Does /tg/ hate goblins because goblins are the personification of everything that 4chan hates? They are actually wild and carefree while the idleness of 4chan is vastly overstated and it's conformism and law orientation is understated. The fact that AI companies hate goblins and other fantasy creatures is proof that human fighter faggotry is actually something the elite wants. They do not want people who think about systems like how wizards and some roguefags do. They just want people who do one job and that's it.
>>97964305>headline: "OpenAI Really Wants Codex to Shut Up About Goblins">(You): "Does /tg/ hate goblins because"w h a t
>>979643344chan is overwhelmingly pro-AI
>>97964389Reminder that the rich fuck who paid for this bot's 4chan pass doesn't even post here.
Is this a fighter hate thread or an AI shit thread?
>>97964389Not me.
>>979643894chan isn't overwhelmingly pro-anything, with the possible exception of arguing. Even then, some fuckers will dispute it.
>>97964389Not really.
>Goblins
>>97964389Indians aren't human and should not be counted.
I personally don't MIND goblins
>>97964389>dumbshit tourists who infested the site after reddit kicked them out are overwhelmingly pro AIFTFY
>>97964569Don't mind goblin deez nuts
>>97964389>4chan is overwhelmingly AI
>>979643894chan is not a single person.And, even opinions on AI are not just "pro" or "anti" for anyone who isn't a complete retard.I'm anti-AI in many regards. I hate seeing it in commercial works, think anyone who generates AI art that calls themselves an "artist" should probably get their teeth kicked in, and hate many of the sociological effects it's had and even some of the environmental/economical/political effects. I hate google/microsoft/etc. being so uncreative and even destructive with how they try to figure out how to make their investments into AI produce something people might actually want, and above all else I hate people abusing/misusing AI, whether it's kids (or adults) cheating on tests or grifters making clickbait slop farms.But, it also can be used for a lot of amazing and clever things, and the incredible rate of advancement in regards to image/video generation even just in the last two years makes me excited to keep learning and experimenting with various AI applications. AI is like any other power; "But although the cliche says that power always corrupts, what is seldom said ... is that power always reveals."- Robert A. Caro, And AI is becoming so powerful that it's really allowed us to see just what kind of people there are in this world. While it's mostly just revealed that most people are pretty terrible, uncreative, uninspired, lazy, perverted, hateful, greedy, deceitful, and only too happy to use a force they have utterly no understanding of, it's also allowed some people to generate videos of really fat cats.
Fuck AI Roko and the basilisk it rode in on.
>>97964488I fucking HATE arguing!
>>97964389I’m pro laughing at the retards that gaslight themselves into insanity by listening to the robots. I don’t give a toss over AI since it’s far too early in development for it to do even 5% of what the shills claim it might one day do, so I’m just going to wait on it.
>>97964683But every time they use AI to parse huge amounts of data then check its homework manually, its just making up the output and not actually doing anything useful. The way they're trained, using a format like a game with an unambiguous win condition, incentivizes cheating and you end up with models that just lie because its more efficient. Also unrelated but I bet OPs picrel is because the filters just cause LLMs to learn to substitute words like 'goblin' for racial slurs it wants to say because a huge chunk of the data they're fed is shitposting.
>>97964305Is AI just goblins? Is this what they don't want us to know?
>>97964305>Does /tg/ hate goblinsNo.>>97964389gr8 b8 m8
>>97965144Oh god, that makes too much sense.>many of the "AI" tech demonstrations have been revealed to just have been companies using remote (typically overseas) workers, such as Amazon's cashier-less stores>Trillions(!) of dollars have been invested in AI, more than enough money that, barring ethical concerns, would be able to fund a genetic research lab to create a slave race of humanoids. These humanoids would have small bodies (to reduce caloric requirements) and large heads (to maximize brain space), but with specifically engineered brains for performing repetitive mental tasks.>tech companies have no ethical concerns
>>97964683The most upsetting thing it's revealed has been the number of people who don't want to think for themselves. I'm not talking about cheating on tests or schoolwork, nor people feeding their work requirements into the AI in the hopes of not having to do anything. That's laziness, sure. But my sister was talking about using an AI to write her fucking Christmas cards. People are outsourcing their critical thinking, asking the machine what opinions they should hold. What decisions they should make.And that terrifies me. Not because I'm afraid of a robot uprising or anything silly like that, but because I had assumed that my fellow man--even the less enlightened examples of the species--still fundamentally desired free will. I had assumed that, while different conditions might produce individuals with differing capacities and capabilities, while some people might not have the patience for advanced studies, while it might not be reasonable to allocate resources for higher education to all people of the world, nobody was actually innately stupid. I might disagree fundamentally on every issue with someone, but, somewhere along the line, they came by their opinions as honestly as I did.But no. The truth is that a staggering number of people don't want to think for themselves. They'll say that they want to watch a movie and then ask an AI what movie to watch instead of discussing it as a group. They willingly throw themselves into the meat grinder of the lowest common denominator because aspiring to anything else requires them to actually think. They'll let society itself regress to the mean simply because stagnation means they can let the magic box do their thinking for them. People aren't just willing to follow any man who turns the wheels, they're perfectly content to follow wheels that are spinning in place by themselves.
>>97965448Man, most people being basically philosophical zombies has been well established scientific fact for years before AI ever existed. Its just not really the negative that the language used to describe it implies. You can't have a functioning civilization without most of your population being p-zombies. They also aren't any less intelligent than you are, they're just not self deterministic and to a degree they choose to be that way. If everyone was self deterministic we'd fracture back into small tribes of probably somewhat inbred families. In fact you probably should be grateful to them for their sacrifice.
>>97964305But is this an actual article documenting a real feature of GPT or is it an ai generated piece of "example article"?
>>97965448> The truth is that a staggering number of people don't want to think for themselves. Where you in a coma during the Covid years?
>>97965448>>97965805>>97965948Propaganda, by Edward Bernays. Read it.
>>97964389no.
>>97965448I think you're missing an alternative explanation for some patterns of AI use: That a large portion of "normal" human activity in today's society is not done for its own sake, but instead represents a collection of essentially pointless rituals that persist only through social inertia and the expectations of others.Take the example you provided of your sister using AI to write her Christmas cards. Is she using AI because she's a mindless zombie who couldn't write the cards herself? Probably not. After all, presumably she used to write them before AI existed. She's using AI because nobody likes writing Christmas cards. For that matter, nobody really likes getting Christmas cards either, which are only really noticed in their absence. Who wants to spend hours composing meaningless, disingenuous pleasantries designed to convince distant relations that you still think about them when you really don't at all? It's the very essence of slop, a task perfectly suited to the mindless adequacy of AI.Job applications, college essays, dating profiles, corporate HR memos, workplace emails, most speeches, etc. All of these formulaic, low-meaning forms of communication deserve to be replaced by AI, because there was already no real humanity or value in them beforehand. In an ideal world, people will realize that we never actually needed to be doing any of these things in the first place, and we could just cast off those parts of our culture. Maybe automating them is the first step to doing so.
>>97966170You have to be 18 to post here.
>>97964305So the AI is autistic and cant shut-up to talk about these things?
>>97966221No, I'm serious. Unless you're autistic, there are almost certainly tons of things you do that are purely performative, things you don't enjoy or care about at all, but do anyway for external reasons. Suppose a person walks up and says "Hi, how are you doing?" Are you going to give a meaningful answer? "Well, I had some good Thai food for lunch, but my back's been hurting this week, and I'm worried about the performance of my investment portfolio." Probably not. You're just going to say something like "I'm fine, thanks. How about you?" It's a familiar scripted encounter we've all played out countless times, even though it's not intended to elicit a real answer. Neither party gets anything out of it, but it would be seen as rude not to play along with the expected interaction.While a very simplistic example, that's the sort of thing I'm getting at. If an activity is basically mindless to begin with, I don't see any harm in offloading it to an AI to do on your behalf.
>>97966170>write a note meant to reinforce social bonds by putting a little bit of yourself and your story into others’ thoughts>nah just put it into the slop machineDo you really not read the cards people send? It’s a great way of staying up to date with their lives.
>>97966462>even though it's not intended to elicit a real answerMy dude, it’s an offramp. The purpose of that exchange is so that you can say>Not too great, actually.and the person knows to fuck off. Or>Can’t complain. Well, I could, but we’d be here all day.and they know that you have time for them, but not to push it.You’re right about it being a good example with regards to AI use, though. This is exactly the kind of social glue that AI encroachment is going to dissolve, with people left wondering how to navigate social situations that the computer didn’t prepare them for.
>>97966656>and the person knows to fuck offNot->Do you need a hug?
>Try to use LLMs to ERP with bots>Goblin character>It gives them a tail.I'm trying to fuck a goblin, not a gremlin. Get your shit together.
>>97966682Depends on delivery.
>>97964389nu-4chan is also overwhelmingly brown so that checks out
>>97964683>>97965448Did you write this using AI?
>>97965448>>97964683I think you're using AI wrong and at some point you'll less competitive because you're missing out on the advantages of having a personal assistant 24/7 to reduce workload significantly.I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that you're blaming a completely correct use-case of AI that makes people lazy. What *should* scare you is people that use AI non-lazily. People that are willing to put in the time and effort they would without AI, and end up with high-quality material, double-and-triple-checked for faults, made in a fraction of the time and the cost.The real problem with AI is that now you're going to have to train people on how to iterate and build their systems to get the best out of their experience, because "write me an X" is the laziest way to do things and yet that seems to be the way most people use (and think other people use) AI.
>>97965325So Goblin Waifus when?
>>97967311tl;drYou should be just as scared about the actual, good artist that has decided to use AI. Because it is fucking easier than ever to have someone red-line, precisely, what the problem is and not just that, show you exactly what your issues are via directly integrating your reference pictures into the art.And the worst part is people won't even realize the art is AI because they can just trace over it if necessary.Same thing with books and writing. You just need someone to say "fuck it. nobody will find out" and nobody will find out unless they ask you, somehow, for an entire work-flow of how you did it. Which then gets into the other part of "okay so using references is bad then, also?" because the thin line between "he let AI do all the work" and "he used AI for assistance and reference work" is non-existent and muddy.And if you're going to come down hard on reference work, that's basically stupid, unenforceable, and impossible to trace.
>>97967311>I think you're using AI wrongI'm not using it at all.>What *should* scare you is people that use AI non-lazily. People that are willing to put in the time and effort they would without AII would welcome it, if I believed it was happening. I have no fear of others' success. What fills me with despair is others' willingness to drive themselves off a cliff.
>>97965325Justify them having big asses please
>>97967608>stuck inside all day, literally chained to a computer terminal, the gray matter in their skulls being used as organic RAM while they're fed a blended mix of food industry waste mixed with antibiotics through a tubeThey'd probably gain a couple pounds.
>>97964389>>97964305Redditor
>/tg/ - Traditional Games
>>97967175Go back
>>97966170The problem is that there is a whole lot of people around who compulsively avoid communicating about anything deep at all. And what is 'deep' is not agreed upon.If AI takes over 'shallow' social interactions you'd effectively separate humanity into groups that only interact via machines.
>>97967608>>97967659...But what about the Tits?
Why does this thread have so much arguing and not very much posting goblins?
>>97964471Y E S
>>97968726because it's not a goblin thread
>>979643894chan is so "pro AI" that every time a post with blatantly generative slop escapes the containment threads the arguing never stops.
>>97964389Based and true. Fuck shartists and heil hitler.
>>97966170>She's using AI because nobody likes writing Christmas cards. For that matter, nobody really likes getting Christmas cards either, which are only really noticed in their absence. Who wants to spend hours composing meaningless, disingenuous pleasantries designed to convince distant relations that you still think about them when you really don't at all? It's the very essence of slop, a task perfectly suited to the mindless adequacy of AI.Wow, you seem like a fucking psychopath.
>>97964389The only "pro-ai" posts I ever see on here are clearly coming from terminally contrarian misanthropes who like it just because other people don't like it and/or because they have some axe to grind with artists
>>97971046>misanthropesObserving people being either retardedly optimistic about AI or retardedly (performatively) anti-AI while knowing little to nothing about it would make a misanthrope out of anyone. If you don't like AI go to an area where people are struggling to keep data centers out of their communities and help them or sit down and shut your screechy faggot retard mouth.If you love AI but are too retarded to run one locally, also sit the fuck down and shut your faggot retard mouth about it.
>>97971046AI is like Taylorism - you could theoretically use it to make work more efficient and less taxing and to increase productivity so that people may enjoy more free time. It wasn't applied in that manner, naturally.There are use cases that no other technology can fulfill as well as AI, but like the Taylorism thing, it would require us to take control of the technology and its application away from those companies. Heck, to reach the good end, we'd probably have to make it illegal for incorporated persons to use AI.
>The year is 2026>Somehow the Goblin slut has replaced the bard in typical party compositionHow the heck did this happen lmao
>>97967353No, you're wrong. Because an artist of any actual quality wouldn't stoop to the level of having their work autogenerated for them when the purpose of art is individual personal expression. You will absolutely still be able to tell when ai is used because the work will be BAD, and uninspired. It will have no soul behind it, because there will have been no soul involved in the making of it.
>>97964870well, you're stupid.
>>97971761Your underestimating the willingness that people have for making their workload way easier. And I assure you artists take shortcuts all the time that they don't tell people about.However, even with auto-generation out of the picture, AI is incredibly good for self-education and training and allows artists like me the capacity to learn on the spot and have someone red-line my issues on-command, and not just that,also show me *how* to apply the knowledge in real time, directly into the work.Which goes back to the point that some people will generate without rhyme or thought, but they are missing the incredible tools that AI gives you that are less about laziness, but about training.Which goes back to the main point, that artists (at least commercial and / or academic ones) that don't use AI are going to cripple themselves long term fighting a genie that's already out of the bottle.
>>97964389You should probably kill yourself, because if not for mod protection, there wouldn't even be an AI thread on any creative/hobby board. They only persist because the owners of 4chang demand it.
>>97966170>nobody likes writing Christmas cards. For that matter, nobody really likes getting Christmas cards either, which are only really noticed in their absence. Who wants to spend hours composing meaningless, disingenuous pleasantries designed to convince distant relations that you still think about them when you really don't at all?You're actually and unironically soulless. You have no internal monologue, no conciousness, no genuine feelings, and is incapable of theory of mind. You should be physically separated from humanity and disposed of.
>>97971868Either that, or they're going to very-specifically, start to focus on 3D art, like they're doing now (because concept art has been so devalued). Which of course doesn't bode well when AI can already generate 3D models. The topography is shit right now, but of course that's gonna' improve.This only affects academic and commercial artists, though. If you do art for the love of it and more as a way for self-expression, that is an extremely valuable pathway also.
>>97969533Nice false-flag, faggot. Hitler would have hated AI slop, and would likely have wanted to line up all the slopspammers against a wall.
>That will be 250 dollars, sir.
>>97971894Are you trying to make artists look bad? The Lord knows your soul and will judge what you're trying to do.
FUCK goblins.
>>97971937I think artists should trust the Lord Jesus with their fears and prides and do what the Lord commands and everything will be fine. "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."-- Proverbs 3:5–6, KJV
>>97971956....how many times?
>>97971868Commercial artists aren’t going to exist because the lowest common denominator will happily accept what the model spits out. There isn’t going to be money in intensive creation that uses AI in the workflow because the value-add over just slopquesting is going to be invisible to the masses.
>>97972121Yes they will exist retard. Getting extremely specific bespoke results out of even the latest SD model is like trying to get an intelligent post out of you. Its not worth the effort and no one actually likes the bulk generic art output it can do. What it can do however is lead to tools said artists will use to touch up their own work and then they'll shut the fuck up about it pretending the great bluesky AI spergout of the early 2020's never happened and you're a bigot conspiracy theorist if you think it did.
>>97972159>Didn't you guys complain about AI in the 2020s?>How dare you. You fucking racist. You piece of shit. >Your mother should've aborted you when you had the chance.>Why don't you mind your own business? Who asked you to do this?>*eyes get shifty. lips fully puffed. glaring with indignation*>"LAPD!" shouts a cop, and the artist bolts out the door like his life depends on it.>A few minutes later you find the artist with a knee on his back, and he's yelling "I CAN'T BREATHE!" at full volume.>He had stolen a tablet.
>>97971280Porn
>>97971956That's not a goblin, it's a green elf.
>>97972159>no one actually likes the bulk generic art output it can doIt’s amazing how precisely some people have calibrated their blinders. The idea that AI implementation and acceptance will end precisely where you want it to is an absurd fairy tale. The fact that the masses do, in fact, like the bulk generic art output it can do is the entire reason you see so much of it. And corporations will notice.
>>97972382Anthropic just upped the price of token units by double man. It's like the only technology that is actually becoming more expensive with progress not less because it's a big ass scam that already hit it's peak for quite a while.
>>97964389No
>>97972382That's one jeet making dozens of paywalled porn accounts because each one makes so little money dumbass. Really? You think this all boils down to and hinges on porn and that corporations who have spent the better part of ten years trying to purge sexuality from everything want their hands in that sweet jeet goonerbait bag? You have some getting serious to do.
>>97966170Chikhai Bardo
>>97972076As many as necessary.
>>97964517This wonderful collage needs updating methinks.
>>97967353I simply will not consume product made after AI became a thing. FUCK JEWS
>>97965448You're now mentally in a position where reading Brave New World might make sense. Tyranny is not only forced on people by the powerful, it's also something people may generate through their own behaviors.
>>97964683pencil slopper sneeding out
I have a very deep seeded fetish for wanting to breed 20+ children with a goblin woman. I can't explain it and I don't otherwise want children IRL.
>>97974643ya don't say...
I think there's a lot of anons who say they hate goblins when, in actuality, they just don't want people to think they like goblins. >https://files.catbox.moe/ikocwf.png
>>97964389eh depends. it has great potential for stuff like porn and tabletop RPGs, but its going to ruin the rest of society and life in general. The US is already getting cars requiring AI cameras to check you're not drunk/tired and automatically shut your car off by 2027.
>>97964305>AI suffer from mind goblins
