I’m just gonna say it White Scars are the most wasted concept in all of Warhammer 40,000 like bro… you’re telling me we have SPACE MARINES, literal genetically engineered demigods on MOTORCYCLES, and instead of leaning into PEAK samurai kino, they go “uhhh yeah let’s base them on Mongols” ???WHO asked for thisimagine the missed potential:>power armor kabuto helmets> giant glowing katanas that are also chainswords (chain-katanas?? hello??>dueling on top of titans like it’s some Seven Samurai in space>but nooooo instead we get “go fast on bike” lore and wind poetry or whatever>and before some lore nerd jumps in with “uhhh actually Jaghatai Khan is based on steppe culture and that’s the POINT” yeah I get it dude, I read the wiki too, I just think it’s WRONGyou cannot convince me that space samurai wouldn’t instantly be 1000x coolerlike tell me you wouldn’t buy that army immediately don’t lieGW really looked at the coolest aesthetic possible and said “nah, let’s swerve for historical accuracy in my SPACE DEMON WAR GAME”absolute clown show
Shut up
>>97970222Why don’t you post your own models instead of a magazine catalog larper
>>97970208Sorry, but the samurai aesthetics belong to the Eldar
>>97970208>and instead of leaning into PEAK samurai kino, they go “uhhh yeah let’s base them on Mongols”No space marine chapter is supposed to be just X thing in space. They're all supposed to be blends of various influences.Modern GW is very bad at capturing this, yes. But you are a retard if you think they should just replace mongol elements with samurai elements. No, they're supposed to be mixing both, and other things too.
>>97970251The modern scars are literally a mix of Mongol, and Eastern European with even Buddhist, Chinese, and samurai in their lore Your all larpers or bots
We already have a Samurai chapter
marinefags really are the most insufferable faggots ever
We already have an eastern inspired warrior caste with strict honor codes and weird rites like stabbing yourself, another one is redundantI also think that mongols and eastern europeans like cossacks and the like are way more neat than samurai, just on the basis off not being portrayed as often and me being obsessed with mongolian culture and the steppes
>>97970208>t. Weebington Basementdweller Pillowhumper IV, Esq.Fuck off back to your pedo cartoons, freak.
>>97970208we have a gorillion samurai-inspired things and 0 mongolian stuff, you should treasure esoteric cultures
>>97970208While samurai were incredibly skilled at horseback, I think it makes sense that they’re based on Mongols who basically are The Mounted Army. When the average person thinks of Mounted Armies, their first thought goes to the Mongols. Make your own Samurai army, with Guardsmen Ashigaru if you want that.
>>97970679>oh no he's hot
>>97970208True
>>97970222No
>>97970208Mongols are one of the most successful warrior cultures that ever existed and their culture and fighting notably relies on horses and mounted combat for every man, not just specific people, but EVERYONE is mounted, so would make sense for a bike focused army more than samurai who were mostly ashigaru spearmen or dismounted archers.
>Some of the greatest conquerors the world has ever seenvs>Some dweebs who mostly fought each other
>>97970208White Cars
>>97970208White Scars, like most loyalist chapters, are way better represented in 30kThe problem is how constrained modern 40k is in terms of lore and rules
>>97970208>samuraiGAYYYYYYYYYYY
>>97970208Why get rid of the White Scars when you can get rid of one of the lame chapters like the Blood Angels or the Imperial Fists or like any chaos undivided renegade chapter (except Nightlords and Word Bearers of course)
>>97970208Tau are the samurai. You just don’t like mongols for some reason, the bikes are the horses, maybe they should lean into that more
>>97970208Gayest post yet made on 4chan.org
>>97970208>Hmm, should we base our asian chapter on the largest contiguous empire in history or some manlets who couldn't even manage to conquer Korea?Samurai are the most overrated warriors in history, right up there with the Spartans.
>>97978864Nice claim and yet the Mongols could not defeat Japan
>>97970208>40k >WEEB 40k>WEEB 40k WHININGGood thread.
>>97970208>Design a chapter of the space marines around LITERALLY one of if not the most successful conquering cultures in all of human history. >Dont design it around muh nipon steel wielding warriors of honor who really were just glorified bandits with namesGee i wonder fucking why they went that way. Maybe because they knew that trying to appeal to a weeb audience would be way to on the nose and everyone would hate them by proxy of being weebs.
most people are too dumb to pick up on this but the main marine chapters are all loosely inspired by irl biker chapterslike Hells Angels >> Blood Angels, Dark AngelsSpace wolvesWhite Scars >>> MongolsBeats me why people dont get this
>>97979080If your badass warrior culture needs the weather to save them from invasion, they're not very badass
>>97979493sounds like Russia
Japan at their peak raped a bunch of chinks.Mongols at their weakest raped every chink, every persian and almost every european.Yeah I will pick the steppe pony riders, weeb.
>>97979508ashkully Mongols conquered all of asia down to Indonesia but were stopped going further by Australian Aborigines.And in Europe they only curb stomped Slavs and were defeated by Western Europeans.Then Western Europeans conquered the entire globe and the Anglos created the largest Empire in history.Mongols weren't that great desu.
>>97970208Allegedly at one point in the early '90s the White Scars were something like the fourth or fifth most popular chapter.
>>97979550nonsense. They werent an officially supported chapter, they were popularised by Sawyer
>>97979541Sour grapes.
>>97979587IDK, I remember reading it years ago in a fanmag or something, might've been a poll. IIRC it claimed Blood Angels made #1.
>>97979541also defeated by Mumaluks in africa
>>97979541Based.
>>97970208Putting aside the samurai thing (although a successor chapter of White Scars based on that would indeed be kino imho), I do have trouble taking them - and most "our entire culture is based around SPEED" factions - seriously.Like, I get the optimal thing is to have a faction's lore fit with its gameplay, but here it just feels so obvious that it breaks my suspension of disbelief - even by Warhammer standards.The only faction I can think of that manages to pull this off as far as I'm concerned are the Orks and the Evil Sunz, because being this obvious works with them.But taking the entire Mongol culture as an excuse to go "gotta go fast"? I agree, that seems like wasted potential to me.
>>97981402Thats what the White Scars are they are the speedfreaks of marinesalso bear in mind>>97979429Mongol motorcycle club
Yeah
>>97981413That's my point, I have trouble seeing them as ANYTHING but the speedfreaks of marines. Blood Angels, Space Wolves and Black Templars are all melee specialists, but they are much more than just that.I don't doubt that some people must have tried to make something more of the White Scars, but I have yet to see it.
>>97981469>blood angelspersonally i always disliked them forcing the jump pack thing on blood angels. When theres ravenguard that already have that and the dark angels have an entire fast attack wing.>space wolvestheir deal used to be unconventional unit structures like assault squads with no jump pack, tact squads with melee weapons, sergeants in terminator armour and stuff like that.BT had a similar unconventional unit structures like mixed units too.White scars being bike focused is cool.
>>97970222Checked, FPBPOPWNBAJ
>>97970208japan is fucking gay
>>97970208Mongols are cooler than samurai you fucking weeb
>>97970208thank god you are nowhere near the 40k design team. Slop like that is going to be the downfall of this setting. kindly fuck off
>>97970208the mongol empire was the coolest shit ever, you can go take your bad opinion and shove it up your ass.
>>97970208There's a million nipslop samurai things for you to immerse yourself in instead. Let us have this one thing.
>dueling on top of titans like it’s some Seven Samurai in spaceHave you seen Seven Samurai? It's not a big katana duel movie.
>>97977136For most of their existence samurai were also mounted horse archers.However, while samurai whined and quarreled over their tiny spect of dirt, the Mongols conquered much of the fucking world. Japs are a fucking joke
>>97979497Everyone knows Russian warrior culture is dying, becoming slaves, and having their whorish women immediately spread legs for the victors
>>97970208Fuck off Tourist.
>>97970208Just convert it yourself.
