Former GW CEO Tom Kirby may have bragged that they do no market research but they are an extremely data-driven company that pays a great deal of attention to which products are selling and which ones aren't. To that end, they treat 40k and Horus Heresy as two discrete brands with discrete product lines, and while customers might buy one to proxy for another, those sales are tabulated strictly for their respective product line.So what do you suppose is going to happen when people keep on buying 40k Custodian Guards instead of the new HH Sodalities? Do you think Games Workshop is going to look at that sales data and conclude, "wow, making a gender equitable kit of barely human homunculoid super soldiers was a real value add to our bottom line - we should do it for all our products!""Or do you think they're going to conclude that, just like when Alan Merritt was forced to pull the female knights and wizards from Citadel's production roster in the 80s, their customers don't want them and it's not worth doing just to prove their progressive bona fides?Because I think that the decision's already made. GW wasn't even committed enough to this particular bit to put females in all the new Custodes kits. Venatarii don't have a single boobplate among them.People are going to keep on using the 40k minis because the only ones that want ten-foot-tall muscle mommies are the terminally coom-brained and ideological subversives who are only here to ruin another brand before moving on to the next.You might see this as a victory for the progs because they finally got their way and femstodes finally have miniatures. Hell, you might be a gay race communist and think this is a big W over the chuds, but the fact is that this is at best pyrrhic victory. Trannies and their enablers have gotten what they want and now the whole world will see that nobody else does.Screenshot this post, there will be no new female Custodes going forward. See you in 2027.
You lost the 40 warhammer threads in the catalog?
>>97914440Imagine giving this much of a fuck about custodes. I'd understand this type of spergout if they did this to space marines or added men to sororitas, but over custodes?>inb4 "but the sisters of silence were supposed to be the girls and the custodes were supposed to be the boys because uuhhhhh that's what my headcanon says"
>>97914440Your post will age badly because that’s just how it is.I want to be wrong.Anyways I’m doing my part in not buying custodes of any kind.I think gw did the femstodes to throw a bone to “that performative crowd.” Used to be that sororitas were the explanation but now custodes had to be on the sacrificial alter for them.Best thing to do is not buy them.What many don’t want to accept is that male is about as integral to the 40k space marine as being a black African is integral to The Black Panther superhero.It is what it is and changing that would be a mistake.Anyways OP.There will be pol chuddies that will come into threads like this and pretend to be bad left leaners. Threads like this are blood in the ocean and they’re sharks at smelling that stuff.
>>97914620I have long since stopped giving much of a fuck about W40K but I know how heavy the lore was (is) in that game so it is perfectly understandable that people would get pissed about retards being in charge of the lore.>"But it doesn't matter."Well clearly it does..
>>97914620If it matters enough to change, it matters.
>>97914440Cool cool. Care to post your minis?
I look forward to Custodes going the way of Dark Eldar in the future because once you make the first female Custodes there will always be female Custodes.
From my perspective GW could freely close their doors today and I would abaolutly give no fucks. Why? I have so many minis at home to paint, books to read, old editions and missions to play that I have enough for my entire life. Plus the new lore is pure garbage so I am not even bothering to follow.
>>97914620If it doesn't matter, why change it? If you don't care, let me win.
>>97914620this isn't about female custodes its about female marines retard
>>97914440Custodes look like that? Maybe it's time to start an army.
>>97915763Sure. Now let's see yours.
>>97916649Nice colletion bro.
>>97916794Thanks. There's a little more gray in it than I'd like, but I fine it helps to keep the backlog in sight and in mind, rather than hidden in s figure case.
>>97914679>What many don’t want to accept is that male is about as integral to the 40k space marine as being a black African is integral to The Black Panther superhero.Are there more examples of this sort of thing? I think the biggest reason it became male only was primarily because the power armored females (even if they were just adventurers) did not sell well.Some like to say it is because of sexism and I think that may have played a part.>butEven by oldhammer sculpt standards those models are pretty awful. I don't think the GW sculptors ever could sculpt a proper female face to save their lives.Not even looking for super model or animu female faces. I don't think they can. And probably aren't allowed to by executives nowadays if I'm being honest.>>97916649>Now let's see yours.He won't post them. You've won this battle. You've beaten him if those really are your models.You've now given a troll a schizo obsession. For better or worse you will be obsessed over now.
>>97914679>What many don’t want to accept is that male is about as integral to the 40k space marine as being a black African is integral to The Black Panther superhero.Funny you say that, since marvel went and made black panther white and it's apparently the most interesting run the superhero ever had.
>>97914440So has the current CEO ever said they aren't a data driven company. Because who gives a fuck about what a former CEO said, what, a decade ago./Thread
>>97917194>marvel went and made black panther whiteThat was a stupid choice. I'm sure some fans reacted negatively to that choice.>it's apparently the most interesting run the superhero ever had.That's actually funny in a morbid way. Not the first time Marvel made a bad choice.Remember the New Warriors thing? That stuff is beyond "so bad it is good." To me it is "so bad it is inspirational." It was insulting to the targeted audience and the writers had good intentions all the way through and somehow made a bigger insult than any actual bigot could come up with.Admittedly a big driving force to have female space marines is just activists that want to spite their chud boogeyman instead of making a real difference. Which I think is just disappointing as they're just crazy bad examples chuds can point at to make fence sitters look at and sympathize with chud stuff.
>>97916649Why don't you post stuff in a photo taken this fucking year.> Grey plastic in his display caseYikes
>>97917229Let's. See. Yours.
Haha remember when they said Wraithbone was actually an alloy of metals and minerals? That came out in the same period as female Custodes.
>>97914620>femboy sororitasI’d buy
>>97914620>I’d understand this much of a spergout if they added men to SororitasNo? That would be awesome. We could get handsome zealous hunks and twinks. That would be really cool.
>>97914620>added men to sororitasThis has already been done with male inquisitors/priests.This is kind of being done with inserting women into space marine boxes but not as female space marines. That Lotara Sarin character is probably the biggest example.>>97917441>We could get handsome zealous hunks and twinks.We won't get that, anon.Attractive faces are probably mandated by executives to not be done. I don't know why.>>97917303He won't post models with a timestamp. I will be proven right.
Models are fucking stupid and a lower barrier to entry than actually reading the lore.You are both trannies.
>>97917575Who are you talking to?
>>97917653Me, myself, and I, and those other two.
>>97914679>I think gw did the femstodes to throw a bone to “that performative crowd.” Used to be that sororitas were the explanation but now custodes had to be on the sacrificial alter for themAnd like SoB before them, Custodes will eventually not be enough.FeMarines in a decade at most.
Isn't the huge backstab of deleting legends in 11th worse than femstodes ?Boobs armour is stupid for Custodes, that's neither their function in the imperium or their lore of philosophical warriors.
>>97919814Battle Sisters were never for the genderqueers, they've always been coded as bondage fetish nuns. For the male gaze, as the femoids might say.Femstodes are a "safe" way to introduce female marines because they've never been explicitly forbidden by the lore. Sure, the Custodes have been referred to as men elevated through arcane geno-alchemy to become the Emperor's companions, but to the mind of a subversive "man" is just a race, it's the Imperium of Man, you can have male and female men.Except that it's not safe at all and in fact invited a huge backlash. Games Workshop takes years to bring a product to market and what may have seemed like a great idea to pander to the screeching leftoids five years ago is suddenly looking a lot more like a rake they didn't need to step on, today.Games Workshop is a business, they're trying to make money - and if the cost of placating the blue-haired progressives is more than they'd stand to make on a given product, you can bet what they'll be prioritizing on the next one.Their cultural moment is over, the progs overplayed their hand and now everyone is tired of exhibitionist queers forcing you to participate in their autogynephilic fantasy lives. Games Workshop is actively pivoting back to the shit that people are nostalgic for from thirty years ago, they're not going to die on the progressive hill just because freelancers like Aaron Dembski-Bowden and Mike Brooks want to be subversive. Not when there's a dollar value consequence associated with it.If they were smart, they would have left it a choice in the hands of their hobbyists; include female heads but make the models otherwise indistinguishable from one another, like they've done with the Cadians and Votann. But, no, they just had to indulge the fetishists and put an equal number of narrow-waisted boobplates in the box and now the new Custodes will forevermore be the genderqueer kit, while normal people can just carry on using the 40k Custodian Guard.
>>97920422>Battle Sisters were never for the genderqueers, they've always been coded as bondage fetish nuns. For the male gaze, as the femoids might say.I should buy a SoB army.
>>97920422>what may have seemed like a great idea to pander to the screeching leftoids five years ago is suddenly looking a lot more like a rake they didn't need to step on, todayYou say that, but companies like GW and WotC run on people writing the constant stream of tiny lore blurbs. The only people who would spend 5 years of studying english literature only to take a "creative writing" job that pays less than a barista are people who care about making a difference. It won't matter if investors demand that they pivot to profitability when the enployees are willing to lie about what will be profitable.And if they don't care about their actual salary being profitable they sure as hell won't care about the company profits
>>97917441Why do you think there would be twinks?
>>97917303Hello? Helllloooooooo?????
>>97921239>tiny lore blurbsNot quoted but honestly the worst part about modern GW is those tiny lore blurbs. On the WFHB side Cathayans that have a ton of potential, where I could come up like ten different options just off the top of my head, to be cool are written like disney people without the charm.And on the WFRP side you have Cubicle7 vacillating between telling you your goal ought to be progressiveness and shoving in black imperials nobles and caricatures of that black dwarf from Rings of Power.Frankly if they keep on going like this I can see people start dropping out.
>>97921672>Chinese people are averse to depictions of skulls and bones>Chinese people get upset if they are depicted as dirty, smelly and ignorant like everybody else>Chinese people will not buy this product no matter how they are pandered toTrying to pander to the Chinese market, was a mistake.Cathay literally aren't allowed to be interesting, for the same reason Araby never became a fully fleshed out faction.
>>97921990The thing is that isn't really true. You'd just have to rip-off their own pulp novel/webnovel stuff. You have tons of dark fantasy takes on their own culture, most of them better than modern GW stuff.
>>97921990>Trying to pander to the Chinese market, was a mistake.Yes, but not for the reasons you think. China doesn't care about GW's intellectual property, if there's a demand for tabletop miniature wargaming in PRC then they'll just steal it and make their own. This is a huge problem in the Gunpla hobby right now because it is absolutely awash with Chinese bootlegs that are actually pretty good, but are not primarily intended for export and so cut Bandai out of the loop entirely.They'll do the same to GW, although I wouldn't assume that they aren't already. Forge World basically jumpstarted the Chineacast industry when they tried outsourcing there in 2010 and GW has been paying the price for it ever since. Trying to court China as a "legitimate" market is a wasted effort.
>>97922003And none of it would mesh with Warhammer aesthetically or thematically, and the end result would be grey slime.>>97922219That also, but I thought the Chinese contempt for Western intellectual property was so obvious it could go unstated.
>>97922403>And none of it would mesh with Warhammer aesthetically or thematicallyHonestly most of it probably fits in fine. They have their grotesque ones with the undead, the ones where it's all grimdark, the ones where the emperor is just weak or supernaturally evil or only cares about grain/swords/'leylines' and every governor and general is actually a petty warlord etc. Really I can think of a dozen ways. Including less AoS-y monster units and warriors.Instead they seem to have decided on Disney / Tau.
>>97922462I feel like Xianxia influences would bleed in and make it a "Superhero" faction if the Chinese had their way.Hence my presumption of basic thematic incompatibility.Their storytelling traditions kinda suck balls imo; I tire of their omnipotent infallible protagonists.
>>97922552>I tire of their omnipotent infallible protagonists.Doesn't sound like you've read any desu.
>>97917303>>97917162>>97921639Once again, the people bitching about /pol/ "invaders" are shown to be the invaders themselves.
>>97922614In truth?No, I was always turned off by the blurb on the back or the tv tropes page.Y'know when you see something and you just know "this is not for me".It's foreign to me.Literally.Also I have a probably more grounded understanding that I'm not going to understand a lot of Chinese cultural references, which will make a lot of shit seem absurd and out of context.
>>97914620>added men to sororitasHeard of the Frateris Militia, tourist?>my headcanonMy headcanon is based on 40 years of "sons". What is yours based on, Jew?
>>97922895Many such cases. It's all about demoralization, they don't actually care if you have models or not but they know that YOU care - which is why the attack changed from "post models" to "eww unpainted models" the moment >>97916649 actually did. They want you to feel bad about your hobby because a shamed hobbyist is a compliant hobbyist.
>>97916649>Smurfs, IW, and greytideBooo.
>>97922924>Y'know when you see something and you just know "this is not for me".I mean that's fine. I wasn't really into it when I started either and I know a lot of people who love cape comics while they do nothing for me. Just saying they're not really omnipotent or infallible at all so that's a misunderstanding of the genre. Even their whacko power fantasy (which exist but are not the majority) ones don't go quite that far. Think less "superheroes" novels and more pulp fantasy. With pulp protagonists, and that includes good guys, douchebags, amoral picaresques and outright villains. (even a few i'd characterize as misery porn)If xianxia is high-powered (and it doesn't really have to be, as long as it's focused on "immortal cultivation" that usually means xianxia) they often change the 'landscape' as it were to were everyone is and the protags are usually on the lower-end to keep the stakes going. It's actually a trope of theirs that once you get powerful enough you move to another bigger place (another region, another realm, an upper domain what have you) where they're stronger than the protags and there's better resources to be had. Pretty common to see them start in basically the WFRP equivalent of starting out as a particularly poor and backwards Stirlander or Breton peasant before they get to start mucking up Ulthuan.
>>97923117Thanks, it's the autism.
