How can you stay mad at this face? edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97923295>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Who's the biggest villain of the Mortal Realms?
>>97936225Anyone who defies Morathi.
>>97936241Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>97936247Yes. Morathi is the true greatest diety and thus deserves all the worship
>>97936301She can drain me of all my devotion
>>97936327Same brother.When I'm lifting and struggling I always think of her and it gets me through my sets and hitting PRs
So if gotrek is going to be the face of the new slayers, does that mean he’s no longer going to be getting anymore books?
ya'll fucking losers holy shit
>>97936478Why are you gay?
>>97936352I thought Gotrek was available for most Order factions. If not, I guess that's an end to his novels. I don't know how well they were selling, but I never bought one.
Taliban 970/1000 pts-----Grand Alliance Chaos | Maggotkin of Nurgle | Tallyband of NurgleGeneral's Handbook 2025-26Drops: 3-----General's RegimentLord of Plagues (100)• General• Gift of Febrile Frenzy• The WitherstaveRotswords (200)---Regiment 1Poxbringer, Herald of Nurgle (90)Plaguebearers (130)Plaguebearers (130)---Regiment 2Harbinger of Decay (140)Sloven Knights (180)-----Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The AppApp: v1.30.0 (1) | Data: v417How is this for a 1k list? Are the plaguebearers redundant with rotswords already? Do I replace them with the pox walkers cause honestly I brought them to go with their wizard hero but I can swap out the wizard daemon for a the human rotbringer sorcerer. Is the Nurgles menagerie formation fun? I have 3 flies and a lord of afflictions already but I wouldn’t mind getting a Maggoth rider, a Festus and some more knights. Is Crit 2hits on all companion weapons impactful or is the damage and rend too weak to matter?
WFB art? In the OP? Yikes!>>97936344TWW secondary please go
>>97936565I play AoS and proudly represent my dedication to my goddess
>>97936499In my experience playing into them rotors are still threats while plauge bearers are less but are still annoying. Not sure how they would feel in a 1000 point format. Also I’ve only ever seen belga for a foot sorcerer or foul hoof but I’d have to guess those guys can be toxic in that point bracket.
Why would they release an Underworlds gang focused on the Bonesplitterz if the faction was going to be eliminated, or were there plans to revamp it but ultimately didn't?
should i buy nagash as my next project
>>97936612Get ready to inhale quite a bit of cement if you do.
>>97936571Then why do you only post the WFB version of her?
>>97936578Because they had designed the warband years earlier before the bean counter niggers decided the line should be axed because sales numbers were too low.
>>97936634Because there's a criminally low amount of her AoS art
What's the difference between Underworlds and Warcry?
>>97936673One is more like gundam assemble the other is more like kill team, but with list building in its latest iteration.
>>97936673Like the other anon said. Underworlds is fixed warband and cards on a flat board.Warcry is a 3d board with actual terrain, warband building.I've played both, Underworlds is fine underwhelming. Warcry Iove
>>97936241I hate that I know where this image was taken from.
>>97936241On the one hand I would never do anything with my ass. On the other hand my ass quivers at the thought of kaine from neir.
What are you guys working on?
>>97936808First the troon love-in at the TOW thread, now this, we are truly adrift
>>97936823pearl clutching faggot
>>97936823>shitting up 2 threads at onceKys
>>97936785I made the meme so no need to feel ashamed.>>97936808Kind of gay younger hard to men>>97936819My DoK for AoS and Goliath for Necromunda
>>97936819Working on finding a good ivory for my BoK dudes. Haven't painted in awhile, though, after binging a week and getting a monster 80% done.
>>97936846Proacryl has some really solid ivories and off-whites. Dark ivory and bone in particular are good
>>97936846>>97936856yeah proacryl for sure, its pretty much the best out there if you can find it. i know proacryl stuff can be a bit tricky to find though because i guess they use a direct manufacturer to vendor contract model with stores and dont have a distributor middleman so it can be hard for stores to get started with themnot sure if thats changed in the last year or two, but thats what my FLGS owner was explaining to me when he finally got them in, but thats also part of why their cost is so low
>>97936819Been trying to hunt down some argent shards because they would be lovely to paint but they’ve been out of stock since for fucking ever. I saw this one vid using crayola paints and I’ve really been wanting to try it out since.
>>97936856>>97936859My LGS has ProAcryl and I use it now and then currently. Problem is I'm trying to (somewhat) match the color scheme of some Ebay models - they're beautiful and the guy I got them from got them second-hand and can't contact the first seller.
>>97936565>piccolo threadIt do be like that>>97936578Same reason they had an entire beast related edition in which the two beast related factions did nothing and got squatted afterwards, 3rd edition and everything related was a fucking mess behind the scenes. yes I know they released this warband like a month before 3rd
>>97936576I think belga would have been my first choice but I wanted a wizard. I know she’s really useful so I will paint one eventually. As for foulhoof I would have brought him too but I don’t have any pestigors to maximize his buffs. >>97936846Painting skulls huh? I find that a good undertone can make any ivory or off white passable or even great. Personally I like AK deck tan followed by wraith bone or AP ancient stone. Or you can layer up from an ochre, brown, or desaturated brown-pink
>>97936634I think you mean the total war version
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>>97936819Based lizardbro. I'm making slow progress on the Stegadon
>>97936823>shitting up two threads at oncewowowow basedbasedbased
>>97936929>twothree actually, he's sperging out in /wip/ too
Question: Which factions are still missing in this 4th edition?
>>97936909>>97936819working on my scales of talaxis still, no pic tho because i dont have one
I have models and dice and measuring tape. What else do I need to start playing big AoS? I know the battle tome is not much more than a 60 usd paperweight. Are the cards worth buying or can I screen cap wahapedia and print them? Am I forgetting something? Is there a quick rules reference for turns and sequences that I can follow? Like a flow chart or something that’s handy and to the point and won’t take time to flip through? The benefit of using my Phone is that I can control+F to find things in the rules. How do you guys reference or search rules mid game? Is there anything actually worth playing for? Do the battle scroll cards stay relevant or do stat lines get changed too much for that? Do I make a binder or have an index card ring or something? >>97936962Errrr slaanesh SoB ogres fyreslayers HoH I think
>>97936962seraphon STILL
>>97936657>>97936879Is there any chance that the caveman Orruks could return when destruction takes center stage again, not as a faction but as a sub-faction, like the Kurnothis (the furry elves)?
>>97936979It’s definitely a possibility but I wouldn’t hold my breath over it. I just hope they can practice capoeira when they return.
>>97936634I will actually commission some art.But, I want to wait until I have paid off my mortgage and have a $100,000 investment portfolio, so in 5 years
>>97936962Slaanesh, seraphon, sons, slayers, stout strongmen
>>97936878talking about the armor plates i assume? yeah give proacryl ivory or bright ivory a try, that looks to be about in that ballpark. probably with earthshade over top of it, or a thinned 50/50 earthshade/clear medium (dont use water to thin shades, it makes them coffee stain much worse)
>>97937000I'm sure it's one of those, the shade is probably the bigger guess.Much appreciated, Mr. Trips.
>>97936578The early warbands came from the manipulation of existing assets. Bonesplitterz were one of the first armies released for AoS so it's safe to say it originates from this earlier phase and was pushed back due to the homogeneity of orcs. Ironskullz came out first in the first wave, Bonesplitterz second. GW work well in advance of production and delivery is well beyond that too. Rumours suggest they have a timeline of over three years but it could be even more or less. Bonesplitterz were scrapped in 2024, Hedkrakka's 2021. Warbands are independent of the broader range and they could be reprinted as wild Ardboys or something with IJ keywords
>>97936352I don't see why not. There's no rule that army affiliated characters can't have novels written about them.
Gents, has anyone ever seen these recast, or ever scanned into STLs etc? Not after links, just want to have hope they do exist somewhere so it's worth my time searching. I love these models.
>>97937054>The early warbands came from the manipulation of existing assets.Retard
>>97937054Hedkrakka's bodies are way different from the whfb bonesplitter/savage orc bodies though.
>>97936888Which is based on...?
>>97937063It's explicitly stated on the Stormcast podcast newfag, please rope
>>97937069>the Stormcast podcastYou dropped your gay card
>>97937070retard lmao
>>97937062The 6th edition dark riders? Can't say that I have, but I think you're better off asking /wfg/. I've seen like one dark elf cities players in almost a decade anyway.>>97937065...the same thing aos morathi is based on :^)
>>97937069No it's not at all, retard They only said the modeling team were originally thinking of selling these unique one-off sculpts as like, unit upgrade packs until the design team decided to make a game around them instead. Nothing about reusing assets which only a retard who's never sat down and looked at any of even the 1E Underworlds bands would say.The Bonesplitters Warband in particular is notable for featuring several design changes that make the sculpts very unique compared to the older Bonesplitter models, similar to how the first Seraphon Warband was the first glimpse at how the eventual new wave of Seraphon models would look.
>>97937062>>97937075Thanks for the edition clarification! Yeah probably a better place to ask. I fear I won't get to play these in AoS much longer, I wonder if they'll be dropped from CoS and then release Dark Elves for TOW again.
https://youtube.com/shorts/6FNsRG2DjfI Would this technique fit on something with more muscle like kairics or darkoath rather than something less chiseled like the blightkings?
>>97937082>I wonder if they'll be dropped from CoSAnon...
>>97937094Ah, I haven't played for a year but did just have a deep dive on the rumours on leddit. That's a shame. I enjoyed the plucky multi racial refugees angle of Cities honestly but I suppose it never made a whole lot of sense.
>>97937080>episode 19: "his involvement in seeing the miniatures and then saying "we should make a awesome game out of this"">"then the miniatures team provided us these eight sets of fighters... the original idea for these was that they would be sorting of little expansion packs for your existing units. So Bloodreavers to add into your Bloodreavers, three Liberators to add to your Liberators" Why would models expanding existing units not blend with the existing ones? All the early warbands fit with their respective units unlike the new ones.
>>97937102Yeah I'm sorry I think that ship has sailed, though there were some vague indications that they might get a halfling warband or something like that.Anyway, I do expect DE to return to tow sooner rather than later, though if they do it'll probably he with the 8th edition dark riders instead. The ones you're after might show up in a made to order I suppose. Again, /wfg/ will know more about any files (should they exist) than we do.Oh and I guess there's some rumours of malerion's elves showing up next edition, if they end up getting a 5 man cavalry unit you could always proxy your dark riders there.
>>97937107they wouldn't just reuse liberator assets and tweak aspects of them they would make them from scratch totally unique look at the warbands and tell me they reuse assets
>>97937107>Why would models expanding existing units not blend with the existing ones? All the early warbands fit with their respective units unlike the new ones."Fit With" and "Manipulation of Existing Assets" are Completely different things. The UW sculpts, even the early ones, are unique, they aren't CAD reposes using the same digital assets.
>>97937127no fyreslayers have this pose
>>97937115There was rumors about a elf/duaradin army of renown for cities though so maybe there’s still something there.
>>97937127Nta but yeah these all pretty much look like flipped assets to me?
>>97937135They're wholly unique.
>>97937135The only way you can think that is that you aren't familiar with either the warbands or the OG models that were available at the time. They're totally different.
>>97937062only got thishttps://gofile.io/d/4jFDqLmysteriousforgery probably has recasts
>>97937133Is this a leak of the upcoming refresh? Damn, they're unrecognisable. I thought we'd see more cloth and armour but this is even more naked than before Source? This isn't AI is it..
>>97937133It's annoying that GW still hasn't re-released this specific warband, it's one of my favorites.
Games workshop don't just copy paste their CAD models like a lazy amateur
>>97937150>SourceIt's the Fyreslayer Underworlds warband, one of the original 8 from the first season of the game. For whatever reason they still haven't gotten a re-release.
>>97937137Do you think the sculptor redid the stormcast armour from scratch?
>>97937166Yes. There are no female Liberators.
>>97937166>First ever Female Stormcast Sculpt>First ever Stormcast sculpt without a helmet>Unique poses and weaponsYou don't know what a flipped asset is.
>>97937172
>>97937175>literally different weapon designsAnon...are you OK?
it's clearly a prototype for Sacrosanct women. definitely looks like Astreia to me
I love Morathi but the blood hags are unsalvageably bad.The fact that you only get a single arm left over is like a middle finger.Are they one of your trials Morathi? To harness my anger and then channel it into actually fun projects? Exhalted is your name.
>>97937175Man tits
>>97937171>>97937172I'm not arguing that there aren't new partsYou're arguing that there aren't reused parts
>>97937180you'll get much much angrier when this will be the token unit included in all future bundles and even more when it will be the main unit of the subfaction once khainites are bundled with umbraneth and the 2 leftover fantasy kits are towed away for good
>>97937200>khainites are bundled with umbranethYeah that'd be deeply upsetting.
>>97937191>okay it's an asset flip but only a little bit!
>>97937200>>97937203The entire factions consists of 12 kits, and that's including terrain, spells, and a recycled warcry unit. That's fyreslayer tier, they're getting souped.
>>97937147That's so cool of you, thanks man. Really appreciate that. >>97937115>>97937134Appreciated boys, gives me hope; will hold off my rebasing for now. I'd happily proxy them, no stranger to that going off the state of my steelhelms
>>97937217And yet Fyreslayers aren't getting souped according to the leaks.Curious.
>>97937228Yes, they are, are you dumb?
>>97937231They're getting expanded with Dispossessed not souped with them
>no tzaangor aor >no hero hammer aor One job, gw. One fucking job with tzeentch.
>1e Kevin Chin internally plays Dispossessed+Fyreslayers soup in WD >4e Dispossessed+Fyreslayers soup is he the only person in GW who cares about dorfs outside of TOW?
>>97937233You ARE retarded.Dispossessed won't be fyreslayers, the book won't be battletome:fyreslayers, the dispossessed models won't be fyreslayers themed.
>>97937250That's your speculation. It'll be something like Fyreslayer Holdkyn and they'll get new models comparable to Dispossessed that are instead part of Fyreslayers
>>97937233What's even the difference
>>97937260No, that's what the rumormongers are saying, what YOU are spouting there is your delusional speculation.
>>97937260>It'll be something like Fyreslayer Holdkyn and they'll get new models comparable to Dispossessed that are instead part of Fyreslayers
>>97937260They'll be called khazalid holds, and fyreslayers will explicitely be a subfaction within this larger new factions.Sopa de duardinhõ is real anon.
>>97937243yes
>>97937260
>>97937241>>no tzaangor aorAnon all of tzeentch is basically your tzaangor aor
>>97937295I'm more trustworthy than rumoursloppa
Speaking of fyreslayers/khazalids what are your hopes/expectations/fears for that release? I feel like we talked a good bit about CoS and ogres but since we know less about slayers it's been slipping under the radar a little bit.Apparently we're supposed to get like 12 kits, most of which will be new khazalid stuff instead of fyreslayer specific. I feel like the following we can expect with reasonable certainty, but other than that I think it all depends on what aesthetic they want to lean into.-1: vulkite berzerker replacement kit (warcry style)-2: mini droth cav-3: bael-grimnir or some other FS named character~~~~~-4: khazalid not!warriors / not!rangers-5: khazalid not!quarrelers / not!thunderers-6: valayan priest?-7: generic thane type 5/3/3/1/2 melee foot character-8/9: one or two warmachines, maybe that battering ram thing
>>97937403There better be a big axe unit
>>97937389no, you aren't, you are scum
>>97937409Best we can do is whatever picrel is
Mikhail Savier really knocked it out of the park with this one.
>>97937553agreed, but this one is my personal favorite from the warcom article.
>>97937403I wouldn't trust the 12 kits number, remember the idoneth fiasco?anyway the absolute minimum fyreslayers need is a replacement for the vulkites, the removal of the other infantry kit, a second centerpiece to have a different pose for a droth, and then something to break up the silhouettes of the army like a chariot, or a warmachine, or a cavalry unit that isn't just scaled down droths, like a flying beaston the normal dwarfs side of things I think the primary concern should be making these dwarfs distinct enough from the fantasy ones, and also from both the slayers and the kharadrons, while still looking like normal dwarfs, apparently they are to get golems, and that's swell, chariots (either at the exclusion or as dual kit with the fyre one) or cavalry would also be a good thing, since fantasy avoided that while the hobbit was a testbed for some fitting designs that could be used, as per infantry I think they would do good by focusing on all purpose units instead of specialised ones, and crossbows instead of guns, so rangers, also because with that they can capitalise on the fluff of these dwarfs having become used to wandering without a true home of their own
>>97937556>remember the idoneth fiasco?QRD?
>>97937559rumormongers say idoneth are getting 3 units and spellspeople celebrateturns out the 3 units were a special character, a generic character that could be built two ways with two warscrolls, and the wave elemental that came instead of normal spells
>>97937555wish these articles didn't have these ugly Warhammer Community logos on the art
>>97937556Tbf white fangs numbers and booles numbers are kinda differently interpreted . Not to say either are wrong.
>>97937566I wish they credited their artists by name.
>>97937553>>97937555I think nighthaunt have some all around great art. Picrel is one of my favourite battletome covers.>>97937556To be fair 12 kits is a bit harder to misinterpret like the idk one. I do think at least one or two of those will be random terrain or manifestation or some shit. But this would be in line with most other recent big releases right? Nurgle and CoS both got something around 10-12 kits.>>97937559Some real monkey's paw shit. Whitefang said something along the lines of "new unit, 2 new heroes, new named character" and we ended up getting a manifestation, dual build foot hero and mathaela
>>97937556>>97937559>>97937561>>97937593wasnt there a leak that also said that cities was going to get 12 kits but then it was only 10?
>>97937587Nope, they just remove the credits on the art instead
>>97937593Fuck I mistyped, it was more like "2 new units, new hero" so people were expecting actual multiple-model kits instead of y'know more foot heroesEither whitefang was really fucking with people or it's the only time he was actually wrong since it was like the shittiest possible way to word those rumours. The idk crashout itt was hilarious I was among them
>>97937605I think we got a complete list of what it would be getting quite early on, I think the only thing missing is the final cogfort builds/alt kit
>>97937555The unit is really funny.>You desecrate tombs? Fuck you, you're burning forever.>You consecrate tombs? Fuck you, you're burning forever.It's so like Nagash.
>>97937607I know and it's so scummy.
They just leaked one of the new not Bretonian! models from the last worlds newest skirmish game; “mosscairn”. It’s looking like it’s going to be something like necromunda that involves some unit customization. Reddit deleted the leak for some reason though.
>>97937616Oh yeah I forgot all about the cogfort alt builds. Weren't we supposed to get like 6 warscrolls? Any news on that? I think adepticon only mentioned two.>>97937641I know this is a shitpost but I think cav with firelances could be cool for CoS.
>>97937641sometimes I forget about turnip
>>97937663Only if they use mechanical steeds and rocket gargolyans.
>>97937725Someone in the studio would object, "It's not grounded enough."
>>97937725>>97937732I think we can work something out
>>97937732we can add tactical rocks to add ground to the model
>>97937663iirc the leaks said 6 cogforts, 2 wizard cogforts.
Not!Bretonnia, Not!Nippon and Not!Cathay are shit ideas.
>>97937233lmaoDo you post on TGA?
>>97937791correctbut having pdf of rules for tow factions in aos would be healthy for the game
>>97937750I just checked, yeah boole implied 6 warscrolls. He also mentioned 4 names; cannonade, conqueror, linebreaker and realmscorcher. Also I think wfbmu implied there'd be at least one named variant.We already have two of the variants, the cannonade and the conqueror. The cannonade version is the one with the big cannon on top and then an extra cannon at the bottom, while the conqueror has the flamethrower on top and the drawbridge on the bottom.I think it's reasonable to assume the "linebreaker" will have the cannon on top and the drawbridge below, while the "realmscorcher" will have the flamethrower on top and the extra cannon below. No idea how the last two configurations would work though, maybe a generic and named "command" version?Also sort of related but another rumourmonger stated that the wizard cogfort was actually an entirely separate kit and gave a fairly detailed description of it. Apparently spindly wizard towers and a courtyard, something like that. This strikes me as very odd though, and apparently this particular rumourmonger (hastings) hasn't been very accurate lately (though he broke some big news like, 15 years ago)I suppose we'll find out more when the rest of cities goes on preoder in two weeks.
>>97937802I’d rather not.
>>97937641New not! Qwar
>>97937805>No idea how the last two configurations would work though, maybe a generic and named "command" version?I seem to recall the reveal stream said the army of renown focused on the cogforts alone (and the gallants carried troops) would have those two configurations
>>97937798surely
>>97937805>walking castle cog fortThese are super cool but I don’t play cities and I don’t have any experience painting big terrain like this and I KNOW they’re gonna cost an arm and a leg Do you guys think cogforts will get an AoR or a battle formation or will they just get pushed into the ranged-focus CoS formation?
Arcane ZOGforts rumbling to battle, crewed by the brave xitizens of the Sissies of Seethemore
>>97937848They're getting an AoR for sure, AND every GA will get one cogfort variant to use as RoR, similar to mega gargants. There's no way gw wants a kit this expensive restricted to just one faction. They even showed this off in the reveal article, with a cogfort next to darkoath.>>97937849You sound bitter anon, maybe hop on "e" to blow off some steam. I hear that's all the rage in /wfg/ these days :)
>>97937725Give me that fucking rocket cat time meow
>>97937958that'll be over 30 paints
>>97937972no wonder GW prompted him so much holy kek
>>97937972>>97937990Good old knotleyI do like the red/mustard yellow scheme
Blasting Duel of Fates when he and CADslayer fight.
>>97938040>didn't even paint the boneThat aside seeing the gallants in fully helmeted lineup + the boar knight has significantly improved my opinion of them.They're still not quite what I was looking for but seeing thek like this at least bumps them up to a 6 or something.
>>97938040>shitbull helmet
>bear (command corps)>fish (command corps alt)>deer (cavalier champion)>raven (steel rook commemorative)>manticore (darkwater)>grffin (gallant champion)>boar (gallant chamoion alt)Rank 'emAlso what other creatures would you like to see? I think there's a good chance they bring out a CoS UW warband next, since they never got their "bunch of basic dudes" warband. High chance it'll include an arch-knight if that's the case imo.
>>97938170>steel rook>ravenfuck you too buddy
>>97938170I wouldn't count the manticore tbhon, the helmet lacks the motif present on every other one Shame because you could've slapped it on Tahlia if it looked good
>>97938170It's so odd you can build two champions from one kit
>>97938184Yeah it's weird his totem is more on ornament on top of the helmet (like cavaliers and gallants) rather than more integrated with the helm itself (like the other arch-knights, to varying degrees).However he still has the little crown badge so I guess he counts.>>97938212I was surprised by that too
>>97938078I'm tempted to kitbash Tahlia using him, the cavalier marshall, and a maw grunta but I'm not sure how to make it look a little more noble and obviously replacing the armour
>>97936909Looks great
>>97938267>beeg peeg tahliaSounds fucking sick anon I hope you get around to itIt's a long shot but my mind goes to the stormcast stardrake, it has some very flat rectangular-ish armour plates that would probably fit the mawgrunta decently while still being somewhat close to the CoS aesthetic. Otherwise maybe the armour of the (now back in tow) griffon general?
>>97938267Glad to see this cool kit be used for things other than the storm troon
Vincey V does it again, red eshin looks surprisingly good>>97938351I've seen this kit used more in conversions than as it actual "intended" usage. Same with ionus.
>>97938267don't start from the grunta
>>97938365>posts literally just a worse version of the grunta
>>97936578People still think that releasing new plastic kits is some expensive and risky investment but the truth is that in the last 10 years the technology and know-how behind it got much much cheaper. Nowadays you can even go to Wargames Atlantic and commission yourself a full plastic kit just for a few thousand bucks. GW released over a dozen of free plastic miniatures they literally give away for free at their physical stores.
>>97936970bros can I get some help here?Is there at least a WarCom download or video that gives me a list of everything I'd need? I don't want to show up to a game missing an essential component.
>>97938365I don't own a 3d printer so I'm not paying 4x GW price for something
>>97938399it's got armor, details and pose more fitting a cos rider, and will be much easier to place a rider up there.
Looks like Soulbound isn't dead>https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/explore-the-reaver-city-in-carngrad-adventures-the-first-champions-of-chaos-campaign
>>97938439how do you think a grunta costs? how do you think that model costs?
>>97938401What army would/do you play?There's plenty of "learn/how to play age of sigmar" videos out there.But yeah generally your models, dice, some measuring tool, and the warscrolls and rules for your army. Those cards are a nice extra but wahapedia will do just fine.Also terrain, but I'm assuming you'd play at an lgs or something?
>>97938463I mean, didn't champions of chaos come out like a few months back?
>>97938491PDF release was summer last year, but this is kinda the only news Soulbound has had outside of a Job listing even if it just a pre-made adventure book
>>97938469
Why the fuck does gw refuse to make aos decals?Only cos and helsmiths get em
A bit messy at the edges for some reason.
>>97938527stormcast used to have temporary tattoo esque decals but no one remembers those days...
>>97938529Soulbound: rules for squatted models and fluff for a setting about to be reset
>>97938541So just like WFRP then
>>97938499Do you think mawgrunta costs 33€?
>>97938545Aren't they now also selling TOWRP as well, which is even fucking funnier.
>>97938548TOW is a different setting so it makes sense and iirc it's a different system not just a WHFRP mod
>>97938560Isn't TOW just fantasy but less shit in it.
>>97938548They are, and it is silly, but they put in the effort to craft the game with a different system from mainline WFRP, meaning the games offer mechanically distinct experiences from each other.
>>97938548Yes, TOW RPG and WFRP are separate systems that kinda do the same thing thematically, at least when you compare WanG and IM for 40k RPGs, they are meant to do different things C7 has to many systems for their own good and they are still releasing new systems like a HH rpg and a Talisman rpg, and that just all the one they license for GW
>>97937555RIP Warcry
>>97938582Speaking of, do you guys expect any other recycled warbands to pop up now that night/gutter runners have essentially been confirmed as a former warband? What factions never got a warband? I don't think there were any doubles (except for StD obviously)
>>97938527Because they refuse to make subfaction symbols for most armies.
>>97938582What's Warcry? Isn't that those funny units they got rid of from STD because they weren't good stat wise.
>>97938477It's nurgle. I'm just trying to make sure I have a definitive checklist of what I need.My LGS has terrain and I've seen a gnarlmaw on their shelves but I'm going to print one anyway in case it's in use or missing.
>>97938680Nurgle's got quite a few options though if you want maggoth lords you'll struggle since they're available... like nowhere. But otherwise there's lots of other stuff to find.And you'll need at least 1 gnarlmaw since right now it's pretty good.
>>97938693I already have enough models for 1k and I know it won't matter much what I bring since it would be a game for the sake of learning (as long as it's not a big monster or 400 pt fatty)and yes I do plan on getting a Festus model and maybe printing a maggoth lord. the wizard one is my favorite and I don't think anyone would know or care if I proxxy him as one of the other two
kurnothi soon
>>97938747>I don't think anyone would know or care if I proxxy him as one of the other twoI doubt most people have ever or will ever see any of them on the table so yes 200%.But yeah I hope you have fun anon, I've got a Festus I've had WIP a bit I gotta get back to him once I finish all my terrain!
>>97938754Good luck then, and ty again
>>97938611splintered fang were insanely broken.
>>97938212Not really, a lot of the newer kits have that.
>>97938748>furries^2I should hope not, leave that shit in tow
>>97938802I can't think of any off the top of my head, could you give an example?
>>97938825Steelhelms, for one. Chorf infantry also.
>>97938831Oh yeah true, you're right about the steelhelms
>>97938170>S tierBear, fish, rook>A tierBoar>B tierDeer>C tierGriffin, manticoreI'd like something reptilian or maybe an insect next. Like a rhino beetle or something.I also like it more when the animal is more incorporated into the design itself rather than just kind of there. The steel rook is a perfect example.
Any idea when the cities wave is supposed to be released in full? Announced this weekend is probably a bit too hopeful?
>>97939202Maybe next month.
>>97939202I just want my cockfort...
>>97936673Both are games where you play with "small warbands"Warcry is AoS lite but with lots of new rules to the point where it becomes its own thing. You build teams with models availables and every model has its card and own rules. Before a game players build the terrain based on random terrain configuration. The game uses cards for some random things (like terrain, or play-game conditions).Underworlds is like a boardgame/card game that uses miniatures, it has its own rules (and dice)(it is a simplified mechanic/rules, as symbols)(for exemple if you have guys supporting the attacker than the support symbol also becomes a success). You get a fixed warband (from about 30+ available) and can build or pick a deck to use with them (the warband has its own abilies and the decks have their own play style). In 1.0 players would build a play board out o two board (one for each player), in 2.0 (embergard,spitewood) they made only one "huge" board to play (4 options so far). The cards are used for either small effects/warrior upgrades/and objectives(victory points). >>97936819Painting chorfs from spitewood, and also starting the kurnoth band>>97937093Should work but you better have a good small dedicated brush to apply the glue as if you leave too much glue on the recess it will fuck your model. >>97937165Steelheart's Champions, Fireslayers, Garrek's Reavers, Magore's Fiends are the ones from the first season still needing a wide reprint (sprue). Steelheat imo need new sculpt to fit the new stormcaster height >>97937175You mean the gauntlets? If so then ok, you got a point: they had modeled asserts that they just copied instead of modelling everything from 0 (but some of the fingers are different). If it is the hammer then it is not: the Hammer in the underworlds guy has "SIGMAR" written on the side. When people say reused asserts it is more to say "They picked the whole model, added or changed a weapon and changed their pose".
>>97939377>Steelheart's ChampionsImagine if they reprinted the OG warbands and Garrek had become either a champion or daemon prince and Steelheart was now a big stormcast commander or some shit.That'd be neato.
>>97939387lets keep khorne vs stormcast to khul vs vandus.
>>97939391Didn't Vandus get alzheimers and fuck off to a hole in the ground or some shit after they killed tommy wiseaucast
Apparently some of the whq hero stuff was sculpted by the same guy who did a lot of the early stormcasts (and ironjawz), as well as the new tzeentch fatemaster. Neat that he's still around. He also did a lot of the new 40k slaanesh guys.
>>97939387Imagine if they reprinted a Stormcaster warband and the leader of that warband got killed for good?rip Xandire
>>97938400Perhaps you're ESL, but "a few" usually means 1-3, maybe 1-4 at maximum. Tooling for a plastic kit is still going to be in the 5K to 10K range.
>>97939409Ya know I watched Blacktalons and i'm still not 100% sure why they killed her. Was it just cuz she was fully schizo for being stuck in ulgu and they needed a stormcast soul?
>>97936225
>>97938400>GW released over a dozen of free plastic miniatures they literally give away for free at their physical stores.If you're talking about commemorative or mini of the month type minis those usually use shittier moulds, since they're obviously not supposed to last years.
>>97939414I think he is talking about doing the models and the "prime" sprue yourself, not sure if he really wanted to say that, but in that case it could be done for like 1k, going to the manufator and creating molds and casting a few batches would be at least 3k if not more. Not sure if Wargames Atlantic does it for cheaper.(also in his exemple of GWS giving free sprues: they are not free, you have to have a subscription and that will pays for the "free" sprue (also GWS sells their plastic drugs at a way higher price than other companies so they have a ton of extra money)) >>97939416I guess they needed stakes and take down a known character to cause shock value. On story I think they went full nepotism in protecting the Stormcaster from their team over a new one that they didn't liked that much.
>>97939464I hope if they do another Blacktalons esque show for AOS it's like, not stormcast. Maybe even something like Hammer and Bolter with like an episode for each faction.
>>97939479Could be something CoS. Gw seems to be intent on making them a sort of secondary "protagonist" faction.
From tga:>Do you remember what I said about Aelves and Duardins as an Army of Renown for cities?>That would be their way to play a "multiracial" army.>Cities of Sigmar Warscroll: Allies of the Free Cities>Auric Hearthguard>Vulkyn Flameseekers>Auralan Wardens>Auralan Sentinels>Maybe there's more in the future with Khazalids or even the new Ogres (because of the Maneater that worked in the past with Tahlia)?
Big lady
>>97937553>CoSShame, it almost looked good.>>97937555Much better.
>>97939672who is the artist? image search brings up nothing.
>>97939775Right hand side bud. There’s a watermark.
>>97938529>>97938541I didn't even know AoSRP was a thing. Anyone actually play it?
>>97939775xKokobael on bsky
>>97939783Compared to other Warhammer RPG systems, no not really, but the game is at least good but GW keep retconing it's books
>>97939794Unexpected gatebreaker fan art
>>97939812If AoS models looked like this I'd be all-in
>>97939779ah, thanks. it was so light that i didnt notice it.
>>97937133I actually just grabbed these guys, I’m getting into FS, playing Helsmiths has got me loving Dwarfs
>>97939560Better than nothing, and could be worse. But also lame as fuck to spend TWO FUCKING EDITIONS writing about this uniting of races and how they have these mixed units and lodges for armies, and then go full human in 4th.
>>97939560>Vulkyn Flameseekers"Please buy the good looking ones"
>>97939841Nice haul anon, going default paint scheme or something else?
>>97939841>literal keybladesHow does anyone like them
>>97939862>auric hearthuardsclearly not
>>97937403Lofnir Lodge is best Lodge.As for what I want, Giga-droth.
>>97939876I'd take hearthguard over Berzerkers anyday.
>>97939885maybe they should have included a kharadron unit for the ranged onesimilarly for the elves, instead of spearmen they could have had the new bitch elves, or the old birch elves
>>97939889I mean, I feel like they could just do a "legion of the first prince" styled thing wherein you just get to screw around with the infantry maybe a foot hero or two but no centerpieces or named guys.
>>97939868kingdom hearts sells gangbusters you're a faggot
is there such a thing as too much blood on flesh eater court models
>>97939954yes, it's too much when the model looks bad, and it can look bad when the model stops looking like a miniature of a ghoul covered in blood and starts looking like a badly painted figurine.Use your blood as accent to highlight poses, actions and roles, not as a base colour.
There's gotta be a white primer out there that wont fuck up my minis.
>>97939983Alclad is pretty good if you have an airbrush, it's already mixed too.
>>97939983Vallejo surface primer? Primers aren't supposed to be a base layer, use a regular white paint on top but an off white would be less chalky Primers should just cover the model for paint adhesion, opacity isn't their purpose
>>97939983I'm not sure why people go with white when Grey Seer works
>>97935635#when will we see him again ?
>>97939954If it's too much for Raining Blood, then it's too much
>>97939416Because they discontinued her model anyway so she could be killed without thought.Also apparently the IDK bitch was promised a stormie soul (jokes on her stormies are SOVLess), she wanted neave but she would take any
>>97939965im almost finished with my boyos, so i was mostly curious, my only thoughts for color was i wanted them to look icy and frigid and the only warm color at all would be blood
I so badly wish we got Cathay instead of ToW.
>>97940439I very much don’t. I like the Chinese but I don’t like how Cathay in general was adapted. Wish I remained blissfully ignorant of them.
>>97940430OH SHIT you're the guy who wanted the icy ghouls. Nice to see how those turned out. And I think that's fine, weirdly enough I tend to use my blood to highlight claws and mouths like they've been eating, typically you wanna try to fuck with it a bit so it looks less like you're just slopping it on there and more like.. I dunno, it just showed up. Have some varying levels of it like they got bloodkakked.
>>97940439THAT'S IT I'M GONNA GO TELL THEM A PIECE OF MY MIND.
>>97940439Aren't most of the models pretty easy proxies for CoS?
Ya know I've been cracking jokes at GW for years now with them putting faction leaders as these massive fuckoff centerpiece models or super pricey and all that.I somehow missed IDK having their leader just be a mounted guy.
>>97940439I'm really glad we didn't. AoS is great because it's GW's designers attempting to design factions from whole cloth, or at least two points removed from anything IRL, rather than just copypasting IRL ethnicities and calling it a day. Sometimes it works better than others, but just chasing trends would never have given us cool shit like the Idoneth or Sylvaneth. The best factions of Fantasy (TOW and AOS both) are the ones with the least real-world grounding.And, frankly, the Cathay minis they came up with aren't that great. The TOW threads spooged themselves over the dragon waifu but it did nothing for me. If it does something for you, well, I'm sure you can proxy them as something in AoS if you really want.
>>97940490thanks anoni wanted to try purple wings but couldnt get a tone i liked, but then i tried the blue with black and i liked it a lot, it took me a bit to get the skin tone though, i tried a couple different thingsi wasnt gonna do them all with blood on the face, but i figured its a spearhead and i wanted it to be like the just all feasted, i also couldnt figure out a way to make the bones ripping out blend so i threw some blood on it and it looked less weird i knew i wanted to mainly have the claws and mouths drenched, ive never really done blood effects before so it was also just some experimenting, whenever i work on random shit i like trying new stuff
>>97940439whats stopping you from just buying cathay and playing cities with them? they just released a whole wave of gunners and peasants to fill in the gaps. if you want cathay i would just go for it and put them on rounds. the models are a lot of fun, and they match up with the cities roster pretty well
>>97940520I try to do the same, try different styles or effects on different models. My ghouls are typically the only guys getting blood (except a few vamp related things from SBGL but otherwise) Though looking at your dudes, I should buy some primer and get some minis worked on.
>>97940439>>97940516>>97940503>>97940534what the fuck is this copypasta cross thread shit?
some lore throwaway about helsmiths in sylvaneths battletome. Maybe a new cannon?
>>97940511Gitz' faction leader is just a little dude
>>97940569i feel so bad for skragrott. he lost his sniper rifle, he loses casting bonus every edition. he just keeps eating nerfs despite never being particularly good in the first place
>>97940556lel
>>97940560Hellcannon namedrop feels significant
>>97940569Oh yeah he is too isn't he, I kinda forgot him since Trugg came out recently as big named guy, and uhhh... John... Wolfy... But he's also just a cav sized hero. Shit and NH too, maybe it's more common than i'm thinking.
>>97940593If you hate Morathi than DoK is a little lass too
>>97940615True, though I spose I was thinking "faction leader" mind you yeah babby morathi does technically count (not price wise though)Also is the idoneth guy actually like the "big leader" I know dickall about them desu.
>>97939812coombait niggertroon slop, anyone who likes this needs to stop jacking off all the timeanyways, what's an actually good rust effect bros, i cant seem to find one
>>97940560So the potential candidates for a second HoH wave are now Lammasu, Siege Gargant, and Hellcannon...
>>97940521Whats your skin paints my man?
>>97940550debating on what i wanna paint next, im thinking either vizzik skour or nagash as my next big paint project, or just some random other skaven shit to actually have a full army
>>97940619Yeah he is. He's like Skragrott. Not a good, just the most powerful of the faction and their default leader
>>97940641proacryl tan flesh i think.
>>97940625Dirty down rust effect
>>97936819Just finished 20 more skeletons for my Soulblight, next serious project is building and magnetizing Neferata. When slacking off at work or at lunch I work on base paints for Petrifex Elite Triaxes since they’re less obvious.
>>97936970I have models and dice and measuring tape. What else do I need to start playing big AoS? objective markers, unfortunately. ideally you have an LGS near you where they have those handy to play with, but if not you can always print out or draw some circles on paper. Don't buy the fucking battletome, check wahapedia to get the info for your faction of choice and Sigdex to build your list. People will also just post the pdf if you ask nicely>Is there a quick rules reference for turns and sequences that I can follow?on warcom they have a quick start guide. There's a lot to keep track of in a 2k game but if you've been playing spearhead or smaller size games you'll get the hang of it.>How do you guys reference or search rules mid game? Sigdex for referencing unit rules and Tabletop Battles app for keeping score. It even has an option to remind you to take pictures of the board.>Is there anything actually worth playing for? no, but the free stuff is good enough. >Do the battle scroll cards stay relevant or do stat lines get changed too much for that? Do I make a binder or have an index card ring or something? In a single edition the stats might not change much but abilities will get changed, it's not worth getting the battle scroll cards.
I printed some blight templars and a the akimbo axe dude from the wurmspat to proxy as rot swords They came out good. I hope the extremities hold strong and don’t break off >>97940625>coomerbait slopI really don’t get why people want their fantasy games to be super sexualized, expressing it with 3d printed coomer shit is beyond me As for rust effects idk a lot of people like to paint it a red brown such as skrag brown or mournfang brown and either sponge or dry brush their metallic paint of choice over it
>>97941223>guy who enjoys the fat ugly bastard faction is malding about people who like attractive female charactersI don't personally need big titties but dear god it would be nice if GW could do a single good looking female face every once in a while
>>97939560Wow its even more of an insult from the pakinigger colonys faggot than expected.>buy these garbage models goyim, surely this will make up for raping your faction into the ground>no you can't use models you own, buy new ones you hecking entitled goy!The bong islands deserve their fate of being an indian subcontinent colony.
>>97941331Wouldn't SlaaneshiNurgelite would be cute, but she's puss-filled and bloated not chubby, so noKhornite is hot, but the prospect of being given the Chinese-eunuch treatment isn't worth itTzeentch girl wins, as always
>>97941342thats just capitalism bro
>>97939812I like that gatebreaker!And the fat tittied bitches but that goes without saying.>>97940625>>97941223Yeah I get that, there's a lot of shit where I go "this really didn't need to be sexualized." But if you want /yourdudes/ to be elves in lingerie, eh, that's not too weird.
>>97940439Did you know it's possible to play TOW AND AoS?
>>97940625>>coombaitFuck off, I like coombait, you faggot.
Hey fellas. Coming back to AOS after a long break. I see that GW has hidden all warscrolls behind a paywall and I'm kinda shocked that this hasn't seemed to cause a big uproar. How are you meant to understand your opponent? Literally buy all their tomes as well? I tried Wahapedia, which seems to be ad-riddled cancer. Do people still post PDFs of the tomes here?
>>97940556Motherfucker stealing my post and making it shade for the big turtle lmao, fuck you big turt rules
>>97939560Don't you mean Ogors?
>>97941701try age of index. you can copy paste your opponents list and see all their warscrolls and abilities.
>>97941701yeah, the new app is a shadow of the peak app we had in 2nd Ed. Mostly people i know made shitloads of lists at the beginning of the edition before they locked you to 1 list max.As for battletomes, yeah they still get shared here. Have your pick, any you like!https://gofile.io/d/4D1uOJ
>>97941701>I tried Wahapedia, which seems to be ad-riddled cancerWhat are you talking about? There is not a single ad there if you use uBlock.
>>97941701You're not meant to know by heart every rule of every army.Play your army, if you want to know what an enemy unit does, ask your opponent in game.
>>97939841>start collectingVgh... for fyreslayers even more than most other factions the spearhead is an insane downgrade
>>97940619Iirc he's basically the last of the original generation pulled out of slaanesh, and as his title suggests he basically has supreme authority over all other idoneth enclaves when it comes down to it.That being said his faction doesn't really revolve around him like it does for some others (DoK, Sylvaneth, Lumineth...), he isn't some god.Also thinking about your original query fyreslayers don't even have a main character type guy. Gotrek comes closest, and he's just a dwarf on foot.Stormcast have like 5 models that can qualify for faction leader, and two of them (vandus and bastian) are relatively small.
>>97939841>>97941972>start collectingMan. Lizardmen with Carnosaur one was just such a good deal. You could built a Solid army with just 3 boxes. Yea the Saurus models were...Old. But the deal made them worth it and were easy to batch paint.
>>97942003>Also thinking about your original query fyreslayers don't even have a main character type guyThey actually do, but he's lore only, kinda like how Ogres have never had a special character in AoS until the upcoming reboot. He did have some very short lived White Dwarf rules, though
>>97942031Yeah the box was like 5 bucks more than the carno was by itself, AND it was even better than you'd think since you got an extra skink or saurus foot character depending on how you'd build the carno. Saw some crazy fuckers build a whole second troglodon out of the spare parts and water effects too, but that was advanced stuff>>97942037Yeah bael-grimnir, but like you said he's lore only (for now)
>>97942037i think they've retooled gotrek into being their guy, which to be honest is probably what most slayer fans wanted anyways
>>97940556>>97941702Lel I was wondering what that was about, I read the wfg version first but it made no sense
Is it true that the guy who did a lot of the 1e sculpts Aos, and more notably, the silver tower shit was responsible for the maggotkin refresh?
>>97942078you gotta be more specific
>>97942084I think he did stormcasts, I dunno much beyond that and silver tower.
>>97942078>>97942089Are you talking about maxime pastourel? I'm not seeing much indication that he worked on maggotkin, though he did do some hero sculpts for darkwater.
>>97942099Aw.
>>97942113Did they ever errata the chaos soulbound book?
>>97942113I mean it could be some other guy, idk, but I do know that maxime was involved with early stormcast. He's also famously the guy behind the dark imperium nurgle stuff in 40k, but imo the newest maggotkin are a bit of a step in a different direction, so it would surprise me if it was the same guy.
>>97942118I believe there was one a couple months after release.
>>97941757Fucken legend. Thanks mate.
>>97941942Be silent when grown-ups are talking, fool. Obviously I will want to know what his units do ahead of time instead of asking about literally everything on the day.
>>97942231>Obviously I will want to know what his units doAnd he will tell you as you play, this has been the way of things in the wargame for longer than you've been alive, retard.
>>97942232I've been playing since 5th ed WFB dipshit, and whether through notes, photocopies, or free access to warscrolls via GW, everyone that I've ever played with who was worth a pinch of shit maintained a decent working understanding of what can be brought to bear. It's even more important in tourneys where time is of the essence. So thanks for the useless advice which was the opposite of what I was looking for and was obviously based on your own hapless, inert and disruptive style of play. Somebody already helped me out so feel free to STFU and waste somebody else's time. Have a great day.
>>97939560Auric hearthguard, flameseekers, wardens and sentinels is also kind of a weird lineup. Even if you specifically only wanted to limit things to fyreslayers and lumineth, why these guys? Hearthguard will give you some damage dealers I guess. But yeah idk would've rather seen some dawnriders, some kharadron, idk bring back 2e CoS coalitionkino
>>97942218i have nearly everything, m8.
>>97942258>I've been playing since 5th ed WFB no, you haven't, or you wouldn't be surprised at rules not being freely available without "uproar", and you would know that getting to know your opponent's army as he plays it doesn't take time and is the natural process of things and has been all along.>but what if I wanna waacfag at a tournament?go jump off a bridge, cuck
>>97942271Rules being freely available was one of the draws of early aos, if he stopped playing around 2nd then that would rightfully be surprising to him.
>>97941972The start collecting FS box was $120, a Droth by itself is $120 in most stores I've seen, $150 from James
>>97939560i'll never build a multi-racial army again becuase i've been burned too many times, this new GW team is too callous and quick to obliterate armies built around mixed forces, allies, coalitions, etclethisian defenders, living cities, mixed chaos warriors and tzeentch, all armies i've had blown apart at a whim by GW since the aos team is completely willing to just destroy any support for peoples armies at the drop of a hat
>>97942347The kharadron start collecting was insanely good too. The same as the current spearhead, except with the hero switched out (and for like half the price)
>>97942261I think the idea is that it's only giving you the most basic melee/range units available from each army. So your Cities armies can't draft Dwarf Berserkers or Elven Swordmasters, but they do have access to the militia equivalents from both armies.
>>97942465but the hearthguard are not the "most basic" fyreslayer unit, they're a 5 man elite. Vulkite berzerkers are the standard footslogger fyreslzyer unit
>>97942485>Auric Hearthguard are the shooty guys, not to be confused with Hearthguard Berserkers. And they're the only dedicated Fyreslayer shooting unit>Vulkite berzerkers are the standard footslogger fyreslzyer unitLongstanding rumors suggests Vulkites are being squatted, and judging from this new rumor the Vulkyn Warcry guys will take their place. Ruleswise the Vulkyns have just been better Vulkites for two editions now anyway.
>>97942496I was kind of assuming vulkites were getting a replacement, I know vulkyn are kind of that but they feel a bit too specific (on account of being a warcry warband) to really count as the most basic infantry of a whole (soon to be sub-)faction
Where would a piano fit in the best? Cities? Khadrons? I’d probably default it to slaanesh but their current look doesn’t fit even if they would probably have the best musicians.
>>97942530Considering the merge happening with Fyreslayers I can see Vulkites not being replaced. There's inevitably going to be new basic dwarf units added to the army, and Fyreslayers as a subfaction have room to go a bit more elite instead of needing to fill every role themselves. I'd rather see new elite Fyreslayer units added than a Vulkite refresh anyway, personally.
>>97942545I suppose that makes sense, yeah. >I'd rather see new elite Fyreslayer units added than a Vulkite refresh anyway, personally.I was thinking it'd be more like a spiritual successor rather than a straightforward simple refresh. Like what annihilators are to paladins in stormcast.
>>97942542hedonites probably, they already have a harp
>>97942542I feel like kharadrons are closest in approximate time period
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/duqtqeo3/community-painters-enter-the-city-of-ash/Why would they post this? These paint jobs are trash.
>>97941757Been looking for Stormcast for a while, bless you!
>>97942683The idea is to give you an overview of how these minis will look like when painted up by normal hobbyists (tbf guys like venturella aren't your run if the mill painter either, but y'know in general) instead of eavy metal. Like to show what realistically these things are going to look like on most people's tables.Though yeah sometimes you get some absolute stinkers, I remember some of the gitmob showcases were especially bad. Literally just a (shitty) basecoat or something like that.
>>97938463Apparently soulbound development is a fucking mess behind the scenes. The guy in charge got in a standoff with management over some salary disputes or shit like that and that's why the coc book was delayed so much, several other projects were scrapped too, lots of bullshit
>>97942683>tranime troon post yours
>>97942683Providing a variety of paintjobs that showcase different skill levels is good actually
>>97942683some of these aren't great but none are trash, you're a fag
>>97942783Yeah, I've heard some other RPG writers like Greame Davies don't like the C7 management team, so other writers disliking them doesn't surprise me
>>97942683they've gotten into the habit of posting more everyman level paintjobs the last few years alongside the more accomplished painters in articles, so it showcases a more broad range of skill levels and not just the best of the besti think its a good thing to show more average skill painters as a focus on the webstore because it can help alleviate some of the "i'll never be able to do that" attitude that often plagues newer hobbyists. by seeing stuff thats more at their skill level, it makes it feel less unapproachable. its something they used to do back in the 90s and early 00s too, showcasing regular skill level painters occasionally in white dwarf, but stopped doing later on in the late 00s and early '10s where everything became 100% golden demon and eavy metal focused because they wanted everything to be a picture perfect marketing release, which was fundamentally at odds with the soul of the hobby.
>>97942906Semi-related to this discussion but I feel like the average "my first mini!" quality has gone up significantly in the last 10 years. Probably mostly due to youtube tutorials etc being very accessible nowadays, if I had to guess.
>>97942934its definitely easier to get access to tutorials, and in video form those tutorials make sense more easily than the old citadel how to paint books i started with back in '03 when i first got into warhammer.you do still see the occasional new model just globbed in 2 colors, but if a new painter has any incling to google how to paint a miniature before they actually put brush to model, they will stumble on hobby cheating or duncans vids or any of the number of dedicated tutorial channels which lets them avoid a lot of the early pitfalls older warhammer painters grew up with.also worth a shout out, miniature paint is available in a lot more brands now and MUCH higher quality. i think back to when i first started and it was like citadel or testors enamels were the only two options in my area, and the only store that even stocked paints at all was a model train and RC car shop. now you're spoiled for choice on high quality paint and product brands and all are thoroughly reviewed too by the various content creators.
