Abhuman Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Alternative rules:https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Previous Thread:>>97924269>thread question:Which subgroup deserves a new model the most? (Not full factions like Dark Mech, more like Tanith, etc.)
>TQXenos mercenaries in DEldar. We had them before, they just need a remodel.
Let Choas idols take this thread!
Have we decided on next month's theme yet? Personally I want something open ended that any faction can do like /big dudes/
>>97926554nothing confirmed yet, just keep an eye on the poal when collageanon pops around at the end of the month.
I think beastmen are cool and wish they got more attention. If I ever do a chaos army, it would be a Word Bearers warband that specializes in recruiting disenfranchised beastmen with the end goal of launching a goat jihad against the Imperium.
I know practically nothing about SoB, but I figure this is the kind of shit they get up to.
Life expectancy in the Imperium is 30 years on a good day and a well-run planet. Does this backwardness also applies to the literacy rates?
>>97926545>TQI want a squad of Felinid women for astra militarum. More abhumans in general really.
>>97926562The imperium is a big pace, so probably.
repostan my collage entryhow's yours going, anon?
>>97926571is he okay?
>>97926577 He'll walk it off.Painter's Discord link for that person who asked for it last thread:https://discord.gg/ukwWqmzK
>>97926571still in progress sadly
>>97926572My first model
>>97926571All finished upI'll probably give the base a quick rimming tomorrow
>>97926571Not for a collage but back to painting Repentias
>>97926589My second model, am I improving?
https://x.com/bromeliaworks/status/2046746183121699055?s=46
>>97926598very much so aeldari anon. your paints are much thinner nice job!
>>97926593Pic related is maximum pretend land anon..sad
>>97926611
any chances 40k will be fun again with 12th edition?
>>97926598Yeah, it's an improvement. Are you using contrast paints for the yellow and blue? It looks like it.
I finished up my first squad of battle sisters and they came out ok, the faces on a few are a bit fucked, but what should I get next? I was thinking the Sacrescants
>>97926545Has any 40k autist ever made a diorama inspired by Kris Kuksi's "mixed media assemblage" dioramas? If so can pics of it be posted, please?
>>97926629
>>97926646
>>97926639sacrecents definitely if you're planning on running Champions if Faith
>>97926566Is that true, or is that just averaged out? I'm sure there are some planets a little closer to modern day QOL aside from the tithe and whatnot, right?
>Though Librarians of many Legions possessed similar psychic might, their abilities were disciplined, carefully controlled and honed to be a tool of the Imperium. The wanton fashion in which the Thousand Sons wielded their psychic energies showed no such restraint, and the effects they achieved were far more terrifying.It's kind of funny how biased the recounting of history is in the codexes
>>97926698Space wizards are cool.Army of space wizards even cooler.
>A single model took me almost 5 hoursHoly crap, is this normal?
>>97926571>"tis but a flesh wound""You have no legs!">"tis but a scratch, don't ye worry"
>>97926719If you're just figuring out a scheme it can take a while, or if you're focusing on the details.Don't stress too much about time though, stuff like batch painting can help churn out stuff like troops.
>>97926632I put Iyanden Yellow on and Yriel Yellow after while I put Asurmen Blue on the helmet and MacCragge Blue on after.
>>97926571Halfway through highlighting mine, then got gems and some other stuff to paint too.Planning to get a load done Thursday when I have a day off
>>97926719For me yes, I am also a very very slow painter. It's ok though. More hobby bang for your buck
>>97926719It takes me 10-20 hours to paint a single marine-sized model, you're good bro
>>97926719That would be fast for me. I've come to terms with it.
>>97926545>TQHaemonculus Covens for Dark Eldar.
>>97926598Decided to update it, I don't know how to use technical paints but I like this mud effect I did.
>>97926731Okay.So I suggest that you paint the entire mini with a base coats before applying contrast. Now if speed is your goal here then you can continue just relying on the primer. However a basecoat will help smooth out the primer as white primer can get chalky.If you go with the base coat route, I recommend using pink if you are using contrast yellow, picrel. You can even attempt getting into dry brushing white on top of the pink to save time on highlighting after the contrast.But you are on the right path. Just keep at it and more importantly paint your bases
>>97926765>white primer can get chalky.That's mainly due to bad application, if you ever have issues like this when priming minis just shake the primer even more and never spray in direct sunlight so it doesn't dry out before hitting the model, also flicking motions so you don't over apply and clog up details.
>>97926545>Which subgroup deserves a new model the most?I'm answering this question exactly as it was asked - not what I want to get a new model, but what deserves it.Catachans surely.
>>97926545>Which subgroup deserves a new model the most?Salamanders
>>97926571I have both models for it done and just have to do the base now.
>>97926545i hope we get some sort of Exalted Possessed or Dark Apostle character for word bearers.
>>97926571Done with mine :)
>>97926571My GW order finally arrived so I'll probably start working on it today or tomorrow
>>97926593>That orange on the deathwatch muhreen O&tfag?
am I a trog for "priming" by just painting a model with abaddon black by hand? or is spray primer necessary
>>97926821i wouldn't call you a trog, but it sounds like you submitting yourself to a lot of unnecessary suffering and paint rub off.Would you mind posting some of your minis, i'm interested in how well you're surviving with out primer.
>>97926821Primer just makes the paint put over it stick better, not using primer makes paint rub off easier but if you are delicate you can get away with it.
i was going through the archives looking for an image and i came across the decalfag=behemond theory and it makes too much sense
>>97926840What
>>97926821Priming hand takes ages and, unless you're incredibly patient, you'll generally get an uneven coat. I got an airbrush almost exclusively to prime and base coat. I couldn't stand that shit any longer.
How the fuck have there not been leaks (even potato images) of the new boxset/rulebooks yet?
>>97926869You want leaks of marines?
>>97926571It's very close to being finished, I just don't know what else to add to it
>>97926869dumb people ask chatgpt and believe the hallucinations.smart people know that any image or pdf could be doctored by ai so they don't even bother.gw playtesters and employees that used to leak the rules are fired.
>>97926899>gw playtesters and employees that used to leak the rules are fired.i'm still mad that GW didn't do the bare minimum of sending out watermarked copies of the rules when they were working with 3rd parties to play test new rules, now we're stuck with retards that can barely play 5 games a week as their job.
>>97926869It pains me to say that this new boxset will probably be one of the worst in a long time. It says a lot when the idea of new Grots is probably the most appealing feature. New orks are good, but I haven't enjoyed many of the sculpts so far.
>>97926848gay faggot is also a gay twitter faggot.
>>97926907>It pains me to say that this new boxset will probably be one of the worst in a long timewhy?
>>97926869Leaks are fucking aids, you don't get the actual thing any sooner but you do get the wind taken out of what could otherwise have been an fun announcement, all for a shitty low res JPG.
It's coming together lads.
>>97926765So if it's not storming tomorrow, I go to GW to buy a base paint to use Yriel Yellow on. I'm already priming with White Scar, my only issue besides trying to know if I thinned the paints is being able to see any changes after putting on Yriel Yellow after I used Iyanden Yellow.
>>97926911I think he's right. Indomitus actually had a pretty good spread of minis. Leviathan was carried by terminators and the nids. Armageddon's attempted selling point is... some helmets. The nuOrk design looks like Generic Copyright Avoiding Space Green Guy a 3rd party seller would try to sell.
Why is his yellow so much brighter compared to mine? Is it because I keep dipping my brush into the contrast because I keep thinking my brush is running out?
>>97927002Can you post the vid, it looks like their base coat is much darker which is making the new layer look much brighter.
>>97927008https://youtu.be/Zvs7rG1hbAQ?si=ha11YK3B53OiFveAI think it's because he primed the model grey instead of white. Should I buy a grey base paint tomorrow.
>>97926545This abhuman is my favorite, she's so cute.>>979267195 hours is fine. I consider about 2 to be the absolute minimum I'd spend painting a normal mini. You can do it faster, it would just be getting into slopchop territory for me. 5 is decent, and 10+ is like a paint job I'd be happy with. It can change a lot depending on the model though.>>97926888AI generated base.
>>97927011I think the white primer is a better choice since it makes applying yellow much easier in the long run.If you want to darken your yellow before you apply the your layer of yriel you could try shading the mini after the contrast, maybe with something like a sepai wash, or go with a darker yellow contrast paint.you're current recipe is looking good so just tweak it and experiment with small changes first, don't stress out too much about getting it to look exactly like a tutorial.
>>97927034>you're current recipe is looking good so just tweak it and experiment with small changes firstUnfortunately I legit cannot tell the difference between Yriel Yellow and Iyanden Yellow. What's a darker yellow contrast so Yriel Yellow can stand out more?
>>97926560i find it interesting they arn't properly expanded on yet. Hell, Fabius bile has shit tons of em'
>>97927049GW would need about a thousand sons to carry that task for all that gore tzan.
>>97927043honestly i think if you're getting good results with the contrast yellow you don't need to worry too much about the yriel yellow step, but it'll will be useful to have on hand since contrast doesn't work the best over large smooth areas so you can use the yrial in place of that.If you like the colour but want more definition in the crevices I think the next thing you should look into is recess shading, like what some anons said last thread.here's a vid on that, as well as a comparison pic of the contrast yellowshttps://youtu.be/ejXlcA1Mjs4?si=Oyfl_vkdXMprJEj9&t=124
>>97926560>disenfranchised beastmenUngor kitbashed to have cultist weapons would be the best fit for this imo, with a few Fellgor in the list too.
>>97926560I wish I was able to take pestigors for my death guard, but DG has such a good model range i let the disappointment slide
Does anyone have this black and white drawing, I think it was from 80's White Dwarf, it was "What if Warhammer but SCIENCE FICTION?", with a knight shooting a stereotypical raygun. I can't seem to find it again no matter how much googling I've done
>>97927067similar boat, back when plague bearer spam was really good back in 8th i wanted to convert my own pestigors for proxies to run alongside my tzaangors, but a tourney popped up and i needed them quickly so i just got regular plague bearers, but now that there's an actually plastic pestigor kit i can't run allies anymore...
>>97927061>Iyanden over White Scar makes it look very similar to YrielSo I definitely need a either darker yellow shade/contrast or a grey base paint instead so the layer paint pops out more.
>>97927066Speaking of cultist weapons, did they really have to send the heavy stubber to legends? It's the only special weapon that Traitor Guards didn't get.
I hope thousand sons get warmachines before they get another try at infantry reinforcements.
>>97927087darker contrast/shade is cheaper and i think the better bet, personnally i really recommend applying a shade over or in the recesses of your current contrast since that colour looks really good already.
>>97927017thats flattering but my painting is too shit to pass as AI
predicting a hellbrute refresh in 11th based purely on how neglected the datasheet is across the cult legion armies>>97926560I mix in beastmen with my tzaangors to spice things up, love the models
40k needs more random dudes and aliens and random squadsBut then, GW have actually being doing that, but the combination of GW's plastic manufacturing capacity, FOMO hype/whales and release cycles means they're just not readily available.I can't just buy the Elucidian Starstriders, you can't just buy the plastic Zoat (I know, it's coming back for another limited period soon but it's literally been like 4 years since Blackstone Fortress)So they need to do it in metal lel, so miniatures can be sculpted and cast in the same week with a mention in White Dwarf like the old days. And you can buy 1 or 2 guys out of the catalogue without the need for a £100 "HQ" box
>>97927095What's that? You want more tzaangors? You got it!
>>97927125ZOAT!
>>97927128i'm fine with that
>>97927108What would you recommend as a shader?
Just included an OCR'd pdf of Crucible of Champions in the Mega
>>97927130>These were Wood Elf creatures
>>97926554FYI artist that drew this pic is woke, and has drawn this masterpiece
>>97926545sisters of silence deserve new models
>>97927143Many (are not) saying this.
>>97927141This was a parody, r-right?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97927137if you're apply over the entire model either Seraphim Sepia or Reikland Fleshshade(reddish).Agrax eathershade is always a useful shade to have since it's darker so can work as either a full shade over or yellow or just a recess shade.Nuln Oil is good, but since it's a black shade going over yellow you may only want it if you're doing a recess shade.i'd lean for eitehr Agrax or Nuln since it's useful over many colours.
>>97927149no. he drew it to "own the chuds"
Do we get to see the perspective of Angron in this book since a lot of books like to swap between characters? Or is he more akin to Godzilla or some shit?I remember asking this last night but I was so tired I don't even remember the answer. All I remember was he's not in the book much. I just wanna know if we get to view his perspective as we get to see Fulgrim's in his own book.
It's making you mad, so evidently successful.
>>97927141>wokeMaybe? That looks like something I'd draw as a shitpost to mock woke folks. I know there's such a thing as "macro-fetishism," but this picture just looks silly to me. They definitely committed to the bit. >>97927153That's an interesting effort post on their part in either case. They went out of their way to tick all the boxes.
>>97927161Speaking of books, how do some books get limited edition versions? Do they just release them along side the book or does the book have to sell well enough to garner a limited release? Because Voidscarred by Mike Brooks has one and I know damn well that shit barely sold.
>>97927148at the very least they should rework the sprues so there are either 10 models in the box, make each variant a single box without all that shit, or rework SoS datasheet and don't make them 3 separate units
>>97927162Bemused is more like it
>>9792716610 models in the box sounds wonderful. James Workshop will get right on it.
>>97927165i got the limited edition tsons codex since i had 3 friends that played the other 3 cult legions and we wanted to combine to have the chaos undivided fridge magnet.
>>97927174Did you all manage it
>>97927176yes, but we had to bully our EC's friend into getting it.
>Tarellian isn't on a separate sprueF
>>97927172then at least let us mix and match vigilators, witchseekers and prosecutors as the part of the same squad. or better yet, split that box into 3 diffrent boxes and reduce price to 45-50 bucks
Which factions are TND+DNB coded?
>>97927188Thousand Sons
>>97927188Which factions are TIT+BOOB coded?
>>97927198custodes
I like orks :D
>>97926554fuck off from this thread and stop posting guillimanxyvraine. 40k is a grimdark horror franchise.
>>97924283>Are you ready for Dark Eldar to explode in popularity after they get a massive centerpiece and a bunch of new models?Yes
>>97926911In my opinion, the miniatures are fundamentally boring. The intercessors are just intercessors but with a few new bits. The jump pack marines are a straight up downgrade in every conceivable way. The new speeder is literally going to be a model that already existed decades ago but new! The aggressors are going to be old aggressors but new gun, and the characters will be characters we already have (ancient, apothecary but new!).The ork side has a little bit more going for it, but unless it pulls some slammers, it's going to be a shit box. New plastic warlord that is meh, new ork boyz that are mid, the walker thing in the trailer looks stupid. The grots and wartakk (if they are coming back) might improve the box to be purchasable. Moreover, same characters we already have (new painboy, new wagh pole etc).Now, lets compare this to 8th, 9th and 10th edition.- 8th brought Primaris (regardless of your views) and this brought in a lot of new miniatures. Death Guard were finally fleshed out as a proper army with a large diversity of models and it's own codex.- 9th edition revamped the old Necron range which was visibly outdated, and added many new cool models and concepts (new destroyers types, canopteks, HQ types etc). Marines received lots of new unit types such as Blade Guard, Outriders, Assault Intercessors, HQs etc. Marines were arguably the weaker side of the box.- 10th edition revamped Tyranids. They got replacements for all of their old models and lots of new cool ones (Psychophage, Screamer Killer, Neurotyrant, winged prime etc). Marines got the weaker side, but still got a new dread and new terminators.The 11th edition box by comparison offers little. Yes, orks are getting a (mid by appearances) revamp of some old models, but Marines seemingly get little by comparison. Some are replacements for plastic models we already have, or models GW sought to get rid of originally. The model showcases thus far have made me enthusiastic about the box.
>97927214trying too hard
>>97927220Marines don't need more fucking units, their roster is already bloated as is. If anything it needs to be cut down.
>>97927224marine franchise
>>97924349>Wrong, you like your personally imagined concept of Eldar.>Nobody likes actual Eldar.Everybody likes actual Dark Eldar though.
>>97927227>though
>>97927227Even less people like drukhari
>>97927232only fat losers don't like drukhari
>I use though at the end of my sentences
>>97927234I do. And you will seethe impotently over it though.
>>97926571>so, what’s dis supposed to be? >well… me and the ladz was finkin’ on it… and it might be to put up your ass. >up your ass? >ya, ya, so they look like one of dem furry squig fings these beakies like… dere, w- wulps, wul->wolfs>roight, dere wolfs>huh, well, I’ll think I’ll take the beakie sholder armour, and I’ll take dis wolf fing, I could use it for Pork, love her tah deff, but she’s been crapping in my bed all at nite.
Tau is popular enough to deserve Farsight Enclaves as its own separate codex.
@235 >though
>>97927242Are eldar, tyranids, and obviously space marines of both varieties the only factions ever to have essentially their subfactions turned into proper standalone armies?
>>97927242>DG, nids and necrons in top 3Niggas will claim Edition Launch boxes have no effect on army distribution
Why do so many vidya game devs try and make 40k soundtracks (which end up getting played in stores) when NIN already gave us the perfect 40k soundtrack in 1996?
>>97927247>reddit filename
>>97927247>40k and quake unitedI kneel.
>>97927250>google image >the first choice that isn't in a webp format is from RedditMany such cases
how many rapehons have you encountered at your LGS? how many passoids?
>>97927242If they gave rules for the Eight again that'd be neat, but honestly if farsight enclaves just got their own detachment that's all they'd really need.If they made Xv8's Battleline like how they were troops back in the 6th ed supplement it'd be cool, but since their datasheet is already split up into 4 different ones it not really necessary, so maybe just increasing their OC so it'd be more like when they were ObSec.
>>97927255google tailors search results for the individual, why is it showing you images from reddit?
>>97927254The game was pretty meh but I fucking loved that trailer. The beksinski style fits 40k like a glove and it was the last hurrah we got before primaris ruined everything.
i'm going to play a game this friday. i'm running custodes against chaos
>>97927271You're gonna have to ask google about that. I've never posted on Reddit, and the few times I visit the site it's because it the top result on google for solving some kind of problem. Could it be that it's one of the most popular forums among men aged 20-40 with an image function?
>>97927250>recognizing a reddit file nameAre you a former reddit user that's overcorrecting now to try and fit in?
>>97926545Demon Furies.
>>97927273It can come back. All you need is a snub-nosed revolver and valrak's location. Figure out the rest.
>>97927275Whats your list, anon?
>>97927246Nids at least have always been a pretty popular faction (even when they were stone unplayable from 2010-2017)
>>97927234>I use however at the end of a sentence, however.
>>97927298Probably because of the DoW-babby era's starter box
>>97926888CheckedPlease give me the recipie for that glowing flamer, it looks fucking sick
>>97927242>if you want to be unique and stand out from the crowd (and not play retarded fucking mirror matches), play GSCnoted.
>>97927303you sound jaded.
Post WIPs.Trying to make a 'tribal' marine. Need some ideas of armour patterns (You can loot whatever native culture there is. Bonus points for maximum cultural appropriation).
>>97927305>ignoring death watch and imperial agents
>>97927242>eldar are popularFUCK, that means I'm gonna end up playing an eldar vs eldar match that never happens lorewise FUCK FUCK FUCK.
>>97927258>rapehonsseveral. all 6'0"+ and dress like granniesthere's a cute asian ftm too>passoidsnone that i can tell. there was one i thought that passed very well but then it turned out she was actually an ugly autistic woman with a bad fashion sense
Spiky guards
>>97927322that's not allowed, you need a codex to run a themed army
>>97927326sorry
>>97927318>Popular>4 digit player count
>>97927312This lad looks original and memorable, good job
>>97927329but then orks aren't popular too D:
>>97927322>you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
>>97927318>that never happens lorewiseIIRC Biel-Tan was so ludicrously militaristic that they fought against other Craftworlds on a few occasions.
>>97927232*Fewer
>>97927161Then go back to that thread. Theres literal links in the OP. JFC. I answered your questions and you STILL keep posting rhe same questions. You are starting to become really annoying.
>>97927332its alright, we don’t have to be popular as long as the minis are good. that’s all that matters :D and also at least we aren’t dark eldar lol
>>97927320>ftm what army does uh "he" play?
>>97927346FUCK YOU
>>97927320>there's a cute asian ftm tooif they’re still “cute” then that’s 100% a LARP. ftm can literally become your average manlet dude just by getting some supplements.
Can't wait for the new detachment point system so I can combined the new CSM vehicle detachment with the old one and run 1800 points of tanks and daemon engines.
>>97927358Sorry they'll both be worth 2-3 points
>>97927312Working on my HH army, so nothing to report at this moment.
>>97927360There's no way in fuck the new one is worth more than 1 point, it's pretty terrible.
>>97927364Well good because I'm using it to give 5++ to my 3 helbrutes and land raider
Kino
>>97926545>pedo artist
>>97927371
>>97927371>pedo poster
>>97927370Vintage dreads are the best models in the game by far
>>97927371Smelt itDealt it
Was Artel W always this expensive?
>>97927306I'm not. I'm a DoW-babby myself
psssh...nothin personnel...kid...
>>97927371>loliHoly base->goreNevermind
>>97927394That tactical rock looks great. The model, not so much
>>97926560I finished reading picrel recently after it being mentioned when the topic of felinids arise and I must say abhumans, mutants and beastmen are underutilized in 40k. I'm tired of>good human vs bad human vs chaos humanI think the problem isn't a warhammer exclusive one but rather a general drought in good writing, probably because of corporate micromanaging/design by committee
>>97926577Killed by walker, become walker
local fat NL tranny flirted with me. help.
>>97927385i dunno, but i want that new chainsaw man model.
>>97927430First, get rid of the boner
>>97926571Gonna finish the build and prime today
>>97927370Imagine>HH brings back mk4 dreads>slightly scaled up (or not)>fully posableAlso I love the seismic hammer design
>>97927430that's a new terror tactic
>>97927349halflings in blood bowl. she's the only BB player i know who isn't a turbo grog>>97927355almost certainly yeahtestosterone wrecks women rapidly and she hasn't changed visibly in a few years
>>97927430>Not flirting with 1ksons twinkngmi
Why did GW just release a detachment that is just a collection of mobility rules they removed from eldar and dark eldar for being op
>40k 12th edition drops>wargear is added back>but you're limited to 3 special/heavy weapon types for each detachment>Picked hellblasters? Plasma, that's one.>Picked eradicators? Melta, that's two.>Each faction gets one "free" weapon type>Guards get las, marines get bolt, eldar gets shuriken, etc.R8 how mad/bamboozled you'd be
>>97927477I am more than a little amused watching Guard, Orks, and Space Marines all getting a bunch of elf bullshit tricks with insanely fast threat ranges right after the elf tricks all got nerfed into the ground. Space Marines in a land raider can have a threat range 1" shorter than Wyches do in Spectacle of Spite. That's pretty whack.Faction identities become less meaningful by the day as Detachment bloat just makes factions start copying each other's homework.
>>97927477Same reason that Kroyle is 100pts.Fuck balance, the edition is ending. Got to sell new toys on impulse.
>>97927477We're at the end of the edition, nigga
>>97927483Pretty good since my faction only has three weapon types
>>97927477Because they need to get rid of all the old transports just before they release new ones.Isn't it obvious?
>>97927447Only a matter of time imo.
>>97927477I still don't understand the point of detachments.If it was simply different force org chart to balance/limit bullshit I might understand, but instead it's just special rules tacked on top of your armies.>detachment rules>stratagems>special characters abilitiesAre we MtG?
>>97927370My brother. Hopefully castraferrums get good rules in 11th. What they did to them in 10th was criminal.
>>97927507None of that has anything to do with MtG and I am baffled by this post
>>97927500I hope so. HH has been pretty silent since 3.0 dropped.
>10th ed detachments are just 7th edition formations which almost killed the game for good>but the playerbase claims they are fine and good actuallywhat causes this?
>>97927484>Faction identities become less meaningful by the day as Detachment bloat just makes factions start copying each other's homework.I do think it's funny that sisters got an exact copy of a space marine detachment that space marines don't even consider worth using, but the sisters version had to be nerfed because apparently it's too strong (but not for space marines).
>>97927507>>detachment rules>>stratagems>>special characters abilitiesNow you have to do your homework before you play, it's kind of annoying. I keep forgetting random rules because there is so much of it and in the context of a fast-ish game it's even harder to remember them.
>>97927513I think it's called "Stockholm Syndrome"
>>97927509>detachment rulescommanders>stratagemsany fucking spell, the game uses mana>special characters abilitiesmost creatures have effects, and the legendary creatures are worse
>have a second hand looted rhino that is in dire need of a new paintjob (currently painted in what looks like Croatian flag colours). Want to use it for a trukk proxy (will need to be slightly modified to be similar to trukk dimensions)>have a trukk that's half paintedI'm more keen to strip the rhino and start over again than to finish the trukk, is there something wrong with me?
>>97927519Im not having a go at you when I say this but you do not understand MTG at all to make a comparison like that
>>97927519MTG is way easier thoughbeit
>>97927483>Anon making shit up in his head and be mad about it
>>97927521Just mash them together
>>97927514Space marinee actually have a lot of bullshit Detachments that you will never see or have to worry about because Gladius (and Stormlance) is so damn good that they don't even want to play with all their toys even as Daddy keeps giving them new ones.
>>97927447I don't understand why so many people think classic dreads need to be scaled up. Is it primaris brainrot? The standard dread isn't supposed to be bigger than a Leviathan. Redemptors can work as the 40k cheap version of Leviathans since they can't make them anymore while the castraferrum should be the standard cheap version of the contemptor.
>>97927508Don't worry, their 11e rules will be legends__.
>>97927517That's exactly what I hate about card games.Card games are fun when you have two simple decks or decks you don't know yet/can't pick and you make due with what you have.The alternative is playing against bullshit combos because that's what people are rewarded and incentivised to do. Same goes for 40k now.
>>97927513>10th ed detachments are just 7th edition formationsdid you play during 7th ed? Because if you did you would know that's not even close.
>>97927513You didn't play 7th and it shows.
>>97927530Nigga I play MtG and 40k.>>97927533Easier than 10th? Not really, same ballpark.
>>97927536Well the previous owner did that with another model, theres a falcon stuck on top of a trukk. It look fuckin ridiculous and I don't know what was going through his/her head when they did it, i like a kitbash but thats two ruined models right there
>>97927513Which detachment let's admech and space Marines play with 3500 points in their 1850 point game?
I really should have subassemblied these damn grav flaps
>>97927551>her
>>97927538Because marines got scaled up. Have you seen the size difference between a 2nd ed marine and a 7th ed marine? Let alone a nuHH marine.I'm not saying it should be bigger than a levi, but if it's not adjusted it's not gonna look as good.
>>97927548I created combos back about 15-ish years ago, and people ran off with it and got shit banned.Never going back. Sticking to my custom Tribal+Commons+60decklimit(no sidedeck) balanced decks I make for people to pick one and play with me.>every deck is sub20 bucks usually>spend 160 dollars or so, people have fairies, birds, goblins, etc to have fun withThat's real MTG sir.
>>97927546I mean detachments (especially decurion style ones) were definitely part of the issue, but I agree they weren't the only/main problem the edition had
>>97927551Nigga ur among friends here nigga u can assume any practitioner of this hobby is a straight white autistic male until proven otherwise
>>97927513Nothing in 10th or 11th's detachments give you shit like free transports like in 7th.
>>97927566You're a fucking retard if you think detachments are are even close to the broken shit like formations or decurion formatiosn 7th had.
AWOO
>>97927577Gross
>>97927558Even if we take that into account, redemptors are still 1/3rd too big proportionately.
>>97927577for a british country with no wolves there's a lot of references to redheads and wolves here, which is non canonthey're blond and dark haired+wolven countries
>>97927582what do you mean non canon?
>>97927581I don't care about redemptors, they are fucking ass. I said scaled up, I didn't say how much nor "as much as redemptors". I like my boxnaughts being stumpy.
>>97927582>for a british country with no wolves there's a lot of references to redheadsRedheads are pretty damn common in Europe, and did you forget about scotland and ireland, you cretin?
>>97927583red heads are more on the line of scot/irish, and the (few) wolves were deleted before the land of four corners had crossbows>all wolves currently in england/etc are foreign wolves
>>97927582Well just like in Bri'ain there are no wolves on Fenris. ;^)
>>97927214we can have both. you can enjoy both.
>>97927585look up the history of wolves and genetics, there's no local wolves in the islands of the old empire
>>97927589Why do (tumblr) females obsess over big/strange noses (and huge lips)
>>97927568>>97927556Well whoever it is has dun goofed
>>97927592Space Wolves are based on the barbarian archetype and take inspiration not just from the vikings but also the celts, the scots, etc.Why the fuck would their hair colors be limited to literal animal wolves? What the fuck are you on about
>>97927287not funny. valrak has a family.
>>97927273>before primarisActually there are primaris in DoW3
>>97927214>40k is a grimdark horror franchiseWell then what sort of stories should Yvraine be getting instead then?
>>97927521>currently painted in what looks like Croatian flag colourscould you post that? sounds very cool>>97927551>herthere’s like a 0.001% chance it was made by a girl.
>>97927600>arrgh mi'laddie>we have wolves among usNo, you don't.
>>97927616Actual schizo behavior
>>97927594Its just an aesthetic choice. I think Elzunix art looks nice tho I only look at their SFW stuff
>>97927604
What do you guys when you roll snakes eyes?Personally, I hit that high.
>>97927624>what do you guys whenwhat do you guys what?
>>97927632*what do you guys do when*I was hoping no one would notice.
>>97927637>Prayer of the day:>++ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. ++
>>97927624>snakes eyes>hit that highI hate you for cursing me to understanding that reference
>>97927610Yvraine gets captured by a radical Inquisitor who surgically dismembers her and depirves her of her senses before taking her back to Terra with the intent to feed her to the Emperor, believing it will have the same effect on him as the miracle on Guilliman.The inquisitor actually succeeds in getting her into place, but when the daily 'feeding' begins Ynnead is immediatelly subsumed by the Emperor to no effect, and Yvraine is left alone trapped in her limbless, sightless, and deaf body for the scant few moments it takes for the process to burn her soul away into oblivion. In the end her only solace is that her death is final, rather than the endless torment that would have awaited her with Slaanesh.
>>97927645Which is why I have faith
>>97927610stories about how she's running a death cult whose failure to procure the macguffin croneswords likely means that the next best solution (and the reason why Eldrad, Yriel etc have abandoned the Ynnari) is to start killing as many eldar as possible to empower Ynnead and fulfill the original prophecy, actively fighting for the Eldar's extinction in the vague hopes that it'll kill Slaanesh and ensure that the eldar can reincarnate again somehow. Have Yvraine partake in horrific sacrificial rituals against other eldar and maybe even humans, misinterpreting Eldrad's "the fates of humanity and the eldar are intertwined" prophecy as "cool, maybe we should sacrifice billions of humans to Ynnead since that's basically worth a single eldar life in our view." Whole worlds sacrificed. A terrifying fusion of Craftworld Eldar and Dark Eldar into a death cult led by a crazy witch who is cutting ties with everyone around her in the name of a vague and nebulous prophecy revolving around death.
>>97927647I wrote >>97927656 and your shit sounds retarded, bro. The setting's about entropy, not rape.
>>97927650
People can't even write about grimness of life, when 40k needs grimness of the soul and mind.
>>97927460>>97927320my gut instinct is that women who decide to go ftm or nonbinary are the ones that don't feel feminine enough for some arbitration reason (usually media exposure) and decide to just opt out that and they usually have autism
>>97927658>rapeNo rape is involved, just ritualistic sacrifice.
>>97927665nta but pretty much this. My experience is anecdotal, but it's been exactly that with the exception of attention seekers (who would be anything else if that was trendy instead)
>>97927666Well it's better to throw eldar a bone and have the nihilistic death cult be a nihilistic death cult instead of "okay so the ynnari are getting squatted so we can power boost the emperor lmao" that's just more HFY wank that's ruined the setting enough already
>>97927659>integrityYeah, sure
>>97927420So whats the plot of pic related and how it relates to 40k>Good abhuman vs bad abhumanI totally agree with you, mutants and abhumans are like the main bad guy and enemy for most imperial citizens. Forget nid hive fleets, ork WAAGHs, expanding Tau, deldar raids and all other xenos, or the threat of chaos and daemons. To the average imperial on a 'peaceful' world its the abhuman and mutant they fear. I can see the PDF (remember them? God knows GW don't most of the time) having all their *big* wars being putting down mutie and abhuman rebellions and uprisings. With support from the general population despite all they want is to be treated as equals
>>97926571Not even anchor post time and we already have like 10+ finished space wolf getting rekt entries, nice
>>97927674>"okay so the ynnari are getting squatted so we can power boost the emperor lmao"See that's the really grim part, it doesn't actually change anything.And who gives a fuck about Ynnari being a death cult? Their book series already flopped and got cancelled because nobody cared.It's not like giving the Eldar a plot will actually do much.
>>97927151Drukhari-Night Lord alliance now.
>>97927681>And who gives a fuck about Ynnari being a death cult? Me, I want to see them RAZE WORLDS and TEAR APART their vague alliance with Guilliman. I want to see humans and eldar alike sacrificed in grisly mass murder rituals to empower a death god that is unlikely to actually save anyone, let alone stop Slaanesh. I want to see whole worlds reduced to Beksiński hellscapes, shrines to Ynnead, skulls bedecking the ancient eldar death worshippers who brought doom to its people. I want to see an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
>>97927690Chaos already does that, Eldar need not apply.
>>97927584Still don't think castraferrums need a rescale. Both them and helbrutes work well with the new infantry scale.
>>97926545Do all Space Marines have hidden potential, or only some?For example, is Ragnar Blackman special because he's a Space Marine, or is he special because he's Ragnar?
>>97927694
>>97927622
>>97927679>plotProtagonist is amnesic, wakes up in a caged hospital room, shit hits the fan as he and female interest get attacked by doberman-man-thing, learns that he's part of the same project that turned a dozen willing participants into animal-hybrids.I won't go into more details because the story is about mystery, discovery, life, etc. Lots of action, gore and typical japanese shenanigans.Character designs are great, it's a manga so you also get creator's notes which I found really interesting.On a side note, while in the west we're sort of limited to furries, which are themselves extremely limited as 99.9% of people use them as "humans but they look different"/personas, but in Japan/China/Korea, etc. they are much more experimentative with the idea of human/animal characters. Very often they'll tackle things like>the soul>the nature of man>the universe>nature>destinywhile in the west animals are gonna be about>mu racism and stereotypes.In short: I find that asian stories are more universal and human, while western stories all serve the author's personal (social) gains.
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>>97927697Cringe
>>97927697He's special because he's a Blackman.
>>97927693I do like them being small, but I think now they're too small. Agree to disagree>>97927697Special because he's Ragnar.
>>97927697what a retarded question
>>97926571Commissar (Krieg kit but tank commander head)
>>97927703>Commissar graves>half her face is cut offTell me this is real.Also her command squad is so fucking boring it's crazy, it's the same cadian helmet and shoulder pads, with the designated commissar breastplate design (same as the krieg junior commissar, for instance). They look like a cheap 90s movie costume and not in an endearing way.
>>97927680i think about half the people who do models for the collage don't post wips before the deadline so it's possible this will be the biggest collage ever
>>97927691Eldar should do it, too! The more the merrier! >Chaos turns worlds into daemonic hellscapes>Orks turn worlds into endless shrines of war after slaughtering everyone there and/or reducing those who can't fight into livestock>Tyranids and Leagues of Votann strip down worlds to the bare rock for consumption purposes>Necrons kill and/or enslave everyone and turn worlds into monuments to themselves, mindless hordes of automatons ruled over by insane, degenerated elites>The Tau turn those who comply with their conquest into smiling, complacent thralls while slowly replacing them, and those who resist are quietly brutalized behind closed doors for the Greater Good. (this is admittedly the least nightmarish fate)>Eldar...uh...well, sometimes the evil ones kidnap and torture a bunch of people, but the rest just...uh...well I guess they kill a few people then fuck off?eldar stand out here in a bad way
>>97927708>Special because he's Ragnar.Agreed
>>97927697For every Ragnar there are a dozen Space Marines who get their dome piece blown off the moment they step off the drop pod.
>>97927723I hate this kind of haircut paired with a beard
>>97927724Good. Marines should always die in masse to keep the setting Grimdark.
>>97927697Saying that every Space Wolf is a potential Ragnar and should be treated as such is like saying every US Marine is John Basilone. It's just not true. >>97927724 speaks truth.
>>97927721Y'know you're right on the cusp of realizing that Eldar are entirely unnecessary and generally unfitting to the setting, but it feels like you're holding yourself back.
>>97927697Some Marines are definitely more powerful than others. Able to resist Warp energy more than others and resist fear or temptation and some are also much stronger than others. Ragnar is an exceptional example of a Marine.
>>97927735>Kicking put most popular range after MarinesTrying too hard
>>97927743They aren't popoluar for their lore, anon. Those players will just find a new army to use.
>entirely unnecessary and generally unfitting to the settingUnfitting to the setting, Starscream? This is bad bait!
>>97927733This but unironically. You fix this by spacing battles and/or having most use of marines be low stakes for them, like escort of diplomats/nobles or quelling fledging rebellions.
>>97927748Nta but the only eldar players I know either love the models or the fluff.>loreI hate that word
>>97927721They terraforming planets to their own purposes (by making a maiden worlds for their repopulation)
>>97927748You are correct for once in your secondary life, people like them for their models like all sane people in this hobby. Lore and fluff literally don't matter, it's only there to make you buy more plastic toy soldiers and you should come up with your own anyway
>>97927758Why James hates Dark Eldar so much? Is for the general theme of the faction?
>>97927760>>97927766>Erm akshully people LIKE the spandex wearing power ranger elves!Lol no. People play Eldar because they're easy and frequently overpowered.
>>97927766I like World Eaters lore anon
>>97927775trying too hard buddy, go back to dawn of war or tww, whichever you're playing right now
>>97927562>Tribal+Commons+60decklimit(no sidedeck)Interesting.
>>97927775I think you're just a fag who only plays to win
>>97927777QUADS OF TRUTH
/40kg/, hear me! I am Araghast The Pillager! Master of Hounds, the Lash of the Black Legion! You, and ALL your kind are cowards! Lowly lickspittles! You must be emulating that pile of bones you call an Emperor! You are as dead and as useless as him! I am destroying your threads, /40kg/, yet you do nothing! I see your precious baitposting, hanging in orbit above my post! I am here! FACE ME, IF YOU DARE!
>>97927783I balance the decks in testing so there's no bullshit. Most complicated one is the fairies>I got a few commons before they went to 20-70 dollars for pennies
>>97927766this is the most secondary post i have read in all my life
>>97927772Do not mistake incompetence for malevolence. Their main mistake is viewing both the Eldar factions as one play base the same way that they view marines as one big player base. That's how you get Ynnari debacle. That's how you get Eldar languishing in editions DE got stuff while DE is left languishing in editions Eldar got stuff. Corsairs are a "all Elf Factions release" to them even though they're actually only close to usable in Eldar.
Rolled 3, 3, 1, 2 = 9 (4d6)>>97927786Woe, Aspect of Murder Glaivetarch upon ye.Hitting on 2+.
>>97927796Ynnari truly was a fucking fiasco lf biblical proportions
Rolled 3, 5, 5 = 13 (3d6)>>97927799Wounding on 3+
Rolled 4, 4, 2 = 10 (3d6)>>97927808Saving on 4++Two failed saves is a dead Araghast
>>97927786Is that an... Infantry tag?Time for the 5 hits ws2 sustained rerolling anti infantry 2+ dev wounds for d3 damage each
>Tasukete Russ-sam-ACK
>>97927814Damn, the bastard lives with 3 wounds.
>>97927786++ Commander, I have intercepted the enemy transmission. My auspex indicates this is likely a trap, Commander, I recommend being mindful of being baited by the enemy. The coordinates are now being relayed to your tactial display. I leave the decision to you, Commander. For the Chapter. Martellus out. ++
>>97927646>understandingLmaoHave you never rolled double 1's, otherwise known as "snake eyes"?
>>97927701>You play black space marines>I play orks>our game is black on black crime
>>97927819My god this looks terrible, first time modeler perhaps?
Rolled 2, 5, 4 = 11 (3d6)>>97927814Araghast rolls his saves.
>>97926545Got my dirty GSC claws on this kit recently. Gonna use the robot manservant guy as a benefictus with his big brain pod, but I'm not sure how I want to use the Inquisitor. I really like the sculpt, so maybe I'll just have him be a Primus or something with little to no alterations. Servoskull will probably find its way stuck to a Goliath or something.Thoughts?
>>97927838I did the further rolling out of the thread to avoid too much spam. Breakdown;>Autarch deals 3 damage on first swing as Araghast saves 2/3 wounds>Araghast seings six times with an Exalted Weapon, lands all hits but drops two Wounds as it's a 3+. Autarch saves 3/4 with the 4++, rolling 2, 4, 4, and 6. Autarch survives with 2 wounds.>Autarch swings back, failing one Hit and one Wound but Araghast fails his two 4++ saves with two 2s.
>>97927804Yeah, and Yvraine is Moses still wandering in the desert until everyone she leads dies
>>97927819When the mongol will come back?
>>97927819>when you shart but the tail buttplug is still in
>>97927832isn't that the dude with the most beautifully painted 2nd edition orks? you can be assblasted that everyone is taking the piss outta you but nobody is buying the inane, 'you don't know the hobby' posts
>>97927868Can we see a model of yours anon?
>>97927775
>>97927875>this is shit>actually he's a good painter>urrrmmm, post modelsnta but holy spaz
>>97927507The point is always to sell models.Release transport playstyle detachment = sell more transports. It's simple.
>>97927832Lmao purpleanon has been in the hobby longer than you've been alive
>>97927880That’s what I thought, stay in your lane when modelers are speaking to each other secondary.
>>97927876Do Space Wolves fag really?
>>97927884Yeah >release new models >give then powerful rules>sell models>adjust rules
>>97927884Yes & true, but I didn't mean "point" as in "why is GW doing this", because the answer is always "the board", I meant it as "what are the positives of that system". A rethorical question really.
When are we going to get some Tau mecha that are corrupted by Khorne? I want some melee mecha action
>>97927894Except the time when the rules are adjusted before the models hit the shelves #9thedLoVCodex
>>9792790523rd edition.
>>97927891At least 1
>>97927905>Chaos corrupted XenosSorry never ever
>>97927611I can't seem to find it on my phone, ill find it when I get home. And yeah it's almost certainly a man
>gw brings back all the primarchs for model saleswhat the fuck do they do after that?
>>97927905Just convert it
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>>97927680It's empowered all of us. Granted I've wanted to do my conversion for a long time it was just an excuse for me to do it. No idea if what I made is any good in game ill still give it a try
>>97927919Kill all of them again :^)
>>97927919You bring back the Emperor and give the Chaos Gods models
>>97927562>Tribal Uh, ackshually sweaty, it's typal now. We wouldn't want to offend the tribals.
>>97927832He's cutting up old minis retardo, they're not even primed for painting yet.
>>97927919Primaris primarchs
>>97927919the emperor himself
From now on ill refer to anyone who plays this game as a he, for some reason it seemed to have ruffled some feathers thinking that a bird may have owned these models before me
>>97927934The Primarchs do the Emperor??
>>97927919>afterAs far as we're aware they're already gonna re-release primarchs, gully is gonna get a new model.What's the next thing after primarchs that are gonna make cows & whales go>Omg it's happening *pog*Anything from the>LOOOOOOOOOOOOOREthat we haven't seen before.Also, maybe plastic titans
>>97927919The Age of the Emperor time will begin
>>97927928>>97927934Does the emperor still have rules for HH?
>>97927939>plastic titansi have this dream where GW outsources these to bandaii don't trust james with them
>>97927919Don't worry about it, you won't be able to afford any primarch models after paying to fill up your car soon.
>>97927932Im sewing seeds of doubt in his mind so he fails you idiot
>>97927950In a not so distant future, the stars will align like so:>Some autist will scan/remake titans in blender/zbrush>Plastic 3D printing (or a better material) will be better than resin printingAnd you will have exactly what you're asking for, yet even better.
>>97927890Jeez decal bro is on a warpath
>>97927919Update all the modelsAlso the Emperor
>>97927969Im not taking any prisoners this month
So, Grots finna be announced on Monday. What be the chances they finna be in groups of 20?
>>97927969and its about as effective as the orange turd's current ongoing grand debacle
>>97927919>>gw brings back all the primarchs for model salesthey only brought back 2 loyalists in 10 yearsYou're not going to see all primarchs brought back
>>97927975neither are all the anons painting collage entries, total furfag annihilation
>>97927993Nobody cares about the peanut gallery
>>97927986Depends what you are asking for. If you mean that the box will have 20 of them pretty high. If you mean that the kit will have 20 individual models instead of being 10x2 then low chances.
>>97927999>going on the warpath over something nobody cares aboutInteresting.
>>97927986It would be good if we got a separate data sheet in case there is more than one loadout, im assuming its just a model refresh but i think grots with different weapons could be fun
>>97928000You don't think the guy wishing death on people every thread would be a better subject for a study like that?
>>97927964kys fecalmutant
All of this shitposting makes me wanna do another collage entry
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>>97927999>>97928000I am really looking forward to your absolute fucking autistic breakdown when the collage ends up with 30+ entries, maybe that will finally be enough to get you rangebanned
>>97928018I deleted my post because I agree it was in poor taste but these people spam “kys” everyday so I think a study would be warranted.
>>97927964Lmao the only one weak enough to be affected like that by what randoms here says is you. Kinda like how being banned from the collage made you stop painting for 9 months
Tell me, Eldar fans;Would you accept being a more important faction with more dedicated and in-depth showings (including more wins in large-scale conflicts) if it meant the Eldar also had to be more allied with the Imperium?
>>97927919Get this, invent something new! I kinoiw actually adding something brand new to the setting and not building off something mentioned in passing and fleshing it out. Some new creativity, not taking from great influential sci-fi but becoming and creating great and influentinal sci-fi.Or just go ideas mining in other IP again. There's not many good ones that have great stuff worth taking, maybe Not!Phyrexians as a mechnical eugencis plague connected to Vashtorr or some rival to him.Or Not!Eldrazi for some truly eldtrich and alien enemies. 40k doesn't have alien interdimesional enemies, daemons and the Warp are literally emotions and have been heavily understood cataloged since 40k began so don't have the same kind of feeling of alieness as they do.
>>97928043We'll get a shitload due to the crucible characters as well, not sure if we can do both or not but its going to be a big one, unless collage anon makes separate collages for each category
>>97928049They tried that and it failed so spectacularly they memory holed the faction, made their end goal fundamentally unattainable, and cancelled their book series half way through
Nazdreg, more like Nazdrip.This dude fucks.
>>97927986I’m hopeful because they’re nostalgia baiting 2nd edition, and that box was packed to the brim with grots, but at the same time I think 20 boyz is pretty certain, and so having 20 grots on top of that with all the other characters and vehicles, the value might be too unbalanced for the ork side.
>>97928048Glad you think its all just a big joke
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ubr2cptv/zoom-across-armageddon-with-new-space-marine-detachments/
>>97928065>Posting your hype teaser article after you already released the rules in fullA questionable strategy, to be sure
>>97928056The Ynnari were never actually allied with Guilliman that much. He called them a single time in a short drama to go muck about and steal a Nurgle artifact that was affecting Ultramar, which they admittedly did succeed at stealing.
>>97928057We still need nazdreg back, along with the stormboyz named character and mad dok groksnik. No idea if badrukk will make a come back
>>97928059I think he has some sort of developmental problem. Besides autism I mean.
Imagine
>>97928059>Is the autarch a crucible character or something?No, it's an Autarch with a Star Glaive and the Aspect of Murder enhancement from Aspect Host.She swings 4 times, hitting on 2+ at Strength 6 with -3 AP and 4 damage. The enhancement also gives her Precision, which doesn't matter so much in this case.Araghast is being run as a typical Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor with an Exalted Weapon.Oddly enough I actually did the math a little wrong since I forgot that Terminator Lords halve incoming, not just reduce it by 1, but the outcome ended up the same since the Autarch still did 2 damage a swing.Technically a Banshee Blade AoM Autarch would actually have worked better, since it would get an extra attack and AoM would keep the damage profile at 2.
>>97928090oh absolutely, his behavior is not remotely close to what's considered acceptable. Even in this shithole which is honestly quite an achievement.
>>97927758Marines should be the power armor wearing one and IG should be the pure HFY guy in a suit with nothing but his skills
>>97928108youre the most obnoxious sperg I've ever seen on 4chan period, you deserve every little bit of it
>>97928059sallyfag is happily married and confident in himself. decalfag is forever alone, and deeply insecure. that’s like a telling a dude in a wheelchair to run a race because others can do it.
>>97928116Nah, marines are Bigger Batman now. And Tony Stark is just a normal human in an armored transport loaded up with tank weapons.
>>97928127You have the right to "self defense" just like everyone has the right to call you a sperg and bully you
>>97927919You'll get the primarch equivalent of the Goffs, the Bad Moons, Evil Sunz, Deathskulls, Snakebites, Blood Axes.Then, Isha and Cegorach are gonna get Avatars.Then, Solar Macharius is coming back, along with the other Lords. Lord Obscurus, Lord Ultima, Lord Tempestus, Lord Pacificus.Then you're going to get some seventh-sphere expansion splinter Ethreals forming their own enclaves.Might get more Ctan.Norn Queens, Heirodules, and Heirophant models.No, Vect will still not be back.
>>97928150>Might get more C’tan Don’t make me horny this early in the morning king
>>97928145I am siding with nobody. I am just stating that if you want people to not hurt your feelings with words then go to Reddit.
>>97928145>shit stirring nomodelsThe ones who are posting their models that include dead Space Wolves?
>>97927950>Perfect Grade Warlord TitanINTO MY VEINSWill settle for HG 1/144 Titans.
>>97928153I mean, they still have to make new Deceiver
>>97927919You start killing them or making them disappear again
>>97928130Tony hasn't been a normal human since he got Extremised over 20 years ago.
>Make 11th Edition 'less lethal' by giving models in cover some protection from long range shooting>Before it even begins, give multiple factions rules that let their vehicles move faster and shoot after advancingLmao time for more vehicles
>wazdakka is going to be 145 AUD>one hundred and forty five kangaroo coal republic pesosShits fucked brehs, ive never paid anything close to that for one model before. The most I've paid is 90 bucks for a battlewagon
>>97928173And vehicles that can move through fuckin walls. I tell ya hwhat, that fight on death stratagem is going to get a workout
>>97928150>No, Vect will still not be back.lol
>>97928128>confident in himself. I dunno, he seems pretty desperate for validation from what I’ve seen.
>>97928173>Make 10th edition "less lethal" by tuning down rerolls and mortal wounds>Before it even begins give marines a rule for full rerolls against 1-2 targets a turn and eldar a rule for 1-6 d6 mortal wounds a turnA tale as old as time
>mutant got murked AGAINKWAB
Post model
>>97928192Man that's a clean white, also a very clean gold. What's your method for both?
>>97928187lmao because he posts models? Or do you have a different schizo theory?
>>97928205>heStop talking in third person, mutie
>>97928197>implying that's his model
>>97928205More the way he always says something self deprecating like he’s fishing for a compliment.
>>97928215I guess I'm a bit optimistic, we do have some great painters here
Reposting this in hopes that it'll get continued in my absence. 4chan is now so shitty a site to post on that I can't be bothered to anymore, but I'd like to keep the brown elf paint guide in the air for the slim chance that it gets completed by others.
>>97926809That was the easter egg I was going for, think I got pretty close to his orange with my mixing
New Munitorum Field Manual dropped.Hypogriff is 70 points and can be taken in units of 1 or 2.Centaur half track is 85 points, the same as the Chimera
>>97928225>Eldar player bitching and moaning Kwab
>>97928230stop ban evading
>>97928230Do you like space wolves by chance
>>97928225If you aren't opposed to using discord unironically join the 40kg channel, it's pretty comfy most of the time
>>97928225And nobody will miss you, goodbye.
Classic /40kg/
>>97928242That'd be (You), decalnigger. Constant bans confirm that
>>97928230Necrons, actually.I remember it taking forever to even attempt to post a few days ago, though that seems to have been fixed, but the new captcha is total shit.If I can get back to the old ones I'll probably start trolling through these threads again.
>>97928242Wrong
>>97928230Hey what do you think about this image?
>>9792822970 points? Not bad. I'll grab 4
>>97928254I asked about “Decalfag” the other day and even the AI knows about him.
RED TERROR DATA SHEET AND PRE ORDER WHEN?
Anyone got any recommendations for painting glasses? Wouldn't mind getting a decent pair this time
Why does GW feel the pathological need to fuck up the rules with weird MTG "GOTCHA" rules like "lol this detachment lets you (insert bullshit here)" instead of just letting the profiles stand on their own without any of that other nonsense and balancing the game around that
>no fucking 11th rules previewwhy the fuck did they stop? just to shill these broken ass end of edition models and detachments?FUCK YOU GW also fuck you even harder for giving votann the shitty back in transport strat while dorks and memereens got the broken ones
I have almost no motivation to do my collage project, bros.
>>97928289The main point of the rules is to sell models
>>97928289you can learn every army in the game's datasheets and still get raped because your opponent can go "AHA, MY DETACHMENT ALLOWS ME TO SPEND 1CP TO FUCKING IGNORE THAT RULE OR ALLOW X UNIT TO INSTANTLY KILL YOU WHEN NORMALLY IT WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THAT"my guess is that, considering this is the same sort of shit that goes on in the TCG space, GW hired a bunch of TCG fags to write rules for a miniature wargame and/or the GW rules designers like Robin Cruddace got into TCG and inserted that faggotry into 40k
>>97928295Its called having a conscience anon
Which 40k model has the best feet?
>>97928306Toebliterators
>>97928306Yvraine, and by a long shot
>>97928275I don't know why but your comment about the red terror made me realised that the Tyranids don't have any hydra like or multiheaded monsters. I dunno could a two headed Tyranid organism work while respecting the design rules? Would it look silly?
>>97928304>being a complete crybully over the suggestion of someone painting for the collageI'm motivated now, thanks.
>>97928302>"AHA, MY DETACHMENT ALLOWS ME TO SPEND 1CP TO FUCKING IGNORE THAT RULE OR ALLOW X UNIT TO INSTANTLY KILL YOU WHEN NORMALLY IT WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THAT"fundamental shift that has occurred since 8th edition that has transformed 40k from a wargame that simulates battles to a weird video game in tabletop form with MOBA abilities and GOTCHA shit. 11th edition marketing is like "we're putting the narrative focus back at the forefront" and still has this moba ability spam shit that has no basis in the fiction and makes zero sense from an in-universe viewpoint because they're video game abilities
>>97928315>I dunno could a two headed Tyranid organism work while respecting the design rules? Would it look silly?We would have to work with symbiotic biomorphs attached to the nid that just happen to have mouths like his actual head for something like thatBasically a nid forgefiend
>>97928332Erm actually they write fluff blurbs for the stratagems
>>97927919>Phoenix Princes get buffed to primarch level>Tau get their own primarchs>Tyranids get a Hive Primarch after they eat Khan>Dorn defects to the Leagues of Votann with one of the restored forgotten primarchs after Guilliman says he can't rebuild Cadia>Fabius Bile raids Trazyn's museum and steals the Sensei to turn them into Chaos Primarchs>Titus is given the Primaris Segunda Primarchaeus to become a primarch >The Orks realize Yarrick is a primarch
Whenever I fart, a small amount of liquid is released. Armies for this feel?
>>97928381Wolves.
>>97928381space wolves, blood angels, imperial knights and necrons
Why are some people here so fucking demented and obsessive?
>>97928400Why aren't you?
>>97928400
>being 28 and being into 40k for 15 years but never buying any models because I haven't been able to afford them until now despite reading the rules every edition and watching batreps, painting videos etc for 15 yearsso it's too late for me, right? I'm too old to enter the hobby proper, right?
>>97927271Because it's one of the most popular websites in the world? That's like asking why youtube or facebook show up when you search for things.
How does it work in this situation, does every attack determined by D6 deals the same amount of damage, or do I roll D3 for each of them?
>>97928357>Phoenix Princes get buffed to primarch levelShould only have Avatar of Khaine/Ynnead/Cegorach at Primarch level>Tau get their own primarchsThey should have a couple of super experimental armored suits that kill their pilots but give them insane reflexes and battle prowess using something special about the Tau themselves like having to download them into an engram chip so their physical body dies.>Tyranids get a Hive Primarch after they eat KhanJust give them a couple big named Norn-likes built specifically to learn new adaptations from hunting down heroes and battling them and then copying their traits>Dorn defects to the Leagues of Votann with one of the restored forgotten primarchs after Guilliman says he can't rebuild CadiaYou could easily just give them one of the original men of iron who lead the original rebellion against the Imperium before becoming an ancestor core >Fabius Bile raids Trazyn's museum and steals the Sensei to turn them into Chaos PrimarchsFabius has Alpha Primus, Cawl's experimental new Primarch that he can use as a baseline for his new Adam>Titus is given the Primaris Segunda Primarchaeus to become a primarchTitus will be Chapter Master of the Ultramarines. Calgar is going to get promoted to some other role to free up Gulliman.>The Orks realize Yarrick is a primarchYarrick on his personal Baneblade is basically a Primarch mechanically.
>>97928411you roll damage separately for each wound
>>97928417Sounds like it makes allocating damage needlessly complicated
>>97928408Dude some of us are approaching 40s in here home skillet
What do you guys do for misted blood? I'd like to just whip out the airbrush for it, but I haven't seen an ink that I like for that purpose and I heard that blood technical paint through an airbrush is murder.
>>97928302>>97928332this is giving me D&D4E vibes with the videogame aura abilities
>>97928408yes, most new players are in their teens or early 20's. People in their late 20's and onwards play historical games. Go play those.
>>9792840828 is late teen
>>97928422the game has been dumbed down to the point where it's attracting mass appeal, there is nothing remotely complicated about it
>>97928446Agreed, the rules are more dense than complicated
>>97928450You're more dense than complicated.
>>97928429>approaching45 here. my first 40k models was a box of 6 genestealers and a box of 6 termagants in 199...6?
>>97928454
>>97928454savage
What's so bad about Combat Patrol? Why is it so universally despised while Spearhead gets all the praise whenever someone mentions it? What is so different between these two?
First army since forever, Eldar 1000pts, thoughts?Aspect Host Autarch (85pts): WarlordFarseer (70pts)10x Guardian Defenders + bright lance(100pts) 5x Fire Dragons (120pts)5x Howling Banshees (95pts)5x Rangers (55pts)5x Warp Spiders (105pts)3x Shining Spears (110pts)Falcon (130pts) Lance/CannonFalcon (130pts) Lance/Cannon
>>97928469Spearhead is played by the AoS clientele, so they have no problems with fixed loadouts and zero army building, whereas true 40k chuds will claim that these are integral parts of the hobby
>>97928459stop ban evading
What's considered the LD value of this unit (sergeant has 6+)?
>>97928481AoS spearhead is actually good to play unlike combat patrol.
I have something like 400 tactical marines that I have collected over the years for dirt cheap over the years. Are they going to be any good in 11th so I finally won't feel like I'm crippling myself if I use them?
>>97928491Does it have army building?
>>97928243I unironically agree with the 1st guy. You don't have to play a game to know if it'll be dogshit.After you've played a game for long enough time, no matter if it's a video game or even tabletop, you can easily start figuring shit out even in games you haven't played just by glancing at it or reading the rules.
>>97928492It will probably be impossible to run 400 tactical marines in 11th
>>97928501The point of both is to play with preconstructed decks.
>>97928501You have multiple spearheads per army.
>>97928490The Sergeant gets to lead.
>>97928524>preconstructed decksDoesn't sound very Warhammer to me, my nigga.
>>97928492>400 tac marinesYou could make the most epic corpse pile of space wolves. Thats like almost half the chapter!
>>97928542Being obtuse neither, yet here you are.
>>97928549>obtuseThis nigga be using a thesaurus
>>97928532Guard has multiple combat patrols
>>97928544Space Wolves have a total of 12,000 space marines in their chapter IIRC, since they only have a single successor.The 12,000 means that they have more black space marines than any other chapter.
>>97928555I saw obtuse, so I said obtuse. That ain't bullying, that's an astute observation. Did the laws of the universe change and nobody told me?
>>97928476Storm Guardians in place of a second Falcon might work better for objectives and screening, as well as a better unit for the Farseer to lead. Would also allow you to take Shimmerstone or Aspect of Murder on the Autarch, as I'm guessing they're leading the Banshees.
>>97928514You could with enough points>>97928544I actually have a few wolves worth of bits from people selling squads of them here and there for dirt cheap so that isn't a bad idea especially since my successor chapters legion historically doesn't get along with wolves
>>97928506>After you've played a game for long enoughThe point being, he was a no game faggot
>>97928560Combat patrol still plays like ass compared to spearhead, I don't think you're keeping up with the conversation.
>>97928581but why is that so? What's the difference?
>>97928561Even if that’s true which it’s probably not, Space Wolves would still be 98%+ White.
>>97928606lmao keep coping, nigger loving faggot
>white marine turns black when needed>black marine turns white when neededWhy is this black marine shit still going on all these years later when marines are able to change skin color as they please for the conditions they are in?
>>97928614How am I a "nigger loving faggot" if I am explaining how white my chapter is you illiterate gorilla?
>>97928619Stop playing 40k and come home, Kal'tsit, Kjerag is at fucking war.
>>97928624>myreally not beating the autism allegations
>>97928624>I am explaining how white my chapter isIf you have to do this mean you let the shitpost get to you. You already lost.
>>97928636Regardless of any trolling/shitposting my point still stands, SW are by far the Chapter with the Highest number of White recruits along with White Scars I think.
>>97928624Blood angels are the white man's chapter, sorry, black vikings aren't white.
>>97928624fake wolfbro.we aren't racist, stop making real Space Wolves reps look bad.
>>97928653MON'KEIGH
>>97928653Its not racist to point out simple demographic facts young pup
>>97928411AD6 only changes a potentially higher or lower density of random splurges of 1-3 damage getting through. A single attack might do enough damage to kill a TEQ in one go or do overkill.>>97928469Combat Patrol boxes can be far worse about their contents just by GW trying to clear out excess stock, and as a game mode - doesn't really bend the rules well or in any interesting way to adapt to the limitations of their contents without forcing players to lose models and even pick between them. Because these are looked at as value boxes more often due to the mode's stigma, there are huge differences for actual 40k; just look at the Custodes box vs the Admech one, potentially ~1000pts vs ~300pts.Spearhead does a bit more to separate itself from the main game and has a few extra mechanics like a deck, also keeping the rules for the old boxes around.
>>97928652Wouldn't BA be blacker than Wolves since their desert homeworld would promote higher amounts of melanin in their recruits and posthuman organs adaptations
>>97928650they have the most black marines displayed on their store page, keep coping
>>97928669Isnt there something about the injected gene-seed for all Astartes that starts to make Marines look more like their Primarchs?
>>97928658by percentage, we are the most diverse chapter that has a model range.do you even have models?
>>97928568Correct on the Autarch and Banshees. Thanks!
>>97928400Lack of consequences + rewarded.If you're antisocial in public, you'll quickly be shoved aside or people will move to their own spaces where you can't follow. Here people can, if they really, really want, always come back.You might see negative responses as discouraging.>You suck and I hate youRepeated enough time will make someone leave, if you are normal. If the way you learnt to socialize is to try and fight/dominate interactions, then instead you see these fights as a challenge and you develop grudges. You both associate negative interactions as a situation where you HAVE to react (or fear "dying"/losing) BUT ALSO as a good thing since you are being interacted with.That's why "don't feed the trolls" is the standard etiquette, because trolls love interaction, be it negative or not. And when you have enough people who justify themselves as "just having fun" or "not doing anything wrong", themselves lesser versions of the more egregious troublemakers, then it feeds itself.Let's be factual: the "demented and obsessive" posters spend their time interacting with those who feed into them. In fact, when they arrive in the thread, they are seeking these very users. The lolcows seek the milkers, as they are the ones who will interact with them.In short: This is the perfect place for them to be demented and obsessive.
>>97928681I mean I guess I sorta understand having a kind of Inuit eskimo Space Wolves population but the mulch skins make zero sense.
>>97928665>Combat Patrol boxes can be far worse about their contents just by GW trying to clear out excess stockDude, you don't even know how Spearhead boxes suck since they started to include Warcry/Underworlds bands.>Spearhead does a bit more to separate itself from the main gameSpearhead is a carbon copy of 4ed rules with 1-2 extra gimmicks.>keeping the rules for the old boxes aroundThis is true for Combat Patrol as well. WarCom has rules for 46 Combat Patrol forces AND there are extra forces introduced by White Dwarf.
>>97928408Damn bro I saw an expensive box of orks when I was a child and wanted to get it on the spot, had no idea wtf 40k was or anything but I liked that box of 16 orks and got it with zero knowledge of the lore. All these years later I still don't know the lore
>>97928681I picked up the SW terminators and the only thing I found interesting to do with all these weird bareheads is a future DW terminator project where I try to find the prefect chapter for each head.
>>97928695he's chineseyou are so fake it's unreal
>>97928686
Are salamanders meant to be African black or Caucasian with black skin?
>>97928708
>>97928707You don’t know that for sure you retard
>>97928711Doesn't matter, Vulkan gene-seeds turn their skin charcoal all the same.
>>97928685If you opt to get Dire Avengers the second Falcon would come in handy again, but given the current comp you have the use for it now would just be to Deep Strike the Banshee squad, and considering how fadt they are already it's not quite as effective.If you want a decently threatening objective runner you could also slap a Warlock Conclave onto the Storm Guardian squad with the Farseer. A 4+/5++ that's -1 to Wound is surprisingly decent for cleaning up lesser threats, especially toting around multiple Torrent weapons and two Meltas.
>>97928711the latter
>>97928708stop ban evading
>>97928711Yes. They recruit form an entire planet, theres room for pretty much any phenotype you cna imagine. But once they get the space marine goo, they’re all melanated.
>>97928711it's which ever you want, the details get a little muddy
>>97928732Don't you get tired of repeating that same bullshit over and over?
>>97928714oh, i know for SURE you're a faker.post models and stop being racist
>>97928711Originally caucasians.Then African with obsidian skin & red eyesThen caucasian with obsidian skin & red eyesNow every race with obsidian skin & red eyes
>>97928755You're talking to multiple people telling you to fuck off.Fuck off.
>>97928769None of us are going anywhere so cut this shit out
>>97928755you don't belong here, go away
>>97928769that’s just someone fucking around. decalfag is eternally trapped using his iphone to make posts because that’s how he ban evades. I won’t lie pretending to be the decalfag for attention is probably worse than being the actual decalfag himself.
>>97928755Fuck off, fecalnig
>>97928755fuck off
>>97928782Jesus Christ this place is an insane asylum at this point. Go take your meds anon.
>>97928798Fuck off.
>>97927851Sorry nobody responded, I like the fur shoulders and would love to see what you come up with.
>so you be saying we some kind of recast squad and shitI should get myself a new cutting mat
>>97928755There will always be men of dignity and character willing to stand up for decency. They will be there for as long as it takes until he stops ban evading.
>Read Kingmaker>Want to start a Knights army>See an unsold Knight Eye of Terror boxShould I do it? I promise I won't stick any wolf heads on it
>>97928826You don’t even have any models why are you speaking at all?
>>97928839Nobody has ever bought and painted Knights and regretted it, pull the trigger frendo.
>>97928561> Space Wolves have 12 Great Companies> Ragnar's is the second-biggest> Ragnar has 200 guysUnless the First Great Company is grotesquely oversized there are ~2400 as an upper limit.Incidentally this also proves that the Wolves fucking suck at fighting because they've gone from Legion strength (100k) to a big Chapter through attrition alone, with no succession.
>>97928839From what I've gathered knights have a naturally unfun tabletop experience.
>>97928840Your spiritual gang rape is fast approaching.
>>97928843>Nobody has ever bought and painted Knights and regretted it,the regret only comes when you post them here
>>97928854I thought great companies were roughly equivalent to regular chapters in size, what the fuck? That's so small, and shitty.
>>97928855They are pure AIDS in terms of crunch since they suck to play against even when they're weak because of being a complete skew army. Hobby wise though they are fantstic since there's a ton of customization and painting you can do with them.
Are there any basing bits for HW teams to form makeshift fortifications other than sandbags or pieces of ruin? I'd love something like the deployable barricade walls from Kill-Team, but with space for a tripod mounts HW weapon to fire over it.
>>97928725I was thinking that Banshees would be shot off without the reliable mobility from Jain Zar, needing the falcon.That does seem like a better use of 55pts than rangers...much appreciated.
If GW released some decent borderline pinup busts of Yvraine, a SoB, and some others (and a few of guys to make it less egregiously gooner) they would probably make a killing on them. I don't imagine it would be a high investment on their part, they should try and expand out past the wargaming part of mini painting. As it stands there are just a bunch of "totally not the lion" busts available from indie sellers.
>>97928854>Incidentally this also proves that the Wolves fucking suck at fighting because they've gone from Legion strength (100k) to a big Chapter through attrition alone, with no succession.To be fair this has happened to every single Legion. It's been 10k years of decay for the Imperium.
>>97928873So get some of the deployable walls from Kill Team and convert them??
Why do you guys use lame decade old facebook memes as reaction images
>>97928898>It's been 10k years of decay for the Imperium.wym there's a guy here saying that the Imperium is stonger than ever and could easily defeat all the threats if it only wanted to, is he lying?
>>97928908shut the hell up
>>97928912>instantly felt called outI just come here for the comedy at this point
>>97928908the decalfag does it because he’s autistic and everyone follows along. he’s the head honcho here, and what he says goes.
>>97928904Already tried, doesn't work.
>>97928912?
>>97928898>with no successionEvery other legion split off into chapters during in the second founding. Besides the Wolves everyone else was at the same 1000 marines starting point.
>>97928908If it was funny then it's funny now
>>97928878Jain Zar is an extremely good and nigh oppressive leader at 1000p, as she essentially doubles movement for Banshees. The Autarchas well also had a good chance of giving a big mobility boost since they can re-roll Advance rolls.If you wanted to use her in place of a Falcon or Storm Guardians it could work, with the Autarch going with the Fire Dragons instead which is in itself a terrifying option, as it gives free Preternatural Precision for them to get Ignores Cover or Sustained Hits.
Can you all stop shitting up the thread by interacting with the sperglord furfag? Thanks.What new faction is next? Exodites, Dark Mech, Traitor Guard, Hrud...?
>>97928938Dark mech and Exodites
>>97928908>>97928927It's just his coping mechanism. Please have some sympathy, he's going to be spiritually raped soon. It's clearly very hard on him.
>>97928938Exodites obviously
>>97928898There were ~1million Loyalists during the Heresy (10 Legions of 100k)There are ~1million Loyalists now (1000 Chapters of 1000)Only ~2k of those have Wolf genes now when there used to be 100k
>11th is gonna be a melee infantry edition!!1!>Nerf melee>Buff tanksShiggy
>>97928819Do you prefer these over the current raptors?
>>97928928>Every other legion split off into chapters during in the second foundingNah. Salamanders refused utterly, Iron Hands only split off like two Chapters, Imperial Fists were completely wiped out and had to be rebooted, etc.
If I wanted to run an almost entirely jump pack and biker army for space Marines, would it be viable? I don't want to be competitive try hard level, but I do want it to be fun and playable against most things. Would there be a better army to represent something like that? I also wanted to kitbash them riding giant horses instead of bikes, so would anyone know a good kit, sprue, or 3d print to take that from?
>>97928938What are you even talking about?Anyway I hope they don't add a faction. They have all the important bases covered, and there are existing factions in desperate need of attention. Fuck, I would be happy if they could even make an effort to have 1 of ever available kit actually available in-stores.Even just from a business perspective, I have essentially given up going to GW despite it being my closest LGS because they never have fucking anything and all that happens is you show up and they can order it for you, but I could do that over the phone, or just order it from the warehouse directly to my house (or at that point just order it from any number of other, often cheaper options).
>>97928947>(10 Legions of 100k)This was never the case. Ultramarines for example had over 400k, and some Legions had way below the 100k mark. They were never even in number at all.
>>97928916you used 4chan for something else?
>>97928951Yes. To be fair I never got to play any raptor and never actually got the current box, back in 2021/22 I got 3 boxes of the old Possessed for an unit of 10 and turned 5 of them into Warp Talons using the wingpack bits but I barely got to play those before Possessed were upgraded into much bigger units, my bro got me these old raptor recasts for my birthday this year so i'll play them against him next game.
>>97928938Traitor Guard, obviously
>>97928955For the Iron Hands that was because they had so few left by that point. I presume the Salamanders had a similar deal, both Legions were gigafucked at istvaan.The Imperial Fist wipe out and reboot was after the second founding, during the War of the Beast. It was only because of them being split up in the second founding that enabled the reboot, with all the many successors contributing marines and material back into remaking the original.
>>97928963I agree with this. There are a bit too many half baked factions as is that did not need it. thousand sons, world eaters, and emperor's children really did not need the separation. Many of the unique models could have been generic stat lines with alternate loadouts based on alignment.
>>97928963>They have all the important bases coveredNo proper Lost & The Damned is a serious deficiency. Also no Space Wood Elves to go with our Space Dark Elves and Space High Elves.
>>97928950>Buff deep striking >But only for shootingLel
>>97928938dark mech and exodites 100%
>>97928963>I have essentially given up going to GW despite it being my closest LGSThat's because you were banned for the nazi iconography on your tanks, thougheverbeit.
Why is chaos cooler when they aren’t chaos worshippers? Iron Warriors are bad guys but they’re Chaos on their own terms.
>>97928966>Ultramarines for example had over 400kTheir numbers swelled to ~200-250k after the purging of the 2nd and 11th legions but before that they were closer to the "standard" legion sizeIn reality all numbers in Warhammer are made up and retarded and should be completely ignored in any serious conversation
>>97928976Good points.But was there never an event that killed a ton of Wolves during the Heresy? What about the Burning of Prospero?
>>97928982Does that mean gsc are going to be unbelievably strong?
>>97928989they're chaos worshiping slaves like all the rest, they're just in denial
>>97928994>But was there never an event that killed a ton of Wolves during the HeresyThe BoP was one of the only fights that incurred mass casualties for the wolves but it was nowhere near istvaan
>>97928989Anyone who thinks they are "Chaos on their own terms" are just dumbasses that got tricked by the Chaos Gods through hubris. They are just as cucked as everyone else on the Chaos side but the fact that think they aren't actually makes them even more cucked.
>>97928989fuck the imperium and the gods
>>97928989
>>97928989This mindset seems to be incredibly common among BL-tards
>>97928938Exodites most likely. Rumours have them getting at least a kill team almost certain.Traitor Guard most deserved in terms of setting importance, but I'm worried that'll cut the roster way down from just converting regular IG.There's probably something in the pipe that could be described as dark mech, further elaboration around Vashtorr at least. They might lean more Forge of Souls than darkmech while doing it. I'd still prefer Traitor Guard and DarkMech mixed up in a Lost and the Damned style book with some solid rules for allying to other chaos armies.Them doing a Tarellian and Barghesi makes me hopeful that an official Hrud model will happen in the next few years, but odds of an army still feel rock bottom low.
>>97928938Every time they add a new faction the deldar refresh gets pushed back 3 years
>>97928989Why all undivided nigger except for WB have this train of thought? Is delusional an infectious infectious disease?
>>97928938The Lost and the Damned. it's more than just traitor guard. It's more PDF, Cultists, Mutants, etc. It's also completely doable now with minimal new units. Between Jakhals/Tzaangors/Poxwalkers, Accursed Cultists, cultist Cultists of various flavors, Fellgors, etc. They just need to expand a bit more/give them some schtick that makes them different from GSC (Daemon summoning?)
>>97929038DEldar don't need a refresh, they just need like 3 units.
>>97928984I'm obviously not the decalfag. I can't even get the models I want from GW to put SS lightning bolts on them if I wanted to. My GW store doesn't even have a box of crisis suits, and they haven't for years. You haven't been able to go to the store and pick up ANY of the tau battle suits (you know... their entire army essentially) for years, no crisis suits, no stealth suits, no broadsides (I did buy one, but there's never been more since that one), no ghostkeels, stormsurges, or riptides. Ever. The only thing ever in stock is pathfinders, and sometimes a commander. If ordering things online didn't exist, Tau would be a completely unviable army to build in my area for literally no reason.>>97928978GW went too hard on a million different individual kits for every single minor variation of a unit across sub-factions. There are a dozen space marine kits that could have been the intercessor box with one added sprue of extra bits and everyone would have liked that kit way more than any of the existing kits, and it would have serviced the same resulting squads. You could have more viable subfactions if GW just did this, and gave you more options in the boxes, but instead there are 9 different SM chapters that all need full line refreshes for no reason apparently meanwhile GK hasn't been updated in 15 years and all the non-SM factions are happy to get 1 kit a year that was made from the same 3d model they used to make the last kit.>>97928980I don't know what L&TD is, but okay.High elves and Wood elves are the same thing as far as I'm concerned. There doesn't need to be a separate faction of Eldar. Eldar can get a box of independent mercenaries or something like a heroes of the imperium style unit. It makes no sense for them to have 'an army'. Hell it barely makes sense for the deldar to have a standing army.
>>97929055>I don't know what L&TD is, but okay.Be less new you fucking retard.Not even any point answering the rest of your post when you're a clueless newfag whose opinions don't matter.
>>97929055Fuck off, retard
I'm tired of feeling bitter all the time.
>>97929072paint your models. it will keep you at peace and forget why you’re bitter.
>>97929072I would feel so much more hopeful if I had a cute space gf.
>>97929072unironically spend less time in this shithole of a general
>>97929048Did you have Kabalites, Vect, and Reaper on your short list?Because I know I sure didn't.
>>97929045We here at JeW have heard you and are happy to announce a new imperial guard detachment, "The Lost and the Doomed"!>Mutated Masses: [Platoon] units in this detachment may declare a charge in a turn they advanced, weapons equipped by [Squadron] units in this detachment in this detachment lose the [heavy] ability and gain the [assault] ability>[Officer] models in this detachment may not issue orders, and gain the Dark Pacts ability (see codex: chaos space marines)>You may take up to 500 points (strike force) of [chaos daemons] as allies in this detachment
>>97929072>>97929085But also don't go to /wip/ we don't want miserable /40kg/ people ruining the thread with all your nazi stuff
>>97929039its what happens when renegade space marines (as in rebelling from the Imperium for purely political reasons) aren’t supported in writing or models, so they have to cling to the few CSM armies that have it slightly vague on whether they truly worship chaos or not.
>>97929090there's only one nazi larper in /wip/ and he's not from here
If you were going to do a Codex: Zoats for real how would you do it?
>>97929097He is very overtly the same nazi guy from this thread. But anyway I'm not getting into it.
>>97929090what’s wrong with my nazi stuff?
>>97929087>ReaperYou mean Reaver? Dumbass? Those rumors are probably fake.
>mom gets interested in 40K (just curiosity, she doesn't plan to get into the hobby any time soon)>she actually asked questions whenever a friend came over to play a game with me>explain basic lore to her as best we can>show her examples of minis on the official site one time>arrive at Dark Eldar>she says she likes their aesthetic (especially the wracks and Kaballites)>mfwI didn't have the heart to explain their lore to her.
>>97929108Send her a video going over each faction and see what she thinks.
>>97929108>Women are evil>Women like the evil factionYou sound shocked, anon
>>97929108Ofc she likes dark eldar, show her the night lords next
>>97928870I wish they would go all out and make them a mech micromanagement faction. You get that one centerpiece but you need to juggle energy distribution to various systems, ammunition feed, facing, exposure and so on. Real tactical choices that will impact your performance on the battlefield and prompt different reactions from your opponents.
>>97928501does killteam? >>97928595combat patrol doesn't have anything to keep anyone engaged. Its not even friendly to people who have never rolled dice before.
>>97929108Hellraiser came out almost 40 years ago anon. Your parents can handle edgy stuff.
>>97929106No, the Reaper. Old FW boat they lost at the start of 10th edition.
>>97929155>Shit TeamPlease don't mention it in Warhammer 40,000 general fret. It is not a Warhammer 40,000 game.
>>97929088Apologies there were some oversights on this detachment, here's your day 0 patch :)>What's new?:>LatD may not take [EPIC HERO] units>LatD units my not be affected by orders for any reason>LatD [Squadron] units now only gain [assault] on weapons that lost [heavy] as a result of this detachment
>>97929172fuck off detritusfag
>>97929178>>97929088Sometimes I legitimately forget that people here actually play 10th edition
>>97929185Which edition are you currently playing?
>>97929179>detritusThis is a blue board and playing or event mentioning K*ll Team is considered scat since it's on par with consuming faeces.
>>97929108Your mom likes being held up on leather and chains. I'm sorry you found out this way.
Next month is the 1 year anniversary of the collage. We should do something special but I don't know what. Got any ideas?
>>97929200Someone suggested doing something non-combat/relaxation related, so I really like that.
>>97929197you can't even deny it you brainrotted retard lmao
Going to an event next month to end 10th edition. The list:>Firestorm>Lysander>2x5 terminators, one with missile launcher, one with assault cannon>land raider>land raider redeemer>2x tactical squad with meltagun and heavy bolter>2x rhinos>devastator squads with 4 multimeltas>drop pod>vindicator>whirlwind>5 scouts>1995 pointsIt's purging time.
>>97929200Desert warfare. Sandy bases, desert camo colors, Orks with cactus armor.
>>97929185I don't, I just know how games workshop writes rules
>>97929200Take a stab at OSL or NMMSomething Extra Edgy (either meaning)Freehand Something
>>97929206>Hosting an event next month to end 10th editionS-see you there?
>>97929200What was the theme of the very first collage? Maybe we should simply re-do it?
My LGS is hosting a big singleton format event to say goodbye to 10th to "make everyone bring some variety". The first two people to sign up both are bringing Necrons. I can't wait to play against CTAN spam yet again while literally being unable to bring enough AT units to kill them because of the format.
>>97929233>singleton>[UNIT] spam???
>>97929237Every CTAN is its own data sheet. That plus TSK makes for 5 super units, although they're not as good as they were before the emergency patch a couple weeks ago.
>>97929237>Ctan shard of the deceiver>Ctan shard of the night ringer>Ctan shard of the void dragon>Transcendent c'tan All different datasheets, all allowed in one list as per singleton rules
>>97929237>nightbringer void dragon deceiver and generic are all separate datasheets
>>97929222Yes. (threatening)
>>97929239>>97929241>>97929242Abominable. When my LGS was running a singleton event, you were only allowed to field 1 single-model unit for every multi-model unit.
>>97929108Tell her they're cool evil pirates
>>97929263Technically true. Pirate mafia, gladiator women, and frankenstein monster elves. Simple enough.
>>97929200>Missed the first montage even though I was very active at the timeI'm such a chud or something
>>97929230vehicles
Why does the IG have so many glup shitto regiments?
>>97929322This hobby is grounded in historical wargaming
>>97929322>glup shitto?
>>97929218>NMMWe want people to participate in the collage, not be scared off anon. I reckon we would have 3-4 entries at best. For OSL I'd be happy to display my airbrush slop abilities
>>97929233Is your store filled with a lot of competitive only types as well? Mine got filled with people who even try to take blood bowl seriously and get mad if someone runs a stunty team for fun.
>>97929328Irrelevant obscure characters that only appeal to wiki autists.
What's the worst BL book that came out recently and what's the best one?
Has anyone here done a photo of all of their collage entries?
>>97929322They're meant to be the main and biggest fighting force of the Imperium, so inventing a few new ones at any given opportunity is a good way to help convey a sense of scale.
>>97929347The Imperium isn't that big or numerous in reality, stop parroting in-universe propaganda.
>>97929345I'm sure some poor sap here has
>>97929233>singletonThat isn't far off my current list desu, the only thing I have doubles of are flash gitz and trukks, oh and warbosses but none of those are essential. I think its a very easy format for an ork army desu, particularly for war horde
I can't decide if I should go full on Darkmech or have my Heretek/Enginseer refrain from drinking the Kool-aid, with a wibe more like the one in Necromunda.
>>97929350Yeah, Humanity is on the brink of extinction. Warbands of 1k warriors is enough to hold planets or topple insurrections within days. There's a couple billion humans in the galaxy, maximum
>>97929260>bring four cheap objective grabbers alongside your broken C'tanoh no
>>97929362Not to mention all the territories that the Imperium claims fall under their mandate but are actually independent, or they've lost control over after the Great Rift."There are an infinite number of guard regiments" makes zero sense at this point. The Imperium controls only like 30-40% of the Galaxy, tops. Probably even lower than that.
>>97929341I heard void exile is pretty good. Anything by Mike Brooks is usually terrible. I am hoping that next ork book coming out about freebootaz is decent.
>>97929337>tfw "casual" players who run broken listsIt's a sad state of affairs
>>97929368>The Imperium controls only like 30-40% of the Galaxy, tops it's less than that, remember that the old line was that the Imperium controlled "a million" worlds, and after the great gift it controls far less than that on its side of the Galaxy.
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>>97929377You'd think at this point GW would start killing off IG regiments, Space Marine chapters, and SoB orders. There are probably more of those than there are loyalist planets.
>>97929377>"a million" worldsDoes 40k specify how big the galaxy is or what was the believed number of stars when the setting was conceived? Because Milky Way has over 100 billion stars, each with a potential system of orbiting planets. A million worlds, hell even a million systems, would be literally nothing.
>>97929374It really is. I remember getting flak for running an all monster 'nid list once before that one detachment came out then got nerfed. There are people who claim to play "casually" but run whatever is broken at the moment, sell off everything not broken, just to rebuy it again if it comes back into the meta. I am still trying to figure out how to get a mostly bike and assault marine list to work. I want something fun but at least playable. You get dozens of guys claiming it have "come up with a list" but it is the same current meta thing from a YouTube video.
>>97929394Considering most worlds are uninhabitable.
>>97929394The Milky Way has an estimated 1 trillion planets, and the number is far higher because there are 400 billion stars and if each one of those had 9 planets like our solar system that's three trillion easy. And that's not counting all the dwarf planets.The number of planets in a galaxy is stupidly high.
>>97929377The Imperium would 1v1 and dump any Xeno threat currently in existence.
>>97929377"a million worlds" might be a figure of speech, rather than a literal number
>>97929408The Imperium can't even survive its own civil war and regularly loses to Orks.Again, stop parroting in-universe propaganda.
>>97929386>that servitorI need an STL recreation of that to make a mobile version of the vox relay beacon.
>>97929394>A million worlds, hell even a million systems, would be literally nothing.Yes, that's intentional. >The galaxy contains some four hundred thousand million stars of various types. Of these only a fraction are presumed to have habitable planetary systems, and only a fraction of these have been investigated. Most are situated within the spiral arms between ten and forty thousand light years from the galactic center.>The very size of the galaxy means that, despite the use of faster than light warp drives, most of it remains unknown. Even the human controlled lmperium, by far the largest and most widely distributed of all stellar empires, contains only a tiny fraction of the galaxy‘s stars. New worlds are constantly being discovered and investigated, along. with their attendant civilizations, creatures and resources. Even so. there is no possibility of either humans or aliens exhausting the galaxy's potential to provide new worlds for habitation and exploitation.Warhammer 40,000 Rogue Trader (1987)>As powerful as it is. the lmperium does not rule the entire galaxy. Mankind's worlds are spread thin across the 200,000,000,000 stars that make up the galaxy. within the lmperium's vague borders are rebellious enclaves of human worlds. domains ruled over by alien war leaders. colonies of creatures too aloof or basic to disturb mankind or draw the attention of the war fleets. The lmperium is engulfed in a constant state of war. Sometimes simply continuing its wars of expansion, other times fighting against foes who threaten the survival of the entire human race.Warhammer 40,000 3rd edition rulebook (1998)
>>97929403on the contrary, the number of habitable worlds must be massively increased from a real life understanding of them because there have been at least 3 galaxy spanning empires who have actively terraformed worlds
>>97929420>The lmperium of Man comprises a million inhabited worlds, stretching from the furthest reaches of the Eastern Fringe to the distant Halo Stars. Although this is a huge number of planets. it is as nothing when compared to the immense size of the galaxy itself. The lmperium is spread very thinly across space: its worlds are dotted through the void and divided by hundreds, if not thousands of light years. It is therefore wrong to think of the lmperium in terms of a territory which extends across the galaxy. The truth is far more complex. The lmperium's holdings are scattered far and wide by the vagaries of Warp travel and spatial drift. One inhabited system may be separated from its nearest neighbor by alien civilizations, unstable Warp storms. dimensional cascades or unexplored space. Indeed, Mankind's ignorance of his environs far exceeds his meagre knowledge. for humanity has yet to explore much of the galaxy. Who knows what ancient secrets lie undiscovered and undisturbed amongst the stars?Warhammer 40,000 5th edition rulebook (2008)>The reality is rather different. The Imperium is in constant flux, worlds vanishing amidst howling warp storms or annihilated by invading terrors even as new territories are claimed by Rogue Traders and Explorator fleets. Imperial crusades surge across the stars, driving back their enemies or vanishing in the bloody maelstrom of war. The Imperium is best pictured as many thousands of tiny candles, scattered far and wide through a dark and hungry void. Some burn bright, or burst into vibrant life, even as others flicker, waver and are snuffed out.Warhammer 40,000 9th edition rulebook (2020) (repeated in 10th)
>>97929408stop ban evading, faggot
>>97929420>1987>1998So non-canon at this point.
>still have the ratlings from the brutal and cunning kill team box>will have the guard squad spare once the fucking red terror kill team box comes outI need a guard friend to offload these models to
>>97929386Yeah, as you can see, he's not very spikey. I'm wondering if I should try to catch that style (and paintjob) or go full retard on the chaos-y stuff. Or if I should go with a middle ground and hide some chaos mutations/symbols on the model
>>97929387They technically have, but nobody has ever cared about the Dieprian Mountain Men.
>>97929426GO AWAY
When do you think GW will add a new faction/army?
>>97929453you're the one that needs to do that and the mods quite clearly agree
Anyone here have experience in wet blending? Do you have to add some drying retardant to the mix like glaze medium?
>>97926545So the new ork blitz brigade detachment is pure dogshit right?>YOU CAN RE-ROLL CHARGE ROLLS AFTER EXITING A TRANSPORTExcept you can't charge after leaving a transport and instead have to roll up weather a turn of gunfire and possibly getting charged which would negate the whole ability. And if your moving your transports close chances are your close enough to reliably make charges anyway.I guess its more for cross map charges from transports that haven't moved at all during a waaagh!? But that seems really niche compared to [Sustained Hits 1] on every melee weapon. Seems like Orks can never have useful detachments and are instead relegated to having 1 super niche detachment ability that affects a total of 3 units in the codex.
>>97929456Hard to say.Were the Votann as successful as GW would have wanted them to be as they're not a space marine army?
>>97929461Except that I am not banned, idc what you think now stop derailing.
>>97929468We dont have all of the details for it yet (enhancements, all the strats) but even if its bad I'm still keen to try it out. It should've been an army wide faster than yooz like enhancement desu
>>97929417C.A.Ts are great
>>97929322because the game would be impossible if every subfaction was spun off into a separate codex like catachans, krieg, valhallans, snake bits, blood axes, corsairs ettc.
>>97929486well we have half the strats>for 1 CP reduce the wound roll of attacks with strength greater than the toughness of your unit by 1. Applicable to battlewagons, kill rigs, hunta rigs.>for 1 CP get units in the transport get to disembark and move D6" after your transport is shot>for 1 CP your orks can embark on a transport within 6" at the end of the fight phase if there are no enemies within engagement range
>>97929322Obvious garbage bait aside, it's because the Imperial Guard is the historical based faction, as in the faction for the people who like historical armies and the likes.Contrary to an actual historical setting you have freedom in colors, look and equipment.
>>97929512Its fuckin stoopid but I still like it.
>>97929519That's the spirit
>>97929456My hope and dream? Pic relatedReality? Dark Mech or Traitor guard 100% but hopefully after that will be Xenos time again
I still think that aeldari corsairs should be able to be taken by drukhari.
>>97929510I wonder if its even worth taking a kill rig in that detachment. I do want to see a list for it, I'm guessing it will be a fuckload of trukks and maybe a battlewagon
>>97929527I'd be happy with just a grot detachment desu
>>97929456all possible chaos waves will remain contained in the existing chaos codexesall possible imperial waves will remain contained in the existing imperial codexes, save perhaps salamanders getting turned into a supplement it's near impossible for men of iron to be added as an independent force, so they'll more likely be inside LoV if they get expanded upongrot revolutionaries could receive an independent book, if gw can move past its fear of political controversies, but it's also possible if not likely that they wouldn't split orks and instead give a reason for the grot units to be together with the orkswhether exodites will be a completely separate book or something that slots inside craftworld eldar is up in the air, and on whether they give them the stallionzoats are another complete incognita because they could be added to tyranids, to genecults, or something else entirely like exodites/slanni depending on the lore reinvention they would getslanni are a faction that cannot exist in any other codex except exodites if they decide to play it safe on themwe'll see what gw wants to do with exodites between 3 to 6 years, after that nobody can know, but no other potential faction exists
>>97929540Night Gobbos in space would be neat as a subline, like Kroot or Beast Snaggaz.
>>97929322As opposed to Space Marines having hundreds of glup shitto chapters?
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>squigs in 40k are supposed to be some sort of tyranid that the orks have claimed as their ownSo where did the aos variants come from?
>>97929510the detachment is out on warhammer community in downloadsOrk faction file
>>97929202>>97929209Beach day? It's almost summer for the Norther Hemisphere. You can get your desert vibes and beach vibes
