Have classes in RPGs (This also includes implicit classes like shadowrun even if you can technically be a hybrid of sorts in some editions there or heavy multiclass systems like shadow of the demon lord) became overly blorbofied? Like we all know that sort of human male fighter meme thing that goes along with it's sort of implicit meta INTJ (By virtue of it being contrarian in spite of it being something every other asshole on the internet claims to be) which all seems to put everything into these sorts of super strict archetypes that games won't let you deviate from or if you do deviate from them you get called a meta gamer (Ironic because an actual Intuition + Thinking type would absolutely be a meta gamer or someone who would prioritize beating in-game challenges over roleplaying or putting on airs about how based they are)
>>97931220Most retarded OP I've seen in a while, including the gibberish cowe bullshit
Please rewrite your statement in proper english.
>>97931220>what the fuck is a punctuation mark
>>97931229Both gamers and game devs are overly attached to classes and their archetypes are strangling any creativity possible in order to virtue signal how much they watch youtube table top game analysis. Like it is a fucking bitch and a half to make a good spell thief character when back in the days in 2e all you have to do is pick a thief/mage multiclass. This is especially bad in 5e but is kind of jank in other systems where you can or cannot mix and match abilities depending on how they are written in the system itself.On a community level if you play anything that is even remotely novel you get called a tranny faggot. You can't even play a dwarf priest or cleric these days in a lot of tabletop spaces, especially ones that are aligned with /tg/ and the rpgcodex.
>>97931220>Like we all know that sort of human male fighter meme thing that goes along with it's sort of implicit meta INTJThis is unintelligible.
>>97931220Classes are garbage.
>>97931252Thank you, I can't relate, especially since people I play with aren't stubborn like that, but at least now I understand your problem.
>>97931220>blorbofiedThe fuck is this supposed to mean?
>>97931220>AI hallucination OP
>>97931220Classes themselves only exist as a way to pre-package specific fantasy archetypes. The reason Wizards don't have armor is because they're emulating how people remember Gandalf wearing robes all the time.
>>97931252why don't you just play a game that lets you do you what you want without all this pointless shitting about with unnecessary subsystems?
>>97931220>>97931252Just say what you mean: WotC D&D and its consequences have been disastrous for the hobby. D&D as a "Lifestyle Brand" and the commodification of mechanics as part of a consumer identity have turned these classes from a useful way of creating easy to understand roles and playstyles into a herd of inbred sacred cows.
Classes do not make character creation easier.
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>>97931220What worldbuilding?
>>97931220>INTJ>expecting random anons to be into this specific brand of retardation enough to know what this means by heartMBTI has predictive capabilities no better than astrology. Kys.
>>97931890>these classes from a useful way of creating easy to understand roles and playstylesAh, yes. The fighter. How could class that began as a trap option for people who never understood fighting was a failure state end up being a retarded trap option with more ribbons for people who don't understand fighting is a failure state? Truly the west has fallen...
>>97932228???did you learn this from nogames osr troons?
>>97932288Kys, nogaems-kun.Fighters are beyond useless in every edition that isn't 4e.
>>97931252>Like it is a fucking bitch and a half to make a good spell thief character when back in the days in 2e all you have to do is pick a thief/mage multiclass.If you're OP, using Shadow as an example of a "heavily multiclass system," just literally pick the warlock expert path and you become a spell thief.
>>97932228Congrats on making the dumbest post /tg/ has seen in hours. Your reign as supreme retard will be short-lived.
>>97931301It's like smormu or chungus. You know, I wumbo, you wumbo, he she me, wumbo?
>>97931999Worldbuilding doesn't belong here, you mindbroken cuck.
>>97931220what?!
>>97931220I didn't really understand what you said, but people who bitch about metagaming tend to be inconsistent with their standards and actively encourage metagaming as they tell the players to solve puzzles with the knowledge the player has instead of the character's, or tell the player to make a persuasive case using their own charisma and logic instead of the character's.It's better to not listen to people who cry about "metagamers", because they're all massive hypocrites.
>>97931252well?
>>97931252Is this some kind of left-wing meme...?
>>97932994>t. salty because someone shits on a tier 5 class
>>97932228>fighting is a failure state>in a system that mostly involves combatMakes sense.
>>97931252Why did you bring up SotDL as an example of this when the things you're complaining about here don't apply? Hell, SotWW went even further with it to give more freedom for this sort of thing.
>>97931220I have no clue what the fuck you're on about OP, but whatever your problem is, I suggest you play GURPS.
>>97934008I'm glad to see you're so dedicated to holding on to your title of "biggest retard on /tg/"
>>97934297Go on. Tell me how your fighter fights a pack of wolves who all OHKO your characters. Faggots like you don't even make it TO the dungeon. You're never seeing a dragon either.>in a game called dungeons and dragons
>>97934733>t. salty martial cuck
