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>>97942406all fucking clanners must fucking die. so we can free the scientists and labourers and take all the clantech and clan factories.and also, you know, end the vile soulless flesh golems for ever more.you know what? clanners are just the fucking borg. they're a zombie plague.
>>97942444unfortunately, steiners now have the best crusader. not blessed DCMS.
Clan Nova Cat warrior and Manei Domini precentor go out for drinks (Colorized, 3088)
>>97942480Lyrans are a Balkanized failed state, nothing they have is of value
>>97942503oh yeah? have you SEEN how pissing hot the new crusader from them is?
What makes a clan mech a 2nd line mech? I was thinking of this as I play with the kingfisher, vapor eagle, and omen. They are super solid mechs and don't see why they would not be considered good mounts for a clanner.Also something I noticed. For being the aerospace clan, does not look like they really designed aerospace fighters most clan fighters were designed by other clans.
>>97942444Honor!
>>97942511Not 'hot' enough to put Humpty-Dumpty together again, or there wouldn't be a Hinterlands
>>97942511>two tons of SSRM ammo for just two launchers and FOUR tons of artemis IV LRMs for two 15 tube launchersDid the person who designed this playtest it in MWO?
>>97942515Clanners society lionizing competitiveness and where "up or out" is a toxic cultural trait that sees unspectacular competency as shameful means that riding in anything less than the best is a statement about your worth.
>>97942515Kingfisher isn't second line. It was popular and common among Clan Ghost Bear during REVIVAL. An old omni will tend to eventually be distributed among garrisons which explains its presence in second-line forces as newer designs came to the forefront.Vapor Eagle was a specialized dueling mech, which was strike one, and strikes two and three are being a battlemech. The fact they're good or not doesn't make them Omnis; which are almost strictly preferred for all leading-edge Clan forces.The Omen-- say it with me now-- was issued to garrison forces because it was a battlemech. It was designed specifically to bolster those forces.
>>97942608>>97942599You know, I did not even think about the Battlemech vs Omnimech. Makes a ton of sense in that context. Right I am dumb.
>>97942406newfag heresome guy mentioned "aces" last threadis that some way to play bt solo?
>>97942663I was that guy. Yeah, it's intended for Alpha Strike but you can really make it work for Classic with pretty much zero effort. Stuff for it is in the Aces: Scouring Sands box.
>>97942437What mech is that?
>>97942741thanks, sounds exactly like what I want.
>>97942741>>97942813I think I found it, it's just called "Battletech Aces rulebook" right?
>>97942826That's the rulebook that tells you how to use the cards, but it also requires about a hundred cards, picrel. They tell you how units move and shoot.
>>97942515I found out that the majority of 2nd line mechs are far superior to what Clan Forces usually use.
>>97943124Ah, I see. Well someone added the cards to a tabletop simulator mod so I'll try it there.
>>97942599> Clanners society lionizing competitiveness and where "up or out" is a toxic cultural trait-and is likely why during and after project revival, the clans had such an epidemic of Clanners “going native” and defecting to the inner sphere.Kinda makes one wonder what the clan’s holdouts do to distract themselves from problematic thoughts like: “are WE the problem?”. I suppose an upbringing that discourages things like “insight” and “self awareness” can help in a lot of cases.
>>97943244>upbringingClanners were bred to be retarded by the science caste
>>97943254Ah! But some are still smart enough to see recognize that they are in a toxic community and leave.
It's strange how little they mention the fact Malvina Hazen has a cybernetic arm. Even Sarna doesn't mention it. It's talked about in Bonfire of Worlds and Children of Kerensky but beyond that I've never seen it brought up.
>>97943272>>97943244Clan society is based actuallyI love upper caste warrior mommys
Wish there were more blank spots in the Solaris champions list for /yourdudes/ to fill in.
>>97943292Well, when one is dealing with a ‘roided-out psycho-bitch, it’s easy to forget little details like that.
>>97943292She does? Page number? I might need to update Sarna with this info.
Blerrgghh
Speaking of Clan stuff. What are the Clan support vehicles? Starting a new ATB as Raven Alliance, but unsure of a straight up clan support network for their technicians or if they just use regular flat beds.
>>97943254What is funny then is the Merchants being the only ones to successfully take over a clan compared to the supposed smart ones.
I need pictures of mechwarriors in their ceremonial garb (coolant vest and short shorts) por favor
>>97943292I had no idea???
>>97943292>>97943314>>97943535Never even heard of it. I suppose when fully functional prosthetics are available being an amputee is no big deal.
>>97943292It's not a huge deal, it was established early on in the lore that clanners would rather just chop off injured limbs and replace them with equivalent cybernetics rather than wait for the lengthy process of creating and grafting on clone limbs.
>>97942480The best crusader is the 2R
>>97943556>I suppose when fully functional prosthetics are availableGoing by the equipment availability for Mechwarrior in TRO 3026, that never even became lostech, just expensive if you wanted a full myomer limb rebuild.
>>97943569Wasnt there also a stigma against cybernetics though? I know FWL had that, but thought Clanners also did.
>>97943311>>97943314>>97943535>>97943556>>97943569In Children of kerensky she challenges a Jade Falcon to a Trial of Grievance after a prison riot gets warriors killed, and during the fight she blocks his knife with her prosthetic arm, the blade cuts slightly into her artificial myomer muscles.
>>97943647No, they only have a stigma against performance enhancing cybernetics. They prefer medical cybernetics over other solutions because they're quick and easy to recover from.The FWL stigma is also mostly only for performance enhancing cybernetics, although it depends by culture.
>>97942437>>97942761What color scheme should I use for my glorious falcon mech?
>>97943664The FWL stigma is cybernetics in general because of Gerald Marik and Elise Marik.
>>97943683Lambda Galaxy.
>>97943683Raven Alliance Beta Galaxy
>>97943292I never liked how they tried to treat Hazen as some sort of threat on par with the Master when she so clearly just...isn't.
>>97943721I never liked Hazen glazing in general
>>97943683Peregrine Galaxy is the best colour scheme for JFs.
Everything I can see about Snow Raven colour schemes is that they include lots of white and blue but have we ever seen a canon bit of coloured artwork involving SRaven mechs?
hurrgghhh~
>>97943766Snow Raven's Beta Galaxy. IlKhan's Eyes Only, page 154.
>>97943815Not my favorite of your pieces, but I dig the Slaanesh-adjacent colors (needs some gold).
>>97943860>Not my favorite of your piecesFUCK you
>>97942437Sexy. Im ready for the claw.
>>97943860y-you have a favourite?
>>97943683Neon-Green + gold trims.
How will Alaric Ward die? Assassin, Trial-gone-wrong, glorious combat, in his sleep, turbo-cancer?
>>97943683Pink and white lol? Alpha Galaxy? picrel
>>97943889A running battle between your Marauder and King Crab.>>97943877What a waste of dubs, squandered on a childish tantrum.
>>97943742What book is this? Was thinking of painting the Peregrine in Nicky Malthus color, but by the look of pic they are more grey than red then
>>97943933Battle of Tukayyid
Had a game today.Heavy IS lance against my WoB assault understrength lv2.He had all guys with skill 1-2, I had one with skill 3. It was kinda close one but my opponent is rly fixed on killing my dudes instead of doing mission plus his bad positioning gave me upper edge, this plus him fumbling 2 key salvos that did saved my mechs.Lots of fun but also very nerve wracking.
>>97943742Claniggas stealing my Dragon's Fury color scheme >:(
>>97943943Looks fun. Nice to see another WoB player :)
>>97943683black and gold
>>97943900Hopefully Snow Fire'd in his sleep by one of his rape victims.
>>97942552its designed as if it were 'real' for people to take on actual operations etc.
>>97943943We played 250pt, king of the hill. If he was little bit more focused and aggressive I think he could win or at least have closer game.>>97943956Thx. Rly like to paint them.
>>97943943>but my opponent is rly fixed on killing my dudes instead of doing missionMurderhobos are easy to bait into botching objectives, they're the player equivalent of foot fetishists.
>>97943999I managed to flank him with ac Victor and heat warhammer, put some heat on his thunderbolt and even scored engine crit but this didnt phase him at all and he continued blasting instead of cooling down and next turn he shut down.
>>97943244I'd imagine that Sea Fox diverts a lot of what would otherwise be solahma mechwarriors into mercenary work to infiltrate and exert influence over merc companies.
In Adeptus Aitanicus one can play a Knight Household, which is an army made up entirely of Knights and Armigers. Could one make an army entirely of Protomechs in Battletech? I think it might be an interesting thing to try, though it may be a little dull to fight for my opponent.
>>97944098Yes, protomechs are fun, and have interesting strategies
>>97943840Based. Thanks anon, now I've canon colours to follow.
>>97944098Easy enough, if you think of a full star of proto's is 25 of them.
>>97944098>Could one make an army entirely of Protomechs in Battletech?Could? Yes. Should? Whole different question.
>>97944098No reason you can't run a full star of protos. It's not as bad as spamming vtols or hover craft due to how their initiative works, but moving and firing 25 units every turn will turn into a drag real quick
>>97944098Thanks to Hell's Horses and the Society we've got super light all the way up to ultraheavy Protomechs meaning on can form a battleline and hold it, flank, skirmish and so on with the various forms of Protomechs. Would it be strong? Likely not, but it could be quite an interesting and fun force to play.
>>97944112Feel free to bend the canon colors a little bit. The official unit description says “teal” but the art almost always trends toward turquoise instead. I like teal more so that’s just what I go with.
>>97944121>but moving and firing 25 units every turn will turn into a drag real quickThe fuck kinda "I'm a Gen Alpha cunt with no attention span" shit is this?!
>>97944144Sandbagging games is a cunt move regardless of age group.
>>97944139Looks good anon! I'm always a big fan of the "space ship faction" and big stompy robots so Snow Ravens really appeal to me lol
>>97944144I love big ass fights with multiple lances. But it is why I only do this sort of stuff on Megamek, because so much book keeping unless I play gen alpha strike, which I dont want to play that.
>>97944098Ngl, this probably work a load better in Alpha Strike. Might even be fun there.
>>97944139>>97943840>>97943766Do we have anymore good examples of the color schemes of the Ravens and the Alliance as well? Any unit combine the two together?
>>97944222
>>97944280Oh purple and gray with green windows. Pretty.
>>97944280Hard to say if this is a canon scheme for the entire Fifth Raven Wing or just the custom colors of a Clan's Khan
>>97944222hmm
>>97944307Right, I saw this and just fell in love with the color scheme right away. Probably one of my favorites now. >>97944314>>97944319>>97944280I am starting to lean into the Ravens are probably going to be my favorite clan that is still around. So good to take a gander here.
>>97944353Same. I only really gave 'em a look lately but I'm growing to love them
>>97943900During the glorious combat of a trial gone wrong, his turbo-cancer acted up, making him fall asleep and allowing an assassin to kill him.
>>97944399Peak.
>>97944383It helps that I am in the minority who loves ship combat stuff as well. So Ravens being a faction that also has that is good. I think they are only missing one of the phenotypes now that I think about it, the Vehicle warrior. So it is interesting from a genetic standpoint as well that they have access to this stuff. Plus Proto's being good in ship boarding is also there.
>>97944436I love Snow Ravens because they're basically the Homeworld kiithid + Giant Stompy Robots and I think that's kino
>>97944098Being lore accurate, this would be the only real way to play the Society. I'm sure someone has done it.
>>97943943>>97944069That board looks nice. The aquarium decoration trees are cute>>97944139That stormcrow config fucks
Really enjoyed painting Goliath Scorpion, it's a shame they don't show up in the story all that often even after making the Scorpion Empire.
I painted a little spider today
>>9794390025 years after the events of “Hungry like the Wolf” Alaric’s bastard son will come barreling into the inner sphere and bringing with him a scale of warfare and wanton destruction not seen since the first succession war. Ultimately culminating in a big final battle where Alaric and his son kill each other.
I wish to challenge Randall Bills to a Trial of Refusal against the Trial of Annihilation declared against Clan Steel Viper.
>>97944545We know the 3rd Star League endures at least 100 years so Alaric's death won't cause it's collapse, or at least no directly and instantly.
>>97944307How does the Rifleman IIC fare?
PURE SOVL KINOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrMOLvPJ0Pg
>>97944551> We know the 3rd Star League endures at least 100 yearsHow do we know that?
>>97944554Rifleman best boy in every erat. Jimmy Clavell
>>97944564> Rifleman best boy in every era-as long as it’s hooked up to an external coolant tank and ammo feed.
>>97944560>How do we know that?We've known it for literally 7 fucking years?
>>97944571Tell that to Graham Noton
>>97944578>fellating the coward Kerensky for half a millenniumClanners are such trash
>>97944551>>97944560Nah they said that was when they were thinking about another timeskip but they're not going to do it now
>>97944681Look at the date on >>97944578 pic, it's already baked into the setting
>>97944681Are you retarded?
>>97944749To be fair, CGL is a bad enough company that this could be the case still.
>>97944728>>97944749https://www.youtube.com/live/Jt9pznszGPI?t=27742&si=C46xHkQo62tKsylc
>>97944807>9 July 3250Print don't lie, 3SL is sticking around after Alaric's tweaker ass gets cremated
Here’s a hypothetical:Suppose you are a resident of the DC, no, you’re not a noble, nor a warrior, or even a DCMS enlisted. You’re just some schlub that needs a job. So you apply to work security for some company or another. Like normal security for an office building, shopping mall, industrial plant, something like that. So your training and expectations are that you show up with a Walkie-talkie, a heavy flashlight, maybe a tazer, probably not. And you sit at a security desk watching monitors or sometimes patrolling the grounds, maybe even drive a golf cart or Segway if it’s a larger facility. Really all you’re doing is chasing off hoodlums or calling the police if something serious comes up.Well after a month or two, something comes up at work from up top, and because you are among the “new guys” you get reassigned.Next thing you know you’re in the cockpit of a battlemech, fighting some rotating list of Lyrans, FedSuns, Pirates, and Clanners after only getting the most basic crash-course in how to pilot this thing. Because the head of the Zaibatsu family that owns the company that initially hired you wants to go play “Draconis Warlord”. I mean, you are being compensated, but it’s not what you were hired for.So… how are you holding up? How would you be handling the sudden career shift?
>>97944859Am I in a Ghost regiment? Because that's the only way that situation would play out in the Combine,
>>97944854>What are Surrender Your Dreams and other retconned books
>>97944859Probably a pretty substantial increase in pay, and definitely a step up from a social standing perspective. Definitely gonna be stressful, but I figure the perks balance out the increased chance of getting greased by a fedrat. >>97944888Corpos can private mech forces in the combine too, that's what the alag started as.
>>97944894>retconning a TROThings That Do Not Happen: The Anime
>>97944902The ALAG hasn't been that since Jinjiro Kurita, and name me three private militaries in Combine space. I'll wait.
How come there's no clan that's a bug?
>>97944938Goliath Scorpion is bug-adjacent
>>97944938Is clan burrock and clan Goliath Scorpion just a joke to you?
>>97944942>>97944939I dunno what a burrock is and scorpions aren't cute I meant like picrel
>>97944907TROs get retconned all the time. What are you talking about?
>>97944494Thx.
>>97944953Clan Pillbug fell afoul of Clan Widowmaker
>>97944938How to tell us you have not done research on the clans without telling us you have not even looked.Challenge: Easy
>>97944958Name a time an in-universe testimonial in a TRO has been changed
>>97944578Strictly speaking that indicates an entity calling itself the Star League exists in 3250 and is lead by an IlKhan. Without additional context it could very well be a rump state unrecognized by anyone outside its territory. >>97944681>>97944854>>97944894>>97944907Ultimately the issue isn't a timeskip in and of itself, it's having sufficient thought put into it so that the internal logic doesn't have issues. Even if the string of events themselves are just a list of bullet points they have to make a sensible narrative.
>>97944494I love any Stormcrow but the B has a sort of fear factor that the others don’t match. A 6/9/0 Ultra-AC/20 is a shit-your-pants threat if you aren’t prepared for it.
>>97945010Fair point, I'm willing to be surprised>>97945015Based
>>97944953> I dunno what a burrock isIt’s an alien species of giant, rock-boring centipede.And generally speaking, no clan is going to choose a pill bug as a totem animal. Or really any “cutesy” animal of any type because the Clans are, ostensibly, a collection of self-important biker gangs that traded their hogs in for giant robots. They are going to pick animals that are either vicious, cunning, or both, as their symbol. And a little shell-bug that doesn’t bother anyone and curls into an armored ball when threatened is none of those things.
>>97944911This comes from Battletech: Universe, and while it doesn’t explicitly say it, it does imply that the idea of a corporation having its own private military is not unreasonable.But it does beg the question of why you feel the need to be a killjoy? Why piss on a fun concept that isn’t really all that far-fetched?
>>97945159>The Thumpers formed in 3023 as a demonstration unit for Defiance Industries to showcase their company's assault 'Mechs.
>>97945159Irian Technologies corporate security have their own RAT.
>>97945115Well, what about a cat then? Cats are cute.
>>97945010I've been under the impression they most likely just going to do the whole "Unreliable Narrator" aspect and just sweep it under the rug.
>>97945115but the mongoose is cute though
Why did the First Division get hunted down by the RotS?
>>97945159Because a society like the DC isn't going to let petty businesses build armies outside the purview of the Dragon's gaze. It's not like the Lyrans or the FWL where families and corpos are allowed to build armies on their dime.
>Ok, guys. The clans have been in the IS for over 100 years>yeah>and we have plenty of examples of their tech on hand to learn from and copy>yeah>so let's use our vast industrial base to make clan spec stuff on the cheap!>no
>>97945277Good thing we're talking about zaibatsu mega corps and not 'petty businesses'
>>97945344Live high, live true, live Zaibatsu
>>97945294You know it's amazing how I can just tell now when people have never opened Campaign Ops. There's just this perpetual cloud of ignorance that follows them around and makes them say really stupid shit.
>>97945344All of which are sublimated beneath the Combine Pillar of Jade. Zaibatsu don't build private militaries that are separate from that. The DC is not the kind of place where a corp, no matter how large, could accumulate enough might to potentially resist Combine authority, it's why LAW doesn't have an army and why Teddy K had to cut deals with ComStar for off-the-books 'mechs and deals with yakuza to fill them. Fast forward to IlClan and Yori K is having to build a loyal regiment completely on the sly instead of just assuming control of Nissan's private military, because Nissan doesn't fucking have one, and neither does anyone else.
>>97945225> Well, what about a cat then? Cats are cute.Jaguars are not cute. Jaguars are vicious predators that are South America’s apex predator for good reason.And if the Nova Cat is, as I suspect, comparable to Earth’s Bobcat; then while it may be friend-shaped, it is not friend-ly. It is, in fact, a cunning predator and if you go in to give one a hug, it will try to kill you, and I can’t guarantee that you’ll have a face afterwards.>>97945250Mongoose also hunts and eats cobras and other venomous snakes, which is pretty metal. Though I will admit that the mongoose is adorable. Incidentally, how IS clan mongoose doing nowadays?>>97945277Like hell they wouldn’t. Do you really think a shrewd leader like the Kuritas are going to just rid themselves of an entire collection of various military units that can act independently of the DCMS and that they can legally disavow if necessary and one their rivals make use of regularly, just because of some ideological quibble? No! The only thing the DC is going to be doing differently is the mental gymnastics to justify it.
>>97945467>Do you really think a shrewd leader like the Kuritas are going to just rid themselves of an entire collection of various military units that can act independently of the DCMS and that they can legally disavow if necessaryThey did that once with the Chain Gangs, and it burned them. Moreover, the Kuritas remember what happened to ancient Japan that led to the Sengoku Jidai, so no, I absolutely do not believe the would allow it, and the in-universe absence of any such forces suggests I'm correct in my stance.
One day we will get new artwork for Proto's to match what we got in the Wars of Reaving. One day.
>>97945601>Wars of ReavingI harbor personal dread about them visiting that time period, if only because I cling to the slimmest thread of hope that my Clan escaped Annihilation by virtue of the particular absence of a recorded destruction.
>>97945622Better the thing you love dies early, the alternative is inevitably them making it lame and gay.
Clan CatClan PuppyClan Frog and ToadClan BumblebeeClan Velociraptor
>>97945622I suppose I could make the same argument that somehow the Blood Spirits survived and fled. But that is probably never happening.
>>97945622>>97945649The lame and gay was writing the Wars of Reaving in the first place. The OG Dark Age mystery was nobody had heard from the homeworlds since the Jihad and the clanners just would not fucking talk about it. They ruined one of the biggest mysteries of the DA back when by publishing it.
>>97945657If they kept the Smoke Jaguars alive, then anyone could be.
>>97945601Love the Society, simple as.
>>97945661If I am being honest, the Wars of Reaving were pretty good. Though honestly what should have happened is the clans should have started to try to come into the IS in mass. If only to help solve the basic numbers problems that the Clans suffer from cause FASFA math
>>97944859That seems a very big shift. There are enough dispossessed warriors that there would be people lined up at the chance to get back in the cockpit with far more experience, and training to be put into the cockpit of a mech requires a lot more effort than just falling upwards. That'd be more of a "The Russians are at the gates of Berlin" type situation, where for whatever reason they *can't* find anyone suited to the role so they find any meat for the seat.
>>97945668Wanted the Smoke Jaguars to return via the Fiefdom of Randis over whatever they are supposed to be now. Unsure if we can even consider them actual SJs
>Just got like 400 metal minis for $1300 buckaroonies, all the way to FCCW shit.Today was a good day.
>>97945748FoR is a long way from the SJ occupation zone, it'd be a tough journey through the Combine and the OWA to get there.
>>97945748>Unsure if we can even consider them actual SJsIf you ever read Surrender Your Dreams, that wouldn't even be a question. The answer to that question is no
>>97945765From the plotline that got dropped, you have Grand Knight who was a smoke Jaguar, then a bunch more Smoke Jaguars keep showing up, they have not officially joined. How many did we never get told but enough that they were rumored to be a part of the third Regiment they were building. So yeah, that was the plotline I was talking about
>>97945622Yeah, they systematically killed off all the clans that I really liked, and so did the Ilclan period kill off the Falcons more or less, the last of the clans I was sort of into that was still alive. The surviving clans were locked away into irrelevance anyway.On the plus side, the Snow Ravens were given some mechs to make them actually stand out on the ground maps as more than another blind assortment of the 3050s omnis.I'm ok with still running clans with BMR-vintage tech though. It's not a significant handicap to not have Laser AMS and specialty armor.One day I'd like to make a society force to try out their unique mechs. I'd have to reread the sourcebook to figure out what kind of paint schemes I'd need.
>>97945759Boy, there's an old-ass meme.
>>97945778>what kind of paint schemes I'd need.Fun fact, Society mostly used weird UV and IR markers on regular clan markings, so you couldn't tell them apart in normal combat.
>>97945780You think FD will grace us with his presence again now that he's looking for work? I miss the old boy.
>>97945783He's been dumping pics on his Deviantart lately, most too large to even post ITT
>>97944859its the DC, you get a vest and a subgun too.
>>97945159it's contrarian-anon.
Finally happy with most of the pinks, time to pop the backpack off and paint all that jazz
>>97945871t. contrarian-anon
I think it's pretty :3
>go on drive to experience nature >see this>contemplate map with a 20 level deep canyon running through it
>>97945919Wasn't that what got the Falcon Guards buried in on Twycross?
>>97945922Well I didn't see any mech limbs sticking out so it wasn't this one at least.
>>97945930Well, lay some bombs, see what comes wandering in, and bait them with a batchall until the bombs go off.
>>97945783Hes still being employed by CGL as a contractual hire.
>>97945919Admittedly, the mapsheets as they are try to emulate natural features like these, but because of scale and playability end up sorely underscaling the terrain. "Mountains" that barely count as hills and canyons little more than a ditch.The best way to handle it would be with oversized mapsheets, I think.
>>97946070Some of the maps are absolute bastards, like that one in the Tukkayid pack that squeezes you into a killzone as you try to close the distance.
>>97945916Contrarian-anon isn't here yet because he hasn't posted the same mono mech lances he's been posting for years
>>97946070As usual, ignoring the official scale of the map sheets makes for a more reasonable experience
How would you fix the introtech Chameleon?
>>97945010>Strictly speaking that indicates an entity calling itself the Star League exists in 3250 and is lead by an IlKhan. Without additional context it could very well be a rump state unrecognized by anyone outside its territory.You ARE retarded. Got it.
Clan Smoke Jaguar was my first ever Battletech love. They're what got me into the setting. When the time comes to paint up an IlClan force, I'll be painting Smoke Jaguars.
>>97946344>When the time comes to paint up an IlClan force, I'll be painting Smoke Jaguars.Who wants to tell him the happy news?
>>97946259that's not contrarian-anon, that would be me.
>>97946408t. contrarian-anon
>>97946418unlike him, i actually like battletech, silly. CA hates everything bt and wants even btg to not be a thing.
>>97946316>falcon checks outt. falconfag on spectrum.Where is Star Adder?
>>97946444Considering you actively engage with shitposters and argue with them over petty shit, you and contrarian-anon are one in the same
>>97946455Omitted for some reason, but the not-Clan Stone Lions are there instead
Help me out picking up new force.I have:Falcons, green paintjob. Mechs, BA and some vtols.WoB, white. Combined Arms.Im looking for IS(lance) force I could use that would be distinct gameplay wise.Im looking at Duchy of Andurien because I like that paint scheme but its just white/green and I think it's too similar to my other two.Preferably someone existing in Ilclan era.
>>97946483Might I suggest the 3rd An Ting Legion of the DCMS, freshly rebuilt after the Dark Age and quite active in the IlClan era?
>>97946459ok, keep doubling down on your faggotry after being caught out as dead wrong. again.
>>97946514I really like how the Griffin came out.
>>97946483all tanks.get two boxes of the battle and fire lances packs.4 vedette (armour)4 manticore (xl)8 LRM carrier C - 8 SRM carrier Cstomp those robot jocks out with superior tank goodness. then 'your dudes' can be a merc outfit of tankers who have massive chips on their shoulders about how snooty them mechwarriors get. bonus points if you put them into contracts where they are providing support to infantry and BA and so on local forces to murderise filthy mechwarr- i mean, clanners,...and steal all their shit, of course.come to think of it, how much profit would a merc outfit make if it didn't actually use mechs at all and just sold off all that sweet sweet salvage instead for parts etc.?
>>97946514Prove it then, mister equidistant. Prove you are not contrarian-anon.
>>97946520the 'giraffe' camo paint scheme turned out rather nicely on these ones.anon just hates that i like certain mechs so much I bought multiples. now i can run games for newbs and shit where everyone has the exact same lance so no one feels like they're getting the short end of the stick and shit.
>>97946529>prove a negativelol, look at this midwit.
>>97946527>how much profit would a merc outfit make if it didn't actually use mechs at allNot as much as you'd think, given you'll have a rough time getting hired at all or, even worse, deliberately hired under the expectation you'll be curbstomped so hard you won't live long enough to get paid
>>97946535I accept your concession.
>>97946544oh, i get it. you ARE contrarian anon, being a shitposting faggot troll. again.
>>97946532Am I the only one who really hates the jump plumes?
>>97946539nah, check the actual tanks i mentioned, veddette armour is really nice, manticore xl is even better and the lrm/srm C carriers are way way better than the basic
>>97946546Don't project your contrariness onto me Nuln
>>97946550i wonder. if they did the vernier jet thing and a clear stand, they'd probably get sued by those GW faggits. or harmony gold. it might be a 'legally distinct' thing that bt JJ's make giant smoke plumes
>>97946552All I see is a pack of failed motive checks waiting to happen and a Marik Captain-General getting stepped on by a Mackie
>>97946555so you yourself admit i am 'nuln' and not CA. congratulations on your loss. very unsportsmanlike. you dumb cunt.
>>97946566>you are the same person>yet you call me by my first name, curiousOk Chris.
>>97946562No clue. but in a game where LOS is a thing it was even a bad idea in concept. I'm not looking forward to eventually performing surgery on my Elemental bases because of them.
>>97946532>now i can run games for newbsI don't really think mono lances are good for teaching new players.
>>97946585you're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?4 of the same packs is four of the same lance/ star
>>97946595How are you going to be teaching a new player proper heat management when you give them a lance of Griffin 3M's or Hunchback C's?
>>97946607because i'm not. dumbass.they will each have a lance of bnc-3s. tdr-5se. grf-3m. wlf-1.etc.fuck me. you leftists love playing the 'pretending to not understand things in order to make discourse impossible' card.
>>97946641NTA but it is a tad confusing when you painted them like mono lances, might have been wiser to paint one of each mech in each scheme, not all four of each in the same
>>97946641>"leftists pretending not to understand" memeYou are being asked to explain your reasoning when you do or say something fucking stupid, you dense motherfucker.
>>97946641Why do you always talk like some joyless, miserable bastard whenever someone tries to engage with you?
>>97946550You are not. It takes an above average painting skill level to make smoke plumes not look terrible, and even when well executed I still don't like them.
>>97946646because I want them to look like that.
>>97946675sure thing, dumbass.
>>97946703Well, how have these learn-to-play games worked out then?
>>97946702That's fair. Good on you for putting in the teaching effort.
>>97946710meh, its only been a couple so far. its mostly a case of wanting to have the minis, than needing them and not having them.like you can't run the intro 'tutorial' style scenarios of 'this is how movement works' unless everyone actually has a griffin, so they all got a 5/8/5 and everyone has an atlas, so they can see just how 3/5 can be horribly outmanouvred. unless everyone has a BNC 3s, they can't run the 'this is how to learn about heat and how overheating works'its basically about having the same mech for everyone so they don't feel like you're shitting with them or something.
it also lets me do things that are memey and silly like mellee mechs lance
>>97946779Stops being as memey when you know the Scarabus has a CGL mini now
>>97946502Cappelans?>>97946527Tempting but I can do that with my WoB force .
>>97946859Draconis Combine
>>97946859i just love the vedette armour. because uac10 fucks
>>97944554Ive only used the Prime and the 7. Prime never enough sinks but its fine because your honor is equal to how high you let your heat level spike. The 7 is neat just because watching your opponent have to rethink his firing pattern every turn because you keep slapping him with 15 extra heat is funny. 3-3-2 is off the menu motherfucker were getting real honorable today.
For Clan BA Stars, do they typically have all 5 points the Same suit or do they mix? Working specifically with Clan Snow Raven right now. Unsure if I should do all 5 as Elementals then do an All stormbird etc etc.I know that Aero each pair typically will be the same fighter so wondering if this is a similar vein for them.As an aside, What would be the best way to transport my BA outside of Omnimechs? Just provide them some omni vehicles or are there a good VTOL for the Clans/Dropship
How would this little fella fair in Battletech?
>>97947129It's basically a Fireball with a full head ejection system.
>>97947116Same suits. Both fluff and how they are deployed by the game rules.
>>97947129>20 tons>approximately the right height, but oriented weirdly for some reason>fast as balls>armed with a machine gun, a laser cutter, and an SRM2would do decently as a scout. I guess because it's longer than it is tall we should class it as a quad?
>>97947283Game rules each suit in a point has to be the same, but the Star isn't actually a game concept at all unless you're using some kind of optional or homeruled formation rules.
>>97947371A quad seems reasonable. It's hard to find Zoids that wont completely wreck any lance or star. Only the early stuff could feasibly be put in the game without being monsters. It's also easy for many zoids to swap weapons, so their listed load outs are not all of them. And a lot of the early weapons do not have specific barrel sizes or are just generic beam or laser guns until later stuff gets specific. Plus, there are the variants which are even better. Might as well post the wiki page for some of em. Take this for example. Besides its Charge Particle Gun, most of it's weapons are pitiful by BT standards, but nothing is getting past that armor and the aforementioned gun is gonna one shot anything AND out range it since it was made to combat something that had quad 360mm cannons that could shoot for miles.
>>97947432Swapping weapons is easily represented by making them omnis. When importing stuff from another system, I tend to just find an equivalent in the system it's going to. Like, the charged particle gun you mentioned, just based on name, I would equate it to a PPC and not worry about representing its abilities in the franchise it's from once I adapt it to BT.
>>97947283As >>97947429I am wanting to know Star Construction. Yeah every suit in a point has to be the same, but lets say I do 3 points of Elementals then two Stormbirds as an example. Is this correct from a lore perspective?
>>97947456I don't think there's hard rules on it, but also, with how many clans are short of material and skilled troopers at various points in the story I doubt anyone would blink at a mixed star of Elementals and Stormbirds, long as the points are distinct.
>>97947451I get that, but the CPC is what it's built around, turning it into a generic PPC makes it dramatically less lethal. Yeah, its the closest thing BT might have to it, or some laser, but it can wipe out a city. That's why the earlier stuff fits more. Besides the insane speeds involved.
>>97947466Thanks, trying to be lore accurate as much as possible if I can.
>>97945871>>97945916>>97946259>>97946418O-kay… um, who the hell is “contrarian anon”? and why are anons acting so paranoid about him?
How tf is this guy less annoying than I am?
>>97947129>>97947432>Zoidsposting in btg as I am currently watching New Centurydamn what are the odds
>>97947649I am still pissed they canned the rebirth line.
Painting practice WIP GDL Regent.
>>97946344Have fun with you catstapo
>>97944139I love how clean your stuff is, can't help but feel some highlighting or shading on the dark parts would help them pop? Lil hard to see the head on the Vapor Eagle (?).>>97944517Those are sick, love the weathering and cockpits>>97944530Nice! Christmas colours! Cool cockpit. >>97944859I like em, some highlighting would go a long way<3
>>97946408>>97946444>>97946532>>97946779>>97946535I really don't like these. Those whites look terrible, they're definitely salvageable but I would start by going on and fixing every panel/tidying everything up. The wash is making them terribly muddy. Picrel.>>97946514These ones are good, I like.>>97947762Nice stuff anon, you gonna clean up that wash pooling later on? It's muddying some of the camo a fair bit.
>>97946779I'm actually going all in for that
Am I alone in thinking that the Combine, Cappellans, Lyrans, Taurians, and Canopus seem to have such big, meme-generating personalities that they, kinda drown-out all the other Inner Sphere factions?Like I know that I’m told that the FedSuns are “space Camelot”, and the FWL are a bunch of bickering minor states reminiscent of renaissance Italy, but when listening to Battletech YouTubers like science insanity, Sven van der Plank, Tex, mechfrog, Black Pants Legion, etc… or even come on here, they just kinda blend into the background.Like, I’m not kidding, I even wonder if “space Camelot” IS a fair take, and not just a personality grafted on by fans. but only because their entry in BT:Universe is so goddamn generic “good guy” that you can barely call it an identity, and honestly, they often feel more like an OpFor for the DC and CC than a distinct faction of their own.And the FWL is only somewhat better because they did get into a feud with ComStar in the 2nd succession war. And sometimes I hear stories that make it sound like house Marik is some put-upon cat-herder that is the only one taking the defense of the FWL seriously, and legally couldn’t step down even if they wanted to. (Which I like because it’s a humorous take). But, again, when covering major events they just come off like an OpFor in purple than a legitimate faction.But both are better than the Outworlds Alliance who… exist? Really they feel like they exist to be a punching bag.What are some good examples of these three actually presenting an actual personality we’re told they have in the lore? Showing some character? Because I’m struggling to find it myself.Because right now the goddamn Terran Hegemony has a more intriguing identity than either of them, and they’re just part of the backstory.
The Davion Man meme is the closest I have ever seen to an interesting and unique cultural identity for the Federated Suns.
>>97948540This sounds like a lack of familiarity on your part rather than any failing in the writing or lore. I hear plenty of jokes and talk about FWL and the FS.Periphery like the OA is always going to have less traction.
>>97948827Nah, he has a point, especially about Davion. FWL at least has a these constituent identities.
>>97948861I feel like I didn't imagine this whole self-righteous hypocrisy angle where "Davs are crusaders for the rights and liberation of their fellow man, so please excuse us for leveling the children's hospital it jumped into the line of fire." That's not counting the incest bits with the Lyrans.The only thing that tamps down some of the slander on Davion is they're sometimes trying to be "the good guys (tm)" which is more than can be said for most other Houses. It just makes it more obvious when they end up just doing Great House shit anyhow.
>>97948893>The only thing that tamps down some of the slander on Davion is they're sometimes trying to be "the good guys (tm)"As a front. The FedSuns formed from greed masquerading as mutual defense, one of the first things they did after establishment is pick a fight with the Taurians. They're the avatar of the "fair-weather friend" in the setting, just ask Kerensky when his buddy 'the honorable and upright' John Davion voted to strip him of the Protectorship instead of telling Robert Steiner to gobble his balls.
>>97942406Can I get a qrd on clans and why they hate contractions?
>>97949028The autistic heir to a guy had an Idea about how a perfect society should behave, and that included with speech patterns.
>>97949028They revere standardization and conformity to their interpretation of a fantasized and idealized Star League; including their official and formal language. Contractions are perverting the sacred words for personal convenience or implying the listener is not due proper respect.
>>97948540The Davion meme is that they are subhuman shorties. Only that it isn't a meme, but the word-of-god, highest canon reality according to a novel.
>>97949028Hundreds of years ago, there was a civil war that destroyed human unity across the settled galaxy. A large portion of the military of the crumbling unified government defected and disappeared. Turns out, they went to unexplored space and developed a new culture there called the Clans. The Clans built their whole society around genetically engineered warriors who interact through ritualized combat. About three hundred years after their ancestors disappeared from known space, the Clans returned as an invading force. They were initially unstoppable because they had managed to develop new technology, most notably the OmniMech. But the Inner Sphere powers banded together and defeated the invasion. Nonetheless, (some of) the Clans have been a permanent fixture of war and politics in the Inner Sphere ever since.They don’t use contractions because they think contractions are lazy and informal. However they do like neologism that condense two separate words into one (example: rising star becomes ristar).
>>97949044>>97949055Ah, so it's part of their weird take on how an ideal society should be.
Trying to think of an interesting place for the Spirit Cats and Dragon's Fury to fight over for my next campaign set in early/mid 3134. I'm not sure where it'll be set but it has to be somewhere important to the Republic or the Splinter Factions active in that year. The idea of the campaign is that the players have to choose a side and aid either the Cats, Republic or Fury in claiming something on said world for their chosen faction. Resources, manufacturing, a working HPG. Something important.Irian perhaps?
>>97949102Irian seems like an obvious choice for "Dark Age-era world with big battle fought over it" imo. Check out "Turning Points Irian"
>>97949078Clan culture is so artificial and rife with hypocrisy. Having to constantly consciously not use contractions is a good example of that.
what's with the love affair this general has had lately with the dark age? is this just a contrarian reaction CGL pushing the ilclan? lol
>>97949128>what's with the love affair this general has had lately with the dark age?Dark Age is cool.
>>97949128>is this just a contrarian reaction CGL pushing the ilclan?Yes
>>97949102Get them involved in the multi-year long resource war on Addicks.
So the inner sphere is big, but how big is the control of the big factions over it?Are there any planets that were like just forgotten by the big factions and just left to self-govern (or more likely, become a pirate den)?
>>97949175Read the lore.
>>97949175The Steiners are the champions of losing worlds by fiat, particularly former Rim Worlds Republic planets they took over during Operation Almaric, planets they lost to the Jade Falcons and never took back when the Falcons got creamed, and planets that seceded from the post-FedCom Steiners that are now rump states of their own and give no fucks about the Lyran state.
>>97949224Thank you for the explanation.>>97949196I am currently reading Battletech universe
>>97949102Agree with the other 2 anons. Addicks or Irian.
>>97942406Got any more pics of female elementals posing with their armor?
I was unaware Anastasia Kerensky looked like Yennefer.
>>97949128People are allowed to like things you don't, spaz.
>>97949128For me, I just love BattleTech and want to learn about and play in these derided eras (Jihad, Dark Age) as much ad any other. My current projects include the retaking of Hesperus II from WoB and an anti-RotS insurgency featuring industrial ‘Mechs. But I have also done an Amaris Civil War era project, see picrel.
>>97949413>But I have also done an Amaris Civil War era project, see picrel.The lack of Protomechs and Battle Armor always stopped me playing Star League era stuff despite liking the storyline of that period :(
>>97949413For me, there's DA factions I hate more than any other in the franchise, but it's nice to be able to talk about an era that other people rarely know about in detail. A good conversation on anything past 3100 and all the lore bits of how it worked is just refreshing. Also, if anything, since ilClan is just DA Part 3, liking it would be CGL dicksucking, not contrarian to them IMO.
>>97948018Fuck yes. Melee master ?
>>97948018Oh, that new scarabus sculpt is pretty neato. Makes me want to repose one of the old metal ones I have laying around.
>>97947432>>97947451>>97947649SARATH.For literally all your zoid needs.
>>97949451The fuck is that?
>>97949455Apex Regulan engineering.
>>97949421>crippled by the absence of fringe tech toysWhat did you even do with yourself during the Succession Wars?
>>97949463Trying Too Hard
>>97949421There was always been references to combat robots and drones that in theory fit a similar role but we've never really given proper rules for them unless you count the RPG.
>>97949413Same. Neat story and lore, but Star League-era games always seem pretty dull to me. No cool tech, Protos, BA, Weird Mechs like Celestials or Cephalus and so on.
>>97949484Meant for >>97949421
>>97949484You forget the exceedingly dull force comps with standard full battalions of single chassis.
>>97949421I used it as opportunity to add conventional vehicles to our games from the Mercs KSPreviously we had only played both CBT and AS with ‘MechsAnother project I have been working on is the Annihilation of Clan Wolverine (picrel Clan Widowmaker WiP)
:D
>>97949437I def enjoy learning more about Jihad and DA, beyond the bare notions of “WoB Gone Wild” and “Muh HPG Grid”>>97949484>No cool techWell, compared to 3025 …>>97949493Yeah don’t bother with that, I set my game in the final years of the Amaris Civil War with the idea that both sides had been attrited to the point of Succ War lance comp
Praise Blake!
>>97949455A 50 ton regulan/fwl omnimech quad, with a turret, and claws.Its fucking awesome.Also infamous for have compact mech, narrow/low profile, allowing you to stuff 24 into a union, and hated by the fwl and regulars, because the dumbasses tries to deploy JUST saraths against enemy forces...Enemy forces that had huge amounts of heavies and assaults...Somehow not being able to win against numerically superior, and tonnage superior forces they were dropped into the teeth of, is the sarath's fault.Its also not liked because normal mech pilots don't like having to drive a quad AND the turret.>because everyone gives their hot new 50t omnimech to 4/5 retards.Fucking dumbasses.It's also totally does not look like a battletech Not!Liger.
>>97949455 Sarath omni.Prime has a big gun, a medium gun, and a little gun.Second setup has a bunch of flamers and a plasma rifle. Evil.Third set up has a fucktonne of Clan lrm's. Also evil.
>>97949534Looks like an edgy command wolf to me.
>>97949524The whole Regulan War was horseshit. >Hey, know how you guys are the only dudes in the FWL left with a real fighter carrier that can launch 2 whole regiments of ASF at once plus DS support?>Yeah?>Well, we made it just magically disappear so you can get curbstomped.>At least those Shart Foxes trying to interdict our systems only have 1 capital armor on each facing of their downteched hobo ships and our main fighter does 2 capital damage.>Oh, we're going to pretend they're actually still full warships for the purposes of fucking you over.>At least we have 50 years of pocket warship production with nuclear warheads from Clippperton.>Gonna pretend you don't have that either.>What about having nice pure mech forces when everyone else is 1/3 mechs for deployment?>Won't make a difference.>Zoids?>You have to buy your Clan LRM ammo from the same faggots strangling your worlds.>Why is this happening again?>Because Fake Tommy's little girl launched a falseflag on you, and you had the temerity to figure it out and launch a retaliatory strike.>Well, guess I'll die, then.
>>97949547Thats the claws+spikes+tsm melee rape combo its equipped with. Gives it edgelord looks. But does let it kick all of the ass in melee.Unfortunately, just like the hunchback's cannon giving its pilots a delusion of being able to outfight 100t assaults, the sarath pilots also suffer from crippling overconfidence due to how fuckawesome their mech is.
>>97949484They really need to retcon weapons like IS LBX-20's, SSRM6's ER mediums etc existing during that period to give it something different and also fix that apparently nobody thought to design said weapons in other sizes despite them being around for well over 100 years by the Amaris Coup even if it does have a knock on effect on later content. Star League era would also lend itself more to a Battleforce style campaign play I'd say especially since each company is meant to be running the same mech and battles are meant to be that large anyway.
>>97949564This is why everything after and including the fedcom civil war NEVER HAPPENED to me. From then on, the writers of the canon went full retard. The whole dork age, ilclan, everything, fucking dumb as shit. Republic is even more egregious and does not deserve to even be mentioned on the same scale of fuckups as the jihad and dork age etc. Because it's just sooooooo much worse.
>>97949568Just gotta go for the neck!
>>97949564Why did they get rid of the dual cockpit? I liked the dynamic of a dedicated gunner and runner
>>97949484>gatekept by the purest form of Battletech before Clanshit infected everythingOh, sweet summer child....
>>97949596They combined it with the command console so you can still do the same thing. It sucks that it's heavier, but at least you can still do it.
>>97949576FedCom civil war was good in that it undid the stupidity that was FedCom unification.3025 and 3067 are the only good years to plant your flag.
>>97949576Ok buddy.
>>97949596Someone involved with the rules would rather just have command consoles.But then they made Tripods require the standard pilot/gunner dual cockpit anyway so I don't know why they want command console to be the only two person cockpit on regular mechs.
>>97949596Browsing the Sarna page for Battlemasters, there are a lot more command console versions than I thought, plus the FedSuns refit a bunch into being duals by dropping a heat sink to make space. Kurita converted several into C3 Master carriers. As far as I can tell from the extensive list, dual cockpit Battlemasters never left production entirely.
>>97949609Nope. FedCom is the only way to get to a new star league properly. Fedcom allied with DC, backing the fwl Marik girl as the new star lord, Isis?And the cappellans get stomped the fuck out.Then we have wobbies, but as guerilla, terries, not open war. Not nuke happy loonies. But cyber ninjas and assasins, a proper shadow war, the kind the Sphere has never faced, the refusal to fight openly or up front.Thats what should stress the new star league. A whole bunch of false flags and shit.Ironically having the result of drawing the new SL together more as they fight back against the Terry infiltrators.
>>97949602You can? I though the CC had you switch out who's piloting it wholesale. Is it a special rule in tacops or the bmm?
>>97949647This man understands that Twilight of the Clans was top BATTLETECH.
>>97949681The Society was right dammit.
So I suppose for average people when your planet got conquered by the FedSun/Lyran/FWL it's just change of flag and the life pretty much stays the same. How about the Drans and CapCon? And which one will be shittier to live under?
Reminder that CGL is a shit company once again
>>97949736Dracs give you a mandatory tea set and kimono. Caps make you servitors. The divide is obvious.
One of the big things I am noticing as I try to look through the books more as I study up on the Raven Alliance, is the lack of mention of a ton of things that were established in older lore books. The Field Manual Clan warden and Crusader went really in depth on stuff, but for instance the remaining Blood names. We know they allowed Homeworld clan blood names to make new blood houses in the inner sphere from the inner sphere. But for instance the Crow Blood name being taken by Cloud Cobra. You would think they would go ahead and do that for that name. Then there is the Mckenna name according to Sarna only has 5 or less bloodrights. You would also think they would mention that these blood names are being expanded on.Essentially, Bloodnames are FASFA numbersTo circle back though, really do wish we had good updates on stuff in that depth. I know it is a lot of work as example how long it took them to make handbook house Kurita.
Isn't the current state of the setting a clan win? Il-khan era?
>>97949744I hate tea so obviously dracs are the worst
>>97949759The clans always win, at least Clan Wolf does.
>>97949771Are they the darlings of the writers?
>>97949790The joke "Clan Wolf wins even when they lose" exists for a reason, anon.
>>97949792damn... inner sphere bros what do we do...
>>97949804Inner Sphere Great Houses are still ultimately the main characters of Battletech. The writers literally can’t bump them off no matter what. In the case of the Cappellans and FWL it’s gotten so obvious that they have plot armor that it’s comical.> “Oh no! We wrote the Cappellans to be so fucked that there’s no way to realistically have them survive the succession wars”-bring legendary, “I literally wrote the book on warfare” Sun Tzu back from the grave to save the Cappellans. Yes it’s blatant deus ex machina, but we’re out of ideas.> “oops, we got carried away with the FWL breakup and killed the faction”Writers just go “fuck it”, and suddenly the FWL is fine one time skip later.
>>97943714based frost cawcaw poster
>>97946316lost it at Steel Viper
>>97950023
:D :D :D
>>97946316>all those uber toyetic designsI wish the cartoon had been successful and they made a toy line like gi joe
>>97950195I'm glad it failed and that never came to pass, I have no desire to see the setting dumbed down so that retarded children can buy pastel-colored horrors and call their neighbors "freebirths" with no sense of the meaning behind it.
>>97950242>retarded children can buy pastel-colored horrors and call their neighbors "freebirths"this sounds great tho
You have received the ability to run Battletech the way you want to. What is your 10 year plan?
>>97950286Hire the the resident evil movie guy to make a live action battletech movie staring his wife as the lyran archon
>>97950242You really experience no joy in life. Don’t you?
>>97950296I support this anon
Is Clan society capable of producing art?
>>97950356art is for fagst. star captain of the jade falconswait would they be angry of "t." for being a contraction
>>97950286Let the IlClan take its course, but have it end with the FWL leading the charge into Terra only for Alaric to blow up the poles in his defeat turning it into a frozen wasteland devoid of life.With the seat of a potential Star League destroyed, Clan tech in the hands of the sphere, and the remaining Clans in the periphery, it is the dawn of a new era. One that the periphery states have long since dreaded.The Great Sphere Expansion, ending with the drive to the Homeworlds, has begun.
>>97950356It's apparently a permitted hobby of some warriors and laborers.Though a warrior creating art or any physical object arguably sounds to me like chalcas in the same way a laborer taking part in combat like a warrior would be.
>>97950286Partner with Trigger to make an anime.Partner with Bandai to make model kits tied to the anime.Partner with Joytoy to make collectable figures tied to the anime.The 3rd Star League is never going to have its golden age, it will instead be an age where degenerate clones of Alaric descend into madness on the throne of Terra while the Great Houses join only to corrupt the system from within and wage constant shadow wars and false flag shenanigans on each other while dodging an increasingly demoralized nuSLDF.MEANWHILEA SECOND sphere of human influence will develop as the Home Clans mutate and attempt to absorb the Scorpion Empire only for Blakist Remnants to complicate the situation by being discovered to have thrived in colonies near both. A Deep Periphery bandit kingdom full of refugees from the IS forms a forth faction. This Second Sphere engages economically with the IS states as a complicated web of alliances develops, with Clan Sea Fox making more money than they know what to do with even as they begin to develop their own internal cracks.
>>97950338that's just contrarian-anon. anything nuetral or positive posted itt draws that faggot's ire, shitposting and hate.anything.you could post>I like the panther! its so silly!and CuntAnon will Reeeeeeeeepost at you infinitely. he hates BT and wants /btg/ to die.
Rifleman C3 is fucking nice. anyone else used this bad boy in games?
to whit"The modern Rifleman C 3 takes this concept further with purpose-built production rather than battlefield salvage. Trellshire Heavy Industries manufactures these units at their Twycross facility, integrating cutting-edge Clan technology with classic styling. The result is a garrison 'Mech that significantly outperforms its Inner Sphere ancestor while maintaining the familiar silhouette and handling characteristics that pilots appreciate. These designs appear throughout Clan garrison clusters in the Inner Sphere occupation zones, providing capable anti-aircraft coverage without consuming resources needed for front-line OmniMechs.Deployment:Clan Sea Fox introduced the Rifleman C 3 in 3132 as a commercially available modernization of the original Twycross garrison refit. Built on an Endo Steel chassis with Clan Ferro-Fibrous armor, each arm mounts a Series 7K ER Large Laser paired with a Type DL Ultra AC/5 and its ton of ammunition. Torso-mounted Series 6b ER Medium Lasers provide backup firepower while fourteen Clan double heat sinks finally give the configuration adequate thermal management. AC/20-proof armor across most locations makes the C 3 suitable for sustained combat operations. The matching range brackets of the primary weapons and manageable heat profile allow MechWarriors to maintain continuous fire without the discipline constraints that plagued earlier C variants."
"Clan Sea Fox recognized the commercial potential of the design and worked with Trellshire Heavy Industries to develop the Rifleman C 3 as a production model specifically for export. Unlike the salvage-based conversions or experimental Jade Falcon variants, the C 3 was designed from the start for reliable garrison duty. The combination of proven technology, reasonable cost, and familiar handling made it attractive to multiple customers. Both the Draconis Combine and Duchy of Oriente have acquired the design in small numbers, while Clan garrison forces continue deploying earlier conversion variants alongside the newer production models."
or the possibly even more fuckawesome Crusader 10S... anyone used this badass?"TharHes Industries' ultimate expression of Crusader evolution, the 10S variant combines cutting-edge Clan-specification technology with the classic design philosophy that made the original successful. The configuration utilizes an entirely Clan-tech equipment suite including endo steel structure and a powerful XL engine to achieve 86 km/h tactical speed. Each arm mounts a sophisticated combination of LRM-15 launchers with Artemis IV fire control, heavy machine guns, and ER medium pulse lasers, providing devastating firepower across all engagement ranges. Hip-mounted Streak SRM-6 launchers ensure reliable close-range capability while comprehensive ammunition storage with integral CASE protection maintains operational endurance. Fourteen double heat sinks manage the substantial thermal load from the advanced weapons suite. The 10S represents the theoretical pinnacle of Crusader development, incorporating centuries of combat experience with the most advanced technology available."
we even get a bunny ears warhammer that kills things real fucking good. the WHM C3."A Golden Century-era Clan rebuild popular with Wolf's Dragoons, this variant was reconstructed from the ground up using Clan technology. An endo steel internal structure and extralight engine provided substantial weight savings over the original Inner Sphere components, enabling a formidable weapon suite and advanced electronics. Each arm carried a Clan ER PPC, while both side torsos mounted an ER medium laser, a medium pulse laser, and a Streak SRM-6 launcher, providing exceptional firepower at all ranges. An ECM suite protected the design from enemy electronics warfare, and a targeting computer enhanced the accuracy of the already devastating weapons array. Seventeen double heat sinks could not manage a full alpha strike, requiring pilots to alternate between long-range and short-range weapon groups. Originally contracted by Wolf's Dragoons during their time among the Clans, this variant later entered broader production at Trellshire Heavy Industries on Twycross and the Arcadia BattleMech Plant, fulfilling requests from multiple Clan factions through Clan Sea Fox merchant channels."by ilclan its now common production for IS clan general. kell hounds very rare salvage, woofs goon's rare production and very rare salvage.so go kill clanner garrison filth and steal one. >the clans don't want you to know this, but warhammer c3's are free, you just go and take them. I myself have one.
>>97948893> I feel like I didn't imagine this whole self-righteous hypocrisy angle where "Davs are crusaders for the rights and liberation of their fellow man, so please excuse us for leveling the children's hospital it jumped into the line of fire." But then where did you hear it? Because even this Isn’t exactly how I even heard it from the community. I heard it that, yes, they are, usually, the “good guys” but are so damn smug about it that this makes you hate them more than if they were the assholes. But again, this is a Battletech YouTuber saying this so… still not a direct source, or secondary source.>>97948996But where’s even this established? Yeah they tried to invade the Taurians back in the age of war, but most primary lore sources make it sound like the FedSuns just lost interest afterwards and never went back. Which, ironically, gives the Taurians some fun personality, because it makes their feud with the FedSuns seem more irrational and one-sided. Like for all these centuries the Taurians have been harboring this hatred for the FedSuns, amassing military equipment and training soldiers for the day the FedSuns try to invade them again, and there’s god-only-knows how much Taurian media there is vilifying the FedSuns; meanwhile Davion’s probably forgotten that they exist and needs to be reminded about them by advisers every now and again.But it this all paints a picture, to me at least, that the FedSuns don’t really have a personality, or not a distinct one at any rate, by default, and what most fans are doing is trying to graft something of a personality onto them just so they feel like a real faction, and not just “mooks in the yellow mechs”
>>97950698I just kinda got that vibe a long time back playing MW4: Mercenaries when I was a kid. Like Vengeance was very clearly stacked against Steiner, but Mercenaries seemed to want to try and paint with a little less broad of a brush.
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>>97950698I think FedSuns suffer from being the early designated protagonists. They are defined by being the featureless faction that highlights the extremeties of the other factions while leaving enough unsaid so that readers can make whatever assumptions they want to identify with them. Their most distinct feature was "these guys are clever enough to beat long odds and are otherwise normal" so all the kids reading along could feel clever too.
night night /btg/only 6 more minis to go for this trinary
>>97950768tentacles?
>>97950698The taurians actually invaded the federated suns multiple times immediately after the FCCW and during the jihad and perpetrated multiple first strike nuclear attacks and engaged in scorched earth tactics with the use of nuclear weapons when their invasion was forced back.This was almost five hundred years after they had any major military confrontations and was justified as retaking founding taurian territory, though said territory had been in davion hands longer than it had ever been controlled by the taurians in the first place at that point.
>>97950768Your mech looks like it has tentacles and is hovering on a stream of diarrhea. I like the pink though.
>>97950776>>97950778It's not tentacles
>>97950803dude, you turned a battletech mini into a slaaneshi daemon.
>>97950813what else would a slaaneshi daemon do
>>97950813>>97950821
>>97950338>falling into the capitalist trap of pandering to children = joyI suspect you really don't appreciate the bullet this game dodged by avoiding such poisoned wells of so-called success.
>>97950582Why does this so-called contrarian only really post when you're around to point it out, Nuln?
>>97950582>you could post>>I like the panther! its so silly!>and CuntAnon will Reeeeeeeeepost at you infinitely.But I like the Panther. It fucks hard enough they had to invent the Wolfhound to deal with it. I even like how its issues keep impacting the universe at large, like when they tried to upgrade the PPC to the more powerful Lord's Light 2 but the heat was so problematic the Panther pilots downgraded it back to the older model; this left a giant pool of unused LL 2s that eventually wound up in Akuma and No-Dachi, which with TSM especially appreciated the added heat.
I'm thinking about painting Adam's Axman: Is it black base with yellow on top? Or yellow base with black on top?
>>97950934He's being gangstalked.
>>97950988It's more likely that he's playing both roles
>>97950987Yellow base with black on top (just like Nuln) is easier to paint.
>>97949736Border planets conquered by the Fedrats will be added to the Skid Row until the border can be pushed further into enemy territory.So no more roads for you, because roads lead to serfdom.>>97950356They are capable of producing furry cartoons, Bob Ross-style paintings and Remembrance Rap battles.
>>97951014>the most popular black market items in Clanspace are dark caste snuff vids and bootleg Exo Squad episodes
>>97951032Chatterweb? More like Twitter - the Universal App.
>>97950366Nah, they cannot be that dismissive of art. They care about aesthetics way too much for that.>>97950392Granted, Clan Warriors may have contempt for or at least discomfort with the ‘labor’ of artistic production. But I have no trouble imagining they hold art as a means of communicating ideals in extremely high esteem. Similarly, a Warrior would not be involved in figuring out how to produce a new weapon much less manufacturing it. But they highly value those weapons. Now, the question is whether Warriors value them as merely a means to an end or have some deeper, aesthetic appreciation for them. Compare this to how a Dracaboo cares about his daisho beyond whether they are the right tool for the 32nd-century battlefield.>>97951014The Remberance is certainly the most famous and/or obvious example of the Clans producing art. It’s not just data but rather an intentionally poetic endeavor.
Kerensky’s project was to create a new form of society. He would require artists to help articulate and communicate this vision. The Clans from their earliest history would therefore necessarily require artists for this reason, if no other. I imagine that the style of early Clan-art would probably mimic Soviet-era socialist realism with even more grandiose emphasis on heroic imagery.
>>97951366>slop
>>97951366>Soviet-era socialist realismThe worker can never be the hero of Clan society, and economic progress was not a mark of success for the collective they were trying to build either, so why would they?
>>97951366>Kerensky’s project was to create a new form of society.The wrong Kerensky forged Clan society
>>97951366>AI SlopKys
>>97949328Would.
Spotted Toyama's Porsche today, Praise be on Blake! Idc much for modern Porsches but we Dutchies don't get to chose our own numberplates so a ComStar white one with HPG on the plates Will tickle my 'tisms
>>97951396>>97951418AI slop is a totally appropriate way to present a take on Clan attitudes toward art: it is conceived of by leaders who value it less as an expression of human meaning and more as a tool for social control.>>97951401Clan culture privileges class well above any other social distinction; they just build everything around the professional soldiery rather than the proletariat.
>>97951401>economic progress was not a mark of success for the collective they were trying to buildTrue. For all their bleating about being the true heirs of Star League they never reestablished DOME, and neither has the IlClan.
>>97951567>AI slop is a totally appropriate way to present a take on Clan attitudes toward art:Not really. The Clans aren't anti-human.
>>97951690yes they are. the clans are explicitly anti-human. they themselves are soulless flesh golems, and their 'culture' and 'society' exist to negate all that is human.
What faction can I play that's the hedonist faction? Pleasure being their main focus, a lust for battle, orgies, feasting, messed up kinks, fetishes.Who are, in short, the Slaanesh faction of Battletech?
>>97952398None.There are no Slaaneshi expies in Battletech. Ever.Go to Furthest Country, post haste, instead.
>>97952398Maybe some obscure pirate gang or periphery gladiator cabal. There are known hedonists, but "a lust for battle" is not a faction trait of any of them.
>>97950356Multiple clans have been shown to hold art in high regard. I believe it's clan Ghost Bear have a thing about making a single piece of art that you will never finish in your lifetime. Always constantly working on it. I think that's the most prominent example of it, but I know there are some other clans that also do artwork but I cannot remember them off the top of my head
>>97952398Magistracy of Canopus
>>97952398Clan Jade Falcon :^)
