How easy would it be for you to be convinced to join the Greater Good™ if you were an Imperial citizen?
By posting your Tau models.
>most humans in 40k live in shit and eat processed dead bodiesVery easy.
>>97916739>Join Greater>the Good?
>>97916739Post your models.
>>97916790>Imagine being at computers
>>97916790>Gue'la can't even read their own language Tragic.
>>97916815>Pin cus Fight>Me I>Down can't Back
>>97916825This is clearly a turtle stuck on its back asking for help.
>>97916792>dox your models so i can become obsessed with you and wear your skinNo???
>>97916754SPBP.The Human Empire is a fail(ing) state of squalor, retarded fundamentalism and counterproductive politicking by (((regional governors and cult leaders))) who are more interested in their personal enrichment and worship.Gue'vesa defectors live better than 99,9%+ of humanity simply by being served a decent hot meal and a warm bed every day.
>>97916739Honestly bro life for imperials is so dogshit that I'd defect to space piracy if I could, let alone the Tau empire.
>>97916739They aren't Bri*ish, so very easily.
>>97916754Pretty much this.>THEY STERILIZE YOUThat would imply you already aren't sterile to be honest, I wonder how many "citizens" are basically huge lumps of mutated cancer.
>uhhhhh yeah I'd totally be a snowflake that defects behind the Imperium's back without hesitation>even though I've been indoctrinated from birth to believe the alien is a subversive and malefic presence that seeks only to deceive and destroy>and it will all go great because I am totally not the species-wide equivalent of a rogue psyker's daemonic invasion time bomb waiting to go off the moment the Tau turn their backThe fact the Tau don't outright genocide mankind for our warp sensitivity is just a tiny bit unbelievable.
>>97916933>>97916963Look guys, you are describing Hive Worlds and the absolute dog shit condition people live in on them. The Tau do not control a lot of space, and the list of Hive Worlds they've encountered is very short. The majority of worlds the Tau Empire have exerted themselves on are probably Agriworlds and life on those isn't quite as shit. A lot of them are so disconnected from the every day grimdark they might as well be a Pre-DAoT Terran medieval fiefdom with protected by ancient titan-sentinels ala Knights.Imagine living your Amish-coded life with a wife and twenty kids only for the Tau to come down out of the sky screeching about GREATER GOOD and that you should commit blasphemy against the god of your fathers and your father's fathers. I don't think you're going to be as eager as you think you would be.
>>97917360The question is about what I would do if I were an Imperial citizen. Some brainwashed agri-world serf simply isn't me in any sense of the word. And as we see in the lore, plenty of them do defect anyways because a lot of agri-worlds and frontier worlds suck dick too. Le pastoral paradise is a meme.
>>97917376>plenty of them do defect anyways because a lot of agri-worlds and frontier worlds suck dick too. Le pastoral paradise is a meme.So is "le benevolent greater good", because the alternative to defection is death.
>>97916739reminder that tau sterilize humans and they are evil
>>97917387Who the fuck said brought up "le benevolent greater good"? The Tau empire simply has far better living standards than 99.99% of the Imperium. It's not even remotely close.
>>97917323What the fuck is a Primaris doing in a Rhino? Shouldnt he be driving one of their stupid overgunned flying boot things?
neinfarsight memeclaves all the wayrailing buxom tauwives until i get stomped by an ork
>>97917391>The Tau empire simply has far better living standards than 99.99% of the ImperiumFeel free to direct me to any story that details vastly improved living standards for Hiveworlders under the Tau Empire. I am not familiar with any.>>97917420Maybe he's taking it to get upgraded.
>>97917428The Tau codex??
>>97916739I'd ask the stiff price of food without rat shit in it and a place to sleep without leaking sewage pipes
No, we're making the Greater Good work for the Imperium.
you all failed the testyou're getting turned into servitors
>>97917494
>>97917424>522x1024Post this in a size meant for actual human consumption.
>>97916914>nomodels secondary posting nogames shit againTypical. Fuck off.
>>97917452Cool that doesn't say anything about annexed Hiveworlds though. In fact, if I recall correctly, primarily human worlds are not given access to a great majority of the most advanced Tau technology particularly weapons. Many make do with the STC patterns they were using before the Tau took over.
>>97917521>that titty sagDamn that's good. Mega milkers need a bit of it to look right.
>>97916792>>97917522As I've offered countless times, prove that you're a real janny and I'll gladly post mine.
>>97917623>um that proof isn't good enough o algo, it needs to meet my arbitrary standard in order to disprove the assertion I pulled out of my ass!!!Nobody even brought up hive worlds until you started sperging out about how only hive worlds have poor living conditions. I'm not going to dig through lore books for you. This is your last (you).
How much tau propaganda is the Imperial citizen on a border world actually exposed to? I would assume that any broadcast or data stream would be blocked by Imperial authorities.
>>97917323Well at least one faction of Tau do and those are the ones who survived the 4th sphere expansion incident.Funnily enough the Ethereals had to segregate those Tau from any and all auxiliaries cause they'd kill em especially humans. Those lot aside the Tau are just as willing to destroy other species to fortify their own efforts, remember how they established Bork'an? Another species lived on the planet and then all died from a plague that the Tau were immune to. Now it isnt explicitly stated it was the Tau genociding them all with a manufactured plague but we can all agree thats fishy as hell.
>>97917863>Nobody even brought up hive worldsBullshit. The "99% of the Imperium" is directed squarely at people that live in Hive Cities, especially when they start invoking corpse starch. Or did you forget that the most prolific producers of it are the Corpse Guilds?>until you started sperging outSays the guy citing footnotes that don't actually talk about how humans live once the Tau have taken over. "Imperial hives are replicated in miles-wide swathes" is profoundly vague. I'd ask you what book that's from but I feel like you're more interested in throwing a tantrum because your Space Commies' altruism was questioned than actually talking about the subject.>>97917954>Well at least one faction of Tau do and those are the ones who survived the 4th sphere expansion incident.That's when they fucked with warp travel and encountered a warp-entity embodying the Greater Good, right? Not surprising, given how fucking disgusting that would have been to them.>Now it isnt explicitly stated it was the Tau genociding them all with a manufactured plague but we can all agree thats fishy as hell.Tau doing fucked up shit is always glazed over which annoys the piss out of me. The way Farsight talks about them is a thousand times more damning than most of the codices are. The way he talks they're just as bad as the Imperium in many ways.
>>97917977Yeah, they tried warp travelling with gellar fields with human auxiliaries on board. Shock horror it goes badly, daemons swarm on and they get saved by the embodiment of the Greater Good that was manifested by humanity and other psychic races.Its mostly just people either too stuck in the whole Tau are the good guys because thats what they got sold to them as or willingly overlooking the evil they do to feel some sense of moral superiority. Though I could just be smoking crack on that hypothesis
>>97917999>daemons swarm on and they get saved by the embodiment of the Greater Good that was manifested by humanity and other psychic racesIt's kind of funny that the one time they encounter a psychic manifestation of their own ideology they pull psyker-hate straight out of the Imperium's playbook.>Its mostly just people either too stuck in the whole Tau are the good guys because thats what they got sold to them as or willingly overlooking the evil they do to feel some sense of moral superiority.That's the weird thing: I have seen people bitch about "Imperiumfagging" and arguments that the Imperium isn't as actively evil as it appears to a casual glance. But then if you question the Tau Empire's tolerance and benevolence people jump your ass with a zealous fervor. The Tau's abstract goodness has limits that are not as broad as you might think, just as the Orks' intolerance for other species is also not as broad as is immediately apparent. On Angelus the Orks live around and tolerate the savage human Diggaz, even trading with them, so they're not as fully psychotic as they may appear. The Tau have a zero tolerance policy for Orks though, which you could rightfully argue is deserved but ostensibly one-sided.
>>97917886>I would assume that any broadcast or data stream would be blocked by Imperial authorities.Considering that the Imperium's interstellar communications run on telepathy (astropaths) and the tau's don't I don't think there's going to be a lot of receivers around that could even pick up any Tau signal. Especially since the ordo xenos, adeptus arbites, perhaps ordo hereticus because they don't like being excluded, and possibly even the adeptus mechanicus are going to have ideas about anyone with a hobbyist radio-telescope in their back yard.Any propaganda that does show up would presumably be almost exclusively from tau agents/forces (depending on how contested the neighbourhood is) on the planet, or at least within the system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wckZcVFLU24
>>97918077I love Macross but Minmei sucks.
>retards unironically think they wouldn't defect at the first available opportunityimperiumfaggingnot even once
>>97917886
Can I pilot one of the big robots?
>>97918172People who buy the Tau's propaganda would probably also buy a Chaos/Xenos Cult's propaganda. That's the trouble: If your life is so shit, and your indoctrination so weak, that you would jump on board with a revolutionary movement against the Imperium you will probably end up balls deep in a xenohybrid or having your guts infested with maggots that eat your constantly regenerating intestines. Comparatively speaking the Tau are a lot smaller than either of those groups too so the frequency of being fucked by that predilection is much higher.
>>97918299Not likely. They're gene-locked and will fry your ass to death if you get inside one. By my understanding, Gue'vasa are lucky to get pulse weapons even in dire circumstances.
>>97918299You likely wouldn't fit in one. Tai are smaller than humans and the cockpits are routinely described as cramped.
>>97917886>>97918281This juat seems like blatant WMAF fetish material.
>>97918311>>97918337Why even bother then? Can I atleast get a stealth suit? >>97918355Genuinely shocking the artist could take a break from the constant stream of Twink fetish material
>>97917360I'm sure all Forge worlds, War worlds and whatever they call those global strip mine toxic hellholes are wonderful and habitats as well, not to mentio...>>97917387Oh wait, this is just plain meme-trolling.
>>97918401>Why even bother then?It's more a question of how lucky you are to either not be fucked by your sedition, or be one of the survivors of a Tau conquest. Assuming the Tau don't sterilize humans on a planet like they did in that one game the post-conquest descendants aren't going to remember the Imperium anyway. Ideally humans aren't used in a military capacity by the Tau Empire and Gue'vasa are called to arms only when situationally necessary. Put humans in a nice peaceful agricultural life and they'll do fine. Put humans on a battlefield and they get all buttfuck crazy.>>97918437I'm sure you think the entire Imperium is composed of hyper-centralized industrial complexes. Because that'd explain why losing one is such a massive problem. Your blue communist faggots are not noblebright and they never were.
>>97917623>>97917977>secondaries' twitter-tier head canon time and again proven wrong,>they try to dig in even harder
>>97917096not to mention the Imperium also sterilizes you if you so much as catch of glimpse of something they don't want you to see, followed by then putting you in a camp to slave away until you die
>n-nooooo my favorite soft-socialist caste based oligarchy is objectively GOOD>y-you're a secondary if you bring up Farsight's outright condemnation of the Tau Empire as a farce of censorship, propaganda, and Ethereal supremacyI really have to wonder how much mental gymnastics it takes to simultaneously believe the Tau Empire is good and just but the Imperium is objectively evil.
>>97916754I thought other then Hive and mechanicus worlds, the average human leads a comfy life. Agri worlds I imagine are pretty nice to live on.
>>97918739>average human lives a comfy lifethey don't, agri worlds especially are giga hell holes since the entire place is polluted with chemicals that slowly kill you just so food grows more, in other words like an actual farmer but worse
>>97918739No, no, clearly everyone in the Imperium lives in underhive or forgeworld conditions. Anyone who disagrees with this is a "secondary" even though there's sources stating that there are worlds that are barely even conscious of the greater Imperium or the galactic war.
>>97918889>simping for foids when the superior option is right therecouldn't be me
>>97918889Whore.
>>97918905>robotjones is even doing the twink shitIt's over.
>>97918437>country aristocratZoomer urbanites are genuinely cunted in the head.
>>97919057Well yeah that much is obvious.>THE IMPERIUM'S EUGENICS ARE EVIL!!!!>the Tau's caste system is for the greater good :DDDDD
If I knew what I know now, I'd be actively defecting. But since it's very unlikely that I'd know anything, I'll most likely fight until all hope is lost and then an hero.I might change my tune if there were a lot of other Gue'la and they try to hearts and minds my ass with concrete displays of non-aggression.
>>97919161>Gue'la images are incredibly blown out and low qualitySad.
>>97918299It's physically possible at least.>>97918318>>97918337There's a human in Broken Sword that pilots a crisis suit. A former inquisitor named Lucien van Deem. He's even a commander.
>>97917503>you all failed the test>you're getting turned into servitorsBut I'm already a Daemon...>>97918311>you will probably end up balls deep in a xenohybrid...Why do you say that like it's a BAD thing?
Suffer not the Xeno to live.
>>97916739Given that tau offer a superior quality of life to humans living under their rule than what 99 percent of imperial citizens get to enjoy, convincing me to switch sides wouldn't be difficult at all.
>>97916868Her fat blue titties are weighing her down.
>genestealersno way>nurgleno way>slaaneshno way>khorneHe doesn't even help you unless you're already strong.>TzeenchHe's just going to fuck you over for no reason.Plus all the chaos gods rape your soul forever after you die, so...>the ImperiumLive like a medieval peasant if you are lucky, worked to the bone for 35 years and turned into corpse starch if you are average, turned into a servitor if you are unlucky, nigh infinite torture via daemons or drukhari if you are really unluckyI'd rather kill myself honestly. Tau are the only option for an average human that wouldn't make me blow my brains out. That's if you are lucky enough to even have the option.Although if I could pick any human role I'd probably be a rogue trader or something.
>>97919312Is that why there are so few female battlesuit pilots? They can't fit in them?
>>97916739>Join an inferior and primitive empire that will be wiped out by 41k>Be a second class citizen of a third class caste>Betray my race and the only hope for the galaxy to not get fucked by chaos>Buh muh living standards will be betterNigger, I'm a human, and life as the richest human in the Imperium is far better then being some Tau Caste wagey. As low as the chances are, as a human I'll try to attain better or die, which is why humanity is the greatest empire in the galaxy while tau are the most irrelevent race in the universe, below even the nigh extinct eldar and the already extinct necrons
>>97918739>life on agri worlds is niceanon....>why is the text so smallbecause its a long exerpt
>>97919422anon you are not grindmaxxing your way into hereditary nobility
>>97919295>...Why do you say that like it's a BAD thing?Because your children are going to look like this
>>97917323>uhhhhh yeah I'd totally be a snowflake that defects behind the Imperium's back without hesitationYes, i do not self insert into loosers>even though I've been indoctrinated from birth to believe the alien is a subversive and malefic presence that seeks only to deceive and destroypeople have also been indotrinated since birth that martyrdom and toil is holy sermon, yet they still rebell all the time>and it will all go great because I am totally not the species-wide equivalent of a rogue psyker's daemonic invasion time bomb waiting to go off the moment the Tau turn their backoh so NOW im the special snowflake apocalypse tier psyker bomb?how convenient
I wonder how fast you would get killed as a heretek in the mechanicus? Like, how far do you have to go to arouse suspicion that you are actually trying to understand how the machines work?
>>97918739>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginableDoesn't sound very comfy.
>>97919472depends on the writer and the type of story he wants to tell. Range goes from instantly to never.
>>97919368They get reassigned or put into Supremacy armor since those are the only cockpits big enough.
>>97919462>Yes, i do not self insert into loosersFunny that you'd favor the Tau since they've spent half their time as a faction bumblefucking their way through a universe they don't really understand thanks to their dull souls.>people have also been indotrinated since birth that martyrdom and toil is holy sermon, yet they still rebell all the timeWhy do I get the feeling you fancy yourself a rebel for pretending you're a cultural reformist on bluesky?>oh so NOW im the special snowflake apocalypse tier psyker bomb?Humanity itself is a ticking time bomb to the Tau you self-centered retard. Do you understand anything about this setting, the Warp, psykers, or daemons?
>>97916739Extremely easy. The Tau Empire is a vast improvement no matter what planet you're on and how high you are in the hierarchy. You'll get real food, clean living conditions, a better less exhausting job, better treatment by your bosses, better military gear, more protection, etc.Pretty much every Imperium world sucks. Hive worlds are miserable dens of squalor, crime, and starvation, agri-worlds are polluted hellscapes that churn out barely edible slop, civilized worlds are just North Korea spread across an entire planet, paradise worlds have 99.9% of the population as abused sex slaves subjected to barely concealed Slaaneshi-tier cults, death worlds require no explanation, feudal worlds is just Brettonia and all that implies, etc.Even in Ultramar, the peak of the Imperium's quality of life, the average lifespan is like fucking 30. Even accounting for infant mortality that is abysmal.
>>97917640Stupid cow.
>>97917360>Imagine living your Amish-coded lifePic related is your 'amish-coded life'
>>97919584>every Agriworld is run by the MechanicusAh yes, and every Fortress World is Cadian.
>>97919608Nobody said anything about the mechanicus, lots of non-mechanic worlds use servitors, but we do know agri-worlds are polluted hellholes.
>>97919614Are you fucking blind?
>>97919618Are you? >>97919429
>>97919573It's literally their nature.
>>97919624>n-nobody said anything about the mechanicus>posts image with mechanicus iconography towering over everything elseYou know it's funny, you faggots never actually tell me which books any of these things are from either. You just throw a tantrum and deflect.
>>97919634It's from the Lords of Silence.
>>97919608Pretty much every description of Agri-worlds are grim. Natural flora and fauna are exterminated to make way for a crop monoculture that extends as far as the eye can see. Imagine if 1984 was set in Oklahoma, and you'll get a better idea of what being an agri-world worker is like.
>>97919656Anon, he's not interested in listening, notice how he went quiet as soon as the book's name was dropped? He prefers his headcanon where the Imperium is an amish paradise.
>>97919643>Chris WraightDisgusting.>>97919663>didn't post within 5 minutes>he went quiet!Well now I definitely am not interested in listening and you can go fuck yourself with a rusty hook, crypto-communist faggot xeno-worshipper.
>>97919686Ah yes, it's the old 'fascism is actually communism' argument you fags always make lmao
>>97919700>looks at caste-based strict authoritarian culture with oligarchic overlords born into power that carefully curate what every single inhabitant of their empire is allowed to see, say, or do>sees nothing but freedom and kindnessBrain damaged.
>>97919712I never said anything about freedom. You're the only faggot here arguing that in a world like 40k people should be concerned with some libshit idea of personal freedom and democracy.
>>97919712>fascism = freedom and kindness
>>97919715>>97919718Your arguments have lost all cohesion and you're just throwing random as fuck non-sequiturs around. Then again I shouldn't be surprised, you throw around Wraight's novels as if they're codex text.
>>97919722You sperged out when someone did link codex text.
>>97919722>"You can't name me the book it's from!">"Oh yeah, well...you knew what book it was from!"So you're just contradicting your earlier arguments. Thanks, that makes it all the easier to disregard you as a retard.
>>97919526>>Even in Ultramar, the peak of the Imperium's quality of life, the average lifespan is like fucking 30. Even accounting for infant mortality that is abysmal.While I agree with you in general, that specific example is from that one Marvel comic book about Marneus Calgar which should be taken with at least a grain or two of salt regarding the conditions in Ultramar.
>>97919737>>97919739Go fellate eachother in the discord server you came from. Insults, deflections, and non-cogent blithering are not meaningful to this discussion. You've gaslit yourselves into believing the Imperium is full of people that'd just trust xenos off-hand which is flagrantly wrong.
>>97919755>You've gaslit yourselves into believing the Imperium is full of people that'd just trust xenos off-handThe Imperium isn't centralized enough to control the minds of its citizens like that. By the time the Tau take over world diplomatically, the civilian populace has already come to love the Tau. And even the ones that require military force tend to be more comfortable with the Tau than usual. There are even Scions that are known for working closely with the Tau.
>>97919755Lmao assblasted
>>97919776Okay you're just fucking with me, that's fair enough.>>97919783You on the other hand are a faggot.
>>97919800>Okay you're just fucking with meRead the Taros Campaign you fucking secondary
I don’t know how you can convince yourself that the Imperium doesn’t have dogshit living standards compare to the Tau
>>97919823It's simple:First, you disregard all sources that disagree with youThen, you make up headcanon about agri-worlds being rural paradisesAnd then you call everyone who disagrees with you a fascist or a commie because 40k is actually supposed to be about the Triumph of liberal democracy and the welfare state or some shit.
This one whiny imperium fagboy aside, it's worth remembering that the Imperium has quite a lot of these things called civilized worlds, which are basically like something akin to 20/21st century earth in terms of living conditions. Now, I realize that the Tau can offer people who live on said civilized worlds an overall improvement in their living conditions, but at the same time life isn't so bad in these places that the populace of said worlds would necessarily be willing to take that risk, given what the imperium does to people who rebel against them, typically.
>>97919823Some imperium fags are allergic to the notion imperium actually being a horrible dystopia. They justt ignore the whole "cruellest and the most bloody regime imaginable" part about the Imperium
>>97919823Pretty easily since Gue'vasa are denied many tau technologies and amenities.
>>97919842That's fair, to a point, but at the same time a lot of that has to do with the fact that so much of the Imperium's population lives on hive worlds, which distorts the picture quite a bit. Yes, much if not most of the imperium's populace lives in dystopian conditions because of those aforementioned hive worlds, but at the same time you have plenty of worlds where the average person has at least an okay quality of life.
>>97919840>civilized worlds, which are basically like something akin to 20/21st century earth in terms of living conditionsIt'd be pretty accurate to call those places the worst of the 20/21st century, the North Koreas and Victorian era factories of the world
>>97919840Somewhere in the Imperium there is a perfect simulacrum of a traditional norf pub with a frosty mug of ale and a hot side of chips waiting for you
Case in point, Taros. A civilized world, but also a shitty desert mining planet with an overworked miner population and extortionate tithes. The Tau taking over lead to measurable improvements in quality of life that lead to the Gue'vesa population vastly increasing and going from one city to many sprawling across the planet.
>>97919803>Read the Taros Campaign you fucking secondaryWait, you legitimately believe the Tau take power peacefully and are just accepted by the population of entire worlds without friction, resistance, or uprising as a rule? That's a shame, I thought you were just peddling bullshit as a joke.
>>97919901>you legitimately believe the Tau take power peacefullyMost of the time, yes. Sometimes they do have to fight for it, but it's noted that the water caste have obtained more worlds than the fire caste.
>>97919867I'd say that depends on the world in question and who's writing about it, honestly.>>97919876>>traditional norf pub>>frosty mug of aleI thought British people typically liked their booze room temperature?>>Hot side of fries>>No burger.I strongly object to this as an American.
>>97919440>Because your children are going to look like thisSure that isn't just your shit genes, bro?>>97919573>>97919625For the Greater Moo!
>>97919930>it's noted that the water caste have obtained more worlds than the fire casteThat makes sense. The water caste is responsible for curating the dissemination of information according to the will of the Ethereals. It's their job to persuade, coerce, and mislead. Meanwhile the fire caste are the ones that are going to get thrown into a shitstorm against well fortified worlds. It's a bit of a rigged competition between the two. It's no wonder Farsight fucked off after becoming disillusioned.On that note, can we get a Farsight Enclaves ruleset that fields lots of auxiliaries and Gue'vasa? I'm dying over here waiting for the gay Tau Empire to get a cool subfaction when the Imperium has several. Hell even the Tyranids got Genestealer Cults back, and thank fuck for that because GW are dead set on making Astartes and Custodes gay too.
>>97919901Soft Power is a hell of a drug.
>>97920010>Soft PowerHmm....
>>97919998I'm still waiting for us to get a Vorgh model>tfw no 100 foot tall lizard milf to save your starving Imperial ass
>Agriworlds are comfy amish utopias!>Agriworlds are hellish slave plantations!>Civilized worlds are just real life!>Civilized worlds are north Korea!You are...all correct!The fun thing about the Imperium is that it's so stupidly large and inconsistent most things could be true. All of these worlds could exist somewhere. Hell, even by the point of 40k, I'm fairly certain there are still worlds lost to the Imperium and isolated since the DAoT
>>97920018It is the Will of the T'au'va!
>>97920031I'm waiting for worlds occupied/protected by survivors from the lost legions.
>>97920025>The weeb mech-suit faction has kaiju Of course they do.
>>97920034I can't wait for her to never come up again and then get hastily retconned once GW realized they forgot about her.
>>97919430I'm aiming to be the sycophant of a hereditary noble or rogue trader
>>97916739Extremely easy.
>>97920046They're noted as being remarkably gentle too for creatures of their size (except when roused to anger to protect their friends).>tfw my gentlefag giantess fantasies are possible in the Tau Empire
>>97920059>have a relatively comfortable life where you needs are met>be a literal Igor to one of the biggest pieces of shit in the ImperiumYour choices are strange ones.
>>97920052WE will remember!...Plus they started making her Shadowsun's deific patron, so she hopefully won't get the Ynnead treatment.
>>97920067You need to yiff in hell, furfaggot tourist.
>>97920025>should we expand on the concept of a multi-species xeno empire with a subfaction that prefers a decentralized and practical approach to governance compared to their parent empire?>nah let's put a chick in custodes and make them gayfucking GW. Farsight has been set up in the perfect position to lead a relatively hands-off coalition made up of everything from tau peasants to human & kroot pirates and giant lizard gorilla mercenaries but they just leave him spinning as a red-colored Tau separatist
>>97920102lmao, u leave, we were here first, secondary.
>>97920031>>You are...all correct!Well yeah, which is why the question in the OP depends highly on what sort of world I would be on. If I'm living on some hellish nightmare planet? Then the blueberries won't have to work to hard. If I'm living on a planet that's at least okay to live upon or even outright good? Then the blueberries will have to work much, much harder to convince me to risk treason/heresy/whatever else it's called.
>this is the future Taufags want
>>97920388Some of them, yes. Including me, less because of taufaggotry and more due to just liking waifus in general though.
>>97920398Fair play.
>>97918447>>97919722>>97919755 etcI take it all 40k threads are like this, these days? /pol/troon thirdies contradicting and falling over themselves to whiteknight some facebook-level of knowledge about a setting and hobby they have no understanding of? All for le orange gud-emperor or whatever. Just look at >>97919057:>cunted in the headNgl, I feel like I'm reading some procedurally generated AI slop hallucination.
>>97920402>>dem boobasGreater goods indeed.
>>97920052>>97920100She's a cool concept! It would be neat seeing her again sometime, even just as an occasional background mention.I honestly didn't even have much problem with the Ynnead idea, it was a vaguely interesting progression in the setting that could've gone somewhere, middling but not outrageously bad... and instead it just seemed to peter out?
>>97920460Discourse and content on this board has been godawful since the drawfags mostly left in the early 2010s.
>>97920471NTA, but yes, Tau'va goddess has some potential for interesting things in the setting. Ynnead has been put on the backburner the way stuff in the 40k background tends to be until they decide to bring it back into the forefront again for whatever reason.
>>97920469Captured the mind of many a mortal man.
>>97920477'tis a shame: It wasn't great to begin with, but it was at least somewhat honest. And actual dingbats and assholes can at least be somewhat entertaining at times, unlike mass produced make-believe ones.
>>97920490It wasn't great in the aggregate but there were some small pockets of really cool and creative people.
>>97920504How quaint Tau measurements were back then. Everything's gotten bigger.
>>97920460>Ngl, I feel like I'm reading some procedurally generated AI slop hallucination.You're just picking up on AI's little quirks as they botpost with a pass. Watch for weirdly long hyphens, it's their mark.
>>97920147>I-I've been here since 2016 honest!Every time lmaoNow that your zoophile revisionist history card has been refused, play the next one; "it's Current Year so you can't fursecute us!"
>>97920074Being an Igor is based as fuck though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po7q0OJS9RQ
I hear that Tau women have "greater goods" if you know what I mean...
>>97920460>noooo you have to march lockstep with my opinions or you're from FACEBOOK!Fuck off. You've infested every hobby you could get your slithering tendrils into and it has resulted in nothing but infantile garbage and pandering to people that don't even play wargames.
>>97920595Enormous tits?
>>97920546>You've only been here since 2016lmao, thank you for outing yourself as a newfag.
>>97920672Molesting this Tau in particular.
>>97919686Chris Wraight is literally the only author worth a shit in black library. I will not stand slander on his name from trogs like you
Tau? Brother I’m falling to chaos on day one.
>>97916739Very
>>97920866>Chris Wraight is literally the only author worth a shit in black library
>>97920899ZASED
After over 10 years in the 40k hobby, tau are the only faction left that I find somewhat interesting.
>>97918739Anon, the whole point 40k is to be a fucking shithole of a setting and the Imperium is its poster child. No, the vast majority of humans live in varying states of misery. No all on the level of Hive world scum scrounging for corpse starch in the radioactive mutant-infested sewers, but literally only the nobility is "comfy".
>>97918703Nobody is actually arguing the Tau is objectively good, just that they provide better living conditions from the perspective of the average Imperium citizen. Which is just true.
there is only one truth in this universe worth followingthe emperor asks you to kneel. The primordial truth demands you to rise.
>>97917096Wasn't the sterilization thing literal in-universe propaganda regardless?
>>97921407It's a thing that they do, but not all the time. It's a discretionary measure that Ethereals enact, kinda like an Exterminatus but quieter.
>>97921407it was on one single rebellious planet from Dawn of War (a third party product)
>>97920518
>>97921440Deathwatch RPG
>>97920546>muh 2016 touristsHow many threads are you gonna do this?
>>97921503>several dozen>while severalThis tickles my autism
>>97921503It should be noted that the planet in question was dangerously overpopulated to the point of nearly being a hive world and was cut off from the rest of the Tau Empire so they could just re-distribute the population like they normally do.
>>97921616Yeah, but it is from a tabletop RPG and not just the videogame. Like I said, it's a thing they do. The Imperium would round up the excess population, form a regiment out of them, and send them to the battlefield. For whatever reason the Ethereals are very reluctant to use Gue'vasa auxiliaries in such a way, which is weird because they've seen fit to include all types of disparate species in their regular armies.
>>97921712Said reason is probably related to Chaos, all things considered. Because everything must come back to Chaos. It's the law.
>>97920398>more due to just liking waifus in general thoughTOO POWERFUL!!!
>>97921721Maybe just warp phenomena in a broad sense. They would have observed similarities between Ork WAAAGH manifestations and human faith manifestations. Psykers are the obvious one, but then there's "miracles" that Sisters of Battle manifest on occasion that could not be explained via material science. Even that's assuming they've never encountered a Living Saint at some point. They would have noticed at some point that human faith, identifiably psyker in origin or not, is a tangible influence on a battlefield at some point.
>>97921749>at some point three timesFuck me. Sorry I haven't slept in a long time.
>>97921721Which doesn't really make too much sense: Humans aren't some sort of stand-out psychic power house faction, if anything we're quite mediocre, it's just that there's a lot of us: We're the wannabe-(humanoid)zerg of the 40k setting.ALL races are vulnerable to the warp and have a presence/footprint in the immaterium, not only humanity. Tau are basically the off-brand Blank exception, which is both a blessing and a curse for them. They're pretty much safe from spontaneous warp fuckery/accidents, but they'll also never be able to utillize actually useful features of the ethereal realm, like >>97920034or (stable) psykers.
>>97920542Idd. Speaking of:>>97918703>>97920604>literally identical posts, reworded but keeping the same shizo soap box straw man reeeingGrim, the motherland ain't sending its best
>>97921943>Which doesn't really make too much sense: Humans aren't some sort of stand-out psychic power house factionIt makes perfect sense if you consider the fact that humans manifest faith miracles in combat. Best case scenario: The Fire Caste would start noticing. Then they might start having second thoughts about the Ethereals being in charge.>>97921978God you people are such schizophrenic retards. Big surprise you're Tau apologists.
>>97921988>he doesn’t know it’s a gameYep definitely a bot
>>97921744Hive Tyrant has evolved into Hive Waifu
>>97920388Yes
There’s this weird dynamic that always pops up in these threads where people pop in to call the Tau fascists and commies (the people making these claims always believe fascism and communism are the same thing) and then act like the Tau are just as bad as everyone else because they’re not a modern western liberal democracy. I don’t really get it, desu. Yes, the Tau are fascists, but the fact that a fascist state in 40k is still by far the nicest faction for a human to live under just goes to show how utterly fucked the setting is.
>>97922684As long as I get bitched at for refusing to label the Imperium as objectively evil I will take the piss out of Taufags.
>>97922824imperiumfag...
>>97922824See, I don’t really care about labels like good and evil, for me, it’s all about “where would you rather live”, and for the vast majority of people that’s an easy choice to make and they’d pick the Tau. I’m not a moralist, I just want to be able to eat real food and sleep in a comfortable bed and not look like a mutated emaciated holocaust survivor because I grew up in an undergone.
>>97922886>undergoneUnderhive, fucking autocorrect
>>97922886Whereas I'm the other way around, GSC is my favorite solely because they are toiling and clawing their way through an underhive made to kill them and ironically end up contributing members of the Imperium despite the entire system being designed to kill them, and succeeding to well at it will also inevitably kill them all.Oh sure, 99% of the time when GSC are depicted in any media it's an uprising against the Imperium but how about xenocultists fighting off orks or chaos assholes? The art and stories about that are practically non-existent. Sad.
>>97916754Completely untrue. Most of humanity live in relative comfort on imperial worlds. The entire idea that the Imperium is perpetually dystopian everywhere all the time is a nu41k thing. Priestley has outright said as much.
>>97922943That’s not true. Even if we assume that most Imperium worlds are okay places to live, the vast majority of humanity lives in hive worlds, because hive worlds have absolutely massive populations compared to civilized worlds. If a civilized world has 10 billion people, and a hive world has 10 quadrillion people, the vast majority of humans are going to be in hives.
>>97922943don't worry eventually Chris Wraight will write a book that retcons it so everyone in the imperium has to lick mud off an Arbitrator's boot to survive
>>97922955>another secondary surprised that the cruelest, bloodiest regime imaginable is cruel and bloody
>>97922943It is funny how imperiumfags just consistently ignore the entire basis of the lore of the imperium. Yeah, sure, most humans live comfortably under the "cruellest and most bloody regime imaginable" lmao.
>>97922978the cruelest bloodiest regime imaginable: now gender inclusive by popular demand
>>97917886Every time I see this image, in the second panel my brain instinctively thinks the guy has the huge pregnant belly and tits, for some reason. Even though I've seen this image a hundred times.
>>97922943>It is a universe you can live in today, if you dare - for this is a dark and terrible era where you will find little comfort or hopeAnon, the very first page of the Rogue Trader rulebook from 1987 explicitly tells you that the grimdark future of the 41st millennium is not comfy.
>>97923064>for this is a dark and terrible era where you will find little comfort or hopeExcept with the caste-based socialist-lite bluemangroup that definitely doesn't want to sterilize you or make you quietly disappear, apparently.
>>97923019I think you might just be fucked in the head because the color and linework very clearly make it apparent that's his wife.
>>97923076Anon, they’re a straight up orthodox fascist state, that is the grimdark aspect of them. In 40k the nicest place to live is a textbook fascist empire.
>>97923276Not by Funny Italian Man's definition, but that's splitting hairs. Now where's my fuckin' Farsight Enclave Gue'vasa Crisis Suits
>>97922280
>>97923276>tfw no state-mandated ayyy wife to leak all your secrets to the Tau CIA
So when was it decided that Tau would be the giga titty porn faction?
Do female humans get male Tau hubbys?
>>97923339They'd be shorter than them, and thus unwanted.
>>97923336>faction about esoteric balance and harmony>gets porn that is two extremes: tiny flat cute girls and tiddy monster mommiesBalance achieved.
>>979233362019 when Krekk0v made his Tau OC he never draws anymore.
>>97923336>So when was it decided that Tau would be the giga titty porn faction?
>>97922344Sauce?
>>97923362>descended from bovineAre they edible?
We need more Tau submitting to Humans.
>>97923380I mean, are YOU?
>>97923385>"My Lord, can we pick up Cow Tau girls?">"NO, we have cow girls at home."
>>97923431Tyranid and Space Marines think so.
>>97923455All shall become Moos...
>>97916754>>97916933>>97917096Why do tourists like to lie? Hey guys. There are many MANY worlds in the Imperium with varying degrees of life. A LOT OF WORLDS are pretty good living which is why you get people who are naturally loyal to the Imperium. The only time we see humans turning to the Greater Good is when they are from shit worlds OR their Governor is a piece of shit, which is ofc. But the majority of humanity lives on civilized world. Remember. tourists. Most worlds under ARE NOT hive/factories/feral worlds. Believe it or not, most worlds in the Imperium don't oppress their populations.
>>97923478Joke's on you. This is approved by the Emperor.
>>97923455You call those milkers? You'll never defeat the Tau.
>>97923521>But the majority of humanity lives on civilized world.This is not true.The majority of WORLDS are civilized worlds, but the majority of HUMANS live on Hive Worlds. Population density is a bitch.
>>97923557Ok then we just take them. For the Emperor!
>>97923563It is, but there are still a lot of Loyal people on Hive worlds. Like this belief that everyone, even the lower classes on a Hive world, is itching to turn traitor is ridiculous.
>>97923534>Joke's on you. This is approved by the Emperor.Then all is right with the Galaxy!
>>97923616The Imperium’s reach doesn’t extend that far. Most people just want to survive the day to day, they aren’t thinking about the Imperium, they’re thinking about if they’ll have enough food and shelter to survive. I mean hell, the entire reason the Imperium had the commissars is because most of their soldiers AREN’T ideologically motivated to fight to the death unless forced to at gunpoint.
>>97923563kind of like how irl the majority of humans died in prehistory despite how low populations were back then compared to now, they just pumped out so many babies when infant mortality was high
>>97923521>Most worlds are not hive worlds>Most humans live on hive worlds
>>97923641most of the light circle is so empty you could get lost for days without ever seeing another human
What I learned from this thread is that Imperiumfags will literally jump through the most psychotic mental hoops to deny the "cruelest regime imaginable" line that's literally in every single 40k piece of fiction.
>>97923693If you think Tau piss them off, try benevolent Chaos!
>>97923693the problem is you can't really point out any part where the empire in 40k is making a mistake given the context they're in, literally any change you'd make would just make things even worse, even telling them to stop doing worship rituals on their toasters would result in the toasters getting possessed by demons
>>97923641And both would fight and die for their shitty governments. Also, still not a Hives. Those would still be civilized worlds if they too the characteristics of India or China. A Hive is a highly specialized tech that can support BILLIONS in a much smaller space. Like the other anon said. All of that isn't filled. Hell you want to hear something even crazier? You can easily fix all of humanity in Texas, and the density would be like New York City.
>>97923693I learned I want to drink a gallon of Tau breastmilk straight from the tap.
>>97923712Stop the Heretek shit and start making "new" technology again. Hell, if that's too much, at least make an effort to understand how your technology actually works.The Mechanicum already has access to several fully functional STCs but they're too retarded to even realize that they are there. Just one full set of STC blueprints would markedly improve the Imperium's odds of survival.
>>97923751Pains me to know that the damn kids these days are drawing that tonka kryga OC nonstop but have more or less forgotten /our girl/ O'pai who is way older.
>>97923717Hell, Terra itself has quadrillions of people, meaning there are likely more people on Homy Terra alone than there are on every single civilized world in the Imperium combined
>>97923757Also admech have black hole guns and other absurd DAOT tech that they don't even realize they have. Not to mention how useful xenos tech would/could be.
>>97923751This pleases Slaanesh!
>>97923786You mean Tau'va.
>>97923759I mean in fairness Kino (can't believe he named her that) is pretty great.
>>97923797That too!
>>97923821my word
>>97923821
>>97923833>"Why T'au women are more popular among Gue'la men"Not hard to understand when they look like that.
>>97923833>>97923821Do Tau girls not wear underwear?
>>97923833OHHHHHHHHH HER NIPPLES ARE P U F F Y
>>97923858What's underwear?
>>97922985Most people have lived comfortably through the most despotic regimes in the world. The people who keep their heads down, do their job, raise their family, and don't ask questions are not a threat to the regime.
>>97924011Keeping your head down doesn't change the fact that the average imperial citizen is essentially a fucking serf with zero rights, no social mobility, and quality of life comparable to a fucking Dachau resident.
why cant Tau women be real?
>>97924021What does a piece of paper saying you have rights matter when the system still decides to fuck you? How much does an average person use their social mobility? What even is an "average citizen" when worlds range wildly from feral death worlds to sprawling metropolises, each rules over by a governor who is given free reign of their world in exchange for paying taxes to the Imperium? You can create an average, but that'll just result in the same skewed result as saying people in the middle ages living to 30.
>>97924036If they were, would they want to talk to you?
>>97924190He's a filthy turncloak, of course they would want to talk to him
>>97923373Unclekrees, here's the full pic >>9168141
>>97924204Catbox it for me pls
>>97924098>Rights and social mobility don't matter! You weren't going to use those anyways...holy fucking copeLife in the imperium sucks donkey dick, sorry that makes you mad.
>>97924254nta but I would be pretty content to grind in the factory and pray to Big E in my down time.
>>97924254Who are you quoting, because that's not what I said. I'm sorry people across the world living without rights and social mobility managed to have perfectly decent lives without them, no matter how horrible you consider it. Do you also think that being a woman was absolutely abysmal 24/7 rape and beatings before they were given the ability to vote?
>>97924290>Life in the imperium is amazing I love the Emperor>Um except for hive worlds, but those don't count even though they house the majority of humanity.>Agri worlds suck too? Well that's ok because there are still civilized worlds.>OK civilized worlds are North Korea tier, but North Korea isn't that bad!! You can live a good life there!! The Imperium doesn't provide worse living conditions than the Tau empire.how far will the cope go?
>>97924324>how far will the cope go?about as far as a 2018 novel retcon ala agriworlds
>>97924351>muh retconReal life industrial farms are already grimdark. Why the fuck would agriworlds be pleasant and nice?
>>97924384City folk don't understand how bad it is.Hell, most country folk don't either!
>>97924324>eternally booty blasted by the simple fact that the average people is not being murder-raped around the clock despite lacking a piece of paper that says he has rights and the ability to become person+I'm sorry someone else touched your no-no area and now you have to take it out on everyone else.
>>97924432>I love Kim Jong Un so it's not really a problem for megood goy
>>97924409>BerlinOh God.
>>97924409What am I looking at?
>>97924440Whatever helps you cope.
>>97923336Greater good brings greater boob
>>97924432>the average people is not being murder-raped around the clockSee, you don't understand why the settings dependence on Grimderp is a self-contradiction...The Circular Reasoning for why the Imperium HAS to be so horrible?BECAUSE OTHERWISE CHAOS WINS!!!1!!2Why is it so easy for literal murder-rape demons to gain control of the materium?BECAUSE THE IMPERIUM NEEDS TO BE SO HORRIBLE!You want to so badly justify your misanthropic fantasy, where obviously (you) are not the one being murder-raped but still allowed to treat your fellow man as walking sewage all the same, not realizing (you) are the reason it's the "cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable"!>>97924468How bad is Berlin's shit?>>97924518Because that's the human population equivalence of Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Total Solids of Animal waste found in that particular watershed.In total Iowa has enough livestock waste in its water to equal 134 million people.
>>97919618Holy shit. You mean to tell me the mechanicus, the guys who make literally everything for the empire, put their logo on some shit they made for an agriworld?
>>97924324Some imperiumfags are just full on denial about how dystopic the Imperium is and have to basically come up with fanfiction shit to explain how tau totally treat humans worse than the imperium does.These tourists just ignore lore that contradicts their own mental image of the imperium.
>>97923302Based. We'll welcome them with open arms, they will drain the protein out of me freely and without conflict.
>>97924665what I want to know is why you're not more insulted by the author painting every single agriworld as exactly identical factory farms that actively destroy the world's ecosystem. it begins by saying ALL AGRIWORLDS but then goes on to give a list of highly specific celestial conditions need to be met. then on top of that the imperium allegedly depletes them into deathworlds over "thousands of years." We're at about 12,000 years of war. with a constantly increasing population and a constantly dwindling number of planets this doesn't make any sense.
>>97922986Cruel ≠ regressive
>>97924694"Pauper to Rogue Trade"...Does this secondary not know how Rogue Traders work?
>>97924808That particular secondary is a culture war grifter who just views the imperium as an epitome of muh based right wing tradcath views and ignores lore that contradicts that view.
>>97924814>@gonraen is mad
>>97924799did you legitimately just imply that the imperium isn't regressive? the same imperium that has been regressing for over ten thousand years
>>97924828the emperor said trans rights
>>97924694>designated to reproduceOh nooo haha don’t give me a government mandated tau wife nooooooo
>>97919614the one in the gathering storm comic looked pretty nice but it also was technologically backward and the space marines blew it up because it fell to chaos lol
>spawn on a decent imperial world, life is fine actually and you manage to avoid the draft>planet gets exterminatused because your planetary governor was caught gooning to slaanesh hentai
I think one of the major problems with the arguments in this thread is that too many people assume humans in 40k think like modern westerners. In reality, they are more akin to the dumbest modern Russian. Every day thousands of Russian dregs are sent to inevitable deaths in assaults and they simply accept it. When given the choice between surrender and putting the barrel of their rifle in their mouth, they routinely choose the latter. They know they will face punishment if they retreat, they know the system considers them expendable. Their families back home either fatalistically accept this, are kept in the dark, and/or genuinely buy into the propaganda. That is what your average imperial citizen is like. For 10,000 years they've been conditioned to slavishly accept what ever abuse the system throws at them. People like that will look at outsiders with better quality of life (Tau) and resent them for it. They don't ask "maybe we could live like that too?", they just get mad that others are better off. The Water Caste has their work cut out for them.
>>97924980>pic
>>97924218Catbox is currently shitting the bed on my side, just go to the Warhammer thread on aco, the full version was posted there.
>>97924980It's hubris to think westerners won't start acting like this and fetishize this type of behavior
>>97924980He should have joined Chaos
>>97925378>won't start acting likewhen?>fetishize this type of behaviorwhy?
>>97925378>least schizoid muscovitehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6pARC9rkHw
>Tau thread with obvious titty>Imperiumfags shit and piss themselves >then start bringing up real world Russia shitYou are the lowest form of human existence. Gooners are more sapient than you.
>>97925591What's wrong with having purity seals on your armor?
>>97916739About as good as how the 4th Sphere Expansion turned out.
>>97925600Real world Russians are simply the closet analog to the Imperium, deal with it.
>>97925696It certainly would explain the disingenuous HFY-LARPing shitpost tourists ITT, doing everything they can to avoid actual game lore and canon in order to spread false information about the 40k setting.The Imperium was always a dark parody of a fascist dystopia fighting a losing battle, while the drunken remnants of the Soviet Union have deluded themselves it's a blueprint for their dysfunctional society:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8rETj1FOQ
>>97925787Wait, why Chinese flag?
>>97917323>>97919462I’ve come to hate GW and GW slop addicts
I'm long tired of tau cows who can barely stand, I yearn for athletic tau girls who'll make fun of me for getting winded going up 10 flights of stairs.
>>97925917You should shoot kill yourself and find one on the other side
>>97925814They were out of standard template constructs for their own flag (or had sold them to fund Krokodil combat stims)
>>97924694Does that retard even own models?
>>97917390They can, but that is not 100% the outcome. You are more likely to be shipped away separated from everyone you know and love and unable to return to your home.
>>97918299Didn't they force a big ass kroot into one of the suits in Shadowsun? So it is doable, and plausible.
>>97925917Warboss-chan gona bring da boyz and show da beakies wot's wot. We not attack blue-grotz if we'ze sees dem, only tell da 'boss
Oh damn we didnt hit image limit even with tau cow tits
Tiny Tau girls giving you hugs and kisses
>>97926251Thus is the power of Imperiumfags who can't shut the fuck up and sperg out.
>>97926317
>>97926255>Tau girlseven in death I still sleep
>>97923339they just make the women gay
>>97925917The T’au are much weaker than humans. Like, even malnourished underhivers are stronger than them outside their power armour. Hell, even in their armour, the average Guardsman mogs them in melee combat. Unless you have a serious medical condition, she ain’t gonna be stronger than you (unless she’s on drugs, there’s some crazy shit in 40k, although I don’t know if any of it works on T’au)Also, they have shitty eyesight, which is ironic given their ranged combat forte
>>97924980>People like that will look at outsiders with better quality of life (Tau) and resent them for it. They don't ask "maybe we could live like that too?", they just get mad that others are better off.Before the start of the Damocles Gulf Crusade, I was in the Tau Empire several times. I was in the Sy'l'kell and Dal'yth systems. And what irritates me about the Tau empire is that it is so beautiful and clean. I envy Tau very much and I wish they lived worse, they don't deserve such a good live, we Humans should live like them! Why is their life better? Why are their weapons of better quality than ours? Yes, they are weaker in melee, but they have the ranged weapons to end the fight before getting that close in the first place! Who gives them so much technology anyway, why don't we live like this? Who even allowed them to live so well? Who allowed them to have battlesuits? We, the Humans, should be in their place! We deserve it and they should be xenocided, there is no other option! All this cleanliness in the streets just pissed me off, I wanted to destroy something. My friend told me that they have energy weapons that don't explode in their army, can you imagine? I was issued a plasma gun in the guard and repeatedly almost died using it, and they furnished their entire army with these weapons. How this annoys me.
>>97927238>ikea sofa loangrim
