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>Previous Thread:
>>97957543

>thread question:
What are some "discarded plot opportunities" like Clonegrim in the 40k fluff?
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I like orks :D
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Salamanders should get Infernus Marines as battle line units.
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>>97960179
That looks like shit
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Are you excited for the upcoming box opening?
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>>97960206
I don't play space marines or orks so no
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>TQ
I Would like to see the Leman Russ/Isha relationship plot happen, I think it'd be a cool way to introduce half bloods into the story and would make Leman look like the chad he was always born to be.
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>>97960209
>gives russ super hyper death aids after thousands of years in nurgle's asscrack
This is good
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>>97960179
Laying siege to this thread
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>>97960213
Why do you always think of male ass/aids and gay shit?
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>>97960209
Go away fecaltroon.
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>>97960209
>cucked by fatso disease god
>chad
kek
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>>97960209
primarchs are eunuchs, retard
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>>97960217
Apologize to Abaddon.
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Anon wanted a snappie.
I threw this out because it was superfluous but also I really didn't like the pose and there was some mold slippage I couldn't fix in the back and frankly I just didn't want it anymore.
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>>97960219
Goes hand in hand with Heyyyman~ Russ
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>>97960209
>the Leman Russ/Isha relationship plot
Not a thing
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>>97960217
now that's propa orky
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>>97960231
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>>97960206
>Adam Stroke and Sir Edmund Eccles
Always a pleasure
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>>97960179
>TQ
definitely an imperial civil war if not a complete balkanization of territories after guilliman’s return. it would expand the amount of battlezones, and it would justify why 60% of matches are space marine vs space marine and 80% of matches are imperium vs imperium. I assume they didn’t go through with it because they didn’t understand how devastating back to back status quo changes would be to a functioning society let alone one as fucked up and deeply conservative as the imperium is.
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>>97960206
I’m interested, but I wouldn’t say excited. I haven’t made any space marines or orks before, but I might pick up the box to try out both.
I guess I’m excited for the reveals to be over so anything going forward will be other faction 11th edition stuff.
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>>97960231
at least take new pictures of your dudes
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>>97960232
I think there's a strong possibility Leman comes back as the first explicitly gay Primarch (still asexual, but capable of romantic love). The reports of woke's death are greatly exaggerated.
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>>97960243
>No anon...they're not..
No primarch has ever had sons that aren't just gene-butchered marines and no primarch has ever had wives that weren't just a political marriage.

They are sexless, retard.
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>>97960264
We already had the Badab War, and I still ain’t paying taxes.
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>>97960243
They are, logically. There's no blatant canonical yes or no declaration, but they only make sense as creations if their balls were mashed and fried in utero.
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>>97960278
>salamanders often have families
dude
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>>97960255
it is a vomit inducing idea, there's no basis from any actual plot hook, the characters have nothing to do with one another, and your opinions are worse than a broken bot trained on niggers.
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>>97960283
>fecaltroon doesn't know people have families beyond wives and sons (which marines do not have)
fatherless projection
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what would happen if a Custodes would succeed in the blood game, end up in front of the emperor and be able to kill him? Would he do it because as long as he didn't the game is still going on or would he stop?
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>>97960283
Families they were born into; as in they are allowed to stay in contact with mom, dad, siblings. Unless you have a canonical source that says one of their flamebroiled asses has a wife.
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>>97960286
you've got zero creative skills, they can easily just say he found her in nurgs garden and rescues her and learned from her how to revive the Emperor you fat idiot.
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>>97960291
Do you contribute anything to these threads other than baiting arguments and then just replying with normie gifs and baseless trashy insults?
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>>97960306
It would never get that far.
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>>97960283
Salamanders have fathers and mothers and grandparents and brothers and cousins and uncles and aunts, they don't have sons, lorelet.
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Femmarines when?
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>>97960309
>salamanders families
I recall that some marines literally know they're better than baseline humans and limit contact or relations with the mortals because they're superior.
The Salamanders seem the opposite of this.
So is it true in 40k lore that the middle ground is minimizing relationship development with mortal humans to not get too attached as that could hinder their combat efficiency if they get sentimental?
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>>97960283
You're dumbo, you're poopoo brain. Please submit your skin colour for examination.
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>>97960291
meant for >>97960243
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>>97960313
that's bullshit and you know it. If it's impossible there is no reason to do it anymore.
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>>97960322
Tbf you have shit ideas that all revolve around the SW and their glup shittos being more important than they are
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>>97960322
Because your idea is worthless and you are wrong and should get insulted unlike anon.
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>>97960206
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>>97960345
>my Primarch
This is why you get picked on and made fun of
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>>97960324
It's why salamanders don't act like autistic robots when interacting with humans like other marines do. They don't subscribe to the obviously flawed logic that cutting yourself off from the people you are ostensibly supposed to protect somehow makes you a better soldier.
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>>97960345
>peer
stop ban evading
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>>97960330
I'm "intreagued" by this discussion, wouldn't the beheading of the Emperor just bring him right back to life?
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>>97960306
You're not using your imagination if all you're coming up with is a scenario where the Custurdeat literally ends up standing in front of the Emperor with a knife. Yes, in that situation the Turd would not deal the killing blow.

But imagine scenarios where the Turd releases a scrapcode virus that will blow up the throne in 00:04:40 or whatever... in those innumerable situations it is not coming down to a single killing blow that can be aborted.
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>>97960206
Real question is can we change these two faggot manchildren for better commentators?
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>>97960311
Your post doesn't show creativity any more than shoving a high pressure hose into your throat so you shit out weeks worth of excrements in 4 seconds would be classical music.

The idea engages in no themes, no plot hooks, no payoffs, no character developments, no factions developments, raises no stakes, solves no questions, expands no part of the setting.
Your idea is worthless and so are you.
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>>97960368
>The Emperor being Revived
>Does nothing for the setting
You are really really really stupid anon.
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>>97960345
>disagree with it
>think you are wrong
you are wrong, it's not up to debate, you are wrong and agreeing with you is being wrong and retarded
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>>97960367
No, he would technically be your primarch if you were a space marine in the far flung future
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>>97960345
You're not a peer, you're a deplorable pervert who won't leave a community that has rejected them.
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>>97960367
No, you don't play any game, you don't have friends, not even random people want to play with you.
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>>97960384
>>97960380
Why do you always take things to a deeply personal level to try and make people feel like shit?
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>>97960372
Not only it does nothing, it breaks the setting, the emperor sitting on that chair is a fundamental load bearing column, taking him off doesn't fix anything, it only breaks shit for no gain to the value of the setting itself you braindead faggot.
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>>97960383
It's odd how you feel the need to fabricate "xenosfag" enemies when you have entire general full of actual enemies.
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>>97960372
It should be revealed that the Emperor has four exact clones of himself at peak Emperor. That would do 4x more for the setting than him being revived.
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>>97960391
It's all been laid out to you on a silver platter before. What you're doing that rubs people the wrong way, how to change/improve to fit in. You seriously can't be this ignorant
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Me? Xenoschad.
You? Muhreenfag.
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>>97960400
>when you have entire general full of actual enemies
Yes, the aeldari and DEfags
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>>97960405
>Xenoschad
More like NPCuck lol
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>>97960383
>it's the xenofags boogeymen!
>it's the lesbian discord cabal!
>it's the niggajeetboo monster!

or you're just objectively wrong and the faction and character you use for your self validation are factually sexless eunuchs
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>>97960206
No, none of the space marine units are any good for my chad Ultramarine army and I don't play orcs. In fact the only SM faction gayer than those shit cringe blood angles that they could have picked for this box is the space wolves, truly this is one of the shittiest launch edition boxes we have seen in a long time.
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>>97960410
We'll see how many eldar and dark eldar are brutalizing wolves in the collage. I'm guessing it's going to be mostly Imperium forces putting your dogs down.
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Most podles.

Yes, I know these still need work.
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>>97960427
Okay man I got it, you and others have made your point already.
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>>97960427
>sexless eunuchs
technically marines and primarchs only ever lack the ability and drive for being the penetrating partner in sex, but they most likely engage in being the power bottom

also all marines get abused and raped during their upbringing and formation as an inevitability of their training and transhuman procedures
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>>97960457
>t.the regular state of the liberal mind
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>>97960449
Posting models
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>>97960231
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>>97960473
You mixed duck shit in the light grey you used for the tanks didn't you anon...
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>>97960473
what the fuck
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>>97960449
I need to find a gopnik/celestial recaster for these guys, they look sick
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>>97960480
go away
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>>97960449
I haven't built 40k space marines in some time....
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>>97960367
You are not a space marine. You are an obnoxious manchild who doesn't know when to shut up. If you lived in the 41st millennium, you would be burned alive for being a filthy mutant.
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>>97960490
Adorable, never been a fan full snow bases but I like the paint job.
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>>97960493
Not sure you noticed but we've all moved on and are trying to re-rail the thread.
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>>97960449
I think old sculpts mostly look better than newer cadslop
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When the new rules drop I will just play as if my old shoota boys all have invisible choppas, and all my old slugga boys have invisible shootas. I don't see a problem with this.
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>>97960473
Pretty tanks.
Also duck reminds me of the "pathetic duck" meme.
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>>97960501
Mostly agree, especially because you can get more dynamic (if repetitive) poses from the metal sculpts. The advantage of the new stuff is the kitbashing, though. I've seen some really clever combinations in other collections.
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>>97960502
You're meant to drop a mix of both types of models in each unit

Like the ETB kit nobody liked
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>>97960500
Fuck off, mutant.
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Give me 5 must read 40k books, thanks.
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>>97960495
thanks.
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>>97960457
You're a bit OTT with this (ie. who would they power bottom for if all their brothers are equally limpdicked?)

But Watson's "Space Marine" is the best Space Marine novel precisely because it actually tries to examine and offer a depiction of what happens when a bunch of early-puberty low IQ peons have their development interrupted and get pumped with ragemaking hormones and homoreligiosity.
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>>97960539
>Give me 5 must read 40k books, thanks.
warhammer 40000 rogue trader
realm of chaos slaves to darkness
realm of chaos the lost and the damned
waaargh da orkz
freebooterz
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>>97960539
Metamorphosis by franz kafka
The stranger by Albert Camus
The art of war
2666 by Roberto Bolano
The divine comedy by Dante
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>>97960537
LOL
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>>97960558
>(ie. who would they power bottom for if all their brothers are equally limpdicked?)
servitors
brothers with strap ons
serfs that acted as father figures
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>>97960231
dude what the fuck, this isn't a gore thread
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>>97960502
>shoota used as slugga
the shoota boy slows down his shots but isn’t paying attention, so he ends up shooting at an angle where the bullets eventually hit the dirt resulting in a lack of range
>slugga used as shoota
the slugga boy lines up his shot and rapid fires giving him a good volley
>shoota used as choppa
the boy brings his shoota around and uses it as a makeshift club. you wouldn’t think it would be as effective as a standard choppa, but the shoota boy gives it his all, and is still able to make good dents in their armor.
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>>97960539
Space Marine
Eisenhorn omnibus
Vaults of Terra omnibus
Assassinorum: Kingmaker
Junktion

Maybe I'm kind of cheating with with the omnibi? But those short series are many times better than any single novel.
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>>97960537
>botslop tantrum
>they don't even burn or melt
imagine thinking this is a comeback, how fucked up is your life?
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>>97960363
did any of them ever try to spend a few hundred years building a chaos cult?
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>>97960473
all the turrets should have swayed right to hail the duck emperor.
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>>97960559
>>97960580
>Maybe I'm kind of cheating with with the omnibi?
Nope it's fine, thanks guys
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>>97960473
Always good to see a fellow fowl enjoyer.
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how does trazyn travel around to all these different places to collect stuff?
does he go by super sneaky ship or something?
im confus
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>>97960473
you know you could have just spent 50 dollars magnetizing a the tanks with a kit
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>>97960206
Not really. A live stream plagued by audio issues and fake hype onions facing? Pass. Just give us the rules. No one wants to play any games right now because they "want to wait till 11th"
>97960231
So sad. You just know he was bouncing up and down with a shit eating grin on his face while he posted it.
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>>97960592
Nta but why do you insist on staying here when every single anon here hates you and wants you gone?
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97960694
Wrong! Sallyfag has not said anything bad about me ever!
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>>97960661
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>>97960694
unironically because he has nowhere else to go
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>spending $60 a pop on extra boxes of infantry just so I can get more squad weapons and alternate loadouts
The price is one thing, but having to paint each wargear option is almost worse. I enjoy painting but not painting the same guy 5 times with a different gun. I would magnetize if magnetizing small models weren’t so dogshit
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>>97960711
So if he denounced you, you'd leave?
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>>97960694
Probably because he's a lonely and socially inept and this is his main source of human interaction.
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>>97960345
>my primarch
>peer
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>>97960449
Finished these Sunday
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>>97960367
Lmao
My sides.
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>>97960231
You DON'T belong and NEED to leave.
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>>97960449
put most basecoats on my collage submission
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>>97960717
He does, he hasn't exhausted all options. This was just his second stop from reddit and he refuses to budge

>>97960727
He won't, he's firmly stuck in his mannerisms and habits
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>>97960747
Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have three psykers?
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>>97960179
Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts. This month's theme was crucible character and/or "space wolves getting absolutely destroyed".
I'll try to post every thread but I'll also check the archive as usual. If you want to make it easier to find in the archive include "april collage submission" in the post.

Here is the vote for next month's theme:
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4p3Ylga

Looking forward to seeing what you've cooked up this time!
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Ave Dominus Nox
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>>97960814
My submission, double entry as both a TSons magister in terminator armour and also melting a space wolf in liquid mana. I had my mate take it away for a little bit of a photoshoot with an actually good camera so hopefully people like it :)
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>>97960276
Put the trip back on.
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>>97960826
Please stop copying me you spiteful simian. I am the true Son of Russ!
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>Cut off the top of a Warp Spider Exarch blade thinking it was a nub still stuck on
>Try to put the piece back on
>It fell onto the floor and I can't find it
Fuck my life
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So just to clear something up
>The Imperium of Man is a vast, scattered realm, extending across almost the entire galaxy, impinging itself upon the more compact areas of alien-settled space. The million or more Human-inhabited worlds the Imperium controls are but a tiny fraction of the galactic whole.
>Then there are the fringes and Halo Zones, remote areas where the Astronomican does not reach, and where the only Human settlers are Renegades or pioneering groups whose ancestors were forgotten by the Emperor's servants millennia ago. Most of the Milky Way Galaxy remains unexplored, unknown, and extremely dangerous, even in the 41st Millennium
This means there are, canonically, human civilizations beyond the reach of the Imperium. Also about Rogue Traders:
>Rogue Traders are empowered with the authority to travel freely within the Imperium and beyond, this allows them to interact with cultures for which contact with is normally forbidden, be they non-Imperial human worlds or Xenos-controlled planets. Not only that, but Rogue Traders are granted the permission and freedom to deal with these cultures as they see fit, so long as it is in the interests of the Imperium.
>be they non-Imperial human worlds or Xenos-controlled planets
>non-Imperial human worlds
>Rogue Traders are granted the permission and freedom to deal with these cultures as they see fit, so long as it is in the interests of the Imperium
So this means if a Rogue Trader dynasty stumbled upon a backwater solar system that secretly housed a single Forgeworld and kept it's existence a secret then a civilization of humans could exist without being subjugated or destroyed by the Imperium.
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>>97960841
>my
never beating the autism allegations
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>>97960842
>fell onto the floor and I can't find it
Story of my kitbashing life
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>>97960837
>True Son of Russ
Fuck off.
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>>97960841
Gonna be honest I don't even hate you, I just wanted to add a little bit of fun to the base and since it's thematic to both TSons and the collage, a drowning space wolf made sense. All part of the fun innit?
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>>97960861
How very dare! Ragnar will have your head for speaking against his brethren you ungrateful swine.
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>>97960864
Bad move, now he's gonna think you're best friends
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>quiet again
Bannu?
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>>97960844
You're not wrong in your post as far as I know, anon.
The problem is that while the Imperium is huge it has "holdings" scattered across the galaxy so that technically means that there is no "unknown regions" that is "truly uncharted."
Star Wars did it right with having the "unknown regions" of the galaxy. The 40k galaxy is more or less all covered by the Imperium even if weaker in most of space.
I think this has been more or less fixed with the Great Rift making the Imperium lose half it's territory.
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So I will build my first vehicle soon, a Leman Russ. I have magnetised before so I am ready to also do it to the Leman Russ, I was wondering which bits you guys think are worthy to magnetise.

I also heard you shouldn't glue the thread until you finish painting it all, is that true.
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>>97960903
Make sure to drill the butthole
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Why did they changed the main color of the Tau anyway? They weren't white colored as a main color in the past
Is their original color still used by one of their unit?
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>>97960844
"Could exist" and "isn't retarded" are not neccesarily exclusive. There are definetly loads of little non imperial human mini-states either uncontacted, in rebellion, or are in any of a hundred strange political in-betweens. You get to pick one or two gimmicks before you start becoming a retard who doesn't understand how to make /yourdudes/
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damn there goes half the thread
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>>97960909
>Why did they changed the main color of the Tau anyway?
never understood this either, that ochre scheme is so much better than the boring white they use now
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>>97960909
>main color
There is none, paint them however you like. If you mean the colour scheme they use for marketing, they change that shit for all factions semi regularly with no real rhyme or reason, at least from an outsider perspective
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>>97960814
The pupper was put down and he's a crucible character.
>Champion of Titan
>Storm bolter
>NFW + Servo Arm to represent his second chainsword
>Prognosticators Foresight
>Eye of Judgement because he's going after corrupt marines rather than daemons.
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>>97960909
having your posterboys in camouflage is a bad idea because it means it can blend in with certain scenery.
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>>97960914
>before you start becoming a retard who doesn't understand how to make /yourdudes/
NTA but
What makes a homebrew good and fitting for the setting rather than a bad one?
You'd think that a long time after Sonic OCs this would have been figured out among autists where the lessons can work for all IPs including 40k.
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>>97960899
tbf doesn't the warp sometime does shit like teleporting people in the future? You could take an human faction from the past, have them get teleported 20 000 or 30 000 years after their original time. it be an easy way to explain a new human faction (that also could look VERY different from the ones we already have)
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>>97960873
As funny as seeing that faggot get a ban is, the prospect of this being the daily routine for the foreseeable future (aka the thread being the designated shitting street for a mentally crippled freak to run wild on for hours until mods finally do something about it) is genuinely harrowing.
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>>97960909
They still use the T'au orange sept scheme, but they changed to Vior'La white sept scheme in around mid 7th, my guess is to be more striking in at a glance.
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>>97960923
>What makes a homebrew good and fitting for the setting
It's a dark and bleak setting so keep that in mind. Any /yourdudes/ lore that's more flowers and sunshine, or "these dudes are actually the only pure hearted good guys in the setting!" sort of stuff gets bad and unfitting real quick. Unfortunately there's a whole bunch of autists who want their dudes to be super speshul and cool so
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>>97960922
but isn't it the point, they are supposed to be closer to modern army tactics, no?
>>97960917
Every factions have main colors, and many have not changed in a long time. It be like if the Ultramarine suddenly were not blue anymore
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>>97960939
/40kg/ has always been a containment thread, it's just more obvious now
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>>97960930
I feel bad for the mods and jannies always having to clean his diaper, but if they keep it up reliably then I don’t see the problem. talk about models, cue a recess where decalfag dances and throws pies in his race, gets banned, and then everyone talks about models again.
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I think the blood angels are cool
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>>97960943
whoops, meant for >>97960930
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>they really thought femstodes would sell
lol. lmao even
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>>97960940
>It be like if the Ultramarine suddenly were not blue anymore
That's not a good comparison at all. The orange colour scheme is one sept, the white is another, they are more like different marine chapters. When GW displays generic marines they swap around which chapter they paint them as, its not always ultras.
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>>97960951
I've seeing the new box doing relatively well
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>>97960951
Wait for femarines soon lol
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>>97960939
I think you know your stuff about 40k homebrew.
What I was more or less looking for are the "primary universe autistic rules of homebrewing OC for any ip" if what was in those quotations make sense.
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>>97960957
doing as well as AC Shadow yeah
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>>97960947
they are, don't let one retard ruin a faction for you
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>>97960957
>Produce very few boxes
>The small amount sells out
>its doing well.
Its doing eh.

Also WTF happened in this thread with all the deleted posts?
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>>97960814
My camera's not great, but here's another dead Space Wolf for the pile.
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>>97960970
Too bad it was GW itself who ruined them for me with those awful models
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That one box of female custodes actually outsold the entire rest of the 40k range last year. Periodt.
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>>97960179
Bearded Fulgrim looks so unreal. Didn't know he could even grow one
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>>97960984
>Source: I made it the fuck up.
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>>97960976
The village idiot had a spergout and the jannies dealt with him, nothing to really comment about.
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>>97960927
I vaguely remember someone saying that somewhat occurred in a BL book. But if I recall correctly it was a space ship from the future sent to the past. Poster said it was chaos winning so I'm not sure if it was bait or not.
But I think GW hasn't pulled that ace out of their sleeve yet as 40k is making enough money and I think meeting their targets so they don't have to put something out that drastic.

>Speaking of human civilizations outside the Imperium
Do you think it is smarter for the big legions of chaos like the BL, IW, WB, etc. to leave the independent human civilizations alone as their existence might inspire more rebellion against the Imperium thus weakening it?
All the while forcing the Imperium to divert resources to quell those rebellions?
I think it would be smart for big Abbydabby to do but maybe he would probably conquer all of it while trying to smash the Imperium.
I'm not sure.
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>>97960922
>Be ORANGE
>Somehow that's stealthy
I've seen this one before
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Is a Malcador of sufficient size to proxy as a Dorn?
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>>97960899
>The problem is that while the Imperium is huge it has "holdings" scattered across the galaxy so that technically means that there is no "unknown regions" that is "truly uncharted."
This is just completely, utterly wrong. Like the exact opposite of the explicit canon lore in the main rulebooks since forever.

The Imperium is spread so thinly most of their systems are separated by vast regions of what is literally called "wilderness space" which are uncharted and mostly unexplored, and this makes up over 90% of the fucking galaxy.
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On the topic of /yourdudes/ what would thematically be a good historic aesthetic to model Chaos Guardsmen who are anti-Krieg? Frenchies Zouaves with red pants?
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>>97960899
This isn't true at all, pretty much only the segmentum solar is anything like properly mapped, and not even it is anywhere near 100%. The imperium is a thinnly spread network of somewhat dense human occupied sectors and little colonies with huge swathes of unmapped or only lightly explored wilderness between them, where warp lanes are not easy to travel, or where an expedition has simply never been launched, or where there is believed to be nothing of value to humans, or where there was a rebellion back in M35 they've never gotten around to cleaning up. The imperium is only 1 million worlds in a galaxy of 100 billion stars.

Granted, the fiction does do a bad job of conveying this. It would be nice if they made an effort to really give the segmentum some actual identity, and slightly divergent regional cultures so it felt like the galaxy had areas in it other than
>around terra
>eye of terror
>maelstrom
>ultramar and tau empire

Ultima segmentum should be frontier cowboy pirate space with a number of named and strange kingdoms like Ultramar, with divergent cultures and strange customs where humans are a small minority, Solar segmentum should be the imperial heartland where imperial central rule is strong and the imperial cultural we see is dominant, obscurus should be sparsely populated and plauged by the eye, full of sedition, chaos, and maurading warbands where the inquisition and church are especially primary, with all sorts of ancient xenos freaky shit and other spooky elements, tempestus should be a former part of the imperium's zone of heavy control but eroded by orks and other xenos and the main example of the whole "decline" thing they keep telling us is happening but never showed us until abaddon shit down the map, and idk what pascificus should be, maybe major human space but far enough from terra for central control to be less absolute and turn it into space HRE. The galaxy split as written didn't do much well.
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>>97960951
>>97960968
That's a cute opinion. Did a twitter larper give it to you?
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>>97960899
>I think this has been more or less fixed with the Great Rift making the Imperium lose half it's territory.
Cool, thanks.
>>97960927
>WARP FUCKERY
Anon... knowledge can survive hundreds if not thousands of years if those who retain it willingly pass it down across generations.
>>97960939
>"these dudes are actually the only pure hearted good guys in the setting!" sort of stuff gets bad and unfitting real quick
What if the human faction is even more insular than the Imperium? They only care about their own and will throw entire populations under the metaphorical deathrape train through subterfuge when it comes to hiding their secrets and securing resources for their home star system? Sort of like a 40k CIA.
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>>97961008
NTA but your side is the one that gets all its opinions from the collectivist retard Hive Mind astroturf by ESG money, it's time to stop projecting.
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>>97961001
>wilderness space
Had to look it up. I understand my mistakes in what I said now.
>>97961007
>Granted, the fiction does do a bad job of conveying this
That will be my excuse for being so incorrect and showing how wrong I was.

Sorry about this blunder on my part lads.
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>>97961010
Yes but the appeal of the humanity lore is that it's a long game of telephone with multiple interruptions in service. Having something totally survive with perfect context and historic interpretation is extremely rare and I'd argue against the spirit of humanity's flavor in 40k.
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>>97961002
>ban evading already
kek
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>>97961007
>Granted, the fiction does do a bad job of conveying this
Very true, especially in the more modern lore.
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>>97961018
>Having something totally survive with perfect context and historic interpretation is extremely rare and I'd argue against the spirit of humanity's flavor in 40k
>if they aren't a dying, dementia-ridden religious old man that holds lethal grudges against his shitty neighbors than that's WRONG
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>>97960814
Reposting my submission; he's a crucible Venerable Battle Brother of the Red Hunters having ripped apart a Space Wolves wolfguard on Fenris during the Months of Shame. Added a magnet to the bottom of his base and the top of a 90mm so he's fully playable.
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>>97961012
>your side
Nigger, I'm not on a side, femstodes are bad and people know that, but I don't want gay larpers that don't even partake in this hobby to come in and try create their gay little symbiotic culture war.
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>>97961045
Nice job retard
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>>97961045
Fuck, forgot the pic.
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>>97961060
Those blood effects are hot.
What paint(s) did you use for them?
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>>97960923
The main pitfalls of bad homebrew are contrarianism, excessive importance, badassery, or success. Any of those can be ok on their own if done tastefully, but the more you do any of them or combine them, the worse it gets.

For example
>My chaos lord is one of the mightiest chosen of khorne in the eye
Ok, fine.
>He leads a massive warband of that is one of the eye's most important players
Not good
>And he has had his butcher's nails succesfully removed
You are retarded.
>And he's secretly a good guy who is still loyal to the emperor
Now you have to kill yourself
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>>97961036
>if they aren't a dying, dementia-ridden religious old man that holds lethal grudges against his shitty neighbors than that's WRONG
Different anon here but pretty much, yeah.

One of the core essential themes of 40k is that it's so far in the future and so much apocalyptic shit has happened that all of humanity is now a deranged cargo cult of insane freaks living in the end days with ancient technology that is basically magic to them and psychologically they are pretty much an alien species to us. The universe is supposed to feel more like a fever dream taking place in a liminal space, like a sci-fi creepypasta where you aren't even sure if the things you're reading are "real" or the ravings of a madman.

"Only the insane have strength enough to prosper; only those that prosper truly judge what is sane."

Is an iconic quote going back to some of the earliest days of 40k for a reason. The inmates are running the asylum.
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Are GW dice good quality?

I have chessex dice and while they’re “cheap” compared to citadel, I notice some of the spots start to wear after a few matches.

I don’t care that citadel dice are pricey if they are at least durable and won’t chip.
Is there a noticeable difference between the colored and branded faction dice vs the basic Citadel dice that just have a skull on the 6 side?

I would rather buy a few sets of expensive dice than have to rebuy cheap dice every so often. Is there another seller that provides quality dice?
>Baron of dice
They don’t ship to my country
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>>97961056
I'm retarded.
>>97961061
I used both blood for the blood god and dirty down gore on the gory bits and did the ole flick blood for the blood god with a toothbrush method for the blood spatter. Also touched the edges of the blades with the toothbrush.
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>>97960814
hello mr ross i'd like to amend my submission if possible: i'd like to include the crucible character i made as well as the titan stepping on the furry
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>>97960923
Sadly people have only gotten more retarded with time, self-inserting and blatant wank has become more accepted.
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>>97961091
Thanks anon!
>did the ole flick blood for the blood god with a toothbrush method for the blood spatter
I gotta learn and catalogue the different methods of spattering blood for 28mm minis.
That was good anon.
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Would this model work as an exalted champion with the Daemonhost upgrade?

>>97961060
I really like it, you did a fantastic job on the gore.
i think the focus is making the white look a lot thicker than it actually is
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>>97961001
>systems are separated by vast regions of what is literally called "wilderness space" which are uncharted and mostly unexplored
If you can go from A to B, you totally can turn off the warp engines at the midpoint in between AB.
So, it's unexplored probably because there is nothing worth of interest in there, or worse, dangerous xenos or obstacles that prevent safe translation into realspace.

Irdk why the halo stars are unexplored. If the astronomicon can illuminate the other side of the dense galactic center, then surely it can reach the halo stars just fine
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>>97961078
nah, it looks neat youre just a massive, autistic faggot
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>>97961099
I think this retardation happened because people became unwilling to tell someone the bad news. Especially with advice on how to correct the bad stuff.
What has made self-inserting more accepted?
The Black Lion of Ultramar is an obvious one, but I'll admit the repetition of him constantly appearing is making him endearing.
>>97961069
So moderation is key then when the pitfalls of bad homebrew are "unavoidable?"
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>>97961083
Ultramar and their Spiritual Liege kinda ruins this unless a civil war between them and the a High Lords of Terra or at least the Ecclesiarchy breaks out.
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>>97961085
First of all, you're only imagining the dots fading on your Chessex dice.

Secondly, nobody who expounds on "dice quality" is ever talking about the resistance of the painted dots to physical wear and tear, because no dice get worn out on any span of time lower than "decades."

It's not a real concern, you are just an autist. The mere fact that you examine your dice paint after matches proves this.

That said, the highest quality dice you can get are casino grade ones. However, they often have the dots stamped on flat sides (no recesses) so your hallucinations about the paint rubbing off will get even worse with those.
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>>97960814
A trophy plucked from the wreckage of a space wolf tank contemptuously destroyed by the Knight Desectrator, Friend of War. It wasn't until some hours after the battle had ended that the knight's rider was made aware he had slain several astartes when his slaves were picking over the wreckage. In the gloom of the battle, he had not realized such an ugly vehicle would belong to the vaunted astartes, for they did not, traditionally, bedeck their vehicles in so many meaningless runes. He had imagined it some ugly local militia custom of the world he was helping to raze.

I probably won't finish the whole knight in time, so I'm just submitting this little trophy for the collage.
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>>97960814
This is my crucible character known on Fenris only as "Wolfsbane." She is responsible for personally infiltrating the Fang on numerous occasions in order to engage their chapter master in personal combat. She lets Grimnar live only to bask in his shame as she then abducts multiple Space Wolf astartes to Commorragh in order to create living rugs and fur coats for Dark Eldar nobility.
This is all canon BTW.
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>>97961069
What if the human faction is even more insular than the Imperium? They only care about their own and will throw entire populations under the metaphorical deathrape train through subterfuge when it comes to hiding their secrets and securing resources for their home star system? Sort of like a 40k CIA or Alpha Legion if they were in it for themselves instead of thinking there's some greater master plan.
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>>97961007
>The imperium is only 1 million worlds in a galaxy of 100 billion stars
Yeah but like 99% of those planets are uninhabitable hot Jupiters or whatever. Living in there is living indoors, and that's no different than just being on a ship.
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>>97961085
>Are GW dice good quality?
Most likely not because it is GW.
They probably cut corners and commissioned a third party to make those dice then with their brand on it they get to mark up the cost.
I like Chessex dice because they're cheap.
The biggest reason though is because I have a lot of basic white with black pip dice because I play guard so if I lose a dice I can easily replace them.
Also the plastic "cases" chessex comes in make for nice display boxes for minis. That was another thing.
>spots start to wear
Is a bit of black acrylic paint and gloss varnish (if the dice is glossy) gonna fix that?
It isn't like you're using loaded dice here.
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>>97961036
I am that anon and it can be young men screaming too.
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>>97961133
Kek this is the most unbelievable by far, this stupid whore couldn’t penetrate the Fangs outhouse much less the actual fortress and Logan will thrash her in less than 5 seconds.
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>>97961124
warp lanes don't act like that. Think of a road. You might have a 100 mile highway between point a and b, but a point of interest about 5 miles off the road, unmapped, and with no route to it is going to be hard to access even though 5 miles is nothing compared to the distance you're travelling.
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>>97961114
>i think the focus is making the white look a lot thicker than it actually is
Nah, it looks pretty thick irl too. Was kind of struggling with coverage and ended up painting too many layers. Didn't have this much of a problem with my termies.
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>>97961143
>Yeah but like 99% of those planets are uninhabitable hot Jupiters or whatever
Correct but that still means there are about a billion habitable worlds and the Imperium is only 0.1% of that subset.
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>>97960502
I hate the lack of customisation in 40k now with a deep burning passion

It's so fucking soulless and gay

Tournament play is literally less than 1% of all games and the game is increasingly structured around that rather than for the general joy of of the hobby
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>>97961155
and yet its absolutely real. Cope, redditor
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>>97961162
So...>>97960844 is a correct assessment then?
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>>97961137
Potentially perfectly interesting, but it's a holistic assesment.
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>>97961161
Are you painting white straight over your base coats, or are you starting off with a grey like celestial grey?
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>>97961155
>unbelievable
Then how did this SW end up in Commorragh?
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>>97961132
love the story behind it! here’s a little conversation after the battle when my boyz were haggling over scraps
>so, what’s dis supposed to be?
>well… me and the ladz was finkin’ on it… and it might be to put up your ass.
>up your ass?
>ya, ya, so they look like one of dem furry squig fings these beakies like… dere, w- wulps, wul-
>wolfs
>roight, dere wolfs
>huh, well, I’ll think I’ll take the beakie sholder armour, and I’ll take dis wolf fing. I could use it for Pork, love her tah deff, but she’s been crapping all in my bed at nite.
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Man exodites as so cool. I just hope they are more savage barbarian than tree hugger
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>>97961133
i beleive this happened.
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>>97961007
It doesn't help that the strange far away kingdom of Ultramar is as vanilla as it gets, and they are the poster boy of vanillahood in the VERY same way Cadia on the literal opposite end of the galaxy is for vanilla guardsmen.
GW is so bad at fluff they somehow managed to institute normalcy on a galactic level.
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>>97961124
>So, it's unexplored probably because there is nothing worth of interest in there
If it's unexplored then no one KNOWS if there's anything of interest there, dummy. It's unexplored because the galaxy is so fucking gigahuge that humanity has never had time to see even close to a fraction of all of it even at the height of its power before constant war and decay started to take its toll. The Mechanicus is sending Explorator fleets out all the time to see what the can find, sometimes whole colony fleets head out to try to found new worlds, but this is just slowly chipping away at the massive darkness.
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>>97961170
Yeah it's not even speculation, it's very very clear cut canon that there are human enclaves separate from the Imperium.
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>>97961157
>You might have a 100 mile highway between point a and b, but a point of interest about 5 miles off the road, unmapped, and with no route to it is going to be hard to access
Anon, you just described a regular commute by metro or bus.
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>>97961171
>but it's a holistic assessment
Care to elaborate?
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>>97961175
He wasn’t captured at the fang, he probably did something noble like traded places with innocent fenrisians because he knew he had the resolve to survive their torture and escape.
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>>97961174
Yeah, I did it from a carmine red base coat. Should've used a light grey and layered up to white.
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>>97960539
Required reading for everyone:
Eisenhorn Xenos
Space Marine
Eye of Terror

I really like these books because I like CSM:
Storm of Iron
The Talon of Horus

>>97960559
extremely based
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>>97961199
No, any non retard would be able to understand my entire meaning from that post, and I dont like to talk to retards.
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>>97960559
Based as fuck
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>>97961190
Please note that the Imperium dubbing a sector of space as unexplored doesn't rule out they lost the records over millennia and there are actually human civilizations there that don't even know about the Horus Heresy.
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>>97961190
>If it's unexplored then no one KNOWS if there's anything of interest there
Anon, we can see if a planet can support life by simply looking at it. Real estate is valuable by itself.
Everything is visible. If there are no humans there it's specifically either because lack of money or lack of interest.
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>>97960539
>4th ed rule book
>Your codex
>you model's instruction manual
>Your best friend'ss Codex
>Rynn's World
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>>97961221
Correct. There might also be no humans out there at all. And there might be worlds that were part of the Imperium post-Heresy but got cut off a few thousand years ago. Basically everything is possible.
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>>97960844
Iirc after the heresy big chunks of imperium fell off and that's where most of non-imperial humans live.
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>>97961229
>Anon, we can see if a planet can support life by simply looking at it.
You cant look at it without getting within a certain distance. The further out you are the more delayed your image is, by literally millions of years, because light has to travel, and this is to say nothing of the fact that large chunks of the Imperium are not advanced enough to have space telescopes.
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>>97961201
>something noble
Lmao, imagine thinking vikingr are noble
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>>97960844
>So this means if a Rogue Trader dynasty stumbled upon a backwater solar system that secretly housed a single Forgeworld and kept it's existence a secret then a civilization of humans could exist without being subjugated or destroyed by the Imperium.
They could try and do that, but they'd be under grounds of losing their charter if they did something like that, so it's much smarter to introduce the system back into the imperium and secure favourable tithes from them.
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>>97961201
he heard the stories of Dark Eldar and their drills and volunteered.
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Eldar craftworld that fucking WIPES OUT HUMAN PLANETS AND BUILDS WRAITHBONE SHRINES TO YNNEAD AND KHAINE IN THEIR WAKE. Thoughts?
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>>97961251
>so it's much smarter
>humanity is now a deranged cargo cult of insane freaks living in the end days with ancient technology that is basically magic to them and psychologically they are pretty much an alien species to us
>but they would be smart like me
This is getting ridiculous.
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>>97961229
This is a retarded argument. The rulebooks just straight up say that the Imperium explores wilderness space all the time looking for resources, habitable worlds and archaeotech and no one knows for sure what's out there. How the fuck are you just assuming it would all be full of humans already or its worthless?
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>>97961277
>two completely different anons
Are you by chance retarded maybe
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>>97961284
You didn't disagree with that anon nor any of the anons claiming humans civilizations can exist without the Imperium but you'll disagree with me.
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>>97961241
>The further out you are the more delayed your image is, by literally millions of years
The galaxy isn't big enough. Our own oxygenation event took 500 million years on a galaxy 0.1 million light years wide.
If a planet is shit now, I promise you it will keep on being shit one hundred thousand years from now.
Unless you have the will and money to terraform it now, that is. But if you did, you would have done it already.
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>>97961290
>nor any of the anons claiming humans civilizations can exist without the Imperium
Because the fucking rulebooks and novels all just straight up say this, what are you even trying to argue???
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>>97961305
That "your dudes" can be any OF THOSE HUMAN CIVILIZATIONS WITHOUT THE IMPERIUM.
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>>97961229
>If there are no humans there it's specifically either because lack of money or lack of interest
No? There are so many reasons it could be empty of human life. How about xenos habitation? Failed and abandoned human settlements? Seasonal harsh climate where the planet is hospitable 90% of the year and a deathzone for 10% and that wiped the himans who tried to inhabit? The list of possible scenarios goes on.
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>>97961297
>But if you did, you would have done it already.
This makes no sense and I'm beginning to think you are some random tourist who knows nothing about 40k. Do you think this is a conventional sci-fi universe?
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>>97961069
Could contrarianism work in good doses? Like wanting your guys to have an unique gimmick that does not go too far into straight up denying the faction's entire shtick
>Well MY necrons arent egyptian they mainly have a mesopotamian, chinese, aztec or whatever aesthetic and they worship the C'tan or the Old Ones 9r whatever
>well MY SoB really loves music and hymns for the Emperor so I added a ton of musical motifs and items to their models
>well MY genestealers are mostly royals and aristocrats instead of miners and moisture farmers
>well MY nurgle warband loves shit and piss instead of mucus and puke
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Did ForgeWorld create the "realism" autists in 40k?
Or was that always present, and their numbers just increased drastically when ForgeWorld dared to make tanks that would make sense in the Imperial Guard like the Atlas Recovery Tank?
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>>97961312
Okay and when did I say otherwise you fucking retard? You're replying to multiple anons that aren't even connected by reply chains, like what are you doing?
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>>97961317
Wait wrong picture my bad I wanted to have this
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>>97961313
This. I think we are arguing with a dumbass autist with no creativity desu.
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>>97961277
What are you on about?
All i'm saying is that it's better for the rogue trader to follow their charter and reintroduce the human worlds into the imperium, because otherwise if another imperial faction came across the worlds and found out that the RT didn't do their job they'd be a good chance of a massive shit show going down be and the RT probably losing their charter.
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>>97961317
I want to eat her pits. I dont care for whatever you posted seems kinda boring ngl.
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>>97961313
>Seasonal harsh climate where the planet is hospitable 90% of the year and a deathzone for 10% and that wiped the himans who tried to inhabit?
That counts as inhabited. Nocturne is kinda like that.
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>>97961346
There are planets like that where measures have been put in place to survive the 10%, but there are definitely planets out there in the wide 40K galaxy where measures weren't put in place in time and any humans were eradicated. No human life = uninhabited
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>>97961279
I think Rogue Traders go to where they already suspect there may be resources, rather than doing blind jumps into the unknown.
Trading with a backwater planet is lucrative because, undeveloped as it is, few are trading with it.
So, you are a pioneer, even if said planet technically doesn't count as Unknown anymore
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>>97960923
The safest homebrew possible is to just pick up a historical group or foreign culture, put them in space, give them a gimmick or two and call it a day. It's as inoffensive as you can get but not very creative but you likely wont run into any big pitfalls
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>>97961358
So >>97960844
Is possible?
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>>97961317
Yeah that's pretty much how you're intended to do it. Just don't go so far that you create Mary Sues or something that violates the core themes of the faction/universe.
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>>97961334
The entire 40k setting relies in people in high up positions in the Imperium making the wrong decisions. If the Imperium was full of people making smart decisions then it wouldn't be the Imperium.
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>>97961366
Sure, because a planet being habitable isn't evidence of it having a Knight House. You'd need to actually land there to see all streets, even back alleys, are suspiciously wide. As if they were made with the intent of fitting a knight :^)
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>>97961297
>Notices your Bulge OwO whats dis.
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>>97961378
>people in high up positions intentionally obscure the existence of a backwater because it benefits them
>hurr durr the Imperium is infallible and would find out!!!
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>>97961133
>personally infiltrating the Fang on numerous occasions in order to engage their chapter master in personal combat
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>>97961377
This is not correct. If the Imperium constantly made the wrong decisions they would already have completely collapsed and humanity would be destroyed.

The Imperium is so big that decisions across the entire spectrum are always being made. Some of them are retarded. Some of them are genius. Most of them are grimly pragmatic. All of it generally comes out in the wash and life goes on, barely.
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>>97960986
getting the slaaneshi forcefem xenohormones flashfried out of your endocrine system by the Emperor's divine light will do that to you
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>>97961179
If GW ever even gets around to them. No, we need another fucking Intercessor kit first, and fancier Assault Intercessors with an extra purity seal!
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>>97961133
wow i just checked my codex and it's real - great work anon
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>>97961403
>This is not correct. If the Imperium constantly made the wrong decisions they would already have completely collapsed and humanity would be destroyed.
It's almost like this is a setting about fallen empires, with empires that have fallen apart and a big empire on it's last breath and constant reminders of empires rising and falling due to their own hubris. It's almost like this is supposed to be the darkest times humanity have ever faced or something
The imperium is, well was up until Guilliman's big return or whatever, falling apart for a reason beyond just their own enemies. It's rulers on a large scale are very incompetent and the imperium gets close to losing worlds every day due to mismanagement of their own resources, constant bureocracy and a very self entitled leadership who does not actually care for humanity on an ethical level as much as on a monetary level
Chaos gets stronger every day because the imperium keeps creating galaxywide misery to most of its own citizens and their only answer is to try and shoot at the problem more to see if it goes away soon
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>>97961441
Rick Priestley himself in an interview directly addressed this retarded idea that the Imperium is just miserable because it creates all of its own problems, pointing out that a ton of their extreme violent intolerance is literally necessary to survive when there are very real legitimate threats of things like witches creating daemon portals and so forth.

All the people who make arguments like you are always some kind of political leftist activist doing some historical revisionist bullshit that 40k is satire of fascism or some nonsense when the original intention was very much that the whole "bloodiest and cruellest regime imaginable" line comes with the unspoken caveat that it's totally justified, that's just how grim the universe is.
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>>97961456
LOL eat shit.
Rick Priestley also wrote the Sensei who who were the protagonists of early 40K. They fought the Imperium as much as they fought against Chaos. The Imperium hunted down the Sensei despite them being the only hope for mankind.

Rick also said that the Imperium is doomed to fall to Chaos. Chaos would win in the end and destroy mankind as it destroyed the Eldar.
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>>97961456
>Rick Priestley himself in an interview directly addressed this retarded idea that the Imperium is just miserable because it creates all of its own problems, pointing out that a ton of their extreme violent intolerance is literally necessary to survive
Anon.
If you can provide proof of this that means that the whole satire argument was all a lie perpetuated as fact and believed due to repetition.
YOU NEED TO PROVIDE A SOURCE TO THE INTERVIEW OF THIS.
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>>97961500
I read it.
He doesn't even state it as an objective fact.
He said to "consider" that what the Imperium was doing was for humanity's survival.
So it's subjective.
And given his reported statements about the Imperium losing to Chaos in the end, the Imperium's tyranny amounted to nothing in the end.
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Is this gonna be another thread where spergs can only understand binary systems, and refuse to believe their can be any nuance inbetween?
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Reminder that the IoM is the objectivly good faction in the 40k setting and its actions are all morally just and correct.

If you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is real, objective and undeniable evil in the universe, then there is nothing that is not justifiable in the effort to destroy that evil.

If you know a planet is going to be lost to a cult or power that is explicity evil, and the only course of action to save that world is death, then it is justifiable to do so.

"Some may look at my actions and ask, who am I to condemn an entire world, But i would ask you, if you knew what i did, who am i not."
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They fucking killed Iordax Quan.
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>>97961456
>All the people who make arguments like you are always some kind of political leftist activist doing some historical revisionist bullshit that 40k is satire of fascism or some nonsense when the original intention was very much that the whole "bloodiest and cruellest regime imaginable" line comes with the unspoken caveat that it's totally justified, that's just how grim the universe is.
Not really, I strongly see myself siding with italian fascists a lot as of late even, I have always been very strongly conservative. I just dislike the idea of the imperium being these super big buffy guys who just want to selflessly "save humanity" to be a very boring concept that doesnt interest me personally as much as seeing a sinking ship fall apart. I dont believe 40k is political at all as much as just some guys saying "hey lets make this setting where everyone is crazy, miserable or a dickhead" and running with it, there's no commentary about how they are secretly super good and happy and everyone hates them so they do this out of the kindness of their heart to save humanity or whatever, it makes the universe not seem grim at all and takes a lot of the uniqueness of the setting
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>>97961528
The Iron Warriors betrayed the Black Legion and killed him.
What the fuck? He was a very interesting character.
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>>97961522
GW said that the Tau are the closest thing to being the good guys in the setting and that Tau characters tend to have a higher moral code than Space Marines, even those from honourable chapters.
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>>97961469
>who were the protagonists of early 40K
They didn't even appear anywhere outside of the Realm of Chaos Lost and the Damned book, which was 3 years into Rogue Trader, and never appeared again. They were an afterthought, a footnote. Calling them the protagonists is hilariously retarded and shows that you never read the early material at all you're just repeating shit you've heard online. The core material made it very clear that the Imperium are the protagonists, Space Marines were the selling point. Even the Sensei's own little lore blurb (which is like half a page in total) explicitly says some of the oppression of the Imperium is justified.

>>97961500
It's been posted like a hundred times.

>>97961510
>He doesn't even state it as an objective fact.
>He said to "consider" that what the Imperium was doing was for humanity's survival.
Yeah except the cheeky smiley faces were very clearly his polite british way of saying "you missed the point, it's this" without being too combative about it.
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>>97961545
Never said they were the best, but they are objectively good. IDK about tau, but IoM are objectively correct and good.
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>>97961546
>It's been posted like a hundred times.
I managed to miss it.
>that pic
What's the source of that image for extra verification purposes?
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Honestly miss 2nd edition.
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>>97961535
>The new most important biggest non-primarch IW character astrates nbeeds some feats to seem serious
>Kill a high ranking but codex only minor BL character
Makes sense, but it fucking sucks
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>>97961555
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/9nvch7/my_extended_interview_with_rick_priestley/

>inb4 plebbit

I know but it's the first one that comes up on google. The actual source is a long series of facebook messages that were eventually uploaded around various places on the internet.
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>>97961565
Thank you anon.
Thank you.
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>>97961546
Fuck you, dude, and continue to eat shit.
The fact that he WROTE the Sensei. Despite your fucking dishonest lying, they were presented as heroes of the setting and humanity's only hope.
On the web, there are internal documents by Rick that further explore the Star Child concept.

Sensei? LITTLE? There were pages dedicated to them and rules, too. I read them. That's how I know you are lying. It says that the Sensei opposed the Imperium's JUTISFIED and UNJUSTIFIED OPPRESSION. Why did you leave that part out?
The simple fact that you did that means you lost the argument due to being terminally dishonest.

>Yeah except the cheeky smiley faces were very clearly his polite british way of saying "you missed the point, it's this" without being too combative about it.
Nobody gives a fuck about your delusion. Read the final line. It's not an objective statement. Just an invitation to a thought experiment.
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>>97961522
>Force people to work 19 hour shifts on the corpse starch factory and to live in a room sized apartment with constant rape happening every night and no proper living conditions that smells like shit
>Somehow the governor's palace is covered head to toe in gold and expensive animals and jeweles from all over the galaxy built off the imperium's resources that could be going to the war effort or its own population
>Constantly smelling gunk 24/7 and having your daughter raped and beheaded by hive gangers with no one doing anything about it
>Turn to the god of shit and gunk because those are the only things you know and there's no better option making you the easiest prey imaginable for any spare objectivly evil demon
>"THESE HERETICS! THIS IS ALL THE FAULT OF THOSE WARP DEMONS CORRUPTING OUR GOOD AND JUSTIFIED EFFECTIVE IMPERIUM! THEY ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH! SEND A GUARD REGIMENT HERE NOW!"
The issue is not that the imperium is cruel to heretics and shoots them on sight, the issue is that this whole thing doesnt really fix chaos at all and that they take no actions against what really causes chaos to be such a pervasive force in the galaxy beyond shooting at it and hoping it goes away. The craftworld eldar are even more inclined to crazy psychic shit than humans and they live in what's basically a chaos-free society built off their own volition and capacity to dial themselves down, the tau live in a borderline chaos-free society because their citizens have no real reason to fall to worship the god of blood and murder if they arent really into the idea of blood and murder and just eat their rations off their brutal but not as quite brutal 13 hour work day. It's about management I don't think chaos is a justifiable or good force in any way nor do I believe anyone who's not crazy would argue for this
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>>97961434
nah the Eldar never really do anything cool or noteworthy
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>>97961561
He also beat up the new Admech character in a duel. He won against her, but an exploding titan saved the Imperials bacon.
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>>97960919
Neat blue warp fire on the dead guy, how’d you make that?
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>>97961593
Just like the space yiffs then hey?
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>>97961587
>Constantly smelling gunk 24/7 and having your daughter raped and beheaded
>Daughter raped and beheaded constantly
kek I get your point but im picturing some mutant who regroews her head or some slanneshi cultist who likes both and having them done to her will cause some daemon to spawn
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>>97961634
Destroyed a craft world solo you nancy
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>>97961165
I recall one of the Guard codexes let you customize your regiment.
We'll never have that again.
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>>97961587
The Tau have no proclivity to Chaos because the writers felt like it. Its a boring uninspired write off that they just dont have strong enough souls for the warp to even care enough to try and corrupt them.
Half the Primarchs and thousands of grumbling planets defected during the zenithal height of humanity's reign throughout the galaxy. What youre saying is complete nonsense. Humanity as a whole is innately ambitious and bellicose and as such are highly desirable targets for the Ruinous Powers.
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>>97961645
Is that what your gork summary told you to make you happy.
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>>97961645
Waow, so impressive...
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>>97961666
That's right you little worm, we rode our wolves right up to your pearly gates and smashes you into pieces.
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>>97961659
That was retconned. The T'au are very interested in the Tau especially Tzeentch and Khorne.
Both engineered Farsight's exposure to Chaos on Arthas Moloch and the assassination of the three Ethereals there. It was done to make Farsight into the Tau version of Horus so that he would rebel against the Ethereals and usher the Tau race into Chaos.

Farsight unwittingly derailed the Chaos Gods plans for him when he self exiled himself rather than return to th empire with the truths he uncovered.
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>>97961659
>Half the Primarchs and thousands of grumbling planets defected during the zenithal height of humanity's reign throughout the galaxy.
NTA but just because the imperium was at its peak does not mean people were living well by today's standarts. If places like Deliverance, Nostramu and Nuceria are allowed to keep doing their thing by the Emperor after he took away their primarchs I doubt the same wouldnt be true for other miserable potholes as well
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>>97961651
You know that ai chatbots are built to be agreeable and tell the users what ever makes them happy, right?
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>>97961673
So funny that they almost wrote the first interesting Tau story then copped out lol
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>>97961659
>>What youre saying is complete nonsense. Humanity as a whole is innately ambitious and bellicose and as such are highly desirable targets for the Ruinous Powers.
If that were true no human worlds would have survived to be conquered during the Great Crusade, nor would the Tau be able to keep human worlds under their control, nor would there be any human worlds for the imperium to rediscover and integrate in the current setting. Chaos Corruption in general is a plot device that does what the writers need it to do, no more, no less.
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>>97961690
Oh man, what’s the lore on this image. Did he used to blogpost about his life on here?
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>>97961673
>Farsight
How are the Farsight Enclaves going?
>>97961691
Is Farsight's Enclaves another missed opportunity that GW is letting collect dust?
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>>97961703
>How are the Farsight Enclaves going?
The latest lore they got was Arks of Omen: Farsight.
It ended with a hopeful note.
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>>97961703
>Farsight's Enclaves another missed opportunity
Sales of Tau models did not increase exponentially when the Farsight Enclaves Codex came out so yes, James tossed his shiny Tau toy away to the bottom of the toy box.
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I’m not fuckin buying this unless it was priced as a start collecting box. Shit is this even getting combat patrol rules? What about bits, or is this all monopose shit?
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>>97961707
>hopeful note
Fuck off, that's not allowed.
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While I always liked the concept of the Starchild and like that it's coming back, particularly in contrast with the Dark King, I was never big on the Sensei. Especially being in strict opposition to the Inquisition. I generally find Inquisitors and their factions to be far more interesting than proto-Perpetuals. I wish we got more shadow wars fought in the Inquisition.
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>>97961587
What's stopping enough high up people from pulling Alpha Legion tier subterfuge to be pretend loyalists while also siphoning resources away from the Imperium to sustain a smaller empire outside of The Inquisition's reach?
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>>97961699
>>97961706
Leeman Russ takes big red dog dick in the butt
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>>97961729
Amazing that posts likes this are left up and others removed, not complaining just noticing is all.
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>>97960717
when i get banned from streamer chats on twitch I don't appeal to the chatmods I just fucking leave
It's a normal thing to leave where you're not wanted.
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>>97961733
NTA but
Could Ultramar actually be self reliant enough to be it's own thing and break away from the Imperium?
Remember the Ultramarines and Ultramar get a lot of lore wanking so maybe they can do it but I'm not too sure.
This all hinges on whether Titus and co. actually took back the 500 Worlds if the latest books gave any indication of that being done.
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do you think they will ever stop scalping
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>>97961731
You see; being contentious and offensive isn't against the rules
Therefore posts like this stay up
Being disruptive, annoying, off topic, and generally unlikable isn't either, but the moderation is still human. The mods don't like you just like the normal users don't like you, and they'll come up with any excuse to send your ass packing.
So I repeat; Leeman Russ takes big red dog dick in the butt
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>>97961733
Yes, but smaller and without a Primarch to tell The Inquisition, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra to fuck off. Is it possible?
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>>97960827
awoo with me brotehrs
kek it looks like some of his runes are stolen from the sw priests
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>>97960870
I actually like the wulfen
it would be cool if BAs had something like it
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>>97961714
>bits

Pretty much nonexistent, like you can leave off some of the squigs or the mixa grot, but otherwise the best you get is a couple head options on the trike driver. That said, it really doesn't take a lot of extra work to add some variation to the Koptas, and 3rd edition compatible boyz bits play fairly nicely with them. Less so for the buggies as the scale of those crews is noticeably smaller so heads and arms feel somewhat oversized when swapped in.
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Imagine if they made a video game version of the table top of 40k, but it plays like XCOM but on a bigger scale. How fast would that shit sell?
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>>97961740
If Ultramar wins most battles but ultimately causes a Great Schism that pits The Lion backed by The Imperium against Guilliman and Ultramar I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about the Primarchs coming back.
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>>97960844
>This means there are, canonically, human civilizations beyond the reach of the Imperium. Also about Rogue Traders:
The same passage mentions worlds settled by humans in ancient times where the genetic engineering has created eight legged simians leaping through trees kidnapping explorators and techpriests.

The Votann are basically the canon representation of an abhuman cousin-species with polities in areas of the galaxy too remote for the usual imperial expansion, as well as catching the DAoT AI stuff and space dwarfs allied with the Tau in one neat box.
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>>97960919
>>97961617
sad awpp
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>>97960982
what models? You can fix the SG with those wings from age of sigmar, and the death company was squatted and ceased to exist except as the BA version of assault marines.
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I was thinking about getting into Sororitas because I like them conceptually but their combat patrol has literally all of their ugliest models for some reason
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>>97961701
He coped about reposting his usual photos by saying he was at work function and was posting alone.
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>>97961774
It's made up that I was alone, I was there with coworkers
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>>97961617
>>97961764
srry was doing my WoW raid lmao. layers in order:
>PA bold titanium white
>speedpaint highlord blue
>PA blue white
>wash with drakkenhoff nightshade
>repeat PA blue white in smaller area
>in a few of the recesses I added some kabalite green
>on some of the highest tips I added a bit of ivory
last two steps really not needed
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>>97961758
If you cannot discern truth from lies then you will spend the rest of your life a lolcow to be milked by people who are smarter than you
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>>97961728
Depends a lot on what region of space you are on. Much like Ultramar the Ultima segmentum is filled with backwater world that no one really bothers to check on the regular and that's even more true for places like the segmentum obscurus
However the imperium is surprisingly liberal when it comes to the way planets administer themselves, they dont really care about your culture or your social structure and whatnot as long as you still worship the emperor, dont go xenos in your back lawn, send them vital resources and manpower and keep the munitorum's quotas in check so this lack of regulation makes it so most dont really attempt to secede the imperium proper because it wouldnt be in whatever governor's best interest to be without its protection and services like navigators or the mechanicum
That's a whole other thing, space travel is very tied to imperium tech and personnel so you probably wont go very far by yourself
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>>97961124
>>97961190
>>97961190
>>97961221
The Imperium forgot about the Atargatis system, but the Carcharodons know about it since it is inhabited by the Ashen Claws, another raven guard terran-descendant Predator Fleet exiled by Corax because he was racist against terrans.

The AC are renegades who have their own society and take human women as brides.
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>>97961617
in this one it looks like the SW got killed by Death Guard and the Slaamander apothecary is recovering the silly dogeman's geneseed after defeating the DG.
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>>97961742
trolling outside of /b/, off topic, and low quality posts are still reportable and bannable
>>97961776
well duh, it wouldn’t be a work function if you were literally the only guy there. instead everyone was talking while you sat in the back on your phone posting your shitty painted models to get attention from people who don’t like you.
also Leeman Russ takes big red dog dick in the butt
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>>97961790
Yes, Sallyman is an adult and knows how to play well with others.
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>>97961744
Yes if you are on an obscure enough backwater. It's not super worth it in general though due to the abundance of threats, Krieg only tried to leave the imperium because it was a heavily armed enough place to defend itself
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Space Wolf Sacrificed on Altar of Khorne by Dark Wolf, more detailed.
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>>97961795
Why don't you just not respond to me and instead ignore and filter? Why do you always have to hover and crowd me with the most evil and disgusting insults and responses?
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>>97961810
Nice. Can we get more angles on that mini, please?
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from the front, the Altar of Khorne is probably more of the centerpiece of this model. If I did it again I would probably have put the focus to the side, to make the shoulderpad easier to see since otherwise he looks like a generic black legionaire rather than a chaos-worshiping wolf traitor.
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>>97961783
*ahem*
LEEMAN RUSS
TAKES
BIG
RED
WOLF
ROCKETS
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>>97961617
realized you might have meant physically make, in which case I didn't. the warpflame on the sword is carefully sliced off of Crowe's daemon sword and attached to the chain sword. the dead furfag is the marine from Belakor's fancy base, very easy bit to find for sale/trade.
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>>97961782
>you still worship the emperor
But can you fake it? Decorate all buildings and vehicles and uniforms with the Aquila. Pray and swear oaths. All the while the population knows histories they shouldn't. Send resources, send out whole Regiments loyal to fighting the enemies of the Imperium. But those men also recruit others who have no where else to go once the campaign wraps up. Resources the enemy had once the fighting is over disappear before the Munitorum can account for them. A reverse Alpha Legion situation. A secret, insular human society that helps the Imperium plenty and portrays itself as heroically loyal but deep down they're loyal to their people, not all peoples of his golden light.
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>>97960841
Remember when logan lost to an unarmored world eater
KWAB
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>>97961828
You claimed I was a no models, I posted my model. Will you admit to being wrong?
Answer the question.
If you don't answer honestly, the janny might ban you again
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>>97961811
Why don't you ignore literally any single post related to you in the slightest way
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>>97961822
Mmmmm, Hazard lines. Erotic.
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>>97961742
>off topic
Is literally in the report options list
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>>97961826
Yes absolutely, the imperium is not very thorough when it comes to investigating its own resources and planets and personally I struggle to believe they can even realistically do so, this is all in the clear. While they are by all means authoritarian it would be very hard to define them as totalitarian specially with how many aspects of their society they dont regulate and let slip under the hood, there were incredibly large genestealer cults on goddamn Terra I doubt the inquisition really has eyes everywhere
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>>97961816
I keep forgetting that the camera fucks it up. It's also a bit messy, but I like the blood and mud and and impromptu violence of Khorne.

I also realized while making him I confused the Dark Wolves warband for the Blood Wolves, another space wolf derived band of traitors, but I was already set on making this guy with his altar of Khorne.

Previously I also included the vox thing from the Nemesis kill team, with a dead space wolf held aloft, but felt like I had too many different things happening that made it feel kind of busy with the altar of skulls, dark wolf champion and dead space wolf. So instead the wolf's head got chucked on the pile with the rest of the skulls.
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>>97961852
Off topic on /tg/ is nebulous
/tg/ is generally accepted as a meta-fiction discussion board for anything even remotely related to tabletop
getting banned for OT here requires effort
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>>97961857
Sure, but that's moving goalposts since the previous post stated off topic wasn't against the rules. It is, and mods will apply bans for it at their discretion. I've been given multiple 24h/3 day bans for offtopic when replying to the mutant and trying to discuss his hellblasters, which I would deem on topic as it's literally talking about someone's minis but whichever mod at the time didn't think so, somehow
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>>97961853
>there were incredibly large genestealer cults on goddamn Terra
Isn't Terra basically an ecumenopolis?
If true then this means whole societies can exist hidden in the underhives and maybe even on the surfaces.

What's the underhive of Terra like? Hive Scum of Terra?
Do even the lowest of the low born on Terra have a kind of pride among themselves for being Terran and of the cradle of mankind?
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>>97961769
>You can fix the SG with those wings from age of sigmar
ISHYGDDT
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I want to paint my black templars in Horus Heresy-era IF colors
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>>97961752
I think it might sell well, but not meet the targets that GW and the studio behind it would want it to.
Probably not as poorly as the Warmachine Tactics video game did.
I need to buy that to preserve the soundtrack of that game.
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>>97961884
Dibs.
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Real nomodels hours right now
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>>97961755
GW wouldn't do anything like that.
If they ever would do an "Imperium vs Imperium" it would be between some literally who made up factions in the middle of backwater space so it won't affect the whole 40k universe.
And if Imperial Armour was anything to go by. It might generate a cult following like how Siege of Vraks did.
I'm not sure if all the FW Imperial Armour books had that disclaimer that all the events don't matter in the grand scale of the 40k universe.
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>>97961891
Real ban evading hours right now
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>>97961891
i'm painting a model right now man
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My models? Unassembled. Unpainted. Sitting in a stack on my desk. I think I'll buy another box.
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>>97961911
Stfu bitch
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Tell it true, are Tau still overpowered?
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>>97961972
Is it wrong to think Orks should have a grot-only subfaction?
Just imagine something like the oldschool 2nd edition killa can, perfectly grot sized.
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>>97962058
>Tell it true, are Tau still overpowered?
It depends what you mean by overpowered. They have several undercosted data sheets, and their play style is super basic, but very difficult for any opponent to counter.
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>>97962058
>Tau
>Overpowered
>Still
Did you just come out of a time portal from 6th ed?
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>>97962081
As far as xenos go I wouldnt mind if they even got a whole codex. Im sure more people would find it appealing than yet another eldar subfaction that GW cornered themselves into having to do models for due to spreading out the eldar too much
Speaking of
If (you) were going to make a xenos faction/codex what would you pick?
>Hard mode: No space skaven or space lizardmen
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>>97961741
people have to stop caving for scalpers to wither away. as long as the goyim are cattle scalpers will profit
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>>97962098
the problem is that the auction expired with no buyers. He'll probably relist for the same price forever. He 'knows what he's got'.
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I wonder if we'll get a stabba grot tomorrow. I like them so far
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>>97962113
My only complaint so far is I wish their ears were bigger.
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>>97962092
I know robots are near extinct due to the whole Abominable intelligence, but a robot-only xenos faction could go hard. Not to say that the Men of Iron could be brought back, that'd be stupidly silly (it'd be like bringing back Krorks or anybody from the war in heaven to their former strength) but something like a faction that is Truly robotic without a single bit of organic matter could be an interesting take.

Only problem stems from the niche it would fulfill, hobby-wise. T'au got the gundam styled mechs, Daemon engines fill up the niche of cool hardcore machines that look like beasts, Mechanicus has the retrofuturistic aesthetic, Orks got the funky haphazardly-made machines so you can't even ape Classic Megaman style without it looking like ''Orks but clean'' and like i said, it'd be silly to bring back the men of iron back just to have a model range for those ol clankers to paint (This is me blindly assuming there's even official art of those things)
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>>97962121
uhh.. anon?
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>>97962131
Necrons are cheating, they got organic origins as being formerly known as the Necrontyr and there's that whole part of the Necrons that wear the skin of some schmuck. I am talking some xenos that are fully manufactured without a hint of a soul (yes necrons are also soulless but there's a difference between being a full automaton and being something that was formerly capable of having a soul and develop feelings and such), and also don't look like robo-egyptians. But again, that shit might as well be asking for Men of Iron in 40k.
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>>97962142
And i forgot to say, there's also the other part that i am very retarded and forgot to list Necrons as one of many factions that don't leave any room or niche for a new robot faction for 40k (moreso since Necrons used to be THE terminator reference, you cannot get higher than that), and i apologize for forgetting the best skellies.
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>>97962092
>If (you) were going to make a xenos faction/codex what would you pick?
I know lore says otherwise but i'd like to see Genestealers actually succeeding on infecting other races (Except necrons coz how do you infect a robot). Just imagine the godless abomination that'd emerge out of mixing Orks and Genestealers, or Genestealers getting a taste of the stuff some T'au auxilliaries would give them like a Krooted up Genestealer.
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>>97962131
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>>97961692
>highly desirable
you may need to think about what this means for more than 5 seconds before replying. Also prior to the Horus Heresy humanity was somewhat more resilient to the warp (because the warp at the time was a much weaker power less capable of corrupting overall.)
You are right in a way though, probably a thousand thousand worlds fell to chaos during Old Night. Betrayal mentions untold billions dying to warp incursions. That still leaves the rest of the galaxy (it's quite large!) to be pulled back into the Imperial fold during the great crusade.
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>>97962178
fuck ON destinyfag
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>>97962121
MOI already have a 60s-70s retrofuturist aesthetic since Blackstone Fortress and GW has been consistent in portraying DAOT as 60s-70s looking so that niche is already filled as is. I can understand it if they go the handmade upgrades route with a very clearly clean body just augmented with chainsaws and guns made out of scrap, maybe augment robots that would otherwise be of civilian use and household appliances into big fighting machines since the more dangerous and armed MOI are way harder to find. Tanks and shredders that are repurposed farming equipment or those weird surgery robots into haemonculi-like multi armed warriors
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>>97962121
>>97962142
Make it a rogue paperclip maximizer. Aesthetic would be utilitarian work robots. Lots of exposed metal frames, hydraulics, mining drills, welding bots, etc.

Although again we kinda have robots already and Dark Mech will probably (if gw isn’t retarded) feature abominable intelligence
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Thinking about building a speedwaagh army, but I already play Eldar and Eldar are already fast. I feel like it’s too much overlap. What’s an army that has a completely different play style? Other than nurgle fatasses.
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>>97961003

Traitor guard Har'lem Hellfighters. You can use the attilan torsos on legs from vehicle crew to make their body, and if you want to arm them with a shotgun then genestealer arms or hive scum ones can be made to work.
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>>97961965
>My models? Unassembled. Unpainted. Sitting in a stack on my desk. I think I'll buy another box.
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>>97962230
>rogue paperclip maximizer
Isn't this niche already filled by the Tyranids?
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>>97962278
Yes, unfortunately. I dont think there will ever be an AI faction in 40k since a lot of the design space is already taken but I’d love to be proved wrong with something new and interesting
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I bet you $10 and Season 1 and 2 of the Sopranos on DVD when Dark Eldar get a refresh, you're finally going to see a huge increase to Dark Eldar players.
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>>97962296
Can I kitbash dark eldar with wood elf bits and make it make sense?
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>>97962092
>If (you) were going to make a xenos faction/codex what would you pick?
Something like the Angels in Evangelion. Big, titan-sized eldritch abominations capable of sliming out entire worlds.
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>>97961741
>Scalping
>2014 kit
Anything old and of a diminishing quantity is going to go up in value. That's not really scalping, just collecting and reselling.
Anyway, GW or any company, can combat scalping by either producing more of a product or stop selling pre-roders to bots or by executing scalpers in the streets like the vermin they are.
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>>97962310
The Eldrazi also largely occupy the same conceptual space as this, to give an example that's more accessible to fa/tg/uys.
We don't really have anything that's interdimensional outside of the daemons, so true "warp xenos" are also kind of an untapped niche that could be filled by this faction.
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>>97962121
Votann Ironkin and Necrons are explicitly what you are describing.

And the real reason war in heaven factions like enslavers or slann or kroks would not be brought back is that GW might want to some day ten years from now have a spinoff with just xenos on xenos action that is undersupported and quietly discontinued, then in 20 the boxes are on ebay scalped for 3 or 4 times what they're worth in plastic.
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>>97962328
Only way gw is creating a spinoff for xeno-related stuff within the 40k universe (And by that i mean anything prior to the HH such as MoI's rebellion or war in heaven) is if they find a way to cram in space marines in some capacity. Not direct 1:1 astartes but some type of variety of it. Like imagine an age of strife game where you play as the Thunder Warriors, there's your spess muhreens. Or DAoT humanity already having its own brand of super soldiers, there's some spess muhreens for that shit.
Only the War in Heaven wouldn't have space marines (though you could maybe, MAYBE make an argument for Krork muhreens, but there's no spess muhreens if there's no humans)
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>>97962318
>warp xenos
I'm not 100% on niche xenos lore but do umbra cover this, or do they not have much to do with the warp?
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I got a question, where are the geneseed stored in a space marine's body?
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>>97962337
The two progenoid glands. Neck and chest cavity.
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>>97962314
>Anything old and of a diminishing quantity is going to go up in value. That's not really scalping, just collecting and reselling.
the auction ended with no one buying
Selling your dad's 1969 camaro for 100,000 dollars and no one ever buys isn't going up in value, that's you thinking your junk camaro is worth 95k more than it is.
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>>97962335
Umbra are supposed to be the bits of a god like shards of c'tan or avatars of khaine. Worshipped by the Hrud. Of course the Hrudfag is violently hostile to the idea of tall Hrud because it's a sk*venfag but Umbra as a unit in a Umbra-Hrud army would make sense.
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>>97962337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whsb5DWYiXs
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>>97962357
Huh, I never realised those two were linked either, learning new things erryday.
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>>97962343
>>97962361
Got it, thanks.
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>>97962310
Given recent developments and how popular knights/chaos knights are if I was to put my money on a fully original xenos faction it would be right here
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>Hey, you know how Fuegan, a squad of Fire Dragons, and a Wave Serpent caused many to rage due to the fact Eldar could do drive-bys? Let's sledgehammer nerf it and give Space Marines a better version of it!
WHAT THE FUCK JAMES?
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>>97962375
oh no, space marines might rise above a 40% winrate with that buff!
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Red terror rules and pre order when
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>>97962388
Plot twist, the blueberry is alpha legion, so are the other chaos marines, and so are the xenos too, they all alpharius
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>>97962092
>If (you) were going to make a xenos faction/codex what would you pick?
space ghosts, with greys and mantises and saucers and shit
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>>97962357
>tall Hrud
The xenology hruds are still remarkably smaller than humans, they're not any taller than previous depictions of hruds.
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>>97962377
I know this is some kind of exodite thing but it doesn't really jive with how they're described in lore, especially the arachnarok and the flies. You could literally have all that stuff except put the turret on a stegadon and the flyers on ripperdactyls.
>oh you just don't like alternate viewpoints of space wood elves
The dinosaurs are kind of central to their thing though and differentiate them from fantasy wood elves and craftworlders.
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>>97962469
hello space sk*venfag/"hrud"fag.
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>>97962175
>Except necrons coz how do you infect a robot)
it takes a lot of work.
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>Beastmen still gone from AoS
I'm amazed them removing Beastmen was really big news. Why was it? What army if they removed it from 40k would cause a big uproar?
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>>97962490
Beastmen got added into the old world and being able to run same army in two different game systems isn't kosher so they had to go. I would have guessed chaos demons would have gotten removed from 40k but instead they got rolled into the cult legions. So rip all of 3 guys running pure demons
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>>97962480
I'm not a skavenfag, I don't like the idea of hruds being skaven, I don't even get where you got that from.

I'm literally just telling you that you can check for yourself that the hrud in xenology is not tall at all, it's using a stolen human prosthetic hand, as point of reference
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>still leaving fingerprints in varnish 15 hours after applying it
Fuck offff
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I require more slop to purchase
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ALL TRAITORS except emperor's children ARE 5 FOOT 11 AND PRIMARIS ARE KING AND 6 FEET TALL
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>>97962511
Iirc Hruds are actually implied to be humans but evolved and time traveled back in time.
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>>97962511
you're gonna make me do autism math huh

Okay so the average human in hams of war is probably 5 foot something. The 'crons are 6 or 7 feet tall. There's also a hand in there somewhere and a pinky toe.

>>97962490
they still got slaangors and tzaangors though.
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>>97962530
I don't think that was ever actually implied anywhere, but it would certainly beat the space skaven shit.
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>>97962511
As we can see from the charts, the hrud in xenology is still up to the chest of a human soldier. While the Nocturnal warrior of Hrud looks significantly smaller.
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>>97962310
Does this mean we get plugsuit butts?
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>>97962481
I mean it from the genestealer's way of doing things, Necrons already deal with their own viruses from the destroyer cult or those freaky flayers. How is a genestealer infecting a necron, piss on a tomb world so hard it makes the necrons crave for extra limbs so we get necrons with 4 arms?
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>>97962534
>up to the chest
more like the stomach, you're missing the fact the images aren't aligned to the feet but the hand

that's not tall, or even any taller than the crouching figure
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>>97962531
What's interesting to me here is that the "kroot warrior" looks like a vespid in this. Looks more insect like instead of a bird/reptilian aliens we have now.
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>>97962511
Okay so this is broadly what a Hrud would look like, both kinds. So one is clearly shorter.
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>>97962534
This chart is wrong, eldar are the same height as space marines.
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>>97962548
anon, the one on the left is crouching...
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>>97962549
Of course the chart is wrong, firstborn aren't 8' tall but 7', sisters of battle aren't shorter than male soldiers, it's mistaking an ork nob for a boy, and fire warriors are the one caste as tall as humans.
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>>97962542
You are starting to come off as disingenuous and that is annoying

This is the chest, it comes up to about this high when aligned with the feet, if I said "up to the shoulders" that would have been what you are thinking. It does not come up to the shoulders but is demonstrably taller than the other Hrud. HENCE TALL HRUD.

Now that I think of it, your comprehension of english in general is weird.
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>>97962559
Marines are 8ft tall, that's actually accurate.
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>>97962556
Okay so this is the Hrud's leg then, is this what you are going with?

>>97962549
The question wasn't about eldar.
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>>97962561
>You are starting to come off as disingenuous
I'm not the one having the hrud stand on its tippy toes while it's a plantigrade

you can see the heel, chop chop and align better, see what happens.
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>>97962568
>Marines are 8ft tall
Only primaris.
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>>97962579
No, firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris are 9ft tall.
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>>97962584
No, firstborn are 3cm tall, while primaris are 6 millions ammah.
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>>97960996
Canonically the rebel faction are not powerful enough to really be important, so they probably are mostly ignored (though chaos still will try to fuck up anybody that get close to them)
If a rebel faction was introduced, it would be to have a large shake-up in the lore, something big enough to explain why it's there and wasn't before
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>>97962594
what kind of rebels are we talking about? because genecults and chaos cults are a fine blueprint for the kind of guerrilla fighters that stay hidden, while tau and votann would both provide an umbrella under which an independent human group could exist.
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in the grim darkness of 2026 all rifles will have picatinny rails that are a nightmare to clean up
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Primarch height
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>>97962619
>page 7
>108 images
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>>97962618
Creepy shit when you think about it
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>>97961522
>WEEEE OOOH
>WEEEE OOOH
>WEEEE OOOH
>WEEEE OOOH
>WEEEE OOOH
>WEEEE OOOH
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>>97961587
This guy gets it.
Chaos isn't good, but the Imperium is nowhere near better because it's very existance and actions do nothing but feed Chaos but also push their citizens towards it constantly due to the rampant misery within the Imperial society.
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If Chaos stems from human emotions and feelings while preying on people's souls most of the time, then just go to each planet and turn every human into an emotionless soulless autistic blank husks,
There can be no chaos if nobody, from the lowest of underhivers to the highest of nobles, has a single thought beyond working on schedule to deliver tithes, and the routine check ups means no genestealer could pop up unnoticed.
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>>97962693
>if you kill yourself your enemy can't take advantage of the fact you're alive
bravo
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>>97962693
>The imperium would win easily if they just did [thing they can't possibly do]
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>>97962755
>[thing they can't possibly do]
The rare of planets that get exterminatus'd is higher than the rate of planets that get saved, might as well pull a Kryptman and nuke planetts so Tyranids can't eat biomass, Orks can't have a fun krumpin, genestealers can't spread out, chaos can't corrupt the world, necrons can't emerge and Eldar get butthurt because a planet happened to be a maiden world too. Only faction that'd benefit from this are Votann who'd be glad to unicron chomp dead planets for the resources they have way inside.
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>>97962693
Quietude tried this and failed
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>>97962328
>GW might want to have a spinoff with just xenos
HEY JIMMY,GIMME A 40k wit NOTHING



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