interesting that darkmech would offer
>>97909570I'm going with Dan. Grant you other than reading the first few HH books the only BL books that I had any interest in reading ended up being Dan books.
>>97909705Let's look at the Eldar books of note: 1) The Path of the Eldar series, where a single successor chapter and some guardsmen somehow invade a major Craftworld and only leave after the protagonist of the third book character BEGS the marine chapter master to go home. 2) Valedor, where two major Craftworlds have to rally alongside Dark Eldar to beat the Nids on a single planet, scoring a victory only after a bunch of Farseers blow themselves up with a McGuffin bomb (the Darkies thought it was hilarious). This is the best Eldar novel.3) The Ynnari novels, so good GW decided to pull the plug on them before trilogy even wrapped up4) Phoenix Lord series, I couldn't get past the first half of the Jain Zar book. Ask somebody else if the Eldar actually do anything cool. Since it' s Gav Thorpe writing, I doubt itBut hey, that's just shitty Black Library stuff. Let's look at campaign books! Like Pheonix Rising, where Jain Zar, Lelith, The Ynnead, The Visarch, Yvraine, and a Solitaire lost to a astral projection of Shalaxi Hellbane or some shit. This of course results in the Ynnari failing to achieve their goals.
>>97909626Is weird to me. I suppose they wanna give a chance to actual techno horror and creepy robo-demons but I doubt GW will be able to deliver...That said, i would prefer a new Xeno faction and we have lot of options in that regard.
>>97909780Hrud’s the dream
>>97909780>>97909798as long Xens keep underselling/selling like crap compared to Imp/chaos, it won't happen, I'm not expecting a new Xen army until 2035 at least
>>979097732018 were bad for blslopper in general, i still waiting my iron hands trilogy book 3
>>97909826According to this >>97906766, Necrons, Nids, Orks, and CWE are more popular than shit like Space Wolves, Black Templars, Knights, AdMech, Sisters...
Making headway on my Crucible Character.
>>97909626All the vehicles in regular admech look dumb except for the dune crawlerReplace them with daemon engines
>>97909826exodites within 5 years slanni within 8
>>97909705Dark Eldar get lots of little wins.Harlequins get some wins occasionally and some losses.Craftworlds get fucked everywhere except Valedor where they only mostly get fucked and have a pyrrhic victory.
>>97909850This list is for competitive players and people who go on that website; it's likely missing a lot of casual players or just players who do not use this (a lot)
>>97909871Do you have some other data to indicate that list is wildly inaccurate?
Can the wave serpent in the Aeldari Corsairs combat patrol be built as a falcon? Or no?
>>97909871necrons, nids and orks are starter factions, they would have far more casual players and players with no idea of the tournament scene than many other factions
>>97909826>people won't buy an army until they're updated>we won't update an army until they sell
>>97909871surveys with only 1000 people is considered an acceptable sample size, and this is in the 6 digits. I think that makes it pretty reliable to gauge army popularity.
>>97909626Flesh + machine + evil shit is just a winning combination. Regular admech is too sanitized. I mean, look at this crap. They're just a bunch of dudes in red cloaks. Give me something truly inhuman.
>>97909850how the hell are some of the most popular faction in the community so low in the actual game? was it always this or was it different before?>>97909889This is much more common than you think
>>97909826I would buy Rebel Grots or Exodites or Rak'Gol or fucking Zoats over marine color variation #172575 thanks
>>97909893You dont enjoy Da Vinci aesthetic, anon? if they do this shit with DM i riot
>>97906766>Genestealers that lowIs for the lore of the faction?
>>97909850Space marines and Chaos space marines are split between like 10 different armies. Yeah, yeah, they're different in gameplay, but come on man.I say this as a xenos enjoyer.
>>97906766>Tzeentch is the LEAST popular cult army of Chaos by A LONG margin...Bird bros... What we do?
>>97909934I hate these stupid fucking robots so much.
>>97909934i will say it again: what were they thinking?
>>97909934True esoteric knowledge has always been for the few, not the many. Let the tards get filtered.
>>97909934The army should get rid of screamers of tzeentch for more birds.
>>97909773Gav Thorpe literally wrote a white dwarf article about how it was his main intention to make Eldar seem "arrogant" by losing all the time. It's grimdark, you understand, to have a faction that does nothing but die and never does anything cool EVER. They quite literally got the guy who is one of those "I FUCKING HATE KNIFE EARS" larpers to butcher one of their most important factions. I'm pretty sure that in internal documents its now considered a core pillar of Eldar storytelling. The eldar story bible for new GW authors:1. Eldar must always take casualties.2. Eldar have the gift of foresight, but it must always be ironically punished and never actually useful (our customers are too retarded to question why a race would continue to use foresight if its this awful)3. Eldar can never truly win, that would imply hope for the future. Instead, humiliate them at ever turn. 4. Eldar can NEVER be better than a space marine at anything.You even see this in Prince Yriels fluff from the new 500 worlds campaign book, where the Eldar were barely holding their own against the human conscripts of his super station but when the marines came back they wholesale slaughtered the Eldar with "only Yriel holding his own against transhuman fury". An Eldar subfaction main character is literally below the level of a nameless random marine. This is just garbage writing, and undermines the core conceit of 40k which is every faction is cool and awesome. It makes no sense from a meta, narrative or business sense, but GW is just a fail upwards type of company so nothing will change.
>>97909934Is pretty amazing how James managed to make Tzeentch shit in both AoS and 40k lol, here with stupid beastmen with pistol attached to them there with retarded naked and buffed cultists and only birds... Meanwhile Khorne and Nurgle get the good stuff, very cool.
>>97909964internal GW favoritism has always been a thing.
>>97909908space marines are splintered into a dozen different minor variants while xenos are unified. the ork player who likes mad max vehicles and mechs, and the ork player who likes footslogging barbarians are part of the “ork” playerbase while the guy who likes space marines in knights templar armor is split off from the guy who likes knights of the round table armor.
>>97909922no one likes losers, anon-kun.
>>97909964>naked and buffed cultistsThat’s based though.
>>97909964> Meanwhile Khorne and Nurgle get the good stuffand Slaanesh too!
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>>97909881>Please note that the Falcon Grav Tank cannot be used in an Aeldari Corsairs Combat Patrol roster, therefore, this build variant is not included in the kit. Apparently they advertised it as such during preorders and in the instruction manual, then rugpulled. Lol.
>>97909934At least they're relatively cheap models and their datasheet is fun.
>>97909856Nice! Did you kitbash out of the pulse laser off a falcon?
>>97909893Those faces look like a nightmare to paint.
