King in the Woods Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>97943584>Thread Question:Which kit most desperately needs an update from the army/armies you play?
>>97950992>TQBeastmen - razorgors, centigors primarily but I would be glad if chariots were updated too
>>97950992dwarf warriors and quarellers. the beards are sculpted fairly poorly despite being 60% of the model. there are horrible gaps and very severe mould slips. the banners and weapons are good but overall pose variety is quite low with only a few faces and bodies, with arms molded to the torso on half of themand just in general low detail, mushy, and scrawny arms wearing cloth sleeves makes them seem very unimposing and weak. they do not hold up to their art at all
>>97951037oh an obviously rangers need their own kit with proper cloaks, fur pelts, survival packs, etc, not just using the same models as quarellers
>>97951037For the sake of my wallet. I really hope they don't do a dwarf MTO with the old metal sculpts. I love these old fuckers so much.
>>97951001Yeah razorgors especially, 1 resin sculpt is pretty rough. Centigors at least have some variety in the posing.
>>97951037The caped torsos are especially bad.>>97951001>razorgorsI like the razorgor sculpt, it's very charaterful. Needs some greenstuff to fill the gaps though
Post your latest games
>>97951047those are plastic
>>97951045
Bit more progress on the giant
>>97951156War wagons are so bad it causes me physical pain. Why can we not just have six halberd swings?
>>97951310I only buy GW brand not off model shit thanks.
>>97951367incomprehensible, have a dire day
>>97951156That's one cool table, bonus points for herdstone. Is it a random pic from net?
>>97951310these look decent but i've been burned by AoW in the past, i bought one of their melee unit kits and the casting quality was some of the worst i've ever seen. flaky resin plastic, mould slips far worse than the worst warhammer fantasy slips, mushy shallow details. i dont know if i just got a bad batch or what but the quality was so bad it put me off the manufacturerplus arent their physical miniatures OOP now anyways?
>>97951156IMPERIAL DWARFS - HO!
>>97950992Beasted offscreen by random Ungor.
>>97951425Are wood elves and beast men the biggest npc-factions?
>>97951310Got this kit super cheap 2nd hand and wasn't too impressed by it. They're pretty poorly designed sculpts, not very detailed. You have to clip some of the crossbow strings so they dont collide with the beards. Very annoying to assemble.
>>97951457the only exception in their range is the slayers kit. for some reason they spent extra money on that kit and actually made it a proper GW style injection mold sprue kit with flat joint posable arms and waist, separate weapon hands, ball joint heads and full command. but the rest of their kits i have not heard good things about
>>97951478I've only ever bought their Halfling Rogue, but it is one of the coolest minis I own. Planning on using him as a campaign piece of some sort, not sure how yet. Also got a 'cast of the ICoS shitmar Ogre Mercenary fellow from their Chicago gas station Mordheim equivalent, but I might replace him with the actual Mordheim Ogre Bodyguard at least while he's part of a unit next to my old metals.
>>97951001A Beastmen Reinforcement box with new Centigors, Chariots, and a Centigor Chieftain would be insanely cool
sigmar almost jobbed to a troll but he can defeated nagash wtf
>>97951684Troll strong.
>>97951684He didn't defeat Nagash, Ghal-Maraz defeated Nagash. If Sigmar didn't have one of the strongest magical artifacts in the entire setting(and didn't get absurdly lucky) he'd have been obliterated.
>>97951684>>97951686People seem to forget just how lethal trolls are in the fluff.See https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVl9-ZWfIMM which GW would approve as well. They kill Ogres as well on the regular. Stupider than a box of rocks but acid vomit and having greater brute strength than a mino and ogre is nothing to joke about.
>>97951684Sigmar is, or at least at the time, was, still human. Yes, he wielded the most powerful magic weapon in the setting (maybe second to the SoK), but he wasn't supernaturally tough because of it. A troll hitting a human really really really hard is going to kill a human, the fact that Sigmar survived means he was already obscenely strong even by human standards.Plus, the Nagash fight was more just Nagash being a retard than anything else, had he just gone for the kill instead of overextending to get the Crown, Sigmar would have died then and there.
>>97951824yeah i guess lore and gameplay are not the same when you kill thousand of them in vermintide and total war with just normal human
>>97950992>TQBeastmen - ChariotsDwarfs - SlayersBretonnians - Grail KnightsHigh Elves - Spearmen
>>97951156Absolutely stunning table. When people model tress in big clumps like this, multiple trees on a single base, it always looks so much better than individual trees
>>97951393they're releasing new plastic next month
>>97951994
>>97951994come on guys, at least paint them a different color. I'm sure trolls are generic enough anything short of a direct copy would be arguable in court, but that's shameless
>>97952014GW tried to take down the kickstarter during the final days and failed
>>97951156Not the best lighting in my buddy’s basement, but I let him borrow my Dwarfs since he’s new to the game and still trying it out. He actually beat my Beastmen in this Battle March game, I’m learning Dwarfs are a tough match for Beastmen, but it was a great game. Pretty grueling, as it should be.
Apparently the rumoured new chaos stuff will be limited to "just" new warriors and knights, instead of the "numerous" new kits that were previously alleged
>>97951684happens to the best of em nakai almost jobbed to a random rat ogre too
>>97951994two sculpts on the right look good but man I do not like that one with the vomitseems very flimsy and impractical >>97952065what else do they even need? forsaken maybe?
>>97952090Forsaken are being removed. Same for chaos spawn, the giant spawn will be replaced with the mammoth.
>>97952065The rumor is, and I think always has been, Warriors, Knights, and Chosen.And people assume a new dragon is coming soon because of how often it's featured in the art, so people are adding that on but it's not part of the "official" rumor
>>97952065the previous rumor was warriors, knights, chosen(?), and some heroes
>>97952097oh yeah I forgot about the Mammoth. But I think that was a separate rumor apart from the new unit kits.
>>97952097what do you mean "being"? they aren't sold firsthand anywhere
>>97952031This battlemat looks horrible, like camouflage. Its very hard to see anything on the table at all, like diarrhea
>>97952031Here’s a shot of the thane about to turn the shaman into a puff of fur and red paste
>>97952167Lol, thank you 4chan for making me equatoranon
>>97952115Forsaken have such a weird history>get (models) introduced in 8th edition>only a couple of years of use before aos happens>inexplicably excluded from that game>tow comes around>no forsaken eitherVery aptly-named kit
>>97952065It's as I was worried, Old World's success has kind of fucked it. If it had been a more modest success then they'd have happilly have pumped out basically every old fantasy model by now and we'd have shit like Kislev and Fimir. Instead we've got to wait while they make all new models for everything.
>>97952271Fimir are rightful AoS clay
Do the current Quarrelers box include cloaks to turn them into rangers or am I better of getting third party models?
>>97952031Good stuff man. As well, fair dues going easy on a less experienced player. Always hate those eejits on FB who post teaching friends and trouncing em.
>>97952323There's some in there that have cloaks but it's infrequent - it would be relatively easy to sculpt cloaks on them though.
>>97952281Fimir are built for squares
>>97951443In terms of jobbing for the setting, beastmen are. Wood elves kind of just exist and are too isolated to be rated even as NPCs. In TOW there is an argument for greenskins too even if they weren't in WHFB.
>>97952366>greenskins>not in WHFB????
>>97952326Thanks! Yeah I built him a list I would have used if I were fighting Beastmen. Glad he won, he kept seeing his greatly dwindled dwarfs compared to my gors thinking he had definitely lost, but he didn’t immediately understand just how stubborn dwarfs are as an army lol.
>>97952366what do the woodelves even do than being a bunch of shitbag
>>97952406Silently wage a constant war against the Beastmen in the forest that the rest of the world doesn’t see. Really hope we get a narrative like that for TOW, especially if Morghur returns.But the also will be shitbags to random Bretonnian peasants who don’t deserve to be skinned alive and nailed to branches.
>>97952395Reading comprehension is at an all time low, I see
>>97952395>beastmen were always jobbing>greenskins are now too, even though they used not to beTh..they used not to BE? You mean... they didn't exist?!
>>97952403That is one thing that surprises new players. Staying power matters a lot, and losing combats don't mean losing games.
>>97952360>>97952271I love Fimir so much. Thankfully you can still look at small 3rd party garage sculptors to find cool as classic style models If GW made new Fimir they would be so soulless
>>97952548Kek imagine one of those silly guys breeding your girl! I love the 80s fantasy vibe, Dark Crystal/Labyrinth era that Fimir evoke
Anyone able to add Temple of Spite to the mega?
>>97952598>Kek imagine one of those silly guys breeding your girl!Why
>>97952669Cause it makes me rock hard
>>97952598>Kek imagine one of those silly guys breeding your girl!kys
>>97952527Me can't reed.>>97952530I didn't think greenskins were jobbing in TOW? Spinebreaker is looting bretonnia.
>>97950992>TQDesperately need new chaos ogres. These old 6th edition models are pretty dire. I've been thinking about grabbing some of the 8th edition ogres from AoS and doing some creative kitbashing rather than use pic related.
>>97952778you genuinely have no soul. The only issue is the price of those guys.
>>97952784I just don't think the ogres had good models for a long time, not until the ogre kingdoms actually launched later in 6th ed. Before that though? It was rough.You're right about the price though.
>>97952888Nta but giant mongolians was a dull design choice IMO. I much preferred the variation of normal looking ogres. Also the gut plate aesthetic is meh.
>>97951619>tfw no fuzzy gotewifeThis is what Magnus the Pious didn't want us to have...
>>97952598>Kek imagine one of those silly guys breeding your girl!
Tell me a little known fact, or your own headcanon, about the human gods EXCEPT Sigmar
>>97951994>>97952014GW sells Troggoths. They make trolls. Completely different.
Taal and Rhya were literally just the first man and woman and are manling ancestor gods
>>97952031>>97952167Kino, other than magic I suppose there isn’t much Beastmen can do against dwarfs right? They kind of want you to grind it out with them.
>>97952777I could have been clearer. Beastmen are the jobber army. Its the role to take narrative Ls even if they are interesting.Green skins in TOW are NPC status though. Yeah they have things going on, but they arent really impacting anything major yet. It's the same as wood elves where they are existing dangerously over there somewhere.
>>979522710% chance we’d have Kislev if they stuck with resin. They wouldn’t do an all new range with resin. It would have been reserved for a kit here and there as additions. Kislev was delayed because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
>>97953086Yeah, Viletide is about the only steady weapon that works, but with dorf’s MR its still a little shaky.Dragon Ogres do decent, I like halberds on them which usually can still out-initiative them on a charge with the added benefit of str and ap.
>>97953062They were the lines of emergent leaders of the human tribes during the great catastrophe.The similarities to the elven gods come from these leaders being taught to by the elven gods ahead of asuryan's decree.The difference between these gods and sigmar is that sigmar was one man who reached godhood, while the other gods didn't come from but one man who was idolised to greatness, but an entire line of men who inherited a role and whose persona got deified instead of any one individual.
>>97953086Pigs are great. And the flying monsters in general. Centigors with great weapons as well. People drastically under estimate how good the two vortexs the primal magic is against armies like theirs too.Otherwise, yeah they struggle with dwarfs.
>>97952598>Kek imagine one of those silly guys breeding your girl!Calm down, quarterpounder. The bull will be over any day now.
>>97952323Only 1/4 of quarrellers have cloaks, same with warriors.I kept most of mine specifically to have enough for a mixed unit of mostly cloaked dudes.
>>97951156Posted this is the previous thread but had a game facing a dark elf army against my Beastmen.Pretty fun and casual game that I managed to eek out a hard fought win from.
>>97952888>ogres didn't have good models>posts Great models >>97953062The effects of priests are more related to the faith and willpower of the priest than any actual intervention by the Gods themselves
>>97953187So 9 cloaks per box? (36 in a box).
>>97953062Chaos works the same as 40K and the realm of gods is the same as Chaos, just a different "zone" and not evil
>>97953263I've alerted the Witch Hunters.
>>97952598>imagine one of those silly guys breeding your girl! Average beastman player itt
>>97953259the other consideration is that warriors and quarrelers bodies are pretty much compatible. they require only some very minor massaging and bit work on the hands to be completely interchangable between the two kits, and there are more capes in the warrior kitso if you got say the battalion, you could give the cape-less bodies to the warriors and steal the warrior capes for your rangersi also made a point on mine to give the warriors all the horned helms from both kits, and all my rangers non horned helms
>>97953304>so if you got say the battalion, you could give the cape-less bodies to the warriors and steal the warrior capes for your rangersOh well that's actually a relief. They do look like mostly the same sculpts from the pictures.
>>97953062They all on occasion come down to earth to fuck mortals.
>>97953341You're confusing the Cathay dragons for the gods.
