>>97974659
Well it is nice to know apparently I could have had super powers WITHOUT turning into a butt ugly sewer monster. Fuck this unlife.

>>97975800
Why were you embraced? Did your Sire ever tell you why you became a vampire?

>>97975814
Sire wanted someone a bit more 'up to date' on the bookkeeping, modern tech and general purpose business matters and also wanted someone who went to waste his life in college. Local nossies had leaned a little too much into hobos, lowlifes, rednecks and the like and they needed someone a bit more 'fresh' in skills and knowledge.

I also miiight have had already done a lot of work in pyramid scheme marketing which is one reason why the other night I mentioned not asking questions about who is higher on the pyramid. Honestly, horrible appearance aside it ain't too bad. My sire's actually LESS awful than some of the human bosses I've had and he actually appreciate my work. I'm way more worried about pissing off the rest of the Cammies vamps than my sire if I'm being honest.

>>97975800
would ye prefer to be fucked in the head like the malkavians? off in your own cosmic cuck chair like the toreadors unable to do the things that inspire you well? be on the files because your a ventrue allergic to post-pubescent blood?
yea we aint got sunshine and rainbows but ill take our garbage over some of the other insidious mental stuff

>>97976465
I mean no offense but, in the age of mass surveillance and drones, do you not fear the clans you just mentioned will eventually decide to pull the plug and kick you out the Camarilla?

>>97977334
I mean there's a reason why almost every nosferatu clique I've meet has focused on being useful while still persuing their own goals. It's fairly laudible but at the same time, no doubt it's partially motivated by also being some of the most replusive vampires. While not phased by pure ugliness like most humans, seldom do most vampires (or the cammies at least) like to be reminded of the monsters they are, which makes the nosferatu an easy bully boy and punching bag for a lot of them.
>I caught one in my bathroom one time, don't know how long he had been in there. Just chilling, taking notes presumably. It's true.

>>97975534
The haven of the Prince of Innsbruck. On its own, a very impressive manor, achieving that perfect balance between opulence and restraint that I have come to expect from Blue Bloods. As I was there as a guest of the Prince's, I know that I did not uncover all of its secrets. Tempting as it is, to explore every nook and cranny of your host's haven is to court final death. Still, it was a staggeringly tasteful manor. The observatory was wonderful, and it had a notable library beneath it. I'm not much for dancing, but the ballroom was likewise impressive in its construction, filled with all manner of beautiful decorations both occidental and oriental. I also found the Prince himself to be surprisingly good company. He completely lacked the bitter undercurrent I have found common among European Princes.

Though I must admit some bias, it was constructed in the early 18th century, which made me nostalgic in ways I have not felt since I was a mortal. It reminded me of the estate I served in when I was a child.

>>97977334
>>97977633
you familiar with the term 'kompromat'? oh sure, the services of my people are vital, but they're one hand of the relationship.
see, if anyone ever decided to do something unthinkably idiotic, i'm pretty sure we have a range of options. everything from 'elder toppling unlife ruining personal packages' to the nuclear 'the sabbat would cream emselves cause the masquerade is over. get bent.'

so lets all keep being 'good neighbours' yea?

>>97977741
Look I'm not saying I would want it, or you would deserve it, or it would be free of consequences, or it wouldn't be an unbelievably stupid idea, all I'm saying is... the Camarilla might do it anyway.
Another prank by the Malkavians...

>>97977334
I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Its not like at my age I wasn't raised on 'oh no, doomsday you'll die some day because of X'. Nothing's changed beside the fact I'm ugly and biologically dead. There's always some assholes who rule over me and could fuck me over. Seriously the only thing that changed for me is I live in dumpsters and sewers and look like ass.

Hell even my job security and work being appreciated is overall BETTER as a vamp. Beside I had a cancer on remission and my family has a history with it so its not like my human lifespan was garanteed.

>>97977829
worse comes to worse the camarilla is over
at that point, knives come out, and odds are either the ventrue or the tremere are left with whatever isn't collapsed.

>>97977741
I thought it best left unsaid, but as
>>97977829
points out, it's a dagger that's sharp as hell against one and dull against many. Oddly enough I never thought that cancel culture was one of ours, turns out when you're undead the idea of being 'unpersonned' is a bit laughable.

>Good Neighbors
Brother, I am your best neighbor. Excuse my heavy feet.

>>97977829
>Prank by the Malkavians
It would be an interesting excercise. Perhaps a bit of Kriegsspiel is in order. Let's not naysay each other, but in a positive contributing manner what would happen.
>On LIVE tv?
>That's right the revealed and prooved beyond a shadow of a doubt on LIVE tv that vampires exist
>I thought it was aliens
>No, VAMPIREs the whole time live amongst us, feeding on us, killing us
>And infront of 50 million live viewers and online enthusiests, there's no way there's no way they are getting that Genie back in the bottle.
Probably the most immediate of effects would be an increase in Religiousity I presume. The existance of literal bloodsuckers could not work any other way I think. Second I would say that the princes of almost every city and that entire power rank among Anarchs and Sabbat as well would be very uncomfortable place to be. Schemes from beneath, but also many eldar vampires who see themselves as above the 'day to day' would come into play in this new up for grabs world. Any weak prince gets toppled, any strong prince still has to contend that their entire power structure which was based on secrecy now has to reform to one based on Strength? Perhaps PR management? And they have to deal with the Camarillah as an secret organization ceasing to exist and with every other weak prince being disposed, which would only add pressure to their own set up.

Nossies and Malkavians thriving on secrecy and chaos would do good in the short term at least.

>>97978019
I'm not so sure, I think the mages and ventrue both rely on power structures that might disappear or be disrupted.

>>97978754
>No, VAMPIREs the whole time live amongst us, feeding on us, killing us
He's just a Gollum cosplayer.

>>97978754
no. its a dagger people dont think applies to them.
i know im not privy to the full extent of the dead-man switch contents but everyone except the no-contact gangrels have weaknesses and faultlines that at best ruin unlives. at worst- shouldn't even have to fucking say it. god you people dont even know how much we do in the algorithm age to keep surveillance states full of false positives. even just stopping that would expose half the fucking camarillas ass to the GLOBEHUN network.

>I'm not so sure, I think the mages and ventrue both rely on power structures that might disappear or be disrupted.
i said theyd be holding the bag, not that ninety five percent of the bag had been turned to dust. and that theyd follow shortly after.

almost like starting the MAD scenario is fucking stupid

Eh, the human politicians are already fucking vampires in their own way. If anything I'd say we're not really that scary compared to how monstrously fucked human society has been for me at least the monstrous side's on the outside of people I hang with now.

At least, that's what I tell myself when feeding. That if not me it would be some whackjob gutting that person with a knife for a few $$ or shooting up their kids in a school. Who cares if I'm drinking some poor lowlife sob, life will fuck him over sooner or later anyway so I'm just speeding up the process.

Fuck am I starting to sound like an Anarch? Some of the guys I've talked to think I'm a bit too hands off with the ghouls. Shit I even paid some of them for their work.

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>>97975534
The best one doesn't really count as a haven

But the best actual haven would to be Hatshepsup's old place out in the back behind her club. She always had a stocked bar and no matter how messed up I was, she helped me. It was also basically an Elysium for the Marquette people back before it all went bad, because we didn't really have one. Every time the Pro-Cammie folks tried to make one somebody self-sabotaged so we all ended up meeting in the parking lot behind Hatshepsup's strip club when we had meetings.

Oh right gotta doreadingsshitfuckfuarkeraaaaaaaa

>The password is ST1Cky_Cur8
>Invest in a cassette player
>The lucky number of the day is 1962
>HE IS WORSE THAN A MONSTER HE IS A BLIND FOOL
>You get to be either the lobster or the boiling water, so choose fast
>Melodies of the Raga serve the humble and the clever in equal measures
>MINE ILL HANG YOU FROM A TREE, SLIT YOU LENGTHWISE AND PISS IN THE BOWL, GET YOUR OWN FUCKING LITHIUM

>>97979154
>Who cares if I'm drinking some poor lowlife sob, life will fuck him over sooner or later anyway so I'm just speeding up the process.

You do clearly. Which is better than not caring even if it feels like someone shoved a welding solder in your butt! It'd be easier to not, I know for me like- cause-- well I could probably shut down the bad thoughts completely cause I lure in bad people usually. Can't though. That's the little death that grinds you down.

Like a room with a floor made of rolling sandpaper. Just- less dramatic you know?

>>97979355
Well look, I'm not pretending to be what I'm not. I'm certainly not a 'nice' vampire, I don't pretend to be: one of the first thing I did when I got the hang of my new form was to go drink and drive insane some asshole from a past job I wanted revenge against. Pure revenge fantasy and it felt good going OOGA BOOGA I AM MONSTER until the dude had a stroke. At least initially. That said, my sire put me in charge of his fencing operation and there's not a whole lot to gain from just being a dick 24/7 to the ghouls.

Beside, they know the punishment for the REAL, complete and utter fuck up. On a good night, we break their limbs and keep them alive as long as we can with vitae. On a bad day? We promise to embrace them. Sure we can't without the Prince's permission last I checked but they don't know this. Last guy who opened his mouth about even hinting being a ghoul we turned his limbs into pretzels using bricks and baseball bats.

>>97979416
We all pretend to be something we're not silly.

You just have one less mask to hide behind for that picture you paint for yourself. But there's always more inside. I'm just trying to give you a warning while my lucidity holds out you know? Something I knid of try to internalize myself, just cause I still get bad mood swings even being medicated.

All this ranges from mafia to death cult to something else. Don't be afraid to look at your long term options, cause like- forever is a long time. And you are your own Monarch when you realize it.

>>97975534
my own. once in the back kostantiniyye i had a small miserable apartment in the underground that for all the toil i went through there was the first home i knew. thanks to a spell gifted to my by a sephardic sorcerer it was unseen by friends and foes alike.

though i have set myself up well enough in my current dominion, i still harbour fond memories of the place.

>>97977678
there is no shame in admitting a bias. certainly i have feelings about innsbruck and austria overall, coming from being in the sphere of the house osmangolu. a part of why i never leave helllas these nights.

How goes the battle for Winnipeg? When do I start spiking and who?

>>97979898
Turk or native Greek born after the Ottoman conquest? In either case, while I was born in Österreich (in a village near Linz), I hardly have any real attachments these nights. I'm like a ghost to mortals, makes it hard to stay grounded with places and peoples. I don't begrudge others their... grudges, but I find it increasingly hard to relate.

>>97981354
i never truly knew. one night i woke on a street in rags, midway through the 1600s, no memory of anything before. with how oft i fought against the powers that be then i always thought i was greek for all intents and purposes but... it would be a lie to say i don't miss having the assamites constantly trying to kill me. or being roped into fighting with them, at times. i do not respect my current neighbours the way i respect them.

yours is a common malady for our kind. one i have avoided by maintaining a kin-group of ghouls and a place on the fringe of camarilla society. if you find yourself in hellas, i will oblige you a few nights in the old crypt.

>>97979285
Nice place, Kitten. Reminds me of this one spot that we shacked up in for about a week a couple of years ago; this old arcade/pool hall. Just add a human mural on a wall courtesy of Mateo and donations by some of the patrons - you know how Toreador are about their art.

>be male Tremere
>nerdy 5’6” beta
>have Tzimisce fetish
>get drunk off kine blood during a comic con
>find female Tzimisce who is oddly friendly
>be dumbass and tell her how much bubble butt muscle stud men turn me on
>she turns herself into a chiseled beefcake version of herself
>instant boner
>I fuck her, now him, for the rest of the night
>give each others phone numbers, still fuck whenever we can
>actually develop feelings for a Fiend
>An actual, honest to God Tzimisce is in love with me

This won’t end well for me, will it?

>>97982537
bro, as a junior novice of noddist lore, like, 60% of modern clan politics descends from a tori-ventrue-tzimsice polycule getting out of hand and exploding.
your pretty screwed, but for some reason people really like the dragon push.

Hi, first timer here. Been working as handyman and driver for a rural mansion of some really out of touch, really old money folks who came to the US of A out of western Ukraine, or a vampire movie more like. But they call me the vampire (vampir) while they are The Nobility® (Arystokratiya, Dvoryanstvo).
What's the difference between a vampire and a noble? Asking here cause all but their youngest don't like personal questions and act like everything's obvious.

>>97981557
I appreciate the offer of hospitality. Have you ever deduced your clan? It certainly sounds as if you have unlived an interesting unlife.

I've always found the idea of respecting an enemy to be fascinating. I personally have never felt so inclined, but I do my best to avoid making enemies. I'm somewhat nonconfrontational by nature, I am a master of avoidance and evasion. In the very rare occasion where that is insufficient, I'll kill them in whatever manner is most effective. As for my malady, you don't know the half of it. A blessing and a curse.

>>97983037
Sounds like a gaggle of especially pretentious Tzimisce if you ask me.

>>97983122
>Tzimisce
So what are those? I better not say that word out loud even if I can't pronounce it. Oh and if I'm not one of them, whatever they are... what am I?

>>97982537
What is this comic con? Why are vampires of multiple sects frequenting this presumably kine event? How did you even learn this person was a Tzimisce, let alone without providing your own clan?

>>97983037
I'm going to agree with >>97983122 and say Tzimisce are the likely candidates. Ventrue will let you know they're Ventrue and Lasombra would've beaten you thrice by now. Though it still makes little sense...

>>97983144
Oh god in heaven you have no idea what any of this is. How did you even find this place if you don't know what a vampire is?

>>97979149
>almost like starting the MAD scenario is fucking stupid
I mean you were just bragging about holding the MAD files. I agree it is a bit silly, I can't blame the nossies, but I do think Cammies need to work together and not just in a 'as long as this further's my politics' kind of way. Pipe dreams, I know.

>>97983158
>Lasombra would've beaten you thrice by now.
Um the wives of the lord of the house here manage and oversee of the servants, and they are evil. Straight up evil. I'm talking pre-Abe Lincoln evil.

His sons train swordplay too and use me as training dummy. They don't go easy, def not after I miraculously got a hit on one. All 3 jumped on me, then the lord is like: "If you want to kill him, do it in a formal single combat." Thanks boss also the hell is wrong with you all.

The turnover among the girls is high, but at least we have Ms. Rafastio who knows how to patch us and even set bones, but when I need her help she wants my physical intimacy as payment.
>Oh god in heaven you have no idea what any of this is. How did you even find this place if you don't know what a vampire is?
Sorry if I'm clueless. Most Orthodox Churches in the area are Greek, which Wikipedia tells me they belong to the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople. Anyway one night I ask Fr. Gerasimos if he can pray for the soul of Zoryana, the daughter of our lord (lower case) cause she's the only Noble that's ever said "sorry" to me, and I just want her not to become a monster like the other ladies, and I'm not very religious or worthy so there's no need he prays for me.

Like one night a maid came to my room and she started stripping and pointing at her neck and I had no clue what she's up to, tho I freaked out thinking what happens if any of the ladies spots us, guess what, Raven-hair's already on the case, ordered us to go to the cell downstairs with Zoryana, handed her the "vhip" and told her to beat us with it. And Zoryana, bless her soul, said: "I'm sorry", "Forgive me" and so on after every lash, until another wife commanded her to shut up.

Anyway Fr. Gerasimos says he has to go to the crypt then he's back with a written note. He said that he'll be praying for both of our souls and that I may find advice, comfort, and maybe one day even freedom.

And that's how I found this website

>>97983299
First, would you mind if you answer some questions?

1: How precisely did you come into their employ?

2: Do you have a thirst for blood?

3: Are you alive? Does your heart beat, is your skin warm to the touch, can you still eat normal food, etc.

4: Do you feel an intense urge to sleep during the day? How about the "nobles"?

5: Do you have any proof the "wives" and "sons" are actually this lord's children?

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>The Winnipeg "Situation" (Recap 1)
Alright. Before I begin with the recap of last night's events, I need you to keep something in mind: Loups are nuts.

>Before the real shitfest with the Sectarians began, everyone in the war council more or less agreed we needed to deal with the Loup Transplants first.
>I won't give you numbers for their protection, but there was one primary 'pack' that was an issue, the 'Silk-Biters' as I'll call them.
>Unpleasant lot, mostly due to a position similar to the 'sabbat-on-kine' views. But they were divided and hunting anything that moved.
>Now, let me tell you about 'Maddog.'
>I met Maddog in Cali, he's an odd creature closer to a coyote than a wolf. Expert troll. Wrestling enthusiast skilled in communications.
>We let him set up the plan to goad the local transplants and the unaffiliated into either joining our wave or simply agreeing to terms. This wasn't a mistake.
>But I kind of wish it was.
>Maddog set up a truly inflammatory challenge to the Silk-Biters, and managed to set up a wrestling ring to try and keep the fatality of this confrontation down.
>Hell most of us thought he'd been joking but technically dangling a sacred Klaivaskar over a ring does count for challenges.
>Now at some point this escalated into a whole 'thing' and I'm pretty sure we had a significant number of onlookers watching as we set this event up.
>I was due to be the one in, although we had 'tag team rules' and I had two Loups in on the side. To counter their three 'issues.' Big-Pipe-Club and Maddog.
>To older folks you might remember Big-Pipe-Club from the Marquette shit, but to more recent folks he is an old friend.
>Now as absurd as all this is, I need you to keep in mind our targets thought just the same. A 'Red Talon' boy, an older 'Shadow Lord' guy, and a behemoth 'Silver Fang' Matriarch. The last one couldn't even pass for human. Had wolf eyes even when she was walking on two feet. The Red Talon called it a farce.

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>>97983533

>But let me tell you. Maddog is good at goading.
>The older two fell for it hook line and sinker and they dragged their dissenter in.
>Older guy and I went into the ring first, with one of the Nosforatu (calls himself Weevil) vagabonds who followed us in acting as ref.
>It went raw immediately with the Shadow Lord (lets call him Cúigleáil) hitting me with a gut punch. And jumping to try and grab the blade hanging above the arena.
>I ankle grabbed him, and for some reason the safest place for me with a Loup is grappling them.
>Got so bad he tapped in the Matriarch to escape the choke.
>Pulled out myself and let Big-Pipe-Club in to take my place, he might have been older than her but he knew how to throw his weight around.
>And this went on for about an hour in a weird haze, until, well...
>Think it was Maddog in the ring at the time with the Red Talon. His heart wasn't in it and the Matriarch swapped in. Someone shouted something and she snapped.
>One moment there was a woman in there. The next there was a grizzly sized wolf with rabies.
>Loups DO NOT FRENZY, but they have a state like it. It is B A D bad, so run if you ever see this
>Everything went to shit, Big-Pipe-Club basically hurled Maddog out and 'frenzied' right back at the Matriarch, and I finally had a chance to get the Klaiviskar.
>Someone shot me in the head at that point.
>Don't know who.
>Might have been friendly fire thinking on it.
>Pulled out the worst of the Protean and hurled myself into the ring.
>Together him and I managed to kill the Matriarch in a fucking mess of claws and teeth, Cúigleáil fled when he realized he'd lost, and the Red Talon boy (who I'll call Laoch) was left holding the bag. He yielded, on ground his remaining pack be 'brought on.'
>Didn't have much choice but to accept.

Fucking gongshow man. Tomorrow we'll see if we can't sway the Anarchs.

>>97980864
See the above. And whenever you're ready Nïa. You have my number.

>>97983418
>First, would you mind if you answer some questions?
Shoot.
>1: How precisely did you come into their employ?
In life I was a high schooler and quite a loser. One night I get hit in the head by this gangbangers laughing like hyenas. Next thing I know they're preparing for my live burial? One holding a book says: "Never dying, living on. You will walk forever in darkness." Another bonk and the next thing I hear or rather remember is "Thou wilt not die. Amen."
I find out I'm actually factually buried alive coffin and all, I punch my way out like I punched trees in Minecraft.
(the head butler told me this latter part of the story cause I don't remember it from that night)
I run through the city, it's raining, I'm more mud than man, the gang is chasing me, again with the laughing. I find this gate, I'm going insane ringing the doorbell, crying for help, one lightning strike, the lord appears, wraps me under his cloak and leads me inside.
The gang gets the hell out.
>2: Do you have a thirst for blood?
The maids give me blood to drink every single night, which I recently discovered it smells too much like animal blood. Cattle and goat blood is bland, I hate what I think is pig or at least wildboar's blood. Once per month the Nobles tie me up to a table in the cell downstairs (dunno why) and give me a small cup the good stuff, it's dense like honey and tastes even better.
They never let me inside the kitchen or wherever my food is prepared. I've never seen a Noble drink blood but I can't access their rooms and whatnot.
>3: Are you alive? Does your heart beat, is your skin warm to the touch, can you still eat normal food, etc.
No. Consistent with being what they call a vampir so far, isn't it?
>4: Do you feel an intense urge to sleep during the day? How about the "nobles"?
We all sleep during the day, I'm usually lying on the floor a few feet away from Zoryana's door.
>5: Do you have any proof the "wives" and "sons" are actually this lord's children?
No clue.

>>97983593
*these gangbangers
Also let me clarify: the blood the maids give me nightly is usually in a bottle. I've never bit anyone, I don't want to hurt anyone.

Hey, MeoMeo and H0T_G4R0US, I didn't offer my place to crash at initially as it's three hours out of town but my sire has scolded me for not offering my hospitality. If you don't mind the drive you can lay low here while you plan. I've got some cozy modern luxury coffins and they lock from the inside. I can stay in the guest room as I wouldn't want to interrupt the privacy of ladies.

>>97983607
Oh you sweet precious fledgling you. Keep that heart, or someone will tear it out of you, one way or the other.

Yours is... Kind of an odd situation. Not impossible to discern though. You've been drafted into another layer of the world that operates on its own logic. A secret club united by a thirst for blood, alleged immortality, and varied forms of psychosis. Or outright curses. The only certainties of your reality are as followed.
>Blood is now water, food, meth, and ambrosia to you
>The night is yours but the day will absolutely turn you to dust
>Your existence is a threat if it becomes known, even to your 'peers' if you aren't careful
>So long as you aren't subjugated you have terrible potential

The rest... Varies, sadly. You've got much to learn.

>>97983671
Nïa?

>>97983593
Right, well. That does clarify much. You are absolutely a vampire, and the good news is that the "Lord" and his household are as well. They're either a very eccentric brood that espouses some sort of pseudoscientific delineation between different types of vampires, or perhaps it's more about social class... or they're deliberately trying to make you think you're some sort of "lesser" vampire to keep you servile.

As for your embrace (that being our term for becoming a vampire), you were almost certainly turned by the Sabbat. The Sabbat are complicated, but the truncated version of it is that they're a loose confederation of vampire religious fundamentalists, supremacists, and barbarians. What you were to them, was "false sabbat", or as most call them, shovelheads. They'll take anyone they can grab, hit them over the head, and turn them. The purpose is to create cannon fodder, so that they might throw waves of fresh vampires at their enemies, which is typically anyone not in the Sabbat. Sounds to me like you gave them the slip, and managed out of sheer luck to find the haven of an elder. Or perhaps you were guided to that manor, it does seem very convenient, especially your lack of memory. Nevertheless, that the Sabbat didn't attack your Lord tells me that either he's very powerful and they're actually intelligent enough to not pick a fight with him... or he's in the Sabbat as well, and much higher in the pecking order.

Oh, and that thick and delicious blood they feed you once a month is probably vampire blood, or vitae. Drinking another vampire's blood slowly binds the drinker to that vampire's will. Typically by the third drink, you're constantly struggling against an unnatural compulsion to obey this vampire.

Lastly, you'll no doubt come to find that vampire politics are even more contentious and embittered than mortal politics. Only you can discern the absolute truth of your situation. I hope my context has been informative.

>>97983686
>>97983772
Wait, I didn't finish my story. Sometime after I'm inside the mansion, I wake up at dusk, in a luxurious bed, with clean clothes, and the lord is pouring the good stuff out of the bottle and giving me cup after cup till I'm sated. He casually says: "Decent self-control. Room for improvement."
Then for three whole nights it's your nerd's wet dream: a ren-faire where everyone is in superb period clothes, behaving like a decent human beings, the lord never leaves my side, I wear a full crimson armor and ride a horse with the man, I even shot a blunderbuss. And I can drink all the good stuff I want. Before the final dawn, the lord asks me countless questions, basically an oral recitation of my resume, my hobbies, my interests, then asks: "Would you like to work here?"

Reminder to everyone that once upon a time, this stupid Errand Knight wanted to become vampire knight with magical powers. Ugh.

On the fourth night, the madhouse goes back to normal, the maids and butlers no longer look like foreign royalty, the wives show me their collection of implements asking me if I want to try them with a bigger smile than they had during the 3-nighter, and for the first time I meet Zoryana. She, the head butler and Ms. Rafastio take turns telling me how the mansion really works.

Oh, if I don't mention the name of the other Nobles it's because I'm being kinda superstitious about it right now, they all introduced themselves tho.

>>97983772
>They're either a very eccentric brood that espouses some sort of pseudoscientific delineation between different types of vampires, or perhaps it's more about social class... or they're deliberately trying to make you think you're some sort of "lesser" vampire to keep you servile.
Are we the same? Are there differences between the vampires outside of political factions?
>Sabbat
>as most call them, shovelheads.
Suppose I have to drive Zoryana to a friend of the Nobles - a fellow Noble, let's say. Hypothetically speaking, of course. Right.
At some point I will introduce myself. Should I introduce myself as a Errand Knight of the mighty Sabbat, or Errand Knight the Shovelhead? Errand Knight the Vampir since that's what the Nobles call me? Will I make a fool of myself?
>the Sabbat didn't attack your Lord tells me that either he's very powerful and they're actually intelligent enough to not pick a fight with him... or he's in the Sabbat as well, and much higher in the pecking order.
How do I know which is which? I don't know who to trust anymore...
>Drinking another vampire's blood slowly binds the drinker to that vampire's will. Typically by the third drink, you're constantly struggling against an unnatural compulsion to obey this vampire.
WAIT WAIT WAIT
>I hope my context has been informative.
Informative and depressing. Thank you.
>>97983686
>Blood is now water, food, meth, and ambrosia to you
Ok but whose blood do I drink? Like pig blood stinks.
>The night is yours but the day will absolutely turn you to dust
I mean don't we all know a vampire isn't supposed to meet the sun?
>Your existence is a threat if it becomes known, even to your 'peers' if you aren't careful
You mean the Nobles?
>So long as you aren't subjugated you have terrible potential
Well excuse me but I'm feeling pretty darn subjugated already in here. I mean what else do they have to do? When they tell me to do something my body does it. Even Zoryana.

>>97983671
Right. Is it alright if we bring Gün and that staked Tremere? He's technically double betrayed the pyramid but I wouldn't risk it without declaring.

Also, we just need some good deep soil.

>>97983987
>Ok but whose blood do I drink? Like pig blood stinks.
Theoretically any blood will, but human is the most easy to palate, though, I was 'raised' by the wilderness. Personal advice for when you free yourself of the yoke? Rely on animal blood and save human for emergencies. Also AVOID drinking vampire blood or other things, the side effects can be most dire.

>I mean don't we all know a vampire isn't supposed to meet the sun?
You would think so. But... Eh.

>You mean the Nobles?
No, I mean EVERYONE. There are normal people in the loop who hunt vampires. There are 'normal' people who tie up those of us with the Blood and keep us for the purposes of drinking. There are government and private agencies that do both of the above. There are 'lesser' vampires who will cannibalize you and there are 'greater' vampires who view you as a threat to their 'resources.'

>Well excuse me but I'm feeling pretty darn subjugated already in here. I mean what else do they have to do? When they tell me to do something my body does it. Even Zoryana.
Yea, that seems to be the case. However your bondage is temporary and I've learned a great deal about this.

Blood bonds as they are called take many forms, but you retain your lucidity. Others are not so lucky. My one adoptive companion was brought into a group called the 'Tremere' as a 'Gargoyle.' Bound by the blood he was utterly devoted to his handlers and oblivious to their political machinations. Until he was beaten into the sleep called Torpor, and shoved in a closet for a few decades.

So long as you retain this lucidity you have the ability to plan. Find a position of weakness, and escape. There are means to break the bond, and given time, the effects will fade.

We are all fools. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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>>97984141
>Also AVOID drinking vampire blood or other things, the side effects can be most dire.
Is that the reason they time me up before each dose? My last dose was yesternight.
>Blood bonds as they are called take many forms, but you retain your lucidity.
The lord stopped talking to me and doesn't seem to register my existence after those 3 nights of intensive hospitality, like he lost all interest, if he needs something done, one of the wives will tell me. None of the wives and sons treat me like I have human rights.
But I think I might be developing feelings for Zoryana, is this going to be a problem?

>>97984241
*tie me up
Ah sorry was distracted.

>>97984141
>Right. Is it alright if we bring Gün and that staked Tremere? He's technically double betrayed the pyramid but I wouldn't risk it without declaring.
By all means, gun is a good boy and I've always wanted to meet a Tremere and see if my clan's hatred of them is founded or not. I've got an open mind. I've heard of Tremere's diablerie of Saulot but I don't believe in "the sins of the father" and all that. Individuals are individuals.

>Also, we just need some good deep soil.
Does clay count? The topsoil here is only about ten inches and below that is typical Manitoba gumbo. But I got fourty acres of mostly bush, dig whatever you need to dig if it works for you.

Damn I forgot to put my name up again.
>>97983671 (You) and >>97984254 (You) are both me.

>>97984241
There are two primary ones. One is obviously you panicking and trying to flee, but some people go into a Frenzy.

A manic state of raw instinct and enhanced power, that you could potentially overpower your current subjugator. It is mentally debilitating, but in my case it can physically degrade me. I can't open my mouth too wide now, unless I want people to see horror show teeth. Something you shouldn't have to worry about overmuch. Unless your siring is even more convoluted than it seems.

Also, while I'm on this, if you drink a vampire outright the process is dangerously addictive and can corrode your soul. Or outright annihilate you. J

>The Rest
Typical old feudal bullshit. Because of that stuff we've had several revolutions and constant upheaval.

And... Probably? It depends on how you want to handle this, little hedge knight. Planning for one person to escape a blood bond situation is hard, but not impossible. I know several people who succeeded in leaving some of the most restrictive societies that we have. But two... Complicates matters. Depends on how you want to act on it I guess.

>>97984254
Then we shall make the journey tonight. I expect Trelaine to flake and I've gotten some reports the Sabbat might be fracturing. Best to take a step back, maybe, see what happens now after that circus. And that's mindset doubly good, considering the 'Sorcerer' is quadruple cursed with inherited sins. Gün will be happy to hear the news too.

And the good old marsh will suffice. It is... Groddy but polite, I guess? Hard to explain.

>>97984347
>And the good old marsh will suffice. It is... Groddy but polite, I guess? Hard to explain.
It's not exactly marsh (although the water content is always high this time of year) but hard, sticky clay. Anything you dig should hold up rather well even without shoring.

>>97983987
>Are we the same? Are there differences between the vampires outside of political factions?
More similar than dissimilar. Most vampires are from one of several stable lineages called Clans, minor lineages of unclear origin are called Bloodlines. Not all clans are equal, some are much larger in numbers, others hold more power. Clans have congenital traits, such as affinity for certain Disciplines, that being what we call our vampire powers. They also share curses. In addition, there are vampires without clans, Caitiff. This term is confusing since it is used interchangeably for vampires that do not exhibit the traits of their lineage AND vampires that are ignorant to their lineage, such as yourself. Even though the two correlate, they are not always the same.

>At some point I will introduce myself.
Only do so if prompted. If your master truly believes you to be some form of lesser vampire, I would act servile around his associates until you can put more pieces of this puzzle together. Do not use the term Sabbat or Shovelhead or any term you have heard from us, because then your lord will be suspicious. If you are truly blood bound, and he asks, you'll likely feel an overwhelming urge to tell him the truth.

>How do I know which is which? I don't know who to trust anymore...
Keep your ears open. Listen for certain words such as Vaulderie, Cainite, Antediluvian, Gehenna, or any reference of religious titles in a not explicitly religious context. On the other hand, if you hear the terms Kindred, Elysium, Primogen, or Prince, you're likely dealing with the other major vampire political organization, the Camarilla. There's also a very real chance this lord is completely independent, though you usually need to be in a backwater or very powerful to pull that off. Or both.

Don't trust any vampire. Not even us. We all have our own biases and agendas. Whatever you read here, try to confirm it independently.

>>97983987
Okay, this "LORD" asshole isn't really Sabbat. He's just using the death/rebirth/immortality imagery while he turned you. You want to join the real Sabbat?

The short version is there are really stupidly old ass vampires. They're evil and tgey need to die. Most Camarilla are doing what those old Vamires want amd are stupid ir stuborn to admit it, most Anarchs are just self destructive punks.

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>>97984347
>Planning for one person to escape a blood bond situation is hard, but not impossible. I know several people who succeeded in leaving some of the most restrictive societies that we have. But two... Complicates matters. Depends on how you want to act on it I guess.
Guess I need to think this thru before I mess this up.
>>97984454
>Clans have congenital traits
Can I know my traits or the Nobles'?
>I would act servile around his associates until you can put more pieces of this puzzle together.
Sounds smart.
>Keep your ears open. Listen for certain words
I may be lost in translation, but I've heard "koldun." Google says it means magic. Reverso context translates it to... dragon too? Does it ring any bell?
>Don't trust any vampire. Not even us.
Now this is a headache and a half.
>>97984620
>He's just using the death/rebirth/immortality imagery while he turned you
Turn me? He did? But he wasn't there when I was turned. Wouldn't that make me a Noble? Am I still a Shovelhead?
>You want to join the real Sabbat?
Should I? Isn't it
>a loose confederation of vampire religious fundamentalists, supremacists, and barbarians
I never wanted to hurt people, man...
>They're evil
I noticed. And you guys aren't? Whoever it was that did it, I didn't ask for this.

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>>97983121
despite many years of searching, no. when i awoke i had no knowledge or reflex of any discipline, nor did i ever have any great weakness beyond the ones we all share. i gave up searching ages ago.

>I've always found the idea of respecting an enemy to be fascinating.
it comes from the time period. anatolia and the lower balkans were a hotbed of banu haqim and latin kindred meddling before the empire fell. constant skirmishes and cautious war rather than a ruinous onslaught. when you first avoided being wiped out by the gazi, it was terrifying. but then you end up returning the favour, exchanging words, even meeting diplomatically or fighting together at times.

then you find yourself a four century old dinosaur, and after dealing with your current neighbours, fatima stabbing you in the bath house is nostalgic. alas.

>A blessing and a curse.
gerçek. i know enough to sympathize.

>>97984840
You have some time for the moment. Think carefully and check her intentions, and don't bow your cover.

>Koldun
Oh boy that's... Rarely great. Koldun refers to a powerful sort of blood sorcery that I know of, invoking spirits. A tool originating from some of the most potent of our world. Tzimsce. Dragons. I am a practitioner of a variant of the Koldun, and we have another though he seems to be throttling a dude down in the deep south.

Have you got any context information?

>I noticed. And you guys aren't? Whoever it was that did it, I didn't ask for this.
In a way, though I'll give stripper her flowers and the blood infused champagne, a portion of the sect believes in the genuine liberation of vampire society from the corrosive old chains of their rivals. The Camarilla, which has its claws in almost everything.

There is a reason why you and yours might consider them. They possess a relic that can break the blood bond. I know, I possess one for my own purposes.

>>97983158
>What is this comic con? Why are vampires of multiple sects frequenting this presumably kine event? How did you even learn this person was a Tzimisce, let alone without providing your own clan?
Funnily enough my sire and some of the fellow Nosferatus have discussed this. They told me that things seem to be getting more and more 'lax' about Clans and allegiances these days, that there's a lot more of what does he call it, 'antitribu' and that newer kindred are overall way more lax about clan identity, grudges and all that. Guess that human atomization and death of culture carries over into our undeath for those embraced in the 21st century. Lot more clan mingling and a lot more vamps of once-Sabbat clans not being Sabbat anymore it seems.

>>97984840
>Can I know my traits or the Nobles'?
To a degree. Every clan has an additional weakness, some more obvious than others. Nosferatu are monstrous in form. Tzimisce, who I now further suspect your Lord to be, must sleep with soil from their homeland, else their powers will slip away. If you want to figure out your own lineage, start with what powers you have.

>I may be lost in translation, but I've heard "koldun."
This is a Tzimisce term, it's their word for sorcerer, to my understanding. They practice a specific type of magic distinct from typical vampire disciplines. Tzimisce are typically in the Sabbat, but some are independent.

>Now this is a headache and a half.
Welcome to unlife, childe. Everyone has their biases, and their agendas, as you can see from someone claiming to be Sabbat. Obviously, they are more favorable to the organization than I am. I will be honest with you, I consider the Sabbat to be the lowest form of vampire. They're wantons and murderers, and the more deluded or insidious ones justify it through appeals to a coming apocalypse, or paranoid conspiracies about world-ending Antediluvians. It's a lie, even if some believe it. It's just an excuse to indulge their darker urges. I would not suggest you join them, even though their rite can shatter the blood bond.

Before you make any choice, I'd suggest you ask yourself what exactly you want. Figure out what you want before you take any drastic action. Keep your head down and learn. Good luck, I am happy to answer your questions, but you need to make your own decisions.

>>97984872
You seem to be a good fellow. I shall endeavor to look you up if I'm ever in that area. To bittersweet unlives.

>>97985101
This is certainly news to me. Even with other vampires I'm hardly a socialite, but this is the first time I've heard such claims. Sounds like a great way to get picked off by slightly older neonates with less shall we say open minds.

>>97985510
Well it is all relative. Of course there's still clan shit its just my sire pointed out that, compared to say 100 years ago there was a time when certain clans were very strictly hardline in embracing from specific ethnic groups, religions or social classes and he consider it to be way more loose amongst the current gen of vampire. Back in his day more than 3/4 of vamps would fit those stereotypes he tells me. Relative to the time he was embraced there's a general trend toward what he calls 'absolutely queer' Kindred and he doesn't mean in the way they swing he mean in the sense that he finds them odd for not fitting clan stereotypes or at least those in his head. He seems to find Kindred embraced in the 21st century to be quite 'libertine'. How true this is overall....meh I don't know because I don't travel but I wouldn't find it THAT implausible to think the youngest generation of Kindred is a lot more loose with their clan image, expectation and in some cases loyalties because that follow the general trend of the mortal society we came from where people mix all the time.

It might just be 'libertine' by the standards of older vamps. Or it could be some people are actually lying about their clans and affiliation to sound more interesting. Mortals do lie a lot in the social media age to present a 'cooler' image after all so it could be that!

>>97984840
Don't buy that cammy lick propaganda. Yeah, we're Hardcore, but we're not sociopathic idiots. Okay some vamps that call themselves Sabbat are, but fuck those guys.

And what Garous said is true. We've got a little ritual we call the Vaulderie. A Pack of vampires does it togother, and they all like each other a bit more, in exchange they can't be blood bond, and it breaks any they have.

Well shit, two more dead guys. Not ghouls, just guys-who-worked-with our ghouls. Seems we're still taking collateral from the oversized mutts. They are persistent I'll give them that.

>>97983122
Oi cunt! I sent you an invite to monomachy. You and me, Mano a mano,
>my blade
vs yours. Do you accept? Or is you a bitch?

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>>97986162
You know Monomacy is only for True Sabbat, right cowboy? I don't owe your wizard ass anything! But your constant hounding is getting old, so I admit that daddy needs to take fare of business.

This can be his desperate, last ditch plan to get Chelys and Necro. Shovelheads, fire, the works. Feel free to finish him off once and for all.

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>>97987677
Very well then! Our battle shall be legendary.

I see you brought help. So did I! His name is Bobithy. He was a hobo. Now, he’s wearing 100lbs of high explosive! Tally-ho!

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I decided I would tell the first wife of the lord I meet I want to serve him better. Cue Redhead. She went: "Do vhat you're told. Fail and you die." I didn't want to play this card so soon, but I told her the lord mentioned room for improvement, and I wanna be able to protect an important passenger or cargo if I'm attacked away from the mansion.
Redhead calls the daughter of the lord, Zoryana, who comes back with a Mosin-Nagant rifle, and organizes a shooting class since I had swordplay beaten in me by the sons. Redhead asks if she forgot anything important, Zoryana rolls her eyes in frustration and gets a riding crop from the stable. At least it fits the role of a military instructor better than her dress.

I only used guns in videogames. I watch a tutorial on YouTube and shoot those steel targets. Guns are loud and make tons of smoke. Thru all the class Zoryana goes: "Faster! Faster! Faster!" tapping the crop on her hand.

In the fifth round of practice, she says: "Imagine a favorable wind." I watch her with the side of my eye do this strange pose with her raised arms in a V shape, then forms an X in front of her chest. Guess I had to really imagine the wind cause there wasn't a blade of grass moving. I say nothing and focus on the shooting.

Before the last round she points with the crop and exclaims: "Twelve o' clock! Waffen-SS!" I swear to God I was firing faster than the pros I saw on YouTube.
She corrected me when I yelled: "For the Motherland!", turns out it's actually Fatherland...

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>>97988253
Zoryana asks me how I feel. I'm like: "I think I am ready to die for you, Zoryana." She doesn't like it, rips the rifle off my hands and throws it away, screams: "No! No one won a war by dying! Don't die for Zoryana! Survive for Zoryana! Endure for Zoyrana! Suffer for Zoryana! Live for Zoryana! Kill for Zoryana!" With every verb she says, she hits me with the riding crop, and there is anguish in her words, anguish that hits me much harder.
She pulls my hair and whispers in my ear: "Be patient. The wives of the lord are watching. They expect me to whip you into shape, literally. I don't believe in these teaching methods anymore, I should say I'm sorry - just not this time. This one time I am not sorry because I mean every word I just said. We've been drafted into a war and I have no intention of losing, soldier."
I felt miserable and tried to de-escalate and apologize. Zoryana doesn't deserve to feel any negative emotion. All things considered, this is easier on the body than fencing with the sons. But if we're at war, won't someone tell me what are the objectives? General strategy? Victory conditions? The darn enemy? Our own forces and allies?

Once we're back inside the mansion I thank Zoryana, and Redhead, for the lesson and discipline. I think something changed in me. Besides dying, I mean. I used to swear like a sailor, now I don't, I was clumsy now I can do this? So to change the topic, I ask them how did I become so fast with a gun in such short notice. And accurate.
Redhead licks her fangs and says, cackling: "Look for ansver in your blood, vampir." Then I ask: "Am I a vampir because I was turned by another vampir, not by a Noble?" Redhead grins and confirms that my blood is 'impure and inferior.' Zoryana shakes her head.

>>97985004
>any context information
Eh, I don't actually speak any Slavic language. Since she did the closest thing to magic I saw so far, I asked Ms. Rafastio if what she uses to heal me is this koldun thing the Nobles mentioned many times. She says what she uses is something more ancient. Other things she told me while being very touchy and inappropriate as always: she's 'neither vampir nor Noble', she's from an Italian family, she always wears black for traditional reasons, and casually mentioned men are useful only as either adult toys or meat shields for women.

>>97985004
>some of the most potent of our world. Tzimsce. Dragons
>>97985487
>Tzimisce, who I now further suspect your Lord to be, must sleep with soil from their homeland
Do these Tzimsce or Tzimisce have more powers or weaknesses I should know?
>>97985004
>a relic that can break the blood bond
>>97985487
>their rite can shatter the blood bond
>>97985850
>a little ritual we call the Vaulderie. A Pack of vampires does it togother, and they all like each other a bit more, in exchange they can't be blood bond, and it breaks any they have
So you all agree this Vaulderie works, but what do I need? Relic, ritual, a pack? How many vampires?
Where is the catch?
couldn't fit everything in one post because "muh system thinks it's spam"

>>97983593
>In life I was a high schooler and quite a loser. One night I get hit in the head by this gangbangers laughing like hyenas. Next thing I know they're preparing for my live burial? One holding a book says: "Never dying, living on. You will walk forever in darkness." Another bonk and the next thing I hear or rather remember is "Thou wilt not die. Amen."
>I find out I'm actually factually buried alive coffin and all, I punch my way out like I punched trees in Minecraft.
Stripper, Grin is this a Shovelhead thing?

>>97988241
>>97987677
¿Guerreros de Kaine? ALIMANA RETORCIENDOSE
ARE YOU WORTHY OF THE BLOOD OR IS IT WATER OFF A DUCK'S BACK
IMBECILES

I rolled to see if Necrophage either dies or finally wights out. It seems Ooka gives the old freak the will to live with sanity I guess.

>>97988280
>Do these Tzimsce or Tzimisce have more powers or weaknesses I should know?
I'm a Tzimisce but I must explain there is the old clan and the new clan. The old clan eschews the use of the new clan's signature discipline, "vicissitude" or "fleshcrafting". The old clan tends to use koldunism instead, but these are not hard and fast rules. Some old clan use vicissitude, some new clan use koldunism. Only with both can a Tzimisce craft the greatest of fleshcrafted creations, the "vozhd" or "war ghouls", massive creatures made of several fused subjects. I have a hunch your masters are of the old clan based on that, but be careful, being fleshcrafted is painful and horrifying. I am of the new clan myself, and I like to make Pokémon out of animals I befriend. As for weaknesses, I'd be a fool to share information that could endanger my brothers and sisters, so you'll have to find that out on your own or from someone else.

>>97988611
I don't think I've seen animals resembling Pokemon (huh?) or people being tortured by having their flesh "crafted" or bodies fused anywhere. The Nobles use more mundane instruments of torture.
So this house belongs to the Tzimisce of the old clan, who went from Ukraine to Virginia Hunt Country then. I think this means the soil was moved over too. Do old clanners usually think themselves superior to other vampires?
OK the next riddle is what am I, then how to escape this "plantation."

>>97988669
Okay this has been bothering me,
Is this UKRAINE Ukraine or are we in CARPATHIAN Ukraine?

Because Dracula was real man and I'm pretty sure he lived over there.

Also are you familiar with Astrolite?

>>97988669
Yeah most make hideous monsters, I'm kind of an outlier by (mostly) making cute things. If you're a Sabbat shovelhead there's a good chance you're either a new clan Tzimisce (fleshcrafters) or a Lasombra (shadow vampires), but you could be anything really, the Sabbat can have any clan in their ranks as "antitribu" (anti-tribe).

>>97988688
Lord said Western Ukraine and I assume the Carpathians are involved, there are many paintings of and with mountains around the mansion. I googled Astrolite and... is this about IEDs?
>>97988697
>there's a good chance you're either a new clan Tzimisce (fleshcrafters) or a Lasombra (shadow vampires), but you could be anything really, the Sabbat can have any clan in their ranks as "antitribu" (anti-tribe).
Anything, including Caitiff as TheForgotten said. Man...

>>97988715
Named now up. Listen bro, most of us can take like- an axe to the head or a few bullets. Fire is a lot more dangerous. And I've never met a mother fucker who I couldn't blow up. Plus if you found the paperwork you could be the one owning what was the plantation.

Now If I was back in NYC I could have gotten you the hot-stuff at a discount. Almost in Canada and the lab got razed though so I can't.

And yea you're kind of probably dealing with someone Dracula Adjacent or one of those guys who are- like- SUPER SALTY because of Dracula.
Kind of like a Protestant thing you know?

>>97983533
Also obligatory what are you smoking and where can I get it?

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>>97988280
The catch is you've got to be IN tge Sabbat, sweetie. We don't share our rites with outsiders. But I'll be happy to answer questions about us, and tell you all about the Dark Father. I'm a Priest, it's my job.

>>97988399
FUCK NO. Okay look. Shovelheads are the modern night vampire version of a horde of medieval peasants getting thrown at a problem to soften it up. They're EXPECTED to die, and do it in a loud messy way, because the Cam looses their shit when a big ass Masquerade breach happens. (Or at least, they DID, till overuse got them inured)

I only called myself Shovelhead as a tongue in cheek reference to me being Sabbat, the ritual and immagry of my Embrace, and the fact that when I first showed up on this board I didn't know shit about shit.

This is a reply to the person not yet born. Almighty kid, have you gone senile? Don’t pluck out eyes which rolled harmlessly. Thirteen the word is not thirteen the thing. I’ve gotten better at separating the static from the history channel. Count your bless sings and trade them in for kevlar. You took a bullet for me, so what? If you have to shit where you eat, eat before you shit. Remember your childhood, that bumblebee you swallowed won’t sting, I promise, if you treat her right.
Colony insects skew female and you should have known better.

>>97988751
>most of us can take like- an axe to the head or a few bullets. Fire is a lot more dangerous.
Ok.
>And I've never met a mother fucker who I couldn't blow up.
What about a whole "Noble" house of them? Mate, there are innocent men and women here, this is not even a plan B. Hydrazine may hurt me only when it explodes but it's corrosive, carcinogenic, toxic to people and the environment, even airspace people stopped using it. I'm not a war criminal.
>>97989375
>But I'll be happy to answer questions about us, and tell you all about the Dark Father. I'm a Priest, it's my job.
Right. Confession:
A) I'm trying to figure out what have I become
B) I'd like to know who turned me and why
C) I do not presently bear a grudge against the Sabbat
D) I mean no offense
Questions:
1. Is there ever any irony in the rites the Sabbat performs? Like telling Shovelheads they won't die as they are sent to their deaths, or dressing up as a Catholic priest while reciting apocryphal scriptures?
2. Let's say my "sire" wasn't of the real Sabbat and it's not the lord of this house either, who or what do you think it was? If you have priests, do you have heresies too?
3. Suppose you wanted to create Shovelheads, for orthodox or heretical motives. Do you do random attacks on people and then you come up with an elaborate ritual with burials or whatever, or you do you plan and stage the ritual first and foremost, and find suitable victims later?
4. I'll bite. Who is this Dark Father and what does he want from me? I think there's already one in my life and Zoryana's tho.
5. Does anyone in the Sabbat practice corporal punishment, torture, slavery, kidnapping, eugenics, suprematism, "tough love", and the rest of the horrors that infest this house? Do you and your immediate fellow Sabbat vampires do these things yourselves?
6. What do you think of Old Clan Tzimisce in general and this belief the Nobles have they are pure and superior to other vampires?
7. What would the Sabbat get from me?

>ready to head home
>waiting for the metrolink, sun is setting
>some guy pulls out a prayer rug
>lolwut.gif
>starts praying in Arabic (in public mind you)
>feel a sudden burning pain in my abdominal region. like getting shanked with a shard of glass
>casually power walk away
>hide in the bathroom until he leaves
>vomit
Daddy was kind enough to explain ‘true’ faith AFTER I puked my guts out, thank you sire very cool
Here’s the thing. The guy was WHITE. What leads a thirtyish year old white guy to devote himself to Allah in the year 20 fucking 26???
Blonde hair, blue eyes. True fucking believer.

>>97989884
97989884
1. Yes.
2. Probably allies of the Initial break from the society that was forming at the time.
3. It'll vary from region to region, even from pack to pack. Doing 1 guy though, is weird.
4. Caine. The Biblical Cain.
5. Yes. And more.
6. That they're right but in the wrong way. Blood matters. But it's not a matter of ethnicity or race. It's the curse running through our veins. The less you have of that curse. The weaker you are. The weakest of us are borderline human. And the strongest are something so horrifying that it makes burying your fellow man alive the least awful path of resistsnce.
7. What d'you have to offer?

>>97989988
>3. It'll vary from region to region, even from pack to pack. Doing 1 guy though, is weird.
I don't think I was the only victim, but I don't remember either. Head trauma and all that.
>4. Caine. The Biblical Cain.
What does this have to do with the year of our Lord 2026, specifically?
>5. Yes. And more.
So the way out of the plantation is... another plantation? Is that all?
>6. That they're right but in the wrong way. Blood matters. But it's not a matter of ethnicity or race. It's the curse running through our veins. The less you have of that curse. The weaker you are. The weakest of us are borderline human. And the strongest are something so horrifying that it makes burying your fellow man alive the least awful path of resistsnce.
You lost me here. How do you go from random live burials to slowing down omnipotent freaks?
>7. What d'you have to offer?
I'll have to figure out what I am and what I can do first before I can answer this. My limits, right?

>>97990622
>What does this have to do with the year of our Lord 2026, specifically?
Cain/Cane/Kane/Khaine is said to be the first vampire. He was cursed by God for murdering his brother and not repenting.
>You lost me here. How do you go from random live burials to slowing down omnipotent freaks?
You don't, but try telling them that. :/

>>97990807
Thank you for the place. Can I speak to your sire at some point Nïa? The ground has been accommodating but something feels... Hard to describe.

Also, I'm obliged to do the usual meeting with 'em we are both obliged to act on.

>>97988253
>>97988264
What a mess.

>>97988272
Egh. Yea of course that checks out, to my understanding there are some vassal families of the old Tzims that have been 'altered' with how long the blood relation existed. Giving someone 'regular' your blood can have serious impacts. Potent enough that the effect is noticeable.

>>97988280
I've had to mould it but the ritae requires relic, 'pack' (IE two vampires at least), and the rite itself. It is mostly contained within the Sabbat. Mostly. I am obliged to not share much on this, oath-bound as I am, but I do have two individuals at present who wish for a degree of security in such a ritae.

Along with... Well there has been good reason it's been slow beyond the oaths. But should you find your way north? Well. Who knows.

That's the extent of what I can offer right now. My cat is having issues today and I'm dealing with a lot of shit right now.

>>97988751
I'm passing a preemptive ban on bombings without requests.

>>97989955
Ha. Ain't that something. Good little habibis.

Hello everyone. I don't think I'm technically allowed to use this network but I'm growing desperate. My teacher - I guess domitor is the right word - hasn't been seen or heard from in almost a full month. The other - Kindred? A big, ugly looking guy - I know won't tell me anything. I'm trying to hold our group together but it's all falling apart and I feel so powerless and empty on the inside. I don't know what to do. Can anyone help me?

If anyone sees her, can you please tell her to come back to us? She's a short woman, around five feet tall, very pretty with straight, shoulder-length hair the color of a Hershey's chocolate bar and these stunning blue eyes that almost look like they could glow in the right light.

>>97990828
>Can I speak to your sire at some point Nïa?
I'll ask, they're even more of a hermit than I am though. But they do lair a scant ten minutes away and they've been strangely accommodating of the whole Winnipeg situation compared to normal. I didn't think I'd get permission to show up at the meeting but I did.
>The ground has been accommodating but something feels... Hard to describe.
That's not great. I've owned this place since before I was turned I don't want to find out it's cursed. I finally paid off the last of the mortgage with the cash rumplestilzfucker gave me for the crabs.

>>97989884
>>97990622
Hoooh, boy. Okay, if I try to answer this in bullet point form it's just gonna be confusing and unhelpful. So...Broad Strokes.

We run on blood. Specifically, blood is like crude oil and our bodies turn it into Vitae.
How high octane your Vitae is depends on how many generations removed from Cain you are, because when you make a new vamp, their Vitae is a bit weaker than yours. And yes, Cain still walks the Earth. And what he wants for us? I doubt anything. FROM us though...probably to kill his treacherous grandchildren. See the Second Generation, those vampires directly turned by Cain? Dead and eaten by the third generation, who were the begining of Clan Bloodlines. More on that if you sign up.

As for shovelheads, there's no ritual to it. You wang a human upside the head with a shovel turn em, and bury em. They wake up and dig themselves out pissed off and starving and they Frenzy. Vamps are predators. We've got really intense fight or flight instincts that can overwhelm us. Tge tactical advantage is that tge eyes if hunanity turn in the area the Shovelheads fucked up, making vamps have to hide out and not eat for a few days. Which leads to hungry and cranky vampires. Which is a headache the higher ups in the Cam. Because for all our power, despite the fact that we fucking eat people, HUMANITY can't know we're real or we would have Hans amd Franz kicking in the door to our havens and Werfing their Flammens all over our faces like a cheap porno.

As for all that other shit...Vampires ARE superior to humans. They're food. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, they have dangerous toys that can kill us. They're also so stupid they don't realize there's a thousand amd ine species out to eat their fucking faces and have been since humanity was a bunch of fur draped cavemen huddling around a fire. We fucking eat them.

>>97990622
>So the way out of the plantation is... another plantation? Is that all?
Well, there is a third plantation to choose from. We're all picking cotton until the Moon bleeds regardless.

>>97991805
It isn't cursed at least I know what that feels like (unfortunately) so your good there. More like... The things of the land feel anxious.

And thanks. Interesting events back in the city tonight.

>>97991087
That is a bad patch to be found in, I can't say who'd be able to help you or even would be present.

>>97991866
>there is a third plantation to choose from. We're all picking cotton until the Moon bleeds regardless.
Depressing.
>>97991812
>They wake up and dig themselves out pissed off and starving and they Frenzy.
This gotta be why I have lapses in memories from that first night. Maybe.
>Vampires ARE superior to humans. They're food. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, they have dangerous toys that can kill us. They're also so stupid they don't realize there's a thousand amd ine species out to eat their fucking faces and have been since humanity was a bunch of fur draped cavemen huddling around a fire. We fucking eat them.
Hm. I have another question. If you're organized in "packs", which reminds me of hunting groups more than old money feudal estates, do they travel? How do Tzimisce travel if they lose their powers without their home soil? Should I join the Sabbat, I might need to know this for Zoryana, and, if I find out I'm some kind of Tzimisce too, for myself. So how do they do it?
For a moment I imagined Errand Knight the nerd, and Zoryana the long-skirted rich bitch preppie daughter of conservatives. They happily march together with the circus freaks dressed in black from the pictures in Guide to the Sabbat, like the Brujah and Toreador Antitribus. They couldn't fit any less with each other, but they act like it's normal cause of the Vaulderie and Vinculi... I think it's hilarious.
>>97990828
>What a mess.
Bad mess but I am not giving up.
>Egh. Yea of course that checks out, to my understanding there are some vassal families of the old Tzims that have been 'altered' with how long the blood relation existed. Giving someone 'regular' your blood can have serious impacts. Potent enough that the effect is noticeable.
But if what Ms. Rafastio does is not koldun, what is it? Do non-vampires have magic too?
>That's the extent of what I can offer right now.
I am considering your offer. You're the only animal blood advocate I know...

>>97992746
>How do Tzimisce travel if they lose their powers without their home soil?
Easy, bring at least two full handfuls of soil with you and sleep with it.
>I am considering your offer. You're the only animal blood advocate I know...
I also survive off mostly animal blood but there's a catch, the lower your generation the less animal blood sates you. I'm of the 12th generation so animal blood does me just fine, but if you're say, the 8th generation, not so much.

>>97993534
>Easy, bring at least two full handfuls of soil with you and sleep with it.
Where do you store them? Home? Under the bed? Pockets?
>the lower your generation the less animal blood sates you. I'm of the 12th generation so animal blood does me just fine, but if you're say, the 8th generation, not so much.
Never felt more disturbed reading these boards. Does this mean Zoryana can't join my "ascetic lifestyle"? And if I stay with her I'd become her accomplice? Oh no. They gave me animal blood because they think mine is impure. Was this what they actually meant with Noble vs vampir? Animals feed off animals and the aristocracy of monsters feeds of people? No no no not like this... Please. Why, Zoryana, why why why why WHY

>>97992746
>>97993534
I'll also add, the blood of beasts is something you or anyone CAN acclimatize to, given enough time and avoiding other options.

I didn't have much of an option as a fledgling to hunt normal folk, and hunting wild animals fresh was something I did for years before I learned the whole deal. Still do hunt as a wild creature and rarely kill my quarry on principle to avoid dependence on kill satiation. Still can feel an encounter with a Loup I had down in Nor Cal weeks back. That shit hits like a truck and can turn you mad.

>>97993793
Can't speak for the former, but much of the latter is 'Maybe.' Maybe she can't be ascetic, maybe you'll be a mewling dog for her if you don't wisen. But that Vampir stuff is a bunch of bullshit, and the rest can be changed. Cause you're filled with Divine Fire that lets you make CHOICES.

For context; Mine is the feral clan, forever burdened with the funny slander oft ascribed to the Welsh. Wild animals. Beasts.

But that is just the starting circumstance, and your 'masters' are little else but maggots writhing in a corpse called legacy. More puerile than the most mindless of my cousins stalking the deep swamps. You are not degraded by feeding on animals. You are not enhanced by feeding on normal people. God knows my fucking Cat defaults to the latter for her own reasons.

But the rest is up to you.

>>97993534
Also, also, just a warning with the 'shopping' we did last night for a reserve, we're planning on unstaking the Tremere tonight.

Door to the RV should be open so help yourself to anything in the fridge. It should be marked properly now.

I WANT TO TALK TO ZORYANA RN AND FIGURE OUR OPTIONS OUT BUT SHES STUDYING AND IM STUCK IN THIS STUPID TRUCK
ANYWAY YOU ARE ALL AMAZING PEOPLE TYSM

>>97993793
>Where do you store them? Home? Under the bed? Pockets?
All of the above. I keep mine in a jar and cuddle it when I sleep if I'm on the road. Some people spread theirs around their sleeping spot. Dracula lines his coffin with it. Some fleshcrafters keep it in flesh pockets. Regular pockets work too.

>>97994113
Dude, you're hopelessly blood bonded to her.

>>97993985
Okie dokie. I should have told you I have some bottles of deer blood stored up in the kitchen fridge. If you have any human blood I might nick a bottle/bag, it's been a long while since I've had human blood.

>>97994371
>Some fleshcrafters keep it in flesh pockets

I am 75% sure the local ex-sabbat autarkis is full of dirt now rather than silicon. Don't know if that's more disturbing or less.

>>97994371
>Some fleshcrafters keep it in flesh pockets.
Bruh.
>Dude, you're hopelessly blood bonded to her.
What do you mean? I thought the good stuff was the lord's blood? She's the only one that cares for me, why do you accuse her?

>>97994457
Look buddy Imma thin blood and therefor actual scum, but, like, dude.

Most cainites got a thing called 'pyramids.' Most kindred society is based on the pyramid scheme. You get bonded childr and ghouls, your childr get their bonded childr and ghouls, and all the way down. Makes sense they'd keep you at the bottom rung of the puramid and bind you to her as a servent. Fuedal stuff ya know?

Id offer to merc and amaranath9i her for you but i dont want none of that. Holding out to nab a legit wizard.

It is done. Bleu is avenged. Shoveheads aint got vitae for shit though. Though considering my hobo boomer I strapped claymores to, that’sto be expected. I’ve got at least 50 stab wounds in my torso. He tried using this weird eye thing that bleu talked about. It worked for a bit and he tried to stake me. Thankfully my heart wasn’t there. This is the second time vicissitude has saved my life. It’s definitely handy in cases like this. I’ve got him pinned to the ground by a holly tree. I need vitae badly but don’t know if I should drain him, diablerize him, or just keep him like this as a trophy. What say yall?

>>97994698
I'm not normally one to suggest diablerie (in fact I despise it) but perhaps Bleu's soul would rest better in a friend than an enemy. Plus he was a diablerist anyways, so, eye-for-an-eye.

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>>97994698
Wait! That name, is it a nickname or a given name? Was it a woman? If it was a woman, was her last name Faycott? When you say you avenged this person, what exactly do you mean? Where are you? I NEED TO KNOW, THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME!!!

>>97994698
You'd think he'd realize the stabbing wasn't working after the first strike. Then again Jan was never the brightest creature.

>>97994991
Was your mistress... How do I say this politely... Snakey?

>>97994796
Don’t know if that’s how it works. Even my sire, a willing victim, is fading from my mind.
>>97994837
Very well. May I keep a fang though? I’ll pull all other teeth out and send them to you.
>>97994991
She was French. I don’t believe her last name was prescott. Tig ol bitties and on the shorter side. A treat to the eye and the heart. That who you talking about? She was killed and diablerized by this dog named Janus. I hunted him across the south, from Jacksonville FL to fucking Virginia, where I’m currently. Bleu was based down there in gator land. >>97995005
Well after the third try he just started stabbing my torso like a prison shanking. Once I broke free of his eye thingy, I headbutted him and broke his stupid ass nose. My heart was in my pelvis, behind my pubic bone. There’s a joke there, I’m certain of it.

>>97995510
I have devoured many. Many Cainites. Some remained. Others shattered. I am only myself now though.

That carnage out west of you, where those shovelheads ran. I am there. You shall hear us. Ooka is eating the second last of the stragglers...

One escaped. She was brave, fought head on in the face of death. Worthy.

You may keep one fang, the rest I will grind to dust and inhale.

>>97995005
Um... she doesn't have any scales or anything if that's what you mean. She is soft and always moves with an easy sensuality that I guess you could describe as serpentine. I saw her perform this belly dance once that was mesmerizing, but those are the closest things I could say are "Snakey" that I recall.

>>97995510
Oh no. No no no no! That IS her! How could this happen!? Why didn't anyone tell me? She was preparing me to pass through the Gate of Blood. She said I was almost ready to join her divine lineage. And now it's... gone?

What's going to happen to us now? What am I supposed to do?

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>>97994698
You know Lex Talionis? Suck him. Or fleshcraft him to do something unpleasant until the sun comes up.

>>97994457
My man, the fact that you can even think of leaving the noble but not her proves two things: he hasn't blood bonded you, she has. Oh yeah, that thickening blood cuts twice. There are vamps old enough with Vitae thick enough even plain ass human blood fails to satiate. Those vamps HAVE to drink vitae straight from other vamps. This is the big shadow war tye Sabbat are fighting. Against those fuckers.

>>97995896
Oh dear. Did Professor Faycot leave a Cult of Blood Worshipers behind? Alright, round up your fellows and bring them to the uni, someone will be aling to collect you shortly. I owe it to my former citizen to care for her people in her absence.

>>97993985
Good news, my sire is coming over tonight to meet with you and MeoMeo.
I guess I'll RP my sire, I don't really have them fleshed out though so go easy on me.

>>97994698
By default I recommend against taking the easy or baser paths. It started with that, and your main ally is barely hanging onto sanity.

But... Well. Bleu got it bad. Pay the debt in full.

>>97995563
You better take care of that creature.
Finally running the shovelhead with a shank / aka actual shovelhead stripper?

>>97995896
Endure.

>>97996019
So soon? Well shit with that schism brewing and a wake up party this is going to be a night. Doubly so with the Cat in the mood she's in.

Going to need a full AAR come morning. Especially if the death cult pack hits the nitro.
Loud and clear boss. Any ideas where you're going with them?

Is there a way to tell them apart? The cries of a wolf and a bona fide lupine?
At night I walk the woods with a friend, my sire’s order.
We are not in wolf country per se but much too close for my liking.
Help me out, I pray

>>97995971
Is this... legitimate? Ms. Faycott had been teaching me a little bit about Kindred rules and stuff and... well, do Princes usually make a direct contact like this? Are we about to be rounded up and killed as a potential breach of the Masquerade?

>>97996927
Neat secret kindred. You can't! When a loupine wants to look like a wolf its actually just a fucking wolf.

>>97997054
On the one hand probably. Then again I hear Jacksonville is a fucking shitshow, and there is an opening in society.
You feel like running boy?

>>97997108
My city is most assuredly NOT a shitshow. That is merely malicious slander spread by those who think a Prince must be a Ventrue or Toreador, not a Gangrel.

>>97997054
Son, I assure you, you will be well cared for. On my honor as a Marine.

>>97992746
>Should I join the Sabbat
No, is the short story.

They're left overs from schism that happened a half a millenia ago. Their calling card is hypocrisy and abusing lesser vampires because otherwise the Antidilluvians win or some shit. The three camps (Camarilla, Anarch and Sabbat) are also roughly in order of modernity).

>Cammies
The Camarilla have rules yes, they are also the most likely to treat you as a valid political unit. Now its still vampires, your mileage may vary but at its heart, the Camarilla aims to be a home for all vampires. You don't have to join it, it's like vampire rights. They shouldn't just take you behind the shed for existing unless you break the rules. That's about twenty times more fair then any of the other options.

>Anarchs
The Anarchs have a little less rules and is a bunch more bullshit with second rate 'big fish in a small pond' powers, who can't or won't toe the line for whatever reason. This is a mixed bag from Vampires who were burned from the Camarilla (sometimes for good reason) to older power structures from before the camarillah existed in certain areas.

>Sabbat
The Sabbat is a bunch of Third Rate Perverts
>See shovelhead stripper
Who are mostly puppets to a handful of powerful clans or individual vampires that are every bit as bad and fucked up as the Antidilluvians they claim to want to kill. See - your current situation. There's also an element of 3rd worldism/communism in there (which is why on paper their membership is a lot less vertical but reminder, they lie about that).

I had thought you were ahh roleplaying as the kids say, but when you start to ask things about the sabbat I have to reiterate , even if this is RP
>The Camarilla is your best shot at being treated Fairly in this afterlife.
It's not to say it's perfect. It's just that the other options are that bad.

>>97994796
>>97995949
>>97996876
It seems like there is a consensus. This solves two problems as I’m far enough away from society there was going to be ISSUES refeeding. Low gen. Fantastic, UNLIMITED powers, but damn the hunger is something else. I have skinned him and applied muriatic acid to his hands, face, and soles of his feet. I’ll keep his hide in some glycerin and alcohol to preserve it untill I can make it into something.
>>97997192
Semper fi or that gangrel offshoot I’ve heard rumors of? Or both?
>>97997054
I’m sorry son, if I could isolate her vitae from this cur’s I would but that’s not how it all works. Were I a decade or so older, I wouldn’t mind siring you as Bleu spoke highly of you here, iirc. If you’re still around in 10-15 years and want to be of the honorable order of the dragons, find the most addictive alcohol. It’s bound to be me or Kakaphoni making it.
>>97995949
>>97994457
as said above. I don’t normally feed from kindred unless concerningly wounded, but even as young as I am, it’s an issue. Oh and blood bounds are stronger the older the bonder is, I think.

On with it then, he’s not even screaming which is half the fun of skinning and salting someone. when I get around to making Chelys’ character sheet, I can’t imagine him higher than
3 humanity after two diableries and making a hobo suicide bomber. Looks like it’s path time!

>>97995563
Oh, I’ll bring you the teeth tonight. He actually cried when I yanked them out.
>grind them and snort them
Fucking hardcore man.

>>97996876
Don't worry they're no stuffy old elder, they'll probably just pop in to say "hi" and then bounce after an hour. They're pretty cool like that. Gen 11 and they're only 70.
A small androgynous humanoid shows up in an Audi Q5 with two unnaturally large mastiffs in tow and introduces themself as "Alex". I can never tell if they're a trap or a tomboy on any given day as they shapeshift often, hence the gender-neutral pronouns. They stick around for the wakeup to defend their childer if need be but they don't get in the way or impose themselves, very chill. The mastiffs too are very chill, they sniff around the new people a lot then lay down and watch what everyone is doing. They leave after about two hours as long as nothing deadly happens. [/spoilers]

>>97997553
Semper Fi. I was killing Barbary pirates shoulder to shoulder with Stephen Decatur before my embrace, If you'll forgive the braging.

>>97997615
Hell yeah brother! There are no ex-marines, only different uniforms than before. Did that play a part in your embrace or just happen to coincide with it?

>>97997658
Once I survived for a year and my Sire contacted me, I was indeed informed my actions had influenced his decision.

>>97997658
So it is done, I have a childe again. I have signed the letters, called in the favours. I have watched him feed, and now. He goes apart from me, I have to admit, This is probably the most I've felt in decades. Julian's transformation was mostly unremarkable although some aspects of it appear to have resurfaced or perhaps I am saying that my own embrace was somewhat atypical to the lineage. While our clan is lknown for animalistic features Julian's eyes shine perceptably in just about all conditions. Perhaps as strong as half a candle. And his fangs are well developed but held out, It's good he's going to the mountains. It will give him some time to learn to overcome these small flaws. His ability with Fortitude does seem to take after me, which is a small resemblance.

When I awoke this evening, the first night without Julian, I found in his room a box, addressed to me. There was a wide brimed hat, a cowboy hat as you style it. I haven't worn one in decades but now, I have another.

I think I'm going to close up the house for a bit. I have become too much of a recluse I think. It's time to walk I think, get out there and do. Don't worry /schreck/. I won't leave you behind. I know you've lived a hard life, sometimes you just need stories about not-quite eldars who are too fond of their ghouls to even it out.

https://youtu.be/lPHKRzJDKK8

>>97997520
What this fellow is leaving out is his position as a former Archon for the Camarilla. That is to say: he was the Camarilla equivalent to a member of the Gestapo. An enforcer, inquisitor and spy all rolled into one.

He is also leaving out that the Camarilla exists enforce the status quo. The status quo being primarily for the benefit of its elders. If war comes knocking at your doorstep, you will be the meat shield between the hordes at the gate and those elders. That is the most likely way they’ll treat you as “a valid political unit”: just a body to throw at a problem. If you aren’t one of their valued elders, they don’t care what happens to you. A couple of years ago, Chelys had a ranch that was attacked by Lupines (that’s werewolves, just so you know). Did the Camarilla lift a finger to help him? No. You know who did help him? Stripper and her pack.

I’ll take this opportunity to point out that Chelys is NOT a member of the Sabbat or otherwise hostile to the Camarilla. This is how the “home for all vampires” operates.

If you have a chance, join up with the Anarchs. It’ll be more like joining a gang, with a Baron as the gang leader. Since they usually control a smaller territory compared to a Camarilla Prince, the Baron is more likely to be concerned for your well being on a personal level, rather than the abstract “for the good of the city.”

>>97997796
Thank you, I didn't realize I had a fanclub.

>The status quo
Yes, we rightly enforce that. When you think of all the nice things that modernity has given us? The network of computers? Television? A developed banking system? A means of regulating feeding grounds?
>You're Welcome

>Attacked Chelys
I don't know all the details, but if the local prince didn't see fit to help Chelys, that sounds like a local political grievance. You can only say
>Treated Equally
So many times before licks tune it out. The Camarilla is not a charity, And after Chelys' self admitted questionable practices, indifference is the best he could have hoped for.

>>97997796
>Anarchs are like a gang
Yes, it's a good analogy. Maybe the gang leader likes you, maybe he doesn't. it doesn't change the fact that they lack resources and inevitably fairness when push comes to shove.

>>97997735
forgive me, I'm a bit woozy from eating someone and their soul, but how am I involved in this?
>>97997796
>>97997853
I miss the bar and arena. The ghoulodiles singing their mating calls. Yeah the dallas prince thought I was a novelty, and the nacogdoches prince just wanted literal bars of gold and barrels of blood wine to not claim I was a political threat. I've had better personal interactions with sabbat members, but I understand the necessity of the camarilla and it's establishments for the survival of kindred-kind. Until we can all sing KUMBIYAH and guide our kine brethren with our centuries to millenia of wisdom and they protect us during our torpor and see the whole species to new heights of innovation, this whole thing is fucked so just try not to actively piss people off man. You'll go far!

>>97997853
>The network of computers? Television? A developed banking system?
You're not seriously going to try and convince someone that the Camarilla had a hand in developing those things, or would even care if they all vanished and humanity slid back into the Dark Ages, are you?

>Treated Equally
And you're not seriously going to say with a straight face that a system of government structured after a LITERAL FEUDAL HIERARCHY really treats everyone within it equally and fairly are you? Even the the damn Traditions are selectively enforced by the will of the fucking Prince!

For that matter, why don't you tell the kid what a Scourge is, hmmm?

>>97997553
Don't forget to collect the bounty, man. Six figures of dough and vengeance sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

>>97998892
>or would even care if they all vanished
I long for it. I have read of EMPs. Accursed fucking Sun could do us a solid, send some of its rogue energy this way. Blacken the world forever.
Think of it. No more electricity. No more superweapons. Banking system fucked, kine political system goes belly up. Kindred rule all nations for a thousand years

>>97997192
Alright. Since I can't think of any other options, I'll gather everyone together at the university tonight.

Finally talked to Zoryana, my only ally rn.
1) Whom do we fight?
She agrees w/ most of you: "Noble vs vampir" distinction is false, vampires divided across clans and sects, the lord of the house is independent, we hide from mortals and have non-vampire enemies, to exist is to fight.
2) Do us 2 stay indie if we lose the protection from the lord of the house?
Not enough power, should join a sect. Rundown:
- Camarilla: larger, you don't "join" it cause it demands all vampires to follow the traditions, but not to attend rites/meetings, compatible w/ aristocratic lifestyle, live w/ humans and stay sufficiently human
- Sabbat: live for the pack, fight everything not in the pack even other packs, mandatory rite attendance, no humanity, short life
- Anarchs: weak, too focused on continuing human politics and imposing their standards on a fundamentally unequal society, aristocrats like her are the enemy
3) Living off animal blood
Calls a maid, shows me the kiss: 1 sip, no pain, death, haemorrhagic shock. We evolved to parasitize humans for 1000s of years, pleasant for both like sex helps the survival of the species. Meanwhile the blood they feed me comes from butchered animals
4) Blood bond
I describe the good stuff, she says it's vitae stored for old vampire guests, is shocked & mortified to discover the lord made me her blood slave

She had a ton of questions for me, how I feel about her, etc. and like two of you, she concluded the blood must be hers, but the lord fed it to me, and I never saw her before my fourth night in the house - that is no coincidence.

I never suspected her and I don't think Zoryana would have ever said I'm blood bound to her, had she wanted it... Am I right? Some of you said not to trust anyone, but isn't this a valid reason to trust her?
Seeing her like this makes me sad. And mad.

>>97998892
>hand in developing these things
You think they didn't? You're telling me the secret masters of the world who rule by night haven't approved of the current state of the world. Make up your mind, are the Cammies, status quo or not?

>treated equally
As equally as is possible. There are some very powerful vampires, either by right of blood or politics. Those vampires are treated on a case by case basis, but outside of eldars (which frankly not even the princes see regularly and most of the gang will never see), Yes. Everyone in this thread, would be treated roughly the same. Not to say that a prince may not play favorites, not to say that different results may happen if you can't keep your blood under control or if you run your mouth too much. But equal. Frankly, I am amazed that people have such a problem with this. Has practiced indifference not been the status quo for centuries now? Equal, you are a vampire. You get treated according to how dangerous and powerful you are. Equal.

>Scourge
They kill those poorly conceived and illegally embraced. Yes, if you some daywalking ambination dreaming of diablerie and dealing in Pseudopotions, you will be killed. Yes, if your sire went against the wishes of the prince, he may have both the sire and the childe executed for rulebreaking. I never denied there were rules. The executioner position is known as a Scourge.

>>97998966
>kine political system goes belly up.
The current one, the current soft one. The current soft one that doesn't kill vampires and is so materialist it has a hard time even processing the claim that undead vampiric monstrosities are ruling from the shadows.

>>97999291
Don't play fucking dumb. You know damn well the status quo the Camarilla cares about has absolutely nothing to do with "protecting modernity" or any shit like that.

I think I accidentally ignited a political flame war...

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The Winnipeg "Situation" (Recap 2)

Alright so. I knew this would get bad but man this town was a strong breeze away from imploding.

> The current nominally united front of the Sabbat has fragmented completely down into three surviving Packs.
> 'The Snake Charmers' who are the most rabble-rousey of the local sect, they're essentially rogue shovelheads that survived long enough to be inducted and form their own organization. Still eating one another over who should be ductus but they are the bulk of the Sabbat muscle.
> 'The Moctozumas' on the other hand are a smaller pack of Arch-Cons who've wanted to turn Montreal into Mexico City, and have been rotting here for a decade. After getting kicked out of Cali. Their Ductus (Romero) and Priest (Tlaloc) have wanted to kill one another since they arrived.
> Then there is the 'Legion of Basalt.' In theory they're less extreme than the Moctozumas but they're less a pack, more a sub-cult.
> Literally got altars up to Cain and their Priest (a wretch named Pontius) has been trying to name himself Archbishop of Canada for years. The legion is a dangerous threat but they never had the numbers to beat the Snake Charmers.
> They'll also flay you if you say 'Code of Milan' because apparently that's secessionist and 'moderate' talk.
> Anyone else present is either getting merged into one of the above or has vacated to follow Bonhomme's Bastards, especially as the Loups make raids near Assiniboine Forest and Fort Whyte.
> Someone also burned down a chunk of houses over by Sage Creek. Don't know who, but it is making people nervous.
> Anarchs have holed up completely and the Camarilla seems like they're planning to make a move. Don't know where though, or against who.
> But the Loups, even the... New Recruits are having a field day. More arrive every day. The Wentiko are hungry.

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>>97999686

> Ultimately got the meeting with Baron Trelaine last night, at the Sikh Guru Nanak Gudwaram, over in East Kildonan.
> To say the Baron wasn't happy is an understatement, and at one point he straight up accused me of being a Loupine infiltrator.
> A Rumour that's been following me since Detroit.
> While funny he's clearly at the end of his leash and it seems his Reeves have been pushing him to act.
> Something Trelaine rejects. No deals with the Warriors of Gaia, no 'Accommodations with Indian Hordes.'
> This won't be an issue I think, if the Baron sits on his hands I think we'll be able to get his people in on the Municipality.
> Right now, we're waiting for a moment to commit to do something. A slip up. Many eyes on watch.

> Now for the personal memo, we finally woke up our 'Sorcerer' last night, with the blessings of Fear's Sire.
> When he realized what Fear and his Sire were, Sorcerer shot himself up a wall and began screaming. Dogs barked. He screamed louder.
> Good news for his lucidity, but it took a while to get him down. Gün eventually had to pry him off.
> Beyond that though the meeting with Fear's Sire was pleasant.
> It would seem they remember when last I was in Winnipeg, probably more than I do.
> Odd situation, odds are 'Alex' is younger than me, but has seemingly spent much more time on their path of the Metamorph.
> After this there were no other major incidents, and I was able to preform a long awaited Ritae successfully.
> More updates as they transpire. Winnipeg out.

>>97997572
Dragons come in many shapes and forms. Always appreciate that. I doubt Alex has anything to do with the land's unease.

Which... Doesn't leave us with many options. I might have some of the Loups nearby to check on the matter, this particular sort are more open to us. Uktes.

>>97997658
We've got a location now, so if you are still open to sending those Koldun things to our freshly wakened Eunuch you've got an address waiting in your DMs.

>>97997690
Lucky man. My sire never had the decency to find me.

>>97999090
>>97999125
Animal blood weakens faster than human blood unless you cool it fast. Living off butcher dreggs is something I only ever see nosferatu fledglings do. It's as far away from the fresh stuff as human blood is to human corpse blood.

And trust is earned over time. Generally you'd want to start somewhere else and build up things over time. You are what you reciprocate, I guess.

Also, Blood Politics are just volatile like that. Don't worry about it.

>>97999686
>After getting kicked out of Cali. Their Ductus (Romero) and Priest (Tlaloc) have wanted to kill one another since they arrived.
A bit longer. Their infighting is why we lost San Diego. Word is the beef goes back to the Conquistadores warring with the Mexíca, but I don't buy that. Their blood's too thin and Llochy's nahuatl is trash-ass. I think it's just a case of an español ex-landowner feuding with an "uppity metiszo" like it's something to give a shit about in the year of our lord 1988, let alone 2026. And said metiszo trying to scare the new licks by throwing on a Turquoise skull mask and doing some shuck and jive that's supposed to be a mix of the Ritae and supposedly mesoamerican sacrificial rituals.
Rituals to Tlaloc, who ritually; doesn't drink blood.

>>97999812
Weren’t his usually people buried with seeds in their face? I thought most of the aztec deities would accept hearts FROM THOSE CAPTURED IN GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT. Also realizing I had a perfect victim for Xipe Totec if I wanted an in to any practicing mexica. Oh well. Always next time.
>>97999808
Will do. The first text is a copy of the basic ways. You know, the greek elements right? Add spirit/heart and that’s all the ones a novice needs to know about. This won’t be easy as you’re dealing with spirits that are older than any of us. They require “spiritual purity” and a sense of stubborness/determination that you can make creation itself your servant. It’s not like thaumaturgy where you do x, believe y really hard and it happens. It’s like training the most stubborn mule you’ve come across. Persist though and you can make anything from storms to volcanic eruptions itself.
>>97999460
Eh, boy toy’s mommy’s ex lover literally ignited the East coast on fire. Yelling at each other on a subterranean flea training forum is nothing fren.
>>97998962
Well then. Will do if I’m not under blood hunt by a Prince or two along the way. Now I might be able to rebuild the farm and bar. That would be nice. Need a ghoul though.
>>97999690
If this one I’m sending the texts for, he’s gonna have a hard time. The path of metamorphosis does have spiritual effects.

>>98000317
>If this one I’m sending the texts for, he’s gonna have a hard time. The path of metamorphosis does have spiritual effects.
I think H0T wanted them for "Sorcerer," the baby Tremere she picked up. Alex and I wouldn't mind learning too, though as you say it might be too hard for us.

>>98000317
>You know, the greek elements right? Add spirit/heart and that’s all the ones a novice needs to know about
... Captain Planet?

>>97999812
Tragic. But not unexpected. If it is any consolation these two are going to lose Winnipeg as well.

Any information on Pontius by the way? He basically popped up back in 2015, as far as I can tell out of the ground, Ex Nihilo. Full Sabbat but no background.

>>98000317
>The first text is a copy of the basic ways. You know, the greek elements right?
It has been a while since I passed the mainline ways, but yes. Thanks brother.

>It’s like training the most stubborn mule you’ve come across. Persist though and you can make anything from storms to volcanic eruptions itself.
Hopefully that will snap him out of the verbal fugues he gets into.

>If this one I’m sending the texts for, he’s gonna have a hard time. The path of metamorphosis does have spiritual effects.
Not them. Though, I suspect Sorcerer is in for a hard time anyways it should be possible. With the common variant, anyways.

If I tried to explain Animism and Mahayana Metaphysics to Sorcerer in order to access my variant of the Koldun, he might go catatonic.

>>98000444
It might be possible, more so for you than your Sire.

Granted, while I'm well read the intricacies of your clans splits over the Viss and the Koldun are... Difficult to fully parse. My teacher avoided speaking on those matters, and I realize now asked me to never say the 'D' name. Didn't even understand them, at the time.

>>97985875
you are fighting the same sorta people you yourself are. city dogs. cunning mother fuckers that know how to wage assymetric war. get your assets laid out and cut everyone that aint vital. make fake people up if you gotta and keep things for business in paper in dark rooms. machine spirit punk ass pendejo will sell you out if you dont treat them right. might do it anyways.
that might be bs but i aint ignoring my own den's protocols.

>>97997553
>>97998962
>>98000317
check mate i guess. stretches just over into seven figures, but the transfer cuts and the holding fees bring it back down to six. 950k is nothing to turn your nose up at though, courtesy of the oddest coalition you get when you fuck around for so long.
wish that made me feel better. miss ye bleu.

>>98000742 What do you mean 'teacher'? How are you and >>98000317 capable of this stuff? I grew up near the iron curtain and we got told some wild shit about the evil magic that elementalists could use and it was essentially the devil.
That is literal. Old Lasombra from over in Bavaria said it was literally Satan giving Tzimsces power to do those things.
Also, that Baba Yaga rimmed the actual capital D devil which- Jasna cholera- is there any truth to that stuff? We could use some powerups, the chujek in rojana keeps fucking with us selling product and i want him and his island gone.

>>97999460
Don't worry about it. That happens all the time. The Cam want peace and stability. It WOULD be admirable if they weren't so miserably self righteous about it. And in conplete denial about Methuselas and Antediluvians.

>>97999686
Oh FUCK! I know those Moctuzuma bastards! It was the Horseman that ran them off! He was under orders to "get those annoying bastards out if my hair," from a Bishop back then, so he stopped chasing once they were out of the territory. So they went clear on to Canada, huh?

You could probably fuck with the old guys in that pack if you got a pair of coconut shells. lol.

You know if that Pontuis guy has torqued off any ordained Bishops?

>>98000742
>Any information on Pontius by the way?
Pre 2015, he's a damn ghost, couldn't even tell you his sire, pack or Clan.
Post he's making everyone else ghosts. He's damn good with a Javelin, can incite near riots in a crowd and really likes drawn out executions. Specifically, he likes to watch. Likes to take prisoners and get them to choose who goes first, he likes watching that too.
He also plays up the Roman thing, specifically the bits about the founders being raised by wolves.

>>97999291
>the current soft one
I think you are missing the forest for the trees my friend. Soft people do not make rocket ships and atom bombs and other vicious things. Technology is the great equalizer.
You know of that software which peers into faces?
They could be a decade away from clocking kindred with a single glance. Then they will not be so soft, I think, with their autonomous bombs and pitiless drones. Better to live in a world without those evils.

>>98001923
And yet, as best I know my history, the times that have given our kind the most trouble were Medieval or earlier. The first city fell in what the bronze age? Earlier? Rome fell, in what the 5th century? I understand the frustration, but yes. This is soft. Technology in many ways make them soft. It's hard to give a shit about your fellow man when you have your cakes and circusses beamed into your phone and delivered to your door. You worry about advanced scanning and drones, which is fair. But that technology won't easily go back into the box as they say. The modern system, gives us tools to prevent this (human rights, capitalist acquisition, etc). Even simple things like modern logistics is such a force multiplier for our kind, and we need it because we're badly out numbered and will be at every step.

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>>98001209
The Koldun is something you can just learn. It's difficult certainly, but not impossible. Although for the orthodox variety abusing it can have... Issues.

You can only take so much from the elements before they grow tired. Some being ancient and malevolent.

>>98001253
>You know if that Pontuis guy has torqued off any ordained Bishops?
He's taken out at least three would-be Bishops. Although, two were only strong figures out of Quebec with the Bastards. The actual would-be pretender was another Mexico transplant, 'Hayreddin the Black' who he knocked off back in 2021. Word is he wants to be Bishop, but never had the impetus. Charmers would eat his people alive, apparently.

>>98001812
>He also plays up the Roman thing, specifically the bits about the founders being raised by wolves.
Oooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh.

It would be fitting, for where we are and what we are, but I really don't want this to turn into a proverbial Althing between the creep stalking us and an actually competent urban cousin. But fuck it. Fine. Great no really that's just

FEUMAID AN ROIMHA TUITEAM

Ah, now that Son and his group have been been collected I can see to the dispensation of the Serpent's remaining property. I'm told she had quite the collection of Egyptian artifacts, perhaps I'll throw the Tremere Primogen a bone...

I have also taken Son's comments about my handle to heart, though I suspect my secretary has made me the butt of some joke I can't understand.

>>97998081
Blood...wine? I may have to extend an invitation to attend Elysium come November. I haven't had rum in forever;I have to settle for a few sips from other Marines with an acceptable amount of blood in their alcohol streams come the Birthday celebrations.

>>97999808
It always angers me when I hear of that happening. If you aren't prepared to keep an aye on your Childe for the testing year, you aren't ready to Embrace.

>>98002534
>Oooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
Awoooooopoooooo!

>>98003013
>I haven't had rum in forever
Scholar and Kakophoni gave me a big barrel of vitae-infused rum when they were clearing out their cellar. First and only shot I've had so far knocked me on my ass, you'll love it. A bit spicy with a nice coppery aftertaste.

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>>98003015
LEEDLE LEEDLE LEEDLE LEE
>>98003040
>>98003013
I'd love to hang out and drink guys. It makes this dead heart quicken a smidge.
>>98001209
every thing has a spirit dude. Some as a gestalt thing, others as individuals. Koldunism is binding these to your will via vitae and other oddities. Not dissimilar to a blood bound, but with the very land itself. Aside from vitae, my particular parcel in texas required wind charms for the sky's blessing. Spirits are weird yo.
>>98000810
That'll be more than enough to get things running again and rebuilt thankfully. The old growth timber will be a bitch to find though. I can accelerate some trees with vitae, but that's just gonna end up as Cathedral of flesh-diet version in a few decades. I miss her too. Nothing upon meditation or trying to speak in my mind. I hope she found rest at least.


Well, the skin held up decently. Don't think I'll be able to make a tapestry of it though. Edges look frayed like those old jars of specimens in collections and high school science labs. I'll experiment with it once I get back home though.Time to rebuild the bar, get some gators and crocs, bribe a princeling, and reestablish contact with dallas. First, to find a ghoul though.

>>98000444
>>98000742
>tremere learning koldunism
He must sign an oath of fealty to the greater Tzimisce clan and rebuke the Usurper and all his works before he can partake of our knowledge.
>>98000691
I brought that up to my tutor and he slapped me with some obsidian he manifested as a demonstration. It's not inaccurate though. The spirit path really just makes one more attuned to your direct land. The other's can be utilized at greater distance. Spirit makes you borderline omniscient upon your property.


unnnhhhhhh you can't reply to more than five posts or it's spam, ennnhhhh

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Big ruckus in the mansion, a young man came to visit us. I woke up early and lent a hand to the butlers and we moved some furniture around. While this family is from Ukraine, this visitor is from Russia, I may know only a handful of words but I can tell their languages apart, it's cause in Ukrainian they say dyakuyu or vdyachnyy, and Russians say spasibo or blagodaryu.

Call me biased but it looks like Virginia Hunt Country was the best place in the Land of the Free for these Old Clan folks to go and be extensive farming feudal boomers in. Call me biased, I can't think a better location myself honestly, maybe Texas has better taxation but the heat just ain't worth the effort.

Zoryana told me to hide myself with a cross between a hiss and a growl, and my body automatically rushed to the darkest corner of the house, and this happens to be where the maids change their clothes. My living self would have been ecstatic, my present dead self feels guilty instead. Weird.

But there's an even more radical change going on: the maids couldn't see me? It's like I wasn't even there.

I thought I turned invisible until the dark haired first wife of the lord found me. She ask: "Are you hunting?", and I bow and I'm like: "No, Madam, the young miss wisely ordered your humble servant to make himself scarce. I wouldn't want to offend your esteemed guest or embarrass any of you in front of him." God bless Zoryana for her patience during etiquette lessons. And then Raven-hair left. She had the perfect opportunity to drag me down to the cell downstairs, and she's not even gonna accuse me of being a pervert or avenge womankind like anyone else on this planet would? Like she left, just like that?

Bro, this guy's wives are too far gone. These women are completely mental I tell you. I think he has a type.

Do all vampires turn invisible, fade from sight or whatever this power's called?

But wait, there's more! I have bigger news...

OMG GUYS GUYS GUYS

ITS FINALLY HAPPENING
ME AND ZORYANA LEAVE THIS STUPID EVIL PLANTATION IN A COUPLE NITES
HAVENT BEEN THIS HAPPY SINCE MY BULLY WAS KICKED OUTTA MIDDLE SCHOOL
SO HAPPY ID KISS THE LORDS WIVES (FOR LEGAL REASONS THIS IS A JOKE)
LETS GOOOO

Ok the girl just showed up, said I had something in my aura, whatever that is, and told me: "Stay... Stay." stretching her hand in front of my face. Feeling relaxed now.

Basically just like as the Russian speaking guest came to our house, Zoryana is visiting his - and God willing I'm going with her.

Let's say, hypothetically speaking, of course, that some time after we leave, something "terrible" happens, and the plantation disappears, goes up in flames, becomes depopulated... in short we don't have a home to return to, and we would need a new one real quick.

To reintroduce ourselves, we're this chivalrous dork handyman-driver fledgling from an unspecified clan, at least I think I can move somewhat fast and turn relatively invisible - and Zoryana, his classically trained young Koldun regnant lady from Old Clan Tzim, a fish out of water who is very uncomfortable with the abuse the monsters infesting this mansion commit on the regular. We're in Virginia Hunt Country.

It's true that she said the Camarilla would be a better fit for her, but she also warned me that wanting to be in a sect, and being actually accepted by it, are two very different things.

So - hypothetically speaking, sure - who here wants to adopt us, or has friends willing to adopt us, into their chosen sect, faction, gang?

>>97999808
>Living off butcher dreggs is something I only ever see nosferatu fledglings do
Zoryana meant humans can give you their blood willingly, not animals. Been thinking about it.

>>97999808
>sending those Koldun things
>DMs
I think Zoryana would like an exchange of Koldun literature with you. If you could DM me too, she would love m- I mean love it, love it. Love. IT!

>>98003377
>>98003350

I HAVE NOT SHUCKED OFF THE DUPLICITOUS THREE SIDED STRUCTURES OF SELF-DEFEATING GORATRIX,
AND THEIR BUCK-TOOTHED HARLOTISH RED-LENS GLASSES WEARING TRIBU FORBEARS,
ONLY TO SMACK MY HEAD IN PROSTRATION TO THE TAIL-EATING-WYRM!

I mean that literally what the fuck am I having an oath of fealty to beyond a broad concept?

That's worthless. Less than worthless! Your clan is almost as bad as my new """"ductus's"""" clan in terms of internal cohesion! And as a legalese I could worm my way out of such an oath like repulsive processed cheese worms out of a hydraulic press. So. So let me make you a counter-offer much more substantial. I already REVILE both of the pyramids for the psychotic control freaks and neurotic degenerates they are. Always shall I be their enemy, and I promise never shall I make war upon the Dragons, no matter their breed. Just as much as I will reimburse you in kind when I have matured as a powerful BLOOD SORCERER.

Don't want trouble your clan anyways. The brick shit-house that is my current host is- Well- he treats that mutant wolf like it is a big dumb lab. But he's still sort of normal. Nice guy. Need to find a way to pay him back for this.

His Cat-Thing gives me the creeps- but so does my suzerain's. That 'lazy eye' rolls wherever it wants.

But- But! The moment I looked into the eyes of his Androgynous Forbear I knew exactly why my former 'Chantry-mates' used your lineage as a particularly cruel threat. I want none of that smoke no sir.

>>98003965
Sure, lets get you signed up with a pack. You probably don't want to join mine specifically because we...get into a lot of fights. Deadly ones. But I can you a pack you'll fit in while you learn the ropes...and I definitely want to be there when you take your first Vaulderie.

>>98002534
Okay, that's good news...or bad news. Up and comers don't count, but if he had harmed on Ordained Bishop or been put on a hitlist by one I would have been obligated to inform my Sire. But as is I can just let you guys handle those shit stains.

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I met with the Prince and his secretary. They brought along a man I didn't recognize; pudgy, balding wearing a tweed suit and bow tie that screams "I'm a serious academic. I'm so smart." The Prince says that he's a big shot for the Tremere. They had me take them to Ms. Faycott's haven. It's a lovely house that she was renting in St. Augustine - very historic looking. The pudgy man said he wasn't expecting to find much of value. I used the spare key Ms. Faycott gave me to unlock the door and go inside. I stood there staring as a wave of melancholy washed over me and the pudgy man shoulders past me, followed by the Prince and his secretary. I showed them to the back of the house, to Ms. Faycott's personal temple to Sutehk, and when the pudgy man saw all her writings and tools and relics he scoffed but I could see the greed in his eyes.

He called some of his goons - Apprentices he called them. They're ransacking the place! One of the Apprentices burned himself when I tried to pick up Ms. Faycott's crook that she used during ceremonies, but they took it anyway. They desecrated the shrine to Sutehk! Even the Prince and his secretary seems disgusted with their looting and stepped back outside.

I feel sick.

>>98006868
Ahhh you suffer indignities before the craven lapdogs of the Pyramid! An inevitability, you poor needling juice-box.

Though the age where they masqueraded in carnivals and secret societies is over, they are filled with avarice for any sort of mystic secret. Even the risk of 'working with the Sabbat' is ignored by their magisters and regents! I know this well! Even that SNIVELLING INBRED SANCHEZ was able to honey-pot such men as this rotund Tweed-Wearer several times. Just as I was forced to clean up the mess of these ambushes.

If it is any consolation, such Cainites rarely profit from actual arcane lore. They are groomed for servility, and easy bonds, and also facilitating 'yes sir please may I clean your gonads with my tongue?' Not actual scholarship.

>>98007614
I knew I was going to like you when I read your story. The amount you hate the Tremere is something my clan would commend.

>>98007614
I keep hearing the Great and Might Kevin's voice whenever Sorcerer post. And it always gets a chuckle out of me

>>98005352
Think even if he whacked a Bishop, illegally; he'd still be off limits. Nobody turned Archbishop or Cardinal aspirant? That nobody knows a damn thing about? Reeks of the Black Hand. Which means, Big Sis; that he's extremely dangerous. Tread with due care.

She can't be serious. I have to do everything again? Unpack the clothes and roll them instead of folding them to make more space, and take even the winter ones to our little trip to the Russians' place "because they're wearable assets that appreciate over time, not mere garments." But we're in May... And I can't solicit help from the "domestic workers" either.
Aw man... This is gonna be a long night.
>>98005352
>You probably don't want to join mine specifically because we...get into a lot of fights. Deadly ones. But I can you a pack you'll fit in while you learn the ropes...
Do more... sedentary packs exist? Think sleeping in the same building, I'd like to keep doing that. Or are you Sabbat always on the move, always on the run?
>I definitely want to be there when you take your first Vaulderie.
Why is that?

Dear thrall,

Less slacking, more packing.

Faithfully,
- Your Regnant Zoryana

>>98008125
Man just got called out by his bitch.

>>98008103
Just an inside joke between me n Strip.

>>98007727
There is a saying within House Goratrix. "None else hate our traitor kin as much as we." I disagree with it. mostly because the average Goratrixian apprentice schmuck just wants to pull the legs off ants and doesn't really 'get it.' They either die stupid or develop psychosis.

BUT I GET IT

MY NEW DUCTUS LETS ME READ SILLY PDF TOMES AND SEEING WHAT I'VE BEEN DENIED IS GOING TO MAKE ME ERUPT LIKE KRAKATOA ACROSS INSULINDIA

>>98007846
He's definitely got Kevin in his language him but I'm also pulling from some other places too. He's a neat compliment to everyone else in his new "pack." Cynical to H0T's optimism, assertive for Gün, and something of a grounder for Mèo-Mèo. Granted that's less 'straight man' and more: 'If you ever say Equius Zahhak again I will turn into a pretzel and suffer final death.'

>>98008103
Understand you are like to join a selection of misfits and hooligans suffering religious schizophrenia, or without other means. You fit the latter category, and therefore, I shall not judge you too harshly.

I shall even enlighten you a tad. Gift you but a SMIDGEN of my burgeoning intellect. The Vinculum is a most useful tool but it has certain side effects. Binding and sharing aspects with ALL of those who share their essence. It may also have 'side effects' of various forms, such as not wanting to strangle the imbeciles you'll be nesting with. As for Packs? They are as varied as they come and take the shape of the biggest dumbass in your blood-circle. Or else, whatever a nearby Arch-Bishop/Religious-Lunatic/Shadowy-Conspiracy-suspicously-shaped-like-Camarilla-Agents require.

I have to believe the last one is responsible for Winnipeg. For the sake of my former ego.

>>98008103
You've chosen poorly, but you're in a hard situation. Just remember that the deeper down the Sabbat rabbithole you go, the less chance you have of rejoining polite civilization.

>First Vaulderie
The reason is that you're likely bloodbonded and your will is not your own. The sabbat for all their uselessness, have the Vaulderie which can break bloodbonds (although perhaps dilute is the better word).

Postnig by phone is a pani. I'm out here with the whores and crackheads, on the streets of Arlington. Truthfully I only really took is a set of denims, my hat, and a Kabar of uncertain properties. Julian swore it was possessed of something, and I can perhaps agree with his assessment. How many men would you have to kill for such a thing to happen naturally? It bears no obvious mark but the handle is darker than most. I had chalked it up to ash being worked into the linseed oil, but perhaps, perhaps. I have to admit that feeding out among the trash is still the same risky stupid bullshit it was always, but maybe we all need to embrace our inner trooper sometimes.

>>98008875
Merde, damnable phone. It is I.

>>98007945
Not my problem, I'd never set foot wiling in leafland. But I'd have to my Sire. He takes His Templar duties so seriously he's on that Path. Or maybe it's the other way around...whatever.

>>98008103
About as sedentary as a 70's punk concert gets, but yeah, nomads like us are few and far between, and for damn good reasons.

And don't worry about that Vaulderie thing. It immunizes a Pack against blood bonds by making them all be bonded to each other, like a...well, a pack. But the Strongest bond a Vaulderie can make is nothing compared to the lightest of Blood Bonds. You'll just view that one pack mate like your BFF at worst. So you and Zoryanna will totes be bonded to each other!

>>98003965
>Fast and Invisible
Hmm, It may be that your local lord is something of an Anti-tribu but the invisibility is fairly telling. I can only think of two major clans known for it and as, presumably your face doesn't closely resemble your asshole, you are likely some variant of Malkavian.

>Imagine a Malkavian Lord sitting out in the middle of no where, a veritable local lord, ensorcelled in his castle and not a care in the world for politics, modernity or sanity.
It's sort of Romantic, I guess there are a few other options but for english speaking eurasian? I think this has to be a Malkavian bloodline. If it's not all just for a jake as they say, you should try to find something anything that would indiciate the bloodline, who sired your lord? They used to keep that sort of thing hidden in plain sight back in the day, check for a family bible, heirloom, hell even tapestries or murals?

>>98009117
Never heard of a Malkavian with Celerity (scary thought though). Plus they tied him up whenever they gave him vitae. The kid also wasn’t turned by the lord.

I’ll bite my tongue and resist the urge to say something snarky.

>>98005035
>>98007727
I honestly think his sleeping tzimisce blood may be awakening in a weird way. Very well. The tomes are sent. PREPARE TO HAVE AUTISM

>>98006868
Do I need to “meet” with this guy? If you can give me a portion of him, I just learned an interesting new ritual that would’ve been handy for the Janus issue.

>>98009579
Did you want her things? Why didn't you say so? I didn't particularly enjoy that either, but I couldn't very well have a bunch of sorcerous artifacts lying around unsupervised in my city...

>>98009274
He's not a nosferatu and the other options would be quite exotic, there's a chance he's deluded about his speed. OR perhaps the bloodline has mutated thru isolation. So unless they have a swarthy moor in their woodshed, I'm not sure who else i could be.

>>98009805
It's more the impropriety of ransacking for lack of a better term. While I was sentimental towards her, her artifacts would've likely just been keepsakes of nostalgia for me. A bright student of hers, once embraced, would've made a fantastic recipient of these.


Though if you also find this portly "scholar" annoying and want him gone, my fee is affordable.

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I can't.
Thought I was finally done packing and the girl innocently shows me a third wardrobe? I spent an hour just practicing the ancient art of "handing the lady out" and Zoryana will have to make her triumphant entry into the Russians' mansion... by stepping out of a gosh darned white VAN in all her finery, instead of the Mercedes.
>>98009841
She took my phone again and read your messages. She facepalmed, with both hands, said: "'An Assamite and a Tzimisce of the Old Clan walk into a prince's office' sounds like the incipit of a really bad joke."

Anyway, Zoryana insists that she prefers the "Cammies", and wanted to know if we're really stuck with the Sabbat for the foreseeable, or if there is anything we may ask of you, or the others in the Camarilla to "ease our entry into the tower, and save us some headaches should our nights as unaffiliated vampires of Virginia come to a sudden end."

And what's so bad about being an Assamite and what was all this talk about Moors and skin colors? I'm white as snow!
>>98008339
>Binding and sharing aspects with ALL of those who share their essence.
>>98008987
>the Strongest bond a Vaulderie can make is nothing compared to the lightest of Blood Bonds
So the way out a blood bond is a stronger longer lasting bond? Is this the catch?
>>98009579
>PREPARE TO HAVE AUTISM
Are Tzims and autism correlated? The blonde wife of the lord has an intense stare.

>>98008172
Rude.

>>98009842
Ohohoho, no. I can't conspire to assassinate the Tremere Primogen!
No, I just threw a bone to the clan so I can ignore their inceaseant prattle for a few years. "Ohhh, Prince, thr other clans persecute us! We are hated and despised! Protect us!" Meanwhile they have their property rigged with vitae powered mystical bombs strong enough to level half of the city... Bah. Just one more headache of Praxis.

No. If I really wanted him dead I would, perforce, gather evidence of sufficient crimes to call for a Blood Hunt, present said evidence to his face (and the other assembled kindred) at an Eylisium, and then rip him limb from limb myself right then and there.

I make it a point to remind my people every now and then that, despite my genteel speach, their Prince is still a Gangrel Leatherneck.

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>>98010702
>So the way out a blood bond is a stronger longer lasting bond? Is this the catch?

Good instincts, but not quite in this case. God, how do I put this? Okay.

So immagine one day you have an intrusive thought. Like you're in the locker room after a workout and you see another dude come out of the shower and out of nowhere your brain assaults you with a daydream of you gagging on his dong. Normally you shake your head and go "what in the fuck, brain?!" right? Not with a Blood Bond. And if you do manage to recognize that as an intrusive thought, your nuts get blasted by a taser for it.

With the Vaulderie on the other hand, you're willing to buy the next round at the bar for people you don't know that well.

Now, I LIKE my Packmates. But I still beaned an alarm clock off Jack's skull after that camera phone stunt. You get it?

>>98010702
No, it’s the magic. Part of learning magic is literally becoming autistic about your particular field of it. And not shutting up about it because if someone wants to know or understand a notable part, they must understand all the fundamentals that allow that to happen.
>>98010816
>tremere primogen
Buddy that just added a discount! And he is right. They are hated. Deservedly. Remember they did kill the one actual good kindred. Alright I guess you have it under control though with your expertise in melee. He is a wizard, and thus can be easily PUNCHED!

Are you fucking serious. Failure to pay property tax??? I had paid in advance! What the shit is this. I’m ag exempt and homesteaded. What the fuck?! What’s this TrueVen enterprises shit? I’ve been gone for like two months tops! Where’s a lawyer?

>>98013147
TrueVen? Jesus Fucking Christ they aren't even trying to hide it, are they? There's some VenTrue fucking with you.

>>98013820
I looked them up. Trueven Venture Capital group. Founded by Heliodoros Apollonius Montgomery.


Do you know of any ventrue with a sun theme? Bit weird for a kindred to be obsessed with it, but they are an odd bunch.

Fucking hell, everything's gone to shit ever seen the fucking wolf people came in and tried to wipe some of us. Spent days locking down every deep nook and cranny of our Clan dens. We had to scrap a lot of operations my sire and I were working on. The ghouls are dead, the guys who knew our ghouls are dead. The trailer parks and everything outside of downtown Nashville is a 'no feed' zone for the foreseeable future. This sucks because I was finally settled into my kindred routine and getting used to my feeding grounds and thralls.

>>9800686
hail student! I have excellent news!

though I have kept my silence for the most part I have relayed the tragedy that befell your mistress and my acquaintance, the lapis serpent. my Queen of the Maritime was particularly dismayed by the pillaging of her things and is willing to take you and yours into her protection. potentially even within her lineage if one of you has the aptitude and is willing to make the pilgrimage to the temple of the tres ponts.

the tales of injustice, insurrection, and even invasion I've relayed to her over these past few months have roused her from insularity. the desecration of a shrine to the dog-headed teacher being the final straw.

if any of you or yours are willing and the prince would permit the pilgrimage, you would be welcomed with open arms. but- I must also inform you the journey is dangerous and direct flights would be best. the countryside is haunted by local problems.

>>98014683
you would be amazed with some of the things you can get away with in finance when no one cares to look. if they operate near to new england I would be willing to do an audit when I have a free moment. the true warriors of the second inquisition are tax agents. and they are indiscriminate.

>>98006868
oh dear forgive me I fat fingered that message

>>98014807
this is for you, and the Mistress only requests you respond in short order

she has long reserved the right to enhance her house and numbers but must prime this to her cleopatran and voudun peers

>>98010702
>Are Tzims and autism correlated?
I'm saying they consciously select for it, but it would explain several things.

>>98006868
>>98014807
>>98014827
I'll cover flight cost. Got enough liquid funds from the settite amulets I sell. Let's get this kid to a proper tutor!
Also, thanks for the offer! They, like most other corporations are headquartered in Delaware, the most tainted state. Please look into them.
>>98014743
I can relate fren. Lots of woods out in tennessee. Be Careful! Might set up in Memphis? Bit more urbane and downtrodden, less notice if people go missing.
>>98015127
could autism be the consequence of dead revenant lines breeding with the populous? I must investigate!

>>98014807
I accept, yes! I've talked it over with the Prince and he's given the okay to depart. Aside from myself, there will be three others coming; the rest want to stay in Jax. Tell your mistress I said thank you! I'll be on the next flight over!

>>98015289
I can cover the cost of the flight, but thank you. Money isn't anything I ever had problems with

>>98010702
>>98015127
I was literally embraced because I am good at video games and sculpting. That says something about not just myself but my sire as well. I have zero human ghouls because I can't talk to people in person. We are 100% the most autistic clan, beating out even the Malkavians.
>>98015289
>could autism be the consequence of dead revenant lines breeding with the populous? I must investigate!
You're probably on to something. I think I have revenants in my mortal ancestry three generations back and I was fairly autistic before my embrace.

>>98010702
She seems to know your clan, but wasn't volunteering the information for you? I'm not convinced, I thought the Assassins were as tightly controlled as the Tremere, at least in my experiance. I know that there has been some sort of schism since, and they have shown up in greater numbers but still hardly what you would call common. If you are an Assamite, it would be practical to figure out where your sire is. I doubt, that there's an independent Fiend and an Independent Assamite just hanging out in their shared haven. But talk to your girl. Yes she has all the power, but I doubt she dislikes you, she has far too much power and used far too little of it not to be a little sweet on you. Keep talking.

>>98014683
Oh, my condolences. I would suggest you just pay the rent and try to get a perpetuity use agreement out of him. Worst than most legality wise.

>>98014743
But you survived. That's the important thing, power and structures can be rebuilt, people replaced but you survived. Hopefully you learned a lesson or two along the way.

I found the first of the unexpected fledges in Arlington. I had been told that the city was empty except for a few other retired souls but a void attracts the foolish. He managed to clock me, got behind me, and jammed his blade in my guts as best he could. Decent celerity for a new lick, I imagine he's taken out a few Neophytes like that. He actually managed to break my skin, my return slash bit air, like I said fast enough.

But not too smart. His next attacks were just as sudden but only suceeded at cutting my clothes. Finally I managed to cut his own shirt on the third run by. He tried to cow me with a stare but it didn't work. I managed to walk him down and get a solid cut in. He laughed it off, until he tried to run.

>I'm chasing him down now.
I'm guessing whoever embraced him is waiting for him to return. We're going to have a little conversation about etiquette in Cammie towns.

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>>98015347
excellent, excellent!

I shall await you at the théâtre capitol, 811 main street. just ask the staff for 'lovecraft' and they will summon me, then I can guide you the rest of the way into the temple proper. while also filling you in on the goings on here in new brunswick. between the feral anabaptist cult the makes the countryside unsafe and the intricacies of the nosferatu sect this place is very strange for most kindred from abroad.

but I promise you will not regret this decision

>>98015289
I shall make the inquiry as swiftly as I can, as I have just finished tax season for most of the willing community up here.

>>98015766
Tabarin, the kid was a shovelhead. His sire was an Assamite antitribu. You're making this too easy, man.

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>>98010950
Hmm...
>>98015766
>She seems to know your clan
Not knowledge. Zoryana calls it a process of elimination and inductive reasoning that led her to the same conclusion as >>98016585
She also thinks even my newly awakened talent for weapons and dislike of pigs, profanity and impure acts with the other sex are changes due to my turning.

She says the Assamites are a clan of assassins and supremacists that believe themselves superior to all other clans, with a long history of Diablerie, to the point they were cursed by the sourcerous Tremere.
Then we talked about who'd be the typical Assamite, she spoke of religious philosophers-warriors from the Middle East, the Antitribu are those that joined the Sabbat, that I might never meet my Sire, and that psychologically, I'm definitely not the lethal warrior they look for.

Things got worse when I wanted to know what a Tzimisce looks for in a human to embrace...
>>98011851
>learning magic is literally becoming autistic about your particular field
>>98015689
>100% the most autistic clan, beating out even the Malkavians
...because Zoryana was really offended by the insinuation that the autistic spectrum disorder had anything to do with a Tzim's choices.

"So why did the lord turn you?" She looked dejected: "Brilliance, creativity, dominance, a willingness to commit cruel things to achieve one's objective."

My stupid self went and said: "Do you enjoy hurting me?" Why am I like this?

She frenzied, tried to maul me, the Lord ran to us, put his hand on her head and told her: "You'll ruin your dress." (butler's translation)

She stops, then later she says I created an opening for her beast, and that she was "a monster before she became a vampire."

"But Zoryana, if you're a monster, where does all this remorse and sadness come from?"

Me and my Regnant leave this darn plantation in a way fouler mood than imagined, soon as I finish washing this ugly van.

Depressed or not, we meet the Russians tomorrow.

>>98010702
>So the way out (OF) a blood bond is a stronger longer lasting bond? Is this the catch?
No! The catch is your new masters insisting you take the cup as much as they want you to not kill your pack-mates! And possibly being made susceptible to the machinations of shadowy figures. One of the reasons House Goratrix members are "selective" in how they use the vinculum beyond being a shitty discount amputee rhombus.

May your dealings with the Russians go adequately.

>>98009579
AUTISM IS A RACKET! I WAS GOOD AT MATH AND MAPS AND THEY SHOCKED ME WITH A CATTLE PROD BECAUSE

>"OOOH LOOK AT THE MONGOLOID CAN DO OFF-THE-DOME CALCULUS, WE MUST CURE HIM!"

FUCK YOU DAVE SAVONI YOU RUINED MY HIGHSCHOOL YEARS WITH YOUR 'TTRPG=SOCIETAL PARASITE' DOGMA

>>98015689
I

Really would prefer that over the deal I got shoved up my ass. Fuck my ETERNAL unlife. And Cain's Taint man- I would go with something way beyond that descriptor for Malkavians. What? I don't fucking know man.

Onomatopoeia girl is currently hauled up in the bathroom and is screaming about druids.

>>98017365
>being made susceptible to the machinations of shadowy figures.
A-ha! Which figures and how shadowy are we talking about?
>May your dealings with the Russians go adequately.
Yeah 'adequately' sounds ambitious enough.

Ich werde mich un sie kümmern!

>>98017365
>Onomatopoeia girl is currently hauled up in the bathroom and is screaming about druids.
Are the druids mysterious?

>>98017436
Firstly understand that, despite my brilliance I have gotten the Shitaki treatment in this unlife. BEING KEPT IN THE DARK ALL MY LIFE AND FED SHIT

However I gleaned much.

Goratrixian propaganda would like you to believe Tremere foresaw the Vinculum and did a double reach around. This is unlikely. And stupid. More likely there are claims various powers behind the Sabbat themselves put- Well- "Themselves" and their 'demons' into the process. Raising the mental susceptibility of those who partake in the ritual excessively. The effects are most alleged in the house of Tzimsce and Lasombra, according to what I have deciphered.

However if there is truth to this, it is well hidden, restricted to weak willed individuals. With my own ghetto pack induction I felt confident enough to partake. AND NOW I ENJOY WHAT THE HOUSE OF GORATRIX DENIED ME FOR SO FUCKING LONG.

BASIC.

FUCKING.

AMICABILITY.

>>98017457
Obviously. Have you ever seen a transparent and trustworthy druid?

>>98017448
I DO NOT SPEAK GERMAN AND I DO NOT

WAIT

STOP ILLHEP

>>98017341
>I'm definitely not the lethal warrior they look for.
Yes, I understand that boy. The problem is WHO SIRED YOU THEN. Do they have a bloodbound Assamite there? Why wouldn't she know about him. Is there a swarthy man of malice and destruction that you see fortnightly? if not where is he, does she recall any travelling Bedouin? Most licks show a distaste for animal blood, and a proclivity towards violence. I'm not convinced that this is not a Grand Malkavian Jake.

>>98017448
>>98017457
>>98017583
Winnipeg? You good?

I stopped by Fr. Gerasimos' church to thank him forever and let him meet Zoryana so he could bless her in person. Saw a little squint behind his glasses when she met his gaze. They spoke in Greek for a few minutes. Seems she calmed down. "He really is risen!"
>>98017778
>The problem is WHO SIRED YOU THEN.
I don't know man, it's called stranger! Nobody in the house said they knew anyone in the gang that chased me until the lord showed up. The few faces I or the head butler remember do not match any Middle Easterner phenotype.
The only person of color in that night was black, and I will not call the Klan to solve a case of parental abandonment, or for any other reason, ok!?
It's Virginia Hunt Country, land of the boomers, guess we don't have a vampire immigration office like she says Cammies have in their metropolises.
>I'm not convinced that this is not a Grand Malkavian Jake.
There is some irony in making a nerd highschooler like me some vampire jihadist ngl.

If it's a joke or not, if I ever meet my sire or not, I will always have my family right here, it's Zoryana.

Nothing lasts forever, little thrall. I wonder if the Russian branch of the family can contribute to this investigation. - Zoryana

>>98017959
That's the Blood Bond speaking.

>>98018138
You would do well to remember that the Blond Bond you hold now and how you treat the bonded will be held against you in the future. You might also remember that no one gives a shit about your noble status these days outside of the halls of your little holdout. Might want to start calling EK by his name.

>>98017791
I AM SO GOOD WHO TAUGHT HER HOW TO GUILLOTINE LEG DROP

>>98018535
I am caring for the well-being of the unfortunate fledgling at the best of my ability, within many limitations: his most peculiar circumstances, this isolated, rustic and Autarkic environment, my personal moral failings, the machinations of the lurking Beast, and the inescapable tragic fate that binds together and awaits most if not all vampires who cling to the Via Humanitas.
Were I to call Errand Knight only by his chosen nickname, he would act like this lovingkindness he senses between us is completely normal, and not the outcome of my sire's conspiracy to take his freedom. There is but one difference between how you and I are constantly reminding him that he happens to be the victim of a blood bond I did not wish for, and that is not my choice of words, but the fact that he is more likely to heed me.
I humbly request that you spare me the accusation of endorsing my sire's delusions of social and genetic superiority, and direct it towards your nearest Ventrue. - Zoryana

>>98018535
Bro there is a policeman inside your head.

>>98019013
Uh HUH. Well, Whatever. Once you Vaulderie, the cobwebs will clear right up.

I've got a Pack for you guys to join. Your Ductess is a Nos chick named Pinnup. A high functioning Malk named 4-Eye, and a Toreador called Emo Boy. Despite Coan stereotypes, Emo Boy looks like he was addicted to Heroin and has a stutter. So your new pack needs someone who can, you know, hold a normal conversation. Mostly they do scouting and Spy stuff. No Priest yet, but I'll be there to oversee your first rites and give you the basics. Plus you can always ask here if something comes up later.

>>98019177
I for one thank you for your offer. That's not a pledge. It may become one if, by the time we're done with the Russian Old Clanners, the Cammies or others don't come up with a better business opportunity...

>>98014743
wanna know what the worst part if fledgling? you aint even the secondary objective. if the spy is right of course.

bog standard loupine shit. someone in your network caked themselves in shit. attracted the flies.

>>98016430
you know as loopy as some folks get i never got the cleopatrans. you can wear all the makeup and jewels you want, why you gotta be weird about it?

>>98010816
if he is who i think he is, i have it on decent authority his 'siblings' all want him out of the way
now being blunt thats mostly via 'forceful relocation by austrian handlers' but at least one has a crate full of 'fossils' (dynamite)
over something about what he did back in the bone wars.
like, the archeological ones.

>>98018650
Probably Hitch, or Strip.

What the fuck is going on in my house? Who is doing a leg drop and why?

>>98020029
Everything is good! Just- eh- scheiße- bottom stare at bottom of starcase has a face imprint.
Ah, micc also kind of crumbled. Not as bad as der kastratt hexenmeister. Sorser. He's eh- He's been facedown in the couch. Gwylgi is licking his tears. Mum- Meo ist kinda- crashed.

>>98002534
Bitte kom bawd zurück. Mum geht es nicht gutt.

>>98020086
>You know what? Let's actually roll and see how a restraining action goes, I want to see how the new guy does with a physical encounter.
>LOCAL SORCERER BURNS THROUGH HALF HIS FUCKING WILLPOWER FOR A STALEMATE
>AS GOD AS MY WITNESS HE IS BROKEN IN HALF

>>98020086
What crumbled? Is there anything I can do to help either of them?

>>98020161
Eh just micc outer skales. Didn't do anything I jus need a broom to get ter dust- Rest of the dust, I scrapped up what I could wit my hands udn the bigger scales. And- ich- I don't really kno or think so?

Sorsers just letting Gwylgi do it and I think he lied about being dog person?
You want to try prodding Meo jus be careful. Episode passed- but iter wasn't happy at all.

>>98019013
>Words
I'm sure that impresses your master but frankly you have to learn that no one cares in the greater world. I humbly request you get the idea that your not already in the muck out of your head. You are going to be living, breathing, rolling in it, washing in the much for the foreseeable future. But don't worry, I know you are some backwater autarkis who hasn't realized she will be a small fish in a very big water soon. So yes, little sister. Keep it on the level, you will be judged.

>>98019073
You're blood bonded. Literally every word can be disregarded from you. But just remember, we want you to be treated well both you and your lady friend. This is just a friendly reminder. If you need transport I can arrange a less then comfortable flight but honestly I'm not sure you'd be better off in Amierca or Eastern Europe, and I don't have an easy solution to the Blood Bond. Looks like you get to be Stripper's guest for a while.

>>98020372
and it is I, you're faithful fool once again. I have no idea why this phone is different from the tablet I had before but here we are.

As for my little stroll, I found my assaulter's sire, Toreador embraced in the heat of the moment and then once the street drugs wore off, dumped along the side of the road. The Sire, if you can call her that, then embraced her boyfriend so they could be together forever.

So now they shank poors for kicks and drug money in and around Cooper. I'm surprised, they haven't caught more attention considering but I guess the boy got excited when he saw a real vampire. The Sire tried the same tricks basically as the fledgling, but seeing as I was prepared I got her on the first go. The first cut didn't so much, but bleed and that was all that it really needed to do. She came at me, half wild and she managed to snap the kitchen knife over my hide but did no damage. I managed to restrain her without cutting into her too much. They knew enough that they weren't getting out of this one.

Still, I took a little mercy on them. I sent the fledge to get me rebar and charcoal. It took him a while, but you want to know a fun trick from the outback. While most vampiric scars heal each night, brands done onto areas soaked in someone else's vitae has fair lasting power. Sort of a waste of blood but watching the two of them wake up to the lingering feeling of a fresh brand has sort of made my night. I branded the fledge along the back because I'm acutely aware of my need for a dogsbody. I branded the female across the left side of the face. It was only rebar, so it looks a bit crude but you can make out the word I wanted.
>SIN
Perhaps I'm something of a performance artist afterall. I haven't told them that the marks will fade in time yes. I'm waiting to see if there's more to them, but I guess there could be worst things then being the upright and virtuous paragon of law and order our masquerade needs in these trying times.

>>98020153
>Bah Gawd, He's Dead, He Killed him
Post Clan Entrances.

https://youtu.be/ALFMYWFRjQs

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If any of you damaged Nïa's property I'm dribbling you like a basketball.

Just keep it together for a few more hours and I'll be home.

>>98020186
Wait your face broke? Are you okay? Do you need blood? Wait, do gargoyles heal? There's deer blood in the kitchen fridge if so.
Sorcerer is okay from I gather?
I'm not prodding an episodic Malkavian with a twenty foot pole, I'll let her ride it out as long as she's not going to hurt herself.
Oh and don't worry about the step, a piece of wood can be easily replaced.
>>98020539
No no it's fine. No need to dribble anyone.

>>98020186
>>98018650
>>98020488
IT’S SORCEROR OUT OF NOWHERE WITH THE STEEL CHAIR. AND A STONE COLD STUNNER FROM MEO! BYGAWD HE’S DEAD GÜN, HE’S DEAD!
>>98015766
Wait do you know this guy? Who is he? He’s just a ventrue, I know they’re tough and can dominate, but I have work arounds for those. Also, I believe blood wine and typhon’s brew are palatable by even them.
>>98016430
>anabaptists
I thought we crusaded them all out in the medieval and renaissance? Or is that the Cathars I’m thinking of.
>>98017365
Did they do electroshock therapy? That’s fucking harsh dude.
>>98016430
thanks I greatly appreciate it! I don’t know why most kindred aren’t more forthcoming about taxes. Either you’re smart/old enough to have ways around it or you run enough businesses where it needs to be done or else your assests are being taken. Or you’re just broke and they don’t care about you.

>>98021017
I know of the man, I've meet him briefly during business. He's worst then a Ventrue, he's a lawyer. All I know is my master and my master's master would routinely (every decade or so) give him a lump sum payment to fuck off . I've heard of a few who have bested him, but none of our kind, he may be weak to plucky human legal heroes.

I've also heard tell that he's on retainer for the Fey, which should give you an idea of his relative skill level.

The Russians have gone native: spoke only English, dress almost contemporary, lived here for decades.
Panas = patriarch of this house, sire of Avdotya, Oleg (guest back home), and Bogdan (guy I called lord so far, sire of Zoryana). They're all in their early 40s.
Avdotya couldn't believe how fast I picked up manners: hand out the lady off the vehicle, say "Servus", bow deeper in front of the women... Panas' handshake and pat on the back felt like a power hammer. Women greet each other by kissing the cheeks: right, left, right.
I found out why the Tzims are so hospitable: guests are basically hostages, if you exchange 2 hostages neither of their families thinks of fighting. "...unless some tomfoolery is about.", says Avdotya.

We had a surreal convo. Bogdan was already antiquated and a degenerate before his embrace, claimed to believe in courtly love of virtuous women then assembled a harem of brainless villainesses, Oleg was no mere guest but an invader seizing Bogan's whole estate... Seems Zoryana knew of the plot.

Panas told us dispassionately: "We're excising that tumor. As for you, Zoryana, you will be spared, but since you have the opposite problem, being too human to be part of the Old Clan, when we say goodbye, you will be written off the records and live on as an Antitribu."

This hit us like a truck.

"We have a few more gifts for you. Tomorrow night you will meet your thrall's sire, or the closest thing to one, he's in our custody. Happy birthday, grandchilde."

We drank off Avdotya's wrists.
>>98020372
>Looks like you get to be Stripper's guest for a while.
You valiantly defend the Camarilla, now you advocate for the Sabbat... You a double agent? Kidding.
Comfy or not, where in the US would you fly us?

Girl's ugly crying, Avdotya's holding her and singing her some Slavic lullaby. I feel so powerless and worthless...

>>98021017
I was never much of a historian but no I believe the anabaptist movement came about long after the cathars, if they even existed. the current menace is recent, as far as I can tell someone embraced a number of cannon fodder from local mennonites over the 60s and they got out of hand. they essentially wiped out the local sabbat and made the camarilla depart.

you would think that aged vampires would learn those lessons, but no. fortunately for my peers here I've wrestled the CRA for years and I've gotten very good at it. the Queen even allows most to operate within the range of her charitable ventures, in exchange for donations, of course.

now this "trueven" organization, on the other hand? sloppy sloppy sloppy! I've never understood why they let venture capital and investment funds ingore basic finance etiquette until someone wants to put the screws to them. the audit report should be sent to the IRS by next friday.

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>>98021115
>>98022557
Seems our fighting this injustice has been noted. Received an envelope with this image on it. Says that they merely had thought I died and now wish for a simple controlling stake of 51% in the bar. Image looks familiar but there were a lot of sacred bulls in mythology. Any ideas?

>>98023010
Mithras. - Zoryana

>>98021609
If you can get to an international airport (and tell me far enough ahead of time) I can and will arrange passage. You said Western Ukraine? I can make Belgorod but the next closest option would be in the south, Simferopol. Don't worry. It's only a soviet boarder crossing or a warzone. What could possibly go wrong. Hell if you can get to Odessa, I can figure something out even if it's not air but that's a long ways for you, I would guess.

As for where in America? There's a few places I tend to recommend to fledgelings, Milwaukee comes to mind. Good town, safe for human and kidnred alike as long as you can follow the rules. You're spoiled for choice but frankly a lot of is too volatile for my taste (thus me not recommending LA or NY to you). I suppose Atlanta mostly seems settled, and hungry for new blood but just don't ask about what happened to the old guard there. I can get you set up in Brazil if you really are interested, but it's mixed down there. Probably too wild for you guys.

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The Winnipeg "Situation" (Recap 3)

If you ever get a coterie... I don't know. Ensure you set up a battle pit or something. Or a ball pit. Anyways, back to ongoing events.

> It is with great displeasure that I inform you the Anarchs of Winnipeg have split
> To my understanding, Trelaine's peers became increasingly frustrated with sitting out as the Loups grew more brazen
> At least broadly, some were terrified and some wanted to fight this, while others seemed more... Agreeable
> This divide resulted in someone SWATing their den and they've formally split up
> I can account for seven people, one of whom seems to have fled Winnipeg via car, Nos probably, off for Saskatchewan
> Two, a Cait and a Samdedi, joined with the Sabbat, specifically the Charmers who remain the largest group in town
> I myself got two recruits out of this. Both Gangs, one of whom is actually an acquaintance who thought I died in Marquette
> Baron Trelaine survives with at least one partner, and rumour has it he's in with the Camarilla now

> Now that isn't ideal but it takes one issue out of the way. Unfortunately we have another.
> In the South-West corner of Winnipeg there's the Assiniboine Forest and it seems our stalker has moved in.
> Which would be fine if they hadn't caused us five masquerade violations with as many bodies
> With said bodies found hanging from trees
> Only one sighting of this freak, apparently naked of all but “blue paint.” Which. REALLY GREAT. No. Wonderful. Nice. Cool.

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>>98023698

> Additionally it seems like the Sabbat Civil War in this town has opened up in full with the “Moctozumas attacking the Legion"
> I'm 90% certain this was a Camarilla False-Flag, but Pontius, Romero, and Tlaloc don't seem to care
> Pretty sure Pontius is in the loop and wants to finally consolidate his position, while Romero is dumb and Tlaloc is bloodthirsty and insulted
> It would seem the Camarilla and the Snake Charmers are happy to watch this play out

> Now for some good news we've finally got more friends of mine arriving in the area
> I'm pretty sure Victoria and William are in town and Horns arrived with some of the last people due
> Seems like the Loups can feel something about the Assiniboine Stalker but they seem divided on what it actually is
> And going by the Cat's meltdown the other day, I have my own ideas
> More as this goes further to shit and I'm sure Acras just finds a way to ruin my fucking night

>>98020660
Gün heals fine, just slowly. The ancient Tremere made his 'phenotype' purposefully flimsy. Fortunately it was just surface breakage.

Physically our Sorcerer is also fine. Mentally he was snapped into itty bitty pieces then blown up, as he says.

God. We haven't had something hit the Cat this bad since So-Cal. Doesn't paint a great picture. That was the kind of yikes shit we just ran from.

>>98021609
Bad situation that.

>>98023010
A half dozen, but boy does that scream 'holding onto mystery cult imagery as a replacement for personality.'

It makes the most sense. I doubt anybody claiming to be Mithras or the alleged actual one would be so petty to have control over a Blood's bar.

>>98023100
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GO TO MILWAUKEE THAT AREA IS STILL LOUP-BLOOD BATTLEGROUND ZERO AND THE TYRANT PRINCE IS A FUCKING INSUFFERABLE SON OF A BITCH

>>98023698
>Seven fled to Saskatchewan
That's going to be an issue. I don't have an official census but I'm willing to wager that's going to double the population of licks there.

>Naked, All Blue, Hangs bodies in trees
Are they headless? Sounds like you got a bad infestation of Druids.

>>98023718
I never took you for someone who had trouble following the rules? Decker does the clan proud up there.

>>98023100
The latest revision of our plan:
- 2 more nights with the Russians, as per tradition.
- on the 3rd we go to Richmond's Prince, as per Tradition, then its airport and leave Boomerland for good.
We just need to figure out the destination (US, not Europe) and pray the Russians don't have any more nasty surprises for us.
Then again they just might...
>>98023718
>Bad situation that.
Looks like we're both oprhans and clanless, basically, but at least the Russian Tzims are still doing the hospitality, affection and "family values" thing with Zoryana. For now.
>ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GO TO MILWAUKEE THAT AREA IS STILL LOUP-BLOOD BATTLEGROUND ZERO AND THE TYRANT PRINCE IS A FUCKING INSUFFERABLE SON OF A BITCH
Whoa. Do you have any recs for a Cammy-controlled US city for a fledgling who just learned to use a rifle and a Koldun girl then?

>>98023698
>>98023718
What are the current guesses on what your stalker is? I read "blue paint" and it makes me think of woad. Some kind of Celtic, Gaelic or Welsh spook? Or a druid like >>98024079 suggests?

>>98024123
>Whoa. Do you have any recs for a Cammy-controlled US city for a fledgling who just learned to use a rifle and a Koldun girl then?
If you're not opposed to Canada there's always Winnipeg, the more the merrier here.

>>98024079
Just one of a group of seven, Saski is quiet but she isn't that quiet.

>Are they headless? Sounds like you got a bad infestation of Druids.
The eyes were removed along with the 'other organs' for men.

>I never took you for someone who had trouble following the rules? Decker does the clan proud up there.
I'm fine following local rules. The problem is Decker is a control freak who prioritizes control over everything. Even long-term control. I didn't even make my den in Milwaukee and he eventually threatened me out of state for 'toeing the line.' I didn't even care about that when it happened, I've been pushed out before. Seeing people flee up to Marquette who were loyal to him he kicked was what made me bitter.

>>98024123
Oh that's a whole rabbit hole. I basically did a whole tour if you look through my posting history here, if you want the specifics. But I'm seasoned and your fresh and that really alters the relation. Makes it hard to make a full recommendation. New Orleans maybe? I have friends down there I can recommend. Same with Vegas, even if my friends are much... Odder. Ravnos.

>>98024368
The creep is absolutely silent. I don't know anything other than I think I'm related. But not enough to say they're off the clan.

And druids- I don't even know. People throw the word around but in actual scholarship I wasn't able to find much beyond the usual paranoia over country Gangrel, and a smattering of new age dorks. And my one source of information I hadn't fully delved into is currently fighting a giant electric spider. According to Nöganyáʼgöh, anyways.

Okay, I have finally figured out how to name myself on this forum.

I thought that after a few centuries I would have a decent grasp on the supernatural creatures we share the nights with.

I was wrong.

The good news is the Tremere chantry is gone. The bad news is several of the Tremere survived. The worse news is that according to them...it was one guy. A figure in a trench coat and fedora, scarf and sunglasses. He just...took apart their wards. None of the survivors got a good look at him or what, exactly, he could do as he apparently started glowing like the sun and every neonate I'm now sheltering rotshreked and ran screaming from him.

>>98025912
...how many eyes did he have?

>>98026018
As far as I know just the two.

I have engaged in some initial reconnaissance, and I am completely unable to parse the auras I saw. The area was shimerimg with reds and golds, very very vibrant, and the air felt...thin. Like a window covered in spiderweb cracks and flexing but not yet broken. I'll admi my powers of Auspex are not terribly powerful, but still, I've never seen anything even remotely like this.

Tabarin was right, a Malk's part of this.
This guy slew a Ventrue lady selling rare exotic vitae to her clan elders out of Washington. This collection is preserved with rituals after the vampires' death. He had no better use for it than pranking people he "embraced" like me, mocking the Sabbat rites with a stolen Book of Nod, flaunting the Masquerade, messing with the local Autarkis. He gotta be in all wanted lists in this state.
Panas tasted my blood and cross-checked a notebook, my sire was a 12th generation Schismatic/Ashirra Uyghur lady named Kewser Ilham. Then he asks if I want to "meet my maker." Zoryana warns me about the Malkavians, but lets me choose. We go to the dungeon below, I take the stake off the guy's chest, he sneers: "See? I told you you wouldn't-"

"Die." I put the stake back inside the Malk and finish the sentence for him. Then as I'm about to frenzy, Zoryana does the Jedi mind trick to make me "stay."

Russians say this moron is a birthday gift for Zoryana and our ticket to the Ivory Tower. We take him to Richmond's Prince the night after tomorrow.
>>98024079
>>98024368
>>98024569
Girl wants to go to New Orleans.

>>98026351
Finally the search is over.
>EK actually found a Funny Malkavian
I'm sorry it wasn't quite as glorious as you had hoped. The only thing I'll tut about, is the phrase
>Moron
As a person who worked his way up thru the ranks with the low clans, Malkavians are many things. Tiring, Vexing, occassionally Dumb or Stupid, but they are never moronic. They do not suffer from a lack of ability or intellect. Thinking that clan is ignorant or harmless will bite you in the ass in spectacular ways.

Now it's not exactly first class flying but my man is prepared to extract you from Whereever it is in bumfuck eastern eurasia that you are. That said, to prepare new digs, New Orleans will take a while, Errand choose a city for a short term stay out of the ones we talked about, even New York if you like. I want to make sure that your girl, is shown a proper home, suitable to her needs and upbringing. I have no problem providing it of course, just ask for a few weeks to get everything properly ready. You can tour Net York, Chicago, Boston for a few weeks while I get things worked up, or if one of the smaller cities interested you? New Haven, Hartford, St. Louis? Even in these smaller towns, there's lots to do for a month.

If you can post here you can email my man
>Qp2135345@Thedollhouse.com
And he'll work out the details. Meet you a ways outside of the airport, get you in the airport and then in a plane with no issues and then unpacked on the other safely. While QP is a bit eccentric (he's one of those malkavians) his personal derangement leans towards OCD. It makes him an excellent shipper. Blond Blue-Eyed, Fair Skinned, Round Faced. You can't miss him. Just remember, he's very sweet natured, make sure your girl doesn't get uppity with him. He's doing me a favour taking you two on, and on such short notice. We'll get you landed, probably in the North East and then once accommodations are finalized we will get you introduced or at least a letter of introduction.

Another night, another sip of Avdotya's blood, this help we're receiving isn't free...
>>98026351
>flaunting
*flouting
Typoes and autocorrect.

>>98026894
>Malkavians are many things. Tiring, Vexing, occassionally Dumb or Stupid, but they are never moronic. They do not suffer from a lack of ability or intellect. Thinking that clan is ignorant or harmless will bite you in the ass in spectacular ways
I don't think the whole clan is like that, I just needed to vent after dying because of a practical joke, sorry. Were you embraced as a joke?
>Whereever it is in bumfuck eastern eurasia that you are.
Uhm.. Eurasia? I drove a van to get here, I never set foot outside the Land of the Free... We will be in Richmond, Virginia, US of A, the night after tomorrow. Wasn't a direct flight from there to New Orleans like 3 hours? Fewer?
I already mailed your man just to make sure he's in the right continent...
BTW Zoryana is looking at my phone and she got impatient and is acting a bit... "twitchy".
Oh right, since it's her birthday, if money is a problem and/or a solution, maybe the Russians could help us with some of the expenses if it means we can get our base of operations in New Orleans running faster?
If we absolutely must stop in another city, you mentioned Atlanta, and it's in the middle of the two, I hope it's fine.

>>98027045
If I were you, Kid, I'd be careful about taking help from a vamp payinh that little attention to what you're saying.

>>98026894
>Thedollhouse

oh yeah. Tabby here is planning to diab you, EK, and pimp out your woman.